sk-discussion

[tough ivy]

Hi new but have been waiting for Silksong for a while, I’m zip!, I'm Aarnikka!

[trim estuary]

Hm.

[shell bough]

welcome new silkcopers

[wary swallow]

you've been outdone

[normal token]

This is no longer cope

[fiery burrow]

Hi 1 blocked message

[normal token]

It is hope

[wary swallow]

technically I'm not new to the cope

just to the server

[paper tinsel]

Cope days are over

[shell bough]

well… yeah

[shell bough]

true

[wary swallow]

it's so weird getting... news

[fiery burrow]

I'm coping that we don't have equippable spells

[stoic peak]

hey vergil your coping days are over

[fiery burrow]

I might have to intervene otherwise

[ripe cliff]

I'm chilling in the garden with some bumblebees, there's a couple merlins flying about too

Got some lemonade

[stoic peak]

nice

[wary swallow]

idk if this channel is more active usually but I thought it would be flooded today because of the news lol

[fiery burrow]

peak

[carmine island]

man i love bumble bees they have such a silly name

[wary swallow]

I heard it gets crazy during game events

[ripe cliff]

Its much worse when people ANTICIPATE the news rather than it coming to them first

[fiery burrow]

This channel when there's Silksong news vs this channel when food is brought up

[carmine island]

it does

[wary swallow]

that actually makes sense

[ripe cliff]

Yes

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-fortnite-hopimal-slashtbh-zeus-gif-3728148237913689351

[carmine island]

one of the admins put a 6 hour slowmode on once

[trim estuary]

It happened multiple times

[wary swallow]

[carmine island]

probabky yeah

[serene chasm]

That was fun

[carmine island]

speaking of

[tough ivy]

well lookie here

[wary swallow]

I wish I was here for april 2nd trailer lmao

chat must have gone crazy

[tough ivy]

tbh "trailer"

idk if it counts cause its so short

[trim estuary]

It was more relaxed than the 2022 trailer I think

[wary swallow]

technically it still is

[trim estuary]

Idk I was fast asleep

[carmine island]

yeah it wasnt a trailer just a few seconds of footage

[normal token]

Teaser

[trim estuary]

More information leading up to release imo

[carmine island]

teaser is probbaly a better term

[wary swallow]

really I thought people would go nuts because of the 2025 reveal

[trim estuary]

It was suuper active for the week after but the initial spike wasn’t as big

[tough ivy]

everyone freaked out about the 2022 trailer and then like a few moments pass and the very real release window is also said on twitter and everyone freaks out again

[ember violet]

Silksong tomorrow

[trim estuary]

and then the Xbox screenshots and then the PlayStation screenshots

[wary swallow]

the day will come when we can say silksong tomorrow and it will be true... it'll be beautiful...

[ember violet]

Which is why we should keep going

[stoic peak]

dreams come true…

[south bison]

you know how something gets way harder to wait for when its super close?

[ember violet]

We will either get silksong tomorrow or not so its a 50/50 chance

[stoic peak]

fr

[carmine island]

dreams end come true...

[normal token]

Dream no more

[wary swallow]

I can't argue with that logic...

yay my new pfp worked

[carmine island]

what happened to the guy who was doing the percent change of silksong?

[wary swallow]

on twitter?

[carmine island]

no clue

[wary swallow]

there's a guy doing it on twitter

[carmine island]

oh cool

[stoic peak]

the games gonna be so good I cant wait

[wary swallow]

every day is like 0.3 or something

[stoic peak]

I kinda hate getting news because I cant sleep cuz of excitement

[wary swallow]

I wonder how mch bigger than hollow knight it'll be

[south bison]

really bad laptop silksong or switch 2 silksong which do i pick

[stoic peak]

bigger doesnt mean better but it will definitely be bigger and better

[carmine island]

tc said something on this i cant remember the exact thing tho

[wary swallow]

they said they made 100 benches, hollow knight has 50ish benches so people assumed...

[leaden basin]

They said around 2x the enemies and benches. Nothing about map size, but it will probably be bigger

[stoic peak]

I just need new hollow knight content anything would do but no they had to cook a whole ass game

[carmine island]

that couldve been hyperbole

[wary swallow]

but also that was years ago and it probably scope creeped

[serene chasm]

🫸                                            🫷
this much bigger

[wary swallow]

thanks, that clears it up

[ember violet]

Well the map bas to be bigger because Hornet is bigger than the knight

But it will most likely be even bigger if you know what I mean

[wary swallow]

not necesarily bigger just wider and with more open space

[ember violet]

But there is now way we are getting 100 benches

[stoic peak]

rooms will be bigger basically

[wary swallow]

maybe benches are more common

though I do like how hollow knight doesn't have many benches

[ember violet]

I think there will be more sprites like the benches will be more unique and stuff but I dont think they would be that more common

[wary swallow]

I wonder if there'll be an item like the dream gate

[stoic peak]

it would be weird if it was common

[wary swallow]

the dream gate was so helpful late game

[carmine island]

probably

late game tho

[wary swallow]

definitely

[stoic peak]

I never really used the dream gate

I spent a lot of time in godhome so

[wary swallow]

benches didn't seem to be more common in the 2019 demo so wither 100 benches was hyperbole or this map is MASSIVE

[ember violet]

Its a must have for the flower quest if you hit the spikes

[stoic peak]

massive

[wary swallow]

I used dreamgate for the flower quest and getting back to godhome

[wary swallow]

LOOOW TAPER FADE

[stoic peak]

makes sense

[wary swallow]

also it was useful for farming enemies for the hunter's journal

[stoic peak]

idk I didnt use it for the quest either

[ember violet]

Looking at the trailer and screenshots most of the benches look different from each other

Which is probably what the meant by "we made like a 100 different benches"

[wary swallow]

yeah but hollow knight has 50ish benches TOTAL, not unique, total.

[fiery burrow]

Its hyperbole

[wary swallow]

so 100 benches, different or not is a lot more

[wary swallow]

most likely

[ember violet]

Im just saying there will be more sprites

[wary swallow]

that would be sick

[stoic peak]

personally I dont think the game needs a bigger map in general hk map was quite large imo

[wary swallow]

the map will definitely be BIGGER but I don't think it should be biger by much

[carmine island]

the hornet and lace marriage ending will be the longest ending to complete because of the 19 hour wedding ceremony

[stoic peak]

I mean bigger map doesnt really mean anything to me thats what Im saying

[ember violet]

Im interested in the map mechanic because from what we know we wont get the map without meeting that one npc (forgot her name) in I think deep docks

[brittle garnet]

the map will be waaaaaaay bigger in terms of raw size just becuse hornet needs bigger rooms

[stoic peak]

that is infact true

[brittle garnet]

but in terms of content size i think it will also be bigger

[wary swallow]

maybe just bigger/wider rooms

[brittle garnet]

there seems to be quite a bit of more content types and density so they need places to put all that

[ember violet]

So we'll get thought the moss grotto bone forest and part of deep docks without a map

[brittle garnet]

who knows

[wary swallow]

moss grotto is pretty straightforward

from the 2019 demo at least

[brittle garnet]

it seems like we will go through parts of moss grotto and boneforest before we meet shakra

[stoic peak]

Im curious about the dialogues hornet can talk unlike tk and it feels so weird that our playable character can talk and stuff

[wary swallow]

why do you think boneforest will be earlygame

[brittle garnet]

because it's after moss grotto

[wary swallow]

yeah I wonder if there'll be dialogue options

[brittle garnet]

also EDGE magazine literally said so

[wary swallow]

oh I didn't know that lol

[stoic peak]

dialogue options? I dont think so

[ember violet]

Did we see much of bone forest

[brittle garnet]

we saw a bit

but not really much

[wary swallow]

kinda random but when does the new knight thing go away

[brittle garnet]

not enough to really gauge how big it is

[ember violet]

Its the lava area right? There is lava in both bone forest and deep docks

[brittle garnet]

it's the lava area in the rocky section

when you're in a metal structure with lava that's deep docks

[wary swallow]

I wonder if it'll feel weird to go from moss grotto do all that lava

[brittle garnet]

aside from lava boneforest also has a lot of bones, and places without lava

[wary swallow]

it's a big color change

[brittle garnet]

maybe the lava is more concentrated in the area closer to deep docks and there is a larger section of boneforest that's without lava

[stoic peak]

I have high expectations from the game

[ember violet]

Wait is marrow after the lace fight?

[brittle garnet]

after lace fight is the other mossy area, the darker one called 'far fields' to our knowledge

[ember violet]

Huh

[brittle garnet]

that's where all the ants are

[wary swallow]

I hope it's good enough to get nominated for game of the year

[ember violet]

I see

[wary swallow]

it certainly has the hype

but GTA 6 will win

[stoic peak]

idk it looks rly good too

[quasi salmon]

it better be

[wary swallow]

istg if the game launches and it's like 7/10 imma crash out

like average

[ember violet]

What about that clover area it looks like it could be in both moss grotto and far fields

[quasi salmon]

imma crash out if its not a perfect 10/10

[stoic peak]

man I really dont see the appeal to the gta games I like gta sa and stuff but idk gta 5 is boring imo

[umbral ether]

gta is a sandbox kinda game right

[south bison]

they are gonna get that one cuphead guy to play it and its gonna get a 3/10

[stoic peak]

I think it will be the game we deserve

[wary swallow]

it will be trust

[brittle garnet]

it's connected to moss grotto

[wary swallow]

"I can't seem to figure out how to swing my nail!"

[rapid abyss]

Yall im stupid

[carmine island]

its ok ill forgive you

[rapid abyss]

I went down 50 POINTS between sats 😦

[wary swallow]

when will we get to play it tho? cuz bone forest seems to be the second area

[quasi salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-neutron-cope-jimmy-neutron-cope-cope-lol-cope-and-seethe-gif-25698067

[brittle garnet]

[wary swallow]

maybe it's a queens garden situation where we get to it way later on

[brittle garnet]

moss grotto is bigger than the bit in the demo

[wary swallow]

I've coped from day one

[stoic peak]

man fuck that j enjoy your life

[brittle garnet]

there could be a lot of ways they could gate content

[quasi salmon]

yeah there was blocked off parts in the demo

[brittle garnet]

i mean the demo also doesn't end at the END of moss grotto

[ember violet]

Deep docks looks like it could be big

The first area being big just makes sense

[polar stag]

All the new sprites look so good. I love the attention to detail on the cloak like it's a physically reactive thing

[rapid abyss]

Girl that IS my life

[brittle garnet]

i think it might be a case of you can get through one part of moss grotto that leads into bonebottom and boneforest and then later you get to explore more of it

[quasi salmon]

i think mossy grotto will be the size of forgotten crossroads or bigger

[wary swallow]

when you say first area do you mean moss grotto or the first major area, because moss grotto seems a lot like king's pass based on the demp

[brittle garnet]

like it seems we don't start with a dash so the dash could be an early upgrade that unlocks more of it

[brittle garnet]

no it's definitely not like king's pass

[stoic peak]

Im just sayin dont beat yourself up about it

[wary swallow]

in the demo it was

[brittle garnet]

we see other parts of moss grotto in trailers, it's way bigger than in the demo

[ember violet]

The crossroads are big because they are in the middle

[rapid abyss]

Guh but now i need to study for a few more months and spend 100 to take another onee

[wary swallow]

when did we see nondemo moss grotto?

[stoic peak]

then start studying ig

[brittle garnet]

first trailer

[quasi salmon]

well areas like city of tears and kingdoms edge are basically the same size

[brittle garnet]

several parts

[stoic peak]

how does the hunt quests work btw

[wary swallow]

imma go rewatch it right now

[ember violet]

I dont know if moss grotto is going to be like the kings pass lol

[carmine island]

not sure but you probably have to kill something and youll get a reward

[brittle garnet]

we don't really know but i suspect it's a "find and complete this challenge room" like the ones where the gate closes behind you and you have to defeat enemies to get out

[wary swallow]

ur right lmao first shot is a nondemo moss grotto area

[stoic peak]

finding and hunting unique bosses or maybe mini bosses would be so fun idk

[brittle garnet]

and grand hunt obv means bossfight

[ember violet]

The moss grotto may be at the very left of the map and if that's the case I dont see it being that big

[stoic peak]

ohhh

ok but does that just mean they are optional

like you can just find them randomly?

[quasi salmon]

yalllll i think that the sprite where hornet's on the needle like a witch might be the tram of silksong

[polar stag]

I was kind of expecting more people to be talking about the sprites. Imo this is some of the most interesting info we've gotten. There's a lot to speculate on and obsess over.

[brittle garnet]

well we know moss grotto has a subarea called overgrown village (that isn't Bonebottom) so it might be decently large

[stoic peak]

or in order to find them u need to take the quest

[wary swallow]

yeah same

[stoic peak]

fr

[brittle garnet]

yeah i think all the quests are just things that can be found randomly

[wary swallow]

there was a quest board in the trailer

maybe each town has quest boards

[brittle garnet]

and the quest board/log is just for the sake of remembering them and having an incentive to find them

[stoic peak]

hm

[ember violet]

If its overgrown then it wont funciton like a town

[brittle garnet]

but i don't think it's a "you must first accept this quest otherwise it never happens"

that doesn't seem like something team cherry would do

[stoic peak]

ok but it doesnt really make sense to add quests otherwise

[polar stag]

And I will never not obsess over how animated and reactive Hornet's cloak is. I love it. We hardly got that with the Knight's little leaf thing. The animation in Silksong is just gonna be on another level

[ember violet]

But if that used to be a village then it should be near that church

[brittle garnet]

basically i don't think any of the quests are scripted

[mighty crest]

Do we think the clovers are a sub area or a completely different one

[wary swallow]

well some quests are obviously mandatory but there will definately be optional quests

[brittle garnet]

different

[stoic peak]

the quests are really confusing to me

[carmine island]

silksong will have a genocide and pacifist route

[wary swallow]

hollow knight has a ton of completely optional content

[stoic peak]

some do make sense

[brittle garnet]

i don't think there will be mandatory ones. I think it's all just a way of keeping track of shit the NPCs want you to do

[wary swallow]

there might be quests that advance the story

[stoic peak]

okay but you need to explore the world and find them no one tells u to do so

[brittle garnet]

like since it's not a dead kingdom there will be a lot of people asking you to do stuff, so the quest system is like a way of keeping track of that

[stoic peak]

yeahhh makes sense

[brittle garnet]

but i don't think the 'quests' are like, a main part of progression

[stoic peak]

it does make the environment and stuff look more alive ngl

[brittle garnet]

it's more like hints, imo

[stoic peak]

also some npcs look more alive too

[brittle garnet]

reminders to the player that "hey, there's this thing you haven't done yet, go find it"

[short hawk]

they'll give parts for crafting recipes, I reckon

[ember violet]

Doing all the side quests before the first boss (I know that's not possible)

[stoic peak]

lmao

[wary swallow]

they'll give you money which probably will help with progression but other than that you're probably right

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-star-lord-star-lord-marvel-rivals-gif-13551089260114600913

[short hawk]

The humble and ever-reliable Debug Mode:

[quartz cave]

Chat peakers beeing peaker hop on rivals

[polar stag]

Idk a whole lot about the quests other than they exists and there's a quest board now. I hope it's not mostly a bunch of fetch quests or "Kill this many enemies"

[stoic peak]

the combat looks so good it really feels like an actual duel instead of dodging stuff and hitting the boss idk how to describe it

[brittle garnet]

go away we're discussing silksong

[quartz cave]

Ew

[brittle garnet]

shoo

[carmine island]

acrobatic?

[quartz cave]

I hate this chat its becoming midder by the day,,,

[brittle garnet]

then stop talking here

[stoic peak]

yeah but enemies will be smarter too

[carmine island]

i know its horrid

[brittle garnet]

it will be good at last

[short hawk]

YOU'RE getting midder by the day >:C /j

[quartz cave]

I wanted to find the few peak people in chat

[wary swallow]

am I peak?

[short hawk]

they're in a different castle sorry

[brittle garnet]

you're not peak enough to recognize peak

[polar stag]

acrobatic is definitely how I would describe the new combat. Also a lot faster and more involved. Enemies seem more...complex I guess?

[quartz cave]

What level are you on mong

[stoic peak]

they are

[wary swallow]

level?

[brittle garnet]

enemies were said to be more complex

[carmine island]

ground floor

[wary swallow]

I joined like a half hour ago

[stoic peak]

tc said they wanted the enemies to feel less video gamey in edge magazine interview

[quartz cave]

That tells me all i need to know 💔

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-starlord-marvel-rivals-gif-7712026316071171194

[brittle garnet]

it also makes sense since most HK enemies were mindless zombies or animals, while here a lot more are still living, breathing and thinking bugs

[stoic peak]

u looking for ppl to play with?

[wary swallow]

[polar stag]

I love that. This game is gonna be such a joy to explore and play

[short hawk]

yes, seeing as they A) aren't mindless husks, and B) have to fight a much more agile opponent in this game

[sharp jungle]

I can’t wait for the combat system

[stoic peak]

yesyesyes

[sharp jungle]

It looks so fun

[stoic peak]

hell yes

[wary swallow]

yay fellow new person

[sharp jungle]

Yeee sup y’all

[short hawk]

guys I have an idea for Silksong...

air tricks

[polar stag]

Team Cherry shadow drop Silksong tomorrow and my life is yours!

[wary swallow]

hopefully it's not too complicated with all the new abilities

[heavy magnet]

I hope not, I have a thing

[brittle garnet]

i think all the new abilities will be... swappable, rather than all at once

y'know

[wary swallow]

but then again charms are the same way so maybe not

[sharp jungle]

My hyperfixating ass had been pacing around my room thinking about when the game will be shown cause summer games fest and Xbox showcase are a thing

[short hawk]

tbh I think it'll be like this for the COMBAT abilities, not so much for movement skills

[quasi salmon]

this is why mods exist

[wary swallow]

BOTH

[quasi salmon]

ALL ABILITIES AT ONCE

[ember violet]

Except charms are passives

[short hawk]

infinite silk + zero cooldowns + autoclicker

[stoic peak]

it is likely but one thing for sure

silksong tomorrow

[brittle garnet]

well tools are also passive, a lot of them

only 1/3rd of the tools are active abilities

[covert nest]

just saw the sprite sheet

[ember violet]

And the slots for active tools are limited

[wary swallow]

summer game fest sounds more likely to me but I've seen a lot of hype for the xbox event so idk

[covert nest]

interesting take aways

[brittle garnet]

the slots for all tools are limited tbh

[stoic peak]

why do we need to make new tools at benches

are they too op to spam or something

[brittle garnet]

it's just a limit to how many you can use between benches

[wary swallow]

keeps the game interesting?

[brittle garnet]

i imagine because they want to keep ranged options as costing a resource

[stoic peak]

it makes sense but I wonder how many times we can use each tool

[ember violet]

Why would you use your needle if you could just spam bombs

[wary swallow]

collecting materials is an incentive to explore and a way to lock OP tools in advanced areas

[stoic peak]

I meant like what about bosses

[paper tinsel]

You'll probably be able to upgrade tool capacity

[brittle garnet]

i mean it's not like you NEED to use tools

[stoic peak]

spamming tools shpuldnt work right?

[short hawk]

same idea as filling in your map/changing charms when you bench in HK, keeps you going between them (benches will probably be more useful here since you can change entire moveset loadoouts)

[paper tinsel]

Similarly to upgrading maximum soul

[wary swallow]

maybe you have limited uses of each tool inbetween resting

[short hawk]

also, spammability takes away from a tool's value tbh

[wary swallow]

so you have to be strategic

[brittle garnet]

on the topic of spamming tools, reminder how in the demo Lace could deflect your pins if you throw them at her while she's in neutral

[stoic peak]

in hk u need to hit the enemy to get soul so its a risk but tools are readily available with no cooldowns or something?

[brittle garnet]

not maybe, that's how they work, each tool has limited uses which are replenished at benches

[paper tinsel]

Some tools will probably be spamable, but others will likely be more restrictive, at the benefit of being stronger

[short hawk]

thinking is required to play Silksong, guys! sorry everyone, you can pack up your things now

[brittle garnet]

yes but you have limited uses between benches

[stoic peak]

probably

[wary swallow]

fake

[short hawk]

absolutely fake

[wary swallow]

easy

[paper tinsel]

Is the parry we've seen confirmed to be a tool or is it something else

[short hawk]

probably a core ability

[cold maple]

real, that was me

[brittle garnet]

i mean dave khazi was a real dev on hollow knight but he left team cherry right around HK's release

[stoic peak]

yeah cant be a tool

[brittle garnet]

it's probably a spell

[short hawk]

maybe a combat skill (therefore would require a slot to use)

[stoic peak]

I can confirm I was the video itself

[brittle garnet]

since spells are swappable

[paper tinsel]

Oh yeah could be

[wary swallow]

I was the comment section

[topaz totem]

Wait is parry gonna be viable now?

[brittle garnet]

they're talking about a riposte skill, like what hornet does in the fight in HK

[stoic peak]

actually parrying is a nice touch imo

[ember violet]

How is parry even supposed to work

[short hawk]

I was the website

[paper tinsel]

Well for one Silksong will have actual parrying and not just nail clashing

[slate wagon]

such a cool concept, means you can’t just spam tools whenever you wanna do some quick damage yoi gotta actually plan it out
i do wonder how things like buzzsaws will work for those kinda things
does lace just deflect an entire fucking saw

[short hawk]

now who was the browser?

[wary swallow]

my dog was

[stoic peak]

most tools probably will have very limited usage and maybe long cooldowns?

[short hawk]

oh shoot yea I remember now

[ember violet]

Its probably going to break after not moving for long

[paper tinsel]

Tools don't seem to have cooldown, only limited uses

[wary swallow]

OP tools will have way less uses than weak tools

[brittle garnet]

yeah

[short hawk]

no cooldowns, durability/max uses instead

[slate wagon]

i don’t think red tools will have cooldowns aside from the actual uses

[brittle garnet]

don't seem to have cooldowns, only limited uses

[stoic peak]

maybe they deal less dmg to bosses?

[brittle garnet]

why?

[fossil pawn]

anybody who doesent hop on lethal right now hates the company

[stoic peak]

idk they looked op against normal enemies

[carmine island]

I’m hoping tools will be abundant enough that I won’t think to horde them

[brittle garnet]

they're fiiiine

[sharp jungle]

Is it’s true it’s coming out before the museum on September I will be locked in my room playing this game

[brittle garnet]

you replenish tools with a universal resource that drops from enemies, so seems fine

[stoic peak]

I mean it still takes skill obviously but still

[oblique musk]

It seems like basically every enemy dropped shell shards, so I don't think you'll ever be too short.

[wary swallow]

I hope tools are diverse enough to make real builds with

[brittle garnet]

it's likely but not 100% confirmed

[paper tinsel]

Like I said I imagine that maybe you'll be able to upgrade each tool individually to both increase their damage and amount of uses

[supple estuary]

can i get some help rq

[sharp jungle]

Yurrr

[stoic peak]

hmm

[short hawk]

bosses will most likely have enough health to tank a full durability bar of X combat tool and still need to take some melee hits

[wary swallow]

not like oh nail does damag and bomb does damage and buzzsaw does damage that's kinda boring

[topaz totem]

R.E.P.O >

[sharp jungle]

Either way I’m fine with waiting a lil longer cause again it’s being made by 3-4 people lmao

[short hawk]

and enemies seem to horde up more too, so crowd control is a bit more important

[brittle garnet]

we actually know that upgrading tools straight up changes their functionality too, like going from a single thrown pin to 3

[rapid abyss]

It isnt

[ember violet]

We wont be able to upgrade every single tool

[wary swallow]

I think the museam said they have a playable demo

[rapid abyss]

Repo is fun sure but if lethal hadnt come out repo wouldnt even have gotten popular if it existed at all

[ember violet]

They didnt mention the demo

[topaz totem]

I hope you can set levels

[stoic peak]

yo what

[short hawk]

I kinda hope that actually upgrading tools (as in changing how tools work) is sparse

[sharp jungle]

Yea in Australia they’re having a demo

[stoic peak]

I dont think they said that

[topaz totem]

im messing around love them both, lethal saved mh friend group

[stoic peak]

ik the thing but

[paper tinsel]

Eventually you will but yeah you'll have to make a choice

[stoic peak]

I misunderstood mb

[wary swallow]

the IGN article (where the sprite sheet came from) says there'll be a playable demo

[brittle garnet]

they said the game will be playable at the exhibit, and earlier said the exhibit will have 'custom builds' of the games, playable in the museum

[sharp jungle]

Lemme leave the country rq lmao

[brittle garnet]

and the exhibit will show off parts of the process of developing the game and stuff

[stoic peak]

yeah so it wouldnt really make sense to create a new demo before release right?

[paper tinsel]

Oh yeah I forgot about that, I love upgrades that change functionality

[stoic peak]

I mean why bother

[shell yacht]

?tag sources @slim kestrel

[white sail]

Official and reliable sources of information about Hollow Knight and Hollow Knight Silksong

• Leth's twitter / Team Cherry's twitter
• This server ( we keep up to date with the actual news in #hk-announcements , with micro-updates sometimes pinned in #sk-discussion )
• r/hollowknight pinned messages by the mod team
• Team Cherry's official YouTube channel and Website

Any and all information outside of this cannot be verified as truth, consume outside information at your own risk

[ember violet]

It wouldnt make sense to put a game in a museum before its release lol

[stoic peak]

yeah

[wary swallow]

I think this all but confirms it'll be out before the museum showcase

[shell yacht]

I was at the store getting ready to set it on fire because they don't have a single basic USB cable

[brittle garnet]

i mean this seems like a worthy thing to bother for, a whole museum exhibit (team cherry showed Hollow Knight at this same museum before, as well, and i don't think this is the sort of thing they will make a demo for only on the last second)

[stoic peak]

yeah I dont thinks its a big stretch u know

[wary swallow]

so june seems most likely to me, start of summer, multiple game events it just seems right

[stoic peak]

hm

[brittle garnet]

like i think a whole custom demo is not something they would have enough time to make between release and the exhibit opening, so they probably already have the demo made or in the process of finishing it

[stoic peak]

yeah its almost finished thats why they are also making a demo maybe

[wary swallow]

I swear if this demo delayed silksong...

[brittle garnet]

but we don't know what's the extent of the 'custom' in the demo

it could be some very simple and quick things

[oblique musk]

I would call it the most likely option, but definitely not guaranteed. Technically, assuming no delays, there is a non-zero chance Silksong comes out for every day between now and December 31st.

[sharp jungle]

And I’m pretty sure they showcase a lot of boss fights for those demos too if I’m not mistaken

[stoic peak]

at least a trailer should drop

[brittle garnet]

yeah they said even that they will show the code and logic behind the game's most challenging fights

[wary swallow]

a silksong shadowdrop would go crazy

[paper tinsel]

Well, in the worst case scenario that the game somehow doesn't release before the museum thing, there will be new footage that day

[oblique musk]

That is probably the least possible option. Making a demo would delay it by, like, a week. Maybe 2-3 at most.

[stoic peak]

yeah still win ig

[brittle garnet]

like overall i think the exhibition will have spoilers that wouldn't make sense to reveal before the game comes out

[wary swallow]

maybe the custom demo is a boss mode similar to hall of gods

[stoic peak]

nahhh

[wary swallow]

a week to much...

[stoic peak]

it cant be hard

[wary swallow]

if they're talking about the bosses it makes sense but I agree it might be too hard

[brittle garnet]

but also, because it is an exhibition maybe the spoilers wouldn't matter that much since not a lot of people will see them. But on the other hand people will record everything so it will get spread around either way

[mighty crest]

If it is a demo, I wonder what area it’ll be in

[calm thorn]

after all, silksong's appearance doesn't mean it will come out before

[pulsar trout]

Swinch 2

[stoic peak]

but we will still see new footage

[brittle garnet]

i mean realistically if they have the game finished and are just waiting for like, Summer Game Fest, they'd have time for stuff

[stoic peak]

thats what I was thinking

[mighty crest]

I want to see more Greymoor

[stoic peak]

or switch 2 drop and shi

[brittle garnet]

it most likely will

[wary swallow]

all the other games at the exhibit have already released and it would be weird to make a demo for a game that comes out in a month anyway

[calm thorn]

june trailer and release date would be great

[brittle garnet]

true

[wary swallow]

june shadowdrop would go crazy

[stoic peak]

we will definitely have something by late june or sm

[sharp jungle]

Preorders too

[oblique musk]

I feel like that kinda supports the idea that it's coming out before then. The hardest fights are likely much later, which would be massive gameplay spoilers. It would be like putting Radiance or THK in a HK demo.

[sharp jungle]

Omg I hope we get a collectors edition

[wary swallow]

imagine a long trailer at summer game fest and then it fades to black... OUT NOW

[stoic peak]

if I remember correctly there was also this leak that mentioned late june

so called leak or ehatever

[sharp jungle]

I’d drop everything

[brittle garnet]

i mean that's a baby's first guess

like June is the most obvious month to guess, i wouldn't put much weight in a leak

[oblique musk]

I think at this point there's a "leak" for every day left in the year.

[strong sorrel]

guys hollow knight silksong releases august 12th, trust me, i leaked it

[stoic peak]

hello guys team cherry here we were secretly developing zoteboat along with silksong

[brittle garnet]

and also correlation =/= causation, so even if someone predicts something and it ends up happening that way, it doesn't actually mean that person knew it would happen

[wary swallow]

well post april 2nd it's obvious but the leak was before that

[calm thorn]

it's cool to see that the wait is soon over but my mind still doesn't realises that i will play the game

[shell yacht]

There was no leak

[stoic peak]

crazy to think we might actually see the day…

[brittle garnet]

the guy that claimed to work at xbox backend said that Silksong is internally scheduled for June? I think that counts as a leak

[wary swallow]

? I remember people talking about a leak in like midmarch

[stoic peak]

yeah

yes it was before april second

[shell yacht]

Yeah that doesn't mean shit lmao

[proven oak]

Omg yes news today

[brittle garnet]

i mean it could be a fake leak, but still counts as a leak

[stoic peak]

praise the skong

[paper tinsel]

Honestly I would like TC to drop Silksong at 15 dollars, not because I can't afford but because it'd be a nice power move

[shell yacht]

It doesn't count as a leak unless it's real

It's just another person bullshitting until proven right

[brittle garnet]

rumored leak

[wary swallow]

it's gonna be at least 25 dollars

[brittle garnet]

but yeah i agree i just explained above

[shell yacht]

It has about as much credibility as the shitty subreddit

[stoic peak]

every leaker is reliable until they mention silksong ahh

[oblique musk]

What is this "lak" you speak of?

[paper tinsel]

Nah it won't

25 dollars is the max if anything

[brittle garnet]

did you get up on the wrong leg powdered

why so negative

[oblique musk]

It'll be 500 dollars for you specifically.

[brittle garnet]

actually nvm that's normal

[stoic peak]

some dude said late june before we got 2025 as release year

[shell yacht]

Crazy is that there's some "leakers" with an 0/3 track record and people still believe them

[stoic peak]

I dont

[brittle garnet]

the only leak that was true was the snitch

but then he retired

[stoic peak]

I was just sayin

[shell yacht]

I'm pissed off and I'm taking it out on stupid people that aren't here

[brittle garnet]

but like yeah June is beyond obvious

[shell yacht]

No it's not lol

[wary swallow]

june is so likely

[brittle garnet]

i mean it's an obvious guess to make

[quartz cave]

Do it

[shell yacht]

Obvious guess to make includes any day from now until the end of this year

No other smaller window or specific date has any more weight to it

[formal marsh]

Hi, Mary Gibson, daughter of Ari Gibson here. Silksong will come out on December 28th

[brittle garnet]

that's not true

[wary swallow]

I don't think it drops right at the start of the school year

[stoic peak]

guys Im actually john cherry and Im releasing the silk as we speak

[strong sorrel]

im assuming it's gonna be released before september 18th, wouldnt make sense for it to be done and completed and be at a museum before we get our hands on it

[cold maple]

june for sure

[oak elk]

[brittle garnet]

i don't think you can just seriously believe that team cherry will drop it whenever without thinking about the timing

[shell yacht]

Cheap indie game/start of the school year it's not important

[oblique musk]

We're pretty sure the complete version won't be available at the museum.

[wary swallow]

I'm Leth's grandfather and the game comes out yesterday

[strong sorrel]

fair enough

[stoic peak]

I love the boiler crab guy he spittin fax

[cold maple]

june june june june

[shell yacht]

I never said they wouldn't think about the timing but nobody in this channel has ever come up with a logical reason for their random ass guesses, their reasoning could be the most random shit, they could pick Ari's birthday

[wary swallow]

it's a big enough game that they probably want to release it at the start of summer

[rocky igloo]

Has there been any more silksong news

[shell yacht]

We got a new Sprite sheet today

[rocky igloo]

Since the Nintendo Direct

[shell yacht]

It's in the pins

[brittle garnet]

the logical reasoning is that people tend to release games in certain parts of the year because it is advantageous to do so

[tidal ruin]

is silksong confirmed to be released by september, or just playable at an event?

[shell yacht]

Yeah and the people who say that also think it's competing with GTA VI

[wary swallow]

especially with multiple game events at the beggining of june...

[oblique musk]

Just the event, so far.

[brittle garnet]

that's irrelevant to the truth of that statement

[wary swallow]

GTA 6 probably isn't gonna be releasing in june

[brittle garnet]

and yes it is actually competing to some extent

[shell yacht]

It's not actually because even with all the correct information you can get to the wrong answer and that's what happens all the fucking time

[tidal ruin]

just saved myself a whole primacon video

[oblique musk]

Dodged a fuckin bullet with that one

[shell yacht]

You never have a reason to watch a YouTuber for news, they don't have the news before we do

[brittle garnet]

GTA VI audience won't steal silksong's audience but releasing near a big game can hurt the outreach of your game to new customers

[tidal ruin]

I haven't been keeping up, started playing dredge and temporarily forgot about skong

[stoic peak]

it definitely will have bad effects for silksong

[cold maple]

didn’t leth say they would want to drop the game during peak times and not random times

[shell yacht]

Dredge looks fun, I wish there wasn't so many DLC packs

[wary swallow]

GTA will probably wither be end of year or delayed

[cold maple]

in this very chat

[shell yacht]

I'm bettingGTA 6 isn't getting delayed

[stoic peak]

did I say something wrong lol mb

[cold maple]

hahahahaha

[oblique musk]

He did, but "they want to" is a different beast from "they will". Sometimes devs need to compromise. 20 years in the can.

[wary swallow]

more june reasoning

[cold maple]

that’s true, but to say a june hypothesis has no logical basis is a reach

[brittle garnet]

you know the meme of the IQ bell curve and the people at the highest and lowest IQ having the same opinion and the people in the middle of the curve having a different one? Sorry powdered but you're in the middle.

[shell yacht]

Speaking of 20 years in the can, that shantae game boy advance game that was 22 years delayed came out on scuffed hardware

[brittle garnet]

yikes

[cold maple]

june fo shaw !

[brittle garnet]

also like TC has Leth and he certainly does know industry trends

[wary swallow]

what does leth even do lol

[brittle garnet]

so if they can they will probably release at an opportune time

[wary swallow]

marketing but we barely got any news for years

[shell yacht]

sorry but I already drew the meme where I'm the smart correct one and you're the redditor

[tidal ruin]

i somehow only noticed one of them until you said that

[brittle garnet]

he basically does publishing

[cold maple]

therefore june stocks rise!

[oblique musk]

Oh no, there is definitely a logical basis for it. I think it's coming out in June. All I'm saying is that nothing is 100% until the game is out.

[stoic peak]

then Im all in on june

[brittle garnet]

backend stuff, communicating between Team Cherry and other publishers and storefronts

[shell yacht]

I initially was only going to buy the base game but then I decided to watch a playthrough and spoiled it all, then they added a bunch of DLC that is not very cheap and it turned me off from buying it all together

[paper tinsel]

Marketing isn't just showing news but also the internal boring stuff

[brittle garnet]

Leth's job is NOT advertising or community management

[tidal ruin]

the discounted dlc bundle is more than the base game, thats not very cool

[cold maple]

all in baby

[oblique musk]

We don't need to be marketed to. The point of marketing is to encourage people to buy the game. We are, all of us, going to buy the game. As far as Leth is concerned, we no longer matter.

[brittle garnet]

like yeah he basically does publishing which means all of the boring legal and similar stuff that you need to do in order to release a game

[wary swallow]

sad...

[brittle garnet]

marketing isn't news

[serene chasm]

this

[shell yacht]

Y'all getting constant updates is not something that was ever going to happen

[oblique musk]

Maybe, but it's good business.

[paper tinsel]

Yep pretty much

[cold maple]

who cares

[brittle garnet]

if you know silksong exists, marketing has done its job

[cold maple]

june babyyyyy

[stoic peak]

yeahhh

[cold maple]

silksong is here

[shell yacht]

They revealed the game, they worked on it, they show a little bit more of it. Constant news was never going to happen

[cold maple]

just a matter of time

[wary swallow]

this is actually a very good point

[shell yacht]

Yeah it's really funny when people come in here and say "they failed at their jobs the hype is dying" meanwhile they are in here talking about the game

[cold maple]

arguing over news NOW is insane, we see the light

[wary swallow]

hundreds of people spam game events for silksong, marketing has done its job

[subtle flint]

This.

[cold maple]

i see it guys

[wary swallow]

you are the messiah

[brittle garnet]

do nothing
game blows up

How do they do it?

[cold maple]

silksiah

[subtle flint]

Most wishlisted game on steam, its dead

[stoic peak]

lmao

[modest cloud]

just for this silkgsong need to be the goty

[cold maple]

that’s all in the past, time to look forward

[stoic peak]

Im glad they didnt rush anything so its all good imo

[brittle garnet]

the hype is dead! It's so dead that i feel the need to comment on it on youtube videos talking about the unreleased game

[cold maple]

onward to silk

onward to song

[stoic peak]

the hype never died its just going to come out someday

[wary swallow]

I wonder if it's making sure the game's not rushed or just scope creep

[random shale]

hornet void confirmed???

[cold maple]

hahahahaha

[modest cloud]

we need a godhome in silksong fr

[stoic peak]

lmao

[paper tinsel]

Silksong hype is so dead that I'm gonna watch every single videogame event hoping to see it

[umbral ether]

maybe both?

[brittle garnet]

"hype is dead" and similar sentiments are just cope

[modest cloud]

i feel like hornet is 80% void

[wary swallow]

best case scenario

[shell yacht]

The game literally cannot be rushed they don't have a deadline

[stoic peak]

and how did u come up with 80 percent

[shell yacht]

They are working on their own timeline

[random shale]

you can't be 80%

[wary swallow]

hopefully that's for the best

[umbral ether]

i always assumed it is scope creep but it could also be not rushing the game

[stoic peak]

guys Im 80% percent void btw

[modest cloud]

idk if im bugged but you dont have a profile

[gray parcel]

I hope they have the deadline set as 2100 on their office whiteboard

[wary swallow]

too many rushed AAA games these days

[random shale]

you're bugged, try restarting discord

[stoic peak]

a bug u say?

[wary swallow]

he's trolling he doesn't have a pfp

[random shale]

the deadline is 2025, we can't make those kinds of jokes anymore 💔

[shell yacht]

Banned for missinfo

[modest cloud]

yeah i noticed i just restearted

[oblique musk]

He looks fine to me.

[paper tinsel]

There's no scenario where that's not the best case

[slate wagon]

put TK’s head on this and you got a teenage vessel

[tidal ruin]

thats actually a bug with windows. Common issue, you just need to find a folder called "System 32" and delete it
(for legal reasons, do not actually do this)

[gray parcel]

They said that back in 2023, it’s still a possibility ❤️‍🩹

[shell yacht]

The end of this year is not a deadline

[random shale]

noooo

[random shale]

I mean technically it is

[cold maple]

where is silksong actually

[gray parcel]

Today is a scary day

[wary swallow]

damn we got a hardcore doubter here lmao

[tidal ruin]

on ari's computer

[gray parcel]

The dawn of my reckoning

[stoic peak]

yeah if scary means good

[cold maple]

where is that

i’ll leak it

[tidal ruin]

in ari's house

[brittle garnet]

powdered is #1 doubter

the doubtest among them

[cold maple]

take a trip to the down under

[shell yacht]

Do you even know what that word means

[random shale]

never!

[stoic peak]

imagine being a doubter in may

[wary swallow]

I'm new to the server but not the community

I know what doubter is

[shell yacht]

Then you don't know what the word means cool

[tidal ruin]

its almost the 1 month anniversary of the release window

[cold maple]

27k days is a doomer but there’s nothing stopping tc from saying nevermind, who is gonna tell them no

nobody

[shell yacht]

I stated an objective fact, the end of the year is not a deadline. They lose nothing by not releasing it by the end of this year because they are an indie company without bosses

[random shale]

imagine if EA buys team cherry and cancels silksong a day before the release date

[random shale]

the people will riot if they don't release it by the end of the year

[stoic peak]

3/10 bait silksong tomorrow

[oblique musk]

Hey, it pays to be a doubter. If you believe, and it doesn't come out, you lose. If you doubt, and it doesn't come out you win. If you believe, and it comes out, you win massively. If you doubt, and it comes out, you win massively. It's a real Pascal's Wager situation.

[random shale]

they'll lose their dignity

[wary swallow]

we get zoteboat sooner then

[shell yacht]

They're not being forced to release it before the year ends so it's not a deadline

[brittle garnet]

Doubters need to win every time
Believers only need to win once

[tidal ruin]

My guess is that they've got the game finished by now, they don't seem like the kind of team that even thinks about a window before being entirely sure of it (2023 doesn't count)

[random shale]

zoteboat is as real as titanfall 3

[marsh ibex]

It’s not doubting to say that delays and such can still happen

[umbral ether]

it is a release window right not a deadline

[shell yacht]

Oh yeah they'll lose my respect and a lot of other people's if we get another window that falls through, but that doesn't make it a deadline

[marsh ibex]

also community division is corny anyways

doing this doubter believer shit is lame

[brittle garnet]

a self imposed deadline is still a deadline

[wary swallow]

I mean it's not a hard deadline but it's a sort of deadline nonetheless

[shell yacht]

It's not

It's literally not the definition of the word

[brittle garnet]

it is if you call it that

words are funky

[cold maple]

a reputation deadline? credibility deadline?

[tidal ruin]

this means it is not a deadline, because there is nothing stopping it from releasing later

[cold maple]

image deadline?

[wary swallow]

trust deadline?

[stoic peak]

its a release window bruh obviously they cant give spesific time frames but to think the game will come out this year is more than ok doubting is a stretch

[wary swallow]

does technically say should

[random shale]

maybe the australians will exile team cherry and they will be forced to wander the ocean for decades while making silksong, and just before they finally pass away from old age, ari releases the game

[brittle garnet]

this definition doesn't mean what you just said it means

[cold maple]

yes

[random shale]

and then the game turns out to be horrible

[shell yacht]

They'll just cut their ground tethers and let them float away into space

[tidal ruin]

yep
now tell me why it shouldn't (other than community being sad, they obviously aren't concerned about that)

[brittle garnet]

by that definition a self imposed deadline is still a deadline

[cold maple]

it’s not a company deadline but they should want to hit it for PR reasons

[brittle garnet]

i mean if they themselves think it should, they don't need external factors

[cold maple]

i guess

[random shale]

it's a deadline cuz it's the latest it can release before people are sad

[wary swallow]

for PR reasons they would lose a ton of trust if the game was delayed AGAIN

[wispy stream]

right ofc pascals wager only the most respected argument

[brittle garnet]

they don't need reasons

[stoic peak]

anyone wanna have some popcorn🍿

[tidal ruin]

"other than community disappointment"
proceeds to list community disappointment

[cold maple]

inverse of pascal wager

[stoic peak]

no? ok

[cold maple]

i like kettle corn

[tidal ruin]

thats a more accurate definition, the one I found was oxford iirc

[stoic peak]

dude why bring up word definitons its so lame its not even the point here

[oblique musk]

Pass that shit

[random shale]

it was, this is merriam webster

[shell yacht]

I like the first definition listed

[stoic peak]

everyone has google dawg

[wispy stream]

hey my mouth WAS RIGHT THERE

[slate wagon]

because this is the internet and i have to be the most correct one

[cold maple]

yeah this is just nitpicking

[stoic peak]

have some

[random shale]

that's silksong's release date cuz the people are gonna end up shooting team cherry if they don't release it on time

[tidal ruin]

"silksong is a looter shooter"
so, if someone doesn't know what a looter shooter is, should you tell them?

[wary swallow]

putting 2025 in the nintendo direct means that many people who aren't hardcore fans and will buy the game regardless (us) would lose trust in TC if the game isn't released which sets a bad precedent

[cold maple]

obviously it’s not a company deadline but the whole world sees 2025 by their own hands so they wanna hit 2025

[tidal ruin]

"other than community disappointment"
proceeds to list community disappointment
(rewording it doesn't change what it means)

[oblique musk]

But, it is. Or did you not read the latest blog post? (/s)

[sharp agate]

If silksong is a scam any of yall switching over to Genshin?

[wary swallow]

i misworded this I meant we would buy the game regardless

[stoic peak]

the fuck kinda question is that

[fiery burrow]

SS was delayed before

[random shale]

that's what you said

[umbral ether]

no

[random shale]

genshin is (no offense) really dogshit

[stoic peak]

fr

[wary swallow]

but on a smaller scale, there was no prior release window

[oblique musk]

I think I would rather just not play video games

[fiery burrow]

Delays aren't deliberate and if SS were to delay this year it wouldn't exactly be foreseeable

[fiery burrow]

Yes there was

[tidal ruin]

They aren't losing any money from a delay, nobody is going to hate the game because they have to wait a little longer
Silksong is projected to release in 2025, and it probably will, but there is nothing and no one that says it has to

[random shale]

is your pfp gup or gip from commercial success video game risk of rain 2, and from commercial success dlc survivors of the void for commercial success video game risk of rain 2

[cold maple]

we get it

[fiery burrow]

Survivors of the Void was not a hit

[stoic peak]

yeah so 2+2=4 wow so informative

[tidal ruin]

maybe you do

[brittle garnet]

Right but thats like, obvious and not worth bringing up

[random shale]

yes it was 😭

[fiery burrow]

Explain why its mid

[stoic peak]

yeah

[brittle garnet]

Anything can not happen

[wary swallow]

? we were told about the release window of early 2023 AFTER it passed right?

[stoic peak]

guys something will happen

[fiery burrow]

No

We knew about it beforehand from Xbox and TC playtesters

[wary swallow]

I didn't know that

👍

[stoic peak]

from what I know they planned to release in 2023 but then decided to delay it?

[fiery burrow]

Lemme bump that up to 705 negative reviews rq

[leaden delta]

switching scam methods ig

[random shale]

how is it mid

[fiery burrow]

Viend is in it

[leaden delta]

it’s worse cuz those guys r colorist

[fiery burrow]

racist?

[wary swallow]

that's what I thought

[slate wagon]

void fiend is cool

[tidal ruin]

Viend is amazing idk what ur on about

[wary swallow]

alr gtg

[fiery burrow]

Viend is the worst character in the game

[random shale]

viend is annoying yeah, but you can just not play them, also symbiotic scorpion is in it (best item in the game) so...

[wary swallow]

this server seems fun lol

[random shale]

chef???

[brittle garnet]

Viend is boring but overall SotV was good

[fiery burrow]

Symbiotic scorpion is boriiiing

[random shale]

rex?

[tidal ruin]

Viend is so much fun, if we wanna talk unfun characters play seeker

[random shale]

how is an item boring 😭

[fiery burrow]

Only good part of SOTV is the maps and void items

[uneven carbon]

too much ss news in a this amount of time to be a coincidence
its dropping next week

[random shale]

seeker is fun, viend is good, but boring

[stoic peak]

lmao

[brittle garnet]

Worst character is chef and second worst is huntress by far

[random shale]

railgunner??????

[fiery burrow]

By virtue of not being interesting

[random shale]

REX???????

[fiery burrow]

Oh railgunner is cool

[stoic peak]

no way u jus said huntress

[south vigil]

hey don’t hate on railgunner

[gray parcel]

Bug ass gym

[fiery burrow]

I like Chef

[brittle garnet]

Rex the goat

[tidal ruin]

I didn't like seeker because I like shredding my opponents
Seeker doesn't do that very well

[fiery burrow]

Fun character. All SOTS survivors are bangers

[south vigil]

HUNTRESS IS NOT THE SECOND WORST????? WHATS WRONG WITH YOU

[brittle garnet]

But chef sucks

Like hes just poorly made

[south vigil]

other than chef

[stoic peak]

yeah

[brittle garnet]

Sucks from a quality standpoint

[uneven carbon]

never trust gearbox to do anything

[umbral ether]

isn't chef getting reworked or has that already happened

[random shale]

uhhhhhh

[random shale]

hate to break it to you...

[tidal ruin]

Seeker has a good design and all but I didn't enjoy playing her (its a her right?)

[stoic peak]

not yet

[brittle garnet]

Yeah shes terrible

[south vigil]

all sots survivors getting reworked but they’re gonna be

[stoic peak]

nahh shes fun

[random shale]

it's happening soon

[south vigil]

no she isn’t

[brittle garnet]

She totally is

[random shale]

seeker can't shred lol

[fiery burrow]

Seeker is good damage with great survivability

[random shale]

use her alt primary

[stoic peak]

why dont u like her

[brittle garnet]

Seeker is kinda OP

[random shale]

actually never mind I forgot her R move lol

[south vigil]

seeker isn’t bad but she isn’t amazing either

[tidal ruin]

I love having to pay $1 to view a discord video

[random shale]

what?

[fiery burrow]

what

[brittle garnet]

I dont like huntress because she has bad damage and shes paper thin and dies by being sneezed on

[oblique musk]

huh?

[fiery burrow]

The money goes to me right

$1 is far too little

[stoic peak]

sounds like skill issue to me git gud(jus joking)

[tidal ruin]

My pc is being weird, it won't show the video in discord and downloading it brings up a "incompatible file" error that says I need to pay to fix it

[fiery burrow]

Huntress is alright

[random shale]

she has good damage, she doesn't have bad hp, and skill issue (the 2nd and 3rd points were the same btw...)

[south vigil]

later on proc chains deal all your damage and you’re squishy no matter what so her dodging capabilities are great

[fiery burrow]

Could use some damage buffs otherwise she's fairly fun

[brittle garnet]

Seeker would be amazing with a few QoL fixes

[random shale]

like?

[south vigil]

hot take: seeker’s balls move is bad

[fiery burrow]

Only thing I'm iffy about on seeker is her special. Its a strange minigame

[random shale]

very hot take cuz it's just wrong

[brittle garnet]

Later on the character you play doesnt matter

[south vigil]

i like the other one better

[tidal ruin]

I think if you can get past the animations false son is a fun character

[south vigil]

yeah fair enough

[random shale]

it's really annoying in solo

[stoic peak]

I never played the new survivors they look broken and Im waiting for the update

[random shale]

that's fine, but the alt is not bad

[fiery burrow]

False Son is broken in the best way. Please never tweak him Gearbox

[south vigil]

false son has some cracked builds

[stoic peak]

fr

[random shale]

false son used to be broken til they patched the stupid slam glitch so now it's just kind of broken

[south vigil]

yeah fair enough it just makes me get too close to things and die cause i’m stupid and dumb

[random shale]

that's why it gives you barrier

[tidal ruin]

I love stacking backup magazines to somehow make myself move faster

[random shale]

anyways, since we're off topic, someone should play rusted warfare with me

[brittle garnet]

More consistent Improvements with her special stacks (each ability stacks differently and only the last stack gives stat buffs)
Bigger range and damage of her special

[random shale]

they stack differently? what?

also the last stack is supposed to be the big important one, and the special is more of a support thing, not really a damage dealer

[brittle garnet]

Yeah so the stacks she gains for doing her special?

[random shale]

yeah?

[brittle garnet]

Some abilities get improved per stack. Like utility, but only 3rd hit of primary. But her secondary only scales the heal. Her special only scales the damage.

[stoic peak]

I havent played in a while my last run was just after the item rework update are they a lot better now?

[fiery burrow]

Not too fond of support moves when I'm playing singleplayer

[brittle garnet]

Etc.

[random shale]

huh

[stoic peak]

the items

[random shale]

that's really weird

[south vigil]

yeah the items are not stupid now

[brittle garnet]

The special would be way better if the damage was a lot more and the size scaled with stacks

[random shale]

that's why I don't really like her in solo, but she's pretty fun in multiplayer

[brittle garnet]

Seeker has no support moves

[random shale]

💔

[brittle garnet]

Her moves can just occasionally do support collaterally

[random shale]

read the green

[slate wagon]

i always forget this game has a multiplayer mode
anytime i play i play with my brother and it’s a race to steal all the items

[brittle garnet]

I remain correct in what i said

Meditate is not a support move

[fiery burrow]

That's yellow

[brittle garnet]

Also it only revives when you get the 7th stack

[slate wagon]

star are you color blind

[fiery burrow]

Maybe you are

[brittle garnet]

If people die after you get the 7th stack they dont get revived

[random shale]

uhh dawg?

[fiery burrow]

You gonna say my pfp is green next?

[stoic peak]

go take a test rq

[brittle garnet]

No your pfp a actually is yellow

[random shale]

uhhh dawg?

[tidal ruin]

sorry what?

[south vigil]

don’t they revive if you do the move another time

[fiery burrow]

They're right

[random shale]

what???

[brittle garnet]

No!

[random shale]

it gives allies a heal and revives them

[brittle garnet]

Unless they fixed that

[tidal ruin]

Reviving and healing teammates is about as supportive as it gets

[stoic peak]

bruh

[south vigil]

oh i guess i just made that up and believed it or something then (or they fixed it)

[fiery burrow]

Y'all probably think Hunting Horn is a support weapon 🥱

[brittle garnet]

Yeah no teammates will ever be in range to get healed by that

[tidal ruin]

its not exclusively support, but it still is very supportive

[random shale]

I heal my teammates all the time with it

[random shale]

sounds like you just play with bad teammates

[brittle garnet]

You mostly use it to heal yourself and damage nearby things

[random shale]

no enemies are ever in the range to get damaged by it?

[slate wagon]

it is
support for myself yoi think those buffs are for you?
it’s just a happy accident that you have ears too

[brittle garnet]

Thats true after the first couple stages

[south vigil]

i never use it if things are near me cause then i’ll be stabbed

[brittle garnet]

But you mostly use meditate to heal yourself and get stacks

[fiery burrow]

Getting hit with a tigrex roar should negate your buffs

[tidal ruin]

if you can do the inputs fast enough you shouldn't need to worry about taking lethal damage

[random shale]

hornette lol

[fiery burrow]

Teach HH players fear

[brittle garnet]

Any support is collateral

[shell yacht]

Imagine if using earplugs meant you didn't get buffs

[south vigil]

has anybody put all the frames we have from new sprites together into full animations yet

[random shale]

including the buffs specifically designed to be support, the revive, and the heal that works all the time?

[fiery burrow]

Yeah

[random shale]

what does this mean? am I stupid?

[south vigil]

yes

[brittle garnet]

The buffs are not designed to be support, only you get them

[fiery burrow]

Monster Hunter

[shell yacht]

There's an armor skill in monster Hunter that negates the roars of monsters from staggering you

[random shale]

that's just wrong

[fiery burrow]

wish that was in HK

[tidal ruin]

I take back my earlier statement about seeker not being able to deal damage, these things are pretty decent

[random shale]

monster hunter is the worst game ever 😡

[fiery burrow]

you get it

[brittle garnet]

Meditate is as much support as a bungus

[shell yacht]

There's also a weapon that plays music and gives buffs so if you can't hear then you don't get buffed

[tidal ruin]

I forgot they existed until now

[brittle garnet]

Aside from the revive

[south vigil]

which one? it’s a franchise be more specific

[shell yacht]

That's not how it works and it would be a horrible thing if it did

[random shale]

all of them 😡

[south vigil]

ah okay

[fiery burrow]

No monster hunter is peak

[random shale]

an item specifically designed to be a support item that's also very good at supporting?

[brittle garnet]

Oh yeah that i actually was mistaken about

[fiery burrow]

GU

[slate wagon]

mh is peak

proceeds to show rise

[subtle flint]

https://imgur.com/3SvtVR8

[brittle garnet]

It really isnt either of these things mostly

[shell yacht]

The answer is actually stories and stories two but they aren't real games so it doesn't count

[random shale]

in the only monster hunter game I ever played, I got lost and I couldn't do anything besides walk around in the hub

wait acrid is called croco in the ror2 files 😭

[shell yacht]

It's one of the 14 weapon classes, it is not a support item but if you pay attention to the buffs or if you build skills into it you can help your teammates as much as it helps you

[brittle garnet]

But anyway the initial point was that meditate isnt a support move, in that you dont have to use it to support

[random shale]

I hate monster hunter I hate monster hunter I hate monster hunter!!!

[subtle flint]

croco c:

[brittle garnet]

Rex is called treebot

[random shale]

I mean you don't have to, but that's what it's usually used for

[brittle garnet]

And artificer is mage in the files

[random shale]

nahhh 😭

[fiery burrow]

There's a scoutfly in yo hair

[random shale]

I mean that makes sense

[brittle garnet]

That is also not true its mainly used for healing yourself

:)

[random shale]

speak for yourself

[shell yacht]

Why lmao

[brittle garnet]

I am

[random shale]

worst game series ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shell yacht]

Best*

[brittle garnet]

But yeah seeker just needs meditate to have a larger radius and more damage

[random shale]

since when was their a buff in ror2 called beetle juice 😭

[slate wagon]

can confirm mh is peak

[brittle garnet]

And of course the 2 other alt skills

[random shale]

I literally watched beetle juice today too 😭

[random shale]

that I agree with

[cold maple]

i would kill for this creature

[subtle flint]

the goobert

[random shale]

cats are evil

[brittle garnet]

Thats the debuff the flying drones give you that the beetle queen spawns

[random shale]

I never knew what those things did

probably cuz they're basically useless

[brittle garnet]

They slow your attack and movement speed

[random shale]

and lessen damage

[brittle garnet]

Its actually really annoying

[stoic peak]

do they also lessen dmg

[random shale]

no

[stoic peak]

yeah ok

[random shale]

tar is called claygoo 😭

[brittle garnet]

I do hope they rework chef quite significantly

[subtle flint]

i love me some candy with tar flavour

[random shale]

agreed

[brittle garnet]

Also will be cool to see the survivors get their alt skills finally

[random shale]

I mean they have alt skills

[brittle garnet]

They have 1

Instead of the usual 3

Theyre each missing 2

[random shale]

I mean a lot of characters don't have 3

[brittle garnet]

No they all do

[south vigil]

oh they’re adding more alt skills?

[brittle garnet]

Every character has 3 alts

[south vigil]

void fiend:

[random shale]

viend

[brittle garnet]

Void fiend has 4 alts