sk-discussion

[harsh yarrow]

IDK

[atomic sparrow]

i want to take a look at it
i will not contribute in anyway tho

[rocky flicker]

hornet bonks her head :(

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah thats what I want to avoid

[rocky flicker]

I also volunteer to do that

[harsh yarrow]

Using the magical technology of the Z axis

(Hornet and the Knight explore through different tunnels)

[rocky flicker]

im a 2d being I literally cannot comprehend the z axis

[harsh yarrow]

Only converging on certain areas

[lone crown]

Frontward-facing elder baldur

[rocky flicker]

do u guys think seconds are like integers for 4d beings

this is important to the silksong lore

[smoky nebula]

You have 5 minutes

[livid tree]

uhhhhhh

i thought 4d would just mean you can like

[harsh yarrow]

Wouldnt be cannon to the offical storyline though, because thats boring

[livid tree]

walk into another axis not on this plane

[harsh yarrow]

Because Hornet needs progression, and you might as well borrow parts of it from Silksong

[rocky flicker]

yeah that axis is time

[livid tree]

oh

[rocky flicker]

think about an axis where as you move along the 3d environment ages

thats the 4th axis

[smoky nebula]

We already do that

[livid tree]

well are things like a tesseract existing in time

[rocky flicker]

yeah but we stuck in one point on the axis at all times we cant move along it of our own will

[lone crown]

TESSERACT? WHERE

[rocky flicker]

its like how 2d beings are at one point on the 3rd axis

[livid tree]

wdym by integer

like they can move along time how they please?

[rocky flicker]

we like integers as the nice numbers that dont have gross decimals

[livid tree]

surely thats logically impossible

[sharp agate]

How tf is Team Berry made of only 4 1/2 people? This game is too beautiful

[rocky flicker]

decimals are milliseconds seconds are integers

[livid tree]

berry

[livid tree]

i dont get it

[lilac gyro]

I am the half person

[sharp agate]

Ty for your contribution. Its a beautiful game

[woeful matrix]

(i have no fucking clue what you are saying)

[lilac gyro]

You’re welcome, will still not make me feel like releasing it rn

[rocky flicker]

ok so like you guys know how we measure stuff in metres, and 1 metre and 3 metres are integer values where 2.5 and 5.5 arent integers

[woeful matrix]

nah WE use feet and inches

all of us

[smoky nebula]

Honestly they'd probably use longer scales

[rocky flicker]

if you were a 4d being the measurement would be in seconds, with 1 second and 3 seconds being integers and 2.5 and 5.5 seconds arent integers

[lilac gyro]

I uses arms and walkes

[lone crown]

You know what its my fault for opening the reddit

[rocky flicker]

what did they do

[woeful matrix]

thats an interesting idea

[smoky nebula]

Like if you can freely move along time you'd probably do hours as your smallest whole unit

[oblique musk]

I mean, we can represent both 2.5 and 5.5 meters as integer values. 250 and 550 cm

[woeful matrix]

is the 4th dimension time?

[rocky flicker]

Im going off the Si system

metres, kg, seconds

[oblique musk]

Yes, but we can’t move through it freely like the other 3.

[smoky nebula]

We need a better unit of systems for time

[rocky flicker]

nah seconds works in all the formulae well enough

I want silksongs final boss to be 4d

[smoky nebula]

The formulas work out just well
But it'd be nice if we had a system of time that was divisible by 10s

[lone crown]

Its the popular post rn

[woeful matrix]

so what are the 1-3 dimensions?
space?

[oblique musk]

Yes.

[woeful matrix]

cool

[rocky flicker]

top post of today is an e1331 wolf of wall street post

oh the body pillow

[lone crown]

Not that
But I’ll refrain from elaborating

[oblique musk]

I found this one, with the title lamenting that HK was “not woke enough”

[lone crown]

Not that either

[oblique musk]

Is it the ant queen post?

[lone crown]

Yes

[trim estuary]

Love how wrong this one is it’s so funny

[opaque sigil]

imagine being mad about gay fictional bugs

[rocky flicker]

I forgot cloth was gay

[trim estuary]

Isn’t her partner’s gender just ambiguous

Or no

[opaque sigil]

no reason to think it's even her partner

[lone crown]

There’s like two confirmed/implied gay couples and cloth isnt a part of any of em

[trim estuary]

Yeah she wants to reach her friend in the afterlife or something

[shell yacht]

Cloth is unknown and her friend is unknown

[oblique musk]

I just don’t understand it, when the Traitor’s Child and Z’emer were right there!

[opaque sigil]

the thing is they can't read

so when ze'mer's dialogue comes up they just go instantly into braindeath

[oblique musk]

I mean that happens to me too but like

[rocky flicker]

Nola

[shell yacht]

You're assuming any of them got far enough or completed flower quest

[trim estuary]

They got pure nail

[shell yacht]

Probably through debug

[opaque sigil]

I don't think they actually play the games anyways

it's probably just like ten seconds of googling

[oblique musk]

What rating do we think Silksong will get on the Woke Content Detector ™️?

[trim estuary]

They definitely played all of Super Lesbian Animal RPG

[rocky flicker]

depends on lace

[lone crown]

Hot take i dont like cloth

[oblique musk]

I mean, the main character being a woman might be enough for them

[lone crown]

Like very forgettable

[shell yacht]

/ban @lone crown lame

[trim estuary]

Yeah she replaced the male protagonist from the last game it’s woke

[rocky flicker]

WOKE silksong
lace is GAY hornet is a WOMAN

[charred pulsar]

[shell yacht]

Hi lurker

[trim estuary]

SIMO⁉️

[lone crown]

4AM sharp

[opaque sigil]

bigots shouldn't get to enjoy anything anyways

[lone crown]

The simo’s piss

[oblique musk]

Games that do that are never successful anyway

[lone crown]

@DestroyAllDemocrats

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[oblique musk]

I wonder what that guy’s life is like. I wonder if he actually played HK. I wonder if he genuinely means what he says.

[oblique musk]

hey andy

[rapid abyss]

Reporting for duty

[stable estuary]

Some stereotypes are not meant to be changed or forced to be changed

[oblique musk]

What does this mean

[unborn dome]

with their logic, if silksong is good then it’s not woke
if it’s bad then it’s not woke
it’s that simple

[stable estuary]

some people just like certain areas to stay the way they are or people to stay in their field. You can’t really fault them for it.

[opaque sigil]

yes I can

I can fault raging misogynists for crying the moment they see a female character do literally anything

they are bad people

[oblique musk]

Except they have given the title of “woke” to numerous games that received commercial and critical success. I think of Baldur’s Gate 3 for example, which is a very good, and very woke, game.

[serene chasm]

hi chat

what are we even talking aboot?

[stable estuary]

I think gaming does have a very big counter culture problem though. There’s this sect of nostalgia gooners that sees women with comic book bodies doing cool things in games and parades it around saying it’s what gamers want not understand it’s absolutely nothing to do with what made those games great in the first place.

[oblique musk]

Nothing of import.

[unborn dome]

damn

[oblique musk]

the hell did you say

[unborn dome]

“adult video” brained conservative gamers

[oblique musk]

Yeah that’ll do it

[lone crown]

I am genuinely dumbfounded

What the hell is on the right side of the map

[oblique musk]

You’re gonna need to be more specific. There’s a lot of things to be dumbfounded by.

[oblique musk]

Kingdom’s Edge

[lone crown]

Oh wait gotta add the new footage

[rocky flicker]

I am genuinely dumb

[stable estuary]

I am genuinely doomed

[opaque sigil]

if you want women to 'stay in their field' and get tilted whenever there's one as a protagonist you are a bad person

[harsh yarrow]

damn

what field am I staying in?

Can I stay in Engineering?

[serene chasm]

I hate that theyre trying to push bug protaganists on us

[opaque sigil]

not just a female protagonist but a female spider??? damn liberals

[rocky flicker]

a WHITE BUG protag? yeah thanks team cherry but Im good

[serene chasm]

I heard theyre are turning kids into spiders at schools

[stable estuary]

Female game devs up 21% since 2017.

[opaque sigil]

lace identifying hornet as a spider is interesting, it's probably not just a visual identification though

she doesn't exactly look like one so it must just be based on background info she has

[stable estuary]

Well just because you can’t see the extra legs doesn’t mean Lace can’t use anime sense to

[opaque sigil]

she doesn't have extra legs

[stable estuary]

She still moves like one, unless that’s an old or fake animation I saw.

[sharp agate]

Do we know if SS is a prequel or sequel??

[opaque sigil]

likely sequel

there's a power wipe before ss which makes no sense if it's a prequel, and hornet references the tools she had in hk in the forge daughter dialogue

it also doesn't really work timeline wise for it to be a prequel since weavers left hallownest very very recently

[sharp agate]

Mmmk good, i wanna change fate and save that poor Hollow Knight protagonist 😭 The ending was so sad

[opaque sigil]

that would suck

hk's ending is excellent and should absolutely be left as is

[sharp agate]

fair enough, it made me so sad

[stable estuary]

Protag got the short end of the stick but not the hollow knight

[slate wagon]

which one

[opaque sigil]

dnm

and thk/ss which are important as alternate paths yadda yadda

[serene chasm]

KIBBY!

[barren sequoia]

I dont like the all endings are cannon shit because dream no more is so good

I think it is the most fitting for hk as a story

[opaque sigil]

it is, it also doesn't have to be an exclusive canon ending for that to be true

[serene chasm]

Then thats how HK ended

At least for you

[opaque sigil]

and sealed siblings being a canon possibility is important because it cements tk's freedom of choice in that moment

[harsh yarrow]

Least not that we can see

Ari Gibson art moment

But her cloak is very obviously a Weavers cloak, or least inspired by

[opaque sigil]

the only spidery part of her body visually is her head but that's more herrah than spider in general

[harsh yarrow]

That could be another big tell, her shell is quite similar to that of the litteral queen of deepnest

[lone crown]

So much skong to sift through... and this is only like 10% done with organization

[harsh yarrow]

Which Im sure would have some notoriety to those who are involved with the Weavers

[lone crown]

Theres still a lot i have to alter

[harsh yarrow]

or knowledgable about them

[trim estuary]

Is this every other frame of both trailers and et cetera gameplay footage

[opaque sigil]

by the time they would've heard of herrah she was already dead

[lone crown]

At least one screenshot of every room/clip we have seen yes

[serene chasm]

absolute madlad

[lone crown]

I included literally everything not a single room is left out

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah, likely

[lone crown]

We already have some strong pointers for leftbound areas but im just dumbfounded cause other than stuff like far fields probably, I genuinely have no clue what's on the right half of the map

Greymoor definitely may extend to it

[serene chasm]

Looks awesome

[harsh yarrow]

I still like the idea that Hornet was likely raised by the Weavers in some capacity before they left for Pharloom, probably leaving Hornet behind accidentally or intentionally

If they were getting enslaved I guess it could've been a bit of a gamble, but better to let her remain in Hallownest and hopefully grow stronger before eventually coming to Pharloom

[lone crown]

My macbook air cannot handle this much skong 😭🙏

[harsh yarrow]

They least wanted to leave her with Weaversong, but they never got the chance

[opaque sigil]

hornet was never meant to leave hallownest the weavers left the charm as a gift of farewell

[serene chasm]

some asshole stole it

[harsh yarrow]

Im kinda going off of some ideas that Fool brought up

That Hornet was an intentional birth orcastrated by the Weavers to free them in pharloom

[lone crown]

Have a shitty zoom-out

[barren sequoia]

It might just be because of a gameplay reason but I feel like hornets skills in hk might kinda be against this

Shes not bad with using her silk sure but shes also not the greatest at it

Which if raised by the weavers would probably be more the opposite

[harsh yarrow]

Hornet uses silk quite adeptly, and uses gossamer storm which is very clearly a spell lol

[serene chasm]

ok. ss is gonna be fucking massive

[lone crown]

And there's definitely literally miles' worth of space between a lot of these rooms in-game due to Hornet speed

God

[barren sequoia]

Idk compared to the shit we see in ss her skills look awful

[harsh yarrow]

Certainly, its not as impressive

[barren sequoia]

It probably is just gameplay reasons

[opaque sigil]

She wasn’t

[lone crown]

To clarify, that was just my theory

[barren sequoia]

But the whole her having to learn new skills by the weavers I think will kinda prove they werent that involved in her upbringing

[harsh yarrow]

that I do quite like

[barren sequoia]

I believe in that theory as well fool

[opaque sigil]

No it doesn’t

[barren sequoia]

Weavers are certainly evil imo

[trim estuary]

Weavers can do no wrong

[opaque sigil]

And she’s regaining strength from weavers as edge states

[kindred pewter]

Weavers are the good people but get exploited for their silk

[barren sequoia]

Nuh uh bad people that get exploited for their silk

Because they believe in evil satan spider

[kindred pewter]

does that mean hornet is the main villain of the game???

[barren sequoia]

Giant evil weaver at the top of pharloom being contained by silk and song 100% confirmed by leth gibson

[opaque sigil]

If they orchestrated her birth to take her back to Pharloom they would’ve taken her when they went back to Pharloom

[harsh yarrow]

Consider though, Hornet could've been young, and not ready to face Pharloom

[opaque sigil]

She wasn’t

[slate wagon]

they left recently

[opaque sigil]

They left right before the game starts

[karmic sand]

Diddy

[opaque sigil]

And they left something for her that’s a song of farewell not a summons or whatever

[kindred pewter]

"You see batman, the reason why it's called silksong, is cause the evil weavers are exploited from the silk, and you beat enemies with the power of song. Silksong"

[harsh yarrow]

the games doesnt really seem to imply that they left right before the game starts, least to me

[opaque sigil]

It absolutely does

[trim estuary]

heh. their beasts' nature bare to all

[barren sequoia]

They probably knew hornet wouldn't leave or shouldn't leave before she solved her own issues in hallownest

[opaque sigil]

You literally see the last one out the door and all the abandoned ones are still children

[lone crown]

It goes basically like

She basically discovers the weaver culture as she progresses which she inherits as strength, my crackpot theory in specific is more about Deepnest wanting some type of pale child (Hornet) to serve as some prophecized saviour for the plight in Pharloom, Deepnest never really cared about Hallownest and considered themselves politically separate, I'm sure Hornet's purpose goes far beyond just overseeing a dead kingdom. I think Hornet's capture will lead her to her true pathing in life

[trim estuary]

why did they leave all the kids behind

[serene chasm]

Devil has horns. Hornet has horns! Wake the fuck up people! SS stands for Super Satan

[harsh yarrow]

All we see is one weaver that leaves after the start of the game, probably because they saw some weird little dude ransacking their home

[slate wagon]

they were lost causes

[harsh yarrow]

With most of them inside the den being long since dead

[gaunt shuttle]

if we get this (the first image) instead of the second in the final game i am going to DIE

[opaque sigil]

They were infected

[grizzled flint]

dante from leemur buss

[trim estuary]

oh yeah that makes sense

[lone crown]

I prefer the first one

[opaque sigil]

This is definitely not true

[serene chasm]

second image sucks

[lone crown]

Well no shit sherlock

[serene chasm]

mostly cause you got the worst quality image

[trim estuary]

i can't SEE in the second image
i do like the hotter colors in the second one more though

[lone crown]

I have stated it was just a crackpot theory like twice of course its not true

Its just temporary headcanon i have til' release

[opaque sigil]

Good crackpot theories are borderline plausible at least

[kindred pewter]

yes that's me

[barren sequoia]

We dont see like anything infected by the radiance grow do we? Like age wise

[harsh yarrow]

Fools theory is possible though

There is nothing in the game that suggests that it cant be the case

[barren sequoia]

I just always assumed the small weavers couldnt grow due to the infection

[coarse leaf]

It was never me

[barren sequoia]

So they were just babbies for however long

[opaque sigil]

Infected grow just fine

[lone crown]

But what part of anything I have said was contradictory?

[lone crown]

Even if it is a silly idea

[chilly nexus]

2nd image like a backlit gba outdoors

[barren sequoia]

I dont think there is gonna just be a good vs evil thing in ss, the weavers certainly have some shit going on

[opaque sigil]

Deepnest isn’t Pharloom affiliated, her purpose was to rule the place she was born in not Hallownest

[lone crown]

Yeah Deepnest isn't but the Weavers are

[chilly nexus]

there are a few different religious factions in SS, check out my lore doc!

[opaque sigil]

Hornet isn’t a weaver though

[harsh yarrow]

Weavers were likely involved in Hornets birth

[lone crown]

Never claimed that

[opaque sigil]

Wrong

Weavers had nothing to do with her birth

[barren sequoia]

I mean we genuinely have no fucking idea about this beyond yeah herrah husband died and decided to bang the pale king for an heir to her kingdom

[lone crown]

This is the part where my thing kinda crumbles

[barren sequoia]

There could've been so much between those events

So its fair to say silksong might have some shit going on about it

[opaque sigil]

Weavers didn’t intend for her to follow them or else weaversong wouldn’t be a song of farewell

[barren sequoia]

You cant say not true to a thing that isn't concrete and just a theory

[opaque sigil]

Yes I can

[cunning geode]

you know the drill

nothing happens in silksong

[harsh yarrow]

The question ends up being to me why they would leave Hornet behind

[opaque sigil]

Why would they take her

[opaque sigil]

She’s not one of them, she wants to stay, she has no reason to go

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232587540719206400/1120048556984782869/ghost1.gif

[barren sequoia]

Hornet wouldn't leave the kingdom no matter what

[trim estuary]

Are you sure

[harsh yarrow]

Shes the daughter of the pale king, probably has a decent capacity to use Soul by manipulating Silk, seems like good mage material if you ask me

[barren sequoia]

They could've asked at some point and we wouldn't know, and the weaver song is a final goodbye because they respected her decision

[harsh yarrow]

thats a good point

[lone crown]

Lore-geeks calling things impossible when godhome, aka bad writing central, is right there

(this is a joke)

[opaque sigil]

Godhome being shit has little bearing on everything else

[harsh yarrow]

Lore-geeks just calling everything wrong because???? /j

[barren sequoia]

Hornets entire thing is a dedication to deepnest and helping lay to rest the entire kingdom

Which is why I like to believe the weaver birth theory

Its such a contradiction to who hornet is

[lone crown]

I still cant believe they not only tried giving a boss rush area lore instead of something simple, but DOUBLED DOWN and gave Godseeker Mode lore 😭 😭 😭

[warped rock]

Well then we'd be out of a job without that

[opaque sigil]

Godseeker mode is fine

[lone crown]

It hurts my head because like

[harsh yarrow]

Hornet tasking herself in the protecting/preservation of Hallownest is interesting

[opaque sigil]

The only weird thing about gsm is EtV playing after

[harsh yarrow]

Im a bit curious as to why she does it

[lone crown]

Idk it just does

[barren sequoia]

I think its because of how all of pale kings children take that task

[oblique musk]

I think that can be chalked up to TC not being bothered to program a new ending to P5.

[harsh yarrow]

Hornets only reason to protect Hallownest is because her father was its founder, and I doubt she ever knew the Pale King while he was alive

[opaque sigil]

It’s chalked up to that being an alternative way to do godhome so it has to have the godhome content

But whatever it’s all in its head anyways so it’s probably just a memory

[barren sequoia]

I think its also due to her mother dying for it

Or being laid to an enternal rest

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah, thats my only guess there

[lone crown]

If we see a godseeker in pharloom im immediately throwing 500 pimpillos at it

[harsh yarrow]

But why defend the whole kingdom then? Just defend Deepnest

[south vigil]

bombs > any other method of dealing damage

[opaque sigil]

Because radiance is such a localized threat

[barren sequoia]

The main thing we never get is how hornet knows about so much right?

[opaque sigil]

That’s not really much of a mystery

[south vigil]

i mean she’s kinda been around for a while, she’s prolly just watched what happened

[harsh yarrow]

Hornet met with the White Lady, probably more than once

[oblique musk]

She's really old, and she clearly gets around. One would imagine she has learned a lot during her time in Hallownest.

[lone crown]

Imagine like other kingdoms out there watching Hallownest with binoculars like it's a social experiment where they believe they're the last and only civilization and they're like "god they're so insane"

[harsh yarrow]

Enough for the White Lady to grow somewhat fond of her

[barren sequoia]

We have kinda nothing about her upbringing but knowing about the whole crest and vessel thing is really deep into the whole conspiracy

[south vigil]

LMAO

[opaque sigil]

All wyrm kingdoms are probably sorta like that

Many if not most residents literally can’t leave

[lone crown]

Imagine if the beacon is straight up propaganda made to deter people from braving the wastes

[south vigil]

i wonder how many kingdoms just get crushed by random cats and stuff

[opaque sigil]

It’s not but some people think that

[barren sequoia]

Doesn't quirrel show some sort of cognitive decline outside the kingdom?

[lone crown]

No i think he's normal

[barren sequoia]

Ive never read the comic tbh

[lone crown]

I think?

Like he can talk, and fight, and eat

[opaque sigil]

He’s not

[lone crown]

He isn't?

[opaque sigil]

Regardless Quirrel is an abnormal case

[oblique musk]

It feels like it is real, though, since TK and Quirrel both lose their memories, and Boon seems to have less cognitive function than Tuk, despite both seemingly being the same species.

[opaque sigil]

He talks about the sand beating at his mind

[pulsar ether]

“Wow. These other kingdoms are so weird. Thank myself that I’m the only normal kingdom here.”

[lone crown]

Huh I should probably reread it

[stable estuary]

It’s a fan comic isn’t it

[barren sequoia]

No no its official

[lone crown]

No its real

[slate wagon]

i think TK just repressed its memories due to trauma

[opaque sigil]

TK doesn’t lose its memories from leaving, both Tuk and Boon are sapient beacon isn’t doing shit there

[lone crown]

I wonder where Boon went off to

[opaque sigil]

The real shit is Godseeker sensing it, the wp throne room tablet, and the corpse at the waste’s edge

[lone crown]

Guess we'll never know

[oblique musk]

Can't wait for Boon cameo in Silksong

[chilly nexus]

Link to lore doc in replied to message for those with a hankering for more!^

[lone crown]

Me when the best part of Godmaster is the two secret areas

[opaque sigil]

Land of storms is aesthetically neat but there’s not really much there

[barren sequoia]

The eternal ordeal

[lone crown]

Godtuner's Workshop is interesting imo

[opaque sigil]

It’s just the wastes

[lone crown]

Mostly because yay more wastes

I love the wastes

[opaque sigil]

Lifeblood room is a cool moment ig

[lone crown]

Cause it always makes me curious as to what's out there

And how bugs nagivate that shit

It's kinda scary

[opaque sigil]

It’s definitely not a safe hike

Though Hallownest is like way more dangerous

[lone crown]

Godseeker cowering in a cave too

[barren sequoia]

I do think like the beacons might act as some sort of possible light or attraction

The old saying moths to a flame sortve thing

[warped rock]

I like the wastes not really because of what it could have but because of how bleak it makes the world of hk. little specks of civilization all isolated from eachother

[gray parcel]

The life blood room highlights the flaws of the charm by the person who gives it to you being dead

[zinc pier]

I dislike it for that reason

bustling bug towns sound like they'd be cool to experience

[barren sequoia]

I think silksong might either make the world way more depressing or slightly better depending on who actually created pharloom

If pharloom is another wyrm created kingdom its fucked

[lone crown]

Likely won't happen but I'd like it if we could traverse a little bit of the wastes in Pharloom

Yeah yeah i know, empty, but i like worldbuilding

Let me see a bit of the kingdom outskirts

[gray parcel]

Honestly that would be so boring

[barren sequoia]

Their species being near extinction or extinct now really doesn't bode well for the world of hk if like all the major kingdoms are made by them

[opaque sigil]

Eh

[barren sequoia]

We've seen non wyrm kingdoms but nothing huge

[opaque sigil]

That’s wrong

[gray parcel]

I really hope TC goes in a better direction, makinh Farmloom completely separate from whatever the place in HK is

Hallow nest

[warped rock]

but if it's blackwyrm kingdom? 10 silkillion copies sold

[zinc pier]

pretty sure it is supposed to be

[barren sequoia]

We've just got the ancient kingdom so far right

[gray parcel]

I saw a theory the other day about how the wyrm in Kingdoms edge was the black wyrm 😭😭

[barren sequoia]

And the godseeker shit

[opaque sigil]

Which was way bigger than Hallownest and not a wyrm kingdom

[lone crown]

How lame would it be if every kingdom was wyrm-made

[opaque sigil]

Very but that’s definitely not true

[warped rock]

not too lame just gotta shift the focus from the royal stuff to something else

[lone crown]

Wonder who the king of Pharloom is

It's called a KINGDOM right

[opaque sigil]

Might be a theocracy or some shit

[livid tree]

well hungary had a kingdom with an admiral

[opaque sigil]

Killing theocrats is based

[lone crown]

Plot twist there is no king its all fake, just a fake government puppeteered by the WEAVERS

[barren sequoia]

Waz the ancient kingdom supposed to be bigger than hallownest

[warped rock]

Probably

[opaque sigil]

Definitely

[scarlet pivot]

silksong

[oblique musk]

As in, like, the gives-you-the-king's-brand Wyrm?

[gray parcel]

Yea

[warped rock]

well there's only one wyrm in kingdom's edge

[gray parcel]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GoGvhioXAAEc-kU.gif

[barren sequoia]

I do think it'd be cool to see a live wyrm of sorts if only to just see it

[gray parcel]

Aren’t there technically 2

[strange gulch]

Does anyone know where's the venue for ACMI? I might (probably not) be going there just for silk

[oblique musk]

If the theory was interpreting the Colosseum bug as a wyrm, then there would be 2.

[gray parcel]

That big guy is like a wyrm larva

[opaque sigil]

That’s wrong though

[gray parcel]

Or am I getting that wrong

[opaque sigil]

There’s only one wyrm around and that’s pk

[oblique musk]

Bardoon? No, he's not a Wyrm. He says as much himself, that he is "too small" and has "too many limbs".

[barren sequoia]

Does wyrm refer to like both forms of them?

[lone crown]

Colo bug definitely aint a wyrm, it’s more plausible saying that thing is fucking Bellbeast’s mother

[barren sequoia]

Do we even know if thats like a regular ass thing they do

[oblique musk]

It seems so, since PK is referred to as "Wyrm" by people who would never have seen his original body.

[gray parcel]

Ah, misremembered info 😭

[slate wagon]

bardoon implies it’s a normal thing for them to transform

[barren sequoia]

Okay yeah all wyrms do transform yeah

[warped rock]

bardoon says "i'm not big enough to be a wyrm" 😭

[heavy magnet]

and he's a big boy

[barren sequoia]

So I wonder if all wyrms are dead or just taken place in their more buglike forms

Because them being in their buglike form would also be pretty bad for the entire world as well

[lone crown]

Horses need to be in Silksong or im refunding

[slate wagon]

moss deer already exists

whats a deer but a fucked up horse

[barren sequoia]

With their size I feel like they were carving a lot of the world

[lone crown]

Not stylized bug equivalents or anything. I mean straight up Horse from Earth

[oblique musk]

There was some very good horse-related news today (or yesterday ig)

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-of-truth-horse-of-agreement-horse-horse-agree-agree-gif-12047072666965428527

[cunning geode]

a whale is a fucked up deer. a horse is just pretending to be a deer

[unborn dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224185061591748690/1246652690948161578/attachment.gif

[barren sequoia]

The Wyrm's corpse decaying. Endless. Rmm... Serene. Sad. With its like gone, the world is smaller."

This is what bardoon says about the cast of shell

[chilly crane]

Steeelights burn on through the car window

[barren sequoia]

I think it kinda leaves secondary forms of wyrms still being out there?

[barren sequoia]

Potentially

[chilly crane]

Whslisporrs at t the bus stop

[trim estuary]

did i hear deer

https://tenor.com/view/deer-fat-face-deer-funny-looking-deer-gif-8834458079555444425

[chilly crane]

I’ve heard about nights at the school yearxd

[warped rock]

thought that was the linkin park logo

[kindred pewter]

so THIS is the evil intimidating horse

[chilly crane]

I…… am the lion

[oblique musk]

No, this is the Opposing Horse.

[inland ravine]

@river thicket this you?

[river thicket]

no

[barren sequoia]

I do hope hornet has some wyrm capabilities in her

[oblique musk]

Not the first time Half Life and Linkin Park have been associated

[trim estuary]

Can’t wait for her to shed her shell and become a more than two pronged fork

[barren sequoia]

It'd be interesting if hornet does unlock some sort of foresight and how the hell that would be implemented story wise

I very much doubt it'll ever happen but fuck it

[trim estuary]

Could work like atium I guess

[barren sequoia]

The only game I've ever seen it done really well is katana 0

[warped rock]

i had a sort of half theory for how wyrm powers could work for the knight in hollow knight. so like every time you die and play again that's a future that the knight saw using foresight

[rustic ore]

"yeah, that can work"

https://tenor.com/view/katana-zero-gif-21783162

(this game is peak btw. play it if you havent)

[barren sequoia]

Could be tbh I just know canonically we dont ever die

The whole like shade shit is more in theory than anything else

Like yeah this is what will happen, doesn't mean it does though

[chilly crane]

Jar

[stable estuary]

Touhou Luna Nights did it pretty well.

[trim estuary]

Orange…

[analog forge]

god, discord wouldve made a fortune off this avatar decoration from this discord if it released like, 2 years ago

could you imagine, like, half the avatar decors in this chat wouldve been this

[tawdry valley]

You overestimate people’s willingness to buy nitro

[barren sequoia]

Never once had nitro

[analog forge]

you dont need nitro for the decoration, it just costs money.
also i said half the avatar decors would be this, not half the avatars

[cunning geode]

i have so much music to listen through

and even more is waiting for me to acquire

endless discovery

[shell bough]

hi chat

[cunning geode]

byeah

[viscid wind]

Is duke nukem 3D out yet

[sharp agate]

Im trying so hard to watch Lore vids for HK and this stuff is so hard to understand!?? I just wanna cuddle up and cry

[floral delta]

Unn is goddess who made da dudes in Greenpath

That's all I know

[coarse leaf]

Does anyone know of natsume yuujinchou ?

[sharp agate]

Who exactly is the Hornet frm SS? She evil?

[floral delta]

[viscid wind]

it's hornet from hollow knight why would she be evil

[floral delta]

Oh

[sharp agate]

Sorry my brain is fried rn, i played 12 hrs of HK

[floral delta]

Gg

[gray rapids]

is it bad that i dont know who lace is

[floral delta]

The raging Lesbian of Silksong

In all seriousness though she's the Hornet of Silksong

[gray rapids]

ah yes

except nicer im assuming

[floral delta]

Nicer how

[gray rapids]

not saying 'i know youll mess stuff up so im gonna kill you'

[slender rain]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-gif-10142735480136358490

[floral delta]

Heh

[carmine island]

I mean she still tries to kill hornet

[floral delta]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[slender rain]

D:

[gray rapids]

but in a kindness way right

[slender rain]

how-

[floral delta]

Look at the guy next to your name

Mayhaps that's why

[slender rain]

109%??
I am on 111% 🗿

[gray rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/grimm-get-grimmed-grimmed-hollow-knight-hollow-gif-26007572

[slender rain]

(still to beat pure vessel)

[slender rain]

...

[floral delta]

I'm focusing on Nine Sols

[slender rain]

is it a game? or what

[floral delta]

My guy

[gray rapids]

no mind to think

[gray rapids]

no will to break

[slender rain]

what D:

[strong trench]

Hi #sk-discussion chat!

[slender rain]

T-T

[gray rapids]

no voice to cry suffering

[floral delta]

It's a game, yes, imo harder than Hollow Knight

[slender rain]

abyss dialouge

[slender rain]

lemme search it up rq:D

[gray rapids]

this was more helpful than other things thank you

[floral delta]

-# Let's fucking go

[gray rapids]

hi

[strong trench]

hello

[gray rapids]

whats up

[slender rain]

ohhhh I have seen it before its sekiro+ uhh I forgot the plus one but yeah I have seen it:O

[strong trench]

Just chilling in my bed

I’m pretty cozy :)

[gray rapids]

me too

[slender rain]

same

[gray rapids]

:0000000000

[floral delta]

I wouldn't say I'm chilling, but I'm in bed too

[carmine island]

Persona 3 reference…

[slender rain]

'Hey gang it's me leth not muffin' 💀

[carmine island]

Oh lol my names still set to that

[gray rapids]

WAIT LETH??????

HIIIIII

[slender rain]

why theres ranbow behind hollow knight discord logo of the server?...

[floral delta]

Sigh...

[gray rapids]

gay

[carmine island]

There we go now it’s spelt right and correct

[slender rain]

💀

[gray rapids]

thats the reason

[slender rain]

real???

[floral delta]

[gray rapids]

#pride

[carmine island]

Yeah pride month

[floral delta]

Every month

[slender rain]

ahhhhhh my life
not in hollow knight please god ahhhn noooooo whyyyy

[gray rapids]

every month is pride month

[floral delta]

There's LGBTQ relationships in HK

[gray rapids]

what are you implying

[carmine island]

This guys gonna flip when he learns about the happy couple achievement

[slender rain]

NAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW MY LIFE 😭

[gray rapids]

because i dont like it

[serene chasm]

what

[floral delta]

Respectfully, go fuck yourself

[carmine island]

Hello curly!

[gray rapids]

correct

[strong trench]

I think lgbt stuff is pretty cool! 👍

[gray rapids]

REA?

[slender rain]

;-;

[carmine island]

How was your dying in space (2008)?

[serene chasm]

Hi Muffin!

[slate wagon]

i think lgbt stuff is pretty gay

[floral delta]

True...

[strong trench]

True..

[gray rapids]

true

[carmine island]

True.

[slender rain]

same-

true...

[floral delta]

No dumbass, he meant he didn't like what you were implying

[slate wagon]

don’t say that while you’re a new knight youre gonna get dusted

[slender rain]

but you said "i think lgbt stuff is pretty gay" 💀

[serene chasm]

new knight or not.

[gray rapids]

i dont like you

[floral delta]

Because... It is..?

[slate wagon]

is it not

[slender rain]

then why my statement more offensive? D:

[serene chasm]

?tag fun lgbtq

[white sail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/578508195098656778/1114564567780036670/a_bit_fruity.png

[sick plank]

trans lesbian here, I can confirm I'm very gay

[floral delta]

Same!

[gray rapids]

bc its actually bad

[gray rapids]

samesies

[serene chasm]

Im a sad boring queer

[sick plank]

izutsumi.

[gray rapids]

t^t

[floral delta]

Yes?

[sick plank]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-izutsumi-gif-11482394271854438100

[slender rain]

guys bullying me frfr 💀

[sick plank]

izutsumi

[slate wagon]

well just saying same to “i don’t like [lgbt]” is a bit different than saying
gay is gay

[floral delta]

Okay pal

[gray rapids]

alright buddy

[slender rain]

aight sis:)

[gray rapids]

sure we are

[slender rain]

;-; 👍

[sick plank]

why is this server stuck in 2017

[gray rapids]

wdym?

[carmine island]

Well at least he’s not transphobic

[slender rain]

am I? I dont think so I havent said anything about genders

[dusty nimbus]

I wish it was stuck in 2021

[carmine island]

I mean using the right pronouns for trans people isn’t something you’d do if you were transphobic

[floral delta]

[slender rain]

wha-

[floral delta]

I'm trans

[sick plank]

🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍⚧️

[coarse leaf]

Why does ss disc do this to itself

[dusty nimbus]

[gray rapids]

do what

[serene chasm]

we need a trans char in SS so they can get an emote

[gray rapids]

REAL

[sick plank]

hornet is trans

[carmine island]

Lace is trans because I said so

[serene chasm]

That be cool

[coarse leaf]

Pale King is the grungler

[sick plank]

every hk character is trans

[slender rain]

why you chose 'she' then? -_-

[carmine island]

The butterflys are actually hrt

[floral delta]

What

[dusty nimbus]

Mrs Mushroom (Mr Mushroom transitioned)

[floral delta]

Because I'm Transfemale..?

[gray rapids]

go mrs mushroom

[carmine island]

Oh I may have spoken too soon

[gray rapids]

i think i understand what you mean now

[slender rain]

mr mushroom readjust

ima go now and beat pure vessel

[south vigil]

look at me go

[floral delta]

How does one do this

[normal token]

Excellent deduction Sherlock Holmes

[coarse leaf]

Good luck beating the non binary rep of the game

[gray rapids]

what

T^T

[carmine island]

@dusty nimbus You’ve played ultrakill right? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen your times whenever Peng shares screenshots

[dull falcon]

wwhere can i find the boss rush mode

[gray rapids]

T^T

[slender rain]

I have completed dark souls 1 in 8 hours

[gray rapids]

junk pit

[sick plank]

west royal waterways

[slender rain]

(it was easy)

[viscid wind]

royal waterways

[dull falcon]

is the mode gud

[normal token]

Idk game isnt out yet

[gray rapids]

yes

[south vigil]

ngl it wasnt that hard i just used this map https://scripterswar.com/hollowknight/map-sketch and got stuff, there's also a completion guide to see what counts towards completion https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Completion_(Hollow_Knight)

[viscid wind]

I think this achievement is too easy

[sick plank]

I guess

[gray rapids]

you ok

[slate wagon]

joke located, congrats

[floral delta]

HA

[dusty nimbus]

I have times?
I played the first 2 levels and never played it again

[dull falcon]

i just wannna fk my mental health by fighting all the bosses

[lucid holly]

any cope dates comin up

[viscid wind]

Like make it 10 hours

[sick plank]

20 hours i did 112 in 9 and that was like slow

[south vigil]

got hk on my computer (only had it on switch before) and just grabbed speedrun 2 and speed completion

[viscid wind]

june 6th release date reveal

[carmine island]

Oh maybe I haven’t and I’m just misremembering

[dull falcon]

ive completed thhe whole game 4 time in ultrakill mode

[lucid holly]

k

[normal token]

3 hours*

[south vigil]

is this the xbox thing or the summer games fest or what

[viscid wind]

sgf

[carmine island]

Wasn’t really asking you sorry

[south vigil]

thats a little too hard for casuals ngl

[dull falcon]

😭

[gray rapids]

crazy

[viscid wind]

That's world record pace i think

[carmine island]

This wasn’t meant to be rude I was just asking chaos directly

[dull falcon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/751480380632334457/1316179149806764093/togif-1-1.gif

[dull falcon]

.

[carmine island]

7 minutes*

[gray rapids]

guys we should have a speedrun 3 achievement for all glitches speedrunners where you have to beat the game in under 15 minutes

[dusty nimbus]

I only really tried the demo but it didn't really stick with me so I didn't continue it sorry

[carmine island]

Tahts ok I will forgive you

[dusty nimbus]

[south vigil]

ultrakill is in my backlog :P

[analog forge]

what if silksong has a secret ending where you just climb the wall and walk back to hallownest

[dusty nimbus]

Wait when did become an emote

[carmine island]

Ive played so much ultrakill I injected blood into my bloodstream now I am ultrakill…

[viscid wind]

cogfly ❤️

[dusty nimbus]

I wish it's actually useful compared to its charm counterpart

[viscid wind]

hornet doesn't know where hallownest is she was unconscious i think

[gray rapids]

i need

i need silksong to have hollow knight lore

[viscid wind]

unless she has google maps in her frontal lobe

[gray rapids]

you dont?

[analog forge]

just like. walk the opposite direction of pharloom

she'll get there eventually,,,

[normal token]

I think it would be better for her to be in an alive kingdom tbh

[analog forge]

I didnt say it was a good ending

[gray rapids]

it is a good ending

[dusty nimbus]

I don't think it will have random lore, but maybe parts of Hornets lore while growing up, the devs do want to make newcomers not be forced to play hollow knight to understand silksong lore from what I remember after all

[viscid wind]

silksulk mustnt have hallownest lore, else I'll blow up

[carmine island]

I think it would be really cool if there was a random bug taking a selfie right next to the hole hornets cage falls down though so you can see hornet falling in the background this would help the lore greatly

[gray rapids]

it has to have some

[gray rapids]

i have faith

[analog forge]

Silksong might shed more info on like, the weavers and tangential lore to hallownest

but it wont give us hollow knight lore

[carmine island]

It can’t since hollow knight has no lore

[analog forge]

we had hollow knight to give us hollow knight lore

[gray rapids]

most incorrect statement

[viscid wind]

hallownest's story is OVER

[gray rapids]

yeah and i need more

[viscid wind]

William said so

[gray rapids]

my bad

[dusty nimbus]

I wanna get Tiso's shield as a joke

[viscid wind]

yes, you're bad

[normal token]

Fuck Hallownest we've been analyzing it for 8 years I want sth new

[gray rapids]

well youre mean

[carmine island]

Imagine if tisos shield was forged in pharloon

[gray rapids]

i wanna fight tiso

[dusty nimbus]

4 hour video out of 9 seconds of silksong footage in direct be like

[gray rapids]

guys imagine if weve been lied to and silksong is a prequel

[viscid wind]

impossible...

[dusty nimbus]

It would go hard like in deep docks the forge mother is making the shield as a mass produced item and Tiso was like "My legendary weapon"

[gray rapids]

that would be fire

[viscid wind]

we got 30 minutes at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_DTTpF2QeE

[carmine island]

Guys imagine if we’ve been truthed to and silksong is a sequel

[gray rapids]

impossible

[dusty nimbus]

Mossbag has already gone insane a long time ago

[viscid wind]

mossbag has been sacrificed

on multitudes of occasions

[normal token]

1 more mossbag ss video till ss releases

[gray rapids]

mossbag is dead inside

[carmine island]

Mossbag could actually be the only sane one and we’re’ll insane

[gray rapids]

untrue...

[viscid wind]

didnt mossbag name ass jim

[normal token]

Truth is we're all insane

[viscid wind]

we have to praise him for that at the very least

[normal token]

I swear that was sth from day 1

[gray rapids]

maybe insane was the friends we made along the way

[normal token]

Maybe friends was the insane we made along the way

[gray rapids]

maybe silksong is coming in in 3025 and they made a typo in the direct

[viscid wind]

lowk fuck achievements like this

[shell salmon]

[gray rapids]

:D

[shadow parcel]

what the fuck is william pellen doing😭

[gray rapids]

william pellening

[kindred pewter]

wait you changed stickers?!?!?

[viscid wind]

How to permanently calcify your pineal gland for a good night’s rest

[shell salmon]

people dont want me to send 2 stickers per day

so imma send emoji instead

[carmine island]

What is the bar to the right?

[viscid wind]

completion bar

[carmine island]

Ah

[viscid wind]

in minutes, i have 50 hours on tabletop simulator

[kindred pewter]

welp that's sad

[shell salmon]

[kindred pewter]

the only way to send 2 stickers per day is revolting against society

[shell salmon]

heck imma do it rn

[harsh yarrow]

just say your accounting for timezones

[viscid wind]

crooked deals… I must make more crooked deals…
4am sharp… the hero’s piss
beware the sideways people
A gun that sounds really shit so you never use it
Haunted… by ghosts

[carmine island]

Just play one minutes every day

It’ll only take 27000 days

[viscid wind]

what happened to my hollomite

[harsh yarrow]

additionally mitted

[carmine island]

Small

[shell salmon]

no more lies and silkposts anymore

imma keep it real

[carmine island]

You’re a real one…

[shadow parcel]

mmmmmm... hero piss

[brittle arch]

he keep coming back thats why its not working

[last ravine]

Good morning my SS friends
How are you doing?

[last ravine]

Oops...

[tawdry valley]

What? Why

[last ravine]

You're... dead????

And still can speak

[tawdry valley]

Okay

[last ravine]

[tawdry valley]

This was an answer to your question

[late prawn]

I'm not a gremlin that keeps track of every silksong detail, do we know if it'll be a direct sequel that'll tie into and feature things from hollow knight? Ik it's a sequel, but I wonder if it's like a "takes place an undisclosed amount of time after the events of hollow knight" type sequel, or a "direct tie in with recurring characters and plot points/references"

[carmine island]

It’s ok there’s no shame in admitting you have a problem

It’s the first step to recovery

[median fractal]

We dont know

[late prawn]

?

[median fractal]

I want to say its a prequel but that would be a guess and you can make your own.

[late prawn]

I hope its the latter, I want recurring characters.

[carmine island]

It is a sequel to hk it’s always been referred to as such by tc

[median fractal]

Same. Jsut that a prequel makes more sense for me here

We'll see

[late prawn]

Yea I was boutta say I thought it being a sequel is confirmed

[viscid wind]

There won't be many recurring characters, the story of pharloom is separate of hallownest

maybe 1 or 2 cameos tbh

[carmine island]

There’s hornet at least

[viscid wind]

How

yeah she just gets kidnapped from hallownest then finds her road all the way back to hallownest after casually saving pharloom

[floral delta]

I thought TC said it was a sequel

[warped umbra]

Sequel to the game

The second in the series

Im pretty sure it is a sequel timeline wise as well tho probably, no official confirmation on that tho

[last ravine]

I know, but... it's a skeleton!

[iron stone]

after getting beaten up times and times against ghost in hk, she went out to train in a quest to challange the higher beings

[steady sage]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-berserk-skeletons-skeleton-berserk-skeleton-unfunny-gif-25192742

[last ravine]

Cool profile pic!

[steady sage]

thanks :3

[median fractal]

Hornet's power, Silksong looks like itll be 'hornet's character development arc' in a way. Its something I'd put BEFORE the events of the first game. It's Hornet's history she doesnt talk about, the core of her real combat experience.

Thats what it looks to be at least

Whether you think that or not is up to you

[heavy magnet]

i don't buy it. If it takes place before the first game, why doesn't Hornet have her drone army and portable buzzsaws

[steel terrace]

^^^

[median fractal]

That really is just hollow knight being hollow knight. She does use spike balls in the second fight and she also finds recipes to stuff in Silksong so like

Maybe she doesnt have the stuff to make things outside of Pharloom

[pure wave]

hornet also says she lost some of her tools in forge daughter's dialoge, hence why she does not start with the spike ball thingy

[viscid wind]

I thought she asked for her spike balls back when forg doghter....

[median fractal]

...what forge daughter bro I am clueless now

[heavy magnet]

forg doghter

[median fractal]

frog doghter

[viscid wind]

The demo

[heavy magnet]

she could probably figure out spike balls on her own, but Pharloom offers a lot more complex stuff

[median fractal]

Yeah I didnt see like much of it at all

And honestly rather not at this point

[heavy magnet]

yeah, i want as few spoilers as possible

even the 6 new seconds we've got are like acid in my soul

[chilly crane]

It’s 352 am

[tawdry valley]

Three hundred and fifty two O’clock?

Are you a buffoon

[devout talon]

e

[harsh yarrow]

More than likely its that Hornet couldnt source the stuff for the spikes she would make in Hallownest in Pharloom

Rather than not being able to source abundant shellshards from the multiple husks that fill Hallownest

But from how Team Cherry talks about Silksong, Hornet looses her "traditional strength" from the cage- her traditional strength being how we see her in Hollow Knight

it doesnt make sense for her "traditional strength" to refer to a Hornet that we've never seen

[brittle arch]

just wait for the game to come out

[uncut bolt]

let them theorize

[brittle arch]

oh yeah true

[uncut bolt]

theories are the antidote to silksanity

[brittle arch]

my bad

still i have no idea what you are talking about

[carmine island]

It’s not a theory it’s pretty much true all evidence considered

[brittle arch]

real

[ember violet]

I like how enemies in moss grotto dont drop any money it naver made sense why would something like a primal aspid carry around geo

[carmine island]

If Silksong is a sequel or prequel

[harsh yarrow]

From a very surface look Silksong being a prequel makes sense

[ember violet]

Its a sequel

[brittle arch]

no one absolutelyknow but it lean more to sequel, thats what they said

[carmine island]

Yeha but with actual info about it it’s very easy to see it’s a sequel

[harsh yarrow]

But then you need to think
Why doesnt Hornet use Silkspear?
Why doesnt she use Cogflys or straight pins?
Why doesnt Hornet use her sharp shadow equivelent?

[carmine island]

Team cherry themselves call it a sequel

[vagrant onyx]

neither

[brittle arch]

the game haven't come out yet bud

who knows ?

[carmine island]

A secret third option…

[vagrant onyx]

spinoff game :3

[harsh yarrow]

Becuase it'd be goddamn stupid for the game to be a prequel

[carmine island]

Us because team cherry have said it is a sequel

They call it a sequel

[brittle arch]

very likely

[carmine island]

Every bit of info points to it being a sequel

[glossy berry]

theres literally no evidence to it being a prequel no

[carmine island]

Team cherry interviews mention how the cage took away hornets past strength

[full rune]

Me when my challenge is differentiating a sequel to lore or a sequel to a franchise

[brittle arch]

cool

[harsh yarrow]

Its just be silly for it to be a prequel

[carmine island]

It’s not “very likely” it is actual fact why aren’t you getting this

[harsh yarrow]

Hornets lost her traditional strength, lets watch her loose it again before the first game!

[brittle arch]

to be honest, if there's no hollownest related stuff, prequel or sequel just doesn't matter

[carmine island]

THE WEAVERS

[brittle arch]

i don't even care about them anymore

[glossy berry]

"lacking my prior tools" implies that hornet was in hallownest, got taken all the way to pharloom, got all her skills back there, lost them again somehow, and then walked back to hallownest in time for the weavers to leave

[carmine island]

Losing it

[brittle arch]

the weavers aren't even in hollow knight

[glossy berry]

what

[brittle arch]

just some silly infected spiders

[harsh yarrow]

Its like that little mermaid prequel they did
So much stuff, just to undo all the character growth they had happen in the prequel because the first movie exists

[brittle arch]

they ditched hallownest

[ember violet]

There is one

[brittle arch]

oh idk that

[normal token]

Weaver

[brittle arch]

I guess weavers are just not my interest

they also look weird

[rocky flicker]

megamind lookin headass

what do they look like when their heads open

[carmine island]

Silksong discussion user look up facts and make an argument challenge impossible

[harsh yarrow]

Just, having Hornet learn and grow, pick up new tools and techniques, just to abandon them all for some funny barbs and gossamer storm, with nothing else... would be incredibly stupid

[glossy berry]

everybody knows that if your point isnt based on vibes, you lose

[ember violet]

Looks like one guy just decided to stay

[normal token]

I got a vibe that Silksong is releasing tomorrow

[carmine island]

Yeha and we don’t see lace in hollow knight even though in the ending to Silksong hornet and lace get married

[heavy magnet]

came back because he forgot his pet spiders

[harsh yarrow]

I know, smh

[heavy magnet]

but TK snagged that charm

[carmine island]

Did they divorce before hollow knight?

[rocky flicker]

he was gonna pick up weaversong but you scared him and he left

[slate wagon]

he’s on his way out he just saw the weirdo running g through their house

[brittle arch]

they might lie idk

[normal token]

I remember being hella jumpscared by it when I was cdashing to the exist

[ember violet]

Whouldnt a spider having a pet spider count as slavery

[rocky flicker]

idk probably

[carmine island]

I think they’re kids but sure why not

[ember violet]

Wrong message

[rocky flicker]

yeah what if we took that guys kids as a charm

[carmine island]

Kidnapping

[rocky flicker]

a knight of great renown

[slate wagon]

those are hornets kids

[glossy berry]

there are also a fuckton of weaver corpses in the beasts den with dream nail dialogue as well, that is worth mentioning

[compact night]

Some of yall would buy this in a heart beat

[glossy berry]

not quite Alive but they are in-game

[ember violet]

I mean the sporeshroom is technically alive

[glossy berry]

have yall seen the spamton plush fangamer trailer, because that guy is getting tortured on a similar level

[brittle arch]

guys how about we just forget all about the lore and just beat up bugs ingame

[carmine island]

Yeha it’s fuckinh awesome

[normal token]

No my games must have a rich lore

[brittle arch]

go play fnaf 2 or sth

[rocky flicker]

isnt brumms accordion alive

[glossy berry]

it is a bug yeah

[carmine island]

Throw this guy into #hk-lore for 5 minutes and see how his opinion changes

[glossy berry]

its like macebug lmao

[ember violet]

What 😭

[carmine island]

Yeha like mace bug

[brittle arch]

pretty sure i understand the lore very well

[rocky flicker]

it has legs

[ember violet]

Body horror

[compact night]

Uh guys can I ask show yall something or type it

[brittle arch]

bug got infested by a moth so a knight help beating it away

[normal token]

You don't need to ask to ask, fire away

[heavy magnet]

bug pipes

[ionic island]

omg i love him

[compact night]

His legs are so tiny

Anyway

[rocky flicker]

he lives in constant suffering

[carmine island]

Oh my god rude!!!

[heavy magnet]

nooo
it loves being played

[glossy berry]

dont be mean he could be sensitive about them :c

[normal token]

Lmao bro has tiny legs

[rocky flicker]

would you rather be brumms accordion or macebug (before the knight kills false knight)

[glossy berry]

does macebug love getting slammed into the floor too; are some bugs hardwired to enjoy being used as tools

[compact night]

I didn’t know he was sensitive about it my apologies

[carmine island]

Hallownest society is crazy

[ionic island]

you get it

[rocky flicker]

it expressed joy at being free so probably not

[normal token]

The Hallownest situation is insane

[compact night]

Okay so yall I need thoughts on this so I’m making my OWN hollow knight AU aka universe thingy and some characters are getting changed for example zote the mighty is now being called

Zote the Noble

But that’s NOT all

Let me keep going

[carmine island]

Ok

[rocky flicker]

imagining the accordion feeling pain is funnier

[brittle arch]

get outta here

[carmine island]

SHUT UP HES TALKINB

[slate wagon]

the music is it’s cries

[compact night]

His Backstory is Zote still comes from a distant land, but instead of being the delusional loudmouth we know, Zote the Noble is a proud, determined warrior who genuinely wants to protect others. His belief in the "57 Precepts of Zote" remains strong, but he now uses them as inspirational sayings, kind of like knightly affirmations rather than egotistical nonsense.

[brittle arch]

ok

[rocky flicker]

every accordion in the soundtrack is an accordion bug being tortured by chris larkin

[brittle arch]

ok can he stop talking now

[rocky flicker]

this is just base game zote

[heavy magnet]

i hope pharloom has more living bug-instruments
actual bug bag-pipes

[compact night]

AND his personality is WAYYYy different for example

He’s still dramatic and loud, but now in a charming, heroic way — like a knight from a storybook.
He trains under Hornet’s guidance in secret after realizing he’s not strong enough on his own.
He respects Hornet immensely, even if he won’t always admit it directly.
His ego still pokes through sometimes, especially after a victory, but now it's more endearing than obnoxious.
He helps others in Hallownest, stepping in during danger — not just to brag, but to really help.

[glossy berry]

popular hallownest youtuber MoistCr1CKeTaL on his way to make another slop video

[rocky flicker]

yeah this is just base game zote

[carmine island]

I hope you can kill the bugs using living bugs as instruments and free them

[normal token]

Lowkey his videos were a banger at the start then it becomes soulless, he really just wanted that geo

[brittle arch]

the only hollow knight universe i accept is where he's gone for good

[heavy magnet]

what if they're friends and the bug instruments like it

[ember violet]

Keep on mind Monomon knew how to use electricity but they put their (children?) jellyfish in jars and used them as a light source

[carmine island]

Stockholm syndrome

[compact night]

Honestly based

[heavy magnet]

Godholm syndrome

[carmine island]

Sure

Why not

[rocky flicker]

lumaflys arent jellyfish

[ember violet]

There are jellyfish jars as well

In the archives

[carmine island]

@shell yacht wanna see the giant hole we made in the nether roof?

[rocky flicker]

I think the jellyfish are just a way to contain infection

[compact night]

This is just a joke but I love how hollow knight fans when it comes to another fan wanting to change zote to make him good everyone’s like

“No no you don’t understand him being an absolute asshole and jerk is apart of the character!! It makes him great I swear!”

[lament lotus]

dude the hollow knight font is everywhere

[compact night]

The hell is a hollow knight font

[carmine island]

The text font

[hoary bough]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-mr-krabs-krabs-eugene-spongebob-gif-7788295648737899317

[ember violet]

They have dream nail dialogue

[rocky flicker]

which is just monomon

[compact night]

Guys if you were put into hollow knight universe what character would you be? BUT you cannot be powerful characters like hornet radiance shade lord Grimm etc

[rocky flicker]

cornifer hes awesome and cool and married to iselda

[lament lotus]

cornifer is probably the best pick

[viscid wind]

i thought jellyfish stored data

[civic bolt]

What's the canonical reason for Iselda being so

[carmine island]

You might want to sit down for this but zote being an absolute asshole is actually a part of his character not every character has to be morally good and liked by everyone to be a well made or good character

[lament lotus]

i would be sly but i don't want to be 2 nanometers tall

[rocky flicker]

jellyfish dream nail is just MONOMON or monomon

[ember violet]

Crazy jellyfish lore

[rocky flicker]

they kinda stupid

[compact night]

If I was cornifer i would literally being staying with iselda ALL the time bro

She’s so….

[rocky flicker]

Id be out making maps and exploring