sk-discussion

[glossy berry]

worried about your weight? struggling with your died? eat a raw chicken breast. you will not regret eating a whole raw chicken breast

[coarse leaf]

that cant be good

[gray parcel]

Anything that makes you violently throw up is a great weight loser

[viscid wind]

1 potator a day keeps the starvation away

[smoky nebula]

Salmonella poisoning!

[gray parcel]

Just remember to hydrate!!

[smoky nebula]

Guys this isn't good for you

[pale vessel]

NOOO

[smoky nebula]

You should want a few extra pounds in this economy
What if there's a famine

[gray parcel]

Beauty comes with pain smh

[tidal ruin]

I am struggling with my died

[gray parcel]

Then I shall feast upon the weakest

[tidal ruin]

Also I prefer live pufferfish

[gray parcel]

Not like I need to eat anyways

[coarse leaf]

Personally i just use cocaine

[smoky nebula]

Bad beauty standards methinks

[gray parcel]

The Poison gets the nerves running

[gray parcel]

My bf told me that smh

[oblique musk]

Are you a businessman or stockbroker of some sort?

[glossy berry]

eat enough raw chicken and you wont struggle with that either dw

[gray parcel]

And he’s pretty so I think he’s right

[smoky nebula]

Also go get tuberculosis or something, that was a beauty standard back in my day(Victorian England)

[coarse leaf]

I wish

[gray parcel]

Red dead redemption 2 reference??

[oblique musk]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-morgan-arthur-morgan-coughing-authur-coughing-gif-513313727455126590

[coarse leaf]

Could actually afford shit then in this economy smh

[gray parcel]

The best diet is an almond every day

[versed pollen]

What the fart do stockbrokers do with their time

[gray parcel]

1 and 1/2 almonds on weekends

[smoky nebula]

More money

[versed pollen]

Do they just look at the stockmarket and get paid

[tidal ruin]

What if I gamble it for 2 almonds

[gray parcel]

Yeah

[gray parcel]

THEN YOULL BECOME FAT AND OBSE

[coarse leaf]

They manage Stocks so that depends

[viscid wind]

what was thing that makes you crazy drunk for a bit then kills you

[versed pollen]

How truly fascinating

[tidal ruin]

Alcohol

[coarse leaf]

They didnt get paid when trump did the funny for example

[oblique musk]

Whatever the hell this guy is doing

https://youtu.be/wM6exo00T5I?feature=shared

[gray parcel]

Alcohol?

[coarse leaf]

Or well maybe they did if they sold early and then bought back the dip i guess

[viscid wind]

ethylene glycol

[gray parcel]

I need my swords back smh

[pulsar remnant]

What happened to your swords

[versed pollen]

Oh I see

[gray parcel]

They got taken away by the evil queen (my mother) and kept in her magical vault (her real estate storage)

[obsidian owl]

gg

[coarse leaf]

Such a banger movie

[viscid wind]

how much sines is enough to kill you

[gray parcel]

Does milk and bread help with poison like the hunger games says?

[versed pollen]

Probably like 3 if they're placed right

[lone crown]

Have you seen Raider

[gray parcel]

No

[lone crown]

Nightreign

[gray parcel]

New Night reign class?

Are they the Viking?

[lone crown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NWcjWwomTY

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784107545119686676/1361752160290869512/Screen_Recording_2025-04-15_at_12.56.49_PM-2.gif

[gray parcel]

Looks like an omen really

[lone crown]

Viking

Who drinks alcohol

[gray parcel]

My brother?!

[lone crown]

In-game he headbutts things like a fucking dragon for example, and can earthbend a giant pillar to be used as a platform and a wall

[coarse leaf]

[gray parcel]

Poise breaker i guess

[lone crown]

Yes

[gray parcel]

Hammer build’s wet dream

Idk I’m still running Wylder 😭😭

[lone crown]

All of them are goated so far

[gray parcel]

True!

Ironeye seems neat

I might try him out

Elden ring has already made a better ranger class than the actual DND ranger class 💔

[lone crown]

Cant wait to see the deflector, and then finally the Executor (summoner class)

On paper elden ring summoning is pretty boring but i saw what the summoner was capable of in some leaked footage and im so happy

[cunning geode]

do they summon sharks

[cyan forum]

how about seals

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/728036949310439425/1361759093617852468/VID_20250414_060023_322.mp4?ex=67ffec7c&is=67fe9afc&hm=483fbcad12417cfa05b440aae33c1406c09e9e5ab5d98fe672a32b6f1ec0e643&

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/zato-zato-1-guilty-gear-zato-one-damned-fang-gif-15529626125983599078

[vivid belfry]

Is that a beyblade

[rapid abyss]

Yall

J. Pork got revived

[cedar trench]

THE NEW BLACK MIRROR EPISODE

THEY DID IT THEY DID THE THING

what if ya wife ran on batteries

[topaz totem]

Ive been summoned

Beyblade beyblade let it rip

[versed pollen]

Robo wife...

[brittle garnet]

he's awesome, this will be my main

[fossil pawn]

updating nvidia graphics driver sucks

[brittle garnet]

or my second main, recluse spells look too fun

[vagrant onyx]

i had no issues on downloading and installing nvidia drivers from their official site

[viscid wind]

Does anyone remember that movie

with puppets, numbers, human souls trapped inside the puppets or something, the souls are green, robots took over as well

numbered puppets i think

[last shale]

No

It’s Eddie

[wet tulip]

i like big weapon

[wet tulip]

the man spawns a giant rock to make a jump attack

[last shale]

He looks awesome

Recluse still looks the best though

[tidal ruin]

Man its only been 2 weeks since skong release window, I'll never make it another 2 months

[viscid wind]

who the fuck names a movie 9

[vivid belfry]

the guys who made 9

[fresh zodiac]

silksong if it was fucking good

[sinful flare]

fortnight

[glossy berry]

wait until we actually get a q4 release lmao

[tidal ruin]

I think I would evaporate

[chilly crane]

Watch me whip it watch me oh

[formal karma]

Luckily waiting isn't hard so it'll just be nice

Whenever it chooses to appear

[warm birch]

who feels like wiliams shitposts are actually a puzzle

[normal token]

They're not

[full rune]

no one with a brain

[wheat imp]

the guys that decide to make a movie titled 9, and proceed to release it on 9. 9. 2009.

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[dusty nimbus]

Closes pc and goes to sleep

[idle scaffold]

To be fair after saying there is no ARG didn't he say it sounded interesting if it was? who knows

[dusty nimbus]

The good ending

[fiery burrow]

You can do that???

[dusty nimbus]

Watch me

[shell yacht]

That's not what was said at all

[idle scaffold]

Oh ok.

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/true-false-morgan-freeman-morgan-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-gif-12327205492865572348

[vivid wagon]

can you pogo in silksong?

[shell yacht]

Sorta

[trim estuary]

Kinda

[vivid wagon]

its not like the normal hollow knight?

[trim estuary]

There's multiple downslashes so

[fiery burrow]

The pogo is buffed

[open narwhal]

I lowkey forgot what this episode is about jojo is so forgettable 💔

[vivid wagon]

can you do it like in hollow knight?

[fiery burrow]

Its diagonal, so it hits below you + in front of you

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1359022287470202931/CrestAttacks.png?ex=67ffdae2&is=67fe8962&hm=2e27a70fe8776d63aa359d63fe5b5bea662a2602e12c8448bc8703a0c78e6a60&

[vivid wagon]

theres 4 different pogos😭😭

[trim estuary]

Yep

[last shale]

Silksong will have 12 different unique types of moves and only 12

[trim estuary]

Likely more

[fiery burrow]

Crests are going to be so peak

[vivid wagon]

do each of these need specific crests to perform

[fiery burrow]

Yes

[trim estuary]

Crests determine your entire moveset (excluding skills/spells) and how many tools you can equip, so yes

[vivid wagon]

are crest like charms?

[trim estuary]

Different but similar idea

[fiery burrow]

You equip em but its only one at a time

Tools are more analogous to charms

[last shale]

Crests might be a little better than Hollow Knight charms with the starting amount of charm notches

[lofty parrot]

is this the reaper crest?

[trim estuary]

Crests have slots for tools, which can either be active things you can throw/use (the bombs and pins seen in the trailers) or passive effects like charms

[trim estuary]

I think so… maybe…

[vivid belfry]

that's the general consensus

[normal token]

Lines up with the layout of this

[lofty parrot]

yea thats what i have been looking at but there is a difference with how many protruding spikes there are in this image and on what places they are located, so i don't know if its the same crest or 2 defferent ones

[slate wagon]

i mean it’s pretty much the same, just one extra spike at the top

[serene chasm]

The crest/tool diagram and the hud are unlikely to be 1:1

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[serene chasm]

hi andy

[slate wagon]

i wanna see what the claw crest design looks like in the menus

[atomic sparrow]

hello curly

[slate wagon]

my money is on the weaver crest in the corner there

[vivid belfry]

I don't think the crest menu is going to look anything like this in the final game

[serene chasm]

I wonder if the crests change anything else. Like movement speed and damage?

[slate wagon]

what makes you say that?

[normal token]

I also wonder what this icon is supposed to mean, is it just a shortcut for quests?

[vivid belfry]

I mean there's certainly impacts to the effective movement speed

[vivid belfry]

likely

[lone crown]

You know you’re cooked with the Pharloom brainrot when you read a “No Smoking” sign as “No Silksong”

[normal token]

In one of her down attack she literally becomes a buzzsaw so p sure

[serene chasm]

[normal token]

Why angy :(

[vivid belfry]

inefficient use of space, plus the fact that crest upgrades have seemingly been implemented based on newer footage

[serene chasm]

Hornet when she gets a ping

[normal token]

Oh lmao

[celest fractal]

Imagine in mounts actually get added to silksong, Im not sure how that would work but it would be fuckin cool

[lone crown]

Definitely a questboard, Pharloom icon would represent the kingdom itself which is a good iconography for the various quests to do in Pharloom, also questboard updates so it makes sense to have the pink ping

[vivid belfry]

source for the crest upgrade claim

[lone crown]

Yes i know journal also updates but aint no way thats the journal

[normal token]

Wonder if this is why we don't see a questboard for bellhart then and just put it in a menu

[vivid belfry]

journal and quests could be under the same tab, iirc there were sub-tabs in the first trailer

[slate wagon]

am i blind whats been upgraded here

[vivid belfry]

two active tools

[sharp agate]

Are yall still mad?

[slate wagon]

hasn’t that always been a thing?

[vivid belfry]

no

in the first trailer, hornet's starter crest only had one of each available

[normal token]

The initial Wanderer crest only showed a slot for 1 active tool

[lone crown]

Highly doubt that
I just think there’s no questboard in that one instance since you just arrived and Bellhart is in a fucked up state

[slate wagon]

ohhhh, i see what you’re saying now
ngl i always assumed tool notches were always gonna be upgradable

[vivid belfry]

me too but there was a school of thought that different crests were the upgrades

which I was always skeptical of and rejected outright when we found out they changed the moveset

[lone crown]

Crests better not have a thing where they’re just upgraded superior versions of past crests considering they have varying movesets

One thing that worries me is the varying tool slots claim in EDGE

[vivid belfry]

I don't remember that

[lone crown]

Let me find it

[frozen frigate]

Listening to Disquiet by Unreqvited before the sun has come up

[compact night]

Guys QUICK favorite hollow knight OST?!

[normal token]

That was my first thought too but we'll see ig

[lone crown]

Okay not necessarily a claim, but an example of two crests

[normal token]

Edge mentions something about helping rebuilding too if I'm not mistaken

[slate wagon]

having tool slots tied to crests just seems like a weird move to me
like why make earlier crests just objectively worse (assuming they all do the same damage)

[vivid belfry]

also I theorize that this greyed-out skill in the direct footage is the damaging dash from the xbox trailer

[lone crown]

Yeah

[vivid belfry]

this was either an incorrect assumption or something that's been changed, we've already seen the wanderer with two red slots

[lone crown]

They word it as customizable, themed loadouts so im hopeful that any tool slots you get become universal or something and have not much bearing on the tools themselves, other than synergies (I HOPE)

[south vigil]

sharp silk

[lone crown]

Then I hope tool count is universal and completely separate from crests, which would be the best call imo

Especially since they outright say crests will affect movesets, binding, and some other thing they’re keeping a secret from us

[vivid belfry]

that's what I imagine is the case, because the alternative would be both damaging to customization and harder to implement

[lone crown]

100% music related if i had to guess

[slate wagon]

wait crests affect hornets binding?
i didn’t know that
i’m guessing some are faster but heal less, or vice versa

[lone crown]

The strumming needle gimmick is my best guess

[serene chasm]

I want the crest system to be like the system in transistor

[normal token]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-guitar-solo-gif-9267954

Hornet against the final boss

[warped rock]

I want a crest in the game yhat turns all the music into metal music

[lone crown]

It’s only been binding times, that we know of so far

[vivid belfry]

we have multiple shots of the harp crest sporting a lower healing cost and seemingly a smaller healing indicator

[slate wagon]

each crest gives you a different song to unlock different areas

[vivid belfry]

could be tool related though

[sharp agate]

How long frm release will we get SS mods?

[warped rock]

Name it "metal silksong" boom 100 silkillion copies sold

[glossy berry]

though its worth mentioning this could very feasibly also be a consequence of a passive tool we cant see, its not terribly clear

[lone crown]

Imagine a 0.1 second heal for one mask and was dirt-cheap

BRRRIP BRRRIP BRRRIP

[glossy berry]

nut true

[serene chasm]

3 days

[lone crown]

I would love to see some modded crests ngl

[normal token]

After finishing binding, the reaper crest seemed to have change which idk what it could mean

[lone crown]

Just see what shit people cook

[serene chasm]

Gun Crest!

[lone crown]

Fishing rod crest

[normal token]

@ Taco

[frozen frigate]

God I hope there's a fishing mechanic

[glossy berry]

it retracta and expands out after healing yeaugh

[slate wagon]

it’s the tk themed crest, she has to stand in one place for like 3 seconds just like her sibling

[vivid belfry]

unfortunately it's the only crest we've seen be used for healing in newer footage

[glossy berry]

seems neat tbh

[normal token]

Ye, we're unaware if this applies to different crests or not atm

[glossy berry]

id assume the harp ctest also changes on heal just by consequence of the whole like

harp thing lmao

[normal token]

Are we gonna need a PhD to figure out Silksong combat

[vivid belfry]

I mean the harp crest legitimately does seem based around the knight's moveset

it replaces her diagonal pogo with one more similar to the one in HK

[slate wagon]

just like old times
i do kinda wonder how good that crest will be, idk maybe i have claw crest brain rot but it looks so much duller than the rest

[normal token]

With how crests change attacks I wonder how they're manage the layout with all the different possible crests then

[glossy berry]

im sure itll have its own upsides tbh

[slate wagon]

why did the picture with all the crests get taken off pins

[median fractal]

first we hollow knight
then we silksong

-# let's hollow knight: silksong!

[glossy berry]

i cant imagine crests dont equal out in dps roughly ngl

or those with higher having much more risk necessary

as long as we dont end up with qs/str bullshit again im game

[vivid belfry]

this is why I imagine passives got split into two categories

I'm hoping the groups are stat buff shit and weirdo shit

[sand lodge]

This one crest that was only shown in the edge magazine screenshots also has a smaller notch earlier on the spool indicating being able to heal earlier.
But i suspect it might just be an earlier design for the harp crest.

[blazing geyser]

Im notching my shell

[normal token]

Welcome back Mush

[blazing geyser]

Hi pichu

[glossy berry]

thatd be real cool yeah

hk charms were awesome in theory but you had literally no reason not to just use the super hard meta charms lol
why take minions or whatever when you can just take shamans and strength and outclass literally everything

i need hornet to have some weird bullshit in her kit. for enrichment

tools help there ngl

[slate wagon]

mods just let anyone in here huh

[vivid belfry]

I don't necessarily think the problem with HK charms was systemic, it was that a lot of them individually were just bad

[mild pollen]

is there a collection anywhere of all the crest and items that have been seen (and theorized) about from the trailers and media?

[vivid belfry]

glowing womb is mathematically dogshit

[brittle garnet]

yeah this is 100% a WIP harp crest

[vivid belfry]

and also feels bad to use

[heavy mason]

I forgot about that crest

It could’ve been reworked

[slate wagon]

glowing womb after stealing all your soul to give you 10 damage

[vivid belfry]

really if all the more esoteric charms had any kind of damage scaling they would probably be fine

which will probably be baked in to red tools so that's nice

[lofty parrot]

is there like a file or a google drive that has names of tools from silksong? Because on the silksong wiki there is only a hand full of named items but i see youtubers confidently calling items but some names that is never heard of. So i dont know if they are just making stfu up or actually have some secret file with the names

[sand lodge]

even more so because another screenshot shows it with a similar ring around the spool like the harp crest

[cunning geode]

fan names only for most of them

[slate wagon]

very few tools have confirmed names

[normal token]

I think we only have pimpillo and cogfly atm

[slate wagon]

tri pins

[normal token]

And the straight/tri pins

[lofty parrot]

streight pin

[glossy berry]

fuck wait pins yeah

[slate wagon]

sting shards too iirc

[glossy berry]

we have like. 4

not quite community resource tier

[cunning geode]

we also have this pin

[lofty parrot]

and the Sting Shards

since that is a hollow knight hornets attack

[normal token]

I hope Ari completes this by saying "song" for the next trailer

[cunning geode]

no it'll be Jack

Ari remains silent

[glossy berry]

on the topic of hornets kit do we like skills being equippable over the hk directional spell shit

[cunning geode]

i like both

[glossy berry]

agreed yeah!
just curious if yall prefer one

[steady sage]

i think both have merit :3

[lofty parrot]

i would have to try it first to know, right now i cant say for sure

[normal token]

I'll have to play the game before deciding that

[slate wagon]

just make skills changable on the fly, automatically makes them better

[normal token]

Style switching basically

[cunning geode]

silksong should have motion inputs

[shrewd wigeon]

can't wait for hornet to shoryuken

[steady sage]

i wanna play Silksong with a Wii remote :3

[serene chasm]

silksong should have vr support

[heavy mason]

That would actually be really cool

Hk in vr

But how would it work if it’s a 2d game?

[brittle garnet]

we only know the official name of 3 tools

or 4 i think

sting shard, pimpillo, straight pin, tri-pin

[normal token]

Yeah that makes 4 with 1 being an upgrade

[subtle flint]

silksong should have couch co op

[glossy berry]

cogfly

[brittle garnet]

I think maybe tools and spells might use the same button, since we see tools have up/down arrows

[brittle garnet]

oh yeah that's 5

[glossy berry]

love him dearly

[vivid belfry]

In the E3 demo they were mapped to 2 separate buttons, and I can't imagine only having access to one skill at a time

[lament mango]

Yoooo just saw the nightreign trailer for the new chsrecter

Raider, looks to he the Strength mfer

[brittle garnet]

things might have changed since then

[heavy mason]

The tools are mapped up and down

[brittle garnet]

tool icons didnt have arrows in the demo

[heavy mason]

As shown in the Xbox trailer and recent images

[vivid belfry]

I'm aware of that

tools and skills can both have directional inputs

[brittle garnet]

i think the silk grappling hook ability is probably mapped to a separate button tho

[vivid belfry]

agreed, especially now that it's confirmed there are more than 3 skills

[lament mango]

We should just remove buttons, just plug your brain directly into the console. What's the worst thst could happen?

[heavy mason]

Also all the silk abilities are probably mapped to one button

[lament mango]

I think it's alos based off of crests imo

[vivid belfry]

nahhh, there's a white slot in multiple of the crests that either changes or empowers equipped skills

[brittle garnet]

i just think that since the tools have up/down arrows, and the white slot is in between them, and we only see one spell icon in the new screenshots, we can only use one spell

[heavy mason]

Yea

[vivid belfry]

it just seems pretty limiting

[heavy mason]

There’s also permanent abilities like a dash and wall jump

[fiery burrow]

boycotting TC if this is true

[heavy mason]

What

[fiery burrow]

You heard me

[brittle garnet]

it is disappointing if true

[heavy mason]

I don’t think you can use each silk ability at the same time

[brittle garnet]

but i think its probable

[heavy mason]

Like the circle and silk spear

I don’t see the problem

[fiery burrow]

I want bothhhh

[woeful matrix]

girlcotting tc if its fake

[normal token]

Grapple is def part of your basic moveser
Shame stuff like gosammer stoem and silk spear will have to be separate

[woeful matrix]

what in the fuck does this even mean

[brittle garnet]

becuse if spells and tools were separate buttons, where would you bind them? In HK you had crystal dash and dream nail, in SS you have silk grapple and whatever the music playing is activated by, so there wouldn't be enough buttons

[fiery burrow]

My favorite part of HK combat was finding clever ways to use spells in boss fights

[heavy mason]

There’s gonna be a ton more benches so you would be able to change them out

It doesn’t seem to be the big problem

[normal token]

This is why SS will have KB&M only support

[heavy mason]

Especially if you unlock them during certain parts of the game instead all at once

[fiery burrow]

What if I want to use two spells in the same encounter

[oblique musk]

Every console port requires you to jailbreak the console to use kbm

[heavy mason]

We don’t know

[lament mango]

That's what the tools are for i imagine

[formal marsh]

then play hollow knight

[heavy mason]

Silkspear is needed to unlock certain areas

So they’re probably used for mainly progressing

[fiery burrow]

What if I want to use the silk parry and gossamer storm in the same encounter

[heavy mason]

With the silk circle being for attack

[normal token]

Honestly I'd be happy if we would get to use 2 silk spells by alternating them with RT/LT or sth like thay

[formal marsh]

That would be a problem.

[heavy mason]

We will see when the game comes out

We have crest that can change you moveset

There’s gonna be so many options of how to play

[vivid belfry]

there's no reason to do this if they have directional inputs though, which the control scheme would support

[oblique musk]

That could be a problem of its own if the place that requires the skill is far from a bench, since it would suck to have to backtrack.

[heavy mason]

Well, we don’t know how progressing is gonna work in the game yet

But I can’t wait to see what happens

[fiery burrow]

?

[ruby sierra]

Who else is excited for speedrunning silksong once it comes out

[vivid belfry]

there are a lot of instances of obstacles like this in hollow knight and they always have freely available soul nearby

[normal token]

Shrue

[vivid belfry]

and silksong's system for this is even better than soul totems

[full ledge]

Backtracking in a metroidvania 🤯

[normal token]

Iirc Deep Docks did have a silk spool too

[glossy berry]

hrm
im leaning towards its being an empowerment thing actually the footage we have of the wanderers crest literally would not have a skill slot otherwise

[vivid belfry]

deep docks has silk spools, moss grotto has silk webs

[heavy mason]

It does in a image

[vivid belfry]

there could be more we haven't seen

[heavy mason]

We get the silkspear early on

Since it’s needed to progress

We’ll have to see what the crests do fully when the game comes out

[heavy mason]

Hmm

It might’ve been changed or we do get a crest early on

[slate wagon]

this is why i have a theory that the wanderers crest will be upgraded to kept up with later crests

[heavy mason]

Since the first image from the original trailer

[glossy berry]

one of these is far newer than the other tbf

[heavy mason]

Lots of stuff was changed in the edge magazine

[slate wagon]

more specifically upgraded to this crest

[heavy mason]

Image 2

[oblique musk]

thx

[heavy mason]

This game is gonna be so fun

[normal token]

And the "new" one is 4 years old already

[glossy berry]

reaper crest is from edge, wanderers is reveal trailer tbf

liable to have undergone heavy change

[heavy mason]

Idk why people are mad that we can’t use two silk abilities. It doesn’t seem that big of a deal.

[heavy mason]

Since we don’t know, fully how they work

[glossy berry]

its a pretty big hit to combat options tbf

[heavy mason]

Hornets gonna have such a better moveset then the knight

[spare fractal]

hi everyone

[oblique musk]

Sometimes a "hit to combat options" can increase the depth of the combat itself.

[oblique musk]

good morning

[vivid belfry]

Going from three spell options to one has huge implications on the silk economy

[glossy berry]

literally the only two images we've had of the crests menu since announcement lol i forget how dire it is

[normal token]

Those goddamn pharloom tariffs

[glossy berry]

heya patoo!

[spare fractal]

hey, mae!

[opaque sigil]

I mean I don't like it but you could definitely read the hud here as implying they're on the same button

[heavy mason]

[vivid belfry]

I mean you could but why would you

[opaque sigil]

pessimism

[oblique musk]

Yeah, I feel like if I were TC, I would only put the skill icon between the tools if they were mapped to the same button.

[glossy berry]

mhm mhm
which is an interesting call tbh

[opaque sigil]

a lame call

[brittle garnet]

yeah this makes sense since this is just the default wanderer pogo animation

[vivid belfry]

Surely they considered that spamming one spell for an entire boss fight is a downgrade from having options for what to use soul on

[brittle garnet]

tools

[heavy mason]

Huh

[opaque sigil]

unless you have a setup with a set of basic spells that have directional inputs plus one you swap out that's on a different button

[vivid belfry]

Soul

[heavy mason]

Will just have to see when the full game comes

[glossy berry]

im gonna check footage again but is that a universal skill symbol (you have enough silk for xyz) or for a specific one

[normal token]

Cant wait to pull off fighting games combos

[heavy mason]

We definitely know better by then

[opaque sigil]

for a specific one

[heavy mason]

But anyways need sherma

[opaque sigil]

the gossamer storm clip has something different there that clearly corresponds to the spell

[glossy berry]

hm
i dont love that actually okay

tragic

[vivid belfry]

It's universal if they all have the same cost

[opaque sigil]

I've been saying it would suck for years

[heavy mason]

Hmm

[normal token]

Silksong is RUINED?!?!?!??!?!

[opaque sigil]

the icon itself corresponds to a specific skill though

[heavy mason]

I just say wait till the full game is out then we can say what we want about the spells

[opaque sigil]

this is the slashy slashy

[opaque sigil]

you are welcome to not participate in discussion

[heavy mason]

No no it’s fine

[glossy berry]

...nintendo screenshots do not have this skill icon

[cosmic shard]

no talking about the game until its out guys

[glossy berry]

hm

[opaque sigil]

dunno what this is maybe the iframe dash

[vivid belfry]

Yes but that doesn't mean it's the only available skill

[heavy mason]

The game is not out yet so we’re still just trying to question stuff

[glossy berry]

i assumed silk spear or something

[vivid belfry]

Just that something about it is being indicated

[heavy mason]

Its exciting

[opaque sigil]

and can't even begin to imagine what this nonsense is

[opaque sigil]

nah we've seen that icon before

that would probably look like this

[opaque sigil]

not definitively no

[normal token]

I've seen people say the riposte/counter but hard to decipher

[opaque sigil]

maybe

[heavy mason]

Hornet prob has a double jump

[opaque sigil]

eh

[subtle flint]

its obviously a grappling hook

[opaque sigil]

hopefully not glide would be cooler

[heavy mason]

She’s able to blow up her cloak

[sand lodge]

might be this one

[glossy berry]

true true
i dont think we can know for certain, but the fact that new screenshots maintain tool icons, but dont have the glowing skill symbol is an oddity

[opaque sigil]

and doing that is not a double jump

[normal token]

There is that 1 move from the seth fight gif

[opaque sigil]

yes that icon may be simplified

[glossy berry]

yeah no thats it okay

[opaque sigil]

which is not a double jump

[vivid belfry]

Alright how about this

[heavy mason]

It’s probably airborne

[brittle garnet]

the only hope is that the icon only shows the equippable spell, and you still have 3 which all cost the same amount of silk

[heavy mason]

But hornet is a balloon

[opaque sigil]

hopefully yes

[brittle garnet]

but i doubt it

[heavy mason]

And a drill

[normal token]

Ye I was just adding to the glide part which could be that if the button is held

[opaque sigil]

yeah that's the source of the glide idea

[brittle garnet]

which ones don't?

[vivid belfry]

Neutral directional input skill gets swapped out, up skill is grapple, down skill is parry

[opaque sigil]

I doubt it

[brittle garnet]

i think parry is swappable tbh

[spare fractal]

man I'm feeling bored

[glossy berry]

both of these are at point where you should have at least one skill unlocked, and yet we dont get the hud circle

[vivid belfry]

Could be but it's the one I imagine people would consider most critical

[opaque sigil]

there could just not be one equipped

[heavy mason]

Maybe it’s just not equipped

[brittle garnet]

i feel like these could just be dev console'd teleported there instead of being there through natural progression

[spare fractal]

I wanna play a multiplayer game with someone but there isn't many online games I play that my friends play too

[heavy mason]

Playing silksong but I can’t use crests or tools

[opaque sigil]

I mean they certainly are

[glossy berry]

i mean yeah for sure
why go through the effort of showing the tool if thats the case though

[brittle garnet]

?

cause why not

alternatively, these are from before they made the indicator at all

[opaque sigil]

possible? it would be weird to have the same batch of screenshots from builds that are that different

[glossy berry]

these are both new screenshots from post-direct, and were made in late feb based on metadata

[normal token]

According to metadata extraction they were made in feb

[brittle garnet]

hm

[heavy mason]

Cool to know

[opaque sigil]

that doesn't really mean they were all initially made at the same time they could've been cropped from footage or whatever

[normal token]

I think it's as shrimple as not having any skills equipped tbh

[opaque sigil]

seems most plausible

[glossy berry]

what

[pastel aspen]

crypto bot alert 😭

[normal token]

Curry in main holy shit

[glossy berry]

<@&283547423706447872> lmao

[pastel aspen]

waking up from my slumber to the place it all began

[glossy berry]

just to be sure T-T

[oblique musk]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[opaque sigil]

anyways nazi crypto nonsense aside

[normal token]

Despite everything there is a feeling to need to come back here

[shell yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793128374213279776/1301702044586872842/ThatsItGetInTheWoodChipper-1.gif

[glossy berry]

i mean probably but a girl can dream lol

looking for excuses/hope that it isnt a single equipable kinda deal

[sand lodge]

At the very last frame of the newest sizzle reel footage hornet uses what looks like the grapple move. This could maybe mean that its tied to a separate button maybe

[glossy berry]

we'll see ig

[slate wagon]

grapple is a permanent move i’m pretty sure, similar to c dash

[opaque sigil]

it doesn't really seem that way

[opaque sigil]

probably not

[brittle garnet]

probably yes, imo

[opaque sigil]

with the last bit of the b roll footage you can't make out the hud icon

[opaque sigil]

.

[glossy berry]

its a fairly integral part of platforming in a lot of areas i dont see why it wouldnt be an intrinsic bit of her kit

[slate wagon]

why would it not be? it’s a pretty major movement option, and there are objects around that use it to move on

[opaque sigil]

says who?

[opaque sigil]

those may be confined to a specialized sequence when you get it

[brittle garnet]

that seems inconclusive

and we saw other WIP stuff in EDGE

[opaque sigil]

did i say conclusive or did I say probably

and something like grapple being permanent wouldn't be a snap decision

[sand lodge]

it does look like both the clips have the same stuff equipped though

[paper vapor]

No meme?

[weary tapir]

There is no meme get on Balatro

[paper vapor]

Fair, anywho any new silksong news?

Tragic, back to balatro ig

[opaque sigil]

they're probably the same clip

same room, same crest, etc

[glossy berry]

i can guarantee these are probably two snippets of the same single clip yeah

[brittle garnet]

i do think that if grapple is required for platforming (and we have reason to believe it is) it's very unlikely to be swappable

[full rune]

#hk-announcements unmute the channel

[slate wagon]

idk grapple feels too major to not be a permanent thing

[sand lodge]

Yeah that is why i assumed that the grapple move would be a different button/directional input

[opaque sigil]

I've been saying since edge that it should be permanent

hopefully it is

[opaque sigil]

this is what I'm going with still

[sand lodge]

Yeah that would be ideal

[dusty nimbus]

What if it's equipable and allows for different traversal options like how crests provide variety in combat?

[glossy berry]

are these both from new clips?

[opaque sigil]

if an equippable item is regularly necessary to access certain pathways that would suck

[sand lodge]

Yes, both are from the direct

[dusty nimbus]

I might be overthinking tbf

[glossy berry]

cool
identical animation to old grapple footage means that its almost guaranteed to be permanent

[oblique musk]

Yeah, iirc it only happened once in HK

[opaque sigil]

it happened once where the item explicitly tells you the use

[sand lodge]

Wait no i meant only one of them is the new one

[opaque sigil]

there's no stumbling across things and having to fuck off back to a bench to change your kit

[oblique musk]

Exactly, it’s about as unegregious as possible.

[glossy berry]

ah fair my bad </3
misunderstood 😔

bodes well either way lol i dont see any reason they'd make it equipable

[oblique musk]

Wait hold on I forgot about the lifeblood core room

Ig that’s not progression tho

[glossy berry]

tbf thats also one single instance and is also overtly marked

[opaque sigil]

lifeblood core is also something you're deliberately planning around

[sand lodge]

No i messed up i think you are right. i used the old one to compare the animations like you did, i just misspoke in my reply

[opaque sigil]

you aren't showing up, realizing 'oh I should've been wearing joni's' and turning back

[slate wagon]

mfw i accidentally make it to the abyss with 22 lifeblood masks

[opaque sigil]

"what are the odds"

[glossy berry]

common mistake to make in a casual run yeah happens to the best of us

[oblique musk]

That’s like actually kinda hard, since Fragile Heart + Joni’s + Lifeblood Heart is only 18 masks.

I think

[formal marsh]

come on now

[dusty nimbus]

It makes sense to make traversal tools like claw, wings and dash permanent to avoid it being annoying as fuck, compared to having very few niche occurances where you need specific items for the secret area

[glossy berry]

oh dear lord thats tragic T-T
next time fr

[formal marsh]

this is the 2nd or 3rd time i die on this attack

[tidal ruin]

I just "completed" katana zero, but I definitely think I missed something since it was only a 5 hour playthrough and I still have questions

[opaque sigil]

it's a short game, what was the last thing you did

[formal marsh]

in a row i meant

[glossy berry]

where were you at?

[tidal ruin]

killed my therapist

then got hunted by police

[formal marsh]

damn

[opaque sigil]

which mask did you choose

[formal marsh]

what about in game

[marsh ibex]

every time I see you here needing undertale help the problem is removed by moving in a circle

[formal marsh]

i dont need help
i know i need to circle and i fucked up the circle at the very end

[tidal ruin]

I chose the silver mask, got that ending, then chose gold to continue
that was earlier in the story though

[formal marsh]

i just want to share that this was a frustrating point to die

[marsh ibex]

nah

[opaque sigil]

then yeah you got through it

[glossy berry]

yeah okay that is just katana zero lol
good game can i ask what the main questions are

[formal marsh]

still funny that it happened twice though

[marsh ibex]

Your ass was doing an asterisk

[formal marsh]

😭

[opaque sigil]

there is a secret boss if you want to do some replaying, plus there's the new mecca lab with alt weapons

[tidal ruin]

Mainly stuff I assume will be answered in the upcoming dlc, but there are some I think I might have just missed

I'll type them out and spoiler tag them

[glossy berry]

o7

[glossy berry]

the secret boss goes so hard by the way i can recommend a ton
fun fight

[tidal ruin]

||whats the significance of the little girl being in our dream in the beginning?||
||Is the girl in the real world actually real, or a hallucination caused by withdrawal?||
||what was on the computer we were made to destroy?||
||how did we end up working for that man, against the rest of the null soldiers?||
mainly this stuff (wall text)

[chilly crane]

Woo hoo

[chrome basalt]

I do not miss playing the genocide route, and this just reminds me of the stress

[tidal ruin]

is there any lore to it or just cool fight?
either way I'ma do it

[formal marsh]

its fun

[chrome basalt]

The sans fight specifically is fun but getting there is awful

[tidal ruin]

I could not beat sans, got to his final attack like 20 times but eventually gave up

[opaque sigil]

most of that is just "who knows"
you're ||working for the therapist after getting amnesia and he's keeping you in CHRONOS (though he lied and claimed it was your medication,) I think you're working on like a government cover up to hide the null project and shit, that was very hush hush and having the soldiers running around after the fact ain't great for publicity ||

[sharp agate]

Should i mod Hornet into Hollow Knight or just wait until Silksong? Dont wanna get spoiled

[opaque sigil]

I don't think ||she could be caused by withdrawal though, iirc you see her while still getting the regular shots||

[marsh ibex]

what?

[oblique musk]

Yeah you may as well just hop on jcw87.github.io at that point

[sharp agate]

Her skin

Custom knight mod

[full rune]

should i buy a $550 guitar from fb marketplace i wanna spoil myself

[marsh ibex]

|| there’s also the tragedy and comedy masks apparently having her all wrapped up or smth?||

Very confusing stuff

[oblique musk]

And this would spoil you how???

[sharp agate]

Did you pay rent yet?

[formal marsh]

is it an electric guitar or a guitar guitar

[marsh ibex]

how does playing a skin in hk not get you spoiled for silksong

[full rune]

yes

[marsh ibex]

There’s literally no correlation

[full rune]

its a hybrid

[oblique musk]

On that r = 0 timing

[chrome basalt]

What kind of guitar?

[full rune]

TOD10N

[glossy berry]

mhm
||every single one of your targets throughout the game, bar the dj, are directly connected to the production, use, or manufacturing of CHRONOS and the null project

hence you being listed as the next target, just the next head on the chopping block of hiding the project under the rug||

[tidal ruin]

Ah, so ||was the therapist's goal to wipe out chronos or just cover it up? He instructed us to destroy a lot of things related to chronos, but I don't know if he ever intended to keep the null soldiers going||

[opaque sigil]

who also... ||may or may not be real? they do kill those cops but that could be part of the hallucination (unless I'm not remembering something)||

[chrome basalt]

Mmmm

[heady iron]

you should spend 12500 aud on roc's odyssey instead

[formal marsh]

discount coupon ass name

[oblique musk]

I spent 10 AUD and had to declare bankruptcy immediately after

[chrome basalt]

@full rune how often do you play?

[ionic arch]

you knights hollow yet?

[full rune]

i play hollow knight daily

[heady iron]

daily absolute radiance until I'm happy (day 2275)

[marsh ibex]

|| well I think they’re implied to be real-ish? Who fucking knows atp||

[opaque sigil]

Seems like|| it’s to wipe it out, he even has a dossier for zero’s assassination so his stuff about keeping enough chronos for him was a lie||

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-dark-souls-hollow-why-sad-gif-21913222

[tidal ruin]

||they do seem really out of place in what, other than chronos, is a decently realistic setting. I do think they're real though, since the soldiers that could have been hallucinations also kill you when you pick the silver mask||

[oblique musk]

You're gonna be able to beat her radiant every single time by the time you're done.

[opaque sigil]

it could go either way really

[ionic arch]

"play"

is this all just a game to you

[formal marsh]

daily absrad until i relapse into my alcoholism

[ionic arch]

(yes)

[full rune]

l;KFJDAO;SEIFHJAPOSE8RUY93

[ionic arch]

thank you. exactly the reaction I was looking for. This will sustain me for another month!

[tidal ruin]

||though its also possibly you kill all the police after picking gold and just black out||

[heady iron]

guys should I mod consort radahn into hollow knight'

[ionic arch]

always a pleasure chat

[marsh ibex]

this is the first time I’ve seen you keyboard smash

is this rizz

[opaque sigil]

they don't have to actually do that necessarily though, ||giving in could accelerate withdrawal symptoms or something and then hallucinating getting shot... basically is similar to actually getting shot from zero's perspective||

[oblique musk]

The phrase "it's just a game" is such a weak mindset. You are ok with what happened, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after losing, you've lost twice

There's always something important to learn, and always room for improvement, never settle

[oblique musk]

Yes.

[ionic arch]

is the phrase "it's just a game" just a game to you?

[opaque sigil]

also it goes without saying but chronos withdrawal has gotta be one of the most horrifying things

[tidal ruin]

||they also mention drugging zero's tea, which would mean they're real, but there's also the chance that was just a dream or sleep paralysis||

[marsh ibex]

yeah that shit has to be a tweaking experience

[opaque sigil]

yeeeeah that's kinda the issue

[ionic arch]

also lmao don't try to chad my shitposts, idk what that's about... smh my damn head h...

[oblique musk]

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

[opaque sigil]

||anyone they interact with other than zero or the girl (who might also be fake) is dead and even they might not be real, unreliable narrator moment||

[heady iron]

should he be bigger

[tidal ruin]

judging based on the rare moments we see zero misses his "medication" yeah it would be horrifying

[oblique musk]

It's a tweet from Tyler Ninja Fortnite Blevins.

[ionic arch]

is maybe just it is a game it isn't to you?

[opaque sigil]

||V describes what happens, time slows and slows until you just experience eternal agony||

[oblique musk]

No, he's about the right size proportionally. I think he needs some horns on his body tho

[ionic arch]

tweet? wtf? like a bird?

[tidal ruin]

Oh yeah, ||he gave chronos to the neighbor and forced them to go through it||

thats insanely fucked

[opaque sigil]

it really is

[oblique musk]

Meaning this in the best way possible, this sounds like an X:RA quote.

[ionic arch]

bird named "ninja fortnite"... what a world

[ionic arch]

I don't know what this is either, I'm old as dirt

hope y'all have a nice day though

[spare fractal]

hiii suswave!

[ionic arch]

patoo greet

[glossy berry]

slight delay but like

• unclear, kinda ties into the second bit
• ||this is kinda the number one point of community speculation lol. major arguments range from
  • she is real
  • she's a hallucination
  • manifestation of Zero's guilt/shame from all the child killings
  • therapists daughter
  • conglomeration of a few of these points||
• ||we dont know what the computer was or did, just that the government wanted it gone and zero complied||
• ||the psychotherapist is heavily implied to just be an arm of the government, not that zero knows that. he's a contracted killer, with his therapist being the front-facing part of it all. just a pawn under his bosses and all, trying to dismantle and hide the NULL scheme||

[tidal ruin]

one more question (also might be a who knows moment):
||was our therapist the one who originally gave us chronos, or is he just our current supplier?||

[formal marsh]

can you all stop talking about katana zero
i need my second monitor broadcast to be readable

[ionic arch]

oh hell yeah are we Katana Zeroing?

[ionic arch]

cast? broadly? like fishing line? you're out there fishing with two monitors?

[opaque sigil]

zero ||would've originally got it as part of the null program, probably from leon or whatever, therapist is just current supplier after the war||

[formal marsh]

what do you want me to do? fish with a single monitor?

[ionic arch]

smh... just be with the creek

the original "play" "station"

[ionic arch]

good point that's unfair of me

[tidal ruin]

ah I see, because ||if he had been the original supplier the last crashout would be double justified since he started it for zero specifically. Even then, though, he still lied and fed him chronos daily, which is enough already||

[heady iron]

but near the end doesn't zero ||YOU FELL FOR IT FOOL! THUNDER CROSS SPLIT ATTACK!||

[glossy berry]

||distinction of null classes are important too tbf. zero, being a gamma null, has been on CHRONOS consistently since early childhood||

[opaque sigil]

of course

[tidal ruin]

||oh yeah, different null soldiers do show off different abilities don't they? I wonder if it's related to amount/frequency of the drug, a different version of the drug, or something else entirely||

[shell yacht]

I feel like it's been a decade since I fell for this

[spare fractal]

If you wanted to read, couldn't you just look for a random book?

[opaque sigil]

I will say ||her appearing in the dream before in person makes me think it's more likely she's a hallucination, although it's also possible that it wasn't really her he saw in the dream just some generic like child silhouette she happens to match (though obviously the neighbor didn't have a kid and all that too)||

[formal marsh]

second monitor content!

[opaque sigil]

the drug affects them the same

[tidal ruin]

All fun and games until the book cuts off abrup||SPOILER TAG SPOILER TAG SPOILER TAG||

[ionic arch]

get it in book form before the show

solved

[opaque sigil]

||degrees are different depending on class as was mentioned but chronos is chronos||

||nulls do have different weapons and training though||

[formal marsh]

well that took a while

[tidal ruin]

||fifteen is shown to have some quick slash type ability though, which I assume he got from chronos||

[opaque sigil]

That’s probably not from the drug

[glossy berry]

||my current crackhead theory is that zero saw the therapist's young daughter, and basically just attached that hallucination and manifestation of innocence and guilt to that form

i think shes a real person in the sense that his therapist has a daughter, just that the version we see is a symbolic representation of that innocence, rather than the person||

[coarse leaf]

[ornate gazelle]

What is this about?

[ionic arch]

I love exercising with a cool skeleton personal trainer who is also my best friend

looks like y'all had fun

[opaque sigil]

In one of ||the sessions zero can ask the therapist about the powers and he’s pretty clear that everything but the perception of time is training and skill||

[glossy berry]

||not from chronos no

gamma null like Fifteen and Zero are consistently more powerful because they undergo constant and rigorous training from an incredibly young age - honing skills, rather than being fed a different drug. its likely they have a higher dose and all, based on zero's increased precognition over headhunter, but the drug works the same for anyone who takes it. zero is just a killer from birth||

[coarse leaf]

I don't know

[tidal ruin]

||how did she bring zero V's tape if she wasn't real? It's possible that it was already there, and he had some massive blackout. This would be kinda far-fetched though, but on the other hand how would V have known the girl knew zero?||

this is the first time I've done my own digging on a game without just using a lore video, sorry for all these walls

[ornate gazelle]

Who is zero

[glossy berry]

katana. zero

from hit video game of the same name

[opaque sigil]

Tbf I also ||think zero’s predisposition might be a bit exaggerated? Like it does seem like he has a conscience he’s just been groomed to be a killer||

[ornate gazelle]

I seee

Is the game worth

[ionic arch]

I thought katana was the doctor and zero was the monster

[opaque sigil]

||I think it’s more likely it was in the room, why would V give it to the kid anyways||

[glossy berry]

oh 100% yes i couldnt agree more
||abundantly clear that his therapist is just trying to keep him a useful asset and not a person lol, especially given hes next on the chopping block of targets. he clearly isnt emotionless||

[ornate gazelle]

I’ll wait for the summer sale ig

[glossy berry]

||more a general thing but do any other characters - v included - reference the girl outright at all? tragedy and comedy aside given their esoteric nature, so to speak||

[opaque sigil]

I don’t think so

[tidal ruin]

||I think that more comes down to player choice, seeing at the end you have the opportunity to either say "I enjoy killing" or "I am forced to kill to stay alive"||

[opaque sigil]

I replayed recently and I think I would’ve noticed if there was any clear reference

[opaque sigil]

You don’t actually

[glossy berry]

you do not have that choice no it is made for you ^^

[opaque sigil]

If you pick the ||’I don’t enjoy killing’ options it will override you||

[ionic arch]

y'all are making me want to replay this even before the DLC comes out

[tidal ruin]

||Therapist acknowledges zero describing her to him, but thats all I got||

[tidal ruin]

I didn't even notice that

[opaque sigil]

I think you could also argue that doesn't really speak to his nature and is more a chronos thing

like ||the headhunter says something similar, it's the only time they feel alive||

[tidal ruin]

could be a direct symptom of chronos, I mean it degrades your mind already

[opaque sigil]

it's also ||a combat drug, if they could induce some sort of dopamine hit when you kill they would||

[tidal ruin]

||could even be intentional, so that people forced to become null soldiers lose the will to disobey when they don't want to kill people||

[glossy berry]

the way i see it, ||a large amount of the idea of "donning the mask of death" is closer to ego death; sacrificing that innocence and burden of guilt, not just the physical sacrifice of a life

if you buy into her being a hallucination, leaving the girl to "die" [read: stop his guilt being a factor in limiting himself] by wearing the mask is just a way for zero to buy into the persona of being nothing but a psychopathic murderer, and not a person.||

[opaque sigil]

they even sort of say as much

||comedy and tragedy||

[glossy berry]

mhm mhm

by reaching the ending of katana zero, and ||not letting yourself die at the hands of police, you do play directly into the hands of their whole scheme and stuff

still not sold on whether theyre actually real||

[opaque sigil]

it's sort of hard to imagine they are tbh

[tidal ruin]

wait, so ||if you're killed by injury (like how zero dies in the silver mask ending) would that cause immediate death and not the eternity chronos brings?||

[glossy berry]

so real though lmao i love the game
conversations like this that make me wanna go through stuff over and over for the sake of it

cant wait for that dlc

[opaque sigil]

||I'm not sure, I'd sort of be inclined to think the latter since it's still in your system and you'd just be reliving the precog forever||

[tidal ruin]

I think games that leave some questions unanswered have become one of my favorite types of games

[opaque sigil]

sort of like the leadup to the kissyface fight (was that his name)

[tidal ruin]

oh yeah

[opaque sigil]

though headhunter does call the fight a like test of will, maybe you could give up and it would just end

||zero obviously has control of when his visions stop because he can lock them in whenever he wants||

[tidal ruin]

that would even ||make multiple endings canon, zero could just keep choosing the silver mask over and over until he can't take the infinite cycle of death and chooses to live||

[opaque sigil]

well

there he's also sorta starting withdrawal isnt' he)

[glossy berry]

i think id disagree
||heavily implied based on the mask of life, and headhunter letting you kill her, that accepting death can lead to that true finality lol

you dont actually die during the precog thing, its just testing routes and ways of doing things til you decide on one - hence the stylisting choice of playing it back like a tape when youre done||

[opaque sigil]

yeah I know

what I'm saying is idk if you'd ever even ||get to the real thing|| but yeah given headhunter's stuff probably not

[lone crown]

Crazy silksong spoilers

[tidal ruin]

man being a null soldier would make me go insane on the spot

[glossy berry]

my favourite part of silksong is when zero was there yeah

[opaque sigil]

chronos, not even once

[lone crown]

The weirdo smash player?

[tidal ruin]

||especially if the eternal death is garunteed||

eternity is my worst fear

[marsh ibex]

it’s also a limited supply so you’re doubly fucked

[tidal ruin]

immortality would be a horrible superpower

[glossy berry]

true though
absolutely hellish fate tbh even just ||a single dose of chronos can do that to you, especially based on zero's neighbours fate yeah||

[opaque sigil]

this is substantially worse than immortality

[marsh ibex]

neighbours

[opaque sigil]

tbf they were probably not just one hit

||electrohead seemed.... fine? he did some but it seems like it left his system, V probably had them on a LOT and also didn't let them get sober||

[spare fractal]

you know, there's something that I've been thinking about for a while
are most people in this server judgemental over what games other people play?

[fiery burrow]

what game

[opaque sigil]

katana zero

[marsh ibex]

seriously? no

But blah blah irony poisoning idrc what games you play unless it’s scuffed shit

[tidal ruin]

I'll judge you for games you don't play

[shell yacht]

If you acknowledge the existence of dark souls 2 you are the devil

[marsh ibex]

I can’t judge anyone for playing gachas for example

[marsh ibex]

I’m also an addict

[glossy berry]

true
irregardless though, thats gotta be up there in the worst things to happen to a person; death could not be more merciful comparably

[tidal ruin]

actually I'll heavily judge someone for playing no mercy

[opaque sigil]

absolutely

[marsh ibex]

only time I’ll judge you is if I give criticisms for a game and you start calling me a hater blah blah

[opaque sigil]

I'm just saying if you do one hit and never touch it again so long as you don't die that night you're probably ok

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-den-o-momotaros-gif-25006447

[shell yacht]

We lost joker

[spare fractal]

many different games

[marsh ibex]

I relapsed

[shell yacht]

What is this supposed to convey

[marsh ibex]

dokkan called me like the goblin mask

[cunning geode]

its me the devil

[opaque sigil]

still definitely would NOT fuck with chronos

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-gif-14141276552966470862

[glossy berry]

i really dont think they are no its chill

people argue and are ironic and all that jazz but it's nice round here ngl
minimal judgement

[tidal ruin]

I'll take my second worst fear of ||being locked in an industrial oven|| (spoiler because I think its really scary) over that

[opaque sigil]

at least that would be over relatively fast

[marsh ibex]

you see that would suck but I can only imagine that one fnaf meme

“Michael!!!! Don’t leave me in here with them. Michael!!!”

[umbral ether]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-vhs-don't-leave-me-here-michael-gif-7188870127616980889

[glossy berry]

at least that would be over in any capacity

perpetual torment is entirely incomparable to any physical harm of death i think, regardless of time or damage

[sly root]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fortnite-dance-godzilla-godzilla-fortnite-griddy-gif-10708625140076943253

[fervent nebula]

Good bye sleep

[marsh ibex]

bro imagine taking chronos and drowning

[opaque sigil]

I don't want to

[spare fractal]

A few games in particular I like seem to be very divisive whenever someone brings them up here

and that worries me

[marsh ibex]

that shit would be horrid

[tidal ruin]

I don't think I'd be able to last a minute, let alone eternity
which would make it so much worse, since once its in your system there is no escape

[marsh ibex]

drowning already an ass way to go

[umbral ether]

which games?

[marsh ibex]

terraria

[glossy berry]

you could have the most violent, slow and grisly death happen and i'd still take that millions of times over chronos

infinity is literally not on any measurable scale of torment

[marsh ibex]

sorry tweaked out

[opaque sigil]

the only not terrible way to go on chronos would be being firmly unconscious

[eager creek]

I almost drowned once. Fun time, really

[fervent nebula]

Never played lol

[spare fractal]

see what I mean?

[marsh ibex]

no one judges anyone for playing terraria seriously

people just voice their dislike for the game cuz they’re allowed to

[tidal ruin]

no matter how many times you have the worst death imaginable, it will eventually end
this might be a heavy topic for hollow knight discord

[tidal ruin]

I love the game but it does have some very large flaws

[marsh ibex]

half the time I bring it up as a joke and the other half is for devious purposes

[sly root]

sliksongs

[fervent nebula]

Yea it's only when it's in a Terraria fan reddit or something is it newtons 1st law of assholery

[tidal ruin]

I will not judge anyone for liking or disliking terraria, or almost any other game

[marsh ibex]

Like I’m not going to make fun of someone for loving the game but I do not like it and most of the time when I say I don’t fw it people go “did you try calamity?” And it annoys me

[fiery burrow]

I only judge people who like P3

[marsh ibex]

mods usually don’t heavily change a game they just make more of what people liked

[spare fractal]

Pantheon 3 or Portal 3? One of them isn't even real...

[fervent nebula]

P3? Persona or like-

[marsh ibex]

unlike my glorious best video game of all time Bubsy 3D unparalleled even in today’s modern society

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/persona3-persona-fans-gif-23153715

[tidal ruin]

I'm surprised I got into it in the first place, my biggest issue with it is how little the game does to introduce you to the game
you have one guide npc, and if he manages to die before you get valid housing for himyou're on your own (unless you use google)

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bubsy-3d-gif-9474478376989762357

[glossy berry]

yeah no persona is the one exception to my no judgement policy people Will make fun of you and you have it coming

[fiery burrow]

You can just do random stuff in classic mode for Terraria and be okay

[fervent nebula]

Ok but disturbing the peace look into my eyes is a banger no matter what

[fiery burrow]

The soundtrack is fine

[marsh ibex]

Even then the guide didn’t particularly help me aside from crafting recipes, their hints felt really obtuse

this type of stuff is normal for these types of games but with terraria it felt worse because a lot of it was centered around boss content

[tidal ruin]

I'm not at your school

[fiery burrow]

I also don't actually dislike persona fans

[steep finch]

IK

[fervent nebula]

Is it bad I want to see this stupid virtual cat die

[marsh ibex]

bro who are you

[steep finch]

I was just saying.

[marsh ibex]

Genuinely

albedo ahh pfp

[opaque sigil]

there are plenty of american criminal organizations

[fervent nebula]

OMNITRIX

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ultimatrix-ben-10-gif-2360807553302545491

[tidal ruin]

In older versions they had a whole tutorial, didn't explain the whole game but did give you a much better start than "Chop down a tree!!"

[marsh ibex]

Blud made the ultimatrix

[tidal ruin]

no clue why it was removed

[fervent nebula]

It started when a alien device did it what did

[swift sand]

if you make a clone with your exact personality and characteristics and they commit a crime should you also be held responsible

[marsh ibex]

yeah

[fiery burrow]

No

[glossy berry]

nah

[marsh ibex]

they should because it’s not time yet for people to make homunculi

[tidal ruin]

fuck man you can't ask me this kinda question

[marsh ibex]

that’s 20 years down the road

[swift sand]

but if they committed the crime and they are exactly like you that would mean that you would have committed that crime in that situation

[fervent nebula]

And stuck it self upon its wrist with secrets that it hid

[tidal ruin]

depends on the context of the kill I suppose

[shell yacht]

Minecraft tutorial:

[glossy berry]

society has degraded we need to bring back paracelsus-age homunculus recipes tbh

[trim estuary]

No

[marsh ibex]

paracelsus was a hack

[tidal ruin]

I want those back too

[trim estuary]

The moment there were two of you, you became two different people

[fervent nebula]

Now he's got super powers he's no ordinary kid Ben 10

[swift sand]

the skong-addicts have decided, you aren't liable for a crime a clone committed

[shell yacht]

It's still kind of exists, you just have to find the tutorial map and load it up. Which is not easy to find if you don't know to look for it

[swift sand]

time to return to the mithrix grind in my moist moss cave in eastern russia byee

[tidal ruin]

I also don't think they exist for modern versions, but older tutorials will still work to teach you all the game mechanics

they will just miss some features is all

[fervent nebula]

Unless you made it do it

[glossy berry]

i think terraria's really leaned into its reputation as a wiki game over the years and i cant say i love that no, you're right

its one of my favourite games out there but if a new player needs 10 tabs open on a second monitor to understand whats going on you have a problem

[tidal ruin]

should I play stardew valley

[shell yacht]

No

[tidal ruin]

I downloaded the game and got confused then stopped playing it

[fervent nebula]

Yes for krobus

[opaque sigil]

stardew valley is ok, if it's your kind of game give it a shot

[shell yacht]

Play atomicrops instead

It's like stardew with guns

[glossy berry]

oh love that guy hes so fucking weird

[formal marsh]

i love the fact you can live with him

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/fmab-gif-22907223

[spare fractal]

Hey, that's the guy from Stardew Valley my sister talked to me about!

[fervent nebula]

More like he lives with you

[main helm]

whats with my homies dissing my girl

why do they gotta front

[glossy berry]

i looove stardew valley

[spare fractal]

hey lune do you judge other people based on what videogames they play?

[glossy berry]

normal playerbase

[formal marsh]

to an extent, but i try not to

i dont like FNF so i joked about it when you mentioned it but i dont judge you for playing it

[tidal ruin]

I love playing hollow knight: the game

[fervent nebula]

...did you post this also the character looks like the beyblade guy

[formal marsh]

but if you said your favorite games were FNF, roblox and, idk, brawl stars, i would be judging you because all those point to a bad(?) niche

would still be wrong of me, i know that

[glossy berry]

this is not my post no dont worry
not that criminally insane lmao

just not the first spontaneous time ive seen someone do this

[tidal ruin]

I've said it before, I know of only one game that I actually will hate on someone for playing

[fervent nebula]

Reminds me of adventure time

[marsh ibex]

This has been a long time coming

I will face reveal

[shell yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793128374213279776/1301702044586872842/ThatsItGetInTheWoodChipper-1.gif

[tidal ruin]

its justified I swear

[formal marsh]

havent you done that

[shell yacht]

Terraria_screenshot.png

[marsh ibex]

yes I was a window alt the whole time

[lone crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784107545119686676/1361752160290869512/Screen_Recording_2025-04-15_at_12.56.49_PM-2.gif

[spare fractal]

well, that's relieving to know
I almost got worried you were being serious

[marsh ibex]

I apologize to you all for lying

[formal marsh]

dont worry about it

[fervent nebula]

What about cookie run, cup head, and minecraft

[lone crown]

New nightreign character is literally me

[spare fractal]

WINDOW!!! IT'S SO GOOD TO KNOW IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG!

[formal marsh]

those dont point to anything specific theyre just three kind of random games

[lone crown]

You scared me man I thought window was actually here til i checked the reply

[spare fractal]

You're really good at pretending to be serious and ocassionally kinda mean!

[marsh ibex]

thanks

[marsh ibex]

You like yuri

[fervent nebula]

I

[spare fractal]

seriously though sorry if I offended you by saying that, joker

[formal marsh]

holy shi t

[marsh ibex]

idc

[marsh ibex]

necro didn’t watch it so you have to

watch it

[formal marsh]

youre on the path to overthinking everything
that is not a path you want to go down

[fervent nebula]

Who

[marsh ibex]

anyways do you guys want some good news?

[glossy berry]

you click this video and your recommended is fucked for life

[marsh ibex]

it’s about avatar!

[formal marsh]

yeah

[marsh ibex]

https://fixupx.com/DiscussAvatar/status/1911873008936812669

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[formal marsh]

oh then not really

[marsh ibex]

Too late and you’ve been trolled

[formal marsh]

my recommended has been fucked for years

[fervent nebula]

Her hairs too long imo

[formal marsh]

i dont know who this character or this person are

[marsh ibex]

bro is not the reader

[glossy berry]

what the fuck man

[opaque sigil]

surely actors never cut their hair or wear wigs for roles that don't match what hairstyle they currently have

[fervent nebula]

Bro Did not fucking ask so why are you answering

[formal marsh]

would you shave yourself bald

[opaque sigil]

if they paid me enough

[marsh ibex]

honestly hair is the least of their issues “gotta make toph a lil older and a bit more feminine, humanize her since she’s a cartoon”

[glossy berry]

everybody knows that kids and non-feminine women dont exist joker wdym

[marsh ibex]

deadass what is the point of adaptations getting rid of the entire point of the original

[opaque sigil]

aging characters up for a live action adaptation is hardly unreasonable

[formal marsh]

you'd be paid 5 dollars and a cool pebble

[rapid abyss]

I read this quote and hated it icl

[fervent nebula]

God at least it's better then the movie

[marsh ibex]

well yeah that’s gonna happen because it’s live action and they’ll age a lot between seasons

[rapid abyss]

One of tophs main character points was being younger and hating it

[formal marsh]

makeup makes people look weirdly young its scary to me

[rapid abyss]

But ig logistics are logistics

[spare fractal]

I know overthinking things is a bad idea, but how else am I supposed to avoid making a mistake because I spoke before thinking?

[rapid abyss]

Does it?

[fervent nebula]

Yea what next are they gonna make her not blind

[formal marsh]

the wednesday girl is like an adult and thats crazy to think about

[marsh ibex]

It’s just such a weird ass comment to make about toph

[rapid abyss]

…dear God they are arent they

[spare fractal]

It already happened before in this channel, and I don't want it to happen again.

[formal marsh]

well i dont know because im an overthinker and extremely anxious

[rapid abyss]

Actually its not like im EVER gonna watch a live action atla sooo idc

[fervent nebula]

Maybe we should make someone black while we're at it

[formal marsh]

crazy

girl is older than me and in the show manages to look like a child

[shell yacht]

Have you seen the girl who plays in The last of Us

[formal marsh]

who plays who

[shell yacht]

She's like 24 and she looks 13

[rapid abyss]

I could get behind black aang though

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/tlouhq-the-last-of-us-tlou-o-ultimo-de-nos-bella-ramsey-gif-27360634

[fervent nebula]

Black zuko

[rapid abyss]

I genuinely cant with that casting its so bad im sorry

[formal marsh]

no like whats the characters name

i havent watched TLOU

[rapid abyss]

Ehh wouldnt be as cool

[shell yacht]

I'm having a brain fart

[rapid abyss]

Ellie i think

[shell yacht]

I cannot remember anybody's name

[spare fractal]

well I don't know either because I am too...

[marsh ibex]

Say excuse me

[formal marsh]

why did they change her hair

[marsh ibex]

All must bald

[brittle garnet]

99% of overthinkers quit right before the thing they predicted comes true

[formal marsh]

oh yeah she also nails the child look

[rapid abyss]

All the scenes where shes supposed to be tough

[formal marsh]

i used to think that child actors would lose their niche when they grow up but it doesnt seem like it LOL

[shell yacht]

100% of overthinkers win the argument after it happened

[brittle garnet]

before it happened, even

[fervent nebula]

Yea what are they fonna do next are they gonna "oh we're gonna do the final fight scene off screen to avoid violence" or maybe "this show is cancelled because not every character is happy and it's not all sunshines and rainbows" I hate IRL demakes

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/lyanna-mormont-game-of-thrones-boss-lady-queen-stare-gif-12195020

[brittle garnet]

if it's a netflix show, netflix is kinda infamous for overwriting source material with new "ideas"

[rapid abyss]

I would never watch a live action remake of something i love im sorry