#sk-discussion
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the knight originates from hallownest still, zote doesn't
Beware the jealousy of fathers
Mothers will always betray you
mods someone just deleted my gif
how do you know maybe he has bad memory
which was explained by them escaping the abyss and returning to hallownest after being called back
because zote knows his dad
how do you know
that’s a baseless assertion to make
and leaving hallownest makes you forget everything iirc
will silksong have daddy issues
because quirrel
It doesn’t
it doesn’t
the knight has emotional repression and quirrel has a mask that was protecting him from losing his sapience, instead he just lost his memories
i do think hornet will at least mention her parents tbh
because he’s bald
zote forgot that he was getting killed by the vengfly king, when we rescue him he's all like 'i had the situation under control' even though he clearly didnt
Maybe
Hornet already resolved her daddy issues
I though Monommons mask made him forget
this is a joke, but i hope silksong does elaborate a bit on Hornet's relation to the pale king and how being his daughter affects her
no cuz silksong is a stand-alone game
I’m not gonna engage with you lol
this is due to a condition called 'being an asshole'
have fun
why not just not reply to him then
reminds me of that one bit in fairly oddparents
could be forgetfulness
I’m tired boss
i mean does that prevent mentioning anything from the first game
i dont think it does
and I feel like crap
no, it doesnt
No
Mr mushroom will return
have a nap
It doesn’t and we know the sequel will go into her past
we do?
I mean we'd assume she gets some power from her parentage and thatll be touched on
Hornet and pk don’t have a relationship
the fatigue isn’t because I got poor sleep it’s because shit happened
is opengl out yet
have a nap anyways
and I don’t think she cares about him like she cares about her mom
I have no idea what opengl is
PK was effectively a donor parent for her lol
your donor parent is some random god
did vespa really train hornet
i mean how does being a demigod affect hornet. what was passed down from that
methinks she’ll meet one of the weavers who raised her
She didn’t
I think thats not canon anymore
no they just played video games all day
which is sad because vespa was cool as hell
what the fuck
Hive was closed off from Hallownest at large
To exercise my hk lore, Herrah having a child was part of the deal of her becoming a dreamer ye?
yep
yeah
they said they were GONNA put it in the game but didnt
is vespa useless now
The real question
Does herrah even know hornet's name
yes
hopefully she gave her name
didnt she name her
yes
she cant even say her name
has the memory gone is she feeling numb
kinda like that ant queen from hunter x hunter
vespa got her number 1 bum hive knight to protect the best thing in the hive 'hiveblood'
god I fucking hate the hive
i mean Hornet says "we were permitted little time together" not "i didn't even know her"
she never actually says her name ingame but that’s pretty common
we never actually get told Hornet’s name in dialogue either
it atleast looks cool
true
what if her real name is the gendered child 
hornets just called that by the narrator god, she in canon has no name
Hi Barn.
its the most visually appealing area close to crystal peaks, the 3d parrallax scrolling effect shines in the hive
hi jay
her real name is Steve...
I dont like how the hive looks that much
oh im sorry for being a pest
its a beehive
hive is ugly
its her last name
Terraria…
its got hexagons
She should say "I..... AM STEVE" in SilkSong.
actually characters get mentioned by name pretty rarely. I think only nailmasters mention each other by name, right?
Yeah bees tend to do that
who would win between the broken vessel and hornet
horn “the gendered child” et
zote, a knight of great renown
no
who else says his name? I meant by other characters
Hornet.
yeah it’s kinda just a thing
You should play schedule 1 with me
And like, easily at that.
zote, a knight of great renown
Hive is one of the prettiest areas
Conrinfier is mentioned by his wife
what are the prettiest areas
Hornet "the gendered child" Silksong
Marissa, a songstress of some renown.
No need to introduce yourself to somebody who can't actually engage in conversation
Crystal peaks and city of tears
id say queens gardens, crystal peak and white palace
city of tears, crystal peaks, queens gardens
i will always have a soft spot for greenpath, thats what hooked me to the game
crystal peaks .
the music makes their vibe even BETTER
yeah so that's like 2 instances
Crystal peak for the most part is very packed
city of tears lags terribly terribly
royal waterways is beautifully constructed architecturally, as is white palace
true and I also think queens gardens just looks like greenpath but nicer
honestly so does city
the way the little mask birds fly away from you will never get old
Deepnest peak music
look me dead in the eyes and say you enjoy royal waterways aesthetically
hallownestian architecture is just kinda dope
halloweenstian
aesthetically it’s gross as hell and I fw it heavy
true but why do their elevators have spikes on top 😭
but I also like the pipe maze aesthetic it has going for it
Hive is gorgeous
standin on business
open elevator shafts with spikes on top of the elevators they did NOT have osha
to find any stray vessels (TK)
stops pigeons from landing on it
Wait do people not like how the hive looks?
Hi Astro.
I don't get what you mean, we don't get to see almost any architecture from white palace, it's just levels for gameplay only
hi jayson
city of tears probably had hostile anti homeless architecture
How many handrails are in hallownest
I honestly think Hive looks very good.
ok
look at the outside of it
levels that take place where
You have to pay for most benches
if too many people sleep on elevators it takes up the people limit
Literally look at the bridge outside of it
Trying to keep poor people out
you can look at the outside, the elevators, the bench design, room design, how the walls look constructed etc
Look at how tasteful these fences are
In white backgrounds or inside some halls
that’s all design
Ima say this right now… there is not a single bad designed/looking place in hollow knight even royal waterways just has a gross theme but is so detailed with that disgustingness that it looks great
actually blind
I think saying anyone who cannot climb is bettee.
thats a cool ass palace
i dont think you should be tasting sewer fences pengu
Do you know how expensive mantis claws are in this economy
There is t a single bad looking location in this game
I forgot about godhome it looks pretty nice
You basically look at that image for 5 seconds ingame
🤓 ☝️
You do realize halls have architectural design as well right
and it looks awesome
Almost none, specially compared to all of the other areas in the game
i dont think you can beat this
its nice but the music has like droning IBS noises
this is very nice in a different way
White palace, crystal peak, fog canyon
That's very nice
i made a little collage of that screen
Waterways theme is just like a violin or cello right
Awesome
Too low to be a violin
ONCE AGAIN there are no bad looking areas, royal waterways allows itself to look gross and the disgustingness is so detailed throughout the area that it still looks great
I cant hear it over those gurgling assholes
also like ivenever knew the answer to this but can PK just put entire areas in someguys jead
yuh
Also fog canyon and hive still look better
Only the fluke areas look disgusting, it's pretty clean for the most part
I dont like fog canyon or hive better aesthetically tbh
yeah
it’s more like he put the entrance in one of his creation’s head but yeah
i have sentimental attachment to greenpath 🤭
The game explains that as well
you can't beat this
Hollow knight fucking sucks?
I love deepnest
I have a sentimental attachment to crystal peak it looks so cool
Beautiful ambient noise, lovely walls
Meal for later
wtf were they doing
so if the guy dies it still exists?
I hate deepest but it also does the creepy aspect perfectly
if any of them has a tummy grumble like a few minutes earlier the game ends
well it’s already dead
Even the fluke areas, do u see how much detail is put into the disgusting fluke guts and muk with shit everywhere
oh right 
Filth has never had this much detail
Yes
dung defender area looks like poo
It is poo
Am I the only one who's a little fed up with all this secrecy?
:(
They call it a what?
Yes
shitpost account of a dev is shitposting and you’re expecting something out of it
yes, you're mad at shit you're making up
what the fuck does that mean william pellen
concept of a half confirmed for silksong
Wait isn't it either a mule or a hinny depending on the parents sex
horsies confirmed for silksong
jockey..
neuron activated
You're sounding a little cranky, you should permanently calcify your pineal gland for a good night's rest!
qs rs ss ts us vs ws xs ys zs
Just try your best not to wake up at 4AM sharp
but are you a different animal, AND the same beast?
Only God knows. At first it was fun, but now it's annoying that they're bothering me with the date, and on top of that it seems like it's coming out in September, or four months later.
yeah im not agreeing with you I was quoting a funny ad featuring kobe bryant and kanye west
I hope silksong doesn’t come out in early June exactly cuz I wanna play deltarune chapter 3 and 4 at that time as well and I don’t wanna be overwhelmed with multiple games
youtube links are allowed here right
Kobe Bryant & Kanye West "Kobe System Commercial!" (Part 3) WTF Are You Talking About Kobe Bryant
I love this ad so much
Hopefully silksong comes out late June or even later
I would spread misinformation rn about the release date, but the mods would get mad
That account is completely unaffiliated with Silksong
Curse of June 12 buddy
they aren't bothering you with the date you're just making things up to be mad about
what the fuck does that mean sanat nans
literally staring at a Rorschach blot and then getting mad because you think it's baiting you with silksong
who is they?
wdym it seems like it’s coming out in september
June 12? That’s perfect, deltarune is June 6 so that’s def more than enough time to finish the 2 chapters and indulge in the community before silksong
his account has nothing to do with silksong stop expecting shit from it
God forbid people shit post nowadays
mr information pissed rn
Is it misinformation if I'm always right
😬
mfs will read "4AM sharp the heros piss" and think its related to the unreleased bug game.
silksong release date drop it right now
No that makes you miss information
soapi can you just not
No.... canceled....
@subtle lynx got me earlier with a fake release date lol so I’m not falling for it again
:(
god i wish another mod was here so I don’t have to do this
dont worry Ill @ the mods and theyll come
The glorious Powdered Water
clicking the mod role on my profile:
Hey
Hollow knight silksong is releasing on
ps4, ps5 xbox pc and switch/2
Dude, the mods will warn you for spreading misinformation
Omg he got silenced
Censored
Blover for you buddy
1984 or something I havent read it
farenheit 451 or something i never read it
jorjorwell
Animal farm or something I never read it
Fuck but that was a not seven a real day on the calendar
i get eaten by the wyrms...
and weird insects 😭
In death we shall all find the embrace of the worms
stfu and play along we gotta make it seem like a dystopia in here
I read actually, it was shit
picked over by the wyrms
and weird insects
i was literally just fucking listening to weird fishes what the fuck
Yea uhh what’s your fav colour
great expectations, wuthering heights, 1984, farenheit 451: 🥱 😴
1000 page hornet x lace ao3 fanfic:
now i have to learn how shaders work along with linear algebra, matrix multiplication and all that evil
💔
😴
i am literally lsitenjng to IR rn
when's silksong releasing
i think thats a ninja
2025 :D
🔥🔥🔥

2025 probably maybe summer hopefully speculation
I would tell you, but I would get warned
we hope before september :D
Lmfao
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
because theres an event :D
Im a June believer
june or july would be neat
Summer would be perfect man
what if instead of sgf it was ssf
blue mustache
gmcb
good morning cornerboost
what does this mean
Good morning cu- corner boost
what does that mean
For me it would
If it comes out in late June ima crash out cuz I got exams
april 29th
Want me to ping mods?
Mods just really hate fake release dates
If u want
im gonna bet the whole universe at June
im mocking you
U edited the msg afterwards to have quotations
Earlier it didn’t have them
bro beated da false knight
MAJOR NEWS ON THE 15TH
MAJOR... MAJOR
Hopefully July
it’s june 2025
Let’s ping the mods and tell them this news
theres major news on the 15th
Sources?
Saw it on Family Guy
me im william pellen
Sources x2
💀
wait no not july cus i already bet the universe PLEASE DONT LET THE UNIVERSE DISAPPEAR BEFORE SILKSONG
Be careful lol misinformation rly isn't appreciated here
my powers of prophecy
its real
they all mocked me for saying the truth
It’s just I’m busy af that time so it would suck if silksong released then rather then the next month (July) when im free
i see
William told me at the bar that it’s releasing sometime within the next decade
lend thy wisdom o senator armstrong anakin deez skywalker of the mountains
guys! Silksong will have a crossover with the Minecraft Movie!
major news on 15th april
Cool, William it’s bed time
no its 2pm
i am the prophet of silk, and i foresee the coming of silksong in june, 3 days after the summer solstice, bless the coming of Silk and Song
then i shall do another bet for the entier multiverse for July
Yes perform an oath in front of the almighty gods themselves
Silksong will have 1,020,560 new types of blades of grass
Exactly
It’s kind of like Enotria’s build system
Designed to be fun
Celeste tech
Tbh I have a lot of hope but not as much as 2 years ago with the Xbox release date which ended up not being true
So I think we should control our expectations a little bit to not be disappointed if it doesn’t happen
that was 2 years ago?! i still remember it freshly upon my mind
Silk Prophet
Yea since the pandemic started in 2020 time lowkey hasn’t felt the same
What’s Silksong?
It’s when you play music with silk
my brain has literally undergone some change due to the pandemic
and also i think we should really not expect too much for the game to be perfect as we think it should be
cus almost 5 years of waiting pumped up our expectations
Bless the coming and going of Silk and Song, hallowed be its name
I’m expecting it to be better than Hollow Knight (bar is in hell)
Even though I have no doubt that silksong will be better than the original hollow knight
We shouldn’t expect 10/10, perfect 6 years worth of gameplay
i think i'll still enjoy it! it is at the very least hollow knight, and then some more
i hope its not like my experience with will of the wisps. i prefer the first ori game a lot more
That’s for sure
Right now I'm pumped for the quest system
I am expecting it to be a very good game after all the wait at least. Like a 9/10 or something
oh no, considering that we are now Hornet (2x the height of the knight) it's gonna be even worse if it still exists in the game
The map will prob be almost twice as big as hallownest, the amount of content is gonna be way more than hollow knight has rn even with the 4 major updates
And imagine silksong updates similar to godmaster
Where we can play all silksong bosses in an area
what still exists in the game?
hell yes
I hope that’s more of a release thing tbh
Yea we’ll prob get all that stuff on launch but hopefully we get some extra content updates yk
oh wait nvm, i misread what you just said, i was refering to the flying insect that shoots triple orange goo stuffs
i forgot the name
oh the primal aspid
yeh
What do y’all think will come out after silksong
there will be some variant of it for sure. or maybe there will be a new annoying enemy type
Will we play as a new character in a whole new game in the hollow knight series
A new TC IP
8 years later team cherry will start development on a third unrelated game
lace (gay)
Bug fixes
that's my guess
Imagine a “hollow knight trilogy” of games with the og hollow knight, silksong and a third one
HK VR
Zoteboat…
i think team cherry has had enough of the franchise
I suppose a duology is good enough ig
id genuinely like something like zoteboat or quirrelsquirrel though
A hk trilogy would be so badass tho
Quirrelsquirrel 🤢
Zoteboat

quirrel hater
A quirrel prequel game for the third game in the hk franchise and the final one
Would be so cool to wrap up the hollow knight trilogy
Boon cooking game
that interesting. what about we get to see what hallownest was under Radiance's rule
Chronologically it would be: quirrel prequel, og hollow knight, silksong
nah, please let these bugs rest
find a new animal
We can let these bugs rest in peace
After a COMPLETE TRILOGY
Radiance never ruled Hallownest unless you count the infection
A duology is good enough tbh
We could tell future generations: “I remember the hollow knight trilogy was the best trilogy of games ever”
We always have maskbearer
those future generations will be the ones playing the 3rd one
Team cherry isn’t immortal lmao
then no one gets a trilogy
we all will be dead
Yea
Are you sure?
you mean do anything else during the next 10 years until a new game comes out you like
By then even One Piece would be finished. That's how massive a timeframe 2035 is
I mean live my life like normal for 10 years but still be interested in the hollow knight franchise
also the world will be very different
one piece is never finishing silly
After 10 years ill prob not care anymore
Never watched it
honestly a good thing....
and that series has been only 5 years from finishing for the last 5 years
that is true. im just really enjoying the state One Piece is currently in
If one piece ends the world explodes
Elbaf, greater war, void century, whatever tf is going on with the moon, blackbeard, dragon, imu, etc
it’s never finishing
please spoiler tag that here
I'll be vouching for the remake bc im not watching those 1.2k eps
damn bruh
no tags no nothing out of courtesy?
this is actually true
what’s a spoiler there
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMON
i mean yeah, i guess its not really a spoiler, just a collection of terms
these are all things that have been around for years with no actual story
GOSAUR
out of curiosity how long have you been reading/watching one piece
if anything i’m saying how we DONT have spoilers for that because no one knows anything
a long time
gotcha. i only started last year and im almost caught up
im back from editing my video, did i miss something
aaah
who’s your favorite character
im omw to finishing regular show, im on the final season
they had a discusion of apes vs monkeys
Robin! A very important character whose dreams align with what I enjoy most of One Piece (i.e. its history and worldbuilding)
iiinteresting
lol, there’s such a lack of news that silksong discussion has become the default general channel
nice pic, mine is Law
i mean, all of this could be in silksong for all we know /s
Another good and interesting character!
mines buggy those who know 😎
Deutsche sind cool
crazy cause rn I'm in history class and my teacher is talking about germans
yes that’s how it’s been for over 6 years now. that’s not a new thing
hahahah
don’t say that
it’s never been funny kid
you monster
What's wrong with you
She's a criminal on the loose she is already the villain
hornet just locks the egg temple from the outside and walks away
Slopes of Suffering is some BS
ok but whats wrong with it
Calling the police on you
it should work in theory. Although you won't get the brown flavor you would with an oven. Maybe add some salt too btw
ngl I think at the end of silksong they should reveal the hollow knight in pantheon 5 ending
no
ikt's more like steamed potatoes than baked
why Germans?
wonder which ending is canon in silksong
id also like the void to be elaborated upon further
sealed siblings 🧌
Team Cherey being sheepish on the HK ending is bit lame in my opinion
Nazi joke kill this buffoon
no real reason for it to be elaborated on as of right now
i too prefer a true ending but oh well
true, id just like it to be a recurring thing from hk
are they sheepish or are they just leaving it ambiguous
one that is from Hallownest
why did those bugs worship the void anyway
ngl an ancient civilization would actually go so well
and only affects Hallownest
tasted good
same reason anyone worships anything
not necessarily
it'll be so lame
that travel to dead kingdoms when the lantern is ignited there
Grimm Troupe is more or less explained anyway it'd just be retreading old ground
jojoker can you link the bug breaking seal video
they don’t really go there for leisure
the void isn’t sentient unlike deities in traditional worship
?tag info jokerpsa
https://youtube.com/clip/UgzlVc4LM4J6_DfuscZ4AaABCQ
No ending stops Hornet from being captured, and the ability to break seals with bugs from Pharloom makes Hornet being locked in the Black Egg not an issue. Dreamers also don’t die when sealed, we simply didn’t have the means to remove them without killing them.
30 seconds · Clipped by Kingdom Killer · Original video "Hollow Knight: Silksong Gameplay - Nintendo Treehouse: Live | E3 2019" by Nintendo of America
they’re just theatre kids
void is sentient in some regard
oh its a tag
sorry
you are right on that gah
guess i cant have my dreams come true
gah
gah 👻
sentient in and of itself? power without will is what i assumed it was back in ancient days
it’s like worshipping water
this had to be mentioned twice today, it must be spicy
Blud said
void, power, without unity
oh
pk was simply wrong on the nature of void
Hey man water deserves to be worshipped
this is awkward
guys keep going with this debate 🍿 😎
Can’t wait to see how donkey Kong handles the void
i thought those consciousness were imprinted onto it
Who started this Hornet and Lace shipping ? I can't escape it and I need answer
but at base it’s plain nothing
how are we supposed to know
this is the first time I'm hearing about this 🤔
i support it
multiple people
It can have consciousnesses imprinted onto it like with the kingsmoulds
Malleable substance after all
People who wanted affirmation for their own self through their favorite game
I just thought some people, especially people who support this shipping know
Not a bad thing
there’s no real way to know that
Guys is graig still a banana please confirm
People do it all the time in other ways
there’s someone out there who just found lace and hornet today and started shipping them
shipping is power without unity
oh shit
that was pretty good
Lacenet is peak though
Hornace better
The fact that so many people gravitate towards it is proof that its canon
ik I keep sending this chat but 🔥
no
disney and pixar owe TC a fat bag
My favorite ship is Cornifender
Cornifer x Life Ender?
mender
And Pure Master
my favorite ship is quirrel and me
bender fendr
millibelle and my nail
theseus
more budget for silksong lets go
that money is going straight into their croissant allowance
does fate exist in hk
whar
no
PK had an oedipus thing going on
Oedipus?
He had relations with his mother?
i know
Never heard of him 
the context of how he got there
Wasn't it that he was prophesized to kill his dad and marry his mom so he ran away from the kingdom which led to a sequence of events that ended in him killing his dad and marrying his mom?
That’s wild
oedipus was told about his fate and the very steps he took to avoid it made it happen
peak fiction

big worm go wander then cocoon then big kingdom
PK saw the future and tried to avoid the fate but it still lead to the fate he wanted to avoid
I think PK was different, in that the steps he took to avoid the infection didn't make it happen, and it would have happened regardless.
That’s a crazy thing to reply with in response to that 
The same can be said about Odin and Ragnarok
i have a question chat
state your question peasent
Go on
don't be shy
do we get same skills as hallownest in silksong or we have to begin from new with no skills such as the knight
You probably should’ve chosen literally any other person who attempted to circumvent their fate until they met it
the latter
"all hearing"ahh
It seems like we lose almost everything
that’s true, it’s ambiguous what exactly PK saw
start off fresh and gain new skills
it could still be fatalism vs outright determinism
I mean hornet isn't void so most likely won't have the same abilities as the knight
i think PK saw… a big yummy smoothie
I mean, the only indication that PK foresaw the infection is a single line from a dead mushroom, which does't really allow for much elaboration.
no you didn't understand
when we played hollow knight we hadn't any skill but with silksong idk if we get same skills or we have to capture them
Oedipus and Odin have their fates caused by trying to avoid it
PK is a fight against the fall of his kingdom, although all things fall to time
We will begin the game with almost no skills, other than our bind ability and our needle. Everything else we will need to acquire (or re-acquire) throughout the course of the game.
Fatalism is no matter what steps u take, it leads to the same fate while Determism is everything is completely set in stone
i don’t think it’s the latter but i think it could be the former
long before time 
yeah but we begin with the skills we saw in first hollow knight right
when we used to fight hornet
We do not. As I said, we start the game with nothing, and must get those skills back.
and enlightenment is when you realize the roses smell better if you dont think fate is determined
ohhh okay
guys these kids keep screaming chicken jockey at me what does it mean
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science says determinism is true
sorta
nuh uh, quantum superpositions contain true randomness
nerd
that’s not actually 100% true
we getting in another heated debate with this one 🔥
fun fact
Dork
dummy
Whatever, maggot.
stand ready for my arrival, worm
No profanity
powdered imma ping mods on you
You worm
Bell’s theorem allows for superdeterminism or randomness, people just go with the latter because it allows for free will
no one understands the reference 😔
I vaguely remember something proving that we have all the information that is possible whenever an atom is in a superposition state, but I forgot if that was enough to prove if it's actually random
Worngs aemageddon
These are my least offensive (joke) insults 
conk west
does free will exist (it does)
what's free will? I've been doing labour for 12 years
Free labour
Are you sure?
it’s either absolute determinism and no free will or indeterminism(randomness) with free will
Does pk have foresight or is he a big fat liar
Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke. We are all pawns, controlled by something greater:
Gambling
northernlion
he doesnt have a forehead no
🥹
Memes, the DNA of the soul.
there is no free will fools
Clearly not good enough foresight if he does have it
stop the cope

No cost too great, however
Pretty sure. Threw a trash bag. Into space. At work.
😨 y-y-y-yikes!!
my rebuttal to that is as follows:
thats lame
Foresight is an innate ability of wyrms according to Bardoon
I am so lonely I am a victim of my sucess
that’s an emotional argument
could mean that he was aware of the cost
he has foresight, bardoon notes it is a wyrm ability
no its more than that
no it isn’t
its genuinely lame and unambitious and giving up to say there is no free will
GAMBLING
we are all the pieces that decide where the next pieces fall into place
did he lose it after metaphorosis maybe
any new silksong news
those are all ideological responses not grounded in what is true
how do yall keep finding a way to start debates
why would he
No. It's drought time again.
edith, the issue was he foresaw his demise
tomorrow for SHAW
no matter what
the only thing he presumably lost was his massive size
saying free will exists because it’s lame not to is a pure philosophical response
exactly
do wyrms even have organs, like, it looks pretty empty from inside.
i’m talking about science
Has this always said preorder
not philosophy
Yeah, PK isn't massive anymore. You know what is still massive?
no matter what action the pale king took there was no beating the radiance, they foresaw their loss and death. they desperately tried ANYTHING
All the links are purple 
so we’re having two different discussions
yeah let me just preorder silksong 💔
N-No don't say it
it’s a philosophy debate idk what you expected when you started it
but free will scientifically does not exist
i mean i paid for it
We only go into a tiny portion of his Wyrm body.
u do with that what u will, which u are
Bc I entered them. Just google it like I did and ull see
I believe it was Kant who said "Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play."
science says so
sigh
yeah, dont you understand? me right because i am
it’s not about me
cite your sources
okay? sources?
No there's no reason to
quantum phenomena is either deterministic or random, there is no free will in either
i know there is scientific literature on this, yes i understand the whole thing about determinism when you get down to individual particles
source
the source is him
not to mention neuroscience
all you said were big words
study physics
where is the scientific documentation proving this
Mario exhibits experience by crushing turts all day, but he exhibits theory by saying "Let's-a go!" Keep it up, baby!
in your physics classes
that i can read, scrutinise and understanf of this
the idea of arguing about free will is stupid, like, ????????
my question is do you consider "will" simply the sum of its parts. why is human will something you believe is predetermined?
Prove to me that the tiny little electrons didn't choose to be random and silly today
free will ?
Science in math in my hollow knight server…
sorry but i didnt get taught quantum phenomena in secondary(
guys I hope your keeping in mind this is a VIDEO GAME SERVER
yeah i dont make decisions actually its all predetermined nothing matters 
free will does not exist
???
Okay and you're in an off-topic channel who cares
we are a slave to our own body and mind
bro only discusses video games
so i'd rather have a source, stating it and explaining it
because all im hearing is "science says free will doesnt exist, isnt that so creepy omg the unfeeling universe and everything is fated and sad omg"
lame. thats lame.
honestly better then talking about science, you guys are way off
philosophy is lame, no point in arguing about it.........
again, no sources said either. just big words and if you dont believe it look yourself
another emotional response, how we feel about reality doesn’t change reality
ACTUALLY IT DOES!
WHERE DO I BEGIN TO LOOK IN QUANTUM PHENOMENA
no it doesn’t
If you aren't interested in a conversation don't partake in it
are we real ?
because how you feel affects your WILL
It does
silksong is realer than i am.
no it doesn’t
i fw this
im not, I'm just saying I would rather conserve in something related to this channel
Bro thinks he knows everything and doesn't know about the human phenomenon 
ah we are arguing chemical reactions and synapses
u feel like u don’t wanna be bothered by gravity today, start flying and get back to me
thats not what i said
I like science
i’ll change my mind
the body all the time has imbalances in certain hormones and chemicals, synapses often sometimes misfire
if you're in a perfect simulation of reality but outside you're in a liquid filled bubble is the world to you real
Science is stupid
which affect how you feel
?tag info offtopic
#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.
ok Pikachu, how about you show me your philosophy degree
what is there to talk about lol
reading comprehension devil
Yo obeying gravity is just not having free will, idiots unlock your mind
true
Interesting
Idk maybe silksong which is related to this channel
wrd
a chainsaw man reference in my silksong discussion?
physical reality does not change based on how we feel sillies
True freedom doesn’t exist silly goose, true freedom would suck
go talk abt it in hk disc or smth they’re not doing anything important
zamn
what would you like to talk about regarding silksong
we’re doing something important
The reading comprehension devil is very strong in this server
silksong cancelled devil going strong
release date
You haven't said a single silksong related thing you're just trying to shut down a conversation for no reason
reality is the way it is, that’s all
we've covered every topic possible several times over if you wanna suggest something we're all ears
we dont have one
Tomorrow
its coming this year, I hope before september
Sure it does
but we are biological beings that do and will, people who have experienced more stress in their lives die shorter lifespans
i do agree that raiding is a severe devil.
i mean no thats not true at all but sure
release date
that’s a non falsifiable idea
what i actually said was "how we feel impacts our wills" but go off i guess
the frick is falsifiable
the matrix
No one is saying how you feel changes the laws of physics, can you read
That is repeated every day
Any idea that can be proven false.
or a coma I guess
silksong will release
oh really u can feel like being cold when in hot weather and make it drop 40 degrees?
neat
u guys have superpowers
yes :D
who is bro fighting
hell yes
ever heard of... placebo?
pretty sure there's servers dedicated to science
i shoot lighting bolts from my finger tip
its tested for a reason...
idk
hi
ur talking about ur perception, i’m talking about physical reality
im tryna discuss with you you just said the phrase "release date"
Are you under the impression that you can only discuss science in science servers
DISCUSS WITH ME
what people are you fighting my man what
has anyone said that your emotions impact the laws of physics are you just inventing arguments now
i appreciate how grim has moved on from listening entirely
I FUCKING LOVE DISCUSSING
anyways
I really don't care if you guys are arguing about science, I just see it as odd
hey there stranger
im gonna drink my coffee
science > silksong
wrong!
Average lore user that doesn't want their head cannon to be disproved
what did i miss there are so many people talking at once
yet that perception can change your reality, you're gravely ill? well some people have literally gone against the grain on deathly illnesses as they had strong belief their placebo pills would be life saving and saved themself through will. altering their physicality
something about silksong i think
uh huh
that is what they are saying, u might be missing context
placebo, hysterical strength, etc
yes uh uh
AND NOTHING IS PREDETERMINED
Like that idiot who said PK doesn't need to eat or something
And? Each of us will never be able to see actual, physical reality. We will only see our own perception of it. To each individual person, their perception of reality is reality, or it may as well be.
dude what doo you want to talk about regarding the release date when do you think its coming out
ITS ALL CHANGE RAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
hey i mean it is a hefty debate i just really dont like the direction it went
Oh I'm back from my short wikipedia dive and this is still the topic of conversation
I like change
I also like change sometimes
science isn’t head canon silly
if anyone was a true person of chance they'd know free will is very much real as everything is chance
You know taking a course on the interpretations of QM sounds interesting now but honestly I don't know how that would help me in the future at all
our very conceptual existence was chance
whats qm
Quantum mechanics
You see you've already lost because I've imagined you as the guy with a cannon on his head and me as the guy with a giant wrinkly brain
quantum mechanics isnt something you take for your future you take it because its fucking awesome
the concepts of our physics was chance, theoretically proven by how in previous universes it is very much understood that a lot of things were different
you’ve lost the plot
Gambling proves free will
And you never had it.
They'll help you in internet arguments which is top priority
Well I'm studying physics so not really I guess
if a tree falls in a forest with nobody to see it does it make a sound
you’re talking meta, i’m talking science and observation
Clearly not
the entire argument is just that
Cannons don't go on the head
reality is a simulation of course not
ur throwing non falsifiable philosophical ideas at me like it matters in the context of science
a tree falling down is absolutely falsifiable
Damn found the redditor
i know what you’re saying but that’s a different argument
Superdeterminism is a non-falsifiable theory in of itself though isn't it
what the fuck are these words
It took you this long?
Look I just woke up and I don't have breakfast in me yet
i’m talking to Summer squad
Im doing my maths homework for uni and this is bigger nerd shit than that
LOL
That's like 47 people good luck
Yes, which makes all this talk of "non falsifiable philosophical ideas" doubly hilarious.
all quantum interpretations are
when did we get on quantum
that’s how we started
Not really to the extent that superdeterminism is, I think
msushi is back what the devils
I must have joined too late
The portal guy?
i'll just chime in again to remind chat my original point was its lame to think we as humans dont have free will because then you develop complacency and the earth doesnt need human complacency anymore
gotta go to science class very ironic cya
they're arguing that free will doesnt exist by taking science too literally
who says free will doesnt exist
No the raw fish ontop of rice
so again, an emotional response not grounded in physical reality
basically they think they're a prententious smarty pants as they did quantum science and we didnt
BUDDY leave me alone
The redditor from r/iamverysmart
im gonna do quantum science
reading is tough
HOLLY crap you're right
guys telling me something isn’t right because u don’t like it doesn’t make it not right
what if its just wrong
okay yeah true though i really dont see where the argument against this is
if youre trying to science your way out of taking accountability for your own existence thats a you problem lmao
wheat I haven't eaten anything today and I'm stuck in class for the next 1.5 hours. Don't put the idea of food in my head.
thats whats crazy
Reading comprehension devil strikes again
you dont need to do quantum science to understand free will IS real
are you literate sorry thats a whole different sentence
free will may not exist, why would i care
"Erm I only care about the science 🤓 "
because you need to understand the definition of free will
That actually helps
Guys this is what the average lore conversation feels like are you having fun yet
and how would science stop the literal definition of free will
I gotta go back to where free will didnt exist
wombat said not believing in free will is lame
lore geeks are massive fucking nerds
i loooove microdosing #hk-lore
i never opened and will never open any lore channels
it is
okay, what does that have to do with what’s true
it is a pessimistic ideal that is ultimately defeatist and nihilistic
skibidi
both can co exist
skibidi
can u give me the quick slideshow of why u dont think free will exists I missed everything
1600th 30 minute long debate about whether hornet is void
No one is denying that you are just incapable of comprehending sentences
science doesn't say that at all that's not really a scientific question whatsoever
something about quantum phenomena in physics
luckily that one has a solid answer
"is the knight hollow" for the ten millionth time in a month
it does
Im saying something intentionally phrased controversially to incentivize people to react and rage bait
how is there a debate...
Let me break it down for you,
The question of whether free will exists is one of the most enduring and hotly debated topics in philosophy and related fields like psychology and neuroscience. There isn't a definitive answer that is universally accepted, and the debate continues to this day.
Here's a breakdown of the different perspectives and arguments involved:
What is Free Will?
At its core, free will is the capacity of agents to make choices unconstrained by prior events or external forces. It implies that individuals have genuine control over their thoughts and actions and could have chosen to do otherwise.
Arguments for Free Will:
Subjective Experience: Many people have a strong intuitive sense of freedom. We feel like we are making conscious choices and directing our actions. The feeling of deliberation and the ability to reflect on different options seem to support the idea of free will.
Moral Responsibility: Our legal and ethical systems are largely based on the premise that individuals are responsible for their actions. Concepts like praise, blame, reward, and punishment assume that people freely choose their behavior.
Arguments Against Free Will (Determinism):
Causal Determinism: This view holds that every event, including human actions, is causally determined by prior events and the laws of nature. In this framework, our choices are simply the inevitable outcome of a long chain of cause and effect stretching back to the beginning of the universe.
As of today, April 14, 2025, there is no scientific or philosophical consensus on whether free will exists. It remains a complex and fascinating question with significant implications for our understanding of ourselves and the world around us. While our subjective experience strongly suggests we have free will.he brain, the universe, and the nature of consciousness.
