sk-discussion

[lone crown]

Crazy

[lament mango]

You were promised dlc, now it is a game. Therefore you need to pay for the game. Also were you a kickbacker?

[glossy berry]

its gonna drop in summer trust me june july we're gonna ge ta summer release sgf is gonna be big its gonna be sooooo good i cant w-

[fossil pawn]

*fortunately

[stark estuary]

Well it would be common courtesy to provide updates on the game the backers already paid for yes but more importantly they should… get what they paid for without needing to pay extra

[dawn gale]

Trust, Silksong's release date will be announced tonight

[rare belfry]

Would've probably had to pay for the dlc anyway ngl

[wet tulip]

the backers are getting free silksong keys, yes

[paper tinsel]

True

[stark estuary]

If I promise you a car then tell you that actually I’m not making a car anymore now it’s a bus and you have to pay full price for it would you be happy about that

[sour heart]

i meant more in the sense that i couldnt believe they actually announced it for 2025, it was hype as hell

[oblique musk]

Does it match Sekiro in it's schmoovement?

[rancid wadi]

I just beat ancient basin boss and got level 3 nail, should i go to fools colosseum?

[lone crown]

List of confirmed returning Dark Souls bosses in Nightreign:

• DS1 - Centipede Demon
• DS1 - ||Gaping Dragon|| (Leaked footage)
• DS2 - Duke’s Dear Freja
• DS3 - Nameless King
• DS3 - ||Dancer of the Boreal Valley|| (Leaked footage)

[formal marsh]

its gonna drop in southern hemisphere summer

[lone crown]

Yes. Wait here

[formal marsh]

the monkey paw curls its finger

[rare belfry]

You're tripping

[paper tinsel]

DS3 completionists when they see a stair

[lament mango]

Alsp brother had a fundemen misunderstanding of kickstarter

[fiery burrow]

No

[crystal plume]

Fromsoft Channel rename

[rare belfry]

Sticky balls are you unemployed

[dawn gale]

Eagerly watching each day until this sucker switches...

[fossil pawn]

arent we all...

[fiery burrow]

Kickstarter backers were promised it free

[wet tulip]

yap

[dawn gale]

SromSoft-discussion

[sour heart]

on that day a new holiday will be created

[stark estuary]

Yeah and here you are insulting me for funding the game were you even a backer lmao

[sour heart]

in honour of peak

[glossy berry]

backers were literally promised free silksong keys wdym

[rare belfry]

Ok so you're broke

[rare belfry]

It's ok to just say you're broke and can't afford the game bro

[dawn gale]

The flashbacks...

[stark estuary]

Yeah broke people tend to fund indie games that makes sense

[empty musk]

oh my guys, things are getting heated

[glossy berry]

yall are so good at falling for bait good job pack it up

[dawn gale]

Anor...

[rare belfry]

Not necessarily

[crystal plume]

On a real note, how much do you guys think Silksong will cost, and/or what feels like a reasonable price (I think around 25-35$ feels right)

[lament mango]

But silksong was a free hornet update originally not a game, the context and content has changed purely becuase hornet is too tall for hallownest

[polar stag]

This might be unpopular but I actually do get this logic. I was never a kickstarter backer, but I feel like if Kickstarter backers were promised something it should be delivered in some way.

[stark estuary]

Apparently it’s low quality bait the bait expert said so

[empty musk]

they might both be baiting at each other

[fiery burrow]

5th price discussion today

[rare belfry]

You can feed into bait without being mad.

[empty musk]

ive seen far worse dw, its just not my style

[sour heart]

idk y, ive always imagined 30 exactly

[glossy berry]

yes? team cherry still promised backers keys after silksong was announced to become a game?
whats your point

[lament mango]

Think I remebwr why i don't come here during the day time. Yall are cracked

[rare belfry]

🙏 😭

[wet tulip]

this does not change the fact that the backers are getting silksong for free in their chosen platform

[twin marsh]

What's the % of people that came to the nintendo direct for the chance of silksong appearing and what's the % coming to see the actual console

[lament mango]

May i have proof of this? A screen shot or... something

[stark estuary]

You don’t realize how devastating it is to hear this

[sour heart]

man i just wanted some wholesome silksong discussion

[oblique musk]

This Discord server was the Silksong fishing minigame all along.

[empty musk]

[stark estuary]

anyway backers are literally getting SS for free

[lament mango]

I just wanted to shoot the shit and yap about fromeoft games

[glossy berry]

oh this is awesome actually holy shit

[rare belfry]

Good for them

[paper tinsel]

It is painful, although admittedly Sekiro and Elden Ring achievements aren't nearly as bad, Sekiro specifically is a lot of fun

[stark estuary]

So there goes your entire argument

[empty musk]

would you be interested in my digital course?

[dawn gale]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-it's-peak-mid-it's-mid-shaking-head-gif-14930609437819582275

[stark estuary]

Backers were literally promised free SS

[glossy berry]

you are. not in the right place im sorry 😔

[rare belfry]

Silksong will probably be so cheap i would rather just pay to support them

[stark estuary]

You’re not a backer

[sour heart]

i would also do that once i finally get to one

[oblique musk]

Until you have to massacre the entire Japanese Interior Ministry for skill points.

[rare belfry]

I didn't mention them once btw

[stark estuary]

When you pay for something you should get it it has nothing to do with supporting the company

[lone crown]

On top of normal walking speed and regular sprint, there's also a super sprint you can use which makes you move at torrent-speed but uses more stamina

This of course is infinite when not in combat

[lament mango]

Are you getting it cuz of free codes or cux you already admitted your planning on pirating it? As some form of protest

[lone crown]

It actually feels faster than torrent speed ngl

[dawn gale]

How it feels to ignore whatever argument's going on

[paper tinsel]

True but that farming takes very little time, was like 30 minutes for me

[stark estuary]

That doesn’t concern you

[lament mango]

So... your stealing it then

[stark estuary]

type bait to get a free sign up link via DM

[lone crown]

bait

[lament mango]

From indie devs. Because you want it for free cuz you backed a game.... nearly a decade ago and want the sequal for free

[fiery burrow]

Its like discourse bingo man

[empty musk]

check your DMs

[oblique musk]

When you said "torrent speed" I forgot about our convo for a sec and thought you were talking about p*racy.

[lament mango]

What do I get for each bingo?

[lone crown]

From is one of the few AAA shit that still cares about innovating

[stark estuary]

Piracy isn’t theft lmao

What are you on about when you pirate a game the developer loses nothing

[polar stag]

I hope TC puts some kind wacky of anti-piracy measures in place. Whoever pirates the game Hornet silks all over the screen so they can't see anything

[sour heart]

that is a sentence

[glossy berry]

you are about to get sent a virus the likes of which the world hasnt seen since the plague 🙏

[dawn gale]

Torrent with a pirate hat when?

[stark estuary]

It literally is not

[glossy berry]

its a correct sentence

[stark estuary]

This isn’t even bait it… just isn’t

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/bonzi-buddy-look-up-wtf-reading-gif-10133557274644656076

[south vigil]

nah they want game accessible and pirating is peak accessibility

[lament mango]

I'm happy I took advil earlier cuz otherwise I'd be getting a massive headache

[oblique musk]

They're like the opposite of most AAA studios where you get more than what you expected when you buy their stuff. "About the size of limgrave" my ass.

[stark estuary]

Also backers are actually getting the game for free that’s not bait either

[lone crown]

"We currently have no plans for an Elden Ring sequel or DLC at the time"

[harsh robin]

Why tf would you pirate Silksong? I understand people are trying to boycott Nintendo but TC literally have nothing to do with Nintendo.

What kind of stupid shit did I just read…?

[glossy berry]

that is true yeah
broke character to combat the actually bad misinfo lmao i respect it

[sour heart]

i mean the word piracy kind of comes from stealing, even if it is not the direct definition it is certainly implied

[oblique musk]

But not all backers, just those above a certain tier. I think.

[lament mango]

Piracy agasint indie companies is shit

[glossy berry]

regional costs
15 dollars is a lot of money for a lot of people

[lone crown]

I recommend that everyone pirates Ori though

[stark estuary]

Piracy isn’t an effective method of protest

[lone crown]

The dev is a P.O.S.

[south vigil]

if purchasing isn’t owning, pirating isn’t stealing

[lament mango]

Full stop, id your syealing from indie studios, I perosnally do not like you and think your not a good person

[stark estuary]

By pirating something you’re not boycotting anyone or anything

[oblique musk]

The hell happened there

[polar stag]

what happened with the Ori dev?

[south vigil]

don’t pirate indies only pirate AAA

[fiery burrow]

Etymology is different from meaning. Morality aside its very different from theft in the sense of like, literal pirates lmao

[wet tulip]

piracy has positive effects in the gaming industry even

[stark estuary]

It’s not stealing and whether or not you like me is irrelevant you’re just wrong mate

[lone crown]

Mistreatment/bad working conditions + sits on a high horse

[oblique musk]

How so? Do you mean it encourages more user-friendly dev policies?

[empty musk]

some of these indie devs pushing it with their 40 USD price tags ngl

[lament mango]

Listen, Microsoft can take the hit on call of duty black ops 18 or whatever. The studio behind monster train cannot

[glossy berry]

piracy isnt stealing but cool man

dont pirate from indies if you can but also tying someones status as a good person to whether they spend money (highest rates of piracy are in areas where a game can be up to like half your rent) is fucking weird my guy

[south vigil]

EXACTLY

[stark estuary]

Piracy doesn’t hurt sales because when people pirate they probably weren’t going to buy the game anyway

[sour heart]

obv not literally 😭

[stark estuary]

There is like no evidence to suggest piracy negatively impacts sales

[paper tinsel]

Broke mf who pirates a game getting called a bad human being for trying to have some fun with a game

[lone crown]

Actually the times i've pirated games, i ended up buying later anyway cause I loved them

[lament mango]

It's the same as the shopping cart problem for me. I'd you don't put thr shopping cart back after your done shopping, I just can't belive your a decent guy. Cuz who tf doesn't take 15 seconds out of their 2 hour shopping trips to put the cart back

[oblique musk]

I mean, even if there was, there'd be no way to tell. We will never have a "control case" to compare it to.

[glossy berry]

wheres that study on pirates being more likely to buy more legal copies and licences of media than those who don't

[spare fractal]

A what?

[stark estuary]

And it’s distinct from theft because when you steal like, an apple or something the shop can no longer sell that apple so they’ve lost a sale but when you pirate a digital game the developer does not lose anything

[lone crown]

Piece of shit

[dawn gale]

joins HK server
looks in SS discussion
morals of piracy

[final lichen]

So Will we have Hornet's full kit or will we have to unlock it

[harsh robin]

There may be no evidence but I feel like its common sense to assume that piracy effects sales. No money = no profit.

[fiery burrow]

Fun fact the guy who published the article alleging a toxic environment at moon studios is the same journalist who got stuck on the cuphead tutorial

[lament mango]

Except... you know. The money.... from they sale..

[stark estuary]

There’s no such thing as “common” sense

[oblique musk]

To play devil's advocate for a moment, one could say that they lose out on the money you would have paid for the game.

[sour heart]

anyway silksong looks cool lol

[lone crown]

LMFAO

[glossy berry]

i mean yeah that just makes you a dick

not wanting to spend 3/4 of your monthly paycheck on a video game isnt a shitty move indie or not idk what to say
piracy isnt stealing and i think trying to apply morals to it is useless because its gonna happen anyway, gaming isnt an exclusively western hobby

[empty musk]

just googled it, lol what an idiot dev to make that announcement

[lament mango]

And if they don't make money off of silksong.... well never get zoteboat

[sour heart]

the enemy designs so far have been top notch

[oblique musk]

What did they say

[lone crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1252901437118087240/Seth2.gif

[glossy berry]

SETH

[spare fractal]

get used to it, I used to be in this server before leaving and rejoining and conversations in this channel always went like this

[cloud yew]

seth looks so fun

[harsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/winslow-odd-fellow-walk-in-walk-out-catdog-gif-8298707

[empty musk]

compared "Woke" to the Holocaust and values the support of Mark Kern

[paper tinsel]

People who pirate a game is money that doesn't exist, therefore it's not a sale, what can happen is that potentially that person does buy the game later when they've the opportunity

[oblique musk]

That's like the one enemy design we can't take as a sign of a trend, since TC didn't make it.

[stark estuary]

I mean even in the west people are entitled to spend their money how they want and you could easily argue all art should be free or whatever

[lament mango]

Then wait for a sale?? Or save money?? Also 3 quarters of your p- ITS A INDIE GAME!? I've not seen a single indie game cost more then 50 bucks at most, and i doubt silksong is gonna be running up AAA prices here

[sour heart]

that golden guy in particular great design

[oblique musk]

Hold on let me look something up

[cunning geode]

[lone crown]

This is definitely my favorite so far

[spare fractal]

To be fair though it makes this channel way more fun than it would be if everyone stayed on topic

[harsh robin]

Yes but why do that when you already own it? I get this angle but it also is so backwards it hurts my brain. You could just watch or look at someone else playing it online or something and decide the same thing, why pirate at all?

[sour heart]

YESSSS

[south vigil]

idk why y’all are so hyped for the last judge i don’t think he’s that interesting

[dawn gale]

This boss gives me sm DS or Blasphemous vibes, I love it

[sour heart]

idk wot that guy is called but it looks so sick

[empty musk]

what a noob they will get crushed

[lone crown]

Dude he uses a fucking flaming censer

[fiery burrow]

Watching is different from playing

[oblique musk]

And many countries have paychecks that are less than $50. They obviously have lower cost of living to compensate, but it screws them over on international purchases.

[dawn gale]

wompwomp

[south vigil]

yeah but like
it looks not that cool

[paper tinsel]

Wdym by "already own it"? If they're pirating it it's precisely because they can't afford it, they don't own it

[fiery burrow]

What if its a game that has to be played blind

[lone crown]

His moveset so far looks solid as well

[sour heart]

i just like the vibes

[oblique musk]

Oh it's grummz
Fuck that guy

[lone crown]

You look not that cool

[harsh robin]

Pirating provides the game illegally, meaning they have the game, why buy it if you literally already have it.

[glossy berry]

i think we're gonna have to agree to disagree here lmao
you do understand that even 20 usd is a fuckton of money for a hell of a lot of people - even moreso when everywhere is in debilitating recession

youre allowed to have your own opinions on piracy but dont go calling people ontologically Worse for choosing to spend their money in which ways they want

[dawn gale]

The Hollowcord infighting is real

[lone crown]

"This movie isn't stupid! YOU'RE stupid!"

[median fractal]

do yall think silksong will be pre-orderable? idk what happened with hollow knight

[empty musk]

the ant queen is my favourite so far

[sour heart]

not to mention the animations are great

[gray leaf]

I don't expect this to be the case, but we can only wait

[fiery burrow]

Pirate indie games that aren't worth the money like Nine Sols

[empty musk]

maybe physcial? but idk if team cherry will bother on Steam

[glossy berry]

hollow knight got a release date 2 weeks with no presale before it was publicly available, no

[south vigil]

okay
he just doesn’t look like he lives up to the hype he has for me i just prefer fast bosses

[harsh robin]

The logic doesn’t make sense to me here. If you don’t have the money, fine.

[dawn gale]

We're all getting a free bottle of Hornet Axe spray with pre-order
/j

[paper tinsel]

Because buying games is a lot more convenient, people pay for convenience, pirating is a hassle, and if people has the means to not do it, they won't

[sour heart]

i mean we only have like 5 second clip of the guy

[cloud yew]

no he’s pretty cool

[lone crown]

I mean he is pretty fast i think

[oblique musk]

They day Starpengu stops shitting on Nine Sols is the day she dies.

[south vigil]

ok maybe he’ll be cool in release i’ll just wait

[lament mango]

That's literally commerce. If you can't afford a thing... you don't get the thing. Before the internet if you couldn't afford to watch a movie you didn't just steal the movie, you.... didn't watch it

Source: i took basic bitch economics in high school

[lone crown]

Wrong.

[fiery burrow]

Likewise I never REALLY lived until I realized just how much I loathed this game

[cloud yew]

people snuck into theatres lol

[stark estuary]

I actually did pirate nine sols

[sour heart]

plus idk if thats void leaking out of his eyes, but if it is, i wonder what thats all about

[versed pollen]

Pirate every single piece of software on the internet

[lone crown]

It is not void

[stark estuary]

Nine Sols is just mid

[dawn gale]

Soul of Cinder? Is that you?

[empty musk]

holy... shit...

[stark estuary]

It’s like the definition of mid I think

[south vigil]

pirate wikipedia 🔥

[fiery burrow]

Nine Sols is like average I don't really hate it

[stark estuary]

It’s not a bad game it’s not a good game it’s just… fine

[sour heart]

i was close, either way its great looking imo

[south vigil]

well it’s cause hornet is void and she injected the void into last judge

[dawn gale]

me when I "legally acquire" Adobe products

[uncut citrus]

omw to pirate every opensource software out there 😈

[lament mango]

Know what my fucking advil is running out, as is my patience. I'm gonna to shove 12 foot tall trees into the scary wood chipper, see if i lose any limbs

[south vigil]

gasp

[cloud yew]

i’ve seen people glazing the shit out of nine sols is it actually mid

[lone crown]

Are you a woodworker?

[harsh robin]

Its not only inconvenient, its illegal and can get you legit jail time in some countries, which I know people can easily avoid but, there’s so much risk involved, I’d rather save up between the months of the announcement and actual release than risk getting my IP tracked and getting a big fat fine for not buying the game through legal means.

I’d also rather support the developers because of the blood sweat and tears poured into the art they made. Sorry, I just don’t agree with it in this instance. I get your point but I still don’t like the idea myself.

[glossy berry]

based icl peace and love and owning the media you wanna play without fucking yourself financially on planet earth

[lament mango]

See ya later, I got shit to do

[cloud yew]

i’ve been meaning to play it

[sour heart]

i have a feeling im about to get insulted or something

[oblique musk]

I thought you couldn't pirate open source software.

[south vigil]

it’s diff than hk, i personally enjoy the combat a lot

[stark estuary]

Piracy is also just convenient a lot of the time take emulation for example

[empty musk]

@sour heart no i agree, i think this is an interesting theory here

[fiery burrow]

Sekiro x Hollow Knight and then halve the quality and halve it again

[lone crown]

Just cause its black marks it does NOT MEAN void

[versed pollen]

There are ways to do it......

[lament mango]

No, just gotta clear some fallen trees here and there on the property

[stark estuary]

And technically speaking there’s no distinction between pirating a game you own a physical copy of and pirating a game you don’t own period so that argument doesn’t hold up

[glossy berry]

everybody knows that copyright law is a sane and normal and perfectly righteous thing to be basing your moral schema on

[open narwhal]

sending a message to check the slowmode of the chat

[empty musk]

surely that cant be right its too confusing to the player

[median fractal]

Imo this is the kind of thought you develop as you grow up. But I think most of us on the internet who grow/grew up playing video games definitely pirated some at some point for various reasons

[lone crown]

There's black marks everywhere in Pharloom like deep docks and the new bellhart screenshot

[south vigil]

i’m gonna say it
nine sols is nothing like hk, i don’t even qualify it as a metroidvania. can’t speak about sekiro cause never played

[lone crown]

Black does not equal void bro 😭

[harsh robin]

Not my point at all, but pop off.

[stark estuary]

Unless you’re dumping your own files which nobody does and requires a modded console most of the time which if you’re being a goody two shoes about it isn’t ok either

[sour heart]

yeah but it COULD be, and is that not what theorising is all about?

[oblique musk]

No, I mean like you can't pirate it because you already have access to the source code.

[empty musk]

but if black doesnt equal void its just so confusing for us players

[lone crown]

i object, I say it CANT be

[cloud yew]

i’ve seen people say it’s better than hollow knight but idk i was hesitant to believe that

[versed pollen]

You wouldn't get it, clearly

[stark estuary]

Piracy is also one of the ways in which we can preserve media

[trim estuary]

Sharpe is void btw

[lone crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1232486756742598757/Sharpe_Attack.gif

[glossy berry]

its illegal
you could get a fine or jail time
thats not my point though

im ngl people are just going to keep pirating regardless, its an unenforcable crime

[sour heart]

how so (tbc id like an actual discussion and not arguement)

[south vigil]

all of the shadows are void btw

[uncut citrus]

are anti piracy laws ever actually enforced on individual

[paper tinsel]

I respect you disagree with it, but the risk part of piracy is objectively 0, and yes I also buy games precisely to support devs, but also because it's convenient to have my games in one place, I mean I could pirate them, but I can also afford them, so instead of going through the hassle of pirating it, I buy it and play it

[uncut citrus]

do countries do that?

[versed pollen]

Combine garbage with garbage
Make it even worse
It may not be possible to make a worse game, actually

[glossy berry]

nope!!

[cloud yew]

who gaf if people pirate honestly, people who do have the money often go back and buy the game later anyway if they enjoyed it

[dawn gale]

The outlier in the discussion channel

[oblique musk]

I am going to choose to believe this is bait.

[empty musk]

real imagine taking inspiration from H*llow K*ight

[slender musk]

wait where's this from again?

[glossy berry]

the closest youll get is your isp sending you a notice if youre an idiot and dont know how to torrent, but its literally an unenforced crime globally

[median fractal]

bad game

[paper tinsel]

There's 0 reported cases of people getting arrested for piracy

[fiery burrow]

Sekiro is good

[wet tulip]

true

[stark estuary]

Piracy laws are literally never enforced the worst I’ve heard is people getting letters from their ISPs after repeatedly torrenting shit without a VPN and even then you can just ignore those nothing happens

[fiery burrow]

Nine Sols reaches none of its highs

[glossy berry]

theres cases for people distributing pirated material en masse yeah

you streaming a show or torrenting a game isnt putting you in prison who cares

[lone crown]

I have changed my mind

[versed pollen]

I haven't played Sekiro or finished a single Fromsoft game but Fromsoft has a silly name so all of their games must suck

[harsh robin]

It is understandable, I will pirate triple A games and other things that I know are just done for profit and have no ounce of soul in them but for a game like Silksong, I absolutely would give my money for it. $20 isn’t much to ask for a game these days, which is my opinion crucify me if you want, but I will happily do it if thats what they’re asking.

I have confidence in their games, meaning it is a valuable investment to me, simple as that.

[fiery burrow]

Monster Hunter Diary:

[lone crown]

Nightreign is peak

[versed pollen]

All but one

[sour heart]

fair enough

[stark estuary]

Here it’s only enforceable if you’re like selling pirated content as part of a company or some shit

Hey remember that one guy named Bowser with the hacked switches who’s in lifelong debt to Nintendo

[uncut citrus]

consuming and redistributing is often handled very differently yeah, but i guess you do both when torrenting so you dont need to set up a streaming website to already be redistributing

[glossy berry]

mhm mhm mhm
if youre streaming or public about it or like. showing people on twitch how to torrent youre fucked but like

hang on no theres that guy whos entire bloodline is indentured to nintendo for the crime of modding switches right

[fiery burrow]

Indie gamers when they find out AAA games are made by people and not shareholders

[lone crown]

If you a broke boy just say so 🙄

[sour heart]

i think ive seen more fromsoft and piracy discussion then hollow knight

[median fractal]

oh definitely. Silksong gets all my money if need be. The thing is I know that as like a little kid I wouldve definitely tried pirating something like it because I would not have developed the "respect the devs' work" mindset by then

[stark estuary]

I LITERALLY JUST MENTIONED THAT GUY

HIS NAME WAS BOWSER

[glossy berry]

WHAT
I DID NOT KNOW THAT BIT HUH

[bitter marlin]

deltarune is rlly good i cant wait for june 5th

[glossy berry]

ga(r)y bowser holy shit

[uncut citrus]

so long ga(r)y bower

[median fractal]

june 5th - "silksong release"

[loud laurel]

silksong

[harsh yarrow]

I love the stab they did at mossbag in the Edge Magazine

[empty musk]

🙏

[median fractal]

hey chat june 5th is summer, right? :clueless:

[stark estuary]

GAY BOWSER OWES NINTENDO 15 MILLION DOLLARS

[harsh yarrow]

hilarious to me

[glossy berry]

14.5 million dollars 😟

[dawn gale]

Deltarune and Silksong in 2025, we're so back

[sour heart]

this is madness

[bitter marlin]

yippee!!

[ornate gazelle]

mmmmmm tomadachi life

[dawn gale]

Holy shit, Teto

[formal marsh]

deltarune wont even be finished this year will it

[spare fractal]

reeves what happened to your name
why are you evi leaue now

[formal marsh]

wasnt it gonna have over 4 chapters

[fiery burrow]

4/7 chapters will be there

[paper tinsel]

I hope Silksong doesn't show up here I don't want Geoff to have the benefit

[lone crown]

Seven total

[bitter marlin]

ive been playing thru deltarune tryna do a true pascifist run

[stark estuary]

But fighting against 13 charges would have cost time and money. It was easier, he claims, to plead guilty and only deal with a couple of the charges. As a part of that agreement, Bowser now has to send Nintendo 20-30% of any money left over after he pays for necessities such as rent.

???????

[lament mango]

2 months

[loud laurel]

rogue core ea 2025 though

[bitter marlin]

yep! but chapter 5 is almsot done IRRC

[oblique musk]

Actually, he came out as bisexual. That's why in Mario 3D all-stars, Mario says "bye, Bi" instead.

[glossy berry]

i love the world we live in this is just a day to day thing

they sent a kid to forever hospital prison for leaking gta 6, some guys indentured and in lifelong debt to nintendo (theyre allowed to dock off his paychecks <3) for modding a switch, etc

[lament mango]

Also I've unfortunately not lost any limbs to the scary wood chipper

[glossy berry]

peace and love 🤍

[stark estuary]

HE HAS TO SEND THEM A THIRD OF HIS MONEY EVEEY MONTH

[spare fractal]

chapter 5 was planned to come out with chapters 3 and 4 but the release plan got changed

[glossy berry]

YEAH

[lone crown]

Nintendo fell off after iwata and reggie bruh

[glossy berry]

ITS SO FUCKED

[harsh robin]

All I’m saying is, this is how I view it, you can call me whatever you want but, I’d rather play by the rules than risk getting caught, even if I know beyond a reasonable doubt that I won’t because the risk of getting caught and fined is higher than just doing it properly.

I understand the other angles but this one is mine.

[glossy berry]

nobody has ever been prosecuted for downloading funny video games off the interwebs but i get it
paranoias and all

[opaque sigil]

why are we doing the robin hood larp nobody cares

[bitter marlin]

that means chapter 5 in 2026 hopefully

[lament mango]

Tbh it's more if a respect thing for me then anything else

[sour heart]

deltarune, silksong and bloodborne 2 (ik its not actually bloodborne 2 shhhh) in the same direct is incredible, all we needed was half-life 3 and wed have all the games thought to never come out

[harsh robin]

That too.

[lament mango]

It's the shopping cart thing again, i respect the devs of team cherry for making a game as vast and made with love as HK

[dawn gale]

Woah, slow down there. That's giving Valve a lil too much credit

[harsh robin]

I’ve had friends get fined for it but not legitimately prosecuted lol, thats unheard of, yes.

[stark estuary]

I care

[sour heart]

yeah wouldnt want to be greedy

[bitter marlin]

terrarai 1.4.5 in 2025?? (hopefully)

[stark estuary]

I’m Rob(b)in(g) Hood

[harsh robin]

Just cause its interesting conversation, thats all.

[south vigil]

wait that would make this an even peaker year

[stark estuary]

Haha get it because piracy is theft and I like robbing indie devs haha

[dawn gale]

2025 is so back in terms of gaming, imo

[lament mango]

They got as far as Alyx, which is didn't know was a number but I guess Valve counts differently

[opaque sigil]

so true

[lone crown]

Will Tempered ZS exist

[opaque sigil]

I'm not sure, might not

[dawn gale]

Think they're counting in Latin halfway through

[lone crown]

Cause if they ever add one to MR im so ready for it

[bitter marlin]

yeah, hell even fucking POKEMON the game series were all the new games are either mid or bad may get a comeback

[opaque sigil]

zs already has some unique wound mechanics

[fiery burrow]

has the game been out long enough for a ZS profile picture to be viable

[stark estuary]

Go for it

[harsh robin]

I thought they stopped updating Terraria

[dawn gale]

You know they gotta be cooking if they haven't released a new game in two years

[sour heart]

you mean ZA?

[oblique musk]

As far as I know the only way to get prosecuted is to actually distribute it. The chance of legal action will drastically increase if you distribute pirated games for a profit, which is a form of piracy I am definitively against.

[bitter marlin]

yea

[glossy berry]

we've been on the final update since 1.1

[lone crown]

As a fuck you move, tempered zs just adds new moves and just harder in general without adding the extra blue wound gimmick

[sour heart]

im still not 100% sold on ZA, but crossed fingers its good

[dawn gale]

Final finality

[bitter marlin]

this is the last update trust (its not relogic has an addiction to updating there game)

[lament mango]

Ya know I gotta ask, and this ain't a insult btw just genuine curiosity. Do you... do things in the day to day? Like school, chores, video gaming.... YouTube binging... or is it just this?

[stark estuary]

Anyone who cares about Wilds spoilers has already seen ZS and nobody cares about Wilds spoilers and a pfp won’t really mean much on its own

[sour heart]

if those new mega leaks are true im happy

[bitter marlin]

thats why i said "may get a comeback"

[loud laurel]

hi kasane teto

[dawn gale]

The last Legends game was pretty sweet, imo. I've got some damn fine hopes for this game

[stark estuary]

Just this all day every day babyeeeeeeee

[livid tree]

piracy is theft thats why if you download pokemon a million times nintendo loses 60 million dollars

[bitter marlin]

ZA has the potential to be the best pokemon game IM

[harsh robin]

Yes but, that goes for illegally distributing anything so, yeah. I’m just saying I’ve had friends get fined and I’d rather pay $20 than $500 (idk how much the fine is)

[stark estuary]

SO TRUE

[bitter marlin]

heya

[oblique musk]

• Download a million copies of pokemon
• Nintendo goes bankrupt
• Buy nintendo for cheap
• Delete the pirated copies, restore nintendo's billion-dollar net worth

[lone crown]

Yeah right

[sour heart]

ive had that game for ages and still need to finish it, i keep forgetting about it for some reason

[lament mango]

Many things now make sense now

[lone crown]

Pokemid. Every pokemon game is equally mid

[livid tree]

are you telling me to do that or what

[dawn gale]

I think it's been one of the better Pokemon games in recent years

[fiery burrow]

Rumor has it kirb doesn't even sleep he just baits people all night

[oblique musk]

Misinput

[harsh robin]

Rinse and repeat lmao

[bitter marlin]

ZA is the potential man of pokemon games

[glossy berry]

shigeru miyamoto is literally on the fucking breadline because you emulated nintendogs for the 3ds
what the fuck 😟

[stark estuary]

I was about to say

[sour heart]

i love catching pokemon in real time, one of the best new mechanics for sure

[lone crown]

Nintendogs is peak

[glossy berry]

true.....

nintendogs 2 for the switch it'll happen

please

[lone crown]

Nah its gonna be cheap corporate slop with no soul in it like all their ports and sequels and etc

[bitter marlin]

rtc (real time catching) + real time battling, ZA has so much potential

[dawn gale]

Hoping they get even more creative with Z-A releasing soon, Legends has some good ideas the franchise desperately needed

[harsh robin]

I don’t think I’ll be investing in another Nintendo title for a long time.

[fiery burrow]

They just need to put pokemon down

[sour heart]

the only thing that worries me about ZA is the map, idk how a regular looking city could be that interesting for pokemon enviorments

[lone crown]

Me when they take a 3DS game that used to sell for 20 and lazily shittily port it to the Switch for 60 dollars (10+ year old game btw)

[dawn gale]

takes my Pikachu to the back shed with a rifle in hand

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-walker-nostalgia-critic-clap-gif-22806849

[bitter marlin]

luigis mansion 2?

[lone crown]

Yes, that and also dk country returns

[glossy berry]

theyre adding euthanasia to nintendogs 2 wdym its gonna be sooooo good are you excited

[coral quartz]

i didnt know Daily Silksong News was a velociraptor

[dawn gale]

I heard one lil idea that there could be something like lil bio-dome areas accustomed for specific Pokemon

[lone crown]

Bro just has no name anymore, he's just called DSSN now

[paper tinsel]

The only Nintendo game I might be interested in is a new 3D Mario

[dawn gale]

Two raptors in a trench coat

[coral quartz]

i'd be lying if i said i knew how to say his name

[fiery burrow]

GALAXY 3

[coral quartz]

AuraAura?

[lone crown]

ARARAURAAAAAAAA

[paper tinsel]

But I'm not buying Switch 2 just for that

[coral quartz]

ahhhh ararauraaaaaaaaa thank you

[lone crown]

Ara+Raura

[sour heart]

myb

[glossy berry]

its literally just araraura T_T

[lone crown]

The goat

[harsh robin]

I wish, we can dream.

[fiery burrow]

I thought there was an extra ara inbetween

[bitter marlin]

honestly the only game that looks cool is donkey kong

[dawn gale]

Oraora JJBA reference, no way
/j

[bitter marlin]

Mario kart looks mid as hell

(all kart racing games are mid)

[coral quartz]

now i know, spelling names has always been tricky for me, thanks

[paper tinsel]

I'm not really interested in that one personally

[lone crown]

Name a HK-cord profile picture more iconic than Ara's red skull

[paper tinsel]

But yeah looks nice

[lone crown]

EXACTLY

[bitter marlin]

(max cost of a kart racing game should be like 30 bucks)

[lone crown]

You cant.

[bitter marlin]

(more then 30 bucks for a kart racing game is a scam)

[lone crown]

Other good ones include Window, Simo, and Graig

[coral quartz]

highkey those sections in the grand prix where you're driving from one track to another looks ass

[paper tinsel]

Max cost for a game should be 30, period

[fiery burrow]

Purple grover

[oblique musk]

Yeah but consider the following:

[harsh robin]

Yeah, games costing more than $30 is a scam.

[lone crown]

True, true

[dawn gale]

blueberry racing

[bitter marlin]

50 with dlc MAX imo

[oblique musk]

HIS NAME IS CATAQUACK

[bitter marlin]

unless the dlc is peak cinema then 60 with dlc

[sour heart]

brings me back to not being able to find all the blue coins

[dawn gale]

blubry

[lone crown]

Playable Cataquack before SIlksong is DEVIOUS work

[paper tinsel]

I can get around that

[coral quartz]

not all games. binding of isaac + all dlc is $60 and you get hundreds of hours of content, thats not a scam imo

[oblique musk]

We don't know that to be the case. Silksong could release before.

[glossy berry]

youre telling me you arent hyped to play sidestepper in mario kart world

[dawn gale]

Why they binding Isaac? Free my mans

[bitter marlin]

but base isaac is 20$

[paper tinsel]

The base game isn't 60 though that's the point

[dawn gale]

Tyranid jumpscare

[coral quartz]

ah if we're referring to just base games then fair enough

[sour heart]

whats the max yall would be willing to pay for silksong out of curiosity

[bitter marlin]

the dlc is WORTH it because it adds so much extra content

[coral quartz]

$30

[livid tree]

hundreds of hours of bad content yea

[bitter marlin]

30-40

[glossy berry]

like 30

[oblique musk]

Realistically? $60.
Skong answer? ONE BILLION DOLLARS

[glossy berry]

id push it to 40 but more than that isnt an instant pickup lmao

[livid tree]

7 bobux

[south vigil]

realistically i would be willing to spend like 300 for it but it won’t be that much

[short hawk]

WAIT A SEC

[paper tinsel]

Yeah I'd be fine with Silksong costing 30 but I think TC will stay in 15-20

[dawn gale]

One silksongillion dollars worth of HK

[short hawk]

first off, hello, but

[livid tree]

i would only spend 15-20 dollars on it

[oblique musk]

19 dollar silksong, who wants it?

[livid tree]

even thats a lot tbh

[dawn gale]

Isn't HK fifteen?

[sour heart]

i think 30 is reasonable, but im aware that id pay like 60

[paper tinsel]

I'd be surprised if TC charges more than 20 for Silksong but of course I'd allow them to

[bitter marlin]

started at 20$ then got reduced to 15 irrc

[coral quartz]

i mean if it's supposed to be double the size of hollow knight, doubling the price only makes sense in terms of value

[glossy berry]

literally not how game prices work

[livid tree]

yeah idk about that one

[coral quartz]

hollow knight is $15, so silksong is $30

[short hawk]

you guys know the pinned doc "Everything we know about Silksong" right? It says that it was last updated in 2022

[dawn gale]

I'd say a reasonable max is twenty-five bucks

[oblique musk]

Yeah but double size is very much not equal to double content. That, and game prices don't correlate to size.

[glossy berry]

again why would tc forfeit accessibility now after financial freedom

everyone knows that game size directly correlates to cost 1:1

[harsh robin]

Binding of Isaac is fun but I like Risk of Rain better.

[dawn gale]

That long ago? Sheesh

[fiery burrow]

Literally none of this is true

[dawn gale]

RoR MENTION 🔥

[coral quartz]

im just saying what makes sense to my brain and how i'd justify spending money on it. i know thats not how the actual real economic world works

[sour heart]

i got hk after all the dlc stuff came out, did you have to pay for the dlc?

[short hawk]

and look at how much we have now
...
not a whole lot more but still

[bitter marlin]

GUYS SILKSONG ADDED SLOPES ITLL BE 100 DOLLARS

[paper tinsel]

Yeah this is my main point, they're already swimming in gold idk why they'd sacrifice accessibility for some higher pricing

[bitter marlin]

free dlc

[oblique musk]

Not a penny.

[harsh robin]

Risk of Rain being like $20-25 adding dlc it costs like $40-50 at most (I’m not mentioning seekers of the storm cause that was a disaster) is peak.

[short hawk]

average Nintendo pricing logic

[oblique musk]

Hey man Cataquack alone is easily worth 80 dollars

[harsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-slamming-card-on-table-gif-21126320

[bitter marlin]

"Ummmm its an open world kart racing game, thatll be 80 bucks"

[short hawk]

I'M /j CHILL

[dawn gale]

We're starved lil Victorian children, the slightest crumb of bread satiates us

[cloud yew]

my version of the grimm troupe dlc asked me for £4.99 for every retry of nkg

[coral quartz]

every other open world racing game priced less than that

[cloud yew]

did i get scammed

[glossy berry]

statement of a man whos so clearly going to double the cost of his games

[oblique musk]

So did mine. That is to say, it was free.

[bitter marlin]

guys i have 80 bucks saved up, imma drop it on silksong and deltarune

[sour heart]

i hope there is more grimm troupe stuff in silksong

[short hawk]

P e r h a p s .

[cloud yew]

FUCKKKK

[dawn gale]

You got the experimental model, is all

[fiery burrow]

Seekers of the Storm is equal in quality to Survivors of the Void

imo

[cloud yew]

i lost my life savings to nkg

[harsh robin]

I’ve been playing since RoR2 dropped (haven’t played the og yet though)

[oblique musk]

Assuming $25 skong max, you'll have 30 dollars left over.

[dawn gale]

I very much would doubt it, but it'd be pretty cool if there was a nod to them

[fiery burrow]

Heck I think I enjoy the survivors more than SOTV

[coral quartz]

gonna have to disagree with that one chief

[short hawk]

I think a cameo might be nice but outside of that... eh

[glossy berry]

the release was fucked idk if you saw the code but like

its good now lmao i think i prefer seekers to sotv

[harsh robin]

They literally broke the physics engine and are actively trying to cover up the mistakes they made.

Also, Chef.

[south vigil]

seekers of the storm is good now actually

[glossy berry]

at least the bosses and alt path in seekers is good

[dawn gale]

Tried it blind last month and got jumped by a swarm of bugs. 10/10 game

[bitter marlin]

oooh i can buy that one vr game thats 30 bucks

[fiery burrow]

Not the DLC the entire game was like that whether you had it or not

[glossy berry]

oh i know! i helped decompile it lmao

[fiery burrow]

Not the DLC the entire game was like that whether you had it or not

[paper tinsel]

Damn I didn't know about this, that's cute

[oblique musk]

It doesn't seem like the kingdom is fucked up enough to attract the troupe. Besides, we don't know if Hornet will have dream access in any regard.

[harsh robin]

Oh, fuck, really?

[fiery burrow]

Yes and its fixed

[harsh robin]

Glad I stopped playing it for a while lmao

[bitter marlin]

undertale msuic < deltarune music

[coral quartz]

yes but counterargument i want the funny chainsmoker vampire man in my video game

[fiery burrow]

I do miss loader's grapple being tied to FPS that was hilarious

[harsh robin]

Okay, so my friend is a doomer confirmed, thanks guys lol

[short hawk]

quick question: should I post the link to my Speculation Board in here when it's mostly done (basically just looks over the UI elements we've seen so far and pokes at the details)

[fiery burrow]

and the enemies constantly jumping

[paper tinsel]

I think the RoR2 DLC is already fixed kinda but I still won't buy

[glossy berry]

it was bad

[dawn gale]

I think the whole point of Skong is that it focuses less on the Dreams aspect and more on other worldbuilding sections

[fiery burrow]

and AND the elites constantly spawning honestly I liked that

[harsh robin]

That sounds hilarious. I love attaching to enemies and just spinning around

[oblique musk]

FR. Rude Buster makes Enemy Approaching sound like shit.

[glossy berry]

every part of it was like this

[sour heart]

the only song i can remember clearly from deltarune is bigshot

[livid tree]

wait so in silsong are you like killing real people or

[dawn gale]

Queen's theme<3

[fiery burrow]

Everything in Deltarune has so far cleared Undertale

[oblique musk]

That third image gives me genuine pain.

[harsh robin]

Idk how to read this but it looks terrible😂

[formal marsh]

yeah

[dawn gale]

None of them are husks by the looks of it, no

[clever rapids]

RoR2 mention?

[livid tree]

bro youre just gonna be a mass murderer in silksong wtf

[harsh robin]

So, you guys are telling me I should buy SoTS?

[dawn gale]

It looks like Skong is more industrial and grounded with less of a focus on the magic

[coral quartz]

idk if this is misinformation but didnt toby fox say deltarune was the real game he wanted to build and undertale was just like the test run?

[formal marsh]

have you never played a game where you kill people rather than zombies

[livid tree]

well i guess the mantises were like chill

[bitter marlin]

i just want fun gameplay

[dawn gale]

Hornet parkour

[sour heart]

there are suppost to be more hub towns like dirtmouth in silksong, which im personally really happy about

[harsh robin]

I am actually excited for platforming as Hornet, I feel like it is going to be a lot more fun.

[livid tree]

i actually think other than hotline miami no

[dawn gale]

PEAAAAK, PEAAAAK

[glossy berry]

first one is the calc for false son's laser's tickspeed. it didnt reset between runs or deactivations and would constantly get faster the more you played, even across instances of the game

the second one does literally nothing except run on every single action on every single tick

the third is just bad. if true, set to true

the fourth is noxious thorns. every debuff in it is hardcoded and manually designated in spite of there being a debuff api

[south vigil]

what the actual fuck

[formal marsh]

then why are you acting like killing people is wrong?

[oblique musk]

Yep. He got inspired by, and I am not joking, having the ending revealed to him in a fever dream. This inspired him to create Deltarune, but he wasn't confident in himself, so he made Undertale first as a sort of test run.

[livid tree]

are we still talking about in game or

[formal marsh]

maybe

[livid tree]

ok well

in hotline miami youre the bad guy

[livid tree]

or like a bad guy

[dawn gale]

Some topnotch lore by the universe's writers

[livid tree]

and that was messed up

[formal marsh]

i said it in the funniest possible way so it'd sound funny out of context

[bitter marlin]

i dont know a lick of code and i knwo theres msot deifnetly a easier way to do that

[livid tree]

oooook

[oblique musk]

The humble return number % 2 == 0;:

[coral crow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/986259893726089226/check_the_pins.gif

[livid tree]

i actually think you dont kill "people" in any of my games other than hotline miami

[oblique musk]

@bitter marlin this is that easy way

[glossy berry]

again
every single part of ror2's code looked like this for a good week or two it was horrendous to a degree i cant even explain

they tied the entire physics engine (including timer speed, enemy health, attack rate, damage, spawn credits, chests, and shrine loot) to your framerate

[coral quartz]

yuhhhh ok ok thats what i heard. then yeah it makes sense why deltarune is almost superior in every way, it's literally the game he wanted to originally build

[livid tree]

i mean i guess you kill the mantises in hk who are like
not zombies but sentient beings ostensibly just trying to defend against an invading menace

[dawn gale]

Darkest Dungeons has you fighting humans

[livid tree]

oh my god are we the baddies????

[livid tree]

i have like 1 hour on that

[harsh robin]

I heard false son was broken but I didn’t know how broken.

Let me ask you something as a fan of RoR, do you think Gearbox will do good things with the game? I’m just asking cause I’m curious about peoples opinions now that Hopoo is now a part of Valve.

[bitter marlin]

which is very obvious (undertale is trash compared to deltarune)

[glossy berry]

mhm
undertale is a shitty tech demo made by a guy who wnated to learn how to code

there is a 1530 line case switch statement which contains every single line of dialogue in the game ^w^

[dawn gale]

I just started playing it. Bloody miserable game, am addicted

[stray anvil]

In hk you mean?

[oblique musk]

You're joking. Please for the love of god tell me you are joking.

[livid tree]

i mean those mantis guys werent like zombies they were just like

dudes
well i guess they try to kill you first

[fiery burrow]

forgot how crazy stupid good the false son soundtrack is

[fresh pollen]

Probably shitty as in shitty coding

[glossy berry]

i am dead serious let me find it for you it's hysterical

[dawn gale]

Fire music, crying before peak

[livid tree]

i just mean tonally speaking in hotline miami youre supposed to be playing like a crazy person but how are they gonna justify hornet slaughtering like
sapient beings

[harsh robin]

Classic RoR moment

[fresh pollen]

Oh wait nvm I misunderstood the question

[oblique musk]

Oh I knew that. Deltarune could literally brick your pc.

[versed pollen]

Hornet is an evil merciless killer. Quite simple actually

[glossy berry]

sorry slight lowball folks! :D
its actually 5593 lines <3

[livid tree]

are they just gonna die and we're gonna be like yeah idk

[sour heart]

well if some guy with a sword entered my village during a dream virus, id be on the defensive too

[versed pollen]

This is the best part of Undertale this one is fucking hilarious

[dawn gale]

Hornet feels like the type of person who's just "Oh, shit. I just killed a guy, aight"

[fresh pollen]

Nvm I thought you were flabbergasted because someone called undertale shitty

[stray anvil]

Ok but what makes killing zombies ok

[livid tree]

well ok but see isnt hornet just gonna be like
killing people

[fiery burrow]

"Man how do I incentivize my player to engage in the combat system without changing the established lore of our characters??"

The humble contact damage:

[livid tree]

idk they were dead anyway

[sour heart]

we all need hobbies

[fiery burrow]

tbf you could kill innocent people in HK too

[glossy berry]

my favourite part is that all the battle triggers and items and all other text in the game are held in similar, nested switch statements

and also like half the cutscenes. the rest of them get their own functions/files. there is no pattern for which does and doesnt

[oblique musk]

For those who don't know:

Fun(?) fact: In the earliest versions of Deltarune, the provided “uninstaller” file would helpfully delete not just Deltarune, but the entire directory (folder for non-programmer plebs) that it was contained in. This meant that if you, for some inexplicable reason, decided the best place to put Deltarune was in fucking System32, running the uninstaller would delete the entire folder, bypassing the methods Windows normally puts in place to prevent you from deleting it.

[cunning gust]

is this a serious question

[harsh robin]

I actually might do a RoR run after finishing my homework.

[versed pollen]

More code like this please

[lone crown]

This is bait right

[livid tree]

well i guess if they attack me first then its ok to kill these ostensibly intelligent beings with personalities

[dawn gale]

This is the funniest shit I've read all day

[glossy berry]

i lowballed it the actual number is 5593

[formal marsh]

i mean, yeah

[lone crown]

Ah

[livid tree]

that doesnt seem good

[bitter marlin]

LMAO WHAT

[formal marsh]

they tried to kill you first, what are you gonna do?

[stray anvil]

I mean they aren't actually zombies they're just living as a hive mind

[livid tree]

peacefully protest

ok but thats kind of a tone shift from hk

[formal marsh]

IVE SEEN ANOTHER GAME DO THIS BEFORE LMFAOOOOO

[livid tree]

well i guess that makes sense

[formal marsh]

an uninstaller that doesnt check directory and just wipes whatever directory its in

[livid tree]

that it would have a different tone

[oblique musk]

It isn't. System32 holds pretty much all of the important stuff your computer needs to run.

[bitter marlin]

silksong should also brick your PC if you delete it

[lone crown]

It was Gaster’s doing

[versed pollen]

Honestly how the fuck do you even manage to include an uninstaller that can run with the permissions to delete an entire administrator folder

[livid tree]

i guess i shouldnt uninstall it then

[bitter marlin]

because why would you delete peak

[livid tree]

its not even out yet

[lone crown]

Gaster

[cinder vault]

do we have any info on how many gigabytes silksong is going to take?

[dawn gale]

It's a symbiote that will never let go unless you perform a factory reset

[versed pollen]

400gb

[full rune]

At least 2

[oblique musk]

Normally, Windows puts protections in place to prevent the layman from deleting it.

[livid tree]

western game dev here

[cloud yew]

several

[lone crown]

New physics engine alone takes up 300 gigs

[dawn gale]

I'd say no more than a terabyte of storage

[heady iron]

Mayby Toby Fox should focus on writing better code than making characters gay or something

[dawn gale]

Just a guess tho

[oblique musk]

I imagine it could get those privileges just by being in the folder.

[full rune]

Yandere dev moment

[glossy berry]

i love toby fox he is the number one programmer in the world

[cunning gust]

is there any lore reason why he doesnt just hire coders when he is probably like a millionaire

[versed pollen]

That is boofed

[oblique musk]

Oh I heard about this. As I understand it, it failed because a .exe file can't be uninstalled while it is running.

[lethal dome]

Probably not too many gigs considering the size of Hollow Knight and the fact that the models are hand drawn and not fully rendered, even with the 3d game world. I'm not saying it's gonna be small by any means, but probably not as bad as a lot of AAA games

[eager creek]

Wrong. Worse code and gayer characters

[sour heart]

Pride.

[stray anvil]

I know development precedes 2019 but isn't it crazy that silksong is releasing for PS4 when ps5 has been out for 5 years

[heady iron]

Same reason TC doesn’t hire devs

[cloud yew]

i don’t know anything about these games but maybe it’s fun for him

[fiery burrow]

This means over half the files in System32 are usually viruses, because they are safe from being deleted. Thus, its usually a good idea to "refresh" your System32 by deleting it and reinstalling the important contents.

-# /j

[heady iron]

GREED

[stray anvil]

Imagine a 2019 PS3 game

[cunning gust]

the fear and hunger dev has the same exact problem but at least making games in rpg maker is easy

[versed pollen]

Greendy indie developers who are unwilling to share the wealth as opposed to generous triple A CEOs....

[lethal dome]

Hollow Knight is 8 gigs, so even if SS is like twice as large that would be 16 gigs, so I'd say around 20 gigs or so would be a safe bet

[bitter marlin]

atleast toby releases his games

[livid tree]

toby fox is like linus torvalds if he was still alive

[fiery burrow]

yeah maybe he shouldn't have released ut tho

[dawn gale]

I've been here for under an hour and this channel has went from Fromsoft speak, to piracy, to Deltarune

What a trip

[heady iron]

I watch his tech tips all the time

[livid tree]

newgen detected

[oblique musk]

Git is so cool I love him

[bitter marlin]

he released it, it blew up somehow and now he has the funding to make peak

[fiery burrow]

#sk-discussion gameplay is just speedrunning internet discourse

[dawn gale]

I don't speak your old-time lingo
/j

[glossy berry]

im trying to find images but theres a litany of rooms in the game that do nothing but run an if statement for every single tile and entity in that room, before setting all the variables it checks to zero
and then checking again

[sour heart]

direcly before they were talking about silksong axe bodyspray

[glossy berry]

before you do Anything

[oblique musk]

Can we talk about the political and economic state of the world?

[dawn gale]

Skongrot hit this server so hard.

[short hawk]

guys can we go back to Silksong please 😭

[eager creek]

I hate the economy

[sour heart]

silksong has starved us into insanity

[livid tree]

we need to declare war on antarctica

[short hawk]

PLEASE

[livid tree]

i hate penguins

[oblique musk]

Those penguins have had it too good for too long.

[glossy berry]

104% china tariffs 🤤

[dawn gale]

Skong-discussions discussing everything but Skong:

[versed pollen]

More than just penguins live in Antarctica dude

[fiery burrow]

The polar bears and penguins in Antarctica have teamed up to start a tradewar with the US following tariffs

[eager creek]

There are no polar bears in Antarctica

[heady iron]

Waiter waiter higher tariffs please

[livid tree]

there arent polar bears in antarcica lol

[oblique musk]

Star... Antarctica has no polar bears.

[fiery burrow]

liar

[short hawk]

Polar Bears don't live in Antarctica?? They're in the Arctic??

[sour heart]

weve gone from deltarune to antarctica

[livid tree]

there are only penguins

why do you think they call antarctica penguintopia

[fiery burrow]

No

[dawn gale]

What is this polar bear propaganda in my Hollowcord?

[oblique musk]

It's so crazy that the president managed to put trade sanctions on his own country

[glossy berry]

usamerican president tierlist next

[fiery burrow]

The arctic and Antarctic are literally the same place

[oblique musk]

FDR S tier

[glossy berry]

literally sanctioned himself yeah im crying T_T

4 trillion more dollars soon 🥺

[dawn gale]

Number one: Arnold Schwarzenegger

[versed pollen]

What about the fish

[livid tree]

S tier funny valentine Z poo poo tier all the other ones

[short hawk]

I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT SILKSONG NOW

...
-# can we please just be a normal discussion chat for FIVE MINUTES

[livid tree]

they ate all of them

[eager creek]

Garfield S tier I have no idea who the man is or what he's done but he has a funny name

[fiery burrow]

what about it

[short hawk]

UI

[bitter marlin]

no :3

[short hawk]

I've been poking around and grabbing a bunch of screenshots

[sour heart]

the baron has spoken

[glossy berry]

he got shot to death two months into his term lmfao

[livid tree]

nobodys stopping you champ

[dawn gale]

It's like a curse where if you mention Skong, the channel only deviates further

[oblique musk]

"My heart and actions are utterly unclouded. They are all those of 'Justice'."

[eager creek]

S tier

[glossy berry]

better than most presidents some could learn a lesson from him

[oblique musk]

Manifesting

[livid tree]

bruh napkin 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂 😂 😂 😂

[eager creek]

All presidents should be shot 2 months into their term

[eager creek]

For legal reasons that's a joke

[livid tree]

i thought he got shot immediately and spent 2 months dying

[glossy berry]

for comedy reasons it isnt in the slightest

[sour heart]

well this coversation went from 0 to a hundred real quick

[fiery burrow]

erm awkward

[dawn gale]

Technically speaking, we're all spending our time dying by just aging

[oblique musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEQOvyGbBtY

[burnt cypress]

good lord what is this conversation-

[dawn gale]

Insanity.

[livid tree]

R.I.P. TREVOR

[oblique musk]

Average tuesday in #sk-discussion

[sour heart]

me when i start singing the song of silk

[oblique musk]

I miss him every day

[eager creek]

Omg I love that man

[livid tree]

he was so based

[oblique musk]

Taken from us too soon

[glossy berry]

god its such a good video
didnt this guy make the crystal meth song too

[oblique musk]

Yes.

[short hawk]

in the process of reining in The Horde, give me a second

[livid tree]

he made so many things

WKUK

[glossy berry]

wkuk could save me

[livid tree]

check it out
they were so far ahead of their time

[short hawk]

Silk Abilities will, most likely, be exclusively combat-related
Just as an example, the screenshot in Coral Forest where we see Hornet (assumably) using a line of silk to go up won't tie the ability to use said line of silk to the white icon shown in the tools section of the UI

[glossy berry]

thank you for your service in your honour we will shoot another president o7

[dawn gale]

Oh, I had a similar theory before, yeah. Hornet's going to be a lot faster and aggressive compared to Knight's relatively defensive playstyle

[subtle flint]

@uncut citrus have you played arena

[glossy berry]

true true
is it heresy to say i havent given tools and kit a huge amount of thought T_T

in spite of waiting for years now lmao hrm
very much more aggressive either way

[livid tree]

bruh why the health look like that

[glossy berry]

northernlion

[oblique musk]

Eggsong

[short hawk]

yes

[eager creek]

Man I have more free time than I expected to today, I should have brought my controller to campus

[dawn gale]

SilkEgg

[uncut citrus]

Recently? Like 100 times

[subtle flint]

i just had an insane anvil game

guess how many anvils i got...

[dawn gale]

Throw rocks at windo- I mean...

[uncut citrus]

Crazy

[eager creek]

I should

[uncut citrus]

Uhh 30

[short hawk]

from the simple perspective of "speculation magic" you would need to tie a Silk Ability to a slot within your Crest, by the looks of the Crest menus we've seen in the past

[eager creek]

I just got out of my geology lab, I can go back and grab some prime rocks

[subtle flint]

most insane shit

[uncut citrus]

Yeah wait 30 is only like less than 20k g

[subtle flint]

think i had like 3 or 4 fortune shards aswell

[sour heart]

would hornet be stopped by raid bug spray

[uncut citrus]

Freaky

[oblique musk]

I wonder if you would be able to tie multiple silk abilities to a crest at the cost of a red tool slot

[subtle flint]

extremely so

[dawn gale]

Trinity being the only one here to wanna talk about HK in the HKcord

[subtle flint]

my shardbearer was 70%

[glossy berry]

booooring can we bring the useless politics discussion back 🙏

[oblique musk]

Boutta hit this man with the ?tag info offtopic

[eager creek]

Yea, because why would anyone ever do that?

[short hawk]

in metroidvanias, why would you tie your "key" to a slot? why not give the player access at any time, instead of forcing the player to pick which doors they are allowed to open between benches?

[fiery burrow]

quit trying to derail the conversation

[dawn gale]

The whahuh?

[fiery burrow]

Lest I ping mods

[oblique musk]

?tag info offtopic

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[short hawk]

LOL

[fiery burrow]

Lone Fungus does this and its awful

[short hawk]

exactly

[dawn gale]

So Skong discussion is just the most chaotic channel?

[short hawk]

yesn't

[oblique musk]

The humble spore shroom requirement for Mr. Mushroom:

[versed pollen]

hk-disc and hk-offtopic also also similarly allowed to go off-topic

[formal marsh]

ss discussion is like an offtopic channel if every so often it exploded

[dawn gale]

Deletion of shame

[oblique musk]

That and kingsoul ig

[short hawk]

literally the weirdest ending that barely anyone will get

[livid tree]

i mean but mr mushroom isnt like
important

[glossy berry]

why is your snail greyscale what did they do to him

[chrome basalt]

Deleting messages is crazy, you gotta stand on that one unc

[short hawk]

I thought it'd delete the second Dyno message

[knotty sedge]

changed my guess after hearing september will have a playable version ready

[livid tree]

bruh died 🥀

[rustic ore]

Greysnale

[dawn gale]

He was told Skong would come out tomorrow one too many times

[formal marsh]

life or death for nailsmith?

[short hawk]

get out 🗣️🔥

[eager creek]

Silksong tomorrow

[short hawk]

life, better achievement

[dawn gale]

Bro standing like Kratos over the cliff

[formal marsh]

why is EVERYONE choosing life

[rustic ore]

STAY OR LIFE?

[eager creek]

Life, I love gay people

[versed pollen]

Death because I hate gay people

[formal marsh]

fucked up

[dawn gale]

There are two kinds of HKcorders

[short hawk]

average death enjoyer

[uncut citrus]

Death because I hate gay people that aren't dating me

[oblique musk]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[dawn gale]

New sticker dropped

[short hawk]

INSANE SCREENSHOT

[sour heart]

stand beside him for a solid 30 mins

[knotty sedge]

killing nailsmith is homophobic?

[versed pollen]

I hope so

[coral quartz]

indeed

[oblique musk]

He goes gay for Sheo if you don't.

[dawn gale]

The real one achievement

[wet tulip]

i did this

[rustic quail]

mods, do the thing

[short hawk]

holy hell you are cruel

[versed pollen]

The best mod is the one that makes the nailsmith drop 40 000 geo

[rustic ore]

WITH AN OFFSCREEN SHADE SOUL IS INSANE

[glossy berry]

thats foul oml

[coral quartz]

you didnt even kill him on screen

[eager creek]

NOOOOO

[dawn gale]

Cry

[oblique musk]

Add fragile greed to that fr

[chrome basalt]

Killing him with spells is some insane levels of disrespect

[fiery burrow]

Not flukecrest do it again

[sour heart]

why did bro do him like that

[formal marsh]

the clip cut off his scream which was the best part

hold on

[supple dagger]

Is Silksong a Weaversong reference?????

[short hawk]

bro didn't even give him the honour of dying on screen

[static rose]

Other way around

[sour heart]

didnt even kill him with the nail like he wanted 😭

[short hawk]

technically, wouldn't Weaversong be a Silksong reference?

[formal marsh]

version with the grunt

[versed pollen]

Sometimes I wonder if cDash can kill him

[dawn gale]

Not the doublepost

[glossy berry]

i really like the flash of the save symbol in the corner

[static rose]

Pretty sure it cant(?)

[formal marsh]

i want you all to know that i only did this because @versed pollen told me to

[chrome basalt]

Chat rate my vinyl collection

[rustic ore]

To be fair it’s Muffin asking so he does deserve $25.31 USD for being kind and handsome

[versed pollen]

My significant is very great

[rustic ore]

Put on shelf and not on floor

[dawn gale]

I wanna run my nail across the top and hear the clicking

[carmine island]

see ennea gets it

[chrome basalt]

No shelf room

[short hawk]

are you guys up for a speed-round of "best concepts for Crest passives"

[rustic ore]

Otherwise based. My dad has a HUGE vinyl collection

[glossy berry]

on it o7

[carmine island]

guy guys wanna see my vinyl collection?

[uncut citrus]

Ignoring the fact I was the only one who actually voted for death even still when you removed your reaction 😔

[dawn gale]

Dunno what this fully entails, but W

[glossy berry]

oh absolutely please send

[chrome basalt]

I have 57, unintended Zote reference on my part

[formal marsh]

I DIDNT SEE IT WAS YOU IM SORRY
thanks you too reeves its also your fault

[short hawk]

everyone goes around saying what they'd give [X] crest as a passive bonus, then we vote

rinse and repeat

[rustic ore]

Oh that’s reeves

[dawn gale]

Beat the game passive

[rustic ore]

lmao

[versed pollen]

The best passive ability is that one that makes me win the game

[rustic ore]

hi reeverseever

[short hawk]

I'd say that this would be VERY active smh

-2

[dawn gale]

Damn, lost two points </3

[short hawk]

best idea ever

[pastel silo]

fucking discord opened at messages from an hour ago just to make me angry about your comment

[glossy berry]

hit webserial worm parahumans

[dawn gale]

God, imagine how satisfying that clinking sound is if you just run all four nails across the corner

[carmine island]

theres also some cds of cafe jazz from back when my car radio was broken and i hated myself

[chrome basalt]

Beatles spotted, unc 🫵

[short hawk]

FIRST ROUND - "Claw" Crest

[lucid holly]

holy

[gusty mason]

https://youtu.be/Sf1SgcVm6mk?si=6BDgo3bORfdjZFmf nice
Its not switch 2 exclusive it will be playable on switch 1

[glossy berry]

oh this fucks severely okay youre so cool

neat!

[lucid holly]

2 greens and a kinda holy

[dawn gale]

Mantis Claw reference?

[glossy berry]

#hk-announcements message

[dawn gale]

Hong Kong announcements

[gusty mason]

I was watching a 3 hour mario kart video gimme a break.

[livid tree]

is that please please me

[glossy berry]

there is. no news to report for hong kong today

[versed pollen]

The only important part of this video is the last 10 seconds

[chrome basalt]

Wassup Beijing

[short hawk]

for a passive bonus from this crest I'd give this a
"When killing an enemy with a basic attack, gain 1 additional silk notch."

[formal marsh]

why the fuck did ara awkwardly growl at the end of the video

mildly uncomfortable i dont understand the purpose of it

[short hawk]

he wants more greens

[glossy berry]

dont be mean
hes literally a dinosaur the man said himself

[dawn gale]

The sensations almost resurfaced

[versed pollen]

Ara makes silly noises at the end of his recordings for fun (and also I presume because it can make cutting your video easier). He forgot to cut it out this time

[gusty mason]

Silksong this year im hyped

[dawn gale]

Sounds like something I'd genuinely use in-game, damn

[versed pollen]

It's so awesome because you can literally hear the silence after he's done talking that's supposed to end the script

[dawn gale]

Reading this while listening to it is fucking killing me, Jesus

[gusty mason]

Wtf why is he screaming

[versed pollen]

#sk-discussion message

[dawn gale]

Dino urges

[glossy berry]

its so good i love him so much

ara my beloved.......

[dawn gale]

Quiet channel, a new discovery...

[sour heart]

when silksong finally became the main topic everyone dipped

[gusty mason]

How does one guy make update videos for years

I cant even edit mine.

[glossy berry]

tbf like 95% of his videos are the same 2 line script with an identical image

its not difficult

[gusty mason]

Still.

Nedds to be effort and not forget.

[glossy berry]

he does also have them pre-recorded in advance for no news

[dawn gale]

How audacious to even assume that
/j

[glossy berry]

this is because silksong is not good

as we all know abundantly well

[dawn gale]

Hollow Knight fans when you ask them what they think about Silk Song

[sour heart]

thinking its bad makes us feel better about waiting

[gusty mason]

[dawn gale]

HK fans treating SS like it's a toxic relationship

[opal canopy]

do you guys think ss will come before september?

[eager creek]

I've heard other people bet on June, I'm neutral about it

[gusty mason]

Silksong will come my birthday. In september.

[dawn gale]

We're getting tag-teamed on June 5th with Deltarune and Silk Song

[gusty mason]

Ss isnt gonna come june

[static rose]

It's gonna release the exact second I get bored of the games that are currently out

[glossy berry]

my bets on summer for the obvious AAA reasons

[dawn gale]

Wait, I've been mistyping it this whole time, fake fan

[heavy mason]

Yes

Ara is happy again

[glossy berry]

leth doesnt like dropping indies in q3/q4 because of the aaa rush, and i think gta 6 conflicts counts as that

[opal canopy]

gta 6 hype, 2k26, new cod

[dawn gale]

We'll actually be getting GTA 6 and SS bundle, where you unlock exclusive rewards in each game for your purchase.

[lament mango]

Back

[desert citrus]

You can actually play as Hornet in gta6 after you beat the main story

[lament mango]

Didn't get my limbs wood chipped, and didn't get killed by the power lines, let's fucking GO

[worn lantern]

any new news in the past 2 days?

[lament mango]

New screen shots i think from the Japanese website

That's about it as far as I can recall

[dawn gale]

One of the unlockable upgrades in SS is just a straight gun.