sk-discussion

[marsh ibex]

like nine sols yeah

[stable estuary]

You’re play as a dude who’s a shit person that’s it lol

[cunning geode]

space truckers

[viscid wind]

Oh mouthwashing is in my steam family share library 😇

[marsh ibex]

enjoy

[cunning geode]

your mom probably loves that game

[uncut citrus]

you know who else loves tht game?

[marsh ibex]

rude

[marsh ibex]

Don’t you dare

[dusty nimbus]

I saw a meme saying it's what if you made a game about any escort mission in barotrauma (all your friends are unhinged like in baro too)

[silk zodiac]

hi reeves how goes the inting

[dusty nimbus]

It was a meme so it must be true

[uncut citrus]

🔥

[viscid wind]

I don't think any of my friends will buy silksong because nobody cares about it but me

[silk zodiac]

YEAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[uncut citrus]

121 magic pen

[marsh ibex]

is this league

[uncut citrus]

😋

[dusty nimbus]

This is what jealousy looks like

[silk zodiac]

oh i thought that was two games it’s arena but still lfg 🔥

[uncut citrus]

i dont play Vi

[silk zodiac]

Vi is shrimple imo

you uh punch people and punch people upward. basically blitzcrank without hook

[viscid wind]

you ever lie down on the floor to fix your back pain

[silk zodiac]

yes

[shell yacht]

That usually makes it worse

[silk zodiac]

ancient technique passed down to me from my previous generations

[viscid wind]

i want to sleep on the floor when i grow up

[lone crown]

Updated

[silk zodiac]

that’s what big spine wants you to think also powdered did you get any peak adventure time stuff on fn

[marsh ibex]

I hate shakra

She’s bald

[glossy berry]

50% it makes the lower back pain from period cramps less hellish 50% it makes it worse

fun little game to play

[marsh ibex]

And doesn’t have a nose

Unlike my glorious king cornifer

[heady iron]

https://tenor.com/view/taski-maiden-taski-don't-care-gif-1951949715958516222

[viscid wind]

all in on red

[marsh ibex]

If she had a nose she wouldn’t be mid

[warm kindle]

Guys

[shell yacht]

Huh? I mean I want some of it but I don't have the spare v-bucks for it. I'm saving up for a skin and it'll take like another season or two to do that

[uncut citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-push-back-his-hairline-gif-11241907652566626707

[lone crown]

Dont you like Rain World and Nine Sols or something

[shell yacht]

We don't have to joker is already bald

[viscid wind]

I haven't played fortnite in so long, I'm saving vbucks for a SEASON WITH ONE FUCKING GOOD SKIN

[marsh ibex]

adventure time is coming up tho

[viscid wind]

i don't like it : (

[heady iron]

saying I like rain world is one of the greatest insult to my being

[glossy berry]

heads or tails

[pliant juniper]

i cant wait to play fortnite as hornet silksong

[shell yacht]

Well as long as you grind out the free v-bucks you can earn 500 bonus ones each season and then stop playing

[marsh ibex]

blocked

[lament lotus]

ADVENTURE TIME IS COMING TO FORTNITE?

[shell yacht]

"free"

[viscid wind]

yes

[pliant juniper]

yeah lmao

[silk zodiac]

yeah i wish the bundle actually included everything cuz 3800 is crazy ☄️

[lament lotus]

idk how finn would work

[silk zodiac]

it’s been in since yesterday

[viscid wind]

I don't play Fortnite enough AT ALL

[formal marsh]

the slice is disproportionate

[shell yacht]

If the season sucks I usually just AFK for a few days in a custom game or story mode and I don't have to worry about playing

[lament lotus]

oh this looks really good

[mighty crest]

Greatest game EVER?

[viscid wind]

i only ever maxxed out chapter 5 season 1 and 3 and it felt like a job....

[marsh ibex]

@warm kindle don’t post random memes

[marsh ibex]

Deleted for a reason the first time

[silk zodiac]

ts so peak……..

[lament lotus]

finn with a gun is insane

[glossy berry]

i dont like his proportions but hell yeah

[formal marsh]

they added lesbians to fortnite

[warm kindle]

BOOOOOOORING

[marsh ibex]

he literally stretches

[silk zodiac]

i really wish jake had a pickaxe

[lone crown]

Me when I see an awesome lesbian couple 🐴

[silk zodiac]

wdym rigby and mordecai haven’t been added yet

[vivid belfry]

intimidating shapeshifting dog

[heady iron]

finn fires a kamehameha at master chief, hits the griddy, and dies

[shell yacht]

Wait wouldn't that make any scene that has bubblegum Marceline and unicorn in it that meme

[glossy berry]

i mean true but like
something vaguely Off about it in the humanoid proportions in stylised fortnite art lol

[marsh ibex]

It’s Mordecai and Rigby not rigby and mordecai

[lament lotus]

YOOO

[shell yacht]

I want to say fortnite already had lesbians but none immediately spring to mind

[vivid belfry]

only one lesbian this time

[dusty nimbus]

Hatsune Miku

[lone crown]

Peter Griffin and Hatsune Miku in the corner pickaxing each other to death

[marsh ibex]

pretty sure they’re both bi

[viscid wind]

i wanted to get miku but I don't want to play fortnite

[vivid belfry]

damn, we're missing quota

[silk zodiac]

i’m starting a new era

[marsh ibex]

No you ain’t

[shell yacht]

I can't believe I'm about to boot up fortnite to go check the roster for lesbians

[lone crown]

Bi? Where're you headed?

[viscid wind]

and anime skin cringe so I wouldn't be able to play it even

[silk zodiac]

as you should king

[viscid wind]

(i play with friends exclusivel)

[vivid belfry]

-meowskulls
-jonesy
that's it

[shell yacht]

I mostly just have battle pass skins so I'll probably don't have any myself

[uncut citrus]

not enoguh lesbians bad game

[shell yacht]

I bought like three skins with earned points over the years

[silk zodiac]

the fn crew skin that’s out rn is actually kinda cool imo

[glossy berry]

does silksong hit the lesbian quota or is that also not going to be good

[viscid wind]

i have the katt skin

[viscid wind]

from last year february crew, very cool skin good investment, very powerful, very beautiful

[elder wind]

That does bring up a good question. Hornet doesn't look all that different from Ghost, but she was born of the Pale King and Herrah, not contaminated by Void. So does she have a face under the mask?

[vivid belfry]

she doesn't have a mask

almost nobody in hollow knight has a mask

stop listening to insane hermits

[lilac gyro]

i walk in and see this shit

[uncut citrus]

imo it will hit it

[lilac gyro]

can i kill fortnite alr

[silk zodiac]

maybe the hollow knight wears a mask with a smile for hours at a time…

[lilac gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-dio-dio-brando-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-anime-gif-15226518859635657575

[shell yacht]

BMO !!!

[silk zodiac]

yeah bmo is lit

[viscid wind]

does anyone here speak c++ opengl

[vivid belfry]

bmo brando

[dusty nimbus]

What are your feelings about the lack of lesbians in hk?

[lilac gyro]

ik c++ is that good enough

[heady iron]

I accidentally took 50000 extra IUs of vitamin D2 and now I feel nauseous

[viscid wind]

how the fuck do i store shader programs

[lilac gyro]

uhhh

[silk zodiac]

since i’m broke and didn’t do stw vbucks all month i can’t get shit from adventure time but my goated friend might get me jake

[lilac gyro]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shell yacht]

THE SNAIL

[heady iron]

kid named compile to spirv

[shell yacht]

The snail is in the BMO emote

[silk zodiac]

yes vro that emote is the best one

absolute peak

[lilac gyro]

can yall stop glazing fortnite

[shell yacht]

No

[silk zodiac]

idc cuh

[lilac gyro]

:(

[heady iron]

people can like games

[silk zodiac]

skibidi miku is peak

[heady iron]

anyway let's talk about why rain world is shit

[shell yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793128374213279776/1331097120668651622/MikuMikuBeam.gif

[viscid wind]

i guess i could use a map with a string and an unsigned int that could be cool

[lilac gyro]

why tf did you delete thast

[shell yacht]

Is Sabrina Carpenter a lesbian

[viscid wind]

THANK YOU

[lilac gyro]

??? i didnt say anything lmao

[silk zodiac]

flashback to when i got kicked one game for teaming because they were mesmerized

[uncut citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/howtobasic-how-to-basic-curry-fighting-weird-gif-12939594756423550269

[silk zodiac]

hello my scarab

[smoky nebula]

Grey mourner

[heady iron]

do you think howtobasic is Ari Gibson's cousin

[lilac gyro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/opengl/comments/76tn8w/best_practices_for_organising_many_shader/?rdt=49624

[sinful flare]

wtf i was noticed

[silk zodiac]

have you been inting or are you getting ready for super fun exams

[viscid wind]

too late i already made a thing that i will probably terribly terribly regret later

[sinful flare]

ive been negatively productive

[lilac gyro]

glad to be of service ig

[sinful flare]

idk if i iwll hop leaue but if we are like 4 or 5 in swiftplay or smth i can join

[coarse wave]

silksong when?

[pliant juniper]

no skins

[sinful flare]

i also want to tft

to show off my epic tactician i got

[uncut citrus]

i havetn tft for so long

[shell yacht]

OH WAIT I DO HAVE 1 LESBIAN

[lament igloo]

I beg your pardon?

[silk zodiac]

i prob won’t be on league but maybe tonight since uh i moved my pc irl cuz renovations

[sinful flare]

tft double up rn

[glossy berry]

oh????
diversity win

[heady iron]

I own titanfall 2 as well

[lament igloo]

Rain world, shit ?

[heady iron]

dude magneto's right there

fym 1 lesbian

[lament igloo]

You must have died a lot to a vulture.

[silk zodiac]

now i must… put the pieces together…

[fiery burrow]

Korra.. 😔

[glossy berry]

my butch king

[shell yacht]

Oh and mystique(?) actually she has a lot going on I'm not exactly sure what that falls under

[trim estuary]

my personal favorite lesbian fortnite character

[atomic sparrow]

🗣️ it was difficult to put the pieces together !

[dusty nimbus]

I forgot mb

[heady iron]

Jonesy is so FtM goals

[gray parcel]

Holy crap, DONALD TRUMP??

[trim estuary]

how DARE you

[heady iron]

hello peter

[heady iron]

welcome to fortnite

[lament mango]

Howdy, how's life yall?

[lone crown]

Excluding colo zote and fakeouts there are 46 HK bosses. SS isn't even out and we've seen 20+, did they show too much

[gray parcel]

Bad without ghost of Yōtei

[trim estuary]

20 is 1/5th of 100 so

[glossy berry]

20????
am i stupid what am i forgetting

[uncut citrus]

i decide to read it as related to the amount of lesbians in HK convo

[glossy berry]

how many did we see in hk promo material

[lament mango]

Same, now that silksong has been confirmed and we've got the closest thing to bloodbrone 2 We'll ever have, I don't have anything else to rant about

My one perosnality trait.... gone forever.....

[shell yacht]

Legally distinct bloodborne 2 lol

I can't wait till it comes out on PC

[lament igloo]

Fr

[glossy berry]

even it is just effectively nightreign 2 itll be so good

[lament mango]

I think we've seen.... moss bee, entertainer man, red ant queen, robot, fucking uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh some dudes covered in steel

Yeah I can't think of any others, and I binged all of mossbags silksong videos last night

[wild plinth]

You really forgot about lace

[lament mango]

Ngl the pvp aspect does still turn me off

[glossy berry]

slightly hesitant there yeah

[lament mango]

Ah true, but she's a double boss fight

[glossy berry]

bellbeast

[pliant juniper]

is that a hyena

[warm kindle]

Yessir

[lament mango]

Wasn't that the fast travel dude

[heady iron]

hell naw not Dave as a boss

[lone crown]

It'll definitely be like a MMC 100%

[opaque sigil]

vault keepers being a boss is a stretch really

as is the cook, and dave

[lone crown]

Aren't they described as a late-game trio? And one of them has a strong buildup considering they watch you

[glossy berry]

mhm
you have to fight it though lol

[wild plinth]

They said that we have to beat the shit out of it first

[lament mango]

See to me like 3 of these enemeis look to be more just big enemeis then bosses

[opaque sigil]

that doesn't mean it's a boss fight

[lone crown]

Fiiiiiiine

[viscid wind]

I doubt the drill thingies are bosses tbh

[pliant juniper]

one of them is just a cone

[lone crown]

I think they are

[opaque sigil]

the drill thingies are absolutely bosses have you even seen the clip

[lone crown]

100%

[shell yacht]

Dave, conehead, the walking skull that trashes the town and ass Jim don't look like proper bosses imo

[lone crown]

I associated the cook with a boss since in the segment of the trailer it was thrown in a bunch of bosses

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/JSfuFlhsxZY?t=60

[wild plinth]

Ass jim is a boss fight?

[heady iron]

I bet those bouncing red cone things hornet uses comes from those fellas

ashes of war ah

[ember violet]

Isn't the flying robot just a random enemy

[shell yacht]

Hmmm

[ember violet]

Also this big flying bug next to the red drill

[lone crown]

I think the giant skull thing is a boss fight, and a recurring foe. Like for instance, you see it fuck up Bonebottom, then later in the xbox trailer you see it again in a crumbling place. Could make for a memorable type of hunt that poses a big threat to bonebottom

[viscid wind]

massive goomba charger

[lone crown]

Likely introductory to the hunts

[stark prism]

isnt it kinda funny how there are at least two different crests that bring back the old pogo style from hollow knight

[pliant juniper]

massive skull emoji charger

[lone crown]

No, the robot is part of Sharpe's assassin trio

[stark prism]

the default diagonal downslash probably isnt all that satisfying to use

[shell yacht]

Even looking at that clip the cones look weird

[ember violet]

The guy next to ass jim looks kinda the map guy (or a girl idk) maybe that's the "master" he's looking for

[lone crown]

I think creating bosses that are less noteworthy but still refreshing and new/original are a great idea for the Grand Hunt system

[stark prism]

yea i wanna see what a plumed rhino looks like

[lone crown]

The Keto guy is definitely not shakra

[stark prism]

sounds friggin awesome

[lone crown]

Related? idk

[viscid wind]

Is ass jim the big butt thingy

[wild plinth]

Yes

[ember violet]

Kinda simmilar?

[lone crown]

Nope not the same

But yeah definitely very similar

[stark prism]

vaugely similar body type ig

[glossy berry]

in just trailers

• gruz mother
• false knight
• broken vessel
• soul warrior
• mantis lords
• hornet
• dung defender
• oblobbles
• soul master
• gorb
• hornet 2
• thk briefly

we'll be fine lmao

[pliant juniper]

not really

[kindred pewter]

100% that dude is cut from the game

[ember violet]

Trobbio gives me Grimm vibes

[lament lotus]

this dinky fuck is not a boss

[viscid wind]

I think that's the thing

[kindred pewter]

diny

[pliant juniper]

zote vibes

[lone crown]

Ok updated

[kindred pewter]

oh you meant dinky smh

[lament lotus]

whats ass jim,s name even man

[normal token]

How are the vault guys debatable?

[kindred pewter]

ass jim is not a boss just a mini boss like soul warrior (pantheon fucking lies)

[lone crown]

Look, HK had some shitty bosses that counted as bosses

Im definitely keeping ass jim in there

And dave

[kindred pewter]

again, warrior boss is a mini boss pantheon fucking sucks and TC doesn't know the lore of their game

[atomic sparrow]

hk has no lore !

[kindred pewter]

I can accept moss charger being a boss but not soul warrior

[atomic sparrow]

hk is all lore !

[pliant juniper]

hes in godhome so hes a boss

[lone crown]

All we've seen from ass jim is an ass slam, plus a few frames where he's covered in maggots

[kindred pewter]

GODHOME LIES!!!

[lament mango]

So is zote

[barren sequoia]

The soul sanctuary is like one of the only dungeon like areas in hollow knight

[pliant juniper]

gpz is a boss too ig

[lone crown]

Plus ass jim is likely a duo boss, OR just enemies, also considering there's a corpse on the floor that looks like jim but isnt jim

[barren sequoia]

Soul warrior was probably meant to be a minibkss

[pliant juniper]

oh regular zote

[kindred pewter]

godhome more like farthome they put a mini boss as a boss

[pliant juniper]

uh hes also a boss

[barren sequoia]

But because there really arent any other instances of that in the game he had to become a regular boss

[lament mango]

Naw they ain't just bosses, their GODS

Atleast acording to godseeker

[austere flame]

boys rate this kitty

[glossy berry]

gruz mother and mmc and the like are definitely minibosses

[kindred pewter]

"hmm, this creatures using grass as it's armor, clearly a god!!!"

[glossy berry]

not a boy but solid 9/10

[kindred pewter]

again, another instance godhome is made out of lies and deception

[wild plinth]

Multiple creatures actually

[kindred pewter]

they don't even know what a boss is

[pliant juniper]

7/10 no eys

[kindred pewter]

fixed the message

[viscid wind]

They got a vengefly in the hall of gods

[lament mango]

I rate this one 10/10 cuz all cats are good kitties

[pliant juniper]

yeah thats a boss

[kindred pewter]

ok vengefly I can sorta understand, just not moss charger and fucking SOUL WARRIOR

[viscid wind]

No like just a statue of a vengefly in the background I think

[lament mango]

Here's my question, if moss charger is a god then why not also include the most powerful being in hallownest

The primal aspid

[kindred pewter]

you need to have an IQ test to pass the "are you a god" test

the moss charger is just smarter than primal aspids

[lament mango]

Their also a collective

[pliant juniper]

yeah but hes not like in the pantheons so hes probably not a god/boss

[lament mango]

Literally 20 moss chargers in a trench coat

[glossy berry]

the moss charger cheated its like 8 guys in a trenchcoat

[kindred pewter]

godseekers are just dumb

[glossy berry]

its a statue in the hall of gods lmao

all the husks are there too

[lament mango]

I mean they call the Flukmarm "The alluring god of motherhood" so I wouldn't call them experts in terms of divinity

[wild plinth]

Do we have to take the godseekers words as fact? They just seem like crazy cultists to me

[pliant juniper]

radiance infection -> god related

[kindred pewter]

they're stupid cultists

[glossy berry]

they are infact stupid cultists yeah

[wild plinth]

So just because there in the pantheon doesnt have to mean that they are literal gods right?

[lament mango]

Can't wait for godhome to come back in silksong, and for the final boss in the pantheon of Pharloom to be the shade lord

[glossy berry]

got ditched by their last gods

[fiery burrow]

No

[pliant juniper]

ik this is a joke but this sounds lowk fire

[fiery burrow]

Godseeker uses god in a specific way their conclusions are accurate because its their word

[lament mango]

Ngl I always figured the gods of storm fucking died and the godseekers just didn't notice

[opaque sigil]

they noticed

that is why they left

[glossy berry]

no they did notice thats the entire entry from that place yeah

[opaque sigil]

and why godseeker talks about the corpses of pretender gods being all around

[lament mango]

It does acutally, i doubt they'll do that but I'd be all for void corrupted godhome and hornet doing her own god tier bullshit

God I still need to do God home

[ember violet]

Why would you consider ass Jim to be a shitty boss he's literally perfect

[lament mango]

It's been literal years since I did HK, I really should just start a new save file and play from scrath

[glossy berry]

can we not bring godhome back actually its not very good

[lone crown]

Only shitty in the sense of his body odour

[lament mango]

Listen i love god home.... I just wish I was better at jt

[lone crown]

Godhome sucks regardless of skill

[lament mango]

Naw when I say I wish I was better, I've not even done the FIRST PANTHEON yet

I've not even done the final trial of fools

[glossy berry]

hk players on their way to do a boss rush that is 60% tedium filler for the worst ending in the game

[heady iron]

I hope once ss releases there’s zero explanation of how all endings are canon like tc said

[lament mango]

Did the path of pain tho that was all thanks to the hiveblood charm

[vivid belfry]

this is likely

[heady iron]

Gives mossbag plenty of content

[lone crown]

Yeah its 100% going to be ambiguous

[vivid belfry]

I'd be surprised if hallownest is referenced in any capacity

maybe if there are any weaver NPCs who aren't already dead

[lament mango]

Inb4 it turns our hallownest just got fucking carpetbombed so the ending doesn't matter

[glossy berry]

im sure we'll get a bit of dialogue here and there from hornet and weavers but its very standalone yeah

which i appreciate tbh

[lament mango]

Who would won: One knight or a hydrogen bomb?

[kindred pewter]

the "all endings are canon" was from ages ago so it'll probably be retconned from TC

[vivid belfry]

damage is capped at 2 without overcharm, knight clears easy

[glossy berry]

i very much doubt it

[vivid belfry]

why would they need to retcon it

[lone crown]

In Hallownest they had the attitude of it being the last and only civilization cause of PK propaganda and whatnot with the beacon

If Pharloom is more advanced with its technology and infrastructure and etc, they might even have a world map somewhere (or at least, a WIP of sorts). Like Sharpe for instance, he was tasked with hunting down Hornet but he himself hails from another kingdom

[vivid belfry]

pharloom's story isn't contingent on what went down in hallownest so the ending doesn't really matter for the events of the second game

[lone crown]

Maybe we'll hear of some kingdoms by name

[opaque sigil]

Do you count hornet saying she used tools foreign to Pharloom

[kindred pewter]

the reason why they might retcon depends whether silksong is a sequel or prequel

[lone crown]

Or at least very loose acknowledgements to them

[vivid belfry]

not yet

[glossy berry]

mhm mhm
no ending meaningfully impacts hornet so it just. doesnt matter lmao

[opaque sigil]

They have no reason to retcon it either way

[lone crown]

EtV turns Hornet into void

[lament mango]

Ngl this just makes me think that while the corpses were rising in hallownest and all of civilization was ending, there's a none zero chance some random bugs were looking out across a beach, sipping margaritas, going "The fuck they doing over there?"

[glossy berry]

hornet already was void wdym

[lone crown]

Genuinely true

[lament mango]

Mossbag: has a psychotic break down

[kindred pewter]

hornet turning into void might be a fire ending in pharloom, a dark ending if you will

[vivid belfry]

zote is from the mimosa beach kingdom but he's too stupid to tell what danger is so as far as he's concerned nothing has changed

[fiery burrow]

hornet is NOT void

[lone crown]

Bretta went to the kingdom of no bitches

Ogrim went to the kingdom of shit

[lament mango]

Man just goes back at the ending to hallownest, turns out he has a hot wife and he's grumpy cuz he was expecting more glory

[lone crown]

Mr. mushroom went to Adelaide

[livid tree]

zote is from ohio

[livid tree]

why would you want to go to adelaide

[viscid wind]

how would we even have boss replayability in silksong without godhome....

[lone crown]

To buy some Little Boomey

[lament mango]

We'd go to the new boss rush area.... uhhhh silkhome

[heady iron]

Instead of pantheons they’ll be called recitals 🔥

[lone crown]

Hornet is an actual character with personality, have her just fall asleep in a bed and project her past, like a dream. Have her refight bosses she's seen before

[heady iron]

or performances

[livid tree]

wait will hornet speak

[vivid belfry]

or just put it as an option in the menu

[livid tree]

in dialogue

[lone crown]

Yes

[viscid wind]

Yes

[vivid belfry]

like they did in the olden days

[lone crown]

My idea is cooler

Wrong reply

[livid tree]

what idea

[vivid bison]

Just do Godhome?

[lone crown]

My idea is cooler

[livid tree]

oh

[viscid wind]

Godhome is bad

[lament mango]

I like da godhome tho

[normal token]

Hornet screaming "I'VE PLAYED THESE GAMES BEFORE"

[lament mango]

I only wish it was easier to get to

[shell yacht]

Puppet show

[viscid wind]

????

[lone crown]

If hornet is a true hunter by nature it'd make sense if she hunted even in her dreams

[viscid wind]

I think it's too easy to get to.

[fiery burrow]

This is how it should've happened in HK too

[viscid wind]

should be locked to after 3 dreamers tbh tbh

[glossy berry]

its not difficult to get to its just tedious

[lone crown]

Yeah since the knight isn't actually hollow

[lament mango]

It's all the way in the trash Heap, far away from the stag beetle stations

[glossy berry]

thats a lot of godhome tbf

[fiery burrow]

anyway I need song recommendations

[viscid wind]

Silk

[lament mango]

Just annoying to go back to whenever I decide to explore and shit or check some new bosses

[lament mango]

Anything from warframe 1999

[wild plinth]

What type of music do you listen to

[viscid wind]

ew no video game ost

[lone crown]

Which is why a bed system is 100% better, you'd be able to access it easily and at anytime

[terse cloak]

Skong

[lone crown]

During any point of the game

[fiery burrow]

Good music

[viscid wind]

I'VE SILKED THESE SONGS BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!

[lament mango]

You assume there's multiple beds

[lone crown]

No i dont. I still mean one bed

[fiery burrow]

I'm just trying to listen to new stuff give me whatever you want

[terse cloak]

[glossy berry]

ginkgo from panchiko

[lament mango]

Knowing team cherry they'd stick the one bed in the game behind the path of pain 2.0, followed by 3 locked doors and a FIRE

[glossy berry]

the album

[wild plinth]

Undisclosed desires by muse

[viscid wind]

the dear hunter antimai

[lone crown]

Yeah? You know Team Cherry? Name every hair follicle on Jack Vine's scalp.

[viscid wind]

7

[lament mango]

Ok were gonna be here awhile then

[glossy berry]

trick question they shaved him bald

[barren sequoia]

? Jacks bald

He went bald due to working on silksong and the constant stress

[lament mango]

Is he bald bald or shaved bald

Cuz shaved you still have hair follicles

[fossil pawn]

I have to play metroidvanias everyday to stop the tweaking pains for skong

[fiery burrow]

Good stuff

[barren sequoia]

Bald bald

Eyebrows as well

[heady iron]

So young…

[lament mango]

I SEE FOLLICLES

Either that or he's a Really messy eater

[heady iron]

anyway before yada yada privacy violation this is from his public profile

[lament mango]

Oh i assumed that, this looks like a selfie or a profile picture

[pliant juniper]

erm uh

variations on a cloud

[polar stag]

We apparently got a Hornet body pillow now wtf

[pliant juniper]

what

[wild plinth]

???

[uncut citrus]

who told you this bait

[pliant juniper]

i almost looked up hornet body pillow to check

thankfully i did not fall for the bait

[polar stag]

There is a Hornet body pillow for sale. Primacon made a video on it

[lament mango]

Who?

[uncut citrus]

oh Primacon told you this bait, makes sense

😌

[polar stag]

Yes Ik Primacon but it's real

[heady iron]

holy shit it's real
https://pixers.us/body-pillows/f-a-18-hornet-371552

[formal marsh]

oh man

[pliant juniper]

no fucking way

[viscid wind]

Unless it's official idk how it's silksong news

primaweird

[uncut citrus]

adding to cart instantly

[polar stag]

That is definitely not the one I saw

[uncut citrus]

omnly 200usd

[empty musk]

yeah its high quality material, id say its solid if you already have a base pillow

[viscid wind]

buying!

[coarse leaf]

200 USD what the fuck

[empty musk]

its great, enjoy

[shell yacht]

I might get to ban a YouTuber soon

[coarse leaf]

The hornet fa18 body pillow link is fine but primacon is against the rules of ofcourse

[chilly crane]

If you buy body pillows of fictional characters you should be executed

[short gate]

silksong is coming out in 2020

[empty musk]

nah but at least its gonna come out in 2023

[brittle garnet]

I think we're all not ready for how different Silksong will be from HK

[pliant juniper]

yeah

[uncut citrus]

"fictional" here implies thats wrose than getting ones of non-fictional people

[short gate]

goku will def be ready

[empty musk]

true the 3d twist area is gonna hit

[pliant juniper]

if you buy body pillows you should be executed

[heady iron]

if you buy you should be executed

[lament lotus]

you should probably be in tortured

[lament lotus]

LMAOOOOO

[shell yacht]

I thought this feature was gone

[heady iron]

why is the logo ungayed

[lament lotus]

oh this is an old image

[chilly crane]

Rehabilitation

[pliant juniper]

you should be excecuted

[uncut citrus]

it is, this is a screen from feb 2024

[viscid wind]

my friend says he still gets ai overviews of conversations

[uncut citrus]

i have an image that goes with it too 😌

[lament lotus]

this is awesome but the fingers are cursed

[leaden delta]

☹️

[empty musk]

this is nice did you draw this?

[viscid wind]

weeirdd as hell

[polar stag]

but also wtf. someone is down bad for Hornet

[pliant juniper]

what are the reasons

[polar stag]

nsfw

[pliant juniper]

ooh

[glossy berry]

slow news day at vice huh

[pliant juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[stable eagle]

no is sora ai

[heady iron]

uh oh

[glossy berry]

ew wtf

[fiery burrow]

Its already a risque topic so its time to shut up and talk about Monster Hunter Wilds

[heady iron]

https://tenor.com/view/execute-your-execution-gif-3493486084192590959

[formal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-life-that-shall-he-your-quest-for-today-get-a-life-wizard-joel-g-ena-gif-15884287343639894566

[lone crown]

You might want to delete this btw

[lament lotus]

oh fuck you

[barren sequoia]

I do wonder like how hornets dress works

[polar stag]

done

[barren sequoia]

I imagine its more like an overcoat and buttons

[pliant juniper]

chat throw tomatoes at this guy

[barren sequoia]

Because she aint fitting her big ass head through those holes

[lament lotus]

ai art is really advancing man

[glossy berry]

it doesnt matter given this is ai but true

fashion breakdown of pharloom when

[fiery burrow]

I dunno if Hornet actually takes off her cloak like ever

[lone crown]

No its actually her skin

[polar stag]

well bells seem to be a common theme

[glossy berry]

might be as fundamental to her as the "mask" is

[pliant juniper]

the needle thing isn't symetrical but the rest looks fine???

[uncut citrus]

the website you linked had the pillow image on it

🥹

[stable eagle]

sorry

[lone crown]

Yep which is why I asked to delete it lmfao

[barren sequoia]

Is it even technically considered a dress?

[lone crown]

Just for their own sake

[glossy berry]

brush strokes look a lil weird

[barren sequoia]

It barely hidez her legs and covrrs the entirely of her neck

[brittle garnet]

the image isnt actualy nsfw tho

[pliant juniper]

do we forgive him or do we publicly excecute him

[fiery burrow]

Sexual content is banned anyway

[lone crown]

I think the second one is evocative enough

[brittle garnet]

point tho is it's not official and people can sell limited runs of their own HK merch as per Team Cherry policy

[stable eagle]

noooooo

[dusty nimbus]

We should get more poisonart with nightshade

[empty musk]

wth, i trusted you

[stable eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sorry-im-sorry-stitch-apologetic-gif-11297488457718237801

[uncut citrus]

the first one is as bad tbh but i digress because this is not a discussion we want to have 😌

[brittle garnet]

i think it can safely be called a cloak

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[pliant juniper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1074774873429262386/HeySoIMadeAFakeModPingEmoteBruh.gif

kill that guy

[shell yacht]

Don't post that shit here

[stable eagle]

I didn't say I drew it

[shell yacht]

Why the fuck are y'all still talking about that

[lone crown]

This gif always works

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970814595818196992/1358113197697273908/Hector.gif

[dusty nimbus]

Ban hammer bug

[lone crown]

smh screw nintendo for using this clip for a sizzle reel

[uncut citrus]

wiggly

[heavy mason]

I love the creature

[lone crown]

Not even dropping the footage they were given

[glossy berry]

am i a fake skong fan what did we name him again

[lone crown]

his name is HECTOR

[pliant juniper]

hammer hector

[dusty nimbus]

Hector the cheese collector

[uncut citrus]

coudnt you calculate the rate of the zooming out so you can take a smooth capture of it? or is it inconsistant?

[glossy berry]

i love him dearly

[pliant juniper]

you could go through every frame and center it perfectly

[lone crown]

Idk, im not an editing expert
Mossbag did it perfectly in his video

So you could take his footage and make a gif of it

Dude it literally says openai in the link

[formal marsh]

are you sure your brother did it?

[pliant juniper]

LMAO

[formal marsh]

[heavy mason]

Huh

[pliant juniper]

lies and propaganda

[glossy berry]

lmfao what

[lone crown]

They dropped another ai art thing

[dusty nimbus]

I tell you we need to use more nightshade to poison the prompts

[leaden delta]

Probably

[pliant juniper]

btw can ai do pixel art

[glossy berry]

not well

[pliant juniper]

probably not right

@stable eagle do you hae any ai generated pixel art

[glossy berry]

tbf all ai art has tells somewhere its either brush strokes being fucked or stylisation features or inconsistent line width

[pliant juniper]

no one can be bothered to analyze every single piece of art they see

[glossy berry]

i feel like encouraging them to send more probably isnt a great idea lmao

[pliant juniper]

i wanna know though

[dusty nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1132523894943789056/1359812047528919160/Dice.gif

[leaden delta]

ai “””art””” ☹️☹️☹️☹️

[stable eagle]

My brother sent it to me😢

[pliant juniper]

this feels like lies

advanced tactic

[dusty nimbus]

Ai generated image but that's a mouthful

[pliant juniper]

ai image

[lone crown]

AI slop is a better term

[uncut citrus]

silksong slops better

[shell yacht]

"that shit"

[glossy berry]

dont even call it art in any capacity no lmao

[fiery burrow]

Why did chat get mid

[lone crown]

Cause you appeared

[pliant juniper]

LMAO

[fiery burrow]

shrue

[heavy mason]

Hmm

[uncut citrus]

probably a compliment because the prior quality of chat was less than average

[dusty nimbus]

@uncut citrus remember when you did daily frame post? That was peak

[lone crown]

Dogpiling on someone for posting AI is more entertaining

[uncut citrus]

what about daily ss-disc quote wasnt that peak 😔

[fiery burrow]

when was the last daily ss quote

[lone crown]

Wasnt that my idea that was abruptly stolen when I got banned for the second time

Or was it daily mod quote?

[uncut citrus]

8 months ago

[lone crown]

I think it was daily mod quote

[leaden delta]

probably

[dusty nimbus]

I don't remember that actually

...Dementia

[leaden delta]

I like the distinction though

[stable eagle]

sorry it wasn't the intention

[fiery burrow]

ancient

[uncut citrus]

that was like for three times as much time

[leaden delta]

though I do think it only works in text tho

[lone crown]

ASIZFJIJF){G

[leaden delta]

I’ll call it slop or images in vc

[fiery burrow]

Anyway AI art can go pretty hard sometimes

[dusty nimbus]

I don't remember when I stopped being active here and left the server

I only remember le epic Reeve screams

[robust crest]

ew

[pliant juniper]

real or slop

[empty musk]

we need to be posting more real art in this chat

[shell yacht]

Is that actually ai

[lone crown]

No thats official art im sure of it, ive 100% seen that before

[hollow beacon]

what on earth bro

[fiery burrow]

Its real

[leaden delta]

I can link real touhou art

[fiery burrow]

I was told it "reeks of AI" though

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/kaguya-boom-explotion-touhou-project-kaguya-boom-gif-27657364

[pliant juniper]

i dont think so the teeth flesh details are perfectly symetrical

[leaden delta]

https://x.com/hane_azl/status/1911039442024042725?s=46

ファビ山 (@hane_azl) on X

東方　鬼人正邪　touhou kijin seijya

X · Apr 12, 2025, 12:51 PM

[fiery burrow]

Lives in my head rent free honestly

[viscid wind]

this doesn't look 1 bit ai what

[stable eagle]

I use it as my profile picture on Instagram, I found it on Pinterest

[dusty nimbus]

Why is it here?

Why was this discussion here?

What is the point of life?

[stable eagle]

downt exist

[devout halo]

Seems like it, id try to find the original artist

[devout halo]

There is actual art which does resemble how AI art looks so

It's important to be careful

[shell yacht]

Source your art

[devout halo]

Huh? Like art that looks like ai?

Itd take me a while to find some but I could

[pliant juniper]

source: i made it the fuck up and then put it on a piece of paper

[devout halo]

I hate ai slop..

[serene otter]

no

[shell yacht]

Ok serr

[serene otter]

Dw that image is like 7 years old

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-cooking-hunter-palico-gif-13001496437032412730

This is AI

[serene otter]

Dude your pfp is so fucked up

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon's-dogma-2-dd2-cooking-meat-steak-gif-12775118055620428654

[stable eagle]

I found the original photo on Facebook

[serene otter]

Like if u get the reference it becomes immediately f*ed up..............

[pliant juniper]

what the fuck is going on with that creature in the backround

[devout halo]

Oh sick could you send

[stable eagle]

https://www.facebook.com/Sonic8a/posts/art/461379491013801/

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-palico-pet-cute-gif-2310012519091958170

This is the creature in question

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-mhwilds-palico-explode-gif-318733812814556897

[pliant juniper]

oh

i thought it had like two heads or something

[lone crown]

I love the different hunt success animations

Like the one where the seikret comes in for a hug but falls on you

[night silo]

i died to markoth

again

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-seikret-gif-16976695053752419057

[night silo]

[lone crown]

Deserved

[night silo]

why :<<

what did i do to you :<

[lone crown]

Mod him out of the game silly

[night silo]

i wanna beat p5 legit :<

[glossy berry]

fool in your legitimate opinion what is the worst hk boss

obviously a lot of them arent good but

which one comes out on top to you

[fiery burrow]

There's only one correct answer and its Elder Hu

[wild plinth]

No eyes is annoying

[lone crown]

Hm

[lone crown]

Elder Hu is actually respectable even among dream warriors. Also a better fight without shade cloak

[fiery burrow]

He's very unengaging

[stoic sigil]

Hop on Silksong guys

[lone crown]

Yeah, especially the attack that draws the fight out longer

[fiery burrow]

Heck you can't even hit him for like 25% of the fight

[glossy berry]

its a hell of a lot of downtime and nothing in a game where most bosses are damage sponges and incentivise aggressive gameplay

[brittle garnet]

i think the worst boss would be the most boring one and therefore it's Flukemarm 100%

[glossy berry]

i can see why people dont like the guy

[pliant juniper]

time to give myself invinciblility and kill absolute radiance legit

[lone crown]

Anyway uhhhh

Hmmmm

[smoky nebula]

No eyes is right there

[glossy berry]

id say i cant tell if youre struggling because theres so many good ones or so many bad

but i think i know the answer lmao

[night silo]

hu is so boring

[lone crown]

No eyes is not the worst

[lone crown]

There's so many bad ones

[glossy berry]

there really are T-T

[lone crown]

I literally opened up a tier list just to answer your question, and ive split the boss roster into "fine" and "questionable"

[glossy berry]

quant over qual situation

lmfao

yeah no its dire

[lone crown]

Now i have to divide the questionable ones between "questionable" and "more questionable"

[glossy berry]

can we see the full image of separated boss tiers when youre done or is that too big an ask

[lone crown]

Also i dont know which iteration to count for fights like uumuu, since I hate the base game variant but prefer the godhome variant

Cause at least aiming the jellies is fun

[glossy berry]

lets go with base for the sake of getting to ignore that godhome exists

[fiery burrow]

You can't use them to screamskip winged nosk 💔

[lone crown]

To determine the worst boss, im trying to find one with zero redeeming qualities, or the least

Like nosk is a stinky boss, but nosk has a ton of coolness to it

The buildup

[pliant juniper]

winged nosk

[lone crown]

yeah thats like bottom of the barrel

[pliant juniper]

the second you see hornet standing there you know whats going on

[glossy berry]

winged nosk managed to make vengefly king worse somehow

which is impressive in its own right

[pliant juniper]

i dislike sly though

oops all nail

[lone crown]

I really dislike enraged guardian for being the same fight but yellow beams, and a slightly smaller arena which makes CG even more worthless as a damage sponge

[formal marsh]

oh i got my first death
damn

[lone crown]

I don't really know who the worst dream warrior is

[pliant juniper]

wait nvm godhome uumuu is the worst boss in the game without a doubt

[formal marsh]

whats wrong with godhome uumuu

[lone crown]

I like godhome uumuu over basegame

[glossy berry]

agreed

[formal marsh]

godhome uumuu is the only fight where using dream nail is good (other than cheese)

[lone crown]

Aiming the jellies is awesome and unique and explosions = neuron activation

[opaque sigil]

No eyes

[formal marsh]

and i fw that

worst bossfight is hive knight imo

[fiery burrow]

WHAT

[lone crown]

I dont knowwwwwww

[pliant juniper]

yeah but the floor is gone + i keep blowing my self up

[lone crown]

You're getting blocked

[fiery burrow]

Worlds first hive knight hater

[smoky nebula]

They're all pretty bad

[pliant juniper]

rage bait

[opaque sigil]

Bruh?

[formal marsh]

PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIKE HIVE KNIGHT???

[smoky nebula]

Except markoth he's ok

[formal marsh]

im not baiting i genuinely think he's extremely boring and bland

[marsh ibex]

wow

I’ve never been happier that you guys didn’t look in lore

[dusty nimbus]

Giant Moss charger or Flukemarm

[glossy berry]

you have gotta be the first person ive ever seen since its release to call hive knight mid

[fiery burrow]

Another great day to have images disabled

[marsh ibex]

yeah that’s a good idea

[brittle garnet]

flukemarm definitely, moss charger is at least kind of interesting

[lone crown]

I dont even wanna know

[pliant juniper]

oh

[opaque sigil]

[marsh ibex]

To answer your question

kind of

[smoky nebula]

No I've seen it said before like years ago

[marsh ibex]

That is all I will say

[fiery burrow]

I only see the names of images which is usually funny I've seen someone get banned over a paper mario gif

[opaque sigil]

Hive Knight is decent but a bit easy for its area

[dusty nimbus]

Stand there press the attack button, win no build up, cool arena, mid loot what more to say, flukemarm at least gives you a broken charm

[lone crown]

Hive Knight original theme

https://tenor.com/view/catvibe-gif-18088574

[pliant juniper]

flukemarm is kinda fun to blow up though

[formal marsh]

im genuinely confused as to why people like hive knight

[smoky nebula]

This is actually the usual hive knight critique I hear

[marsh ibex]

flukenest is broken yeah

as in the charm does not function right

[pliant juniper]

uh i havent played the game in months i dont remember

[dusty nimbus]

Literally but in a good way to you

[pliant juniper]

i remember it being not annoying

[lone crown]

I love the thing where it spawns behind you for a sweep, fun to parry

[midnight portal]

hive knight is so fun

[glossy berry]

its a fun fight idk what to say

[smoky nebula]

Also if you want to shit on hive knight, soul warrior is right there

[vivid belfry]

hive knight has a solid moveset, he's just held back by having shockingly low HP for the area he's in

[opaque sigil]

Flukemarm is a sheer dps test but it’s at least something where you’re always pressing buttons unlike fucking no eyes which is mostly waiting

[trim estuary]

low tier bait

[dusty nimbus]

Otherwise theoretical flukenest is garbo

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-26345272

[marsh ibex]

fuck no eyes man

[fiery burrow]

I lost my steel soul run to flukemarm

[marsh ibex]

genuinely one of the most obnoxious bosses I’ve ever seen

[pliant juniper]

skill issue lmao

[opaque sigil]

This requires a failure of judgement ability and morality

[vivid belfry]

no eyes can be extremely obnoxious but it's rng if that happens or not

her and elder hu share this quality

[marsh ibex]

yes I can learn the patterns yes the arena is part of the fight yes she’s not hard but she’s the perfect combination of annoying that makes me want to tear my hair out

[dusty nimbus]

You know what's obnoxious? It's abs rad and her balls

[glossy berry]

worse elder hu in the fact that its just entirely up to chance whether you get to hit her consistently or no

[pliant juniper]

i lost my steel sould run to one of those soul sanctum blobs because the low battery screen opened and it killed me before i could close and reenter the game

[vivid belfry]

isn't this only true in the ascended arena

[dusty nimbus]

Every time I try to get away on plats I end up getting wrecking balled by abs rad

[fossil pawn]

elder hu is cool

[pliant juniper]

me when he just fucking dissapears

[primal horizon]

I did pantheon of hallownest like 3 years later I completed it, and I still got it first try. All this to say, absrad is alright

[lament lotus]

fuck that grandpa

[vivid belfry]

my opinion on no eyes has softened over time and my opinion on elder hu has gotten worse

[glossy berry]

its a far better fight before shade cloak

[opaque sigil]

Lore wise he’s fine fight wise he’s lame

[smoky nebula]

But they have the same problem
You get stuck in a boring stand still where you're just chasing a boss that can barely hit you

[primal horizon]

Yeah hive knight is too easy

[glossy berry]

if not no eyes then hes probably the worst dream warrior lol

complete rng vs the most dull fight possible

[vivid belfry]

no eyes can be completed pretty quickly if you get lucky with teleport rng

[heady iron]

hornet is no more

[smoky nebula]

But I'm unfortunate

[pliant juniper]

kinda based tierlist

[vivid belfry]

most dream warriors just have one little thing keeping them from being good fights

[primal horizon]

Me 3 years ago would’ve hated this tierlist but rn I think this tierlist is based

[wild plinth]

NKG in b? Wow

[smoky nebula]

Sisters of battle below regular mantis lords‽

[dusty nimbus]

Gray Prince Zote is weak, he exists barely on my whim if I feel like playing with bullshit otherwise saving Zote isn't even worth the money HE'S DEAD TO ME

[fiery burrow]

Uhh I don't double check my lists

[devout halo]

I'm curious as to why Sly is in S

[fiery burrow]

Swap them

[fiery burrow]

Fun fight

[silk zodiac]

because sly is the goat

[primal horizon]

I don’t think it’s in any particular order other than the tiers themselves

[pliant juniper]

not really

[devout halo]

I do not fw sly...

[vivid belfry]

for elder hu and no eyes it's random teleport thresholds, for galien and marmu it's jankass knockback behavior, for gorb it's the fact that he takes knockback at all

[fiery burrow]

get out

All these fights would be mid if these problems were fixed

[vivid belfry]

and then there's xero (affectionate) and markoth (fuck yourself) that break this mold

[fiery burrow]

They just don't got the attack variety to be fun

[glossy berry]

i used to hate the guy on release but hes grown on me massively lmao

[fiery burrow]

Sly is interesting to dodge and attack

[glossy berry]

fun boss

[primal horizon]

SLY IS FUN YAH

[fiery burrow]

The narts also spice the fight up quite a lot

[devout halo]

That's fair... I just can't seem to find it enjoyable, something about the attacks being so difficult to fight against, for me at least

[primal horizon]

SAME

[vivid belfry]

you can be a fun boss with 2 attacks as long as it's a short fight

[devout halo]

Probably just a skill issue

[fiery burrow]

Not in HK

[vivid belfry]

yes in HK

[devout halo]

I used to hate watcher knights but now I'm good at them and they're super fun so lets hope that happens with Sly

[vivid belfry]

massive moss charger is fun, gruz mother is fun

[leaden moss]

guys thhe skongf

[fiery burrow]

Because of how simple The Knight's moveset is the game relies on interesting boss movesets to make the game fun

[opaque sigil]

Those fights can get away with being what they are because they’re piss easy and you only have to put up with them for like 30 seconds once

[leaden moss]

you have a nice name youre going in my next dnd campaign

[vivid belfry]

yes that's exactly what I was just saying

[lone crown]

Not to mention none of its projectiles can even touch you if you're at the very bottom platform (normal arena)

In fact I once spawned like 50 no eyes's with debug and none of them could hit

[fiery burrow]

"The fights are good because you get them over with quickly"

[leaden moss]

the humble gruz mother:

[fiery burrow]

Maybe for a first playthrough that would be okay

[devout halo]

Thanks actually

[leaden moss]

gruz mother took me 30 minutes in my first try then i died

[dusk holly]

Guys I did it

[opaque sigil]

It was a subtle jab at godhome for making those fights suuuuuck

[dusk holly]

I beat radiance

[pliant juniper]

holy skill issue

[vivid belfry]

type of guy who pretends not to understand the point I was making

[leaden moss]

yeah i have like 150 hours in the game and 10 of them is gruz mother

the other 10 is the baldur boss

[fiery burrow]

I'm mocking your point

[vivid belfry]

godhome as a whole, they're mostly whatever, all bindings turns them into a torture chamber but this is the case for like every boss in the game

[glossy berry]

hkdisc inventing new types of players by the day

[smoky nebula]

Why

[opaque sigil]

He’s right how complicated a boss is and how long a player can interact with it before they get bored are related

[vivid belfry]

well get it right next time because you're only demonstrating your own lack of understanding

[opaque sigil]

A very simple fight that’s over fast doesn’t have time to get old

[lone crown]

Goated list except bring sly down to A for that one singular hitbox discrepancy
White Defender's hitboxes are immaculate

[fiery burrow]

On repeat playthroughs where I only care about fun fights yes it is old

[vivid belfry]

this is a you problem

[fiery burrow]

Thats how subjectivity works yes

[opaque sigil]

On repeat playthroughs they shouldn’t last long enough to really be that much of a nuisance

[fiery burrow]

The issue isn't that they are a nuisance its that I'm bored

[vivid belfry]

just don't replay the game then

[lone crown]

Early game bosses in video games can be simple while also being fun

[opaque sigil]

I mean at that point most of the game is gonna be boring too

[fiery burrow]

What

[leaden moss]

gruz mother was not simple nor fun

[lone crown]

Thats not the best thing to say when critiquing a game

[lone crown]

Yeah i know

[opaque sigil]

It’s fine actually?

[pliant juniper]

i with there was a gamemode that made bosses harder instead of you just dying one time

[vivid belfry]

I didn't get the impression that it was a critique

[lone crown]

Ah

[vivid belfry]

I replay the game all the time because it kicks ass

[leaden moss]

mods:

[opaque sigil]

The extent to which a game is made to be replayed isn’t universal

[fiery burrow]

The combat for sure

[vivid belfry]

but if you don't find the early game fights fun then there's no reason to not just stick to godhome and keep fighting PV forever

[lone crown]

I slander the game for its faults but only because I love it

[pliant juniper]

im not dealing with mods they make my brain hurt

[pliant juniper]

i lowk do this

[lone crown]

Hot take
Brooding Mawlek is the best early game boss

[fiery burrow]

No because I also want to experience the good map design

[leaden moss]

i recently started a second playthrough after getting all achievements 2 years ago and i personally think not knowing where i should go is the fun part and the game isnt very replayable

[glossy berry]

what are we counting as the threshold for earlygame but true

[fiery burrow]

It is

[pliant juniper]

how tf are you supposed to dodge that one attack without shade cloak or ddive

[vivid belfry]

then there is no answer to your problem

[leaden moss]

brooding mawlek is the first boss i go for

[lone crown]

Jump over her?

[pliant juniper]

oh

[vivid belfry]

the game would be worse off if every boss was designed with a grimm moveset

[leaden moss]

skill

[fiery burrow]

Yes because the bosses aren't good

[lone crown]

It doesnt attack or move while the acid wave is about to fall

[smoky nebula]

I always considered mantis lords early game(like last boss of early game) but if not then probably yeah, either mawlek or hornet 1

[lone crown]

So thats your cue to jump over or pogo

[vivid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[lone crown]

To make it easier, I'll say brooding mawlek is my favorite of the Pantheon 1 bosses

[glossy berry]

the bosses just arent designed for repeat playthroughs lmao this isnt a fault of early game design

you cant expect new players to immediately have the skillset required for complicated fights its why it ramps up

i dont really think i get your point

[smoky nebula]

Honestly yeah

[glossy berry]

in theory godhome would solve that issue but its just mid so

[vivid belfry]

why isn't the game designed around the first area being challenging for people who already beat the game tho

[lone crown]

Godhome kinda tarnishes the early game bosses' reputations ngl. Having endgame abilities for very simple encounters degrades their quality

And makes them a slog/pushover

[fiery burrow]

I'm not asking for difficult fights I just want fun fights

[trim estuary]

the new game plus in my back pocket

[vivid belfry]

they are fun, you just don't understand what fun is

I can assure you gruz mother would not be a better boss for having 6 different attacks

[glossy berry]

remains a tragedy that they left most godhome changes as basic arena mixups tbh

[lone crown]

I wish ascended difficulty actually brought these fights into a newer light than just flat arena change and HP increase

In silksoul, or even whatever replaces bindings/difficulties if they return, I would like them to instead add boss remixes where each boss has a new attack or two, plus any other changes they feel like adding including arena

[glossy berry]

missed opportunity

[leaden moss]

guy

[vivid belfry]

moveset mixups are way too much work for an optional endgame boss library tbh, that kind of thing should be for a dedicated hard mode

[pliant juniper]

i didnt like most of the arena changes in godhome actually

[leaden moss]

when sko ng

[glossy berry]

i dont think the majority of people did no

[vivid belfry]

some of the ascended arenas are good, some of them are bad

[tawny orbit]

So SILKSONG fans…how we doin

[lone crown]

Maybe have the changes be more prominent for the early encounters?

[glossy berry]

no eyes ascended arena having spots where you cant hit her at all is peak game design actually

[leaden moss]

guys wouldnt it be funny if silksong released june 12

[pliant juniper]

turns gruz mother into a platforming challenge instead of a boss fight

[fiery burrow]

I can replay like MHRise or MGRR from scratch and still have a fun time despite the fact that the early game is tailored towards new players because those games have consistently engaging fights

[vivid belfry]

hollow knight has consistently engaging fights

[fiery burrow]

Crystal Guardian:

[vivid belfry]

crystal guardian is fun

[lone crown]

I 👁️ was shivering 🥶 in my timbers 👢 fighting flukemarm

[coarse leaf]

I would also somewhat argue the same thing lol, if i start a hollow knight playthrough now, im going to still have fun fighting the majority of bosses, and i have 900 hours

[pliant juniper]

i wish crystal guardian and traitor lord had thier own music

[lone crown]

Pale Court is peak

Not perfect but still great

[vivid belfry]

counterpoint: the crystal peak action music is awesome and barely plays anywhere else

and CG doesn't really have the stage presence to demand his own music

[pliant juniper]

i just want more hollow knight music man

[vivid belfry]

fair, I just think the action music works really well in the context of what CG is

[lone crown]

Hegemol theme gets good but its so rarely heard cause of how quickly you can end the fight

[vivid belfry]

traitor lord should have his own music though

[glossy berry]

i think crystal guardians rep as a boss is massively diminished by the fact that enraged guardian exists and is just a worse version of the exact same fight

[fiery burrow]

Well I mean I guess we just fundamentally disagree on what fights are fun

[coarse leaf]

EG is better wdym

[vivid belfry]

yes this is basically the only thing you have been saying for the past half hour

[fiery burrow]

Its not though

[lone crown]

I personally think EG is lazy and sucks

It ends faster than CG and is like a damage sponge

[glossy berry]

its just lazy and not great tbh having less space and more damage doesnt make it better

just makes it a sponge like fool's said yea

[coarse leaf]

I dont disagree but i still think just pure fun value the increased speed is more fun

[lone crown]

And i think the piss lasers are less aesthetically awesome compared to the pink

[vivid belfry]

you do not have a game design criticism that could have been addressed in a hypothetical balance patch, you just do not like the design philosophy of the videogame hollow knight

[coarse leaf]

Also very much fair

[lone crown]

But of course, they had to convey the damage increase somehow

[fiery burrow]

Of course if I liked the design philosophy of the bosses I wouldn't be insulting them

[lone crown]

Maybe if the actual laserbeam looked kinda razor-like? That would look really cool

[glossy berry]

i guess? remains a tragedy though yeah i dont love the image of the piss beams when the original iconography fucks

[vivid belfry]

alright well you can vent some other time because this isn't really a discussion now that the kayfabe has dropped

[lone crown]

Like jagged edges along the beam

[vivid belfry]

there's not really anything to say other than "starpengu doesn't like these bosses, isn't that a shame"

[lone crown]

Fractured a bit, he is a bug in crystal after all

[glossy berry]

there's a hell of a lot of ways you could have made it more visually engaging yeah

something tells me EG didnt get a whole lot of thought

[lone crown]

I think Dung Defender is too slow for the point of the game you find him, or well, he has a lot of "idle time"

[vivid belfry]

you can find him really damn early tbf

[lone crown]

I know the sewers are accessible really really early ofc

But like

[glossy berry]

you're almost guaranteed to have dive by then and it entirely cheeses the fight which sucks

[polar stag]

I've been playing so much Sifu recently and I think it's starting to become one of my top 2 fav games under HK.

the combat is so good

[pliant juniper]

i did not have dive

[fiery burrow]

"I don't like the design philosophy of this games bosses because it results in boring encounters on repeat playthroughs" is a discussion. I honestly don't have the faintest clue what you are waffling about

[pliant juniper]

either that or i forgot i had dive

[lone crown]

Yeah

[glossy berry]

the game itself doesnt tell you that you can dive him out the floor tbf

[fiery burrow]

You don't have to agree with me I don't have any issue with that

[vivid belfry]

okay but "I don't like it" isn't an actionable criticism, so say something of substance

[fiery burrow]

I did

[glossy berry]

but when you have to consciously choose not to use the win-con ability against a semi-major fight theres probably smth wrong

[vivid belfry]

"it results in boring encounters on repeat playthroughs" is just saying I don't like it again

[pliant juniper]

i kinda wish there were more enemies that required spells early on too remind you that you had them

[lone crown]

Or you know? Since Enraged Guardian is only accessible with double jump, what if instead you gave it a gimmick that actually utilized it? Like imagine if they took Crystal Guardian and gave it an attack where it can earthbend crystal spikes across the floor, before disappearing?

Just an idea i came up with in five seconds

Theres probably a better implementation

[fiery burrow]

They are boring because they are stagnant and unengaging

[vivid belfry]

this is the same sentence again just rephrased

[fiery burrow]

It isn't

[vivid belfry]

2/10 see me after class

[fiery burrow]

"Nuh uh"

[vivid belfry]

they are boring because they are boring and boring

[glossy berry]

probably, doesnt change the fact that its more effort into the design of the fight than what actually happened lmao