sk-discussion

[lone crown]

Yeah

[pliant juniper]

like primal aspids are good to deal with using spells cuz you can one shot them with shade soul

[lone crown]

Primal aspids get too much hate

[fiery burrow]

Thats... not what those words mean

[vivid belfry]

tell me what they mean then

[pliant juniper]

this is some high school english teacher level bs

[lone crown]

I mean stagnant means "doesn't change" or "isn't dynamic"

[vivid belfry]

and what do those mean in the context of this game

[fiery burrow]

Yes which is different from boring which means evoking boredom which is a feeling.

[solemn juniper]

Those crystal bastards in crystal peaks are worse than primal aspids by a lot.

[vivid belfry]

of course the fights don't change, they have the same moveset every time 5head

[lone crown]

PV would be considered dynamic as it gains new abilities as you progress, so would White Defender

[glossy berry]

the only time i can justify hating them outright is p5ab collector but no sane person does that so it doesnt matter

[pliant juniper]

yeah but you barely deal with them

[fiery burrow]

Well I'd rather not explain the fundamental meaning of words but here we are.

[vivid belfry]

okay so is this guy saying that every fight in the game should work like this

what's the message

[glossy berry]

i really do not think a second phase attack pattern would have saved gruz mother lmao

[solemn juniper]

Give them three shotters I will cry though...

[lone crown]

Im not 100% sure as im not Starpengu

[coarse leaf]

Star has no message they just argue about everything and dont like hollow knight all that much

[fiery burrow]

Multiple fights could benefit from this yes

[fiery burrow]

??

[lone crown]

I love Soul Tyrant and Lost Kin as refights ngl

They're my favorite refights

[vivid belfry]

that's what I was figuring but there's a couple of reply guys who seem to fall into this category and I can't keep them straight

[lone crown]

I found Soul Tyrant ridiculously early

[fiery burrow]

I have 1000 hours in HK lol its a game I very much do enjoy. I also enjoy arguing admittedly but I don't argue about nothing

[coarse leaf]

Ah my bad

Then star just likes arguing, ignore the not liking hk part

[vivid belfry]

if you've gotten bored of a game after 1000 hours maybe it's not actually something that needs to be addressed

[fiery burrow]

You got me

I like the discussions I choose to partake in. Wrap it up

[coarse leaf]

Yes its just the lore regulars

[lone crown]

It was very very fun to take on, and it also felt like I wasnt supposed to be there

It was my first ever dream world boss

[fiery burrow]

I'm not bored of the game I'm bored of the combat which is what I'm critiquing

I can start a new save right now and have a good time

[vivid belfry]

you're not very good at critiquing it I'm sorry to say

[lone crown]

Soul Tyrant will always be the goat for that single experience i had

[atomic sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-23195488

is THIS your goat ?

[lone crown]

no thats soul MASTER

[fiery burrow]

Why do you keep repeating this instead of engaging with the discussion

[atomic sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-soul-tyrant-joseph-anderson-boss-fight-metroidvania-gif-25423483

[atomic sparrow]

is THIS your goat ?

[lone crown]

Yes

[glossy berry]

actually peak fight ngl

[heady iron]

I think we should continue the argument

[lone crown]

Also I love this arena way more than the original

[vivid belfry]

because there isn't a discussion

[glossy berry]

exclusively because i fought him with like no gear and that was a blast

[versed pollen]

I actually totally forgot if both SM and ST can annihilate themselves

[lone crown]

Agreed same

[fiery burrow]

You aren't the arbiter of what is and isn't a discussion

[vivid belfry]

until you give a specific criticism, all you're saying is "I think the early game bosses lack moveset variety and that makes them boring" and that's not really something worth addressing

it's not going to change and there's no reason to change it

[fiery burrow]

Obviously its not going to change thats completely irrelevant

Do you think that I think that Team Cherry is lurking right now and taking what I say to heart?

[vivid belfry]

yes

[dusk holly]

I don't understand what are we arguing

[heady iron]

Hi wilbo

[vivid belfry]

no I think you're talking just to talk so maybe trying to attribute a point to what you're saying was a mistake

[fiery burrow]

Uh huh

[vivid belfry]

I'm sorry you dislike massive moss charger and it made you feel 30 seconds of ennui in your last playthrough, I will send you a consolatory flower basket in the mail

[obsidian owl]

please for the love of god be real

[coarse leaf]

Basically nothing, as usual

[vivid belfry]

grievance addressed, let's talk about tools

[fiery burrow]

Its really not about you

[vivid belfry]

okay fine someone else can send the flower basket

[lone crown]

I liked moss charger the first time around cause my body physically jolted

[coarse leaf]

Draw me a picture with words this shit aint loading

[lone crown]

Godhome really diminishes the quality of some encounters tbh
Like moss charger isnt meant to be a serious boss difficulty-wise and is just a scare, expecting it every time just makes it a nothingburger

Not that moss charger isnt fun to bully but still

[fiery burrow]

What I said is that dream warriors would be unenjoyable so long as they had the same attacks its not like I was saying you wouldn't enjoy them I was just sharing my opinion

[obsidian owl]

EMERGENCY ALERTS

Presidential Alert
THE GIRLS ARE FIGHTINGGGG

[dusk holly]

Well yeah but it's supposed to be boss rush mode

[vivid belfry]

alright, you have shared your opinion now

[lone crown]

That is valid yeah

[fiery burrow]

Can I have my flowers now

[coarse leaf]

Peak

[fossil pawn]

SKONG TOMORROW

[lone crown]

If I had mod this chat would be kept under control

[vivid belfry]

try saying that at a nintendo direct

[heady iron]

Kirbstar would’ve kept this chat under control

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/nanobombs-cat-flower-gif-9240641794916841111

[lone crown]

Just make a five minute cooldown, disable embeds! Problem solved!

[glossy berry]

true, true

i think the impact it has on the future encounters and lasting memory of some fights remains a net negative despite that though
if they scaled in a way that remained interesting instead of being either sponges, or over in 3s with endgame gear it'd be better off

[dusk holly]

Oh god you reminded me tomorrow is Sunday

[heady iron]

Unfortunately we live in a society

[vivid belfry]

the dissymmetry between how nail binding impacts fights is insane

gruz mother feels mostly the same, vengefly king feels like falling into a black hole

[lone crown]

Bindings in general are stinky imo

[fossil pawn]

what are yall even bickering about

[glossy berry]

bindings are a whole other thing though tbh

makes pantheons either piss easy off or an absolute slog on

[normal token]

Me with doing P5AB rn

[lone crown]

Ive done p5ab twice and still find bindings smelly

[glossy berry]

of all the ways to introduce challenge they could not be less condusive to actually fun gameplay

[normal token]

I actually don't mind the challenge of later bosses I just wish I didn't have to waste time on the far weaker versions

[tender burrow]

i hope bretta will appear in silksong

[vivid belfry]

idk soul binding at least changes up the usual gameplay loop a little

[glossy berry]

yeah same here theyre really not good

spending 20 minutes getting through fights that

• take ages
• have no meaningful threat
  isnt fun actually

[normal token]

On the bright side each attempt I feel like I'm clearing them faster but still sucks

[glossy berry]

charm and nail bindings are probably the most egregious imo
remove all semblance of actual build variety and make your nail do jack shit

[lone crown]

I appreciate that they exist but like tbh I could kinda artifically impose the same restrictions that bindings do if I start a new playthrough but never upgrade hp, damage, equip charms, or use soul except every now and then (soul binding easily the most unique though)

Also steel soul is very lazy as well, I think even TC themselves said it

Again you can make that an artifically-imposed thing

[normal token]

Ye it's why they want Silk Soul to be bigger and better

[glossy berry]

i think this is just a consequence of dev crunch tbh

i think the silksong equivalent is supposed to be far more fun and engaging according to tc

which is good because it really poses no threat in hk after a single regular 112 run

[vivid belfry]

if silk soul actually is expanded movesets for bosses and enemies I think everyone who complained about the game taking too long should give ME 10 dollars

[fiery burrow]

I've always thought a binding system where you have both downsides and upsides could be cool but thats mostly spitballing

[heady iron]

If silk soul doesn’t give every enemy 2 new moves with new animations I’m refunding

[lone crown]

Im an advocate for unique ideas, and curving the bosses to be harder/unique instead of yourself weaker, while maintaining the skills you've learned

[normal token]

No one's giving you money till either July 7th or November 19th are correct

[glossy berry]

youre about to retire early

[vivid belfry]

fine

[fiery burrow]

Heck yeah

[vivid belfry]

I'll see you in 3 months

[lone crown]

This is what i hope for, boss remixes and enemy changes

[stable estuary]

Give us BEEEEEG knight

[lone crown]

Imagine if Silksoul actually had unique bosses

Like as bonuses

[vivid belfry]

idk about unique but maybe

[lone crown]

Similar to pantheon head bosses

[normal token]

Unique? Nah tbh

[vivid belfry]

they would either upset the progression or not impact it at all

[lone crown]

Valid

I dont mean literally anywhere

I mean like secret ones toward the end

Similar to nailmasters

[normal token]

I think everything should at least be familiar with silk soul despite bosses getting new attacks n such

[vivid belfry]

or replacing existing encounters

[glossy berry]

i think locking actual content and multiple fights behind it isnt great but i would kill for it being an actual hard mode

[lone crown]

But yeah this is good enough anyway

[lone crown]

Yeah you're right

[glossy berry]

boss reworks and harder overworld enemies and the like

[lone crown]

Adjusting what's there would be cooler anyway

[heady iron]

Silk soul will actually just be a roguelite mode

[lone crown]

Cause why make one unique boss when you can spend time making everything else more unique

[fiery burrow]

expedition mode

[median fractal]

Some predication list of mine that I wanted to write several hours ago regarding Silksong

• The game will be 15$ or 20$
• It will either be just as much content as Hollow Knight or bigger (content generally, not just map size, because that is basically guaranteed)
• They will go through with their Silk Soul ideas
• The game will release somewhere in June - August
• The game will scratch Hollow Knight or be straight up better (very subjective, people might like Hollow Knight more due to nostalgia or less complex mechanics. But for people new to HK I assume Silksong will be more liked)

^ this is predictions, agree or not.

[lone crown]

All of what you said will be true anyways except the release which is unknown

[vivid belfry]

legitimately the only think silksong can do worse than HK based on what we've seen is the story and I don't find that likely

[glossy berry]

we know itll be bigger for sure yeah
i dont think like 2x or more like some say is either feasible or a good thing though, probably just a couple more areas and larger rooms

[frozen frigate]

no i think everyone will hate it and team cherry will never be able to go out in public ever again without having tomatoes thrown at them

[tropic sigil]

I agree with most of these things except release

[brittle garnet]

I think Silksong will be a lot more different from HK than we expect - the same exploration focus will still ve there, but i think people generally underestimate how different it will feel overall

[median fractal]

Well yeah but it was the one prediction I had to include lol

[normal token]

Wdym we all know the release is June

[lone crown]

Silksong will definitely clear in the story aspect

[heady iron]

I think it’ll be worse cause it has a female main character

[brittle garnet]

June 12 would be poetic

[fiery burrow]

This time with 5 more delicate flower endings

[median fractal]

I estimate a different game with the feel and basics the original game had

[lone crown]

Im more invested with the NPCs this time around especially considering Hornet talks

[glossy berry]

i think its one of those things where hk's plot will look like kid shit in retrospect icl

[vivid belfry]

for me personally the artsy thematic storytelling of HK is uniquely engaging

[glossy berry]

given we actually have a fully developed world with more than like 5 npcs

[trim estuary]

JUUUNE 12TH BABY WOOOOOOOOOO

[vivid belfry]

this is why I'm one of 5 people who actually likes everhood 2

[fiery burrow]

Yeah HK has a pretty good story

[glossy berry]

okay yeah no based actually everhood 2 fucked

[fiery burrow]

maybe my 3rd favorite behind Hyper Light Drifter and Outer Wilds

SS could definitely beat it though

[brittle garnet]

I think Hornet being able to talk will have huge impact on how the story and lore is presented

[glossy berry]

i think outer wilds clears in these discussions regardless tbf that entire game is nothing but plot

[lone crown]

Ngl i think its a good thing Silksong will have storytelling told in a slightly different way other than mostly environmental/lore tablet/dreamnail

Cause HK will still be unique and remembered for its own shit despite its sequel likely clearing it at every front

[vivid belfry]

the big dog that silksong has to take down in its narrative isn't actually hollow knight, it's blasphemous

[fiery burrow]

Outer Wilds is too good to count

[lone crown]

Blasphemous 2 is great

[median fractal]

Silksong takes what Hollow Knight was and makes it fire-er (especially with Team Cherry having more budget and being more experienced than previously)

[vivid belfry]

because blasphemous is currently the definitive commentary on catholic guilt culture

[heady iron]

Sherma will remember that

[fiery burrow]

powdered i will KILL YOU

[dusk ore]

is ths official hk server or fanmade?

[brittle garnet]

Tbh i dont think they will stop doing environmental storytelling. Just this time hornet will HAVE a story of her own to talk about, while the lore of the world can be left as environmental

[fiery burrow]

Mods, hit him with the Homerun Hero

[glossy berry]

official

[trim estuary]

as official as it gets

[vivid belfry]

both lmao

[lone crown]

Blasphemous 1 and 2 were phenomenal. 2 is more refined with gameplay and movement but is a bit more linear than 1

[median fractal]

TC are here so

[dusk ore]

how both tho

[vivid belfry]

it was made by fans and then endorsed by team cherry

[solemn juniper]

This is a cult.

[shell yacht]

The only reason it's not technically official is because that requires an employee of the company running the server

[dusk ore]

yea so team cherry doesnt mod this and control right

[lone crown]

Team Cherry themselves have used this server before, and people they know IRL are also responsible for making the server, so it’s as close you can get but its not outright officially controlled by TC

So thats why its both

Kinda

[normal token]

Unofficial-but-might-aswell-be

[shell yacht]

There will never be a server officially run by them and this is the one they endorse so that is why it is official as it will get

[glossy berry]

its unofficial in name only yea

[shell yacht]

Because employee technicality

[solemn juniper]

I own the server.

[dusk ore]

yea imma have to wait until they make their own this one looks messy

[glossy berry]

the team are in the server, they just arent active lol

[glossy berry]

if you say so lmao
have fun waiting o7

[vivid belfry]

hornet should have a tool that moderates a discord server

[normal token]

https://tenor.com/view/spinel-garden-waiting-waiting-patiently-space-gif-17939383

[lone crown]

I think it is pretty awesome how close to the devs/the process you can be

Like ive had some exchanges with Leth and Simo in DMs and it was awesome

[dusk ore]

tbh this server doesnt contribute anything so yea ig waiting doesnt matter

[lone crown]

Land of Storms…

[fiery burrow]

Fearless Fox server

[solemn juniper]

Knowing famous people isn't as hard as it seems. There was this one guy I built up to do I can snatch some of his profits and it worked.

[glossy berry]

yeah! it sure helps with how indie tc are compared to basically every other studio, but the public facing bit is awesome, i'm a huge fan

lots of places could take hints tbh

[lone crown]

I love stealing

[tender burrow]

XD

[solemn juniper]

I used to be somewhat "famous" actually, but I deleted it all because I hated it.

[glossy berry]

this place is the closest we'll ever get to an official server, and is probably up there when it comes to public-facing elements of largely successful games but more power to you my man

[solemn juniper]

I invented gravity.

[normal token]

I think this channel is one of the places I've been in the longest for

[fiery burrow]

Join there its a lovely place

[dusk ore]

alright ill leave tbh i dont like this server all that much it was nice to talk with you

[dusk ore]

ye i like moss ill check out his

[fiery burrow]

Anti mosscord propaganda 🤯

[solemn juniper]

I'm your mom.

[normal token]

I lost many comrades and left at times but I still am here for sksong

[glossy berry]

this place invents new flavours of user daily its so cool

[shell yacht]

I should ban star for the outcome of this conversation

[glossy berry]

will be missed o7
may it all be worth it in the end

[uncut citrus]

no idea what the convo was i just joined but i had to shrue that because ithohught the message would be funnier if it was shrued

[normal token]

I'm not ready to leave it all behind for good, the other times I knew there was a way back

[solemn juniper]

Quiet false mother.

[shell yacht]

She sent a skeptical person to mosscord

[glossy berry]

person joins, asks if this is the official server, gets told it isnt in name only, says its a shitshow and leaves to mosscord

good times

[glossy berry]

also yes this too

[uncut citrus]

oh its you

[lone crown]

This will always be the weirdest and most unsettling place in the game imo

This is the closest to the original HK vision of having more realistic/detailed bugs, and seeing massive piles of them lit up by lightning (which is a first), and even more of them depending on where the light comes from makes me feel weird, combined with the egregious prerequisites to even see this place which isolates you from most of the playerbase

A very uncanny area in an expansion that already doesn’t feel like a part of the base game

[fiery burrow]

Zote

[solemn juniper]

How do you get there again?

[glossy berry]

i still havent properly internalised that, within a year, this place will just be another normal-ish game community it feels so odd

so used to the whole dynamic this place has going on <\3

[normal token]

Boy I can't wait to get this once I finish the daunting task of p5ab

[lone crown]

P5 with bindings, either individually or all at once it doesnt matter

[normal token]

All pantheons

[lone crown]

Yeah all of them mb

[solemn juniper]

I haven't even done pantheon five normally </3

[lone crown]

Even the entrance to the land of storms makes zero sense

[glossy berry]

though tbf if you're doing p5ab you probably should have done the rest in advance

[fiery burrow]

Praying for an unseen spooky area in silksong

[lone crown]

Its deliberately made to be uncanny

[past trench]

i wish i could beat p3 (i kept dying fo zote/uumuu 💀)

[fiery burrow]

Deep sea area with lobsters 🙏

[lone crown]

Ive done them individually to see the land of storms before doing p5ab

[lone crown]

Crustaceans are already confirmed
Barnacles are crustaceans and there’s an whole area with those

[glossy berry]

killing zote making the entirety of p3/p5 easier remains the best tactical choice you can make

[lone crown]

I cant wait to see that area, we haven’t seen it since 2019

And only two shots

[fiery burrow]

Deepnest isn't even scratching the surface of freaky bugs they could include

[normal token]

What's crazy is that we haven't seen Sharpe anywhere ngl

[lone crown]

Dear god what the fuck

[uncut citrus]

awesome boss fr fr

[solemn juniper]

Deep est never bothered me.

[lone crown]

And he’s meant to be encountered more than once

[glossy berry]

fucked up and weird bugs my beloved i need some more horrible creatures in silksong

[past trench]

i thought saving him was needed for 112%? (which is my main goal)

[lone crown]

Only LoS did for me

Oh and that one thing in KE where you just keep going down

[glossy berry]

it isnt no

[normal token]

Keep forgetting that Silksong will also be filled with cut backer content, really cool

[glossy berry]

would be unfair to lock players out of a full comp because of an early choice essentially

[solemn juniper]

Can't wait for ants<3

[lone crown]

There’s an entire backer town in Silksong, it could be one of the four we’ve already seen or a hidden one

[lone crown]

I think the backer for that tier is in the server actually as art staff

[solemn juniper]

Hope we get more spidery spiders.

[chrome glade]

I'm thinking of doing a 4th playthrough just to get all the missable hidden rooms before silksong

[glossy berry]

i cant wait for a lot of things tbf
silksong is gonna blow hollow knight out the water, and its still one of my favourite games of all time

[past trench]

i got no idea where i got that thought from tbh, made me overthink if i saved him or not 🤧

[heady iron]

The return of snail village 🔥

[past trench]

in my current save hes at his cage at colo though lol

[normal token]

Same
I'm p sure Silksong is the longest game I've been waiting for/most aware since announcement

[stable estuary]

……context????

[solemn juniper]

Lesbian ending.

[lone crown]

LÖMM THE POOP SNAIL!!!!!!!

[pliant juniper]

there is none

[past trench]

yuri in my skong...

[solemn juniper]

[trim estuary]

Mods are asleep post Lacenet

[solemn juniper]

Lace marry me...

[ionic arch]

hey gang I'm sobbing ask me anything

[lone crown]

I cant wait for this area

[glossy berry]

lace is 100% dying but that doesnt make it less violently homosexual

[frozen frigate]

do you eat toast/how do you like toast toasted

[solemn juniper]

No.

[glossy berry]

:c
heya hi its good to see you

can i ask whats up are you okay?

[versed pollen]

Lace dying on Hornet's hands and confessing her love

[glossy berry]

i mean stupid question but
i worry

[versed pollen]

So gorgeous

[solemn juniper]

Silksong ends with lace and hornet retiring and dying of old age.

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/123936675209412608/1360055497629241385/image.png?ex=67f9b9e3&is=67f86863&hm=5128e94f15e888edcb5e631e5ed8d1afcff46f93b07f38b052bf1f0b3bff5df9&

[stable estuary]

Can’t wait for the Lace DLC that gets turned into a full fledged game that has a development cycle of 6 years

[solemn juniper]

Happily.

[coarse leaf]

Is there a confirmation of hornet using silk in fights?

[frozen frigate]

thanks zip

[primal horizon]

the very last i think

[glossy berry]

hornet tool chart looks good

[pliant juniper]

5e

[normal token]

Lace: Hornet.... you were the silk to my song
dies

[vivid belfry]

no it's chicken wire 💔

[primal horizon]

mods. misinformation. kill!

[marsh ibex]

asleep?

[lone crown]

E7

[fiery burrow]

https://www.teamcherry.com.au/blog/post-e3-wrap-silksong-systems-update

[primal horizon]

well wouldnt you wish to sleep

[normal token]

Go back to bed gramps nothing going on here

[solemn juniper]

Beautiful.

[vivid belfry]

hey buddy

[marsh ibex]

ok

[fiery burrow]

mods allow lacenet

[ionic arch]

I like my toast toasted in a toaster, golden brown

[versed pollen]

I thought Lacenet was already allowed

[primal horizon]

thank you for killing them...

[fiery burrow]

it is

[vivid belfry]

of course

[solemn juniper]

Someone's dm spamming me door knob pictures </3

[primal horizon]

WAIT is that why they called it silksong??? i was so confused, i never realized

[ionic arch]

not eating lunch or breakfast is probably part of why I'm sobbing

[fiery burrow]

When it comes to ships what are your thoughts on Soul Master x Emilitia

[primal horizon]

is that a bad or good thing

[warm kindle]

Bro

[stable estuary]

You know, Hollow Knight board game or manga doesn’t sound half bad really….

[versed pollen]

Mid because I don't care about either of those characters
And also it's not gay

[frozen frigate]

solid

[marsh ibex]

You don’t like anything bruh

[warm kindle]

The body pillow is a joke right

[solemn juniper]

Bad, door knobs are ugly and stupid. Door handles are great!!

[versed pollen]

I like a few things. Like having loads and loads of money

[primal horizon]

um. i used door knobs

[warm kindle]

ITS JUST A JOKE RIGHT

[solemn juniper]

Invalid??

[pliant juniper]

no it's real you can buy it

[fiery burrow]

okay then midwife x willoh

[versed pollen]

Holy peam

[primal horizon]

im enby. that's valid right

[trim estuary]

Soul Master deserves better

[solemn juniper]

Door handles>>>door knobs

[glossy berry]

its not official merch if thats what you mean

[fiery burrow]

oh my god shush about the body pillow 😭

[warm kindle]

Silksanity never ends

[primal horizon]

i feel like for each time someone says something i do or say is invalid I should mention stuff that Are Valid

to cancel them out

[solemn juniper]

Door knobs are NOT valid.

[warm kindle]

I know team cherry wouldnt do this

[stable estuary]

Peak silksong discussion

[primal horizon]

well. i dunno, i'm forced to be in a house with doorknobs

[solemn juniper]

Tear them out and mature. Use door handles.

[gray parcel]

revolving doors >>>>>>

[fiery burrow]

no doors >>>

[primal horizon]

oooh. now you can't deny that

[primal horizon]

i deny this though. that really sucks

[stable estuary]

Portals >>>

[normal token]

Entering/Leaving through the window >>>

[solemn juniper]

With door handles.

[warm kindle]

Windows>>>>

[solemn juniper]

Break through walls.

[primal horizon]

i mean. sure 😭

[normal token]

BREAK THROUGHT IT ALL
AND DON'T LOOK DOWN

[solemn juniper]

With door handles.

[trim estuary]

that is NOT juggernaut 😭

[solemn juniper]

No. Who are you?

[primal horizon]

true who are you masquerade

[stable estuary]

You’ll never know

[normal token]

Masquerade from the hit series Bakugan

Aka Alice

[solemn juniper]

I'm your mother.

[trim estuary]

TM alt

[primal horizon]

why

[solemn juniper]

Because I am.

[primal horizon]

i see

well y'all. insane news today, silksong is canon to the HK universe

[stable estuary]

Even if it’s not parallel to the story

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/new-member-roleless-speech-bubble-im-new-here-say-hi-newbie-gif-27203059

[trim estuary]

False information

Voidheart and Silksong are set in parallel universes

[normal token]

Wrong
Silksong takes place between Hornet 1 and Hornet 2

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232587540719206400/1334741875931877468/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter10.gif

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/new-member-roleless-speech-bubble-im-new-here-say-hi-newbie-gif-27203059

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-life-that-shall-he-your-quest-for-today-get-a-life-wizard-joel-g-ena-gif-15884287343639894566

[stable estuary]

I really hope we get a Hornet vs. knight even though it would make absolutely no sense

[trim estuary]

That’s already a thing though

Did you play Hollow Knight

[stable estuary]

BEEEEEEG knight

[fiery burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdgJgsV6q0U

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-walker-nostalgia-critic-clap-gif-22806849

[heady iron]

I wonder how myrth's doing

[lunar loom]

Do you guys think it'll still be available on Game Pass day one?

[brittle garnet]

Yes

[trim estuary]

Xbox tweeted that it would like six days ago

[lunar loom]

oh okay ^^

I was just wondering bc I was gonna play hollow knight if so, I haven't played yet but with all the silksong stuff I thought I should probably try

[trim estuary]

Hollow Knight is also on game pass isn’t it

[lone crown]

I still have the nightreign main menu theme lodged into my thinking cap

[lone crown]

Yeah thats how i first started playing

[trim estuary]

Same

[lunar loom]

Yeah, I don't have any other way to play the game bc broke so

If it got taken off I'll cry 😔

[rapid abyss]

Tried job?

[shell yacht]

SELL YOUR BLOOD

[jade canopy]

I don’t see how paying a 10 dollar monthly subscription is a way to get a 15 dollar game more cheaply but… sure ig ?

[shell yacht]

It's easy as fuck to get free trials of games pass

[oblique musk]

Theoretically it is 5 dollars cheaper

[trim estuary]

If your family (like mine) has game pass because you have a bunch of siblings it’s basically free games

[jade canopy]

Just use steam to share games in your family

[oblique musk]

Some Microsoft employee watching “[e-mail]” cancel their gamepass subscription right before “[e-mail]” signs up for a free trial:

[trim estuary]

Game pass is multiplatform so
Only one of my other siblings uses Steam

[shell yacht]

I used to really think there was a single person managing every single thing like that

[jade canopy]

The only constraint is not playing the same game at the same time, you can play different games at the same time too

[shell yacht]

Basically like how old long distance calls used to work

[trim estuary]

Arcane is returning to Fortnite soon

[jade canopy]

Eew not only using PC

I’ll admit my brain is hard wired by now to associate subscriptions with scams

Gamepass is probably good money but idk

[trim estuary]

Completely fair, they basically are in places without cancellation regulations

[shell yacht]

BUT IM STILL BROKE
AND SCORPION AND MARCELINE AND TRUNKS!!!!!

[trim estuary]

REAL
Currently grinding STW and the battle pass for the S3OG pass and Marceline lmao

[shell yacht]

Hand over your founders codes NOW

[normal token]

Is it really as simple as setting up different emails with no vpn lol

[trim estuary]

and by grinding i mean my creative afk xp maps

[trim estuary]

I bought Founders in 2018 I don’t have any codes 😭

[shell yacht]

If you have time to kill AFK you could just do Storm shield defense repeatedly

[shell yacht]

I don't have end game gear but I can hit level like 25 just by afking and that's like three or four levels

[trim estuary]

I mean the AFK map gives me 400k XP for hitting a button every twenty minutes so

[shell yacht]

I used to have one of those I guess it got reported or something because it got nerfed to hell

[trim estuary]

Do you mean Endurance or the expansion one?

[shell yacht]

Now I have one that I trap an NPC and click on them like every minute for like 1- 5,000 XP

Endurance

I haven't tried that new mission but I don't think it's something I can AFK

[trim estuary]

Hunt the Titan? Definitely not

[shell yacht]

No I think there was a another new thing added? Or maybe it's just a seasonal thing I never did before

[trim estuary]

Ohhh uhhhh

[sand lodge]

Survive the horde?

[trim estuary]

Yeah that’s seasonal

[shell yacht]

Ah ok

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481896480399949825/1360340003347239062/zTSES0_5HGzv2nmr.mp4?ex=67fac2da&is=67f9715a&hm=a1d88b9100a3b0c93da022562b2d0b2cfc74e879639ea16a56143f3776720821&

[shell yacht]

Is that the same fucking voice actor for real

Lmao

[oblique musk]

||god I miss him||

[harsh yarrow]

It'll be a mod

100% chance

[stable horizon]

is anyone buying switch 2 for silksong

[south vigil]

literally nobody is

[stable horizon]

lol

did we get any news for pc release

[south vigil]

wdym

[stable horizon]

is silksong coming to steam

[trim estuary]

yeah we got a steam page six years ago

[stable horizon]

lol

[south vigil]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksong/

Steam

Hollow Knight: Silksong

Become the Princess KnightPlay as Hornet, princess-protector of Hallownest, and adventure through a whole new kingdom ruled by silk and song! Captured and brought to this unfamiliar world, Hornet must battle foes and solve mysteries as she ascends on a deadly pilgrimage to the kingdom’s peak.

Hollow Knight: Silksong is the epic sequel to Ho…

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[stable horizon]

but is it gonna come out around the same time as the nintendo release

[trim estuary]

yes

[south vigil]

exact same time. all platforms at same time.\

[stable horizon]

ok

[night silo]

i died to gpz

i do not like how i have to play through 25 minutes of simple bosses every time i want to try 4 of them

[median fractal]

Even if it wasnt all platforms at the same time wouldnt PC (Steam) be the first anyways?

[silver oak]

?tag 4/2info

[white sail]

No tag 4/2info found.

[silver oak]

It’s gone?

[median fractal]

This must mean silksong soon!

[silver oak]

I think that was still useful

Whatever

[marsh ibex]

yeah I deleted it

why make it when hk announcements exists

dingus

[fiery burrow]

tag fun lgbtq outlasts them all

[marsh ibex]

I should make gruzzermilk tag

[trim estuary]

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-joel-g-coral-glasses-true-true-morgan-freeman-dream-bbq-gif-15950200863353233030

[livid tree]

i read all of csm

probably the most insane thing ive ever read

[still elm]

So the switch 2 releases June 5

That gives us a 105 day window for the game to release

[trim estuary]

I uh

Don’t know about that one

[lone crown]

June 5 is NOT 105 days away

[fiery burrow]

No

[vivid belfry]

obviously they meant to say July 7th

[silver oak]

People are idiots

[fiery burrow]

It doesn't need to be on the switch 2 instantly

[silver oak]

So is this an addendum or is November 19th dead

[vivid belfry]

I had a new vision last night

[silver oak]

Yeah I saw

[vivid belfry]

november 19th is dead until I'm wrong about july

[normal token]

Grover went without another vision so long it has to be true this time

[runic atlas]

june 4th with a release date for swtich 2 tbd

[trim estuary]

We have a 61 day window because Silksong is absolutely coming out on June 12th

[marsh ibex]

I miss her

[trim estuary]

Jett main 💔

[rapid abyss]

TRUE

Elite ball knowledge

[harsh yarrow]

I thought all the people thinking that Silksong wouldnt be on PC would've passed D:

[carmine island]

Only 52 tomorrows until deltarune

[rancid elbow]

How do you know

[carmine island]

He’s smart

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/maury-well-welp-funny-nod-gif-7427834453665079625

[versed pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[rancid elbow]

I see

[calm thorn]

Well no news yesterday im disapointed

[fossil pawn]

not today, but tomorrow

[nimble raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/696503817524609085/1336157146424938618/the_god_of_true.gif

[nimble raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-uh-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-the-hedgehog2-finger-wag-gif-26286917

[still elm]

105 days between June 5 and September 18

i think

[formal marsh]

hopefully silksong will release before my birthday

[lucid holly]

Silksong jojos and summer soon were so back

[young saffron]

6am

[fiery burrow]

new uni video

he's ill 😔

[carmine island]

WHAT

[marsh ibex]

Who’s uni

[fiery burrow]

swollen gums he's fine because he's the strongest though

[fiery burrow]

You might know him from his nickname "Big Boobs"

[marsh ibex]

Oh

[carmine island]

Jailed and for what?

Hopefully he recovers soon

[versed pollen]

Is this true

[lament lotus]

may my king recover

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[lament lotus]

andy did you see the news

[zinc pier]

chat I'm hungry for news. someone make something up

[hybrid stone]

quirrels nail told me silksong releases on the 19th of november

[zinc pier]

no make it sooner

that's too far away

[dusty crest]

tomorrow

[zinc pier]

no make it believeable

[hybrid stone]

thays what he told me bro

[warped umbra]

Skong anyone?

[zinc pier]

that's too soon

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hollowknight-silksong-hornet-hollowknight-hornet-gif-20680421

[zinc pier]

I'd be done to play skong

[warped umbra]

Hell yeah

[zinc pier]

I don't have it though

is it cheap?

[fossil pawn]

tweaking pains for skong

[trim estuary]

Game pass trial

[zinc pier]

oh they put a release date on deltarune

[zinc pier]

does it come with the campaign mode on game pass or just multiplayer?

[warped umbra]

Idk

[trim estuary]

both technically but you need to convert it to the steam version with deltapatcher to use the multiplayer mod

[zinc pier]

oh do you not own it either?

[warped umbra]

You'll have to break into their office to get it

The legal fees aren't very cheap

[zinc pier]

I thought multiplayer was in the game. really?

[zinc pier]

oh so like $40?

[warped umbra]

I believe the fines associated with breaking into an office and stealing intellectual property is much higher than $40

[zinc pier]

oh wait did they up it to $80 just like nintendo?

man that sucks

[warped umbra]

Real

[carmine island]

What game?

[zinc pier]

silksong

[carmine island]

Ah

Yeha don’t believe what anyone says about the pricing until it’s available for purchase

[zinc pier]

(no play along with the joke) what I thought it released in 2019?

[pliant juniper]

it will cost a krillion dollars

[zinc pier]

that's what nintendo said at least

[zinc pier]

that's tough, my krill exports have been down for the past month

[carmine island]

Adeetale what is this guy talking about?

[pliant juniper]

krill probably

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/krillion-a-in-one-im-gif-18283586406368826605

[zinc pier]

on shaw I'm just talking about the public information we have!

[carmine island]

Silksong will cost 25.31 usd

On an unrelated note

[lone crown]

Cant believe Powdered is buying Silksong for me! I love delaying him from his PS5 progress

[pliant juniper]

i dont have 25.31 dollars

[zinc pier]

wwait now I wanna know what the statistically most inconvenient amount of money for a product to cost would be

[pliant juniper]

two krillion dollars

[carmine island]

What do you by mean inconvenient?

[zinc pier]

oh yeah becauase 100 - 2 krillion = something or another

[zinc pier]

well like, you'd rather something cost 10 dolla then 10.01 right?

or 9.99 exactly

[pliant juniper]

ooh

you mean like that

[carmine island]

Under 10 dollars

[pliant juniper]

i mean an exorbitant amount of money seems pretty inconvenient

[reef scarab]

silkchat do you support my vision

[carmine island]

No he’s a lesbian

[pliant juniper]

who is that

[carmine island]

Kiryu yakuza

[reef scarab]

kazuma kiryu

[carmine island]

I can’t spell his name

[young saffron]

OH BOY fireborn is online, lets see whats going on

oh..

[carmine island]

Peak

Zotetractor the zoteboat sequel no one saw coming

[leaden delta]

the fuck is that

[carmine island]

Idk lol

[zinc pier]

sure but 1000 dollars is easier to pay off than 999.99 dollars.

[carmine island]

With credit cards nowadays it really isn’t

[zinc pier]

well yeah but that makes the hypothetical boring

so shhhh

[carmine island]

And probably you’re not gonna be paying a thousand dollars in physical money

[young saffron]

what is omori about

[zinc pier]

lets say it's 1891 and you just bought your first house for 5 dollars

[carmine island]

Omoring

[young saffron]

is it a really LGBTQ game cause if I get caught playing those types of games 💀

[zinc pier]

and now you're trying to buy a car for an amount of money

[zinc pier]

not directly no

[fiery burrow]

Omori is a great game about kissing men

[zinc pier]

oh I stand corrected

[young saffron]

now im getting it

[zinc pier]

"it's not gay mom, I'm just kissing men out of respect"

[dusty crest]

[carmine island]

They have internalised homophobia

[young saffron]

NOT ME

[young saffron]

Its in the country, im pretty sure lgbtq is illegal here? or was to an extent till 2024

[carmine island]

Oh what country?

[young saffron]

sri lanka, it is primarily buddhist so the monks here are rly power hungry so they push rules that dont even align with buddhism pretty sure

[carmine island]

Ah

[lone crown]

Fireb0rn ran out of ideas and has gone insane

[young saffron]

oh yeah nine sols exist

[young saffron]

he calls it "tariff" idk wtf that means 😭

[rustic ore]

Hop on Calamity Mod bestie

[serene yew]

Is the thing about Little Bomey making another tweet legit?

[unborn dome]

back roc's odyssey

[marsh ibex]

Wilbo makes tweets almost every day

None of which mean much of anything

[empty musk]

we just need to connect the dots... one more tweet and i've got it

[south vigil]

no silksong will not release on april 29

[normal token]

He's been making a lot more though
Perhaps it could be indictivate that he has more freetime to cook up his impactful tweets /j

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/whose-line-is-it-anyway-colin-mochrie-bat-frog-gif-20177659

[rapid abyss]

Silksong is being reimagined into a broadway musical

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-false-aew-all-elite-wrestling-exploding-barbed-wire-deathmatch-jon-moxley-gif-5468359395706100905

[marsh ibex]

gonna vomit

[fiery burrow]

shrew

[rustic ore]

Do it elsewhere I need my bestie to hop on peak

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-calamity-mod-gif-25170572

[marsh ibex]

“Peak”

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-terraria-calamity-gif-22727304

[rustic ore]

Did I stutter, bozus?

[marsh ibex]

no you just lied

[normal token]

Terrmid

[rustic ore]

Come on man Terrable/Terrariable is right there

[normal token]

Terrarimid

I'll go with that

[fiery burrow]

tereallybadria. IJBOL

[past trench]

only way for terraria to be peak is if summoner class wasnt shite 💔 (challenge: IMPOSSIBLE)

[rustic ore]

IJBOL? I just bought O lobster?

“I just busted out laughing” probably actually

[fiery burrow]

whip stacking 🤤

[rustic ore]

So basically if you installed Calamity Mod

(Summoner in Calamity is like top 2, and it aint number 2)

[marsh ibex]

calamity mod also adds more of the same middling boss behavior and boring progression the main game has

[past trench]

actually idk anything about the build in that i picked mage in my first run 💥

i still feel like in pre hardmode that would still be painful to set up but iono

[marsh ibex]

making summoners better doesn’t make it UGCK FUCKSLJABD ALMMEKWPF

[rustic ore]

🤚🏾💫💥stop choking

[coarse leaf]

i hate you i hate you i hate you i hate you

[rustic ore]

Yeah but this time there’s MORE of it

[past trench]

terraria is just "completing chores: the game" and calamity fr just prolongs that 🤧 i still have fun though i just wish it wasn't that long..

[lilac gyro]

Hi chat

[rustic ore]

well they’re the only chores I like doing (put that on a gamer shirt hell yeah)

[lilac gyro]

Do i need to remind people joker furry arc

[rustic ore]

[fiery burrow]

that never happened

https://tenor.com/view/ba-sing-se-gif-20976912

[rustic ore]

idc about joker lore i have blue corn tortilla chips rn

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[lilac gyro]

Real

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-thatboiicheck-gunna-young-thug-hot-gif-15959855

[coarse leaf]

only the fool seeks indulgence in the banquettes of his neighbour

[neon adder]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[full rune]

Whoever this is needs to be demodded immediately

[lilac gyro]

It’s jojoker

[full rune]

Wow......

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-walker-fnaf-turning-around-turning-doug-turning-around-gif-23411544

[ripe cliff]

it's unfortunate that there are no indicators to determine who on the mod team this individual may be

[lone crown]

4am sharpe

the herrah's piss

[cold maple]

silksong is here

[ripe cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/wuddddddddddddddddahelllllllllllllllll-gif-1303922410912742133

[stoic sigil]

Silksong should do this on release ngl

[tidal ruin]

Holy Graig Leth Ari Gibson Pellen is here

[lilac gyro]

I have more

[stoic sigil]

The Songer

[ripe cliff]

Photoshop lies

[north yew]

This is what’s going to happen in America right now for all games NGL

I will be back with more disappointing news

[marsh ibex]

who the hell took my counting down thing

[north yew]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-running-away-escape-nope-hell-no-gif-11230077378159241796

[stoic sigil]

Woah Joker is goated

[lilac gyro]

Thats YOU

[marsh ibex]

Clearly edited

[ripe cliff]

See? he said it himself

[lilac gyro]

I’m not gonna reply to the message because you’re going to delete it

[marsh ibex]

so you somehow managed to break into discord’s servers and modify the main client everyone uses?

Fucked up

[lilac gyro]

Yeah fs

[full rune]

I'm not entirely sure but that may be against discord TOS. Don't know for sure though

[marsh ibex]

definitely is

[tidal ruin]

that has to be a 30 second mute at least

[lilac gyro]

It isn’t

[stoic sigil]

Mods banban him

[stoic sigil]

Force him to pay a shipping fee on digital goods

[tidal ruin]

and force him to tip at the self checkout

[broken ore]

Graigson

[harsh yarrow]

hm, this screenshot from the trailer

Do we know what Weavers den this is?

I've always thought it was the first weavers den where you get Silkspear

Well, do we even know if its from a Weavers den?

[ripe cliff]

No

it could be some kind of holding cell

[normal token]

We do see some weaver gates in the demo but unsure if those connect to one in this shot

[harsh yarrow]

We know there is a Weavers Den in the first few areas

Within Bonebottom/Moss Grotto

And the architecture does look quite like a Weavers Den

[broken ore]

Another Den for him like sacrifical area in that kingdom?

[rapid abyss]

Wow and here i respected you

[lilac gyro]

Rip

[harsh yarrow]

What I also wonder

Is the Weaver alive, and just sealed? Or is the weaver long dead, and Hornet collects the Silkspear off its body?

I dont want to re-read the Edge Magazine that probably has the answer

[ripe cliff]

don't remember where TC mentioned it (its probably edge magazine) but the weavers are supposed to help Hornet "restore her traditional strength"

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah, later part of it though

[ripe cliff]

so it's more than just obtaining something off the Weavers

[harsh yarrow]

From the second part of the Edge Magazine, where they were going through the start of the game

[limber oak]

Considering that pharloom is obsessed with silk. It would make sense if the weavers were used as silk generation machines

[trim estuary]

You’re talking about Calamity Fables right

[carmine island]

i have never modded terraria

[rustic ore]

you should

it comes free with your game :)

[trim estuary]

-# *but not with the $30 Switch edition

[rustic ore]

(except it does actually come free with your game)

[barren sequoia]

It doesnt

It costs your friends sanity

[rustic ore]

sanity is but a small stepping stone on the path to messages to my master

[harsh yarrow]

Okay, so the Edge Magazine doesnt explain lol

[carmine island]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

not rn

im a bit busy

[rustic ore]

there's more stuff after moon lord btw
he's like the halfway point

[rustic ore]

no pressure

[harsh yarrow]

Doesnt exactly make it clear if the Weaver is alive or dead, at least

I assume they're alive, considering they called it a cocoon rather than a cell, but who knows

Would be interesting

[carmine island]

im doing some runs of 1-e rn but later ill look into it

[harsh yarrow]

That some weavers "preserved" themselves in Weavers Dens waiting to be rescued at a later date

basically putting a seal of binding on themselves that only another Weaver could break

(wouldnt be a proper seal of binding, considering Hornet would have to break it herself)

[trim estuary]

https://youtu.be/z6KbbPGxi4o

[bright sage]

Hornet ass vs lace ass vs ant ass

Who wins and why

[trim estuary]

What about them seal breaking bugs

[harsh yarrow]

Im waiting for Fables to be done up to Moonlord before playing

[trim estuary]

Keep your r/silksong out of here, please

[harsh yarrow]

Hornet doesnt have them

[harsh yarrow]

Least not here, if we assume that this is indeed the early game Weaver

[bright sage]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[trim estuary]

Okay hold on I wasn’t paying full attention, are these seals to defend them from the bell cult?

[harsh yarrow]

I'd assume

And to keep them alive for an extended period of time

[trim estuary]

o wait never mind I see now, I was thinking that the seal breaking bugs would ruin this but Lace is the only we’ve seen with them

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

I assume that Tammo or Fool has a better idea about this, but they dont seem to be on rn

Im just excited to see the game when its ready, will be a great time

[lone crown]

I have been summoned

[harsh yarrow]

Hai Fool

[brittle arch]

only 3 boss rn

[harsh yarrow]

Was just talking about this

[trim estuary]

yeah but all of them solo calamity’s bosses so like

[lone crown]

Yeah that weaver room is unlike anything else we’ve seen in-game so far

[harsh yarrow]

Compared to calamities forms of the Desert Scourge and Crabulon, Fables versions are far far better

They're far more dynamic and exciting

[harsh yarrow]

We were talking more about why the Weaver is sealed, and if they're dead or alive

Im assuming that, considering the weaver seems well hidden away based on the Edge Magazine, that the weaver was willingly sealed within the Weavers Den

[lone crown]

The only other asset we have that may be for that weaver place is this

[trim estuary]

Could be leftover hidden Weaver dens from before they left Pharloom? Hornet would know how to find them, if she was raised by or knows the Weavers

[lone crown]

Two of these were in the demo and i highly highly doubt this placement is final

[lone crown]

Pharloom is the Weavers’ original home after all so it makes sense

[harsh yarrow]

It'd also make some sense to try and seal some weavers away back in Pharloom, to preserve and protect the dens

You never know when you'd need to return

[lone crown]

I dont think Hornet knows much about the weavers. It’s like she’s discovering the culture of her people

My theory about the weavers:

They ran away from Pharloom and got Herrah to make a god-child with a wyrm who is prophesied to be the Weavers’ saviours during their oppression in Pharloom

In EDGE magazine its also stated that the weavers aid Hornet in her journey which checks out

Anyway as for that particular instance? Im not sure

[harsh yarrow]

Considering Hornet knows quite a bit of magic that is clearly from the Weavers, im sure she was well aware of their existance, and was likely trained by them from a young age

[lone crown]

We do know silkspear is acquired very early, and is stated to be the first key unlock in EDGE magazine

[harsh yarrow]

She was the queen of deepnest, being trained by the mages/schoolars of the court would be very normal

[barren sequoia]

Yeah we dont know how long they left after hornets birth

All we know is they definitely left after

[fleet temple]

I think those were just demo doors tbh

[harsh yarrow]

I assume they left once the Radience started to remerge after the THK was sealed

[lone crown]

Whenever she does that animation, she’s definitely acquiring some type of silk ability - we’ve only seen it one other time where hornet’s stabbing that corpse

[harsh yarrow]

And once it started to rip apart the leaderless Deepnest

[lone crown]

Yeah i highly highly doubt the placements for those are final

But them doors are definitely for another place later on

[barren sequoia]

Ywere talking abiut how a door was hidden by a fake wall right

[harsh yarrow]

I assume Hornet was just too young to assert full controll over Deepnest, or that she just couldnt againt the Radience

[fleet temple]

I wouldn't be surprised if that area had a few significant changes since the demo

[trim estuary]

The secret there is probably less major now

Like two rosaries or something idk

[lone crown]

This was the demo

[harsh yarrow]

The Weavers certainly left with Hornet not being a weaver though, but they clearly intended to give her Weaversong

[lone crown]

And this is from the new footage

[barren sequoia]

It has to be a hidden wall at least

[lone crown]

It’s blocked off. Either a one-way breakable wall, a normal breakable wall, or a fake wall you can walk past

[harsh yarrow]

yeah

[trim estuary]

One way would make more sense given the texture

[lone crown]

It has to still have something behind it, otherwise the platform there has no purpose existing

[harsh yarrow]

Im excited to see them release it soon...

[barren sequoia]

Albeit so early in the game and 0 indicator other than that platform probably means its nothing major

[harsh yarrow]

It'll be really cool to explore a game and not spoil the progression past Dream Nail

mostly because it'll be damn hard to spoil progression XD

[carmine island]

That level fuckinh sucks man

[harsh yarrow]

A friend tipped me off about Sharp Shadows existance, and I thought that would be a really cool charm, and I really really wanted it

[lone crown]

I can appreciate that even though we’ve seen a lot of areas they’ve only shown mostly the same parts of it, save for exceptions like greymoor and city where we see a lot comparatively

[harsh yarrow]

...I was sorely disapointed

[trim estuary]

Sharp Shadow is peak though

[harsh yarrow]

Its a cool charm with alot of utility, but its damage is just... bad

[lone crown]

Sharp shadow fucking sucks and if anyone says otherwise they have skill issue + crutch reliance + bad notch management

But its fine anyway, HK meta sucks and is boring

[harsh yarrow]

The only good thing about it is that it extends your shadow dash

...and thats detrimental in some places...

[brittle arch]

I used sharp shadow once and the risk is higher than not using it

[harsh yarrow]

Im excited to Sharp Shadow to be made a spell though XD

[barren sequoia]

And that weird clover area of mossgroto

[lone crown]

~10 good charms with the rest shit? Not anymore; how’s about at least six confirmed movesets AND tools

[barren sequoia]

That has like 1 image

[harsh yarrow]

Probably will be far better to use lol

[unborn dome]

we should discuss this guy

[lone crown]

Yeah every time we’ve seen it, it’s been like pretty much the same room

[harsh yarrow]

We've seen ~15 areas

Counting like Hollow Knight did
(towns are their own area)

[lone crown]

Also i am very confident with my mental map of pharloom

Clover area is 100% left of the grotto

[fleet temple]

It's kinda hard to tell which areas are seperate areas and which are just different sections of an area

[harsh yarrow]

I think I have a vauge idea of the early game map

[ripe cliff]

those metal rod things are for catching silk right

in Greymoor

[lone crown]

The split happens right here

[barren sequoia]

I just hope theres more underneath the grotto

Be it like a whole new area or the bone forest goes deeper than we know of

[lone crown]

The swamp is left of bellhart

Im way more confident with guessing the areas on the left half of the map

[fleet temple]

It'd be really cool if you were able to come back into moss grotto with a late game ability and use to open a passage leading to whole new area inside of it

[cold maple]

how long do u think it will take to 100%

[atomic sparrow]

where's gogu

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[slate wagon]

hey chat who wants to hear my theory that this crest is just an upgraded wanderers crest since the pogo is the same

[lone crown]

Oh and in that swamp, you fight the vine creature and see the dark ruins with the exploding green grapes

[lone crown]

Honestly I believe you, no theory is needed

Its a way to have the crestless moveset WITH tools

For people who like the classic

Its a nice addition

[harsh yarrow]

Something like?

Areas not to scale

[brittle arch]

guys are we getting any news beside the pillow

[slate wagon]

damn why don’t lore convos go like this

[harsh yarrow]

Actually

Replace the Citidel with Greymoor

[lone crown]

Greymoor is also to the right of bellhart, but massive and may extend even above bellhart

And also what’s interesting is, at the very top of both the swamp (left of bellhart) and greymoor (right), there’s the white petal motif everywhere

Meaning they must connect somehow and both areas are under tons of white flowers

In this convoluted screenshot you can see the white petals motif in the swamp

[barren sequoia]

I want an area that's just incredibly far away from everything else and is drastically different

[lone crown]

You dont need me to demonstrate the petals in greymoor cause seth

[brittle arch]

jesus do sth else man

it's like tryhard to spoil the game for yourself

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/new-member-roleless-speech-bubble-im-new-here-say-hi-newbie-gif-27203059

[slate wagon]

how dare you express enjoyment in a game

[lone crown]

(You’re right)

[brittle arch]

i'm way pass that

i'm the regular now

[lone crown]

Matching wall textures

[brittle arch]

the bug look lonely

[harsh yarrow]

Seth is going to be the Dung Defender of Silksogn :3

I love Dung Defender so much

[muted echo]

Silksong soon

[harsh yarrow]

Just a chill guy

[lone crown]

The barnacle area is very mysterious and we havent seen it since 2019

We’ve only seen it literally twice

[harsh yarrow]

Yeahh

[brittle arch]

tutorial boss

[lone crown]

I imagine they’re hiding it because there’s crustaceans

And barnacles ARE crustaceans

[harsh yarrow]

No, the tutorial boss is Moss Mother

And Shrimps is bugs ;3

[brittle arch]

Moss Mother is a miniboss

that thing is easier than the fly in hollowknight

[harsh yarrow]

No, Moss Mother is a boss-boss

just like how False Knight is, or Gruz Mother, or Brooding Malek

Just an easy boss because its litterally the first one in the game

And is intended to be the end of the tutorial

[lone crown]

I cant wait

[brittle arch]

than boss look weaker than primal aspid

[harsh yarrow]

roughly

[harsh yarrow]

I want to say that its under Far fields or something

IDK

[lone crown]

They’re hiding this area on purpose cause it definitey has cool stuff

[lone crown]

Nah i doubt it

[slate wagon]

coping that it got cut

[harsh yarrow]

Or under the Choral Gorge?

[sharp agate]

I love yall so much, this community’s insanity and meme lore is just as deep as Hollow Knight’s lore

[lone crown]

More plausible

[harsh yarrow]

Its so sad that Choral Gorge is likely a late game area D:

[brittle arch]

whats wrong with it being lategame

[lone crown]

Far fields is within proximity to climates like ant village (explaining the ant enemies seen there), boneforest (explaining the embers we see in the air), and likely grotto (explaining the charred greenery)

[harsh yarrow]

I want to see it early in the game D:

[lone crown]

I doubt it

[harsh yarrow]

Its so goddamn pretty

[lone crown]

I dont think gorge is late

[harsh yarrow]

Im going by Mossbags logic here

[livid tree]

i thought choral gorge was that monkey

[sharp agate]

Do yall think the cities will be big and dense?

[barren sequoia]

Dya think theres a post citadel area

[slate wagon]

yes

[barren sequoia]

Like at the climax other than maybe one for yhe final boss

[lone crown]

Idk, but we know of four towns already, five if you count the travelling caravan aka dirtmouth on wheels

[chilly crane]

11

[harsh yarrow]

Mossbag did a pretty damn deep analyis of the areas and what tools and how many masks (ish) Hornet has, and determined that Choral Gorge and... oh fuck I forgot are likely late-game

[livid tree]

choral gorge

[harsh yarrow]

From the Xbox 2022 and the more recent stuff from Nintendo

[lone crown]

Masks are not a good determinant

They have access to debug shit plus are inconsistent with what we have seen

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah, they said that, I cant remember if they did use them or not

[lone crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1252901437118087240/Seth2.gif

Like here, aint no way Hornet fights Seth with five masks only

[harsh yarrow]

Idea- Seth Guards the entrance to the Citadel

...just this potion of the Citidel has degraded to the point where its Greymoor XD

[lone crown]

Likely, looks like he’s on some bridge/platform, with the petals motif

[livid tree]

his name is just seth

[shell yacht]

Metroidvania

[harsh yarrow]

I strongly think Seth is going to be gaurding the entrance to either the Citidel or Greymoor itself

[brittle arch]

told ya he's a tutorial boss

[shell yacht]

Some people fought false knight last

[lone crown]

Well i still think masks are not a good determinant

Of area progression

Even if it may vary

[harsh yarrow]

If anything, the fact that its a metroidvania proves that masks arent a good marker XD

[brittle arch]

she's also using basic nail

and no tool

[harsh yarrow]

You can skip bosses or skip pickups to go to any boss you want lol

[lone crown]

Its probable TC just opened up a file and went straight to seth and grabbed like 5 seconds of footage

Debug

[harsh yarrow]

yeah

[brittle arch]

dude

[lone crown]

Hell even the mouse cursor is still in the gif

[brittle arch]

that's just how it is based on theory

[sharp agate]

What u finna do when the game launches? Cry or eat?

[carmine island]

@lone crown we have all the screenshots we’ve seen in doc right?

[lone crown]

Spontaneously combust

[brittle arch]

like i'm seeing his moveset ain't that hard

[lone crown]

I have every scene ever seen in one Microsoft Whiteboard and it lags my device whenever I open it up

Best believe it’s a lot of silk

[carmine island]

Peak…

[carmine island]

Wdym cry or eat?

[atomic sparrow]

i'd eat

cuz i'm a hunrgy guy

[harsh yarrow]

I'd download the game and play it

[carmine island]

Yeha me too probably

[harsh yarrow]

And probably complain about the braindead keybinds

[shell yacht]

I wasn't disagreeing or agreeing, I don't even know y'all are talking about I was just pointing it out, progression will be weird and very optional

[harsh yarrow]

WHO, IN THEIR RIGHT GODDAMN MIND, BINDS THE MOVEMENT, ON A PC GAME, TO THE ARROW KEYS?!

[carmine island]

Toby fox deltarune

[harsh yarrow]

This isnt some cheapo flash game on Cool Math games

act like a goddamn adult and bind shit to WASD

[brittle arch]

hey guys

[lone crown]

Oh mb

[rocky flicker]

True I have a question for everyone

Who actually uses the default keybinds

Because like 5 minutes into the game i changed them all

[harsh yarrow]

Yeahh

it didnt take me long to completely change the controlls for Hollow Knight

But then for awhile I was using my PS5 controller, until I decided that I liked Keyboard more

[shell salmon]

[charred pulsar]

Is it a public or private doc? There was this doc being maintained for awhile, but not recently looks like

[lone crown]

Uhh no its been something only i have

I was trying to piece together a hypothetical map but never really got around to it

I should probably fix that up a bit

[carmine island]

Having all the screenshots in one place for everyone to see would be pretty cool

[lone crown]

Yep

[atomic sparrow]

having all andies in one place would be cool too

[carmine island]

The andilings

[lone crown]

But yeah when I make it look more presentable and find a way to make it publicly accessible I’ll share it

[carmine island]

Or you could keep the monopoly on it…

[rocky flicker]

better share it before the game comes out lol

[lone crown]

Yeah game’s actually coming soon I need to finish it to have my “i told you so” moment

[harsh yarrow]

Please

I will help you with it, because I find this facinating

And I want to keep the facination before the game releases

And even after release, a good documentation and map would be really interesting

[lone crown]

Yeah you’ve been real passionate about it too

[harsh yarrow]

To see what we get right, and what we missed

understanding how Team Cherry did it is also just useful for any modding projects I do after the fact

[lone crown]

Its late rn but tomorrow i’ll return to it for sure

[harsh yarrow]

I still want to develop a mod that would be a version of Hallownest that is playable for both Hornet and The Knight, either sharing the same story, focusing on different facets of the same story