sk-discussion

[violet path]

oh the hey guys person?

[atomic sparrow]

yeah

[subtle lynx]

Hey guys

[rocky flicker]

fratute

[violet path]

how do you define something being based "purely off belief" then

i BELIEVE that the roman empire was a real thing

but i mean theres no way for me to know for sure i dont have a time machine

[tired oyster]

if there is no tangible, physical, scientifically studied proof that this belief is founded in

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/sHCHEykUxP4?t=385 timecode for you fellas

[tired oyster]

comparing an empire that we've extensively studied and have tons of evidence of to a higher power that we have zero physical evidence of (and don't try to say the creation myth is evidence) is a really bizarre argument

[violet path]

then say a random person from ancient history

how would you go about confirming their existance

that is not how you spell that word is it

existence?

[violet path]

oh ive seen this one

[atomic sparrow]

hello michael from vsauce

[chrome basalt]

There’s plenty of preserved human remains from pre agricultural times

[tired oyster]

that's a more fair argument, there's some figures in ancient history we can't say for 100% certainty actually existed. but there's some we can be more sure of because of things like them having a concrete location of where their tomb is and, if they were a ruler of some sort, tangible societal effects on the culture they ruled over. and other various historical recountings of things that were written or depicted during the time period like caesar being stabbed to death by a bunch of roman senators who HATED his ass

[violet path]

mhm mhm

i read a book on mythology a while back it was really quite interesting

[chrome basalt]

What’s the point of this argument?

[violet path]

its just a discussion

[chrome basalt]

Huh okay

[cunning geode]

what does it mean to "believe in something" yeah, not really an argument either which is chill

its a good question

[violet path]

but say like Socrates idk for sure but do we have any evidence at all that he was a real person?

[cunning geode]

definitely

[chrome basalt]

Yes

[violet path]

what physical, tangible, scientific, proof

[livid tree]

i believe in love ❤️

[violet path]

genuinely curious btw this isnt supposed to be a gotcha or anything

[cerulean sable]

my honest opinion is the reason i dont find any it believable because if it is then why have i lost 5 games straight in a row whenever i play as any other division but the 2nd panzer grenadier div

[cunning geode]

we have his writings, we know who he taught directly, we know artworks people made of him

[kindred pewter]

finally someone gets me 💔

[cunning geode]

just as a baseline

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[kindred pewter]

OMG ANDY!!

[chrome basalt]

He wrote a bunch of shit a couple thousand years ago, that’s recent enough for us to get an accurate date on how old those things were and corroborate, also he was just a smart Greek dude, so lots of people knew about him and talked about him

[cunning geode]

excuse me we do not have his writings we have plato's writings

[tired oyster]

his writings, artworks made of him, other writings discussing him and made by people who were directly TAUGHT by him

[cunning geode]

yeh i got that too

[violet path]

oh i got snailed in terms of correcting you cus you corrected yourself

[cunning geode]

fair game

[violet path]

L me

[chrome basalt]

A more accurate way of phrasing it would be people wrote down what he said

[silver oak]

Scorsese

[marsh ibex]

Hate that bitch

sorry

[tired oyster]

none of them 100% guarantee he existed but they make it very likely that he did

[violet path]

but he didnt actually write anything down himself, just accounts of him from other people, and like im just wondering how thats any different from the gospels

[chrome basalt]

He had countless dialectic conversations with other philosophers that are very baseline for most of western philosophy

[opaque sigil]

we can all see the false equivalence coming miles away

[silver oak]

Joker jumpscare

[marsh ibex]

🤨

[austere vessel]

release year is cool and all that

[chrome basalt]

What did he do, he’s just a silly little old man who makes movies 😔

[austere vessel]

but its time to release the silkdate

[opaque sigil]

contemporaneity, independence, the fact that they don't attest to his being magic

[marsh ibex]

Pretentious smarmy douche

[chrome basalt]

💀

[violet path]

this conversation started from belief in something based on "tangible evidence" of somethings existence in relation to religion

[cunning geode]

science and history is about being as close as possible to accurate, ideally. we cannot be 100% guaranteed 100% of the time because that isnt necessarily the aim of science. we do not "believe" certain people existed, we have evidence they existed and that evidence is highly scrutinized. there is not a faith in something that happened, what is known to science changes rapidly

[chrome basalt]

Is this about him shitting on Marvel movies? Because since the time I was a child I’ve come to completely agree with everything he’s said about them.

[weary tapir]

😭

[marsh ibex]

I don’t care about what he said about marvel movies he’s still pretentious

[weary tapir]

this is crazy

[violet path]

YES THIS HAPPENED

[tired oyster]

because there is no prior, tangible proof or baseline substantiating that jesus existed. we do not know where his tomb is. we do not know if he was EVER a real person that existed. we never even had any artistic depictions of him until after his mythical martyrdom and subsequent deification.

[violet path]

I SAW IT YESTERDAY THE THEATOR WAS AWESOME

[cunning geode]

Socrates did WHAT???

[chrome basalt]

Fair enough

[violet path]

there was one group on the other side of the theator that i SWEAR knew the whole script

[weary tapir]

I am seeing it today

[violet path]

make sure you get a packed theater

[weary tapir]

at like 9:30 PM so that's bound to go well

[violet path]

makes it 1000x more fun

[fiery shore]

Wait is Platon Plato in english

Like like Plate

[violet path]

👍 fair assessment

[cunning geode]

byeah

[violet path]

but we dont know where socrates is buried either right so like im just wondering what is the definition of the tangible evidence of a historical event

is it just the artistic depictions?

idk christian history THAT well but like from ap world last year i gathered the spread of the gospel to be like pretty quick and widespread while facing early persecution in Roman Europe

[chrome basalt]

Well again a lot of people who existed at the same time period and lived in the same ancient city as him all seem to think he existed, they all talked a lot and people wrote down what they wrote, and unlike something like the story of Jesus which is questionable for reasons like the laws of physics, all the stories about Socrates are just “he said this thing we just quoted, isn’t that interesting?”

[violet path]

so its the subject matter of the accounts that begs the question of the existence then?

[chrome basalt]

I mean a philosopher existing in Ancient Greece is a lot more believable at face value than the creator of the universe having a child with a human that’s also just him in human form, something something walk on water, water to wine, reincarnation

[cunning geode]

yeas and in Islam Jesus is real but is just a prophet, incapable(?) of those other supernatural feats

[chrome basalt]

But no even plausible things are called into question, but we don’t have much reason to believe Socrates wasn’t real, again a lot of people who lived at the same time and in the same place all seemed to think he was real

[violet path]

interesting

[opaque sigil]

if you lower your standard to "people wrote about them" you have to include literally every mythological figure

[violet path]

i should study islamic perspectives more seems interesting

[tired oyster]

our understanding is that socrates was not liked by virtually anybody in the athenian high society he existed in at the time when he was alive. people found him to be a condescending shithead and the athenian government quite literally had him executed, not for his teachings before you make a false equivalence to jesus here again, he wasn't any sort of hero to martyr dying for a cause, Athenian high society straight up just didn't like him enough that they wanted him dead. regardless of all this, he still had detailed, realistic sculptures of him made AT the time when he was alive, simply because he was anybody notable and could assumedly pay for it. he was not particularly special during his era, we only hold him in any regard in hindsight because the archival of his words from the students he had was a key part of the development of philosophy

[cunning geode]

im not muslim so thats just what bit i know of Islam about Jesus

[opaque sigil]

extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

[violet path]

im not trying to make a false equivalence i understand theyre not the same thing im just wondering what defines tangible evidence vs just belief

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-sherlocked-sherlock-holmes-gif-7521721

[livid tree]

i thought socrates was that guy from epic rap battles of history

[zinc needle]

any new info?

[violet path]

sure if you ignore all context

[violet path]

#hk-announcements is up to date i believe

[violet path]

is he not

[brittle arch]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-joker-gif-4939694494140375951

[zinc needle]

ty

[livid tree]

yes

[opaque sigil]

if you don't engage in special pleading

[cunning geode]

im gonna sound like a shithead but real things and people do not require us to believe in them for them to exist/have existed

[violet path]

idk Islam very much at all but how exactly does that work for them to believe in Jesus as a prophet but not as God when he claimed to be the son of God very profusely. Do they just think those accounts are incorrect but still believe he existed or what

[cunning geode]

science is about reaching the plateau of knowledge of that ever widening scope of understanding the universe around us which is technically infinite

so its always ongoing

[weary tapir]

I come into SS discussion and we're talking about this how did we get here

[cunning geode]

im being a little too philosophic and/or flowery about it

shaw

[weary tapir]

something like that

[violet path]

of course im just using socrates as an example cus idrk how else to relate what im trying to understand

[cunning geode]

not sure but probably something like that

[violet path]

mm cool

[cunning geode]

hey the socratic problem is a good example

[violet path]

ok well thanks for the chat i gotta get back to studying for drive test so i can unleash my greatness on the florida roads

later

[cunning geode]

omg good luck

dont explode

[chrome basalt]

Cya

[tired oyster]

i think the key difference just to use what i just talked about as an example is that the existence of someone like socrates was not contingent on our believing in him. whether historians mostly unanimously agreed he was real or not, the busts of him and the recountings of his students that were made during the time where he was alive would still exist. jesus, quite literally, as far as anybody knows, did not exist to the world before his martyrdom was written about, despite how prolific and benevolent he was stated to have already been in those writings.

[stoic sigil]

I have new misinfo

[cunning geode]

and i have new...... MUSIC

for chat that is

https://open.spotify.com/track/37TcMaBvTLILrStHAYRT0z?si=ef93082c72f240c7

[opaque sigil]

and it was written about about a century later and on a different continent, not exactly primary sources

[tired oyster]

^^

[sour widget]

So look at the background it's this really tight up looking place, and then you got a podium, my first thought for some reason was a library, but no, this looks to me to be some kind of auditorium? My thoughts are that place is some kind of place where they held concerts, or where they preach, possibly even held speeches, though the clothing of the enemies and people in the background suggest to me this is more... Speeches and preaching than concerts

[tired oyster]

there are no firsthand accounts of jesus's crucifixion. and for socrates there are a number of firsthand accounts of even the mundanities of his life. like how much everyone fucking hated him for being a snide douchebag

some things haven't changed. a lot of philosophers are still like that

[subtle lynx]

Yeah it seems like an important place to just be some random room

[opaque sigil]

the socratic method

and it's not even like a bad tool

[subtle lynx]

So I think there's sth else going on there

[cunning geode]

i really like these two messages one after another

[stoic sigil]

Silksong Discussion??? EW!

[sour widget]

Fr caught me off gaurd to talk about Silksong and then Jesus

[cunning geode]

well technically it was jesus THEN silksong. who do you think made silk from song? 👹

[opaque sigil]

I mean it's not just a random room, at the very least there's an enemy encounter there

[cerulean sable]

Persona 5 Royal MAJOR MAJOR spoiler:
Thats literally ||how Maruki operated||

[cunning geode]

its also how Thanos operated

[opaque sigil]

the demo enemy encounter room definitely placed it in a more scenic area

[tired oyster]

just wait for my video essay on how hornet is a jesus allegory

[subtle lynx]

Yes, I mean something more important than that

[opaque sigil]

could be a tl deal where a boss jumps in, the explody false knight is in that room too

looks a bit lackluster of a fight but that's just one attack

[cerulean sable]

yeah i really like the shorter musket variants called "musketoons" i think they look neat

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-install-dragon-install-morbid-world-dragon-install-seikai-order-sol-guilty-gear-gif-26507125

[livid tree]

maia hee
maia hoo
maia haa
maia ha ha

[opaque sigil]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/2921817833550719/40E5E81E94FE4B9E74817770FBBF59A9B1525DE5/ ttacco will this weapon make you play monster hunter

[cerulean sable]

i already played through the entirety of mon hun

no wait actually since Gen 2 / Freedom 2 & Unite

the only reason i skipped on Rise is the performance

[cunning geode]

you know what'll make me play wilds?
-50% sale

[cerulean sable]

and the inevitable major expac

TRUE

[opaque sigil]

ok but sunbreak is actually amazing

[cerulean sable]

but really i was already planning on buying it on day 1 until i saw the perf

[opaque sigil]

tu1 did improve it considerably is what I'm hearing

[cerulean sable]

i couldnt go back to Rise but i did enjoy it, i kinda modelled my palamute to my late dog, which as weird as it i kinda made me stop finishing it

[tired oyster]

the G rank content in MH games almost always tends to be the absolute best content of its respective game

[opaque sigil]

can't wait for the wilds one

[cunning geode]

Rise aint complete without sunbreak which sucks

but when theyre on sale together they can be really cheap

and sunbreak is amazing

[cerulean sable]

yeah i was nearing end of base game

[opaque sigil]

tbf they are now bundled together for $60 which is a pretty fair price but yeah

[cunning geode]

well what im sayin is sunbreak is a separate thing you have to buy

and Rise always felt incomplete without it

[cerulean sable]

i only bought base game 🥴

[cunning geode]

like yeah bundle is great and all

[weary tapir]

‎

[opaque sigil]

they're now being sold together for the price of a full aaa game (at the time), so I think that criticism falls a bit flat but it's true that people who don't know how important sunbreak is might mess up and have to spend an extra 20

[cunning geode]

i dont think its flat 60 bucks is a lot

just wait for a sale as always

[opaque sigil]

I mean sure but that's just standard aaa pricing I'm not saying standard aaa pricing is good but it's hard to use that as criticism for a specific game

[cunning geode]

i can use it as criticism for any game especially one that launched with a third of its potential you had to later buy the rest of separately

[opaque merlin]

Hey chat any news on silk song?

[cunning geode]

its just a bummer and ive heard Rise development suffered from early covid era stuff which makes sense too

but i do love the full game, a lot a lot

[cunning geode]

after the little teaser on April 2nd, nope

[opaque sigil]

rise definitely had a rough launch but that's not so much because of sunbreak's absence imo so much as it is because hr was also unfinished

[silver oak]

?sspsa

[white sail]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[opaque merlin]

I kinda stoped looking around the hk community like a year or two ago

[cunning geode]

go check out #hk-announcements

[opaque sigil]

and obviously I'd prefer if shit like iceborne and sunbreak was just launch content but I'm not like that offended by it

[cunning geode]

well IM TRIGGERED

👹

[opaque merlin]

oh shit there are slopes now

thats so cool

[subtle lynx]

Check pins here

[torn echo]

so do people think it's gonna come out (silksong) around june/july? theres no actual evidence right? if there is please tell

[opaque sigil]

there's no real evidence no

[torn echo]

my hate for ants will continue to increase then.

[cerulean sable]

also i mentioend this before but i am speculating that Greymoor will have this style of ambience https://open.spotify.com/track/7f0OqnamTJPtE1qRjYQqHx?si=f2775d9bc1484634

[cerulean sable]

no evidence and mostly speculation via inference
but still we march on, and we keep on hoping regardless

[empty jewel]

It should come out right before gta 6, see who wins... right?

[violet path]

possibly

gta 6 is likely for the summer

[cerulean sable]

its on fall

[torn echo]

i hope

[violet path]

who knows when silksong will release

[cerulean sable]

iirc they said its on fall

[violet path]

gta or ss?

[empty jewel]

Me

[cerulean sable]

GTA

[violet path]

oh really

[cerulean sable]

iirc it was confirmed for Fall 2025

[empty jewel]

Yeah, but im not allowed to say it

[frozen pike]

greymoor reminds me of bloodborne style

[empty jewel]

srry bro/dudette

[lone crown]

Time for more MH Wilds

[last cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-vs-sukuna-gojo-sukuna-manga-jjk-gif-14329532896673790072

[violet path]

ok from what im seeing likely august-november

[torn echo]

you said ur rough guess for silksong was june/july, may i ask why?

[cerulean sable]

its actually 2nd half of the year

because if it was going to be this June then they wouldlve outright provided a month or wtv

but eitherway its cuz of a leaker (i just need to excuse to shit on them) saying its going to be June deadline but even theyre not sure

and Leth saying in his opinion, hed like to avoid releasing on the end of the year because thats when big AAA pops out

[brittle arch]

this year gonna be insane

[cerulean sable]

he said this around a couple of years iirc

eitherway theres not much fandom overlap over SS and GTA 6 so it shouldnt be an issue

[quartz needle]

dont forget about subnautica 2 as well

gonna be a crazy year for games

[brittle arch]

let me tell you this funny story, a while back then i thought silksong gonna came out before ori will of the wisps

[torn echo]

yk the cake "arg", well they apparently posted something that linked it's self to july 15ths, atleast i think don't take my word (side notes : i put arg in " becuase it was never an arg and etc, and second i saw it on the silksong reddit)

[cerulean sable]

if it does happen then ill admit that Wilbo's shitposting is actually him hinting stuff

[quartz needle]

if its july 15th ill cry because thats when my semester exam period is

[cerulean sable]

but

until then, i will stay assuming that William earlier post was just a happy coincidence

[torn echo]

i mean, he did say april 2nd and BOOM april 2nd came around silksong (well he never said, yk what i mean)

[cerulean sable]

again, probably a coincidence

[torn echo]

hmmm... nah, IT'S JUST A GAME THEROY!!!

[cerulean sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816306195500498974/1315999042148503572/eatshitgrifter.gif

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/BgSCiMKG5EM

[soft trellis]

hey guys apparently some person called leth with the red name is important and said silksong is not 80 dollars? do you guys know if they exist on the server?

[cerulean sable]

me: "man i wish we have another game with this type of ambience, going down decrepit underground and abandoned kingdoms, fighting unimaginable horrors in alone as it saps your sanity..."
devs: "actually we have plenty of recent retro games that encapsulates that feel exac-"
me: "yeah but i find them too scary"

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/esWSHwTBkTc alternatively this entire album

ok buddy <@&283547423706447872>

[cerulean sable]

speaking of theres a game that fits that exact description that i am not gonna play but will definitely watch people play it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1804010/Labyrinth_Of_The_Demon_King/

Steam

Labyrinth Of The Demon King

Labyrinth of the Demon King is a challenging first-person dungeon crawler, set against the backdrop of a mythical feudal Japan besieged by demons. As a lone foot soldier, embark on a quest to track down and slay the Demon King who killed your Lord. But will you have the skill, resources and stamina needed to survive through all the horrors thi…

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[cunning geode]

ooooh this looks cool

[torn echo]

where did this come from vro?

bro woke up and chose violence

[opaque sigil]

some people get triggered by rainbows

[violet path]

SAY WHAT

[austere flame]

it was really fast

[violet path]

<@&283547423706447872>

[marsh ibex]

Yep

[violet path]

oh wombat already took care of it sorry

[cunning geode]

bazinga

[cerulean sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0iwiy7g1Us

[violet path]

that was so violent 😭

[marsh ibex]

cornball just realized our server profile fr

he might be stupid

[torn echo]

btw is this the OFFICAL discord for hollowknight? just asking (since i mnot sure i just joined a random fan discord server)

[cunning geode]

as official as it gets

[marsh ibex]

it’s the closest you’ll get

[cerulean sable]

were not official official we are defacto official

[torn echo]

yipeee

[marsh ibex]

TC doesn’t want the job of making official servers so they piggy backed off of us and made us kinda official

[violet path]

not raised right to immediately resort to such hatred over colors smh

[chrome basalt]

Feel free to create your own and usurp this server’s spot as the main server

[marsh ibex]

good on them server maintenance SUCKS

[cerulean sable]

to be official this server has to be held and owned by the actual game owners, in this case TC doesnt own it, rather its Benji and Simo (both who are actually playtesters / became playtesters after making this server)

[violet path]

say how did this server come to be

[fiery burrow]

Add it to the list of reasons as to why they are lazy devs

[cerulean sable]

but its partnered and TC acknowledges it as a official as it can get, even posting here and mentioning us a couple of times

[torn echo]

nuh uh

[soft trellis]

I am not sure if someone can answer pls tell me cuz I saw leth and he said silksong was not 80 dollars .I wanted to spy on his messages since he seems to be very important

[quartz needle]

where theres a game theres a discord server for it

[marsh ibex]

simo and benji loved hk very much

[quartz needle]

you got silkposted

[trim estuary]

Weren't the riddles hosted here

[marsh ibex]

so they made the server

server got bigger and eventually tc caught wind of it and said "damn you guys are tight want jobs"

[chrome basalt]

Yep

[marsh ibex]

and then they dapped each other up fr

[chrome basalt]

Good ol 2020 riddles

[quartz needle]

did they actually get employed by tc

[valid galleon]

unrelated but banger PrPi

[marsh ibex]

they are both playtesters yes

[marsh ibex]

unfortunate spelling mistake

[quartz needle]

does that mean theyve played silksong

[lusty lark]

SILKSONG ITS REAL!!!

[chrome basalt]

Probably

[fiery burrow]

Joker can you check #hk-general there's gore I think

[lusty lark]

wwwwww

[soft trellis]

fr it was a fake screenshot???

[valid galleon]

they're not called "staring-at-it-testers"

[soft trellis]

I thought it was real thats why I came here

[quartz needle]

jealous

[cerulean sable]

fun fact the only reason Benji and Simo became playtesters is they made this server after beating the game as fans, then Graig after joining it learned theyre from Australia too so he invited them with TC (even admitting that he was scared theyd be weirdos initially) to eat

and during the dinner with TC, TC was apparently like "anyway guys great lunch and meeting with you both, btw youre both playtesters now so expect some beta keys coming on soon thankssss" just on the fucking spot

[trim estuary]

oh

[heady iron]

some people paid thousands of dollars for silksong and benji and simo get if for free cause they pressed "New server"

[quartz needle]

peak

[soft trellis]

I'm already learning a lot about new lore on team cherry

[torn echo]

how big do you guys think the game will be?

[cerulean sable]

This is not made up, apparently even both them were fucking shocked how sudden it was

[soft trellis]

this is better than reddit

[valid galleon]

bigger

[cerulean sable]

From being invited just a get together to playtesters in an hour

[quartz needle]

at least 2x hollow knight

[cerulean sable]

anyway thats why they were both PTs now starting from Hidden Dreams onwards (and afaik theyre both focused on Silksong/doing their own thing)

[quartz needle]

for suresies and for truesies

[chrome basalt]

Reminds me of the story of how the directors of the Game of Thrones show got the job after one conversation with George RR Martin, because he asked them one question: “who are Jon Snow’s parents?” (a huge mystery in the story) and they guessed correctly, so they got the job.

[soft trellis]

as massive as the niagra falls

[strong trench]

this team cherry lore is awesome

[marsh ibex]

yeah prolly the cornball we just banned

[cunning geode]

the falls are getting smaller over time

what does this mean about silksong

[marsh ibex]

also tc said we should shave our heads bald

don

t be weird

[quartz needle]

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO

[glass dock]

Taaaaper

[polar stag]

I think significantly bigger than HK, or at least more polished. The art and animation already look leaps ahead of anything in HK.

[quartz needle]

well yeah no shit theyve had like

7 years to work on this

idk how quickly they made hk

[soft trellis]

hollow knight came from a game jam no?

[cunning geode]

hungry knight

[marsh ibex]

well they ran out of money while making hk and had to release it in an unfinished state

[cerulean sable]

i still remember a video shown by pre playtester Simo and Benji and both of them were just playing simulatenously, and while Simo was just talking to himself in the background whenever he saw an item, Benji kept dying to Brooding Mawlek while shouting "THIS CHEESE SPITTING CUNT, THIS GUY KEEPS SPITTING CHEESE, FUCKING CHEESE SPITTER"

[quartz needle]

https://tenor.com/bzyZi.gif

[marsh ibex]

while now we have slopes and fuckin reflections and shit

[quartz needle]

SLOPES MAN WE HAVE SLOPES

[cunning geode]

hollow knight is a big big game for a game jam

[cerulean sable]

i cant get over the reflections man

[heady iron]

crowsworn had reflections first, who's the ripoff now

[cerulean sable]

i love it so much

[soft trellis]

I thought the ideas of hollow knight came from a game jam is what I meant

[cerulean sable]

they didnt have to but hey lets add that detail cuz

[soft trellis]

imagine a game like that from game jam straight up

[polar stag]

The movement and platforming are gonna be so good

[marsh ibex]

the character design of the mc came from it

[cunning geode]

the hungry knight game had some of the very very early concepts

[quartz needle]

https://tenor.com/scHeCzjv5ho.gif

[cerulean sable]

yeah crowsworn is just another quake ripoff s i dont see the problem (they both have guns and jumping)

[lone crown]

I really hope we get to see a janitor-bug for comedic effect like Menderbug and repairing signs

[chrome basalt]

Apparently I’m never in the chat when they talk about actual silksong stuff, where are the reflections

[torn echo]

i love how alive the community got when they saw silksong confirmed to come out this year

[cunning geode]

doom: no jumping
stay losing quake nerds

[lone crown]

For polishing them floors

[fiery burrow]

Floors can reflect stuff above them now

[chrome basalt]

Bet

[trim estuary]

There were reflections in Hollow Knight though

[cerulean sable]

i can see them doing that again

[heady iron]

wilbo finally learned how to use render textures

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[heady iron]

or maybe Jack already knew

[cunning geode]

even better if its a nearly identical society of menderbugs just in another kingdom

[fiery burrow]

where

[cerulean sable]

yes but the ones in Silksong looked cookler

doesnt count

[soft trellis]

if silksong is that girl then what happened to the boy?

[tawdry valley]

It’ll be a guy who’s comically grumpy, and the only person hornet doesn’t have the energy to sass

[soft trellis]

Im talking about the main character

[trim estuary]

https://preview.redd.it/kha3y3dg4cl91.png?auto=webp&s=e7e8126479e7c3ed754ada0a63dff28c7770d360

[cerulean sable]

like cool cooler

[chrome basalt]

Birthplace

[torn echo]

do you think we'll get any post realise content?

[cunning geode]

wow sorry thats an amazing sentence

[fiery burrow]

mid

[tawdry valley]

Depends on the game ending you picked, usually you die for a higher purpose. Also all the vessels are genderless

[cunning geode]

so there is no "boy" first off, and the character in silksong is named "Hornet"

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-stare-meme-angry-gif-14312537171363175004

[cunning geode]

the character you play in Hollow Knight is just "The Knight" or "The Vessel" or "Ghost"

[lone crown]

Imagine how cool citdel knight's arena would look with reflections

[trim estuary]

What?

[lone crown]

The footage we had of it is extremely outdated

[heady iron]

HER NAME IS SILKSONG

https://tenor.com/view/fairly-odd-parents-meme-cosmos-timmy-wanda-gif-25405522

[tawdry valley]

Doubt we’d need it, unless features like bossrush and silksoul take time to create and are missing on release

[rocky flicker]

It’s still in the game they just made it first, the higher you go in the citadel the more high res it gets

[soft trellis]

ahhh i thought we would see both characters in the next game or something idk

[cunning geode]

have you beaten Hollow Knight yet?

[soft trellis]

no .-.

[chrome basalt]

Is it confirmed there is a boss rush? I know it makes sense to have one but still

[kindred pewter]

who's silksong

[cunning geode]

i figured 👹 you should probably do that before discussing the games in this channel or you WILL be spoiled

[soft trellis]

main character of next game

[cunning geode]

her name is Hornet like I said

[tawdry valley]

Very unlikely, as any characters with multiple ends to their story (like the Mc) can’t show up in silksong, at the risk of de-canonizing a possible playthrough

[chrome basalt]

Hornet Wyrm Silksong is her full government name

[cunning geode]

which i mean you would also know very early into Hollow Knight so... how much Hollow Knight have you played @soft trellis ?

[marsh ibex]

this one is magic and also sucks

[soft trellis]

I haven't played in agggeees

[marsh ibex]

it disappears after we get void heart

it's not a glorious floor reflection

[soft trellis]

so i forgot sry guys

[cunning geode]

explode

[strong trench]

I tried so hard to get a friend of mine to play hollow knight, I’d even watch him play it the entire time

But he got lost often and struggled on the bosses so he just gave up

makes me sad :(

[trim estuary]

Wait you can use magic in Unity?

[chrome basalt]

Can’t blame him, Hollow Mid is overrated

[marsh ibex]

what is coding aside from a form of magic?

[violet path]

instructions

[kindred pewter]

copying

[marsh ibex]

magic is giving instructions to something we don't understand to make stuff happen

[grim forum]

Haden freaky deakying lied

He said ss would come out yesterday

[soft trellis]

is there a silksong gaming convention you guys go too or something?

[torn echo]

it'll come out today, trust

[soft trellis]

like what u have for DnD as an example

[trim estuary]

No the magic equivalent of coding is AonDor I’m pretty sure

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-one-piece-laugh-gif-21028191

[strong trench]

we wish.

[chrome basalt]

Yeah but you’re not invited

[grim forum]

Im not either then...

[chrome basalt]

Yeah I’m actually in charge of it so only people I personally invite can go

[edgy valve]

can i snag an invite

[austere vessel]

i like how they made the boss area more bright

[cerulean sable]

TRUE

[austere vessel]

it looked very moody

[chrome basalt]

Also entry is $80 of you buy your tickets online, $90 if you want physical tickets

[austere vessel]

the puppet one i mean

[soft trellis]

bright you say?

[austere vessel]

what? am i gonna fight the sun?

[cerulean sable]

honestly gonna say it but the new Golem art goes harder despite the reduction of ambience

[empty jewel]

Guys they jsut announced silksong???!

[marsh ibex]

games been announced since 2019

[cerulean sable]

the readability is probably a main factor and while i will miss the atmosphere, i think the heat wave layer they added is going to look better in gameplay

[empty jewel]

no

[marsh ibex]

yes

[subtle lynx]

"new" we have seen it 3 years ago

[empty jewel]

hmmmm no

[marsh ibex]

they announced that it was a game in 2019

[soft trellis]

oh gabrie you talking about ninento right?

[empty jewel]

no!

[marsh ibex]

if you mean a new release window then yes we were told of a release window at the nintendo direct

[austere vessel]

269 days is not that much tbh

[empty jewel]

Nope, it was just announced, today

[austere vessel]

easy hustle

[calm thorn]

What if they reused this as the silksong final boss ?

[soft trellis]

it's hope that's what we needed. We needed a future that was bright ha haa get it?

[marsh ibex]

that's just not true

[quartz needle]

lets get you to bed grandpa

[marsh ibex]

and misinformation isn't allowed in the channel

[marsh ibex]

which I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt for but clearly you felt the need to quadruple down

[soft trellis]

when I saw ninendo stream

[empty jewel]

oh cmon im just being silly ....

[austere vessel]

was that the original prototype for the brooding mawlek

or was it a spider boss

[fossil pawn]

Skong tomorrow

[cerulean sable]

i mean it in relative terms

original launch trailer vs xbox/switch versions

[calm thorn]

Maybe will they reuse this in silksong

[torn echo]

silksong tomorrow

[empty jewel]

warned!

[chrome basalt]

@subtle lynx Hallownest will absolutely be mentioned or alluded to by someone, it’d be bizarre if it was as if it didn’t even exist

[marsh ibex]

not funny
didn't laugh smh

[torn echo]

what

[torn echo]

i was saying what the other guy said :(

[empty jewel]

Wait is Silksong before or after? the events of hollow knight?

[ruby linden]

sequel

[chrome basalt]

After (probably)

[marsh ibex]

we haven't had confirmation but most likely sequel

weavers left hallownest fairly recently in the game's timeline

[empty jewel]

oh right, yeah hopefully theill mention Hallownest

or maybe even visit?

who knows

[marsh ibex]

also sequels generally lead to more freeing storytelling capabilities yada yada

[chrome basalt]

Also whatever upgrades and tools Hornet gets in Pharloom will be far beyond her arsenal in the first game, which wouldn’t make sense if it took place before

[cerulean sable]

true as fuck

[subtle lynx]

I honestly don't think so because they said that they want new players to be able to grab the game and understand it completely on its own, and I don't think some random mentions of stuff that happened in the previous game would help silksong lore to be any better. I can see, for example, hornet saying that she is from another fallen kingdom, but I don't see her mentioning the pale king, the knight, the hollow knight, the radiance or anything like that. Maybe she will mention herrah

[cerulean sable]

this is why a prequel (while they can work) would be kinda lame for SIlksong

[chrome basalt]

That’s what I’m talking about with Fratute, it’d be bizarre if not even the Weavers or Hornet do so much as allude to Hallownest

[cerulean sable]

also that means she loses all her power progression as she goes into HK

[torn echo]

i hope we get more like summoning tools

[subtle lynx]

Not necessarily

[fiery burrow]

TK, THK, and Rad are completely irrelevant I could maybe see a short allusion to PK

Like from the weavers or something

[subtle lynx]

She has lot of moves from silksong in hk

[empty jewel]

Also, Hornet should have more interesting interactions with other NPC's... she has a voice!

[chrome basalt]

I’m not saying it has to be central to the plot, but there’s plenty of references to events in the first game that we never see and most players will never reach and they put those in, some sort of allusion to Hallownest or the events of the first game is by no means alienating to new players

[marsh ibex]

because they're abilities she is relearning

[fiery burrow]

Thats just spoiling players on HK though lol

[marsh ibex]

she's also doing stuff we haven't seen her do before and/or on a visually powerful scale

[chrome basalt]

I mean we take for granted now that HK has been out for eight years and we know about as much as we can, but when the game came out and there was no consensus on anything, no one knew what the fuck any character was talking about

[torn echo]

it will help me on my crusade of the ants

[quartz needle]

alternatively you could just not look into it that much lmao... i mean this is pretty standard for a lot of games. you dont "keep" all the abilities you learnt in god of war ragnarok

[subtle lynx]

I was talking about them being central to the point, I can see them being minor mentions or hornet alluding to them. But as I said, I don't expect any proper names. Maybe some related imagery in the background or secret rooms.

[chrome basalt]

Hallownest might be named, that’s as far as I’d say, but yeah it won’t be central to the plot or important to Pharloom as a kingdom

[fiery burrow]

It's explained in edge magazine

[subtle lynx]

But the jhin guy being made of void kind of contradicts me. Since I didn't expect any of the main hk plot elements to be here

[fiery burrow]

Part of what’s Hornet’s doing is she’s lost her traditional strength because of the time spent bound in this cage you saw in the introduction,” Gibson says, “And she’s sort of restoring it, and the Weavers – or what remains of them in this land – are helping her.

[subtle lynx]

So no void, dreams, light

[fiery burrow]

Sharpe void discussions

[chrome basalt]

The only thing is we have not one but TWO groups who have ties back to Hallownest, the Weavers and the Steel Assassins. The weavers, through Hornet and Hereah, have direct connections to the main plot of the first game, and the Steel Assassins POSSIBLY have something to do with the Void, based off of Jinn’s dream nail dialogue. So even if names aren’t named, I’d find it strange if there was basically nothing about the first game in the new one.

[fiery burrow]

Sharpe isn't void

[subtle lynx]

I wouldn't count weavers really since they are probably originally from this kingdom and their detour to hallownest doesn't seem to be relevant for the main plot. Maybe they will mention that some of them left to find other kingdoms

And that thanks to that hornet was born

[crisp pelican]

Im so glad that silksong is out

[chrome basalt]

I completely disagree, even if they’re originally from Pharloom, they lived in the Distant Village with Herrah, clearly had some involvement with Hornet, gave silk to the Pale King, and left specifically because of the infection. Those are a lot of ways they relate back to the main story of the last game, I don’t know why it wouldn’t be mentioned at all.

[subtle lynx]

If he is anything related to jhin, then he has to have some ties to void, which is relevant enough for this convo

[fiery burrow]

Jinn has nothing to do with the void?

[chrome basalt]

I also wasn’t talking about Sharpe, I actually forgot he exists, the other members of that group look a lot more like Jinn than he does.

[subtle lynx]

Because they would have to lore dump all of that into the game, and again, could be omitted to not confuse people or could be summarised

[subtle lynx]

Sharpe is part of that group

[fiery burrow]

Well I agree he's definitely related to Jinn and her masters

[torn echo]

i hope we get a different version of the colosseum of fools

[chrome basalt]

Since when does Team Cherry “lore dump” in any sort of overly expositional way? If you think there’s no way to acknowledge the events of Hollow Knight without alienating new players then you’re not using your imagination. Again, think about how much lore of Hollow Knight you either didn’t understand or completely missed the first time you played it.

[subtle lynx]

I would find it weird if we didn't get some sort of replayable arena

[lament igloo]

i legit cant wait for the game anymore bruh

[lone crown]

Yes you can

STARVE.

[lament igloo]

NO MORE

NO MOREEE

[torn echo]

NO!!!!!

[empty jewel]

yes

[shell hare]

Every time someone sends a message in this channel I personally delay the game by another hour

[empty jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/730209024368181319/951905996253589625/deadass-1.gif

...

[novel mango]

Im making another hollow knight animation involving hornet rolling

[shell hare]

thank you

[empty jewel]

wow

im just gonna let that marinate in there ...

[fiery burrow]

Stop giving me incentive to spam

[novel mango]

thats interesting

[stoic sigil]

Chat I have Food Poisoning can Team Cherry put me in Silksong

[subtle lynx]

No, I don't see how you can just randomly tell people about hallownest events without it seeming unnecessary and convoluted. You would have to mention where weavers went to, what happened when pale king arrived, why would he want to have a child with herrah (so mention radiance), then that she has to fall asleep, then explain that it didn't work so everyone got infected, then a random bug came and solved everything and then choose an ending to explain how hornet ended here? Which, again, could all be summarised and seems unnecessary. Hornet could just say that she is a descendant from the weavers and came from a different kingdom and you'll essentially end up the same. HK players don't need to relearn everything that happened in hk and new players don't need to learn all of that to explain why and how is hornet here

[torn echo]

killing you? /j

[shell hare]

[stoic sigil]

G

[kindred pewter]

someone translate this to me in fortnite terms

[torn echo]

whats the name of the shitpost account that had the cake pfp

[fiery burrow]

everydruidwaswr

[stoic sigil]

Hi

[lone crown]

Everyone knows Mario is cool as fuck. But who knows what he’s thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mythical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance.

I believe it was Kant who said “Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play.” Mario exhibits experience by crushing turts all day, but he exhibits theory by stating “Let’s-a go!” Keep it up, baby!

When Mario leaves his place of safety to stomp a turty, he knows that he may Die. And yet, for a man who can purchase lives with money, a life becomes a mere store of value. A tax that can be paid for, much as a rich man feels any law with a fine is a price. We think of Mario as a hero, but he is simply a one percenter of a more privileged variety. The lifekind. Perchance.

[stoic sigil]

Oh different shitpost acc

[torn echo]

the twitter one

[empty jewel]

hmmm, you cant just say perchance

[stoic sigil]

Why tjr fuck would you willingly go to Twitter??

[shell hare]

perchance

[shadow osprey]

so is silksong gonna come out first on nintendo or at the same time for everyone

[chrome basalt]

Again to recap and completely ignoring the steel assassins for a minute:

1. The weavers lived with the Queen of Deepnest and based off of the seal and charm on their den, had heavy involvement with Hornet.
2. They stayed in the area until very recently, they left because only recently did the infection reach Deepnest (Wanderer’s Journal), which means they were there for Hornet being born, raised, growing up, the Dreamer plan, the infection breaking out of THK, the Pale King disappearing, and Hallownest falling.
3. Wyrms are implied by Bardoon to be important creatures across the game world, even if they’re all extinct now. Hornet being half wyrm is definitely important and makes her special in a way I can’t imagine they don’t acknowledge.
4. Since SS is definitely a sequel and the weavers even being in Pharloom again is specifically because of the events of the last game, it’s entirely relevant to acknowledge the events of HK in some way at least from the weavers standpoint, and I mean Hornet too because she actually lives through and is important to the events of the game you play through, which the weavers don’t and wouldnt know about.

What you’re doing is assuming that in order to acknowledge those events, they have to explain it in detail in some sort of text crawl, which they absolutely don’t. Incidental dialogue about the infection, a home in another fallen land, a wyrm, that’s more than enough to fill in some of the gaps in our knowledge, and doing so wouldn’t be any more confusing to new players than any other the lore of Pharloom would be to the players of HK. In no way is tying the events of the first game (which Hornet and the weavers experienced firsthand) alienating to new players that won’t understand it anymore than the lore of Pharloom will be to them.

[subtle lynx]

At the same time for everyone iirc

[shell hare]

silksong actually wont come out because uhh i accidentally ate it

[shadow osprey]

bet

[shell hare]

it was really tasty. sorry

[shadow osprey]

everyone keeps telling me it wont come out 💀

6 years btw

[shell hare]

yeah it wont come out until well

[gray leaf]

not that crazy for game development

[shell hare]

well...

[brittle arch]

sea salt

[chrome basalt]

@subtle lynx forgive the many typos 💀

[shell hare]

its okay team cherry had another silksong in the vault so its okay that i ate it

[shadow osprey]

tbh im not that fan but I completed hollow knight and its a top 3 games ive played so I expect a lot from silksong

hopefully it doesnt cost 70

[gray leaf]

it wont

[brittle arch]

not that fan
top 3 games ever played

[shadow osprey]

since its and indie

[novel mango]

Hornet rolling

[shadow osprey]

i meant im not obssesed like completing it 3 times

[fiery burrow]

$80 for Silksong 😍

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-walker-nostalgia-critic-clap-gif-22806849

[shell hare]

$100 for silksong lets manifest it chat

[glossy berry]

really not a very long time lmao its a 3 person team

[brittle arch]

i completed it 3 times and it's only top 10

below my 9 gachas favourite game

[shadow osprey]

true

[gray leaf]

9 gachas? brother

[novel mango]

Im beginning my animation career trust

[lone crown]

The only goated gacha is battle cats

[brittle arch]

is league gacha ? I kinda think so

[glossy berry]

😟
that bank statement looks foul

[subtle lynx]

If you just think mentioning the infection, home from another land and wyrm is enough, then I agree and you wouldn't even be mentioning any proper names besides wyrm, which is irrelevant to say directly if there's no wyrm related stuff in silksong. You can just say she is half weaver and half superior being or STH like that

[lone crown]

Because you can just bypass all the gacha

[gray leaf]

zzz is peak actually

[shadow osprey]

dbz dokkan is the only good gacha

[fiery burrow]

Battle Cats and Genshin the best gachas

[subtle lynx]

Np, I'm speaking in the worst English possible

[novel mango]

If you just ignore the fan servoce

[lone crown]

Seed track my beloved

[rigid rapids]

Holy yap

[brittle arch]

Genstink 🤮

[gray leaf]

idm fan service as long as it isnt overly saturated

[leaden delta]

this is false but it's the best

[chrome basalt]

And I’m typing on my phone, level playing field lol

[torn kayak]

I gave hornet a gun

[shell hare]

is infinity nikki gacha it has a gacha function for outfits

[torn kayak]

Spare me Team Cherry

[subtle lynx]

Same, that's why it automatically caps STH

[gray leaf]

yeah it is

[shadow osprey]

yea true it is the best gacha

[torn echo]

i only look at people who i care about, and even then i don't go on it much

[shell hare]

infinity nikki is my favorite gacha <3

[brittle arch]

guys there's no best gacha, it's already time sink and repeat gameplay if it's gacha

[novel mango]

Whos next to roll whos the next victim

[torn kayak]

Best gacha is amongus

[rigid rapids]

Imagine playing mid ass silksong when you can invest your time on gacha games

[gray leaf]

i kinda like to have my regular game with some timesink

[brittle arch]

i don't do timesink

i don't want life to flash away

[novel mango]

The knight or zote

[shell hare]

ZOTE

[rigid rapids]

All gacha games are for dysfunctional adults

[versed pollen]

?????

[chrome basalt]

But again my only caveat is that Hornet being half wyrm MUST be significant, since wyrms are so significant to the world even if they’re all extinct. Hell, them all being extinct makes it more important that she’s related to one. So while the Radiance or the Shade Lord definitely won’t be central to the plot, I can’t imagine how they’d justify from a worldbuilding standpoint, Hornet’s half wyrm nature not being very important.

[shadow osprey]

gachas are just virtual casinos

[brittle arch]

900 pulls for c6 zote 🥰

[versed pollen]

Clearly one of these is a lie....

[gray leaf]

he aint meta, he sucks

[novel mango]

Time to animate the knight

[brittle arch]

bad takes

[gray leaf]

his gameplay is super stiff,. everyone agrees he's a horrible investment

[torn kayak]

Consider me a professional gambler then baby WOOOOO

[glossy berry]

at least virtual casinos cant market as explicitly towards kids

[gray leaf]

ive spent 1 euro in total on gacha games, i've truly lost the plot

[shadow osprey]

im a gambler in dragon ball legends

[brittle arch]

he only show his true potential if you learn his moves

[glossy berry]

its so over
remortgage the house next

[torn kayak]

wait aren’t virtual casinos a real thing

[shadow osprey]

its over for you

[torn kayak]

Reskinned virtual casino cough

[brittle arch]

20 bucks for me

[subtle lynx]

I personally believe pharloom is going to have some wyrm related lore there so there's no issue in mentioning hornet comes from one.

But if it doesn't, then there's no need to say the word "wyrm" , you can just say she comes from a powerful being and it will have the same results in this game

[torn kayak]

CAPTAIN CITRUS

HELLO

[gray leaf]

but his damage output is locked behind a complicated, specific, series of inputs which is difficult to pull off properly

without it you're basically doing no damage at all

[torn kayak]

CITRON

[subtle lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-hey-sup-heygirl-flirt-gif-5190444

[torn kayak]

God I love garden warfare

[brittle arch]

git gut

[torn kayak]

Best gacha game

[brittle arch]

I swear this guy got coolest design in pvz

[rigid rapids]

Me when vampire sunflower

[torn kayak]

Nah Citron takes the cake

[chrome basalt]

Getting entirely into the speculative territory, I’d wager we’re going to learn a LOT about the exact circumstances of Hornet’s birth, everything we really know about it is from Midwife, which I cannot imagine is the full extent of the story.

[brittle arch]

first version

[torn kayak]

His aura is unmatched

[brittle arch]

i don't even know anythign about second modern warface

[empty jewel]

I mean, its really up to how the npc's dialogue is constructed.

She could just retell a very summarized version of her perspective of the events in HK? Or just reference things here and there like any sequel would.

It would be unnatural if she never mentioned anything specific from her past.

[torn kayak]

Why tf are people talking about silksong here

[novel mango]

Nah id silk

[torn kayak]

What is this a silksong channel

Get out 🗣🗣

[shadow osprey]

hollow knight gacha when

[tawdry valley]

I mean what else is available. “And also a weaver sitting in the maternity ward cast a spell/said a prophecy”

[brittle arch]

I'm silking it

[gray leaf]

whne ss releases

you pull for dresses

[empty jewel]

Also, most games usually have the "historian npc" thing? Could be used to expose some of her origins, without it being an exposition on the HK events.

[brittle arch]

why is everyone wanna cut loose with hallownest, the lore is not even clear yet

[torn kayak]

Pulling for crests would be crazy

[shadow osprey]

nah i wanna pull hornet

[empty jewel]

You cant cut hallownest if you're playing as hornet

[torn kayak]

Crest gambler

[chrome basalt]

You’re thinking from the pov of someone who only knows the story of HK. TC controls the story and we really don’t know much about Hornet’s childhood or the weavers at all, there’s a LOT of things they could do.

[shadow osprey]

just realized hornet is the face of silksong thats how newbie I am in this world

[leaden delta]

so true hornet skins

[tawdry valley]

Like have hornet talk about her childhood?

[subtle lynx]

I personally don't see it happening since I don't see it being relevant to the main pharloom plot. Hornet will mention the stuff we know.

Also, it seems to me from the trailers that we won't see many alive weavers. I think we only see one and she is kind of in a trance

[leaden delta]

wait that’s lowk not even a bad idea

[gray leaf]

people will mod skins in, wouldn't rly work

[torn kayak]

Need a Void hornet skin immediately

[brittle arch]

hornet have waifu potential

[subtle lynx]

Also this

[torn kayak]

stfu

[shadow osprey]

what about console players like me

[empty jewel]

I guess, but she was clearly involved in the events of HK. I doubt TC would cut that part

[tawdry valley]

Hallownest lore is likely to remain Hallownest lore. Weaver’s journeyed to hallownest - their story is largely going to be in pharloom anyways.

[torn echo]

hornet gambiling

[tawdry valley]

Hornet doesn’t need to explain her character, we will literally just discover it as we play

[gray leaf]

too bad

[chrome basalt]

She could, but I mean more that the weavers know things that she potentially doesn’t about her conception that she’d have to learn. Pretty common storytelling troupe, and I mean I can’t imagine you go through the whole game and don’t learn anything new about Hornet. Easiest way to do that is have Hornet learn it with you.

[rigid rapids]

It would be funny if hornet just becomes a silent protagonist

[brittle arch]

she talk in gameplay

hope she can roast bugs

[subtle lynx]

Agreed with this guy

[brittle arch]

or flirt

[tawdry valley]

Yeah but the context of that will likely be weaver lore, not hornet lore

[torn kayak]

I like how the two groups of this channel are either talking about serious silksong stuff or fucking Gacha gambling

[shadow osprey]

why is hh so satisfying tho such an asmr game

[tawdry valley]

Hornet being roped in, not weavers being roped into hornet

[brittle arch]

not just gacha

[gray leaf]

she'll probably just make vague remarks you need to use to put the story together

[chrome basalt]

Except we don’t know the plot of SA aside from “the kingdom is haunted, we’re probably gonna try and fix that when we get to the citadel”.

[brittle arch]

roped hornet 😳

[torn kayak]

Mossbag will do it for us

[tawdry valley]

Loud incorrect buzzer

[chrome basalt]

I’m fully aware, that’s what I’m saying.

[subtle lynx]

Yeah, we are just speculating

[torn echo]

i would love to do that

[brittle arch]

theres theory that bugs all being controlled like puppet

[torn kayak]

Gonna be a nice refresher to see the main character actually talking

[chrome basalt]

That’s why I prefaced this whole discussion with the fact that we’re entering more speculative territory

[gray leaf]

i'm trusting him to find out all the cool details and put all the pieces together

[torn kayak]

Can’t wait to see how hornet’s personality is like

[neon light]

Will there be gambling in silksong?

[tawdry valley]

More likely just the visual effect of the spell cast on the kingdom

[tawdry valley]

It was in HK so yeah

[brittle arch]

she's a cold woman as in hollow knight

[torn kayak]

His hollow knight dream cast is promising

[pallid pine]

Me after i betted both my kidneys silksong wouldent be at the nintendo direct

[austere vessel]

Lace will be Silksongs Hornet

[torn kayak]

All though I believe everyone should be voiced by Chris pratt

[austere vessel]

if you get me

[tawdry valley]

You are unwelcome here. To #hk-meme with you, foul demon

[brittle arch]

deserved

[quartz cave]

Hi gays

[neon light]

It was? I don’t remember there being gambling

[brittle arch]

who me ?

[torn kayak]

hello moderator

[gray leaf]

[torn kayak]

Shit that said gays didn’t it

[quartz cave]

Are you gay

[brittle arch]

no

[chrome basalt]

Given the curse in Pharloom appears related to silk, it’s not that much of a reach to say maybe the weavers are involved somehow. Pretty easy connection to Hornet learning more about herself (and her powers) there.

[quartz cave]

Then no

[torn echo]

out of every area we've been shown so far, what do you think will be the coolest area

[neon light]

How tf did you know?

[brittle arch]

there's no shame

be proud my man

[quartz cave]

I am john gay

[torn kayak]

Im no man

[tawdry valley]

Yeah

[gray leaf]

one quick look at this server tells everything you need to know

[torn kayak]

Not Anymore…

[brittle arch]

rude

[torn echo]

i can't wait to see the final boss

[brittle arch]

cool

[torn kayak]

It’s gonna be the knight

[tawdry valley]

Rancid eggs sell for random amounts, tuk sells random cost rancid eggs

[torn echo]

ah yes, the knight

[quartz cave]

Today is a wonderful day people, i finally finished my whole miitopia roster

[brittle arch]

somehow Radiance returned

[torn kayak]

I can confirm it’s the knight

[torn echo]

fire

[torn kayak]

If it’s not the knight I’m gay

[gray leaf]

well if you say it then it must be true, I trust you

[chrome basalt]

You’re gay

[torn echo]

screenshotted

[torn kayak]

Which isn’t a bad thing

[naive path]

Final boss will just be a dripped out zote

[quartz cave]

Chat hop on tomodachi life

[torn kayak]

You’ll rue to day my prophecy becomes true

[brittle arch]

i thought hollow knight did that

[torn echo]

nuh uh

[torn kayak]

Yeah I have a pretty trust worthy source

[brittle arch]

I don't play nintendo games

[quartz cave]

Make an exception for tomodapeak

[neon light]

I thought you were killed by Tim straight?

[gray leaf]

i lost my gamecard unfortunately

[chrome basalt]

Completely throwing out logic, the Shade Lord being the final boss is stupid but having it be some sort of hidden extra hard boss like the Nameless King in Dark Souls 3 would be awesome.

[brittle arch]

is the game gacha ?

[quartz cave]

I will always come back actually

[torn kayak]

Wait wasn’t it John pork a week ago

[naive path]

Odd question but do we know if silksong is before or after hollow knight

[quartz cave]

Damnit who wrote while i was replying

[gray leaf]

it's been 6 years, when's it coming back?

[hearty stream]

gambling = worth 😍

[torn kayak]

Before presumably

[quartz cave]

What no

[pallid pine]

REAL

[quartz cave]

You just have to trust yourself

https://tenor.com/view/tomodachi-life-mii-miis-nintendo-nintendo-switch-gif-9349228552458776318

[brittle arch]

dissapointing

also i don't have switch console

[quartz cave]

It does have gambling though

[chrome basalt]

It’s after.

[empty jewel]

So Silksong takes places six-seven years after hollow knight?

[torn kayak]

Wait it is?

[hushed glen]

final boss is the chanter of the weaver ballad #iftcwontleakiwilljustmakethingsup

[quartz cave]

We do not know

[torn kayak]

I need to be educated

[brittle arch]

who knows, but that might be cool

[real river]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-gif-5467671856762999145

[quartz cave]

Who the hell is us

[gray leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spider-man-web-of-shadows-depressed-sad-gif-16524395

[empty jewel]

I mean, HK was released on 2018 right?

[chrome basalt]

2017

[neon light]

👴

[quartz cave]

Why is john spider walking like that, is he stupid?

[empty jewel]

Ok, so it takes place 8 years after HK maybe?

[real river]

bro already has silksong ?

[torn echo]

the build variety will go wild

[brittle arch]

woah is that Hornet ?

[torn kayak]

Mods actually finished silksong

[chrome basalt]

It’s true, I was around when it came out

[gray leaf]

he's just sad be nice

[torn echo]

time traveller

[gray leaf]

alternate universe, yes

[quartz cave]

Why doesnt he happy

[gray leaf]

anyone can be spiderman right?

[torn kayak]

You’d have to be an orphan

[torn echo]

i hope we get atleast a small reason on why there has been zero communication from TC

[gray leaf]

she's an orphan alright

[quartz cave]

Nah you just need to uh

[torn kayak]

They live in Australia who knows what happens there

[quartz cave]

Have any kind if super strength and i think thats it

[real river]

hornet a type of wasp has lifespan of about 12-22 days ( worker wasps) and the queen wasp has lifespan of about an year. so 8 year time gap is not possible

[torn kayak]

Hornet CANNOT lift anything

[real river]

(ignore me i know this is video game, and i yapped a bunch)

[empty jewel]

They were probably changing alot of thing during development, and didnt want to include things that might be cut in the release

[torn kayak]

She built like a dork

[quartz cave]

Why are you talking about mid

[torn kayak]

What

I mean wait

She did lift the knight from that crumbling hallway

[empty jewel]

Hornet Silksong Jones

[shell hare]

tiso

[torn kayak]

I’ve gotten so desperate for silksong that I’ve downloaded the little hornet skin on hk and played two runs back to back

[shell hare]

true i need to feed my miis

[quartz cave]

So peak!!!

[torn kayak]

He’s dead

[quartz cave]

Have you made an amogmii yet

[shell hare]

AMOGMII?

[torn kayak]

god this game ruined me

[shell hare]

i shrimply must

[quartz cave]

Oh wow you need to learn a lot go make one

[lament igloo]

word?

[hollow cedar]

You're not as desperate as me gang, I've taken out my controller's batteries and pretended to play the Silksong demo to see how it feels 😭

[quartz cave]

Show your faith to john mogus

[shell hare]

i will

[empty jewel]

The final Silksong boss is gonna be the silliest little goober bug, cutie patootie fluffy guy, silly small and adorable

[quartz cave]

This is why youre peak as fuck ping me when youre done

[empty jewel]

And you are going to murder it

[torn echo]

i just realised, we got a minecraft movie before silksong...

[lament igloo]

true asf

[shell hare]

opening tomodachi life rn

[quartz cave]

Peak,,,

[torn echo]

just know that it is highly likly silksong comes out on a persons (in this community) Bday

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/why-god-do-you-this-gif-3540626

[empty jewel]

imposible

[ripe cliff]

well yeah thats a 100% likelihood

[empty jewel]

Silksong is gonna come out on a new day

[pure wave]

hope its not on mine

[torn echo]

if it comes out on june 6th... i'm one lucky guy

[formal karma]

i hope it waits until after early july

[torn echo]

same, i'll be on summer break

[lone crown]

After may would be excellent for me

[torn echo]

99.9% chance it comes out after may

if it does get delayed, i would have a life time crashout, yet i would continue to wait and then play it

[rustic ore]

the 1100s peasantry when i show them a BotW speedrun

[empty jewel]

im 100% sure it will come after right now

[torn echo]

if it comes out this month, i will scream untill i explode (it will NOT come out this month)

[vivid belfry]

if it was coming out this month they definitely would have just given the release date

and having the actual release date drop in a sizzle real would have been the fucking funniest thing ever

[torn echo]

exacly why i put "it will NOT come out this month"

[cyan forum]

E e en gla fyr

Avanti avanti

[quartz lynx]

I think silksong will either come mid summer (like july) or late november

[torn echo]

what

[fossil pawn]

wtf is todays DSN

[quartz lynx]

No inbetween

[torn echo]

hes speaking hollowknight

[quartz lynx]

Today there is...

Shockingly

NO NEWS

[torn echo]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quartz lynx]

Who could've predicted it

[pallid pine]

This will be in silksong trust me

[torn echo]

if theres not im going to find you

[fossil pawn]

Maybe he will play balatro tomorrow

[lament igloo]

i got a question if you are allowed to answer it , did the mods actually finish silksong (including yourself)?

[vivid belfry]

what

[lament igloo]

multiple people said the mods have finished ss

[fossil pawn]

holy shit the mods have played SIlksong?

[fiery burrow]

Mods aren't playtesters

[lament igloo]

then who are the ones who have stated the mods have already finished silksong 💀

[novel mango]

The mods have a connection with leth by speedphone so yes

[fiery burrow]

Lying

[lament igloo]

just search up mods have played silksong

there are a bunch of results there.

[fiery burrow]

8?

A lot of which are jokes?

[fossil pawn]

I Wanna See people's Opinions about a question Now that the game has a release window

[lament igloo]

i saw some more these days bruh i promise

[lament igloo]

hit us

[fossil pawn]

Do you guys think Silksong is Fully complete, last bug fixing stage, or still in development?

[lament igloo]

mostly this is what everyone wonders atm

[fossil pawn]

i think it is in last bug fixing/final optimization stage

[lament igloo]

ok so this is a speculation, i think they are def in their last fixing bugs/testing stage if they decided to update the steam page, add some new assets , basically preparing for the finish line, and that 5 sec appereance and the confirmation from nintendo and leth (reposting their tweet) says prob that soon ,we are gonna get a trailer with the release date from tc , not xbox not nintendo, team cherry this is just speculation

but if we piece together everything happening atm , it seems logical

so for short yes they might be in their last testing phase

[fiery burrow]

Since we've gotten a release window from both Xbox and Nintendo its only fitting that the release date gets revealed by Playstation

[lament igloo]

nah,,,

[stark prism]

why is everybody silking it

[lament igloo]

its only right to do so

[lament igloo]

getting a release date from any other console is kinda the unlikely scenario here, because its just ass to get your own game's release date revealed by another console

instead of revealing it yourself (talking abt tc doing it)

it just feels unlikely

but still valid argument

[lone crown]

@opaque sigil Gonna fight tempered gore wish me luck

[soft trellis]

in november of the nut? then I would fail that month when it finally comes out then

[lament igloo]

wild thing to say lowkey.

[lament igloo]

also the game must be complete if they decided to show us pretty much the reason it took so long

[opaque sigil]

good luck

[fossil pawn]

SLOPESSS

[lament igloo]

yep.

[soft trellis]

I have a serious question tho guys. Are you just now also getting into hollow knight since you want to finish the game before Silksong comes out?

or is just me? thats reason why I want to play it soon

[lament igloo]

well myself has finished hollow knight 112% sometime ago

but its cool getting into it now tho

[fossil pawn]

Is that really why it took so long? i mean, I know it would be technically difficult and such, but 6 YEARS?

[lament igloo]

take your time with it so you can enjoy to its absolute peak

[formal marsh]

most people here have already played HK, but i imagine quite a few are doing new playthroughs because of it

[soft trellis]

but like a new challenge u always wanted to do but couldn't in hk you do it before silksong release you know what i mean

[formal marsh]

i myself am doing a steel soul (permadeath) playthrough

there isnt much new for me to do that wouldnt be ridiculously hard IMO

bindings (ugh) and i think thats kind of it

[lament igloo]

not sure, but lots of people said working with slope physics in a metroidvania is tough

coding every enemy to interact with it the facti can break the background.

[lone crown]

...

[fossil pawn]

In HK, whenever TC needed a small slope, the game spawned an invisible platform that just lifted the knight up diagonally, according to Blue

[lament igloo]

hmmm..

[fossil pawn]

So would it really be that hard to do that, but just Down instead?

[formal marsh]

pretty sure the SS ones are actual slopes

we see hornet sliding off them

[lament igloo]

well i might aswell document on that

[fossil pawn]

Lemme look at smth Rq

I shall return with an image

[lament igloo]

aight

[lament igloo]

they are indeed but we are wondering the actual reason behind it taking so long

[fiery shore]

OMG SILKSONG CONTENT ?!

[formal marsh]

they just added a lot of things

[loud laurel]

because they're still making the game if i had to guess

[gray parcel]

They delayed it to make it more mid

[fiery shore]

i mean if they're actually still adding new content instead of perfectionning the existing, that would be crazy

[lament igloo]

i mean at this point if they confirmed this release window, (Also leth reposting nintendos tweet is important) its something

but they arent gonna throw the release date yet

[gray parcel]

Perfect and Hollow knight in the same sentence 💔

[lament igloo]

cuz they wanna finish up things with the game

[fiery shore]

WHAT ARE THE THINGS

PLEASE EXPLAIN

[loud laurel]

polish

[lament igloo]

most likely last bug fixes, last stages of testing the game , the slopes they added in process idk.

[lament igloo]

that too

[fiery shore]

the slope that took 6 years to develop.

[formal marsh]

did TC do that themselves? studios usually hire translators for other languages

[lament igloo]

slopes*

[fiery shore]

I am sory, the slopes.

[loud laurel]

turning you into a sardine

[formal marsh]

You can't silence me.

[lone crown]

@opaque sigil I did it! One cart only

Very awesome battle

[earnest cliff]

sloppy toppy silksong

[tacit cosmos]

huh

[opaque sigil]

nice

[lone crown]

Saved that shit as an investigation

[earnest cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-speech-bubble-gif-26040021

[lone crown]

Annoying to find normally

[opaque sigil]

now just imagine what shagaru magala fight must look like

[lone crown]

Tempered nu udra gives me 3 Hunters Mark III's

And tempered gore only gives me one. Fuck you

[opaque sigil]

lucky

and unlucky

[lone crown]

I fought zoh a couple times for practice and its a very awesome fight

[formal marsh]

!wiki millibelle

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Millibelle

Hollow Knight Wiki

Millibelle

Millibelle the Banker is a Merchant in Hollow Knight. She provides banking services for a single fee.

Gender

Female

[formal marsh]

thanks

[lone crown]

Once i go back with rarity 8 zoh lance it should die even quicker

[opaque sigil]

I did 17 minutes with the arkveld rarity 8 gunlance think that's the fastest zs one I've done

[lone crown]

Awesome

fastest time for me was only 24...

[fossil pawn]

I think i have figured out how this works. in stage 1, hornet goes down the slope with the same method Tc used in HK. then, in stage 2, hornet does an animation that shifts her hitbox, and her sprite as she does the jump. in stage 2, the invisible platform despawns so it doesent do anything that would mess up the jumping animation, like triggering hornet to do the sliding animation. once hornet clears the gap, the invisible platform respawns, going to stage 3 but doing the same thing as stage one.

im prolly wrong, but thats my guess.

[harsh yarrow]

Hm

What slot color is the orange jug?

[fossil pawn]

red i think

[wet tulip]

what method tc used in hollow knight are you talking about?

[compact night]

Guys

[compact night]

What is your FAVORITE hollow knight character? It can be a very obscure character famous character or a character nobody has heard of but is in the game

[quartz lynx]

Silkslope

[fossil pawn]

i wonder what it does

[formal marsh]

esqueci dessa época

[wet tulip]

if they are still adding content they should not have agreed to a 2025 release year

its really that simple

[pastel urchin]

🙂😅

[quartz lynx]

I like mantis lords bc they chill af

[quartz lynx]

Shaw

[mortal bluff]

Maximal days until Silksong is 269 days, only 2 more NICE!s away until Silksong at the absolute latest.

[quartz lynx]

Holy mother of wrong

[mortal bluff]

This makes me want to throw up

[fiery burrow]

I take pride in that

[quartz lynx]

You should be banned from this server for that ungodly tier list

[fiery burrow]

50 bucks says its Elderbug in F triggering these reactions

[mortal bluff]

Elderbug F is a sin, and even if you hate godmaster, the godseeker is a high end npc

[quartz lynx]

7/10 ragebait ngl

[mortal bluff]

Brumm is solid as fuck as well

Dung defender placed perfectly

[ionic spruce]

His acordian is annoying

[fiery burrow]

Godhome lore sucks so Godseeker sucks by extension

[quartz lynx]

Should've spread out the best npcs across low tiers instead of all in F

[wet tulip]

i ignore elderbug