sk-discussion

[spare fractal]

oh geez... that sucks to hear

[smoky nebula]

Who do you have

[surreal knot]

Luck

[chilly crane]

My brothers making money I said cheese Louise

[dapper dove]

my parents are too easy on me i don't know anything

[surreal knot]

what's 2+2

[smoky nebula]

Beat the lamb as Issac

[uneven carbon]

5

get it, because it’s wrong

[surreal knot]

Yeah you'll make it in life dw

[dapper dove]

11 in a base 3 system

[viscid wind]

I've just unlocked it lives so unlocking negative will be much easier, probably

who the fuck uses base 3

[chilly crane]

I do

[dapper dove]

me

[tidal ruin]

I moderately dislike nintendo

[uneven carbon]

why do people say 2+2 instead of 1+1, is it cuz 1+1 is overused? and if so, then once 2+2 becomes overused then will we move up to 3+3?

[sinful flare]

oh yeah its also very heavily luck

you should just enable console and spawn in missing poster and die that way

thats what i did

[viscid wind]

vanilla run

[chilly crane]

Vanilla bean

[sinful flare]

yeah achievements dont get disabled while console is open or mods are installed

[uneven carbon]

game so ass you gotta cheat 💔

[viscid wind]

Don't you have to kill delirium thrice

[chilly crane]

Isaac is buns

[viscid wind]

Also my ass is not playing the lost without holy mantle and my ass is not playing greedier for 19 months straight

[uneven carbon]

I tried doing dead god yeah no i’m good

[viscid wind]

how do i unlock greedier anyway

[uneven carbon]

fuck off with that tainted loss bullshit

[sinful flare]

no you just have to kill the lamb as isaac

[quiet token]

Through greed machine lmao

[sinful flare]

greed machine

[viscid wind]

Tainted :.|:;

[chilly crane]

Shinji get in the mech shinji

[viscid wind]

For mods with achievements unlocked

[uneven carbon]

how did you do that so quickly is that a key bind

what is wrong with you

[sinful flare]

you can do the same thing

[viscid wind]

It's 9 symbols

[uneven carbon]

7 symbols too many

| _

[smoky nebula]

:.|:;

[uneven carbon]

now this is perfect

[sinful flare]

:.|:;

[dapper dove]

why is ssdisc filled with loss

[quiet token]

I've gotten dead god it ain't that bad ngl

[smoky nebula]

Colon period midline colon semicolon

[cerulean sable]

i think we shoild get Booty Grotto Revengeance

[viscid wind]

i know 1 person with triple dead god

[sinful flare]

we have lost it

[chilly crane]

Me booty

[cedar trench]

that's awesome

italians just do it right what can i say

[viscid wind]

ok turns out I DO have salmon unlocked

[chilly crane]

Italians still run New York with pizza

[viscid wind]

unfortunately he's just isaac but like slightly different so he fucking sucks

[quiet token]

What would the butterfly effect of kevin macleod not making music be on the internet

[sinful flare]

you have samsung unlocked?

[dapper dove]

the deep state is actually just italy

[quiet token]

Eve is worse ngl

[chilly crane]

No YouTubers

[viscid wind]

eve is dogshit

[smoky nebula]

Y'all eve isn't that bad

[quiet token]

Lazarus is more fun than eve that's saying something ngl

[sinful flare]

eve is like tainted lost if more boring

imo imo

lazarus is also like tainted lost if more boring

[chilly crane]

Saint Carl

[quiet token]

They have no redeeming qualities except the dmg up on half a heart

[placid ether]

Has anyone played Chants of Sennaar? Is it good?

[chilly crane]

Atom eve

[versed pollen]

My friend Tyler played

[smoky nebula]

It activates on one heart with eve, and once you've unlocked the razor you're given it to boost your damage even more at the cost of health

I stay within Babylon range for the entire run when playing eve

[quiet token]

Yeah but who uses razor except for babylon

Isn't it at half a heart?

[smoky nebula]

It's half a heart for every other character, one heart for eve

[viscid wind]

im just going to eden

[quiet token]

Oh I was probably thinking of t.eve

[viscid wind]

is this good

wheres eden.

[smoky nebula]

Ed(ith)en

[smoky nebula]

Where the shadow is I'd presume

[viscid wind]

why is he invisible

why is he WHAT

why is my isaac lagging so much
terrible unoptimised triple a slop

[smoky nebula]

Edmund McMillen is triple a studio‽

[sinful flare]

eden decided to not appear for work today

[viscid wind]

i accidentally picked up shard of glass but all i remember is that its terrible terrible terrible never pick up item

[sinful flare]

it deletes all your hp for no benefit

if you were curious

[viscid wind]

nuked my peak run ❤️

[quiet token]

Yeah if you take damage your red health slowly bleeds out, and if you pick a red heart up it stops

[sinful flare]

it turns you into the lost when you take damage

[chilly crane]

Bley

[viscid wind]

at least im not bethany

[chilly crane]

At least I am Jennifer Coolidge

[viscid wind]

edmund mcmelanin, you little fucker

[rapid abyss]

Ewmund mcmillin

[uneven carbon]

edmund mc poop

[full rune]

I miss train discussion

[chilly crane]

Train

[fiery burrow]

4-4 driving me nuts

[full rune]

Wait till you learn about 4x4

[chilly crane]

4+4

[fiery burrow]

remove splitshots from the game they're messing up my deadcoins

[viscid wind]

this is such a terrible list of items

[chilly crane]

ħ

[viscid wind]

me and my luck up pill against the world

we r losing

[lilac gyro]

thisi is peak tf

[viscid wind]

eye of the occult is just genuinely dogshit bad and even worse with chocolate milk

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/raider-nightreign-nightreign-raider-drinking-gavlan-gif-13033950785549680591

[viscid wind]

holy water just nukes any possibility of me possibly completing death list 99% of the time

i spent 99 cents with a return of nothing

[lilac gyro]

whyd you pick up glass shard

[viscid wind]

curse of the blind

[lilac gyro]

oh

get perfection smh

[viscid wind]

tf is that going to do

i have no rng tear effects

[lilac gyro]

get you good items

[viscid wind]

??????????????????????????????/

since when does luck affect quality

[lilac gyro]

Room drops: For calculating room drops, luck is capped between 0 and 10, with higher luck not only resulting in higher amounts of drops but also higher quality drops such as chests.
Room drop rates are otherwise identical in Normal and Hard game modes, but Hard mode removes (except in Repentance) 66%/(in Repentance) 33% of heart-type drops, replacing them with nothing.
(in Repentance) If there is more than one playable character on screen (Jacob and Esau, Co-op, using the item (in Repentance) Strawman, etc.) the room drop rate depends on the total luck the 2 characters have.

[viscid wind]

erm

yeah because items are room drops

[lilac gyro]

do you not want more chances to unscrew yourself

[viscid wind]

i already have 9 luck

[lilac gyro]

oh shit

just get 10 smhhhhhhhhh

[viscid wind]

im dogshit at the game how could you imagine i get perfection

[lilac gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[viscid wind]

ok

[lilac gyro]

see

now youre going to get good

[viscid wind]

i will die

[lilac gyro]

dont smh

[full ledge]

16 next question

[viscid wind]

4/4

[full rune]

You googled that

[lilac gyro]

you used a calc

[viscid wind]

i fucking hate eye of the occult so much

[lone crown]

Pope dead before silksong

Surely now this means game is no longer held captive

[lilac gyro]

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lone crown]

The citadel's power over TC has collapsed

[lilac gyro]

He was the one finishing up the game

[leaden delta]

slab

[viscid wind]

are you kidding me

[glossy berry]

lmfao

such is the cost </3

eye can be good sometimes but fucking hell

[spare fractal]

no way mae you play isaac?

[fiery burrow]

is sub 1:00 4-4 viable on violent

[glossy berry]

wr is like 35s

sub minute is viable yes

obviously wr strats fucking suck but its very much doable without them

[sly scaffold]

its.. him.

[pine frost]

…what video game is that

[glossy berry]

another crab's treasure

[heady iron]

that game also has a hollow knight reference

[shell yacht]

What in the Devil May Cry JoJo crossover is this

[formal karma]

Dats da name of the game

[glossy berry]

yeah!!! :D
not well lmao, but yes i play isaac

good game

[viscid wind]

the best time for irresponsible financial purchases is when I'm sleepy and not thinking straight

[opaque sigil]

so real

[lilac gyro]

works while naked is the weirdest common sense sentence ive heard

[dusky lynx]

stay ready for my arrival viltrumite
-a really strong worm

[viscid wind]

WWWHWWHAT DO YOU MEAN IT ARRIVES IN A MONTH

[spare fractal]

me too!! :D

[surreal knot]

Wtf he has good japnese https://youtu.be/kfUETZ0eDP8?si=0Zx9vikSfGQCBhI9

[unborn dome]

a single conversation with jd vance is enough to kill even the most spiritually defended of people

[lament pecan]

Do you guys think they will reinstate the trailer or just wait until they make a new one

[surreal knot]

I doubt they care about it that much

[fiery burrow]

JD Vance can harm you with a single word like the Lich

[surreal knot]

The text remains red though 😔

[viscid wind]

I'd almost thought they got makoto koji before playing the video

[glossy berry]

bad and naughty heads of state get exposed to irrelevant politicians to die

[viscid wind]

they made a new one, 3 years ago......

smhsmhsmhsmhsmh

[lament pecan]

I know

[glossy berry]

smth smth nickels if a major state figure died straight after meeting a shit politician

[dusky lynx]

will hornet be in silksong she was a really cool boss i wish to fight her again

[lament pecan]

But will they leave the steam page barren

[glossy berry]

team cherry cant afford her commission cost for the game anymore sorry 😔

is why we got the delays and all

you play as Wasp

[dusky lynx]

man i thought we were gonna be the zote

İ am ZOTE

[surreal knot]

yeah there's actually gonna be this major psychological horror section of the game where you gotta fight yourself and shit

William informed me of this in my dream

[junior pond]

I would marry hornet

[azure mist]

SILKSONG RELEASE DATE LEAKED (FRFR ON GOD)!!!!

[rain dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfUETZ0eDP8

[sharp agate]

Do yall love my breakfast???

[flat remnant]

i forgot to pray last night and pope francis died sorry y'all my bad

[sharp agate]

Forget to pray again so the world dies too

[flat remnant]

nah

[uneven carbon]

bro... what

[sharp agate]

Do yall think abt life after death? You get scurred?

[uneven carbon]

will this be in silksong?

[merry bridge]

cringe, think about how to prolong life in the future instead smh

longterm goals better then shortterm smh

[loud badge]

Ngl I think silksong might be harder than regular hk

Bigger character and no shade cloak

[glossy berry]

counterpoint of faster/arial healing, more build variety, much higher mobility

[vivid belfry]

not actually bigger character

hornet's sprite is bigger but her horns don't have a hitbox, which is where most of the height difference comes from

[loud badge]

True

[fiery burrow]

SS is intended to be around the same difficulty but I wouldn't be surprised if one game is slightly harder than the other

[loud badge]

Still think no shade cloak equivalent will make it harder either way

[vivid belfry]

shade cloak is an endgame item anyway and it's only required because fights are built around it

[dry basin]

voice of reason

[fiery burrow]

Worth noting SS has 2 known spells with iframes

[vivid belfry]

there are honestly a lot of circumstances where it's suboptimal and people just think it's strong because iframe dodging feels more reliable than positional dodging even though they have the same end

[loud badge]

I frames in general are just busted

[slender juniper]

Daily silksong news wa nihongo desuka?

[loud badge]

Like I'm sorry but add i-frames and things just get much easier

[dry basin]

positionsl dodging usually is better definitely

and doesnt have the chance of screwing you over with where you end up

[viscid wind]

silksong already has that in forms of parries from the reveal trailer

but 6 years is a lot of years so it likely changes

[topaz totem]

I had a dream about Silksong and a movement type thats gonna be in it. You can use your pin to grab onto a floating platform and swing around it

[fiery burrow]

Shade cloak is safer but ddark/pogoing usually is more advantageous

[loud badge]

Parries huh

[vivid belfry]

it bugs the shit out of me that we don't know the name of that skill

because hollow knight's style of parries are also in silksong

[viscid wind]

countersilksong

[vivid belfry]

and they're 2 very different things

[loud badge]

A parry skill huh

[dry basin]

i like parries

[vivid belfry]

I call it riposte because it puts emphasis on the fact that there's a counterattack

[loud badge]

Im soso about parries

[dry basin]

a parry that isnt hollow knight parries? sign me up

[vivid belfry]

HK parries feel more like a cinematic flourish than an actual mechanic

[fiery burrow]

Deviator

[dry basin]

peak mentioned

[marsh ibex]

stand ready for my arrival

[viscid wind]

it's kinda a hollow knight parry because it looked like the one from hornet 2

[fiery burrow]

The goat

[tawdry valley]

HK parries are borderline unimplemented yeah

[viscid wind]

why did jojoker change

[dry basin]

why do we wait for silksong when peak is already out

[heady iron]

they're called clash tink in the code

[dry basin]

the deviator is waiting for us

[heady iron]

good job wilbo

[loud badge]

Nin sols has parries ig

[fiery burrow]

power clashes in Silksong

[loud badge]

Not interested tho

[dry basin]

power clashes sound better than clash tinks

[viscid wind]

every day we changin holy shit

[tawdry valley]

Does Hk ever even call them parries

[fiery burrow]

AFAIK HK never mentions them

[tawdry valley]

What if they’re just called clashes in game files and this our own fault

[dry basin]

i call them beyond mid

but idk what tc calls them

[vivid belfry]

your sword hits the enemy's sword and it prevents you from taking damage, it's a parry

it's just bad

[dry basin]

it is bad

they're so weird too, there's like four different parries

perfect parries where it makes a SLIGHTLY higher pitch tink, normal parries where you get the slight invincibility and hitting the boss

fake parries where the game gives you the tink but you get hit anyway

tc assholes

and then backwards parries because the game code is weird, you can parry attacks facing away from the attack

[heady iron]

I should make a sekiro mod for hollow knight

[shell stream]

grover does thorns of agony count as a riposte

[fiery burrow]

Power guard

[dry basin]

do people genuinely use thorns of agony

[opaque sigil]

probably

[shell stream]

i got it 0 cost on a rando run and Im still not using it lmao

[dry basin]

correct response

[opaque sigil]

you shouldn't it's worse than nothing

[formal marsh]

BASED

[vivid belfry]

no because it's in response to taking damage and not preventing it

[formal marsh]

i hate thorns ever since i died because of it on steel soul

[shell stream]

I see

consistent internal logic

[vivid belfry]

it isn't necessarily worse than nothing but it is competitive with nothing

[deft tide]

how does thorns cause you to die?

[opaque sigil]

freezes you in place

[glossy berry]

you lose control while in the thorns animation

[shell stream]

doesnt it also waste your iframes

[dapper dove]

yeah thorns is trash don't use it

[glossy berry]

its one of those charms that are an actual downgrade

[deft tide]

damn

[shell stream]

plus doesnt give any soul, like damageboosting with nail would

[opaque sigil]

get hit > get stuck in a dangerous spot and can't use your iframes to escape > iframes run out you get hit again

[shell stream]

and does less damage than just hitting things with nail (lmao)

[deft tide]

i just never used it

[dapper dove]

for some reason i suck at pv without steady body its like the only boss on which this charm actually makes a difference for me

[deft tide]

shaman stone best charm

[dry basin]

truly asesome charm

[real river]

the pope died, idk why i got it over my yt feed.

[dry basin]

steady body my goat

[opaque sigil]

qs

[deft tide]

hr never got to play silksong

[dry basin]

qs and unbreakable strength

[real river]

and gta 6

[dapper dove]

shaman stone overpowered tbh

makes most of the bosses trivial

[glossy berry]

quick slash clears i think

[shell stream]

nmg is probably the strongest charm all around costwise

but its a bit awkward to optimise

[glossy berry]

though its close between it, shamans and strength i think

[loud badge]

Shamon stone+stalwart+twister=rip grimm

[glossy berry]

unequivocal Musts in any competent build

[opaque sigil]

QS is both an incredibly potent damage increase and a huge soul gen increase

[deft tide]

true

[dapper dove]

qs + strength is non negotiable

[austere flame]

actually Quick Slash is the best charm

[loud badge]

Sucks that strength doesn't affect nail arts

[glossy berry]

quick slash is an effective ~40% damage increase with turnarounds

which is insane

[fiery burrow]

No one does turnarounds

[glossy berry]

true

[fiery burrow]

Basically only for TAS

I miss rose

[coarse leaf]

Not really but yeah no one does them in normal play

[opaque sigil]

Isn’t the point of turnarounds resetting the attack timer or something

[coarse leaf]

Cancelling the nail swing Animation iirc

[opaque sigil]

I don’t think you need that to get the 40% boost from qs

[glossy berry]

qs sets the duration of your attack to 0.28 seconds, and the cooldown between attacks to 0.25s
if you cancel the attack animation you can swing faster

[coarse leaf]

Saves you like 4 milliseconds or whatever yeah

[glossy berry]

its still a 35% damage increase on average if youre consistently landing hits

[lucid holly]

Chat this is so sad pope Francis never got to play Silksong

[glossy berry]

not to mention the soul as well

[opaque sigil]

also stagger buildup is faster

[dapper dove]

what you realise when watching a tas is that those milliseconds add up

[coarse leaf]

The numbers are cringe tho i just do em because theyre more fun input wise

[loud badge]

If you're running quick slash might as well run steady body

[glossy berry]

if you're saving 3 miliseconds every single time you swing your nail in a combat-based tas that adds up insanely fast yeah

[glossy berry]

i would if not for shamans + qs + strength + spell twister

[shell stream]

.03s is 30ms not 3

[glossy berry]

true

[loud badge]

?

[opaque sigil]

Sbody isn’t that important

[loud badge]

Ah ok

[dapper dove]

qs + strength + shaman + sbody + dream wielder is foolproof for me

i literally never run out of soul

[remote ibex]

Silence foul bammo

[marsh ibex]

sbody’s just extra sauce

[subtle flint]

sbody is wack

[loud badge]

Thats what I'm running rn😂

[opaque sigil]

You end up with two notches to do whatever with, sbody is a reasonable candidate for one of them but it’s not head and shoulders above other things like shaman stone, qs, and strength are

[marsh ibex]

It’s a dps increase but only if you’re like, good

[vivid belfry]

I only ever use steady body for radiant absrad

[subtle flint]

swapping to sbody after not using it for all my playtime is weird

[remote ibex]

Wtf I forgot you need to be good to hold forward and spam attack

[dapper dove]

it's really good for pv from my experience

[marsh ibex]

yeah you do actually

[vivid belfry]

this is true but the real problem is that the opposite is true

[loud badge]

Steady body is nice for any fight that requires jumping

[heady iron]

steady body users when they discover how to evade taxes at untaxed.xyz

[remote ibex]

I got used to it after like half an hour

[marsh ibex]

also don’t ping me please I’m balding

[opaque sigil]

Sbody/dwielder is fine, spell twister is fine, etc

[remote ibex]

Why not

[marsh ibex]

you know who else is fine

[marsh ibex]

I don’t like it it scares me seeing yellow

Least favorite color

[remote ibex]

Boo

[vivid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bald-gif-26454753

[marsh ibex]

wtf

[dapper dove]

i switch to spell twister for absrad because sbody is useless in that case

[vivid belfry]

absolutely not true

[remote ibex]

Hmmmmmm surely

[loud badge]

At like 106 completion
What am I missing

[dapper dove]

you can just upslash on plats

[remote ibex]

Tbh steady body isn't that good for absrad if youre doing the jump and 2 upslash strat

[vivid belfry]

yeah, assuming you aren't dodging an attack

[remote ibex]

But like just be better and don't do that

[uneven carbon]

grim, pantheon, mask shards, vessel fragments, charms, 2400 essence

[glossy berry]

those last two notches in builds are so insanely subjective ive seen so many charms get used there in place of twister/sbody/whatever

theyre far less important naturally

[vivid belfry]

steady body makes dodging and attacking simultaneously way more reliable against abs rad

[loud badge]

Pantheon is the only thing in missing ig

[surreal knot]

Check achievements

[uneven carbon]

pantheon I think is 5 percent total so you're missing something else, have you done nightmare king grim?

[dapper dove]

i wonder what would change if absrad had contact damage

[opaque sigil]

Yes it’s the only place the wonky charm balance leaves for player expression

[loud badge]

Ah nah

[remote ibex]

The fight would suck ass

[uneven carbon]

that plus the pantheons is what you need then

[fiery burrow]

steady body..

[heady iron]

society if the max notch count was 12

[remote ibex]

And be way less fun

[glossy berry]

and even then its still within the confines of working well with qs/strength lmao
tragic tbh

[dapper dove]

as if it doesn't already

[shell stream]

pantheons are 4% no?

since p5 isnt a percentage point

[coarse leaf]

Yes, godtuner is 1 percent aswell

[uneven carbon]

I think the godseeker item counts as a percentage

[shell stream]

ah til

[glossy berry]

https://hollowknightchecklist.com/

[uneven carbon]

so its the 4 pantheons and the item

[remote ibex]

It doesn't smh

[loud badge]

Item?

[remote ibex]

Nice music

[fiery burrow]

erm, WRONG

[loud badge]

I forgot how to get it

[uneven carbon]

unlocking godhome gives you the godseeker item

[loud badge]

Alr

[fiery burrow]

what music is playing

[opaque sigil]

It’s the godtuner

[loud badge]

Im on a replay so forgot how to get it

[glossy berry]

opening the godseeker cacoon drops the godtuner item, which in turn lets you open pantheons

[fiery burrow]

Godtuner is basically optional

[uneven carbon]

pretty sure it is a percent for completion

[fiery burrow]

That's also its only use If it was removed we could have a nice looking 111%

[sage glade]

day 1 of not betatesting silksong

[marsh ibex]

Godtuner isn’t required for pantheons

[uneven carbon]

oh thats what you mean yeah

i guess because its a key item

[glossy berry]

is it not??? thats fucked actually

why is it even there then is it just qol

[dapper dove]

don't you need it to unlock p4 or 5

[uneven carbon]

I think its lore reason

[marsh ibex]

No

[marsh ibex]

Even in the lore its useless

[shell stream]

damn thats rough, whyd you get kicked off the testing team

[marsh ibex]

Godseeker does all the work

[glossy berry]

godseeker lore is mid who cares

its also not necessary in lore either

[uneven carbon]

idk dude

star is right tho a 111% would look so much better

[glossy berry]

you're allowed to keep the godtuner because the godseeker doesnt need it anymore; "ascended beyond it"

[uneven carbon]

god tuner should just be an item that lets you tp to the godseeker

so you dont have to set up a dreamgate

[marsh ibex]

that would make it useful

[fiery burrow]

shrue..

[marsh ibex]

We can’t have that

[opaque sigil]

not in godmaster

[marsh ibex]

for being qol godhome has a lot of lacking areas for qol

[shell stream]

benchwarp my beloved

[uneven carbon]

youll never catch me benchwarping im walking that shit

[glossy berry]

no godmaster isnt allowed to have qol wdym, you should have to forfeit your ability to use dreamgate like team cherry intended or make the walk yourself

[remote ibex]

She doesn't even have a bench next to her

[loud badge]

Thank god patheon 5 isn't needed for 112

[glossy berry]

theres benches in godhome

[shell stream]

godhome itself has the bench ye

[uneven carbon]

theres still a steam achievement for it tho

[remote ibex]

So you gotta walk outta godhome to talk to her smh

[uneven carbon]

so its basically required for a full completion of the game

[dapper dove]

idk why godseeker mode is locked behind p3

[uneven carbon]

😭

[remote ibex]

Even when cheating the game is mean

[opaque sigil]

Probably because 4 is a spike

[loud badge]

🚮

[marsh ibex]

Even then no vanilla bindings in hall of gods fights and honestly they should’ve randomly added vanilla rad and thk to the hall of gods too

[dapper dove]

should be unlocked after p1 or something since you start from scratch anyways

[glossy berry]

pantheon 4 is a massive spike in difficulty compared to the earlier ones (in theory)

first three dont have a huge jump

[marsh ibex]

they should make it unlock after p5 for lore purposes

[loud badge]

They should remove all check points in path of pain for lore purposes

[marsh ibex]

oh yeah for some reason you can’t switch void heart/kingsoul or melody/child either

[glossy berry]

god tamer is automatically ascended on purpose to ensure that people can do it before colo 3

[trim estuary]

I agree with this one actually

[subtle flint]

kingsoul actually does other stuff right

[loud badge]

[uneven carbon]

always found that annoying, I have to do another playthrough just to get the base ending

[marsh ibex]

It gives you a drip feed of infinite soul

void heart for all intents and purposes is hype moments and aura

[uneven carbon]

that on top of just not being able to use a charm (even if its not that good)

[glossy berry]

gives you 4 soul every 2 seconds

which is just over a third of a nail hit

the charm does kinda exist exclusively for story tbh

[opaque sigil]

given that you have to destroy it to progress it would kinda suck if it was actually useful

[glossy berry]

dont really know why they gave it a functionality at all

aside from birthplace

[fiery burrow]

Well Kingsoul is pretty useful for the tougher platforming challenges like Queen's Gardens and White Palace

[marsh ibex]

So true

[marsh ibex]

I mean canonically wl gives us the white fragment to scrap with thk

[shell stream]

yes useful for white palace

[marsh ibex]

Also it buffs my glorious pale king

[shell stream]

mmhm

hey whats kingsoul locked behind again, I forgot

[fiery burrow]

You only half got the joke

Kingsoul is locked behind Queen's Gardens too

[shell stream]

im aware

[uneven carbon]

im so close

just need to lock in on pure vessel

[opaque sigil]

use hall of gods if you aren't already

[open narwhal]

gecb

[formal marsh]

good luck 🫡

remember to shade dash only when you must

[rustic ore]

And don't shade dash if you don't need to

[uneven carbon]

what ive been doing

[opaque sigil]

for pv you also want to minimize your airtime

[uneven carbon]

im getting close

[opaque sigil]

if you're off the ground too long that's when it does its jump iirc

[coarse leaf]

Indeed

[dapper dove]

yeah use ddark liberally

[unborn dome]

pv is easy if you parry

[subtle flint]

dont use spells.

[coarse leaf]

Although you can still be in the air quite a bit, dont feel the need to play like, without jumping all of a sudden

Do use spells

[uneven carbon]

is this a good spell/nail balancew

[unborn dome]

dd is great for like every boss, including pv
shade soul is also really good for range

[coarse leaf]

PV healing Windows are quite sparse if youre not using advanced strats, you dont need that much soul

[dapper dove]

you won't have time to heal outside of staggers so that extra soul can translate to extra iframes and damage

[unborn dome]

drop spell twister and mop, get quick slash and steady body

[subtle flint]

be chad, dont use spells

[uneven carbon]

I did nail only for like every other boss

[coarse leaf]

You dont need steady body but yes you can think about dropping mop for qs

[ember violet]

I would replace mark of pride with longnail and spell twister with quickslash

[coarse leaf]

Or replace strength with qs if you dont want to replace MoP, the extra soul gain is better

[unborn dome]

you shouldn’t need to heal

[lone crown]

Longnail is a shitty charm

[unborn dome]

steady body is like a top 3 charm

[coarse leaf]

Thats silly

Press up on PV

[tidal ruin]

I've never used spells against pv much anyways

[coarse leaf]

You get no benefit out of it for pv if you arent doing ridiculous strats

[ember violet]

longnail is good

[unborn dome]

longnail sucks

[opaque sigil]

longnail is filler but it's ok filler

[lone crown]

Two notches for barely anything, Ive only used it in kaizo situations (mods) lmfao

Better notches spent elsewhere

[ember violet]

you wont always have 3 nothes for MOP

[dapper dove]

you can always overcharm if you're going for radiant

[sinful flare]

i think longnail is genuinely useless always

[lone crown]

I run MoP Qslash Strength any single-notch charm and SStone (overcharmed)

[sinful flare]

it doesnt look like it makes a big difference

[sinful flare]

if youre gonna overcharm why not soul eater

[coarse leaf]

You can pull of some cool speedrun stuff with it but otherwise it just does nothinh

[unborn dome]

spell twister and fury are like the only good 2 notch

[lone crown]

So you want me to sacrifice any of the charms I have said for soul eater? thats silly

[sinful flare]

my go to is Qslash Strength SStone (NM'sGlory / DCatcher) SoulEater

[coarse leaf]

The extra MoP range is very very helpful for things like r5

[lone crown]

High cost doesnt necessarily mean good

[sinful flare]

i would sacrifice mop

[lone crown]

Honestly valid

[coarse leaf]

It is pretty good in a OC build

[dapper dove]

don't rely too much on mop tbh it really fucks up your playstyle without it

[unborn dome]

and even then in most situations it’s better to just use steady body instead if you’re not already and just take the loss with 1 open slot

[coarse leaf]

It p much always boils down to eater or MoP in things like r5 lol

Not sure what my brain was doing there

[sinful flare]

as the saying goes, its better to eat things than mop things

[coarse leaf]

[coarse leaf]

Just put something else in the 1 notch lol

Dwielder nmg gsong are all fine

[unborn dome]

compass 😛

[uneven carbon]

might be the best charm build ever

idk

[coarse leaf]

Also fury is terrible in anything that isnt speedrunning iirc

[lament sorrel]

god i can't wait to collect new charms in ss

[subtle flint]

🤨

[unborn dome]

fury is good if you know how to not get hit

[subtle flint]

ever tried being good?

[coarse leaf]

No its still bad

The risk reward is just bad

Youre better off not using fury even as a top player

Ok teano can maybe get away with it

[unborn dome]

bigger damage increase than strength
and they stack

[coarse leaf]

Im aware

[opaque sigil]

if you're consistent enough to nullify the drawback it's good but for 99% of people it's not

[coarse leaf]

But thats also just because theyre the best hk player in the World lmao

[subtle flint]

so ur saying if ur good its good

case closed checkmate liberal

[fiery burrow]

no one uses fury

[coarse leaf]

No if your good its still bsd

Teano might just be so incredibly good compared to everyone else that the risk reward is somehow actually almost worth it because he just never gets hit

[subtle flint]

quite literally just skill issue

[uneven carbon]

beat pure vessel

[coarse leaf]

And like lifeblood, its cool if you get lifeblood aswell, like in p5 ( even so its still harder then non fury p5 )

[uneven carbon]

quick focus is such a carry

[subtle flint]

ez

[uneven carbon]

the move where he does the aoe is a free 2 mask heal with quick focus

now its time to do it in p4

[unborn dome]

beat on ascended 3 times first

[uneven carbon]

beautiful HoG

[coarse leaf]

This, nerves can get to you real quickly

[fiery burrow]

NOTEP

This ain't windows search wtf

[coarse leaf]

[uneven carbon]

does p5 use attuned or ascended

[tawdry valley]

Uses attuned bosses, but in ascended arenas

[uneven carbon]

ok good

[tawdry valley]

So you’ll fight a normal damage, normal hp boss, but if the ascended variant has an arena change, you’ll face off that boss with a funky arena

[uneven carbon]

4 masks per hit on pv would be cancer

alr

[tawdry valley]

This realistically only matters for dream warriors

[uneven carbon]

yeah

markoth

[rustic ore]

well aint THAT some horseshit

YT try not to make annoying, scummy decisions challenge

[opaque sigil]

is it catching up to the arms race

[unborn dome]

the humble collector:

[fiery burrow]

uBlock always prevails

Their devs get a free pass into heaven

[dapper dove]

how do people survive without adblocker

[idle scaffold]

I just wait

[rustic ore]

LMAO

[unborn dome]

don’t forget sponsorblock too!

[idle scaffold]

I take it as helping the youtuber XD

[fiery burrow]

oh ew chrome

[rustic ore]

"ummmmm they block adsssss which doesnt really align with our idealllls soooooo"

[fiery burrow]

[rustic ore]

im gonna download it anyway fuck them

[dapper dove]

the only extensions i have are ad and tracker blockers

[unborn dome]

Firefox uses more ram than chrome

[dapper dove]

ram is meant to be used

[opaque sigil]

see your issue is being on chrome

[supple widget]

Don't use Chrome

[dapper dove]

but i dislike firefox because of the dogshit ui

[normal token]

Firefox

[rustic ore]

im on opera rn which isnt better
i also have firefox but i dont use it much

[normal token]

Or something else that allows it

[rustic ore]

Sengoku saved that mf's life btw

Just a reminder

[fiery burrow]

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[subtle flint]

firefox is goated

[lament lotus]

his prounounciation isnt actually that bad

[fiery burrow]

heartwarming to see DSN branching out to new audiences

[warped rock]

hi oicid

[warped rock]

hi rpeng

[lament lotus]

hi twheat

[lament lotus]

i wonder if hes going to do one for everyt major language

he should do one in english

[heavy magnet]

he needs to go back and redub older episodes for other languages

there's a lot of them, but at least most of them aren't that long

[real river]

i use adblocker all the time, i have never encountered this

i havent seen ad on yt in 4 years

[uneven carbon]

I still refuse to download pie

id rather watch their shitty ads

I cant lie tho they have pretty good marketing

its tempting

[full ledge]

I use edge

[sinful flare]

what

!!!!!

[warped rock]

hi kaan

[sinful flare]

hi what

[trim estuary]

Kaan

[sinful flare]

hi ip

turi ip ip turi ip

[trim estuary]

Kaan

[sinful flare]

ip

[hearty stream]

Ip ip tuurip 💔

Ss tmr

[sinful flare]

ip ip turip

[unborn dome]

tralalero tralala

[remote ibex]

They've lost their minds

[fallow tusk]

Yeah

[uneven carbon]

u were right

I did pantheon after I beat him 3 times in a row

and I smoked him bro

ty

[lone crown]

The power of hall of gods

[sinful flare]

ip iiiip turiiip iiip

[covert cobalt]

heres the solution: get a fork of ff

[rustic ore]

Gonna do somethin funny, chat

[covert cobalt]

k

[rustic ore]

For the way I want them to hold smth I had to turn the left hand there the other way around, thats why the bones cross like that

[sage glade]

straight up not true from my decade of using it. i'd wager it just varies machine to machine

[carmine island]

What the hell is your problem

[carmine island]

I think it looks great ennea

[sage glade]

it's just k, why overthink it

[covert cobalt]

primal asphids

[sinful flare]

tpypr

yopyoyoyooyyp]appyotoyota

[carmine island]

Wrong reply

[carmine island]

Was meant for this

[covert cobalt]

no but it makes perfect sense

[carmine island]

I’m just bad at everything

[sinful flare]

:3

[coral quartz]

can we get DSN in random languages now, the japanese one was refreshing

[sinful flare]

i could make turkish dsn

[carmine island]

Does it?

[covert cobalt]

yes

[carmine island]

Alright

[carmine island]

*should

[chilly crane]

giant one worm

[covert cobalt]

i read this as one giant worm

[sage glade]

kaaanakansksnsjanaknkaknakanankaa

[sage glade]

no we're just getting
dssn 🤢 🤮
dssn, Japan 😇 🆙

[sinful flare]

dssn, Chinese 🆙 🪙

[sage glade]

💹

[sinful flare]

💹

since When is this an emoji

[sage glade]

forever

[opaque sigil]

dsn in klingon

[warped rock]

💹 most important emoji

[full rune]

我是DSSN

[formal marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfUETZ0eDP8

[rustic ore]

pin that or ban

[formal marsh]

im an idiot you guys were just talking about it of course youve seen it

[onyx wadi]

My girlfriend is playing hollow knight

[warped rock]

plenty of fish in the sea

[rustic ore]

something something no girlfriend hk discord something something

[carmine island]

I’m sorry for your loss

[heady iron]

We should get dssn in Australian

[full rune]

olllroight ya fahks, deys no nyews fo t'day

[fiery burrow]

Muffin I got all of act 1 sub 1:00

[steady sage]

yu wont sowm o' that Dowly Silksong News, lad? :3

[sinful flare]

entirety of act 1 under 1 minute WHAT

[unborn dome]

you can test it yourself now
it definitely does

[steady sage]

i use Librewolf :3

[fiery burrow]

As in under one hour duh

[sinful flare]

oh

[fiery burrow]

Nah I mean individually

[sinful flare]

sick

[fiery burrow]

barely

[chilly crane]

pp

[carmine island]

Awesome!!!

[carmine island]

Does that best pengs time?

[fiery burrow]

Doubt it

[warped rock]

we got the same time holy crap

[fiery burrow]

gg

[rustic ore]

he didnt pin it, therefore he must ban himself

[junior citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-conquest-conquest-hello-chat-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-invincible-hello-chat-gif-13038544277166512740

[full rune]

闭嘴

[junior citrus]

hello

[oblique musk]

For a second I didn't realize you had the original panel on low opacity as a reference and thought I had so much fucking brainrot I could create entire jjk panels in my head.

[carmine island]

Do you not have him friended?

Damn didn’t know you hated him…

[steady sage]

i hate everyone here :3

[carmine island]

Neatwheat is such a good ultrakill play

[heady iron]

我…是 Steve

[steady sage]

i am the biggest hater here :3

[carmine island]

Randy is a fuckinh real one

[oblique musk]

Piss rank

[warped rock]

仅英语

[covert cobalt]

永远不会放弃你

[fiery burrow]

CRUSHED

[warped rock]

bilingualism is a curse

[covert cobalt]

what is that

[oblique musk]

It's when you like both boys and girls I think

[warped rock]

you beat me to it

[covert cobalt]

no thats bisexual or smth

[warped rock]

No it's bilingual

[carmine island]

NOOOO

[warped rock]

Bisexual is when you speak 2 different languages

[steady sage]

uh arkcturally, bilingual means knowing multiple languages :3

[rustic ore]

@carmine island hey bestie hop on clamty

[rustic ore]

thats fucking binomial

[warped rock]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[oblique musk]

Who is that guy on the left?

[covert cobalt]

it says he is "not drake"

[warped rock]

Rivers cuomo

[steady sage]

not drake :3

[oblique musk]

From Weezer?

[rapid abyss]

Yall dont gotta treat bro like voldemort 😭

[oblique musk]

Funny as hell tho

[rapid abyss]

Honestly didnt even realize the original gif had drake

What context did he appear in it

[rustic ore]

sure i cna

[rapid abyss]

Sure i cna

[sinful flare]

Sure i ena

[oblique musk]

According to this source, it comes from a 2020 music video.

srue i acn

[rustic ore]

bestie hop on terraria

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-18087346502610687463

[rustic ore]

actually wait its like 9 am for you isnt it

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-luv-gif-23061704

hes so me tbh

[rapid abyss]

Pushing 40 doin allat

[rustic ore]

[rapid abyss]

Its crazy how drake was like max pr going into 2024

[coarse leaf]

lowk fantano was right about kendrick

[rapid abyss]

I mean i guess?

Not that crazy to say

Pretty common opinion

[coarse leaf]

that mf a bum ass hypocrite

[rapid abyss]

😭 alr gngg

[coarse leaf]

he genuinely is tho

[rapid abyss]

You realize fantano loves kendrick?

[coarse leaf]

i cant stand Kendrick anymore

[oblique musk]

What did Anthony Fantano say about Kendrick?

[coarse leaf]

i meant right about how hypocritical he is after his carti collab

[coarse leaf]

him taking the moral high ground over drake and then immediately hopping on a track with an abuser is lame and hypocritical

[topaz totem]

Cornifer is a mapmaker in Silksong

[rapid abyss]

So like you think travis and weeknd also support all carti does?

Hes collabed with so many artists hes one of the biggest in the industry

[coarse leaf]

the point is how much kendrick highlights these issues in his music

[heady iron]

Me when T-Weasel features Pop Steam on his latest diss track calling out Lil Dabbo

[coarse leaf]

and then doesnt care when money is involved

literally a sellout

definition of virtue signalling

[rapid abyss]

Kendrick has more than enough money brochacho

[rustic ore]

wait do you mean Carti or Cardi

[coarse leaf]

how does that affect what i said

that arguably makes it worse

[rapid abyss]

You hella stupid

These drake fans ikiab

[coarse leaf]

i dont like drake either dawg

hit me with that 160iq moral analysis

[carmine island]

I can’t!!!

[rapid abyss]

Drops this and immediately starts talking about kendrick who no one was talking about

[carmine island]

Not right now

[coarse leaf]

i posted a drake gif

i must be his biggest fan 🤔

[oblique musk]

Two drake gifs. This is revisionism.

[rapid abyss]

Not even engaging with ts

[coarse leaf]

you mfs confabulating 🤦‍♂️

[steady sage]

how about everyone drops the arguing and talk about smth else :3

i know being civil doesn't exist here, but let's all try it :3

[oblique musk]

Randy if nobody argued this chat would be long dead. Besides, it's inherent to human nature to argue over pointless shit.

[rapid abyss]

Ya

“Lets all get along” get a load of this guy headass

[full rune]

no

[coarse leaf]

lets get even more inflammatory

[steady sage]

okie, silly dude :3

here's something to argue about :3
GIF is pronounced JIF :3

[rapid abyss]

Sybau icl ts kevin

[oblique musk]

Actually, it's pronounced 'yiff'.

[rapid abyss]

I was reading that

[topaz totem]

[rapid abyss]

Oh!

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-gif-27609644

[steady sage]

who's Kevin? :3

[rapid abyss]

Imagine not keeping up with internet slang

[oblique musk]

I was tabbed out of discord and saw the notification say "...-low-tier-god-..." and thought this gif was going to be something completely different

[full rune]

i didnt delete it

[coarse leaf]

ts so james

[oblique musk]

Powdered is lurking fr

[shell yacht]

I'm in lore rn actually

[topaz totem]

Mod abuse

[shell yacht]

I didn't delete whatever y'all were talking about

[topaz totem]

||jk||

[steady sage]

i'm no slanger, silly dude :3

[rapid abyss]

You dont have ebk clearly

Yall hitting that sully shuffle?

[steady sage]

i prefer sitting down :3

[fiery burrow]

Magnamalo is the best monster

[elder adder]

Hey do you know where Omni man is

[shell yacht]

In fortnite

Breaking it down

[elder adder]

https://tenor.com/view/immortal-where-is-omni-man-where-is-he-invincible-gif-17913376818474440095

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-breaking-it-down-omni-man-breaking-it-down-let-me-break-down-omni-man-gif-13756552621007848541

[fiery burrow]

Poking the bear

[rapid abyss]

Ismt sabrina caprenter in fort or not yet

[shell yacht]

Star saying that with a monster hunter movie profile picture is really funny

[oblique musk]

Sorry, what does this mean? I know the expression, but can't see how it applies here.

[fiery burrow]

I'm excluding Green Rathalos obviously

[fiery burrow]

Powdered told this guy to quit posting that gif

just a joke though

[rapid abyss]

Pokijg the bear is like

Imagine take a stick to sleeping besr and poking it

Its like gurting

[carmine island]

@rustic ore

[fiery burrow]

I will say the new death screen is cool but I think it could be a bit more subtle about the machines' true nature

[shell yacht]

So you're actually just a dude on bath salts and crack cocaine with a shotgun and a knife

[fiery burrow]

on bath salts?

... do people use those as drugs?

[shell yacht]

Oh God have you never heard about that

Don't look it up

[carmine island]

Is that fuckinh hotlind Miami reference???

[shell yacht]

I guess that was right before y'all existed

I've never played hotline in Miami so no

[fiery burrow]

That's why I feel pure zen with Epsom salts fr

[rapid abyss]

Ya its like gurting

[coarse leaf]

its a colloquial term for another thing they arent actually bath salts

[fiery burrow]

lame

[rapid abyss]

What even are real bath salts

[fiery burrow]

you oughta try em

[formal karma]

Muscle relaxing salts

Soothing

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-agents-know-dont-gif-18536773

[sinful flare]

if you really wanna eat your bath you can use bath salts

i get that urge often but my bath often tastes like a nothing burger

[rapid abyss]

I ought to not

Inheard drugs are bad

[fiery burrow]

they aren't drugs 😭

[coarse leaf]

know what

[formal karma]

Well they're nor drugs

[carmine island]

Tbh the true nature of machines is not subtle at all if you looked into it deeper the new death screen just spells it out for you

[fiery burrow]

To be honest I only noticed it in violence

I should use mother of me as an exclamation

[carmine island]

A big part of violence is the machine lore tbf

[fiery burrow]

That's why its peak

[carmine island]

[fiery burrow]

Violence does not hold punches

[rapid abyss]

No shit

[fiery burrow]

[rapid abyss]

An intangible concept cant “hold” anything

[loud badge]

Silksong delayed to 2026

[fiery burrow]

Also the revamp just generally made the whole game's tone darker imo

[carmine island]

Literally since all three of the new basic enemies can punch you lol

[carmine island]

Well technically mannequins swipe at you but it’s close enough

[fiery burrow]

Everything is far more decrepit, Heresy's punishment, etc

[rapid abyss]

Ohio delayed to arkansas

[rapid abyss]

Gurt; sybau

[carmine island]

Hakita on his way to make all the wall jump walls a broken ladder or staircase

[fiery burrow]

[willow sinew]

Always have been.

[normal token]

https://x.com/everydruidwaswr/status/1914468936105779668 HE'S BACKKKK

little bomey (@everydruidwaswr) on X

upside-down nest

X · Apr 21, 2025, 11:58 PM

[carmine island]

We need to make a tier list of that

[normal token]

@glossy berry special new wilbo tweet

[glossy berry]

YEAHHHH BABY

[willow sinew]

Oh we're talking about in ultrakill? There too, I guess

[fiery burrow]

When is hakita removing the wrath sinner effect though...

[shell yacht]

What are you a drug dog you never pop up in here

[fiery burrow]

This is the only visual thing in the game that bugs me tbh

[willow sinew]

Wait, I'm in #sk-discussion? How the hell did that happen

[glossy berry]

its 1am but im dragging myself out the dirt to look at this shit

thank you man

[fiery burrow]

Shoo back to #off-topic

[willow sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/tobi-kadachi-tobi-kadachi-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-world-gif-4641688197686007231

[rapid abyss]

STAY

[oblique musk]

There is a bird known as the Weaver Bird that makes upside-down nests. Weavers are in Silksong. That is all I will say.

[rustic ore]

This means one of two things.
One: V1 fulla meat
Two: Hakita has no idea what he's wrought

[fiery burrow]

what the flip

[brittle garnet]

they're more like... all-around, than upside down

tbh

[fiery burrow]

holy flip I learned a new bird species

[oblique musk]

From Wikipedia:
"Most species weave nests that have narrow entrances, facing downward."

[fiery burrow]

No one cares if you dislike this chat just don't talk in here

[brittle garnet]

yea but that's just the entrance, it loops back around to a chamber with a floor

[rustic ore]

Don't make me tap the sign

[brittle garnet]

then come back where there is stuff about silksong

[oblique musk]

It hangs from the branch rather than resting on it as do most bird nests.

[brittle garnet]

yeah

yeah who cares

[rustic ore]

Someone put up the off topic command

[fiery burrow]

What do you have to say for yourself toast

[brittle garnet]

if you don't see stuff about silksong there just isn't any

[oblique musk]

The confusing part is, while you can clearly extrapolate a reference to Silksong from the tweet, there is nothing else to conceivably point to a release date.

[rustic ore]

When there's silksong news

[brittle garnet]

it happens all the time

[normal token]

Start a SS topic that could be interesting and rules say to follow suit to that

[fiery burrow]

because we already have april 29th

[glossy berry]

?tag info offtopic

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[oblique musk]

DAMN RIGHT WE DO!!!

[normal token]

We've gone through crests over the past few days etc

[shell yacht]

We have been saying this for like 4 years if you want to see a silksong conversation start one

[rustic ore]

Thats my grandmas birthday

[shell yacht]

They engage in the topic for this channel when it arises all the time

[oblique musk]

I think we should pull out tools discussion for the 875th time.

[brittle garnet]

???

[fiery burrow]

Y'all better obey what we say fr

[rustic ore]

[normal token]

Let's talk about tools

[brittle garnet]

something something glass houses

[carmine island]

Silksong ok enneas grandmas birthday!!!

Get it for her as a birthday gift

[rustic ore]

Aye aye

[normal token]

I think Mr Mushroom will appear

[carmine island]

Didnt know this was mid discussion

[fiery burrow]

Hornet references her stingshards if that counts

[normal token]

Other than I really do not expect much, in the edge magazine they said that they want SS to be as accessible as possible

[glossy berry]

probably not much at all
for lore and accessibility

[oblique musk]

Tammo has 114,000+ messages in this channel. Star has 76,000+. The channel as a whole has over 8.5 MILLION messages. Both of them together contribute to less than 3% of messages in this channel. In no world can that be defined as a monopoly.

[brittle garnet]

i think obviously anything related to Hornet's past will be littered with HK callbacks

[fiery burrow]

You are beneath me

[normal token]

Maybe some vessel corpse since we know they travelled to other kingdoms as a little easter egg

[brittle garnet]

and Hornet's past WILL be explored

[glossy berry]

we'll get vague mentions of Past Strength and the place she was at before but overt mention isn't likely

[oblique musk]

I touch too much grass

[brittle garnet]

I think overt mention is very likely, but probably won't be too relevant to current events

[shell yacht]

I hope we get some flashbacks but nothing deep diving into unrelated things

[carmine island]

There will be a house of leaves reference in Silksong

[glossy berry]

the game is meant to be playable without having completed hollow knight
its not a sequel narratively, just chronologically

[brittle garnet]

yeah that does not disprove my message

[marsh ibex]

ou my bones

[glossy berry]

PLEASE
when are they putting Zampanò there

[normal token]

iirc we've already kinda see this
Hornet's inventory had a pouch with the hallownest seal

[glossy berry]

next trailer fr

[oblique musk]

Hornet: "What is this? A house of some kind?"

[carmine island]

Sherma Z. Danielewski

[brittle garnet]

that just means that knowledge from Hollow Knight will not be required to understand the story, but that still leaves a bunch of space for callbacks, especially since through Hornet, Hallownest is kinda relevant, and they can just repeat info where it would be needed like how the weavers returned etc.

[polar stag]

I can't believe we're getting Oblivion Remake before Silksong

[oblique musk]

Not unless the Oblivion Remake releases in the next 8 days.

[carmine island]

The shermvidson record…

[brittle garnet]

and then new players who played silksong first can hear vague mentions of another kingdom through Hornet's dialogue and they get curious about it and then they play hollow knight

[sinful flare]

slicksong

[polar stag]

I think it's out tomorrow personally. All the leaks said shadow drop on the week of the 21st

[normal token]

Ye I'm getting what Arch is saying
Old-timers will recognize HK bits but not to the point new players will get lost and might get invested

[marsh ibex]

Well sure but who cares several of her attacks originate from HK and the game’s gonna delve into her past

[brittle garnet]

i don't think that's a valid point

the period where it was gonna be an expansion was incredibly brief

[oblique musk]

And are these leaks in the room with us right now?

[brittle garnet]

and it was basically developed as standalone from the very start

[harsh yarrow]

Silksong probably died as an expansion as soon as Team Cherry realized that they designed Hallownest with only the Knight in mind

[rustic ore]

i mean they said as much

the moment they tried to put hornet in as a playable they realized everything was too short

[harsh yarrow]

Which was probably as soon as they got Hornet in game and working

[brittle garnet]

i mean nonetheless Hornet herself is tied to Hallownest and on account of being the protagonist there will be stuff relevant to that

[normal token]

They took 1 year and a half to figure out how the fuck areas are gonna work with Hornet's height

[oblique musk]

She was 6'0" in a 5'11" world.

[polar stag]

Bruh it was getting talked about for a long time down to who was developing it I'm pretty sure. And the fact that we are actually getting some announcement related to it on the 21st all but confirms it. Did you see the announcement? https://www.youtube.com/live/Ed_E2crglcw?si=v9iwrDlNnQBBwDQC

[brittle garnet]

i think that's a misquote