sk-discussion

[lone crown]

But yeah no bloodborne content is to be expected

[slate wagon]

how do you move and use items, i assume you use wasd

[lone crown]

Did you see the other two bosses leaked

[trim estuary]

I saw uhhh the two Dark Souls bosses yea

[heady iron]

If no isshin in neightreign no play

[lone crown]

||Gaping Dragon|| and ||Dancer of the Boreal Valley||

[heady iron]

(I wasn’t gonna play anyway)

[trim estuary]

I haven't played Dark Souls so I have no idea who they are

[lone crown]

Damn

[trim estuary]

Oh I thought the second one was ||Ornstein and whatever the other one's name is||

[lone crown]

No that one's not confirmed confirmed but just mentioned

[heady iron]

I hope they add bed of chaos

[lone crown]

But i wouldnt be surprised if that returns its like 99% gonna happen

[lone crown]

But its fun!

[runic adder]

I have a bad habit of getting Soulsborne games and not getting very far into them despite enjoying them a lot so I'll probably do the same with Nightreign

I only really got a decent ways into DS1 and DS2

[lone crown]

With nightreign you play like 40-minute runs

And its fast and addictive

[opaque sigil]

Nightreign doesn’t really have soulslike progression afaik

[lone crown]

Yeah it doesnt

[opaque sigil]

Barely looks like it’s in the genre

[runic adder]

There's still some degree of progression though

[lone crown]

Its closer to a roguelike

Randomly generated and whatnot and you can pick which endboss you're attempting to reach

[trim estuary]

It is literally a roguelite

[lone crown]

Although I thinl you'll unlock those options as you play more

[lone crown]

Yeah who am i kidding

Gonna have so much replay value cant wait

[opaque sigil]

I’m probably not gonna play it but it’s cool when devs do new stuff with ips

[lone crown]

Thats what happens when you let other directors cook

Im sure ive already said like 100 times the guy who made Sekiro's combat is directing it

[cedar trench]

why is there a real time chat in battleship

[trim estuary]

alo

[uncut citrus]

tu fait quoi?

[lone crown]

We should delete 🇫🇷 imo tbh

[uncut citrus]

nope fr fr (:fr:)

[runic adder]

France deserves worse

[harsh yarrow]

No no, I like France

[runic adder]

Its destruction must be agonizing

[cedar trench]

my current crush is a great french speaker

[harsh yarrow]

Their nuclear weapons policy and their heavy use of nuclear energy is extremely based

[lone crown]

France is responsible for a lot of the prequel vs sequel arguments about silksong (in the older times)

Many such cases

[formal marsh]

i honestly dont get the france hate
why did the internet just pick a country to hate on for no reason

[runic adder]

Okay if we're going off of actual stuff France is one of the worst neocolonial powers out there

[formal marsh]

that seems a bit mean spirited and senseless

[cedar trench]

we basically buy all the stuff from them so go figure

[trim estuary]

[lone crown]

This is bait

There’s a hundred reasons to hate france like uhhhhh….

[cedar trench]

italy be like "nooo we won't have nuclear power" and then spend a gazillion dollars on buying french nuclear power

if the french plants fail we're fucked btw

[lone crown]

Oui oui baguette!

[harsh yarrow]

they still have colonial holdings

French Guiana

[trim estuary]

Baguette's are one of the worst breads to eat by itself

[lone crown]

My ancestors definitely hate the french for sure

Cause they fought against them 👹

[runic adder]

Oh yeah true, but they also exploit a lot of their former colonies pretty heavily

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

i dont get it when americans jump on the france hate bandwagon

like im british so i have my reasons but why tf r u getting involved

[lone crown]

America deserves the most hate

[cedar trench]

^^

[runic adder]

The USA is shrimply superior

[formal marsh]

my ancestors probably um uhhh um

[cedar trench]

you mean israel

[runic adder]

America number 1 and all that

[trim estuary]

Other countries are all over the American hate bandwagon so they gotta get in where they can

[formal marsh]

i know one of them immigrated from china to brazil

[lone crown]

Yeah but america is what allows that to happen simultaneously partially mostly

[coarse leaf]

mmm thats fair

[formal marsh]

no idea why she chose brazil of all places but she did

[coarse leaf]

but why did they specifically choose france

[cedar trench]

ok but there is a non negligible amount of sensible people in america you can count the good hearted isrealites on your hand

[lone crown]

“We surrender!”

[coarse leaf]

surely u should love france they helped u gain ur independence

[cedar trench]

it's mostly because of just how aware the country is of what it's doing

[runic adder]

It's because of the Iraq war

Mainly at least

[lone crown]

I have “valid” reasons to hate france unironically but i dont

[cedar trench]

i find the french language beautiful and fascinating

[coarse leaf]

french is a very nice language

[uncut citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996860677295710278/1069731614218780822/cta_lcik_camera.gif

[coarse leaf]

the genius

[lone crown]

True!

[uncut citrus]

this is how it looks to speak french

[cedar trench]

i tried to learn it but it's not for me

[runic adder]

I took French in high school and I regret it, wish I went with Spanish instead

[lone crown]

I took two years of french in hs

[uncut citrus]

isthat language alone

[cedar trench]

what is this map even about

[formal marsh]

blue countries vs gray countries

[uncut citrus]

wait no its not language alone

its freaky

[gray parcel]

Blue vs blue

[rapid abyss]

Danger of touching germany

[cedar trench]

he's getting his ass cooked

[uncut citrus]

what does that means

[rapid abyss]

Imperical

[cedar trench]

what does tuscany and a bit of lazio have to do with it

[gray parcel]

Reeves when French is mentioned

[formal marsh]

this is a bad nerd game how about you stop playing that and play something made for adults like dead by daylight

[rapid abyss]

Peak mentioned

Kirbstar i have completed all the studying and reunlocked this server

[cedar trench]

it's sunday night ws you wouldn't get it

[runic adder]

Mid by Daylight, play Guilty Gear Peak instead

[coarse leaf]

at what point ever did france own spain

[rapid abyss]

Only on my alt though

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-i-pull-up-guilty-gear-strive-ramlethal-valentine-guilty-gear-gif-22973617

[rapid abyss]

They were good friends during the napoleonic age

[rapid abyss]

Louis family was on the Spanish throne

[cedar trench]

whoooo is the handsome guy at the table

[formal marsh]

matches are going craaazy (i just reinstalled after a couple of months why is everyone DCing from every match)

[rapid abyss]

Its so hard to get into a game

[gray parcel]

Long ago before time, had a name, the first spinjitzu master…

[formal marsh]

chaos shuffle is also live! come play chaos shuffle! i love randomness!

[rapid abyss]

Especially as a killer main

I have so many killers bought

[gray parcel]

You have to buy killers??

[coarse leaf]

oh spain were a client state

[rapid abyss]

The collab ones ya

[gray parcel]

Damn that sucks

[coarse leaf]

speaking of empires

[gray parcel]

Back in my day collabs we’re free 👴

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/british-grenadiers-gif-24486326

[marsh ibex]

I’m not there though

god that sounds pretentious

[coarse leaf]

own it

[gray parcel]

Most overrated empire oat

[rapid abyss]

Its 5 bucks

[rapid abyss]

Theyre coming back

[gray parcel]

The British can’t even season their food bro

[rapid abyss]

Trump said he’d be open to rejoining the british commonwealth

Im not sure he knows what commonwealth means

[gray parcel]

Smartest trump decision

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/dammit-damn-it-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-gif-4926221152799030385

[runic adder]

For a single character though?

[rapid abyss]

Mhm

[coarse leaf]

depends if cyprus decided to go all out or not

[rapid abyss]

Well actually you can get a chapter for like 7 which gives you all the characters in the chapter

[runic adder]

That sounds more reasonable

[gray parcel]

I THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING

[rapid abyss]

Usually the survivors and killer associated with whatever franchise is being collabed with

[coarse leaf]

whats wrong with this

[gray parcel]

Germany if they stall and use engineering superiority ☝️🤓

[marsh ibex]

This is the guy who just signed an executive order to remove the department of education and you thought they were joking?

[rapid abyss]

Have you seen all the misspellings on state level education

[gray parcel]

I thought it was so brain dead the fat orange man couldn’t possibly do it

[fiery burrow]

Bro thought world war 2 hasn't happened yet

[runic adder]

Afaik it's nothing too bad it's just there's like no reason to do it so it's funny

[marsh ibex]

Have you seen how that isn’t a measure of anything and this is just a tool to bolster his voter base

[coarse leaf]

it doesnt do anything at worst amd is beneficial at best

[rapid abyss]

Like theres a huge document associated with floridas specific version of department of education and they spelled “ninth” and “twelfth” wrong thousands of times

[gray parcel]

My mother is in hard denial of how stupid trump is

I think she’s the only one who voted for him in my family

[rapid abyss]

Were literally falling into that one movie idiocracy

[rapid abyss]

My dads brothers side all did

[gray parcel]

Tbf you’re in Florida, it’s a given

Same here with Texas

[rapid abyss]

My physics teacher has a maga hat just hanging in his classroom

Thought political symbols werent allowed in classrooms but whatever

[formal marsh]

still weird to me that teachers have their own classrooms in the US

[gray parcel]

Do yours not?

[formal marsh]

in brazil every class is in your homeroom unless it needs to be in some sort of lab

[gray parcel]

Do the teachers rotate?

[marsh ibex]

makes sense I suppose

[formal marsh]

yeah

[marsh ibex]

us doesn’t really have homerooms aside from what

[rapid abyss]

Thats kinda the outlier though

[marsh ibex]

study hall periods?

[rapid abyss]

The front office of my school and plenty of classrooms have the little safe space sticker by the door

[marsh ibex]

question

you have none of the backstory but you still have the general weaknesses of the race

[rapid abyss]

With the rainbow

[marsh ibex]

would you rather become a viltrumite, kryptonian, or saiyan

[formal marsh]

saiyans have weaknesses?

[versed pollen]

Do you just get the weaknesses and that's it

[marsh ibex]

this hypothetical presumes you have been this way from birth

[rapid abyss]

Viltrumite

[marsh ibex]

No you get everything

[opaque sigil]

Dunno anything about dbz but kryptonite probably

[marsh ibex]

weaknesses included

[rapid abyss]

Wait what weaknesses do viltrumites even have are they not just broken

[formal marsh]

i have no idea what a viltrumite is

[marsh ibex]

bro just wants the cancer rocks

lmao

[rapid abyss]

Uh dont answer that if its some big spoiler for the show actually

[marsh ibex]

Have you watched the show

[rapid abyss]

I havent read the comic

[formal marsh]

how exactly do kryptonians work btw all i know is superman is super but when he's exposed to a rock from his home planet he dies

[rapid abyss]

Ya im caught up

[gray parcel]

Yeah I was about to spoil 😭

[formal marsh]

oooh viltrumites are the saiyans from Invincible

[marsh ibex]

Ok you’re just alpha brained

[rapid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[opaque sigil]

You can just hit a viltrumite hard enough and they’ll die

[marsh ibex]

can’t breath in space
||the equilibrium thing that cecil recently abused||

[formal marsh]

i mean doesnt that apply to anything

[marsh ibex]

Not a comic spoiler

[versed pollen]

I honestly know very little about any of these guys since I've sparsely experienced their respective medias and that's it

[rapid abyss]

You sure that second part happened in the show?

Lowkey dont remember that

[versed pollen]

Well I can't breathe in space either tbf

[marsh ibex]

Did you not watch season 3

[gray parcel]

It’s dragonball for white people

[rapid abyss]

Also they dont need to breathe in space

[warped rock]

no one can breathe in space they can just hold their breath

[versed pollen]

Oohh I'm Chinese there's no way I can be a viltrumite then

[gray parcel]

The loud noise sea salt spammed

[rapid abyss]

Oh

[slate wagon]

wait i haven’t actually watched the show, is that whole time omni man is in space he’s just holding his breath???

[marsh ibex]

superman can breathe in space pretty sure

[formal marsh]

dont white people also really like dragon ball

[gray parcel]

Made mark tweak tf out

[warped rock]

superman isn't an invincible character

[versed pollen]

Presumably so

[marsh ibex]

“How do you breathe in space?”
“That’s the neat part. You don’t!”

[rapid abyss]

Ya as in you dont need to

[formal marsh]

is that the original scene that became the meme

[marsh ibex]

again, read what I originally said you pringle

[opaque sigil]

He’s also at minimum more durable and way faster

[gray parcel]

Yeah, but the overwhelming majority of viewers are Mexicans

[opaque sigil]

Maybe stronger

[marsh ibex]

realistically the best answer is kryptonian however I want to go super saiyan so I’ll go saiyan

[rapid abyss]

Oh actually i would NOT want to be a fuckin viltrumite i forgot about their main biological component that drives the conflict of season 1

[wintry wagon]

In technicality you can contact your lungs in a way that mimics breathing but there’s not enough air density to draw any air into your lungs.

[marsh ibex]

Mfw IGNORE ALL OF THE BACKSTORY

nvm y’all can’t read

[warped rock]

for my defence, backreading is annoying

[marsh ibex]

I give up

[rapid abyss]

Dude what

[formal marsh]

JOKER I ASKED FOR EXPLANATIONS MULTIPLE TIMES PLEASE EXPLAIN I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TWO OF THOSE RACES

[gray parcel]

Joker acts like he has amazing media literacy and gets mad when people forget things

[versed pollen]

Where's that one meme of Frieza saying he's gotta kill all the saiyans

[marsh ibex]

can’t even start an intriguing discourse gotta keep reiterating these things

[opaque sigil]

Is saiyan a species

[rapid abyss]

I didnt forget anything what i mentioned was obviously just a component of what they are

[gray parcel]

Yes

[marsh ibex]

tf did this come from I literally prompted the discussion by ignoring the backstory thing

[rapid abyss]

What does that have to do with backstory

[marsh ibex]

||their shitty emotional intelligence is not a biological component it is a result of their socialization blah blah||

[rapid abyss]

No

[formal marsh]

-do saiyans even have any biological weakness
-what the fuck do the invincible guys do
-how do kryptonians work? are they just superman but when exposed to kryptonite they get weak? isnt kryptonite from their home planet? how did they live in their home planet?

[quartz cave]

Hello chat hello joky

[rapid abyss]

I meant their aging

[marsh ibex]

Oh

[gray parcel]

Also what is the component? That viltrmites are from the empire 😭

[marsh ibex]

say that bruh

smh

[opaque sigil]

Kryptonite reduces them back to what they were on their home planet

[rapid abyss]

Didnt want to spoil

[slate wagon]

i don’t think krpytoians have powers normally
like isn’t superman just like that cause our sun

[marsh ibex]

yeah that’s fair but the same applies to every race I noted

[quartz cave]

What are yall talking about? Mid?

[opaque sigil]

Them being strong and shit isn’t normal it’s a result of the yellow sun

[rapid abyss]

Idk superman that well i havent seen any in a whiile

[marsh ibex]

kryptonians or more specifically superman is insanely long lived in most comic runs

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-are-you-sure-omni-man-gif-10978130412778304783

[rapid abyss]

SEA SALT

[formal marsh]

oh so when superman is exposed to kryptonite he doesnt actually get weak? he just becomes a regular (non-super) man

[gray parcel]

WGERE IS OMNI MAN

[rapid abyss]

I NEED YOU

[opaque sigil]

Superman curb stomps viltrumites too

[marsh ibex]

And saiyans have a similar slower aging thing that viltrumites do but they stay in their prime longer and then age I don’t believe their lifespans are any longer

[opaque sigil]

Which by comparison is incredibly weak

[formal marsh]

i mean thats true but i thought he would like curl in pain and die because of it

[marsh ibex]

kryptonite is famously inconsistent

[versed pollen]

So he's like
A plant

[formal marsh]

splendid! superhero writing where the weakness changes power depending on what's needed for the plot!

[marsh ibex]

Sometimes it just depowers sometimes it makes superman actually weaker sometimes it does nothing sometimes it makes him gay if it’s pink for some reason

[gray parcel]

SEA SALT

[versed pollen]

Oh shit fr?

[formal marsh]

50/50 on whether the pink kryptonite making him gay was a joke or is canon somewhere in some comic book

[marsh ibex]

I put the last one into confuse you

[marsh ibex]

It’s canon but most forms of non green kryptonite are either magically made or synthetic

[gray parcel]

Superman loses to plot

[formal marsh]

i see

[versed pollen]

An the pink one makes him gay. Fascinating

[marsh ibex]

so those wouldn’t apply to the situation because none of the backstoru people wouldn’t be making it

[gray parcel]

Any of y’all read absolute Superman? Is it good?

[versed pollen]

I will conduct no further research on the topic

[marsh ibex]

Sometimes the pink one makes him a woman

again, inconsistent

[formal marsh]

i mean i feel like being a kryptonian would be pretty good then

[marsh ibex]

Haven’t read but it’s pretty dope

[formal marsh]

youre super strong unless you come in contact with what i assume would be treated as a rare mineral from comets

[marsh ibex]

his cape is made from the ashes of his home planet

[formal marsh]

so you should be good

[marsh ibex]

Auramaxxing

[rapid abyss]

All in all I think i’d choose viltrumite

[versed pollen]

Yea and if someone makes a magic pink stone you turn into a woman. Sounds like there's no downside to me

[gray parcel]

Absolute Batman is amazing so I’m considering reading the others

[opaque sigil]

Superman is also weak to magic in general but that’s not a huge problem

Well “weak”

[formal marsh]

i think im weak to magic too

[gray parcel]

What if you’re already a woman

[marsh ibex]

and that’s also sometimes just “magic affects him like it affects everyone else”

[versed pollen]

Who knows what'll happen

[opaque sigil]

Magic works on him he’s not like extra vulnerable

[rapid abyss]

Their defense isnt that strong compared to their offense so if i really wanted to die i could just fall asleep while being close enough to get pulled into the sun or something

[trim estuary]

Woman+

[opaque sigil]

But compared to everything else that’s weak

[gray parcel]

Woman^2

[marsh ibex]

However I believe that I would choose saiyan. Since I don’t have any backstory stuff I’m not training with whis or beerus and getting god ki and I don’t think I can intuit that but again

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-super-saiyan-goku-gif-5009523

I need it

deeply

[rapid abyss]

I havent watched the superman movies but how does he have like any problems

[versed pollen]

Is this a deeply masculine urge

[marsh ibex]

a little bit yeah

[rapid abyss]

Isnt he faster than the flash and has super senses

[marsh ibex]

they make stronger enemies or they take him out of the plot somehow

or they have ideological battles

[opaque sigil]

DC has plenty of bullshit out there

[rapid abyss]

Is superman like literally genuinely invulnerable or just like super duper tough

[marsh ibex]

if you wanna know read but he’s really tough

[opaque sigil]

Darkseid, Zod, doomsday

[rapid abyss]

Idk where to get comics

Without spending my whole liver

[marsh ibex]

Mfw doomsday is mahoraga but actually not shit

[marsh ibex]

Cuz it’s not jjk

[rapid abyss]

Mahoraga is cool

[formal marsh]

Is Superman Invincible?

🔥✍️

[rapid abyss]

I like the scene where he has a lot of colors

[marsh ibex]

basically doomsday can’t die the same way twice

[rapid abyss]

If superman can die, that means none of us are

[marsh ibex]

better adaptation than maho

[rapid abyss]

I have this power too

[marsh ibex]

also in a lot of superman stuff doomsday can vomit kryptonite gas for some reason

[marsh ibex]

Yeah but you don’t come back after death

[formal marsh]

because it was convenient for the plot!

[marsh ibex]

and darkseid is like a new god or something idk

[rapid abyss]

How specific is it

[marsh ibex]

i’m not explaining lore to you I’d be here all day and I don’t read comics anymore

[rapid abyss]

Fine

[marsh ibex]

still have that rebirth issue one though

Also to answer your flash question

usually he’s not as fast as the flash

he’s as fast as the flash when flash isn’t going all out

Usually

[rapid abyss]

Dont they race around the whole world

[marsh ibex]

Yeah
For charity

[rapid abyss]

Also speedsters in general seem kinda ridiculous

[marsh ibex]

Welcome to comics

[rapid abyss]

The only one i can really fathom working fairly within the plot is a train because hes petty slow

[formal marsh]

🧑‍🤝‍🧑

[cedar trench]

nobody tells you this but there's other people out there

[rustic ore]

i was FULLY expecting the glass to come shredding by

disclaimer: this is not a gif

https://tenor.com/view/squinting-gif-21977097

[buoyant sky]

lmao yesterday I got hit by a police baston during protest

anyways when is silksong

it didn't. I think that police was also on our side just wanted to seem like he was following orders

honestly I didn't even realize it was a baston at first

[fiery burrow]

One of the icebreakers of all time

[rapid abyss]

Omg

Bastion from overwatch hit you?

[buoyant sky]

LOL

[rapid abyss]

What is a police baston

[fiery burrow]

A baton?

[formal marsh]

baton
the police stick

[buoyant sky]

the stick thingy I don't know what it is called

[formal marsh]

it is a baton yeah

[buoyant sky]

oh its baton mb

[formal marsh]

gonna be honest i didnt even notice you made a typo i read it as baton at first

[rapid abyss]

They use those?

Dont they have like way better abilities

[buoyant sky]

there is a word called baston in turkish, its the stick old people use to walk. I was typing baston instead of baton without realizing

[buoyant sky]

Mf do you want them to shoot us in the face for peacefully protesting

[rapid abyss]

i WANT them to join the fun

Perhaps play some music from their car

[buoyant sky]

WHAT

[fiery burrow]

Not that beating you with a baton is morally correct either but

[rapid abyss]

Liven things up

[buoyant sky]

oh yeah, imagine protesting without dark age OST banging in our ears

[rapid abyss]

But if they insist on being lame and stopping the protest what the heck is a stick gonna do

[buoyant sky]

so boring smh

[rapid abyss]

Feel like that will just escalate violence

[buoyant sky]

stick is just the first line of warning. They follow it with plastic bullets and tear gasses

[rapid abyss]

Idk i havent passed my police training

[rapid abyss]

Oh i see its like phases of a boss rush

[buoyant sky]

Yeah. We are in cyprus, we don't have rights to protest for another country exactly so yelling from our campus is the best we can do. We tried to enter the city but they beat us at the gates

[rapid abyss]

Thats messed up

[buoyant sky]

but in turkey they have rights to protest, and for using their rights the police is using unrelenting violence. Basic third world country dictatorship stuff

[rapid abyss]

Good thing my country has freedom of speech and allows protest since thats one of the core principles it was founded on

Oh wait

[formal marsh]

...arent you american

[rapid abyss]

For now

[buoyant sky]

freedom of speech is such a fragile thing, be careful with that. It looks so strong but fades away so easily at the slightest mistake

[rapid abyss]

I’ll lead a revolution and make a new country thats way better

Called lamarica

[buoyant sky]

just because freedom of speech exist doesn't mean you can't follow it up with solid societal backlash to dumb ideas

[outer temple]

Soon you’ll be Canadian

After we take over

[heady iron]

Freedom of speech means I can call this server dookie without repercussion

[fiery burrow]

Freedom of speech means I can say Hornet is void in #off-topic and #hk-lore

[gray parcel]

The mods will agree

[lone crown]

There is no freedom of speech in #hk-lore

I was banned for it

[gray parcel]

I have exercised my freedom of speech in lore

[lone crown]

Dude you might be cooked

[gray parcel]

Nah I’m solid

[fiery burrow]

pray the nice mods are the ones who see it first

[lone crown]

Well tbf i only got banned there cause i already had a track record and i think joker/powdered deliberately told me not to or i’d get banned

[fiery burrow]

Yis got banned for the same thing. hk-lore ain't for the faint of heart

You ought to be ready to defend your jokes earnestly

[lone crown]

I got away with it the first time

[heady iron]

Sumwan and her consequences have been a disaster for the #hk-lore channel of the official Hollow Knight server hosted on Discord

[fiery burrow]

Mosscord lore channel is the last good place to discuss HK lore

[cedar trench]

Hk lore is so funny it was never that serious

[bitter marlin]

what did they do

i just watch the moss guy on youtube for all my lore

[fiery burrow]

You're anti-intellectual

[heady iron]

Nothing I just pinned everything on one user for dramatic effect

[cunning geode]

well that’s just sad

[bitter marlin]

neon white is so peak

[cedar trench]

LMFAOOOOOO

[bitter marlin]

i love speedy games with good movement systems

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[cunning geode]

ooooooo doom 2 ooooooooo!!

[bitter marlin]

i havent played a single doom game ever

i should maybe play them

[cunning geode]

maybe, it’s up to you obviously

[bitter marlin]

literally every single one is on gamepss

[heady iron]

Doom 3 is a great entry point for your preference of games

[cunning geode]

he’s japing

[bitter marlin]

(do microsoft and bethesda have some kinda deal to have every bethesda game on gamepass)

[cunning geode]

probably

[bitter marlin]

like every elder scrolls game thats on xbox
every fallout game thats on xbox
every doom game

starfield

[cedar trench]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3ZZYsIaMP7KOC9XDWAGTEz?si=wNU2W2hwS3qP6E8HNatQgQ

[cunning geode]

well bethesda didn’t really make ANY doom games they just published the most recent ones

[bitter marlin]

idk whats else on there

[cedar trench]

FUCKED!

[cunning geode]

they especially didn’t make the originals 👹

[bitter marlin]

well every game theyve published

[cunning geode]

byup

[bitter marlin]

i mean bethesda didnt make fallout new vegas irrc

[cunning geode]

otherwise, let’s be honest, they would’ve been fucking messes

[quiet knot]

Lmfao

[cunning geode]

that’s right it was another team behind new vegas

[quiet knot]

why did silly fella get muted

[cunning geode]

the proof is in the pudding i believe

[carmine island]

He spoke in #hk-lore

[bitter marlin]

honestly i would rather bethesda make a game over any other company thats known for having alot of bugs in there games

[cunning geode]

well

[quiet knot]

Oh lmao

[cunning geode]

sure i guess

[bitter marlin]

because bethesda games have funny bugs in them

[fiery burrow]

You need to be authorized via Modmail to speak in HK-lore

[bitter marlin]

idk how else to describe it

[cunning geode]

the mountain horses

[quiet knot]

You need a PhD to speak in there

[bitter marlin]

@exotic rover holy shit my old account is still in this server

i joined on april fools

im a joke in this server

[cunning geode]

you must fight, only one can remain

[bitter marlin]

TGATS ME

I NEED TO FIGHT MYSELF??

[cunning geode]

yeas

[fiery burrow]

There was apparently a lore test via google forms or something like that way before I joined which sounds really funny

[opaque sigil]

That was very dumb

[quiet knot]

Lmao

[versed pollen]

I thought that was specifically for a role

[opaque sigil]

It was wrong too I think?

[cunning geode]

“Is Hollow Knight woke”

[versed pollen]

I sure hope so

[quiet knot]

100%

[atomic sparrow]

yeah

[bitter marlin]

hornet uses PRONOUNS

[formal marsh]

that sounds fucking hilarious i love it

mods you should bring it back

[cunning geode]

the GENDERED child?????!!!

[fiery burrow]

Hardest question "What is BV's gender" it trips up all users

[bitter marlin]

HELP I CANT STOP LAUGHING AT THIS

[cunning geode]

no help will come

[formal marsh]

better question: why is BV slightly longer than your average vessel

[cunning geode]

grew a little from the orange goo

[formal marsh]

but its already long before being gooed isnt it

[fiery burrow]

Actual answer, she wears a mothwing cloak

[bitter marlin]

what does BV stand for

oh broken vessel?

[formal marsh]

i mean thats interesting but does that really correlate to anything

[marsh ibex]

they're not

[formal marsh]

TK doesnt get longer because of the cloak
the corpse we get the cloak from isnt long

[fiery burrow]

When TK uses the cloak it does grow longer

[marsh ibex]

their body is slightly larger but the cloak gives the impression they're longer

[formal marsh]

oooooh that makes sense
that and the horns

[marsh ibex]

BV's cloak is like

[fiery burrow]

Greenpath vessel also has a longer cloak

[marsh ibex]

always drawn like this

pixels be damned

[formal marsh]

yeah i never noticed but its a mix of the cloak and horns

[atomic sparrow]

can we fix broken vessel

[marsh ibex]

no

[quiet knot]

I CAN FIX HIM

[bitter marlin]

imagine if theres a little small egg in the dead pale kings body in the castle

[marsh ibex]

they're dead

[formal marsh]

and i guess the horns can just be dismissed as natural because i dont think theres a reason theyre longer

[atomic sparrow]

unfortunate

[fiery burrow]

Yuh there are some long horns in the abyss too

[marsh ibex]

don't really know why that would be the case

[formal marsh]

also why is BV female or are you just shitposting

[marsh ibex]

plus that would somewhat go against the game saying he's gonezo

[bitter marlin]

its just something funny i thought of

[fiery burrow]

Its a personal headcanon of mine that I repeat at every moment to spark discussion about vessel gender

[bitter marlin]

just like a little pale king popping outta his own head

[marsh ibex]

however a tiny pale king would be humorous

[fiery burrow]

Also Graig confirmed it so it must be true

[marsh ibex]

stepped on by their child

to get kingsoul fragment

[formal marsh]

everything graig has ever said is true. do you doubt me? watch this.

[bitter marlin]

LMAO

thats how he fully died

[formal marsh]

for instance, toast missed something

[fleet field]

this is factual and not edited

[formal marsh]

This is true

[fleet field]

Hollow Knight : The Dynasty Continues

[harsh yarrow]

That Graig

Graig likes to meme
Play Graigs game, Rocs Odyssey

[modern stone]

100% real

[fleet field]

did it release yet

[harsh yarrow]

Demo is out now

[fleet field]

where download

[cedar trench]

if hallownest was real i'd personally be smoking the mosskin in fog canyon water in a نارگیل

[harsh yarrow]

Nah, just a demo
From a chat with Graig its roughly equivelent to the very very very early builds of Hollow Knight

[bitter marlin]

is that silksong

[harsh yarrow]

Back before it was a Unity game

Its certainly rough around the edges

[fleet field]

but where do i get the demo

[harsh yarrow]

Steam

[modern stone]

lol same

what demo

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/397062813949886466/1119366763994423348/IMG_3212.gif

[fleet field]

will play one day

[fleet field]

silksong

[harsh yarrow]

But in general, most stuff Graig says about Silksong is just him having some fun

[cedar trench]

me looking at unn (powerless) as i take a rip out of the substance of its dreams

[modern stone]

finally we are discussing silksong is ss discussion

[harsh yarrow]

Hes not that involved with Silksongs development, unclear if he ever was but

[fleet field]

unn is NOT powerless

[fleet field]

he was a tester once, but i dont think he is anymore

[harsh yarrow]

Most of his effort is on Roc's Odyssey now, not with TC and Hollow Knight/Silksong

Yeah, Graig was the lead playtester

[cedar trench]

in this situation it is because the second i get chemical hunger from smoking straight moss he'll be on the menu

[cunning geode]

“Proceeds the Weedian….. NAZARETH”

[fleet field]

fair

[harsh yarrow]

Oooh thats a great question to ask Graig, next time I see him on

I kinda wonder if they ever tested builds where Hornet was playable in Hollow Knight- I kinda assume not

[cedar trench]

grimm is an eight year old he doesn't mean shit i'll end every form of life in hallownest i'll be injecting straight butterfly remains

[harsh yarrow]

But more than likely, if such builds existed they'd be either super early into Hollow Knights dev, a sideproject by TC not playtestable, or extremely early into Silksongs dev in 2017

[cunning geode]

yeah that may have never happened

[modern stone]

you know what i would ask graig? he probably couldnt answer but i would ask if theres cutscenes in silksong, like in hollow knight when you walk into the city of tears fountain for the first time

[cedar trench]

that was so out of place for no reason lol

[harsh yarrow]

Graig probably would know

But probably cant say lol
I'd assume there will be

[fleet field]

oh a guy just beat the wr for any%

[modern stone]

it would be fire

[fleet field]

like today

[harsh yarrow]

I love that cutscene though
I just love City of Tears though

[cedar trench]

i hope leth does an ama and he just says "idk they're working on it though"

to basically every question

[fleet field]

idk why they even do ama's, they cant answer anything

[cedar trench]

it's ask me anything not answer you anything

[fleet field]

(refering to team cherry, not just leth)

[fleet field]

[harsh yarrow]

I dont think TC has done an AMA in quite a long while

[cedar trench]

DOING AN AMA!!!!!!!

[fleet field]

even if they did i dont think they'd say much

[fiery burrow]

Cutscenes are overrated. I don't enjoy having control ripped away from me. Likewise I don't enjoy boss roars

[harsh yarrow]

false :3

[cedar trench]

trueeeeeee trueee tru

[floral delta]

Nine Sols PFP

[harsh yarrow]

Boss Roars and Cutscenes are cool

[modern stone]

really?

[cedar trench]

boss roars are so overrated get that shit out of here you are flukemarm

[harsh yarrow]

It'd be better if they were just skipable

[fleet field]

depends on cutsene

[cedar trench]

so dramatic and for what!!!

[lone crown]

You can move during that one

[fiery burrow]

Because everyone would be asking them nerd stuff like "Why did you go silent for a few years?" 🤓 instead of the real questions like "Where are the Pale Ore freezers for making Gruzzer Icecream??"

[cedar trench]

yeah but it's flukemarm

[lone crown]

Well tbf it woke up from sleep

Id scream if a cockroach were on me when i woke up

[cedar trench]

you are also pregnant

[fiery burrow]

Whats cooler is being able to play the game

Walking and swinging your needle is the coolest thing let me do more of that

[fleet field]

i think at LEAST 50% of questions would be "silksong when"

[harsh yarrow]

Which both stop you for doing for 5 seconds at most

[lone crown]

In MH you can perfect block the monster roars

[harsh yarrow]

cutscenes you can skip
boss roars are short

[fiery burrow]

5 seconds of feeling awful should be avoided

[cedar trench]

does hk have cutscene bosses

[fiery burrow]

I don't mind cutscenes too much since they happen like four times outside of endings

Boss roars are mid

Give me an earplugs charm TC

[harsh yarrow]

Cutscenes shouldnt be overused- that I can agree with

But they're not bad

[cedar trench]

i just remember the bullshit amount of tyime i lost trying for radiant absrad because she just HAS to do the thing

[fleet field]

i wish i could move during them

[warped rock]

and then they reuse the same 4 sound effects for every boss

[harsh yarrow]

Boss Roars are just a quick second to get ready to fight a boss

[lone crown]

Cutscene? Like Traitor Lord and Cloth exchange? Oro and Mato phase transition? Sly’s? Pure Vessel’s introduction?

[marsh ibex]

I hope they introduce quick time events just to piss you off

[fiery burrow]

Its fine if its like MGRR

[cedar trench]

radiance taking 20 material seconds of my time to spread her wings and get her ass kicked

[lone crown]

Real

[harsh yarrow]

I honestly cant remember if that happens every time

Isnt that just on the first time getting to her in a playthrough?

[fiery burrow]

MGRR gets away with stuff like cutscenes, quicktime events, and slow walking sections by making everything super cool

[lone crown]

I think ann meant absrad

[harsh yarrow]

Ahh

[cedar trench]

yep

[harsh yarrow]

yeah, I've not done that fight very much lol

I beat abs rad once and that was it for me XD

[cedar trench]

it's pretty cooooool on a p5 run because it's like the final boss but in hall of gods it's just so extra

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

[lone crown]

Real

[fiery burrow]

Supposedly Radiance was going to be inbetween AbsRad and Anyrad

[harsh yarrow]

what?

[fiery burrow]

Hope we get ultratough optional bosses in Silksong

[lone crown]

No the boss before anyrad was doomsday sunset

[harsh yarrow]

So... you want more NKGs?

[cedar trench]

babygirl i have an overcharmed uber optimized build and you're on radiant one of us is going down and it's probably me stop complicating things

[fiery burrow]

before release Radiance was like super duper tough according to graig

[lone crown]

The difference is NKG isnt a tough boss

[cedar trench]

NO that's so lame

[harsh yarrow]

Ahhhh

[floral delta]

I want more Soul Masters

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah honeslty fair that they simplifed radience

[cedar trench]

i kind of enjoy the term "aura farming" and all its variations because it's super nifty to use

and helps fill a niche that "tryhard" didn't quite get right

[harsh yarrow]

they're an upgrade on THK, and on tier or slightly easier than NKG

[cunning geode]

NKG has haduken and shoryuken, he should get a tatsumaki-senpukyaku and a raging demon attack

[lone crown]

I hope for late/endgame bosses that are actually unique tbh, all of HK’s are “stronger version haha” although the one acceptable time is THK and PV for being very different and also being goated

[fiery burrow]

Toughest part of NKG is staying awake

[harsh yarrow]

lol

[cedar trench]

hk's lategame is so barren and weird all the bosses are either jokes or refights

[lone crown]

I loved pale court for scratching that itch i had

[harsh yarrow]

Honestly, if they werent all in P5 it'd be more okay

[fiery burrow]

Pale Court is the goat

[cedar trench]

the very serious and difficult traitor lord

[harsh yarrow]

You dont need to fight false knight twice lol

[fiery burrow]

Blah blah shade cloak blah blah balance

[lone crown]

Do we really need massive miserable cucumber in pantheon 5?

[harsh yarrow]

what?

[lone crown]

And fucking gruz mother????

[fiery burrow]

I don't want to fight false knight once in P5

[harsh yarrow]

Gruz Mother is a boss,, so...

[cedar trench]

yeah we do fool

[lone crown]

Meant p5*

[harsh yarrow]

For P5 yeah, Gruz Mother should be in it

[fiery burrow]

Remove everything besides Hornet 2, Pantheon Heads, and AbsRad. White Defender could show up too

[cedar trench]

i don't want to fight in p5 just give me the weathered mask ffs

[lone crown]

Making you fight beginner bosses with endgame equipment AND THEN have the harder ones anyway

[fiery burrow]

Not really she's piss easy with lategame gear and takes 10 seconds just like over half the bosses

[harsh yarrow]

But if they just cut the fluff like both False Knight and Failed Champ

[cedar trench]

indie devs love making you waste your time

[marsh ibex]

they should’ve made the bosses actually harder as opposed to the really mid arena changes ascended brings

[fiery burrow]

Gruz Mother would not be missed if she was removed from Pantheon 5 lmao

[marsh ibex]

most of the time they’re not an issue aside from warrior dreams but all warrior dreams suck anyways

[fiery burrow]

Its the first boss 😭

[harsh yarrow]

I really wanted them to bring back Quirel for the Uumuu fight...

[marsh ibex]

I don’t even think hu changes meaningfully anyways

[marsh ibex]

*Quirrel

[harsh yarrow]

That would've been cooler D:

[fiery burrow]

Quirrel takes longer

[lone crown]

If a hall of gods concept returns to Silksong and there’s boss refights with harder variations to select, they should incorporate actually different moves instead of arena

And also have those same variations be in Silksoul, i feel that’d be cool

[harsh yarrow]

idgaf, I like Quirrel

[lone crown]

Like one new attack or something

[harsh yarrow]

and its not like the Godmasters cant bring back other non-bosses for an apperance

[fiery burrow]

I like quirrel too but he's clearly not giving it his all

[harsh yarrow]

They do for Tiso

[fiery burrow]

He spends like half the time hopping around like a madman

[cedar trench]

i'm gonna ping a team cherry member so they see this get a nice idea and delay the game another 20 weeks to implement it

[lone crown]

I dont care its WORTH it

[harsh yarrow]

YES

[cedar trench]

i actually would but i've been on thin ice since 2022

[harsh yarrow]

harder bosses =/= more health and hitting harder

Make a boss more mechanically involved, give them new moves, that type of shit

[fiery burrow]

tbf I think the health changes are good

[cedar trench]

i don't

[fiery burrow]

So many bosses are just too squishy you can damage tank through them

[harsh yarrow]

If its an early game boss, sure, boost their health to be more ready to counter your stronger attacks

[cedar trench]

wash your teeth right now your breath probably smells like shit

[harsh yarrow]

But not all bosses should just be more health

[cedar trench]

you passed a tonsil stone

[lone crown]

Health changes are good as well but new attacks or mechanics would be just peak

[lone crown]

Like both at the same time

[cedar trench]

yeah tonsil stones are just mouth gunk

[harsh yarrow]

I do kinda hope that Silksoul isnt a 1-life type of thing

[lone crown]

I dont think it is

Hold on let me provide the proof

[harsh yarrow]

Its not that I'd really mind

[fiery burrow]

but like with the Pure Vessel health boost thats more time fighting Pure Vessel thus more fun

[cedar trench]

they specifically said it isn't

[cedar trench]

not every boss is fun in fact some bosses are klame

[harsh yarrow]

Pure Vessel is quite mechanically distinct from THK, so I give them a pass there lol

[fiery burrow]

If the boss is fun I enjoy health boost if the boss is garbage it shouldn't be there in the first place

[harsh yarrow]

I also do like Pure Vessel

[lone crown]

I don’t think this would mean “just permadeath”

Also they talk about it more in the video

[harsh yarrow]

yeah

I hope that it isnt permadeath at all tho

[fiery burrow]

Yeah I'd go so far as to say half the games roster is pretty mediocre

[cedar trench]

funny because true

[harsh yarrow]

What I liked about Steel Soul is how it shows how much you've mastered the game

[fiery burrow]

Which isn't the fault of health boosts its just exacerbated by them

[lone crown]

A lot of HK bosses are straight ass

[harsh yarrow]

But I wouldnt mind Silksoul being a tougher playthrough option

[floral delta]

[cedar trench]

Hk is overall an excellent game but it's held in place by a lot of its individual moments being insanely good and the average player not knowing what they're doing

[lone crown]

There’s like five good ones

[fiery burrow]

HK is held together by its good map design

[cedar trench]

silksong is gonna add a lot of polish to the formula

[harsh yarrow]

Mantis Lords, Both Hornets, Troupe Master Grimm, THK, and Radience?

[cedar trench]

tmg

[fiery burrow]

TMG is mid

[marsh ibex]

Not particularly

[harsh yarrow]

I like Troupe Master

[marsh ibex]

kinda just makes it more of a metroidvania with prepping and shit

[fiery burrow]

Over half the fight is spent in pufferfish mode

[lone crown]

And also imo i loved the sound design, hearing the nail swings and the splats and the breaking of things etc

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

More time to listen to his music!

[lone crown]

Also the wind ambience is good

[cedar trench]

also the artstyle is insane

[marsh ibex]

Holy fuck

[harsh yarrow]

Thats my biggest qualm with Godhome, how in the fuck could you ever strip grimm of his music

[fiery burrow]

Sound design and art is good but I'm mostly talking about gameplay

[marsh ibex]

You have to see this

https://x.com/imajination16/status/1903934479787258261

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[lone crown]

It felt like i wasnt meant to be there when i went back to king’s pass with mantis claw, and found myself in howling cliffs

[cedar trench]

le aurafarm

[floral delta]

Lebrooon

[cedar trench]

this is so good thanks joker

[fiery burrow]

a good song can't carry a boring fight sorry 😔

[lone crown]

Oh

[harsh yarrow]

TC was def skilled with Map design when going into Hollow Knight

Enemy and Boss design... not so much

[fiery burrow]

Except for when they made Greenpath but I forgive them

[cedar trench]

what excites me about silksong is that it looks like they figured pve out

[formal marsh]

i always forget youre a greenpath hater

[harsh yarrow]

Its fair

[fiery burrow]

Its the defining trait of my being

[formal marsh]

yeah the only good combat in HK is the pvp

[harsh yarrow]

Compare it visually to moss grotto

[fiery burrow]

How could you forget such an important detail?

[harsh yarrow]

Moss Grotto is amazing looking

[cedar trench]

i haven't seen a single bad ss screenshot

[formal marsh]

your defining trait for me is the fact there was some guy impersonating you and i never knew if it was you or him talking

[cedar trench]

some areas of hk just look like whatever

[fiery burrow]

Every screenshot without colored blood is automatically garbage

[cedar trench]

silksong never misses

[formal marsh]

i mean i sure hope they wouldnt add bad parts to the trailers

[lone crown]

Everyone blame William

[formal marsh]

boo!

[atomic sparrow]

william afton ?

[harsh yarrow]

lol

[formal marsh]

no, william shakespeare

[lone crown]

For making MID bosses

[cedar trench]

it's actually the music guy behind boss balancing and the likes

lesser known fact

but team cherry is a small studio, you'd expect that of them

[harsh yarrow]

;p;

lol*

[lone crown]

Ari didnt want to say William’s bosses suck cause he felt bad

And he doesn’t want more work to do surely

[harsh yarrow]

lol

[fiery burrow]

The only boss that looks mid rn is Moss Mother and she's the first one so all is forgiven

[harsh yarrow]

Moss Mother and Lace seem like better than what we see in Hollow Knight

Least visually, holy spritework

[lone crown]

Even moss mother has some cool things especially compared to early HK counterparts like vengefly king or gruz mother

[fiery burrow]

Yeah

[harsh yarrow]

Ah right

Moss Mother is more a Gruz Mother
Bellbeast is going to be the False Knight

[lone crown]

Bellbeast is the gateway before the real game

But i dont think calling it a false knight is accurate

[harsh yarrow]

hm

[lone crown]

Unsure tbh there can’t be parallels for everything

[harsh yarrow]

Maybe it'd be better to call them a merger of Hornet and False Knight?

[lone crown]

Wylk….

[fiery burrow]

shrue

[harsh yarrow]

False Knight is an important progression milestone, that opens up a decent chunk of the game to you

[fiery burrow]

Will Silksong have a rove copy?

[lone crown]

By decent chunk you mean greenpath?

[harsh yarrow]

But you can only properly explore whats been opened up once you defeat Hornet

[floral delta]

But the City Crest

[lone crown]

The point HK’s routing options explode is when you grab mantis claw

[harsh yarrow]

hm

Maybe it'd be more right to call Bellbeast Horent 1s role?

[lone crown]

Yeah maybe

[harsh yarrow]

Because Hornet 1 is the boss that gates you from Mothwing Cloak and Claw

[fiery burrow]

Bellbeast is when I want to be dying

[lone crown]

We don’t know a lot regarding quantity of explorable things in terms of the beginning

[harsh yarrow]

Other than you get your VS equivelent before Bellbeast lol

Last one for the Switch?

[lone crown]

🍺

🍻

This one’s the one

[harsh yarrow]

that assumes that Silksong is there lol

Ahh

XD
Sorry, too much April 2nd bullshit

lol, if you want to believe Samus Hunter sure xXD

[fiery burrow]

Hopefully BB is when the leash gets taken off too, like you get dropped off somewhere and can go to the far fields, coral canyon, citadel, etc whenever you want

[harsh yarrow]

I've assumed that Bellbeast will open you up to one or two areas

[floral delta]

BellBeast?

[harsh yarrow]

then in there you get some movement ability that opens up the rest of the game

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397062813949886466/1236468076938268753/IMG_3761.gif

[harsh yarrow]

If we had a nice repo for all the screenshots mapping out the early areas would be so much easier XD

but honestly idgaf

[fiery burrow]

https://fixvx.com/lezzyvenny/status/1883248024077676931?s=46

[warped rock]

rain world gameplay

[fiery burrow]

Get good

RW is hard thats the point you're at the bottom of the foodchain

[cedar trench]

@formal marsh first ever good texting theory screenshot

[warped rock]

Why would anybody want to feel that way??

[fiery burrow]

because its ART

RW is supposed to feel like garbage to play nature is cruel

[lone crown]

I have already discussed why rain world is ass

[fiery burrow]

and its unfair like the wilderness

[warped rock]

So camping simulator but you remove almost everything that makes it interesting

And make bears into lizards

[cunning geode]

pals you would not even fathom the levels of gloom i actively seek out from custom doom wads (i am playing a video game inside instead of experiencing life)

[fiery burrow]

No

RW has a brilliant story too

[heady iron]

have you heard of a niche doom wad called myh-

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/234486640305897474/1348055728929247274/vastedge2.gif

[lone crown]

The story:

[fiery burrow]

Everything ties into the gameplay. Even the clunky camera system that separates some rooms into multiple separate screens is meant to simulate the feeling of being a scared animal not knowing what's around the corner

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[lone crown]

Hollow knight needs to do better

A mod where the camera doesn’t follow the knight but when leaving there’s a new screen

[fiery burrow]

See this is like looking up at every ceiling in the Spearmaster campaign trying to discern if you can walk under it without getting instantly murdered by a Dropwig

[valid sable]

https://tenor.com/view/slugcat-rain-world-gif-23392860

[fiery burrow]

If everything is handed to you on a silver platter and everything is "Fair" and "Streamlined" it stops being rewarding and satisfying to play. This is also why Monster Hunter stopped being good after World

[cunning geode]

damn wtf what about rise...

[fiery burrow]

No I love Rise

Thats old MH

[cunning geode]

👹

its the handheld dev team

[fiery burrow]

Speaking of old mh this is mid 🥱

When do I get to fight the big ones

[heady iron]

it'll be a lot easier once ai gets advanced enough

then game devs will have no excuse

[fiery burrow]

ChatGPT write me a new RW dlc

[formal marsh]

i dont get it

[valid sable]

Yes I love extreme tedium of old MH, horrendous menus, carrying pickaxes and whetstones and bait, grinding simple items to be able to fight something, loading between every area, yes very fun totally satisfying

[fiery burrow]

Okay ragebait time is over

Dark Souls sucks

[heady iron]

bait?

[valid sable]

biat has only just begun

[cunning geode]

i really appreciate all the ways Rise has ironed out the tedious aspects of old monstie hunter

[lone crown]

Infinitely better than the real RW

[cunning geode]

while still feeling like its got a lotta depth (Sunbreak)

[fiery burrow]

Rise and Wilds are super smooth its nice

[cunning geode]

is this you playing "monkey see, monkey do" or have you also played Wilds

[fiery burrow]

Wilds has tutorials for the ecology of the areas with those unskippable seikret sections

[heady iron]

it's spelled "secret"

[cunning geode]

omg you wanna be steam friends im blushing

👹 see?

[lone crown]

The hardest thing in MH Wilds is fishing for specific shit

[fiery burrow]

just play TOTK

[lone crown]

Its funny to just fire capture nets into the water

You pick up all the fish but it dont count for that one girl’s sidequests

[fiery burrow]

i hope next zelda has fishing for real though

Buy it legally

Erm

[obsidian owl]

just play WW...

it's better

[fiery burrow]

meh

I love ww as much as the next guy but totk is the goat

[obsidian owl]

i don't like post botw

well i don't like botw either anyway so

[fiery burrow]

Also haven't you not played totk

[heady iron]

botw won goty 2017 what did totk win

that's what I thought

[grand ferry]

why do u have anime girl kingdom 2 in your library

[fiery burrow]

If its all anime girls who is the king

[steady raven]

I have several questions

And I don't want the answers to any of them

[valid sable]

Only tutorial Wilds should give you is "look at everything and figure it out, scrub. Stop being impatient baby needing hand held." In those exact words

[fiery burrow]

Wilds should have a tutorial prompt at the start apologizing for the story and telling you to not pay attention to it

[valid sable]

I'm half serious tho, people should learn to be patient and figure stuff out, very valuable skill

[fiery burrow]

Its the most offensively mediocre story I've ever seen

[valid sable]

Much better than World

[cunning geode]

hot take but if you want your players to experience a story in your video game you should try as hard as possible to make the game and the story feel like they become one and the same

[fiery burrow]

World is okay

"Monster is being mean to the ecosystem kill it :C"

[cunning geode]

the player is instrumental in not just progressing the story, but telling it through their actions

[fiery burrow]

Final boss lore is cool

[cunning geode]

with a game like monster hunter, the gameplay loop makes this difficult

[valid sable]

Wilds did the exact opposite that I want MH to do. I want it to just drop you in and let you figure shit out and do whatever you want from the beginning, that's when the game is the most fun, not carry you from one monster to the other in the most linear fashion

[fiery burrow]

Yeah that kind of pacing is kinda boring imo

[cunning geode]

sounds like they reaaaaally want players to be eased in so they feel like they didnt waste their 70 bucks on a game that is too complicated for them

[fiery burrow]

Rise is quite nice its just doing quests until the occasional story one comes in

[heady iron]

sorry but you're just not the target audience then

[fiery burrow]

I think thats what GU is like too? Not too far into it

[valid sable]

Well stuff before World has hardly any story in the first place, so, lol

Practically no story at all before 4

[fiery burrow]

At least world was focused on the monsters

[cunning geode]

back to my hot take up there - the monsters are the main characters and their personalities are a big part of what makes the franchise enjoyable, because they directly tie into how you should fight each one

[valid sable]

that's the coldest take ever

[opaque sigil]

Worlds has a worse story than wilds because wilds lets you skip cutscenes

[fiery burrow]

shrue

[cunning geode]

the hot take was the previous message that started with "hot take", not what i just sent

[valid sable]

o

[fiery burrow]

thats why I think a tutorial should tell you to respect your time and skip wilds cutscenes

[cunning geode]

i mean it might not be a very hot take still but yknow 👹 to each their own

[valid sable]

Kirb IS the hot take

I hate the smirk emoji

I don't like any emoji face except the upsidedown smile

[fiery burrow]

I miss the old 🥹

[warped rock]

I miss the old kanye

[fiery burrow]

New one conveys a slightly different emotion

This one conveys overwhelming melancholy all the while a subtle terror is gnawing at the back of your mind

The new one is for when you want to cry without using 😭 because that has a different meaning

[valid sable]

[lone crown]

In order to pledge my allegiance

[main helm]

https://tenor.com/view/rb-gif-13678704695843868263

this looks like a silksong character

[lone crown]

I am going to defeat white defender as if you merely started the game from king's' pass (no upgrades or traversal)

[warm mica]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-thats-awesome-wow-gif-14101249

[young saffron]

I miss leth

[serene chasm]

Me too. Its awful that the aliens had to take him

[devout badger]

Only fireball, dreamnail, and a dream?

[carmine island]

He sacrificed himself for us if it wasn’t for him the aliens would’ve wiped us out

[versed pollen]

No fireball or dn either

[loud bridge]

I'm doing insane cope rn

[lone crown]

With none of those but dnail
It was very easy anyways cause you can take damage

But dodging the shit shockwaves without dash or double jump is fun

[devout badger]

Oh lmao

[lone crown]

On paper it sounded like a challenge idk why

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[frozen frigate]

Hey Andy

[main helm]

she take my money

when im in neeeeeeed

yeah shes a triflin

friend indeeeed

[warm mica]

take*

[main helm]

shit i forgot

no way i got that wrong 😭

[warm mica]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-uncomfortable-fucked-up-handshake-kanye-west-gif-17234064

[main helm]

ohhh shes a gold digger

way over time

[devout badger]

You could try wk w only base nail

[lone crown]

Not hard enough

[devout badger]

Absolute radiance?

[lone crown]

Still not enough

Anyrad.

[ancient ridge]

Good game. Loved it.

[devout badger]

And rad 3.0 base nail only 😭

[lone crown]

Even harder: Moss Mother

Infiltrate the HQ

[devout badger]

Honestly tho

Any rad 3.0 plus trial of the fool in colosseum w base nail and 1 hp

That would lwk be too hard

[lone crown]

Markoth’s arena

[devout badger]

Nah peak arena

A floor? Whats that? We got five tiny ahh platforms

[heady iron]

I should make any rad 4

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[lone crown]

Anyzote is a thing

And a similar one for nosk iirc

[devout badger]

True

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-keith-lee-wwe-wtf-gif-18099546

[delicate summit]

GUY STEAM COPYRIGHT UPDATE AND ASSET CHANGES

https://steamdb.info/app/1030300/history/

[neon adder]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[delicate summit]

It’s steam db bro 😭

[neon adder]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabbermegamind2-gif-23461251

[delicate summit]

I’m being serious it’s related to the nvidia stuff look it up separately if you care

[neon adder]

Doubt

[delicate summit]

On my life bro

[neon adder]

Nice try
My IP is my own, thank you

[delicate summit]

lol just look at steam yourself

[neon adder]

Later

Anyway, goodbye chat

[lone crown]

Soooo this means nothing?

Or is this something

Sorry im not a steamdb understander

[neon adder]

It’s an IP grabber

[lone crown]

I have done some research and found that silksong has an appid on geforcenow, something about “category 46”

[harsh yarrow]

Huh

[lone crown]

It’s opted into geforcenow

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/1jih9ex/hollow_knight_silksong_is_opted_in/

[harsh yarrow]

Indeed
Copyright from 2019 to 2025

I doubt it means anything

But... certainly interesting

Yo wait

This is alot
alot alot

well

no
its a banner

[lone crown]

There’s no way it’s not coming this year