sk-discussion

[crystal spire]

ye ik but still feels weird cause games generally do update it fast especially on steam

[green kestrel]

Slopes

🤤

[brittle arch]

slopes

[hexed atlas]

they're gonna push the 2025 deadline to its absolute limit while they work on adding round surfaces

[brittle arch]

woah

[green kestrel]

slopes but instead of x = y, its dy/dx

😔

[brittle arch]

you can remove both d right

[crystal spire]

mafs

[green kestrel]

😨 😨

[coarse leaf]

I FUCKING LOVE DERIVATIVES

[brittle arch]

cuz they're same

[hexed atlas]

isnt that what walter white made

[green kestrel]

its like a tid bit of my heart shattered

[green kestrel]

Better than integrals 🤤

[brittle arch]

if i'm wrong its because im not that good at math

[crystal spire]

he made protein powder

[split tide]

Integrals are da best

[brittle arch]

i'm language major

[green kestrel]

Dw, its calculus

[coarse leaf]

Fifferential equations:

[split tide]

I love the lebesgue measure

[green kestrel]

Okay but they're easy 😔

[hexed atlas]

i love (gimme 30 seconds to hit the random button on wikipedia)

[crystal spire]

ok i adios just wanted to express my steam page concern SHAWWWWWW

[carmine island]

I’ve got BPD and have manic tendencies so I tell people I’m fucking insane it doesn’t have the same affect as this tho they just think I’m crazy and avoid me

[split tide]

They're easy until they're hard

[hexed atlas]

... Dušan Businský

[split tide]

At which point you just solve them numerically so ig they're easy again

[carmine island]

Bad rng on the mental disorders slot machine

[green kestrel]

could be worse, you could have schizophrenia

I dunno how to console people

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sponge-jumpscare-scared-what-gif-6257162990672816180

[brittle arch]

I think i won't tell people that i'm insane although i'm not, i don't want people to avoid me

[carmine island]

I’m not looking for pity or consolation lol

[hexed atlas]

i wont claim anything unless i get a proper diagnosis but all my autistic friends peer review me as one

[green kestrel]

Ay, fair enough, must be exhausting being insane though 😔

[brittle arch]

I think my only sanity problem is i'm very easily get angry from my past cringe mistake

[green kestrel]

Everyone's autistic 🤤

[carmine island]

No lol I have meds and get to go outside the asylum every other weekend

[brittle arch]

what

[carmine island]

I’m humouring

[brittle arch]

oh

[green kestrel]

How does white padding taste

[carmine island]

Idk I’ve never been to one of those padded cells

I don’t think they have them in Australia since there’s a lot more support/aid for dealing with mental illness nowadays

Pretty lucky of me to be born in a time where there’s a fuckton of things that can help along with people around me being generally supportive

Anyway let’s talk about Silksong cope or something before more people join in on the pity party

[green idol]

Silgsong

[covert canopy]

guys since the nintendoe switch 2 comes out june 5th [i think], do u guys think silksong will come before or after

[carmine island]

A secret third option

[green idol]

Probably after

[covert canopy]

i feel like after

[covert canopy]

delay until we rot

[serene otter]

on the 22nd of december

[covert canopy]

nah august

trust

[green idol]

I mean I was kinda suspicious when nintendo announced the release date cuz a couple years back xbox also supposedly announced the released date

[covert canopy]

if it doesnt come out in august i allow team cherry to delay it for another year

[carmine island]

I’m not saying a delay since a delay would just make it further after June 5th

[sinful flare]

anyone wanna play league of legends

[covert canopy]

nah but nintendo is way more legit and does way more confirmations

[sinful flare]

euw server tho

[covert canopy]

i could tmr lol

[covert canopy]

no nvm

[sinful flare]

rip

[green idol]

Lets hope so

And also leth did retweet the announcment so

[covert canopy]

i started hollow knight end of last year and 112 percent it a month or so ago

[carmine island]

Leth reposted the 2025 announcement so it’s pretty much confirmed

[covert canopy]

so i didnt have to wait that lonh

[green idol]

Woah

[covert canopy]

rip to the og's

[carmine island]

Pretty much as in everything but something directly from tc

[green idol]

Good job

[covert canopy]

who here did 5th pantheon

i gave up on that shi

[green idol]

Nuh uh😭

I mean ill keep trying but its hard

[covert canopy]

bro me and my friend spent 2 weeks on nightmare king grim

😭

[green idol]

I wanna try and get all the achievments

[covert canopy]

steam?

[green idol]

Yeah

[covert canopy]

aw hell nah

i hate speedrunning

im playing elden ring rn tho

the bosses in that game r HARD

[green idol]

I started playing back when silksong was announced and still havent beaten p5

[sinful flare]

i did radhog yet ive yet to complete p5

[covert canopy]

like i quit on the first non skipable boss

like goddam elden ring lemme breath

i was called maidenless like 40 times😭 i get it bro

[green idol]

The first boss is a pretty steep learning curve but once u get past that youll start getting the mechanics

[covert canopy]

yeh

yk the tarnished round table?

[green idol]

Or u just do an op build and destroy everything lol

[covert canopy]

i was playing on the tv in the lounge room, and the maiden in there put my head on her lap

uncomfortable 20 sev

[green idol]

Hehe

Her sidequest is pretty cool

[covert canopy]

man i aint going to her until. i put that ps5 in a private room

no need to explain to my parents " its a game "

not again

[green idol]

Lol

[covert canopy]

lmao

[cerulean sable]

rest easy

our side is going to win

it is written

(and retweeted )

[green idol]

Yeah I have hope

I dont really even care about when this year its coming just as long as it is

I need it in my life

Its been so lonh

[cerulean sable]

honestly i was actually surprised some people thought it was vaporware

like maybe im biased given that weve always been close contacts here with Leth and Graig which reassured us, but it was actually to see people going "wtff i thought it was dead??"

[carmine island]

I cope like it’s for survival like it’s the last sip of water I’ll ever get

Ribs visible eyes bloodshot coping away

[carmine island]

Taco you’re not biased you’re just right

[formal karma]

I think it's has to do with them seeing a lot of indies evaporate

But then people thinknsilksong would be a "cyberpunk" situation. They have observed history but understand none of the contexts that caused it to happen

Also half the internet can't use Google to even check the simplest of facts

[bleak jackal]

easy ahh boss

[carmine island]

Fact checking is for nerds real ones make it the fuck up

[strange gulch]

even David Kazi is puzzled

[formal karma]

Day 115 of posting cardinals until silksong releases

I think they're hungry I'd best go feed then

[carmine island]

All it took for someone who at least was part of team cherry’s dev team to talk about Silksong was axe body spray trying to stay relevant

[calm thorn]

Bait used to be believable

[bleak jackal]

its real

https://x.com/DavidKaziDev/status/1908453449877905825

David Kazi (@DavidKaziDev) on X

Wut

X · Apr 5, 2025, 9:35 AM

[hollow cedar]

Will Silksong be compatible with the Xbox One S?

[bleak jackal]

yes

[fiery shore]

computrr when silksong code

[modest jetty]

Are there any 'leaks or rumors' for potential release date?

[hollow cedar]

It says this though

[bleak jackal]

2025

[formal karma]

8 month window

[bleak jackal]

why the fuck does it say 2024

[carmine island]

Technically no

[fiery shore]

The cake guy on twitter made a thing about July 15

[hollow cedar]

But in the main page it says Xbox one, is it just a glitch?

[kindred pewter]

Xbox is stupid

[modest jetty]

The what guy

[formal karma]

That was fake wasnt it

[carmine island]

“The cake guy” that’s William lmao

[bleak jackal]

pretty sure its gonna be there it just said not compatible its not out

[modest jetty]

True

[cinder island]

It's vapourware because they mist the release window

[hollow cedar]

It's confirmed that we will be getting the game in 2025, but a kind of reliable leaker said it's coming out in June

[gray leaf]

I think this would mean it's compatible with xbox one S and X, but I cant vouch for certain

[bleak jackal]

no its little bomey

[bleak jackal]

can i get the link

[formal karma]

Reliable leaker- ahahahahaahahaahahahahha

[hollow cedar]

I mean he's been said to be 50/50 accurate on leaks so that's why I said kind of

[bleak jackal]

link?

[hollow cedar]

Of the leak or the confirmation for 2025

[formal karma]

Reliable leakers have been guessing silksong every month

[kindred pewter]

no it was me all along

[bleak jackal]

i predict that silksong will have hornet(john)silksong in the game

[rare haven]

believers...

[strange gulch]

no, nobody said they were a reliable leaker, and also the leaker themself said that they weren't confident that TC will hit the June deadline

[cerulean sable]

Probably just forget to update it all over the board

[bleak jackal]

fig trees, as in trees from real life, the team cherry devs breate air from trees, SILKSONG REFERENCE

[modest jetty]

I did see the direct segment. I was just hopig someone made a claim

It doesnt really matter. Ill play it when it comes. Its just fun to hope for the exact date

[bleak jackal]

i just like hollow knight

[cerulean sable]

still making a safe bet its 2nd half of 2025

gives good leeway

[strange gulch]

PS still says it's 2022

[modest jetty]

Mood. Word. Same

[formal karma]

july 7th is my guess

[cerulean sable]

if it was closer then imo it shouldve already shown a release date

[hollow cedar]

Still, not regarding the leaker, I still believe that it will launch June

[cerulean sable]

eh honestly all those copyright and shit will start moving once we go through the months

Steam and Switch was the priority it looks

[carmine island]

The exact date is somewhere between now and the end of 2025 now you just have to find it

[modest jetty]

Tomorrow

[bleak jackal]

it wouldnt be smart cuz every other game is releasing at the same time

especially deltarune will divert the attention

[hollow cedar]

Games like?

[bleak jackal]

deltarune, metroid, fucking mario kart

[hollow cedar]

Silksong will definitely get more attention than Deltarune

[bleak jackal]

i said divert

[carmine island]

Ngl I think saying Silksong tomorrow is lazy and lessens the deltarune community’s deltarune tomorrow so I think we should just say Silksong the day after tomorrow

[rough kestrel]

my theory on "why silksong was only showed for a few seconds"?

they just didn't have enough money for it

[rare haven]

silksong! just a week away

[gray leaf]

If only English had a proper word for the day after tomorrow

[formal karma]

in the world of e-shops it doesn't really matter about when you release it

[carmine island]

Just to keep it fresh and original

[delicate flare]

overmorrow

[gray leaf]

Literally the Dutch way to say it but literally translated, "overmorgen"

[rare haven]

silksong in 3 days, 7 hours and 30-ish minutes

[rough kestrel]

they were developing this game for so long, they probably have much less cash than the time they were doing full trailers on xbox etc

[bleak jackal]

they made like millions of dollars

[hollow cedar]

Very unlikely, hk made them multi millionaires, doubt they spent all their money on Silksong yet

[cerulean sable]

Buddy, they have merch and they have consistent numbers on steam, theyre drowning in cash

[rough kestrel]

or another theory

um
im dumb

[formal karma]

that hypothesis is years of info out of date

[bleak jackal]

it only took them 42k to make hollow knight

[green idol]

Arent we all

[formal karma]

which is fine, but....

[rough kestrel]

ALSO ALSO maybe they're preparing a final trailer with the release date

[hollow cedar]

They have more than 70 million on their laps, they can do whatever they like

[delicate flare]

but have you factored in all the community PR that they definitely did and had to pay for

[bleak jackal]

thats why there was none

[strange gulch]

or they went full FNF and spent all their money on "performance enhancing substances"

[rough kestrel]

maybe they didn't want to make two trailers

[hollow cedar]

Reasonable

[green idol]

That would be insane

[rough kestrel]

wait what

[carmine island]

Team cherry paid someone to rewrite the brains of fans and make them mindless Silksong hysterics

[bleak jackal]

deltarune will also surely make another trailer

[cerulean sable]

I havent checked the Switch store right now but apparently someone said a couple of months back that it still manages to creep into the top 20 from time to time for an 8 year old game

Steam numbers has also been very consistent for the past few years

[rough kestrel]

not sure cuz they dropped a release date that's pretty soon

like two months

[bleak jackal]

silksong is the most wishlisted now, it beat 2nd place

[cerulean sable]

honest opinion, i dont think TC wants to commit until they have a hardline date to release on, which is why the sizzle reel was probably more of a "heres a nudge to remind you all that its coming, soon"

[bleak jackal]

how many people work for tc again?

[rough kestrel]

that's what i'm sayin!

[rare haven]

like 4

[cerulean sable]

Silksong has been in top 1 on and off for the past few years, the only reason it gets knocked out is cuz people mass wishlist a game thats about to come out

[rare haven]

william, ari, leth and the programmer

[cerulean sable]

the fact that it has NO release date yet managed to float on the top 5 is telling

[bleak jackal]

david kazi

[rare haven]

yes david

[bleak jackal]

and the fourth beatle, Ringo

[strange gulch]

3 core, 5 if you count Leth and David, 7 (or more) if you include VAs

[cerulean sable]

David Kazi no longer works for them for a long time now but he still keeps in contact often

[rare haven]

david kazi is the michael collins of team cherry

[rough kestrel]

a human, a monster, and a prince of the dark

[rare haven]

oh really?

[cerulean sable]

and afaik Kazi is back to doing game dev stuff after presumably his work at that corpo gig he left off to after HK's release

no afaik, he IS back at working on his own game

Graig posted pictures of them still hanging out a couple while months ago

[bleak jackal]

david kazi got a new project actually called ember league

https://x.com/Ember_League

Ember League (@Ember_League) on X

Indie game studio founded by David Kazi (@davidkazidev, #HollowKnight, #ExoOne) and Alan Evans (@alanevans_emlge) w/ @ConnorGoudie & @TobyChugg

X

[strange gulch]

they have to seal the fountain of darkness that is the Silksong wait (I think, I forgor Deltarune lore)

[cold maple]

silksong is here

[cerulean sable]

Yeah thats the game

[bleak jackal]

no

[cloud yew]

their programmer is called jack

[rough kestrel]

abandoning hollow knight dev team to go work in corpo game dev is like leaving heaven in order to live in hell

[kindred pewter]

the better league

[cerulean sable]

hey tbf

it was a great opportunity and he wanted to in it

[bleak jackal]

im happy that he is following in his own footsteps

[cloud yew]

i feel bad when people hound david over silksong as if he doesn’t have his own stuff going on

[cerulean sable]

he didnt leave with bad blood at all, and its easy for us to say in hindsight that "oh shouldve stayed" blah blah but you also gotta remember the indie landscape is very volatile

[cinder island]

he went to the job security machine

[bleak jackal]

i cant believe john primacon could ever lie https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Eb-jF95i3Dc

[cerulean sable]

you can talk about corporate life as shit but the big bonus is you how much more stable and secure corporate jobs are

[cinder island]

like what u love is fine and all but the portion of indie games that go belly up is scary when its ur livelihood

[cerulean sable]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

aw this is what he looks like?
how am I supposed to unconditionally hate him if he doesn't look despicably ugly?

[cerulean sable]

my prof during my CS class was outright frank about it, if you go game dev youre gonna find a lot in this country, and if you do go game dev expect it to be you competing in the wringer

[dire wing]

when will leth log into his discord? I need another QnA

[cerulean sable]

if anything my past exp with corporate stuff at least gives you the safety of the company needing to adhere to laws

[cloud yew]

yeah i’m surprised at how quiet leth has been

[cerulean sable]

because government labor agencies ARE A LOT MORE stringent with these mid-large sized corporate companies

[coarse leaf]

merhaps I need to paint Leth a portrait

[strange gulch]

I remember like Pirate Software saying something about indie game dev shouldn't be your main job or something like that

[cloud yew]

i guess if things are wrapping up he’s probably busy

[cinder island]

leth at da hat shop for new hat

[cerulean sable]

yeah, thats also my profs advice

[torn echo]

how much do you guys think silksong is gonna cost?

[bleak jackal]

any price is good

[coarse leaf]

same as the old one + 5 dollars to prove it's better

[torn echo]

agreed,

[strange gulch]

600 doubloons

[green idol]

I mean prolly not too much

[dire wing]

25 or 30 USD

[cerulean sable]

we had a choice between core computing, data science and game dev, and he flat out said "choose core for the fundamentals, THEN you can branch out into game dev, just know its harder to go from game dev to corporate if you choose the last"

[bleak jackal]

you guys think silksong will be as good or be better than hk?

[torn echo]

i only ask since yk, prices go wild now adays

[cinder island]

no universe its not a better casual experience

[green idol]

Team cherry doesent seem like theyre in it for the money so just probably a stamdard indie game price

[torn echo]

it's gonna be worse.... (JOKE.)

[coarse leaf]

it has my cousin as a boss, it's automatically better

[dire wing]

silksong has slopes so its already better

[cloud yew]

i think it’ll be better but honestly i’ll be hyped even if it’s just as good

[torn echo]

is he the like fast travel boss?

[bleak jackal]

seth

[cerulean sable]

15-25

they already said the reason they kept it at that low price is that

1. accessibility is important because 15$ is already a lot in countries outside the US
2. they said they wanted to establish a fanbase rather than try to go for short term profit given theyre a small team anyway
3. biggest thing, Leth acknowledged in an interview how popular that pricing format is that he said that TC is very pressured/inclined to do something similar given how popular that choice was

[coarse leaf]

the Big Guy™

[strange gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-flint-and-steel-a-minecraft-movie-minecraft-movie-minecraft-gif-3077997196724310231

[cerulean sable]

honestly going for that similar pricing would be an insane power move, and bigger part is how much range you have with accessibility

[bleak jackal]

but i still think that silksong wont give the same feeling that hk gave to me, the mystery, the atmosphere...

[torn echo]

sick, never knew (it's hard to get information for some reason) thank you for informing me :D

[green idol]

Objectivly itll probably be better since hollow knight was team cherrys first major game so theyve probably improved a lot but atleast for me hollow knight will always be my favorite game no matter what

[strange gulch]

if they announce the price being 90 USD then 💔 🥀

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/food-water-atmosphere-spongebob-meme-gif-13323955

[cerulean sable]

its like how pirating to some extent actually increases your revenue in the long run, while yes you dont get money out of it, what you do get is a new fan who will MOST LIKELY increase the engagement of your game, which in return increase the chance of getting new fan that may buy your game

[mortal dagger]

silkdong

[serene otter]

1 dollar

15 Dollars

30 Dollars

[cloud yew]

it’ll probably be less eerie and sad but i think the contrast with hollow knight will be really cool

[cerulean sable]

for reference i think prior to release Leth suggested they go for 25$ but TC had the final say and they decided that 15$ is a better price for accessibility

[cloud yew]

i don’t know if i’d want another game with the same atmosphere as hollow knight when hollow knight is right there

[green idol]

At the very most I think it could be 30 bucks but anything above that seems uncharasteristic from team cherry

[dire wing]

i think it will if you are somehow able to avoid all sorts of spoilers

[bleak jackal]

i dont mean the gloomy atmosphere, i mean how much impact the atmosphere gave to me

[cloud yew]

this would never happen in a million years

[bleak jackal]

i would silksong comes day 1 to gamepass

[strange gulch]

yeah, I'd expect like an implosion in the Silksong fandom if they priced it that

[cloud yew]

oh well you never know then, i think they’re being careful not to reveal too much so there could be some really unexpected things that you find very impactful

they’re very good at that after all

[cerulean sable]

As for Leth's comm, iirc he was kinda burnt out with people taking his words out of context and he has had trouble recently engaging because misinformation, so hes incredibly careful with how he talks with the community (sometimes opting not to)

That being said, hes also tied to TC, in the end they have the final say, so if they said "lets not talk about this or that" well Leth cant really do anything about it, thats honestly most of the recent action on his side was retweeting this, or disconfirming that from time to time since the precedent is set already anyway

[coarse leaf]

"You wouldn't download a car, would you?"
"It'll get someone else to buy one, so why not!"

[bleak jackal]

even the trailers differ, silksong shows gameplay, hk shows lore, atmosphere, over-arching atmosphere, story and plot

[cloud yew]

honestly i have faith that silksong will be just as good because i think the things that make hollow knight good are all very deliberate and not just a total fluke

[green idol]

I mean back when hollow knight came out they should have priced it more higher because they were on the brink of bankrupsy but they didnt because they wanted it to be more accessable and that alone should be enough to erase any worries of high pricing

[bleak jackal]

their budget also helped

[green idol]

Team cherry just wants to make a good game that everyone can enjoy

[serene otter]

tbh i wouldnt even mind if they just priced it 5 dollars higher
they need to be fed as well smh

[coarse leaf]

"What ever you do, don't tell the community that Zote will be brought to Pharloom. "

[green idol]

Dont get me wrong I would willingly give all my money to team cherry. I just dont think they would price it that high

And when I say that high I mean like above 30 bucks

[cinder island]

the way i see it if u avg the price / hour across hk and ssong it could be 50 bucks and im still well in the green

im still under 1c/h i think

[green idol]

Yeah its very reasonable for it to have a high price but I dont think team cherry cares much about money as long as they can keep development going

[cloud yew]

honestly they might be doing it this way because they just don’t want to reveal the story and they don’t really have to because people will have faith that the people who made hollow knight can tell a good story a second time

[bleak jackal]

fair enough

[tame monolith]

i'

[cloud yew]

the first time around no one knew who they were or what they could do so it makes more sense to show more of what you’re offering in a trailer

[tame monolith]

i'm still on a high from us believers being vindicated and nintendo direct coming through

[cloud yew]

i still think the cake was a coincidence but i’ll admit it is a very funny turn of events

[bleak jackal]

not

no one just decides to set their pfp as a cake

[cerulean sable]

i stil think 20$ should be the average for SS

[hushed glen]

30

at least

[cerulean sable]

therse like this certain line where you can still get selling power but also reach a broad enough audience

given their recent statement i wouldnt be surprised if it was 15 to 25$

[torn echo]

indie games go up to like 40 maximum i've seen

[coarse leaf]

the equilibrium

[cerulean sable]

is that the actual term

[hushed glen]

well the hardcore fandom wich was built for 6 years are going to buy it anyway so prob more then 30

[coarse leaf]

where supply and demand meet, basic economics

[green idol]

Ok but team cherry doesent care about "hardcore fandom" they want as many people to enjoy it as possible

[cerulean sable]

thats a big factor too

again they were adviced they could push for 25$

but in the end they outright wanted it to be 15$ because 15$ is expensive for non US countries

accessibility is powerful, and thats what also really gave HK the continued relevance it has till today

[green idol]

Im fine with any pricing but its just team cherrys style to underprice their games

[coarse leaf]

global popularity strat

[green idol]

Yeah

[cerulean sable]

your average joe whos not a fan of platformers is more willing to try it at that low price

hes not gonna lose that much anyway

[wooden oriole]

They don't care about us silkbros

[cerulean sable]

BUT if it manages to stick to him, now suddenly you have this guy whos going "i dont even like metroidvanias but Hollow Knight-"

[green idol]

Well ok more correctly they care about everyone

[cerulean sable]

and suddenly you managed to snag in a couple more fans in the process

as weird of an example it is

i think the Costco example is pretty much this

the hotdog i mean, apparently its going on sale for a lost but the point is youre more inclined to get customers to actually try the place out cuz "i wanna nab that cheap hotdog" and they end up buying other stuff which is where the profit comes from, commodity product is the term i think?

not an expert in economics

[green idol]

Egonimgs👍

[cerulean sable]

also another thing is peoples expectation will get higher on the price as well

Avowed kinda got a lot of "its good! but, it shouldve been 40$ instead" kinda statements

[coarse leaf]

avowed gets the "this mf so fuckin' desperate" statement from me

look at this shi; they're advertising on my menu

[green idol]

I mean I think peoples expectations are already through the roof. Nothing about the price will change that imo

[cerulean sable]

again if its 40$ id still probably buy Silksong, but its easy for me to say cuz i have a job and i afford throwing that bit of extra, but lets be honest the majority of HK fans ARE NOT adults in that position to justify shelling more than 20$ on their video games especially if they dont live in the US

[rocky flicker]

what if its 60 us

[cerulean sable]

its already high yeah, but having a higher pricing will still push it a bit higher

i might not tbh

[green idol]

Not very likely at all

[rocky flicker]

what if its 80 us

[cerulean sable]

like if you look at the economy right now people are already fighting against 70+ USD games

[coarse leaf]

greedy ass nintendo

needs to be more like Gabe Newell

[cerulean sable]

also everytime i see someone shill HK, more often than not i see "Man i only bought it for 7 dollars and its so good so i bought all my friends a copy" kinda situation

[green idol]

I still think that anything above 30 bucks is not very likely at all

[rocky flicker]

how much was hollow knight

[cerulean sable]

people under estimate that your more hardcore fanbase will rake in a lot of cash through merchandise as well 🥴

[green idol]

15

[rocky flicker]

I think it was 25 au for me but it was a very long time ago

ok yeah that checks out

[cerulean sable]

i think it was mentioned in gacha game reports that almost 70%+ of their revenue comes from whales

[rocky flicker]

gacha games are a very different animal

[green idol]

I mean its gacha

[cerulean sable]

yeah yeah

[coarse leaf]

what percentage of the playerbase made up the whales though?

[rocky flicker]

people spend 6 figures on gacha games

[cerulean sable]

but i heard a similar anecdote on how much merchandising for any game can bring

[cerulean sable]

i think 10% actually lmao

[green idol]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

damn daniel

[lament coyote]

disconfirming what exactly?

[coarse leaf]

that silksong came out yesterday

[young saffron]

I can't tell you how many of my friends I've convinced to buy hk cause it's 2-7 dollars in my region

[young saffron]

Each one turned into a die hard fan

[green idol]

I mean with how anticipated silksong is even if it was only 15 bucks I think team cherry would be fine money-wise

Maybe

[rocky flicker]

but its gonna be worth more

silksong had a budget

[cerulean sable]

The recent ones regarding the release date or when he reached out on Fireborn to tell them about a misinfo that was spreading

[rocky flicker]

and 7 years

[lament coyote]

okay this comma made me read this thing the wrong way

[lament coyote]

that doesn't include 2025 thing right? i didn't miss anything important did i

[cerulean sable]

again at the end of the day if they go for 30$ id still buy it, just saying TC is a position to get so much good will in an instant by pricing at the same price and its not like theyre in a problematic financial situation from the looks of it lmao

[coarse leaf]

"Dear Fireborn, please inform our community that the cake was in fact a lie."

[cerulean sable]

nope these were all pre 2024

[lament coyote]

oh you mean the older stuff

[rocky flicker]

cake incident

[lament coyote]

even if a coincidence it turned out to be a good coincidence at the end so...

[rocky flicker]

yeah that entire situation is made so much funnier by the fact we actually got news on that date

[lament coyote]

just 9 more (that's a lot) months and hopefully no more sanctions because otherwise steam can go eat shit

[obsidian owl]

get rid of windows...

[rocky flicker]

was it william giving us super subtle hints that couldnt be caught by nda? probably not
was it a complete coincidence? yeah probably

[rocky flicker]

I've never met anyone who uses linux that didnt tell me they used linux

[coarse leaf]

NDA:

• No
• Dogs
• Allowed

[rocky flicker]

no dandruff aftershave

[lament coyote]

i don't think william cares enough to give hints SO subtle lmao

and there's no need for that anymore anyways

[rocky flicker]

hes canonically insane so who knows

[cerulean sable]

apparently someone here said William has been blocking people begging for HK stuff

whichi s based ngl

[fiery shore]

I mean Silksong is probably the greateast social experiment of the gaming

[brittle arch]

half life 3 ?

[cerulean sable]

his shitposting is too good to be buried by "William is TC going to provide any updates soon? I think its part of TC responsibility to at least-"

[rocky flicker]

that one straight doesnt exist is the thing

[cerulean sable]

it actually does th

[rocky flicker]

as he should

[rocky flicker]

ehhhhhhhh

[cerulean sable]

tons of leaked HLX files are being pushed into the Source 2 build apparently

[rocky flicker]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cerulean sable]

hey, i believe its a thing

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rocky flicker]

im glad im part of the sane silksong community and not the half life community

[brittle arch]

it's just no one got the balls to make daily half life 3 news

oh wiat

[rocky flicker]

i dont know anything about half life

[brittle arch]

same

[rocky flicker]

what are lost coast and episode one and episode two

[brittle arch]

i do play half life 1 when I was young tho

[cerulean sable]

im sticked with the fanbase the only one i havent played is Alyx (for obvious reasons)

[rocky flicker]

half life a legs

what the actual hell is nintendo switch online

god it still pisses me off and I dont even have my switch anymore

[severe crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbpSYZ8KAHc

Someone made a mod with silksong lol

[digital tiger]

guys hear me out what if silksong meets silk sonic like hear me out they both have intro and end and 777 is actually a reference to the amount of silksong news videos divided by two plus seven. to add there is a song called "after last night" so pharloom will have day n nite, but wait? is this a reference to kid cudi's man on the moon?? team cherry are geniuses for ts. no arguement. periodt.

[wooden oriole]

Nani?

[formal karma]

meh

[cedar trench]

Haha that's fucking awesome you should tell them you're like kanye west and leave them to figure out what you mean by that

[tiny pine]

[rocky flicker]

anyone got any of those fun little playable fan made silksongs

[rocky flicker]

i dont have any on hand and id like one

[crude oriole]

So, it would seem hornets animations have changed a bit

[rocky flicker]

20

[hollow cedar]

Silksong is coming out in 20 hours!

[rocky flicker]

we are such fools silksong came out 2 millenia ago

[crude oriole]

20 years

[rocky flicker]

we must rediscover it

[hollow cedar]

Man I'm so glad Team Cherry delayed the game, it looks so much more vibrant and detailed than the demo

[crude oriole]

Yeah but it’s interesting because now hornet is more red and also moves different

[crude oriole]

True

[hollow cedar]

Honestly I can wait another 2 years if it gets even better

[rocky flicker]

they also removed the phallic stalagtites

[crude oriole]

Oh yea

[rocky flicker]

which i am a big fan of

[hollow cedar]

The what?

[rocky flicker]

im a fan of their removal not the stalagtites themselves

[rocky flicker]

bottom middle of the first screenshot

[hollow cedar]

Not sure I'm seeing it

[rocky flicker]

im glad team cherry shared my vision and scrapped them

[crude oriole]

Right under hornet there are those thin little thingies

[hollow cedar]

Oooh

[digital mural]

Silksong!

[rocky flicker]

hooray!

[crude oriole]

Anyways, I just thought the comparison of images was pretty dope, since I’ve mostly just seen people talking about the other two clips.

[jolly crow]

SKONG

[hollow cedar]

Do y'all think that the HUD being smaller is a good change?

[crude oriole]

Yeah, now we can see more beautiful artwork

Plus, it would get a bit crowded with all of the different tools and crests

So smaller HUD is good, I think

[hollow cedar]

We should somehow get steam a cherry to add a way to add a feature to remove the HUD completely, it can make screenshots look better

I didn't make any HK screenshot as my wallpaper just because the HUD is there

[wild plinth]

Good day, folks

[wild plinth]

Oh you mean like a photo mode?

[lament lotus]

hello

[hollow cedar]

I mean, yeah but not exactly, just a way to turn the HUD on and off

[uncut citrus]

F1 fr fr

[full quartz]

On DSN it had been 470 days without any Yes news and that one was for the file extraction... before that the last proper Yes news was silksong delay on day 845 ... so thats a total of 693 days without news. We really were stuck in a hot car with no AC

[wild plinth]

My car had an AC
The AC being slay the spire

Cant wait for sts 2

[lament lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/fresh-prince-we-will-smith-theres-no-we-shocked-gif-17214689

[full quartz]

My Ac was Ultrakill lmao

[cloud yew]

i keep seeing people say that the big robot boss looks worse in the new screenshots and i don’t get it

[lament lotus]

what is the greatest DSSN day

[cloud yew]

it looks so much clearer and more readable now

[brittle arch]

last yes I think

araraura losted it

[wild plinth]

The xbox showcase one was better imo

[brittle arch]

trailer wise then yes

[lament lotus]

whats his name

[full quartz]

I agree, its kinda subtle but the lighting on it is better too imo

[brittle arch]

but about the content in dssn then the last yes was most entertain

[wild plinth]

Yea, when it comes to the reaction the last yes video was way better then

[verbal sphinx]

oh my god silksong is actually real

[dusk quail]

Imagine not owning silksong

[leaden kernel]

Yep

[glossy depot]

Silksong is in fact real

[cloud yew]

on what planet does it look worse now

[full quartz]

Its a real game we will actually be able to play this year (allegedly) mind-blowing

[severe crane]

It only showed 5 seconds clip

till then the chat blew uop

[cloud yew]

no idea yet

[brittle arch]

maybe because the right one was playing on switch 2

[wild plinth]

Which one is the new one

[full quartz]

I think its because there is a lot less particle and red lighting that people think that

[marsh ibex]

If you’re looking at it through the lens of artwork and not a game to be played I suppose you could view it as such

[frozen sandal]

mfs are still gonna complain abt sk even after the release🥀🥀🥀

[marsh ibex]

The left is much harder to read gameplay wise

[cloud yew]

the thing is i’m seeing people say it looks boring and empty now because of the lack of flying rocks and embers but it’s a different frame lol

[brittle arch]

boss feature

[cloud yew]

the new one is earlier in the attack

[brittle arch]

guys the reason it look worse because it's from switch 2 with 15 fps

[cloud yew]

if you take that into account the biggest difference is that there’s higher contrast and less haze in the new one which is so much better for readability

[frozen sandal]

this boss might be one of the hardest ones

[pure wave]

i feel like its a phase 1 and 2

gets more lava later on

[cloud yew]

it looks like it’s pretty early in the game judging by the area

it looks like a deep docks boss to me

[brittle arch]

true and hornet only have 6 mask

[cerulean sable]

neat, they added more mss on the latest build

[frozen sandal]

sometimes the game just throw the hardest bosses at the beginning🙏

[brittle arch]

i fought the krab thingy at dirtmouth before get dash

[cloud yew]

i mean i guess deep docks could be later in the game than we think bc idk if the demo is actually a very good indication

[frozen sandal]

Murai in ninja gaiden🥀🥀🥀

[cloud yew]

it’s been a long time

[frozen sandal]

mawlek?

[brittle arch]

yeah

first play

[cloud yew]

i’m assuming it’s low down bc well….. lava…. but maybe you have to go up and back down to access it i don’t know

[frozen sandal]

mawlek is an optional boss and it is supposed to be found after getting the mantis claw since normally you cannot reach Mawlek without it

[cloud yew]

it does look like an intimidating boss so it would be odd if it was easy

[brittle arch]

i can somehow

i did a pogo or sth

[lament lotus]

joker countdown 2

[pure wave]

yhorm moment

[frozen sandal]

yeah that's how you reach him without claw

[brittle arch]

that thing slammed me hard

[frozen sandal]

i found mawlek after beating the hollow knight in my first run

[brittle arch]

so i design to go other way

[cloud yew]

i completely missed mawlek on my first run

[brittle arch]

it's like fighting the horse dude at the beginning of elden ring

[frozen sandal]

anyways you gonna play SK also for the lore?

[frozen sandal]

or going to New Londo after reaching the shrine

[brittle arch]

ofcourse, lore is like 50% the reason i play hk

banger

[cloud yew]

i say this constantly but i’m soooo excited for the lore videos

[glossy depot]

SS to hopefully find out about delicate flower lore

[brittle arch]

i wonder if anyone can beat silksong 100% without wiki

[brittle arch]

fr ?

[frozen sandal]

the catacombs right after reaching the shrine is the worst thing you can do in every game after starting it

[brittle arch]

i don't get it

[frozen sandal]

dark souls

[brittle arch]

i have only play elden ring

[frozen sandal]

hoping to get lore about Zote or Tiso in silksong

[glossy depot]

I don't know, but I'm hoping SS has it

[silk zodiac]

can't believe God himself is in chat with us

[glossy depot]

I actually wonder if Tiso put enough lore in his backer notes for Silksong

[pure wave]

oh yea, tiso was backer content

[brittle arch]

I wonder if there gonna be 3 mask damage in SS

since Hornet can heal good

[frozen sandal]

i wonder if there will be a boss harder than abs rad

[brittle arch]

isn't 12th zote harder ?

[cloud yew]

if there isn’t then the modding community will fix that lol

[cerulean sable]

honestly i feel like the end game of SS is going to be harder than HK

but

[frozen sandal]

not counting it totally optional and if u did radiant gpz it is as easy as the third fight

[frosty light]

how many times have they redrawn the entire map

[cerulean sable]

main game is going to be in a similar difficulty spike

[cloud yew]

i hope it is more difficult than hollow knight but we’ll see

[shell salmon]

More grubs

[elfin sparrow]

and also u seem to have a lot more mobility in this game

tho on that regard im kinda worried the combat wont be as smooth as hollow knight if they give us too much mobility

[glossy depot]

trust in TC

[marsh ibex]

currently there’s no reason for delicate flower lore to be in that game

[frosty light]

honestly whatever hornet's air stalling ability against seth might be really useful

[glossy depot]

don't dash my dreams :p

[cloud yew]

looks pretty good so far at least to me

[marsh ibex]

I’m not a master or anything but ze’mer or her ilk hasn’t been shown in Pharloom in any capacity and also godhome sucks

[frosty light]

more air control compared to shade soul and shriek would make you invincible in hk 🙏🙏

[cloud yew]

it’ll be refreshing to have more acrobatic movement i think

more opportunities to have fun with it

[indigo mason]

My crazy hyper specific hope for silksong is to maybe get a side story with hegemol... Ofc we wouldn't know it's hege at first because hes not got the armour but it might be revealed at the end of the quest or smth
I know it probably won't happen but I wanna believe because hege is the great knight with the least amount of lore

[frosty light]

but maybe itd suck a little loss if it coopted the weaver storyline altpgether by the end and its just hornet and her friends getting killed off by 4 hours in the fight agains tthe shade lord and we still dont learn what the flower actually does

[torn echo]

i gotta ask, if it was confirmed that silksong was coming out this year, why havent the steam paged updated "2025"? (just asking)

[cloud yew]

it probably will soon

[glossy depot]

ultimately though none of us knows what's actually in SS so anything is possible.

[brittle arch]

I don't think delicate flower is that interesting, i think the hollow knight somehow survive will be much more interesting

[frosty light]

we already met sly

[frosty light]

plausible deniability

[primal horizon]

I for sure wouldn’t! The people already know it’s coming out in 2025, what’s the point

[torn echo]

i can't read big works (my brain stuttered like 8 times trying to say that sentence)

[frosty light]

well ok it isnt but thats also because we dont know jackshit about it

[marsh ibex]

yeah it’s possible that the game is encoded in such a way that when you play it it puts you into a coma

[torn echo]

fair

[primal horizon]

You sound like you know what happens. Wtf.

[frosty light]

try this plaus ible den iab i l ity

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-gif-21010263

[indigo mason]

I said nothing about sly tho??? Unless you think that sly is hegemol which I personally don't believe

[glossy depot]

[primal horizon]

WHAT IS THIS GIF LMAO

[brittle arch]

you're not solo leveling

[frosty light]

no leaks pls

[cloud yew]

it’s a somewhat popular theory but i also don’t believe that

[wanton eagle]

[frosty light]

its an old... "theory"? i think it was always just a troll who first pretended that was the case, but it stuck around in the hearts of the people

[cerulean sable]

i got a spell in my last stag
20 shade souls no abyss shrieks

[marsh ibex]

I dunno why that’d be the case pharloom is a separate kingdom

[torn echo]

after 3 tries i have succeeded, thank you :D (the fuck does that mean)

[primal horizon]

Is this a riddle. Can you give a hint pls

[frosty light]

yeah and who wouldnt run away to as far away as possible from the shithole that is hallownest

[dusk quail]

I doubt it'll happen because the maggot explicitly said he killed him iirc

[marsh ibex]

idk he’s probably dead

[frosty light]

besides like almost all the characters in hk i mean

[marsh ibex]

I hope the maggot ate hegemol

[frosty light]

well that could prove to be an issue, yes

[cloud yew]

i think hegemol is dead

[glossy depot]

It's still a hollow knight sequel. It's not presumpuous to assume there will be at least some references/lore for existing characters still.
It's not like we don't have foreigners in HK or characters' lore stops existing the instant you step out of hallownest

[primal horizon]

I hope the maggots didn’t eat hegemol because I would be quiteeeee sad

[dusk quail]

Why does ss discussion constantly turn into lore discussion lol

[marsh ibex]

It is fairly presumptuous because TC wants the game to stand on its own and not have the first game be necessary to get the second

[frosty light]

im... mostly joking but im saying that the less team cherry commits to the 2025 window the less backlash theyll get when they ditch it

[primal horizon]

?tag info offtopic

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[cloud yew]

in this case it would mean that if the game doesn’t come out in 2025 they could say “well it didn’t say 2025 on steam” but it did say it in the direct so 🤷

[marsh ibex]

Randomly inserting an irrelevant character from the first game just to answer the question of what happened to him goes against their design whatever

[cerulean sable]

IM LIKE YEAH LACE'S FINE
WONDER THAT TOOL BE MINE
SHE SPRINT PAST, I PRESS DDIVE
TO SEE THAT SONG ONE MORE TIME

[dusk quail]

I meant why is it lore specifically lol

[frosty light]

team cherry!!!!!!
where the FUCK is the iselda content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[torn echo]

ohhhhhhh, thank you

[marsh ibex]

because lore applies to all of us

[frosty light]

(shes not in, bros)

[glossy depot]

You don't need to completely axe existing characters save hornet to do that.
Plenty of series sequels are good first games while still having lore bits about existing characters, the two are not exclusive.

[marsh ibex]

that’s not axing characters lol

it’s answering stuff that doesn’t have any bearing on the second

[primal horizon]

is it the tool where you play music

[glossy depot]

You know what I mean

[marsh ibex]

and considering he might be dead he’s already axed

[glossy depot]

Including lore about a great knight won't make the game not stand alone

[marsh ibex]

why would there be lore about a great knight from another kingdom in pharloom

[glossy depot]

News travel

[marsh ibex]

fake news

[glossy depot]

lol

[cloud yew]

it would be nice to have some little bits and pieces of information that are good world building for first time players and a nod to hollow knight for hollow knight players but i doubt it would be anything regarding the great knights

[brittle arch]

last time it got really political

[quartz lynx]

I doubt news travels across a wasteland that mind wipes everyone who goes through it

[frosty light]

if they really felt like telling a story about hegemol they probably would just come up with anything to do it

[marsh ibex]

That’s also not the case

[brittle arch]

great knight ? who ?

[marsh ibex]

Only if you had sapience granted by the pale king’s beacon does that apply to you

[frosty light]

seemed that way with their non commital "yeah we'll most likely expand on who the snail shamans are"

[primal horizon]

My Canadian president raised prices of companies. What did your Canadian president do?

[marsh ibex]

and they never did

instead giving us midhome

[brittle arch]

my president is vietnamese

[torn echo]

In silksong, I will commit a genocide on the ant population
Bird.

[primal horizon]

You are disregarding the question.

[cloud yew]

i will befriend the ants

i love ants i’m so excited to see them

[torn echo]

you will be a victim of my crusade

[brittle arch]

hyping for silksong i guess ?

[primal horizon]

I see

[frosty light]

like i do think its fairly up in the air for them when deciding what to or not explore, or at least it used to be back when silksong hadnt had like 7 years of dev and all

[cloud yew]

fuck

[quartz lynx]

Sapience which seems to only be granted by higher beings, therefore anybody passing the lands beyond would have sapience gotten from a higher being, ergo they'd get mind wiped no?

[frosty light]

🥺

[brittle arch]

i really like ants, well if there's cockroach i'll explode them with grenade

[marsh ibex]

no that’s a wyrm thing

and not every bug is made by a higher being

[torn echo]

you might be added to my list

[brittle arch]

wgat list

[dusk quail]

I know

[marsh ibex]

wyrms give sapience to non sapient bugs which means they have to stay in the beacon’s aoe to be sapient

[primal horizon]

Hollow knight is a little bit like bioshock now that I think about it

[frosty light]

only like unn and... radiance (plot hole (maybe))

[marsh ibex]

if you’re sapient by birth that’s not a thing

I should shave my head bald

[indigo mason]

He didn't say he killed hegemol explicitly. He just says that hegemol was sleeping in the armour and he took it, so whether the maggot simply stole the armour or actually killed him we don't know

So imma cope and say that he's STILL ALIVE because he's my favourite great knight 😔😔

[primal horizon]

Wwhy

[torn echo]

i just realised, when the mods come out for this game (like skins) yk how like cool their gonna look? or like how like awesome all the detail will be put into them for the 10 million different tools

[frosty light]

do you think he couldve moved the funny wind dome at will if he wasnt like fucking dead and all

[quartz lynx]

Have we seen a single bug born sapient other than basically gods

[torn echo]

i hope we see a second wyrm in silksong :D

[marsh ibex]

intrusive tblught

[marsh ibex]

yes

[quartz lynx]

Who

[glossy depot]

You have people in Hollownest itself that came from other lands. Ze'mer is a pretty big example.

[strange gulch]

I too have those intrusive tblught

[frosty light]

would it have passively followed his general position had he left it entirely or could he have gone on a vacation while things kept on running

[cloud yew]

exactly

[marsh ibex]

mantises
deepnest’s upper cast
mushrooms
hornet
ze’mer
arguably the bees

[south crown]

with a pair of tweezers it should take you 12 seconds

[marsh ibex]

you’re not my opp lil sis

sit down

[wild plinth]

Wasnt there a bug in like a comic too? Tusk or something?

[south crown]

i am
opposition

[marsh ibex]

boon

but he’s a funky lil guy

[wild plinth]

Who the fuck was tusk again

[frosty light]

girl's so big they had to white lady her for the mod 💔💔

[cloud yew]

tuck

[wild plinth]

Am i crazy

[marsh ibex]

Tuk was the rancid egg crack fiend

[cloud yew]

or tuk yeah

[wild plinth]

Ah

[marsh ibex]

They look similar

[strange gulch]

will the storm from Fortnite be in Silksong?

[frosty light]

#RELEASETHEBIGZE'MERCUT

[frosty light]

oh, shes great, dont u know it

great value. yum yum

i should go to sleep

[wild plinth]

I just forgot who that name belonged too

[quartz lynx]

Fair enough

[south crown]

perhaps

[frosty light]

yeah its tuk btw

[marsh ibex]

Stay awake

[south crown]

joker stop encouraging unhealthy behavior

[glossy depot]

All the foreigner backer characters

[marsh ibex]

don’t gamble

[south crown]

do gamble though that is an exception

[cerulean sable]

hop on gunner heat pc

[south crown]

gambling is the only activity that can make you a millionaire in 12 minutes 🔥

[frosty light]

she has a mystery friend shes looking for but we never meet them. maybe boon since all bugs of the same species know each other.
then theres also the nailsmiths other mysterious customer too, plus esmy and shit. jinn and jijis masters

all kinds of mystery fuckers

who knows 'em

[opaque sigil]

being born:

[south crown]

tuk and boon are the same species?

[frosty light]

team cherry might. or not

[idle scaffold]

To be fair even if the game is a sequel or prequel timeline wise we can still get info about stuff like the Great Knights by getting flashbacks to Hornet's past. If the game is a sequel then it's easy but if SS is a prequel we would only get a limited amount of info depending on when exactly Hornet went to Pharloom before the events of HK.

[frosty light]

shit arent they

[south crown]

they might look similar but most bug species do

[marsh ibex]

Hornet wouldn’t have knowledge of the Great Knights

[south crown]

i dont think so

[spare fractal]

if you think about it being born in a rich family or being born broke is basically gambling

[frosty light]

oh yeah also someone put that chain around the godseekers cocoon we dont know who still and we never will presumably

[idle scaffold]

I just used it as an example since that was people were talking about

[formal marsh]

if we can assume tuk and boon are the same species based off looks, zote is a vessel

[marsh ibex]

example these hands

[south crown]

you gamble everyday
you gamble your health
you gamble your happiness
you gamble your time
everything can be considered gambling 🔥

[frosty light]

tuk's friend + nailsmith's weapon buddy + godseeker locker are the 3 mysterious person related incidents around that general area. pretty packed space for that trope

[marsh ibex]

you gamble not being currently banned

[south crown]

im kinda convinced she did that on her own

[marsh ibex]

she said it was forced upon her

[south crown]

the odds are in my favor 😼

[south crown]

might be a metaphor

[frosty light]

the intrusive thoughts are now telepathic holy shit

[marsh ibex]

ok dweeb

[south crown]

ok bweed

[formal marsh]

that was um. uhh um.

[opaque sigil]

why don't you look at an image of the cocoon and think again about whether it would really be possible for her to do that
from inside

[marsh ibex]

goku

[south crown]

shandow go sleep

[formal marsh]

yeah true

[frosty light]

[wild plinth]

But how would you be able to chain yourself when youre inside

[south crown]

mustve been the wind..

[frosty light]

its fine its fiine. ok well i might

[south crown]

well id imagine it kind of happened like how the chains around the knight appeared
magic

i dont know much hk lore so go easy on me 💔

[marsh ibex]

Ah you mean in the black egg

[idle scaffold]

If TC brought back the idea from that cut "daughter of 3 queens" would there be something in current lore that would contradict it? Cuz who knows. TC could bring back cut content and lore ideas in SS.

[marsh ibex]

The magically made black egg

As opposed to the chains that require a simple key to open

[slim jetty]

any ss news guys?

[marsh ibex]

Hive no longer in Deepnest
Hive closed itself off

[frosty light]

checking again, i think they are

[marsh ibex]

WL doesn’t talk about raising Jornet in any capacity

Jornet

[south crown]

well maybe the magic that bounded the godseeker didnt want its opener to go through too much trouble

[coarse leaf]

Jornet

[idle scaffold]

Hive not in deepnest doesn't really matter but yeah the hive closing itself oof would debunk it anyways. Thanks

[frosty light]

except the color scheme of boons face is inverted and tuk... wears pants? or something

[marsh ibex]

kinda does
it made more sense when they weren’t on opposite sides of the kingdom

[south crown]

what

[cedar trench]

hello guys i just ate some steamed mussels with lemon

i love living relatively close to the sea

[heavy mason]

Sounds good

[cedar trench]

you bet

[frosty light]

ok quick question if i send 3 images together does discord format them in a way that minimizes space on-screen

[south crown]

yeah it cuts up one big rectangle into three parts

[coarse leaf]

Yes

On mobile atleast

[frosty light]

oksick

[formal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/skin-cat-gif-5826174027498830958

[idle scaffold]

Well assuming the daughter of 3 queens is true for back when the old map was canon then isn't the white palace anyway on the other side of the map? And raised by the white lady would make more sense if Hornet was raised around the white palace and not around Deepnest. Still the Hive closing itself does lead to it not being possible in the current lore unless TC retcon sme things which I don't think will happen.

[frosty light]

ig boon's eyes just change color

[formal marsh]

the white lady lived in the white palace too and there was a tramway connecting the palace to the hidden village

[south crown]

i think the mouth is the most notable feature, the shape of the antennas and eyes and other parts can be seen in a few other hk bugs iirc

[formal marsh]

there are 0 similarities between boon and tuk now that i look at them side by side

[south crown]

the mouth 💔

[formal marsh]

how is the mouth remotely similar

[south crown]

plinko distribution + lines

[formal marsh]

what lines

[south crown]

the vertical lines

[formal marsh]

boon doesnt have them

[frosty light]

but look at this shit. what is this design. how did she even put that there from the inside. at least the sarcophagus is an actual cocoon that transformed her physically so it likely grew around her but this shit is just regular ass metal you can open this with like random keys with how ass the lock is. frankly whoever used this wasnt doing a good job one way or another

[idle scaffold]

The mouths are nearly identical....

[south crown]

lune what 😭

lune is gaslighting me theres no way

[formal marsh]

what lines???

im so confused

[south crown]

thats the eyes

[glossy depot]

Are you seeing the "smile" as the mouth? That's the pupils for the eyes

[wild plinth]

Bruh

[primal horizon]

wrong place

[south crown]

lune we’re talking about the mouth..

[formal marsh]

THE EYES???????????

[frosty light]

yknow what girls just a goddamn magician thats gonna be her like hall of gods divinity trait once she grows big enough

[formal marsh]

i cant believe thats not his mouth

[primal horizon]

LMAO

[glossy depot]

It's an optical illusion though, when I first saw it I thought it was a face half-covered by the hood and smiling at the reader too

[formal marsh]

in one image he has a wide smile and the other you can only see one tooth like those goofy cartoon characters

[formal marsh]

ITS NOT??

[frosty light]

except she actually never will since her waking self is like ambiguously murdered in both her endings? probably?

[idle scaffold]

I see where you are coming from tbh

[formal marsh]

THIS IS THE MOUTH????? NOT THE INSIDE OF HTE FABRIC HAVING A DIFFERENT PATTERN????

[primal horizon]

I can’t see

[formal marsh]

ari did not cook im sorry

[frosty light]

yeah and its got like seals on all of them pk and the weavers went nuts on that shit

[glossy depot]

[frosty light]

kind of overkill tbh yknow maybe thats the real reason why pk gave up

[brittle arch]

i still understand jackshit about godhome lore

[lament lotus]

is that god

[frosty light]

he was like "holy crap why the fuck did i make it so hard to get in" and hed have to like fight his kid to the death and not die with the way he arranged things

id rage quit too

[formal marsh]

i made this high quality edit to showcase how i percieved it

[frosty light]

its ok. no one does 🙂

[frosty light]

bro actually made his game too hard

[formal marsh]

now that i can see him correctly he doesnt look stupid anymore. he looks sad. i want to go back to ignorance

[south crown]

i consider the possibility that the reason the key is a simple key is because team cherry wanted you to fight the pale lurker first which gives you the extra simple key

[tacit kiln]

I see it now and it entirely changes the tone of how they talk

[frosty light]

shouldve let the other playtesters live instead of locking them in a pit forever

[frosty light]

(minus the super secret holes that are totally there ig)

[glossy depot]

I feel like Godholme lore was just put together to give an excuse for us to have a boss rush challenge.

[runic atlas]

Yarn in ssdisc???

[south crown]

fake yarn sorry

[formal marsh]

absolutely, i thought boon was just both silly and stupid

[frosty light]

why didnt they just make her have a key from the junk because she was looking for lost kings idols in the equivalent of a dumpster

[runic atlas]

🧐 yarn lying?

[frosty light]

wouldve been a lil more interesting, even

more strict gameplay tho

[lament lotus]

boon is literally just a sphere what the hell

[south crown]

because godmaster was kinda rushed iirc

[frosty light]

[tacit kiln]

I mean it set out to provide an easier way to fight bosses and have a boss rush

which it did well imo

[frosty light]

true they didnt include TRUE romance options ill never forgive them

[south crown]

i love identity theft

[formal marsh]

are you the real yarn or just a fan

[zinc ginkgo]

This is basically used for silksong now

[runic atlas]

doesn't look like identity theft

[frosty light]

yknow they did delay it for like a couple of extra months, actually

[south crown]

yeah they achieved that and therefore didnt focus too much on the lore i think

[runic atlas]

chat is this what the kids call gaslighting

[lament lotus]

yes

[tacit kiln]

unlike silksong lmao

[lament lotus]

no actually

[formal marsh]

stop making things up

[south crown]

yeah im yarn sorry for gaslighting you two 😭

[formal marsh]

im playing into the joke 😭

[runic atlas]

yeah your account was the same

but maybe it was me, i woke up witha cold so my mind is gone

[frosty light]

hornet can go for a jog, joker. of course a GAMER would never understand

[south crown]

yeah and was still sorta rushed

[lament lotus]

oh my god shandow

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-it-s-albert-einstein-gif-26216748

[uncut citrus]

true

[frosty light]

they shouldve silksong'd it tbh

[uncut citrus]

oh my god its Shandow

[south crown]

is that albert einstein

[cunning geode]

it’s Karl Marx

[frosty light]

what the fuck
how did you get this

its their love child............

[south crown]

they rushed gm to silksong it fr

[idle scaffold]

There were 2 Zal online... Identity theft is not nice.

[lament lotus]

dude its shandow

[frosty light]

TRUE!!!!

[south crown]

i love how he tries to go in a different direction to avoid the interaction but ends up at a clothing store he did not intend to go to and now has to confront the camera man
😭

[frosty light]

actually youre thinking of @coarse leaf im @frosty light

[south crown]

shandow isnt this your third alt

[sacred gate]

Would they improve the grass texture

[frosty light]

no it was his destiny to be there

[sacred gate]

I mean yeah its good, but greenpath looks more polished

[brittle garnet]

any monster hunters in chat

[frosty light]

i have no alts. theyre all equally a part of me its wrong to have favorites

[south crown]

truly the most vital part of the game

[idle scaffold]

In moss grotto? Well that is moss not grass so I guess different texture makes sense...

[sacred gate]

Oh its that

Would we have a living city of tears

[frosty light]

if the grass looks convincing enough the youtube comments on my lore videos will have to stop insulting me

[sacred gate]

I need a city of tears

10/10 area
10/10 music
10/10 Architectures
10/10 10/10

[south crown]

uhm yeah sure grandpa
lets get you to bed now

[south crown]

you have lore videos? i didnt even know

[frosty light]

but theyve got it all..... the dream tam 🙏

[frosty light]

not anymore......

no i literally just made it up for that bit

[lament lotus]

bagel goose ❤️

[south crown]

😭

[quartz cave]

Hi gays

[frosty light]

but maybe.... skong will give us all a second chance

[lament lotus]

hello ismoil

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-marvel-major-general-ffxiv-gif-2225911870593737747

[sacred gate]

Would we have City of tears v2

[lament lotus]

you should make lobotomy lore videos again

[frosty light]

😭😭😭

cant believe i glossed over all of that

happy lil smile 😃

[brittle garnet]

i just need everyone to see this awesome stupid fucking hammer

[opal canopy]

i think thats greymoor

[sacred gate]

Does it have rain

[frosty light]

boon rocking that lipstick, too

[opal canopy]

im pretty sure

[coral prawn]

That looks stupid I want it

[frosty light]

oh a tooth, not like a reflection

[sacred gate]

Do we have to fight markoth

[coral prawn]

Yes

[lament lotus]

if you want good ending, yes

he gives a ton of dream essence

[sacred gate]

Does that mean there's also an area similar to deepnest

[lament lotus]

huh

[frosty light]

like the one (3???) videogames or

[cunning geode]

deepnest is awesome

[formal marsh]

theoretically, deepnest is like a childhood area for hornet

[frosty light]

i think thats a ripped out chunk of a house

[coral prawn]

Like lobotomy corporation reference?

[gray parcel]

No?

[formal marsh]

she would be fine in an area similar to deepnest because shes built different

[lament lotus]

i dont remember but

[deep laurel]

we need an actual endgame area for fighting, deepnest ain't it

[gray parcel]

Any of y’all watch the new Devil may cry show?

[lament lotus]

me

[frosty light]

or yknow one of those things d&d people love to fight what were they called

[lament lotus]

i finished it

[gray parcel]

What did you think?

[lament lotus]

its so peak

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829112311678763109/979520572243456060/nam.gif

[frosty light]

d&d or dnd? shit its dnd isnt it

[sacred gate]

Imagine if cornifer decides to map pharloom

[gray parcel]

I thought it was so peak, I bought all of the games

[formal marsh]

both

[lament lotus]

dmc

[frosty light]

hes shakras master trust 🙏

[formal marsh]

d&d is technically the correct one but dnd is the same thing

[lament lotus]

try out dmc 1 or 3 first

[gray parcel]

I’m gonna go in order

[cunning geode]

every chill npc is gonna have a secret warrior background like sly yeahhhh let’s oversaturate this trope👹

[formal marsh]

and also calling it DnD (and relying on the pronunciation being the same) is the grounds for an amazing joke about putting your phone on "DnD mode" when youre playing DnD

[gray parcel]

PlayStation had like a 75% sale on everything

[lament lotus]

actually start with 3, dmc 1 is kinda mid

[gray parcel]

So I got it all for $30

[rough apex]

A storm is approaching, provoking black clouds in isolation

[cunning geode]

also hey Shandow

avatar still reminds me of mr beast

[lament lotus]

im going to helm breaker you

[lament lotus]

mr beast doesnt compare

[rough apex]

I am reclaimer of my name

[gray parcel]

There’s a lot

Gelatinous cube?

[gray parcel]

Nah DMC 1

[lament lotus]

dmc 3 is a 10/10 game though

[lament lotus]

its the first game chronologically

[frosty light]

GAZEBO

[cunning geode]

Shadow powder makes me come alive
Walking zombie mumbles depressed sighs
The blood I bleed must be black indeed
Speak the devil in my time of neeeeeeeeed

[lament lotus]

DmC is pretty good

[rough apex]

flint and steel
🧔
👕
🩳

[lament lotus]

i gotta watch the minecraft movie

[frosty light]

allegedly they were gonna add a big challenging area thats less specialized. like pop being hyper on platforming and godhome on bosses. colo on enemies but not through an area ig. thats what graig said, anyhow

[lament lotus]

im not seeing alot of hype for it

[cerulean sable]

what if steve from MC reloaded ar evolver by replacing a magazine below the grip

[frosty light]

hopefully silksong will have something like that

[cunning geode]

yeh i’m definitely quoting the minecraft movie 👹 👹 chicken jockey

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc-devil-may-cry-not-gif-22770994

I think it’s just a fun alt universe ngl

[lament lotus]

yeah

[rough apex]

CHICKEN JOCKEY
🧟‍♂️
🐔

[gray parcel]

It’s crazy how my PlayStation all stars battle royal days are coming back to haunt me 😭

[cunning geode]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5V8cJCOnOfGRqNP3xZeE6p?si=UfklOiznTRexSNXt0EG2nw no it was actually this song again

not chicken jockey

sorry y’all

[lament lotus]

chicken jockey

[frosty light]

oh yeah wait

[gray parcel]

I never knew the DMC Dante and Metal gear rising revengance raidan were in the game till like years later

[smoky nebula]

People who watched the minceraft movie how bad was it

[frosty light]

in what context did tc say we'dve revisit old areas from hk

[atomic sparrow]

🗣️ the nether !!!!!!!

[frosty light]

shit i think it was about the hornet dlc pre hk release?