#sk-discussion
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i hope so
They should focus all their effort on blogposts
william pellen has been hard at work on the hole
Thanks i was just about to give up
Its beacuse they fucking dropped the teaser trailer, the demo and went to hawai
jk
Just all promises and zero content
they should start vlogging
and not even dev anymore
just
full day vlogs
mb
"Where's Silksong, William?"
"It's in the hole."
yes
hey gang this is william pellen here i'm drinking straight ethanol in the nevada desert oh shit is that a military base
yes
What kind
To Csurran cseppen
Only leth says hey gang. Fake fan.
a decent amount of different genres
Fuck yeah I love
Favorite artist?
@south portal I also want to add that job descriptions are descriptive, not prescriptive, meaning that you figure out the job description that best fits what you have to do, rather than a job description dictating what you need to do.
To further compound on Leth's particular situation, he also stated he doesnt want to do all of his job by himself, because he is just a contractor, and he doesnt want to leave team cherry stranded when his contract ends, so he is also letting team cherry handle, and teaching them how to handle, crucial parts of his job.
(Sorry for the ping i just wanna make sure youre informed)
yes
Didnt know he made music
hes fire
TC should announce that they’ll be giving away all copies of silksong for free when it releases as penance for their lack of communication and then stop working on the game entirely
Thought he was busy being the reason for 2 world wars
The Archduke of Austria? How is he making music? He died!
One
would reccommend 'this fffire' if you want to listen to a song
wait someone already made this joke god damn it
it lives up to its name
no problem thx for taking the time to teach me
RIDING IN MY GNX CAUSE IT'S GON BE A
I too watched cyberpunk edgerunners
I wish everyone was willing to learn this haha
PEAK
Aint they making a new cpunk comic
Soon
I refuse to believe an argument in #sk-discussion ended with a peaceful resolution and an acknowledgement of ignorance. You are a paid actor.
cunk? cunk on britain mentioned
bro what is this place really that toxic im kinda new
this is an ip grabber dont trust it
What is your opinion on Belgian techno anthem Pump up the Jam
no its just a running joke that were all bad
joke?
there's a few bad actors but if you avoid me and other people it's a relatively peaceful experience
goated
missclicked an accidently joined a vc with 4 ppl😭
alr ill block u
Im gonna put this on while doing a set so whether i like it or not im locked into listening
yeah like me
"why do we even have that channel" type shit
No this is just a bad time
it's a bit
theres two people you really want to avoid here
sluggish
Sans undertale
holdon
kirbstar and starpengu
dont trust either of them
Also people are sick of arguing in general so theyre used to yelling at anyone
RAHH NO NEWS
@violet path go with this one
no fucking way
why no soundboard in vc
yo guys can i be super stupid for a sec
i am very sad
Knock me out
no
There's three people you want to avoid here: kirbstar, starpengu, and that rat bastard lpritchett46. Also, don't trust anyone with an orange name.
no fun allowed
Let's just say that people sharing gripes with team cherry here rarely react well when their gripes are challenged
Its hard to be stupider than me unless you hate dark chocolate
Alright done
Why would you do this to me
I wanted to jumpskare someone and it didnt work
sluggish
feels good to have none of my opps here
i said sluggish right after that
wth was the cake thing? ik it was like dev account? but like why did it say that? was it even a dev?
shitpost
it was a joke
im so misinformed it insane
Ok ill explain
it was a dev's personal account
Basically
and he shitposts on it
not at all related to ss btw
that's it
master of shitposts strikes again
people who blew it out of proportion got shot btw each and every one of them
shitposting on main while deving the most anticapated game ever is nasty nasty work
That was wilbo, he used to work on the dev team before he crashed out on November 17th, 2021 and doxxed Ari
that's the best part
generational crashout
WHAT
whenever chat becomes about the dev process it's so funny
imma need a lore recap
assumption games
I remember someone justifying it with shit like "We would still care if Trump said he would nuke all of europe even if it was on @realDonaldTrump and not @POTUS".
they're playing with you
It is from the real dev, this account was not really heard of at all and was a minor bit of trivia here, on a random basis he’d say random subliminal jokes which held zero meaning
One of these jokes “Something big is coming. Keep your eyes closed” (a joke since it says “closed”) was greatly misinterpreted and spread like wildfire thanks to HK content creators, making this account a more known phenomenon
wtf 😭
thats so funny lmao
It was a dev's account.
However.
It was a personal shitpost account. It does not say or advertise anywhere that that is his account. The only way you will find out is by coincidence or if someone who knows tells you. That account is exlusively used for esoteric shitposting, it has never been used as the personal account of William Pellen, and never been used for anything else than shitposting.
that would actually be so funny
i am going to nuke all of europe
and i am ann
Like it was by all accounts, a secret account
it was a BASED account
based on what ?
so basically
everyone got tricked cus silksong fans dont have third grade level reading comprehension
Precisely
Basically
ip hrtabber
i typoed hrt???? that's awesome
it is a fucking youtube link
if every single person with silksong on their wishlist was killed the average iq would increase by 10
Everyone got tricked because the youtubers who revealed the "secret" did not really specify or illistrate the context behind the account. People just heard "the developer tweeted this"
yeah i think it would really wsgflsdahjbgopjaHfurjewfgbhyefewhf
why does it have a punctiouation in the middle of "youtube" then
clearly a ip grabber
true
yep
its a fake touybe
youtubeh
So i think it's totally Fireborn's fault for that whole fiasco
We should throw fireb0rn into a wood chipper
A portion yeah
my 🐐 bobfred
Sacrifice fireb0rn for silksong.
unbelievably true
Like it was definitely irresponsible to present it like that
Ancient roman Hit Lists but instead of high ranking senators and political figures it's everyone in r/silksong
But fireborn did contribute the most to mass “huh something is happening”
What did he do?
for a sacrifice it should be somebody we value
griffith this is ur one chance to redeem urself

Instead of deleting the video he unlisted it 
Still viewable
do ppl dislike fireborn?
Of course. Matthew Griffin!
i cant believe i thought this would be a problem
me when i am at a blowing it out of proportion challenge and my opponents are HK youtubers and your mom
I liked him in like 2021
cotton probably does LOL
Like it cannot be stressed how many people have a negative view of team cherry for "tricking" the fans maliciously, without knowing the context. Its everywhere in comments.
nah but like what he do wrong specifically
justice for cottonmoon!!!!!!!!!!!
When will Silksong realease?
Shitty game. Shitty sequel. Shitty dev team.
2
Tomorrow.
Realistically probably sometime in february this year
me dunno
coming out tommorow leth said it himself
He basically made the video about the cake tweet without sufficiently explaining the context behind it, and imo even if he did it was wrong to make a video on it.
how do we tell him
Funny how SS fanbase would sacrifice anything and everything for even a small piece of info.
probably doesnt care, and he rebeat r5
Mfs think this is the fireb0rn complaint channel
ah damn so basically nothing horrible?
It is
2041
cotton alt acc
when wont ss release
right now check steam
cotton is 🐐
I’ve been here for a long time solely cause of the wait and the feeling of waiting together with a bunch of random fucks
Once this place becomes the next #hk-discussion it wont have that same feel anymore. I’ll probably still stick around to discuss any lore/tech but not even close to as-frequently, maybe like 6 months after release
it is
Well it did contribute to a lot of people being mad at TC for a bad reason. It is a bad thing he did, doesnt mean hes a bad person or anything
mistakes happen i figure
this place will suck so much after silksong releases
we need to open a seperate channel for us to go to when ss comes out
i hope they add a whole new section for silksong and keep this as an offtopic channel
off topic 2 👁️
oh there was fire discussion
it's always fire discussion when i'm here babe
I think he’s lame and it’s funny to make fun of his content
it would destroy the server ecosystem if our little bubble was popped
Also i’m not interested in fearless fox solely because by the time it releases i’d be fucking 28 or something 
i dislike fireborn cause im water type 💧🚰🚿
And id have moved on from silly games
the only good hk streamer is skurry
when fearless fox releases i'll be getting my masters degree fuckkkkkkkk
unc.
funny shit
epic sauce
when fearless fox releases i'd be working lmaooooooo
is there anyone in this community that u should like actively avoid btw? the SS community got some bad rep but i honestly havent figured out why exactly (except those who hate on team cherry, im sure like 60% of that is ragebait tho)
And yet, you are interested in silksong.
Imagine trying to make a living off of only Hollow Knight content
everyone
me
Because its a sequel to HK duh
i looove swearing but i fear we'll have to strangle vivienne medrano if we want to keep swearing cool
or a prequel
how old are you
i am 2
but u got a nine sols pfp, u cant be bad

no pelase no ban
my account got banned from discord cause i said things like this
im 100% serious
Youtuber named Primacon but hinestly i dont think there is any one person prolific enough that sticks around (Primacon is an ok guy i bet but i find it disgusting and harmful how he gets silksong fans riled up and he promotes the bad mentality and appeals to it by constantly making silksong videos about nothingburgers)
AVOID THE SUBREDDIT LIKE IT HAS AIDS IN IT
were all pretty nice tbh
nooooooooooooooooooooooooo he gives me my news when there really is none
Walking past Primacon fans with real Silksong videos like Cadaea
And yeah the silksong subreddit is very toxic do avoid it
If vivziepop wrote Hollow Knight:
No FUCKING mind to think
No will to FUCKING break
No voice to cry SHIT FUCK PISS DAMN IT
You shall seal the FUCKING light that haunts their FUCKING dreams
You are the FUCKING vessel.
You are the FUCKING Hollow Knight.
thats not very nice to say
Nothing if value is there
conflicting messages here
"we" relates to this channel tbh
Primacon is like neutral, he promotes the silksanity but crosses the line at genuinely stupid shit
The discord is fine...mostly. The subreddit is a place not to be touched.
the subreddit should be treat like it is highly radioactive
But yeah he creates slop content
Yeah but promoting it is bad imo and he still caters to the bad crowd.
This subreddit is not a subreddit of honor type shit
what did fireborn even do lol
i once held a geiger counter to my pc for fun while browsing r/silksong and it exploded
Breathe
dont you dare diss my glorious king pyrocynical
silksanity is just stupid shitposts no?
The primacon in question https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1esxw0z/team_cherry_has_abandoned_their_fans_and_its_sad/
im not like his #1 fan or anything i just wanna know if he did smth or yall just dislike him because you do
Wasnt there some controversy with that guy or am I misremembering
hes the 🐐
embed fail
Okay what the fuck i take that back
it's lame stupid shitposts
Its impossible to take this dude seriously
He made the first video about the cake incident which had a bad impact on the outlook of the fanbase on team cherry for a wrong reason
impact? like evangelion?
lol jk thanks
not a joke btw
Forgive me for assuming sincerity
the most unfunny person you know irl is frustrated about a video game and to vent that frustration is pretending to be insane on reddit
high schoolers are doing this instead of shooting up drugs and alcohol at parties
im sorry i was being sincere
Honestly ara’s also been baiting in recent dssn but you didn’t hear that from me
<@&283547423706447872> 
nsfw
Not on my wholesome Christian server
pronouns in bio shut up
how does quirrel die exactly? does he just fall over once u leave the blue lake? like why would e just die randomly?
is it even that bad
No comment bro, lol
Any direct mention of nsfw is not allowed
Did @twilit vector not say the same thing two messages above me
Sexual content whatsoever is banned because thats really dangerous to discuss with strangers online if you are a minor
please do not refer to nsfw here
This is internet safety 101 bro
Same applies to them id imagine
nah
the reason is unknown and not that important. its most likely he just fades away or smth similar
i was misguided
hello joker
I didn’t allocate any of my income to accidental death or dismemberment insurance at my job
"ye he died idk why just roll with it man"
You know what honestly fair enough I can admit fault for that one.
this also a weird ass thing to say ngl
thats not what i said no
But yeah pyrocynical controversy is just he's weird but not in a harmful way
I don't even have pronouns in my bio 
ye ik
Did they finish discussing silkso...oh they didn't..alriiiight..
i think the they them with the they them pronoun role was being ironic about it joker
NSFW
Quirrel going and living a happy life would neuter his whole character arc.
Quirrel is sent off with the key to a seal, called back to hallownest as a old warrior, explores and begins to appreciate its former beauty, relives his old life in his new one, fulfills his purpose in old age, and then moves on from a long and fulfilling journey goes adventuring backstage.
it was a joke because everybody here has their pronouns in their bio
woah dude wtf ?? mods
Quirrel probably died of old age
Not me
just meant thats how it felt when he died, no explanation
I’m not woke like them
Impossible. Irony does not exist.
Fucked up
Tldr quirrel is a great character partly and specifically because he dies and dies ambiguously
ok and
bad precedent
actually i like him cus he sits with u on the bench
irony is forbidden here
yea the game isnt gonna explicitly show everything
i don't even wanna know
ye its just hes my fav and i wanna know what happened to him
anyway
u cant rly say whatever u want bc its a joke/ironic 
Does this guy just like... survive off of water?
bro died
America reference?
don’t eat Oreos don’t eat Burger King don’t eat cranberries don’t eat mayonnaise
Plain rice and boiled chicken
oxygenarian
i can when it doesnt harm anybody and is very clearly ironic
he suggests himself reasons as well, such as his age
he turned old 💔
but why did he die exactly? he seemed fine at uumuu
lost his purpose in life is how i understood it
End of his story
Lived well
he doesn't sound fine AFTER uumuu
I never understand why people do that. Like, seasoning your fucking food will not hurt your gains, and I say this as a white guy.
I like the theory that Quirrel was basically living on borrowed time protected by the mask and after he removed it, his debt caught up with him and he just disappeared
bro just live stupid ass quirell
an argument between these 11 would be hilarious 🤣
so he turned to dust ??
What is my goat howtobasic doing there
Or something
got thanos snapped
Burst into essence like seer
apandah?? memeulous?? my goats
I only know two of these people and I am eternally grateful for that
theyre holding him hostage
It’s good for the soul kinda
Perhaps for some people the flavor of rice and chicken are sufficient for their tastes.
no way this is a serious response 
Neither does the food so like
What’s the problem
Eminems pretty cool
That’s fucking bullshit
the response of 'yes jokes should be allowed when they dont hurt anybody??'
Idk maybe its not. Whats bland for you might be tasty to someone else.
Boiled chicken and plain rice isn’t anyone’s preferred anything
It’s just easy to turn into routine
Cheap, simple, convenient
Lasts long in a Tupperware
Alright I have a fuckload of homework to do. If you see me on this server in the next 3 hours please bully me off of it.
the texture of boiled chicken makes me feel ill
That’s what the rice is for
I personally cant stand bland food
i reckon when that stupid red no turns into a green yes the entire world will stand still
If i had a choice i wouldnt be able to eat that
plain rice is pretty good though
I’m more a grilled chicken man myself tbh
the chicken is the issue
But i know people in my family who enjoy things that to me have too little flavor, while flavors i enjoy are too strong for them.
I like it
Sometimes im not in the mood for some crazy flavoring
Ara when he wants a new lamborghini: hmm, I should change today’s dssn title to say “Yes, but…”
salubras blessing is the WORST thing in HK and u CANT say otherwise
Sometimes i want to sit at a bench and watch and then OHHHHOHOHOHOOOOOOO
No the worst thing is definitely zote's babbling
those flukes that split into two enemies are the real worst
i hate them so much
that isnt an answer and not equivalent to the original premise 
waterways are so irrelevant they dont annoy you
I love deepnest
i literally have pronouns in my bio it is very obvious that its a joke
I hate deepnest
Pronouns in bio, ignored
banned
Say it like you mean it
I HATE DEEPNEST
the question isnt if its a joke, just if the argumentation given was serious
Deepnest level design is PEAK metroidvania.
There are two ways to enter deepnest in a Typical playthrough:
The fungal wastes floor drop, and the mantis lords gate.
The gate immediately presents a corpse pile of scary looking bugs, and a few of the design choices deepnest makes regarding spikes, geo, basically setting the theme for the area- placing the player on guard
The fungal wastes entrance takes the player by surprise, drops them into a creepy crawly pit, and puts the player on guard
Both these entrances make it clear what you’re getting into.
Both these entrances hand you cornifers laughably unfinished map with his dialogue.
Both these places present the player with a choice to exit, or press on into deepnest while they have been put on guard
This is immensely important, because this state of caution (Not Fear) is what defines the core of the deepnest exploration loop, and presents every design choice in deepnest as a unique take on the “casually wandering” of HK.
If you choose to press on into deepnest, after all the above warnings and clues, the game will plunge you fully into the area, dropping you into the hot spring (after teasing Nosk)
Then there’s the whole rest of deepnest. Think about all of these items, in the context of “the player is on their guard, they know they’re in danger, how do we keep them engaged, and keep this massive area fresh”
Design elements employed in the deepnest exploration loop:
-Enemies that resurrect
-ever changing background room art. Deepnest is secretly composed of nothing but sub areas, but you can’t tell because every 2 rooms has a new little tweak or theme attached to it.
(See the sets of rooms leading up to and including tram/village/galien/Nosk/garpede/basin/queens)
-Massive size coupled with high reward density. Deepnest exploration is taxing but TC made it rewarding, and then they let you do a shitload of it. Progress in an environment so hostile is thus so much more concrete.
GUH
but the argument WASNT given as serious
did chatgpt whip this up for you?
There is an argument to be made that normalizing such jokes leads to overall worse outcomes, but the people who say the most offensive jokes about queers are the most queer people i know so honestly im not sure
nah tbh the first time i played, i was so scared to go into deepnest i stopped playing for a full week
I wrote it myself. Cause I grew up not cheating
whats bro on about
its scary and dark which means it SUCKS
plus no good boss
Nosk is pretty good
take an english class
ah its the twitter guy
And most overworld bosses are thematically focused
tf did i kmiss
thats not a productive response
Honestly deepnest was apparently supposed to be a good chunk larger byt they had to cut it because of time constraints, i would really love to see what they had planned for it
and yours was??
Rip giant spider boss
You’re thinking about the hive
insane hypocrisy
only dreamer not to have a boss
yes, absolutely. why wouldnt it be
The area is the boss
bad premise
least obvious ragebait tbh
And that doesn’t alter the level design
ss-discussion users try not to argue about literally every single thing challenge (possible, if you tried, holy shit)
That too, but i remember someone saying that they said in an interview that deepnest was gonna be larger
Plus what are we comparing it to. Uumuu? Watcher knights?
<@&283547423706447872>
toxic
The giant spider boss in some trailer definitely got cut at least
Yeah
sans undertale
uumuu is ass watcher knights are great
what
eh
what ?
Minimum
do it
looking for ingot ?
istg
please
Someone do it
like minecraft ?
Two kids are ruining it for the rest of the class pretty please timeout one or both
@marsh ibex 
please ban us all
no !
Me when I have to do the job I signed up for
yes
nop guys !
Joker forgive them. They are but children
this isn't you !
literally unplayable, i hate this discord server
this isn't thte #sk-discussion i love !
The only one who has the right to forgive is God.
I am but an arbiter of the law
so true
i don't love this channel either
silksong släpps imorn tro mig
what
anyways stop arguing about what I said to not do be quiet
We were talking about characters that died earlier
i respect it
bro what
technically grubfather never dies on screen
Yeah
wait what the hell
This list format is ass
Do you think his kids will just burst out or will they eat out
I’m just running out of lists to steer the convo
aren't like half of these alive at the end of the game
It’s a pop for sure
burst
What proof do we have of Ogrim dying wtf? Just cause he leaves after 5 WD wins doesn’t mean he’s dead right
Perhaps they eat each other
if you use ddark on grubfather he should burst
I think it would be really funny
These are meant to be characters that don’t die
he's just chilling in the other room
lmao.
But the list is garbage
Wait im stupid
So some actually do die
I saw a few that do die
like DD just goes to palace grounds
No, I literally have characters that do die
And iw as like oh this is about dead characters
The list sucks
DD ? descending dark ?
nah he just has a mental breakdown because he keeps dreaming about this small weird-ass vessel defeating him for a week straight
trust me
Why is bardoon and Oro here? Or midwife. Or fluke hermit. Or divine. Or jiji. Or Ogrim
I do however think the list works because the emotions are correct
Nah he likes that actually
“Gallantly reacts to being defeated”
Because the tier they are in would describe how I feel like if they died
Ohh i see
P sure that’s in his journal entry
okay good i
Already?
i thought you were talking about something else
Or just the story?
Ah yes tutorial is over
Exactly
Now the real game begins
I hope Ogrim just moved on and stopped dwelling on the past and hiding in a dead kingdom, it gave me that vibe in his dialogue before leaving
I fucking hate nata in the first 3 chapters of the story
But we’ll never know
that's a really nice perspective! i haven't seen much argumentation on what ogrim does, since he's not really an integral part of the game
I am currently still on ||Jin Dahaad|| but i also hate Nata up until this point
He gets better over the story but is still miserable
You aren’t gonna be a hunter lil bro
I also think it was a bit awkwardly explained that ||several years have passed between the scene where they found him and the scene where we begin the expedition||
Yea
maintenance guy
It's the noise you make when you enter the circus for the first time
Also || he goes from hating arkveld for destroying his village to being it’s best fucking friend||
Oh! Grimm
Why in the hell does he go on quests with us bro is like 5
wait...both ogrim and grimm are red...
ohhhhhhhhh
That's the only logical conclusion
YES
n
Also i just yesterday realized that ||the Arkveld from the demo is likely the original, real Arkveld. Non-Guardian||
I feel you'd like that because you're a "Hegamol is the" fan and also an Ogrim fan, it just makes sense
hedgemol
Yea do we not fight it later?
has anybody drawn what hegemol could've looked like without his armour for funsies
I actually triple carted on it lol
What weapon u using
Then uh
Maggot
But it was very late so i probably was just tired and performing poorly
Maggot is in fact the Ogrim
Insect glaive peak
Why do you think he lives with them
Also insect glaive is strong
You don't say the Hegemol
It probably is but i mained IG in sunbreak and it was so easy compared to all other weapons i had basically never learned any monster moveset
me in 4u 
So it ended up with me unable to succeed with anything else
Like for real my heavensent insect glaive set in sunbreak is so goddamn strong and easy to use
it's pretty strong in wilds too
HERE’s the original #hk-lore message
Not as strong im sure because no kinsect slash
uuuuh you'd maybe be surprised 
Helicopter actually has a long enough animation to allow you to get hit sometimes
Kinsect slash is not only instant and aimed but it also has iframes
and you can kinda chain focus strikes
they have unique properties I haven't used it enough to really know how interesting
Ok
Cause the sunbreak ones were really great
Kinsects are a great avenue for playstyle variation to emerge in IG
If the devs actually explore it
you don't have the powder/assist/speed but each kinsect has traits
So I was RIGHT
I stay winning
And slaying
Yeah i figured as much but idk how impactful those traits are
idk either
Ideally the kinsect would make the difference between choosing aerial or grounded style
Lance is really great in wilds
Insane glowup
I’m having trouble getting damage out of it
If you let an attack actually hit your shield you do the least damage
Counter intuitive
But yeah i didn't realise that
Also power guard into retribution thrust is good
Or perfect guard into a finisher
yeah I've been doing that, it's easier to get off than charge counter
The damage from lance comes from never having downtime
it's not like I don't have any clue how to use lance, I've hunted arkveld with it, it's just slower than other weapons for me atm
Yeah its got some caveats and feels sluggish despite how mobile it actually is
adding the charge to my offense def helped
Also midthrust combo is faster than high thrust
So thats someting to consider during openings
I usually use high thrust
But in openings i use leaping thrust into sweep inti high thrust into either triple poke or charge counter
mid
Yes
I see
It deals a bit more damage per poke, but is slightly slower to execute
WHAT
well triple thrust combo does let you guard faster so probably still better when the monster is a threat
i dont actually think High Thrust has different MVs than Mid Thrust
You can do mid mid high thrust since the 3rd poke deals more damage
It does
stabbing the head is also good 
Yes
🤓
My biggest issue with lance so far is turning
I have done some gunlance, it's fun but it's basically 75% fumbling 25% relentless super hits
GunLance felt super awkward to me in rise and world
wyrmstake full blast spam
I didn't understand the combo strings
gunlance in general was always at least a little awkward tbh
They felt very unintuitive
This is obviously said by Deleted User, and not you, smh 🙄
at the end of the day in wilds you can shelling -> moving wide sweep -> [various calamitous bullshit for the monster]
overhead smash getting worked in is nice but not super necessary
perfect guard into sweeping fullburst my beloved
Id describe it like. Playing gunlance feels like piloting a tank or a mech, but not in a game but irl fiddling with controls and levers
also wyvern fire is super satisfying and I think focus mode helps a lot with like aiming your shit
you could
yeah
Gunlance honestly is probably just objectively better because your shells scale damage now
@rustic ore consult the graph
what
I've also been pleasantly surprised by bowguns, hbg in particular is a blast and I like that the loop can incorporate mounted combat pretty well
muffin what does this mean
ride and shoot > get off and ignition gun the monster > climb back on and shoot normally
That's weird because i heard from prolific bowgun mains that they hate it because they lost like half the features
well I'm not a bowgun main 
Fair
idk
But yeah they did get giganerfed
It’s pretty obvious
I can tell it's streamlined in some respects but I don't really mind it?
Not being able to improve recoil and reload is a huge nerf
pengu vs you in ultrakill leaderboards?
recoil was only really an issue with lbg in rapid fire mode for me
and reload isn't exactly slow so 
nuh uh
Is Lance even stronger now in wild ?
Well depends on bowgun, but higher recoils and reload means lower dps
Peng beat me in the ultrakill leaderboard so I had to delete his steam account it’s for the best
I heard many things about lance (never played monster hunter)
in the wilds
Same thing (surely)
youre lucky i dont show off my tas skills
some ppl would jump you for that i think
ignition mode turns the hbg into a proper machine gun which is great
Previously different bowguns would have different recoil and reload for the same ammos, now theyre all tied to the ammo itself
Ultrakill tas would be crazy and I’d love to see that
throws 7 coins
So basically now certain ammos dont have a niche anymore
I'm not a main I've just been messing around a bit 
Also for some reason the mods for bowguns only affect the basic 3 raw ammos and elementals
So any playstyle that isnt those is less viable
they also affect ignition mode for hbg or special ammo for lbg
speaking of raw ammo the HBG main i know specifically uses Normal 3
And pierce basically got buffed above everything else
Yeah but i was talking about regular ammo
the raw ammos are pretty good it seems like?
at least with hbg
Normals are always rapidfire now
i mean he's always only ever used normal 3s
and he's like
Pierce is the best now
seems like a weird choice to never use elemental shots but whatever
nobody be playing mh that much
pierce is pretty good
Spread dethroned
pierce makes funny popcorn noises
pierce? elden ring reference
therefore i welcome our new piercing overlords
I tend to just empty my entire bowgun before swapping to pierce and using that until either the monster flees or I have a good chance to mass reload
For some reason spread doesnt have critical distance at point blank anymore, but normal does
spread crit distance not being point blank quite literally makes zero sense
wait why arent you pink anymore it still says youre server boosting
Its slightly out from point blank but it seems like a balance decision to curb shield spread builds
thats like saying "take this SPAS-12. if you shoot them at point blank range they wont die, so stand back and do it"
I sorta see a point?
nitro ran out
Also Ballistics now only extends outer critical distance, not inner
😔
as i typed it i started to slightly understand
like more pellets hits more of an area
but concentrated fire on one specific part is best at extremely close range so
Them hitting a smaller area is still probably better tho
it's more interesting to try to keep the monster in front of you at a close distance than to just stand between its legs and shoot
when do we get Sniper Ammo that isnt Wyvernsnipe
I hated bowguns in rise because
oh and you can also do focus blasts from your seikret which is fun
Ranged weapons force u to use different controls
And in World you can have conflicting controls
I want a slew of heavy shots from long range that don't do the Pierce thing but instead do 1 instance of damage and hit like a train
Wyvernsnipe would be the big kahuna and it just does what it do best
But in rise and wilds you cant have the same buttons for different things even when you cant do those things at the same time (you can for some things in wilds but not rise)
I play kb+m
Question im on steam i saw on like google that there were DLC's but all i see is gods n Nightmares
bow is also a blast
yeah MH on KBM is cursed in my experience
I love the fucking magnet arrow
Basically in rise it was awkward because you dont always aim the gun and aiming gun and wirebug had to be different buttons
like why is LS Spirit Combo on MOUSE 4
magnet?? frontier reference???
I do special attack (guard, spirit combo, etc.) on Ctrl
theyre included for free in main game
E or R for item use, Q for item wheel
thanks
np
I am also left handed and use left hand for mouse
suplexes you cutely
I press spacebar with the palm of my hand
left handed mouse what the fuck
im left handed and thats cursed as fuck what do you MEAN
Im too used to it any other control scheme just doesnt work for me
I guess when i started using the pc nobody told me to use mouse with my right hand
And i was already left handed so i figured, yknow
thank you
i dont even have the words ngl
🙏
It is genuinely very uncomfortable to me to use a controller
Its very easy im used to it
There is something very satisfying about usin the hbg guard to tank a ohko attack and just burst through with wyvernheart active like the heavy from tf2
Large surface area
where did you spawn from
they should make mirrored controllers im surprised they dont already
Poland
ah
They barely make mirrored mice
blud ditched swaxe for HEAVY BOW GUN
Left handed mice are rarely produced and most are super expensive
I HAVE NOT
yeah right buddy
you can switch the inputs cant you? or are you talking about ones with side buttons
I’M USING A BUNCH OF SHIT I AM A SWAXE MAIN
Beware the pipeline
That and also a lot of mice are asymmetrical
I also dont switch left vs right click
O use middle finger for left click
And pointer for right click
Its still left and right click
its just weird for me
Well yeah naturally
no wait i just tried that
it is so close to making sense but then you said middle finger is left click instead of right click
In the left hand?
Idk if I’ve ever seen you this riled up
When you put your fingers on the buttons, middle is on the left and pointer is on the right
Star questioned my loyalty to the goat
i know that, i tried it the way you said
Its easier in my brain to understand it that way than to switch
it's still weird bc in that instance i would just mirror the functions
Left is left
i mean if it works for you
Its the only way ive done it my whole life
but holy mother of god thats a lore bomb i wasnt ready to deal with
flashbanged by mouse buttons
wait this begs the question
do left handed mice auto-switch the left and right click buttons' functions?
As i said they're hard to get
And most are very expensive VERTICAL mice for some reason
ergonomics' sake apparently
Like 90% of asymmetrical mice dont sell a left handed variant
losing out on a big market
Ive just been using a symmetrical mouse or just using a right handed mouse with my left hand
But i switched that one after a while
I actually only realized like last 2 years or so that using mouse in the left hand is unusual
have you ever actually tried switching the inputs
I never thought about it before
valid
honestly im coming up with a similar price range for the mice (a couple of these are right handed but ignore that)
they seem to come close to matching the prices of their right handed variants
Yeah it didnt work out too well
maybe thats just bc im in america or smth. smth to do with shipping
i think i have a razer basilisk last i checked
hang on
Only one of these is left handed
The one for 180
i mean three are symmetrical so who knows
the one on the far left is left handed
Lefties deserve to pay more for being evil sinners
No
also i was nor aware of that lmao
Oh wait maybe it is
the one for 180 isnt though so youre still right
Yeah the buttons are on the right so it is left handed
????????
Since you press those with ur thumb
clicky 😍
I misread the price i meant the one for 39
Actually i goofed the last one is left handed too
i thought that was for your thumb to rest on
Yeah left handed mouse are most often not for gaming but for like, office work
yeah the one on the far right is still right handed. looks a lot like mine
I thought so too but its actually not
damn
180 is a right handed mouse
It has buttons on the left
thats where your palm rests
honestly. Gaming mice are overrated anyways. All those extra buttons arent that useful
buttons on the left are for your thumb
Some of the flaps are for your thumb and some are for your palm
true you really only need a couple extra buttons
I’ve been running logitech office mice for over a decade
I just want one extra button that i can press easily
2 extra buttons is fine but the dealbreaker is just being a decent size
logitech makes good mice.
So wait mice 2 and 5 are the only left handed ones
more than like 3 extra buttons and it’s a moba player thing
i do get a lot of use outta two extra buttons for my thumb though
I bought a wired mouse because i got tired of the battery running out but the cable is stiff and it makes using it annoying too
In all honesty the main thing holding back light mode is the font
i get a li'l use outta them as a RoR2 player :3
People’s messages are the least easy thing to read
Ah yes i confused it again lol
lmao
Yeah yeah
melee and grenades for halo, sr50 setups for doom
what do you mean tho
It’s literally the least accentuated text
genuinely is there a way to turn off grimmchilds disgusting obnoxious mewling
he doesnt shut up
i have heal and teleports set to mouse 4 and 5
Unequip garbage to disable garbage
the only way to shut grimmchild up is to not use him
no you just have to remove the grimmchild charm
😭 I just wanted to hunt a rathian
im doing the flames unfortunately
what happened tmamo
another rathian and a rathalos
spoilers jeez how was i supposed to know there is gonna be a rathian in wilds
rath brought the whole harem 
If a hunt goes wrong what stops you from leaving
Out of curiosity
Does “going wrong” just mean takes longer then
I wanna ask. what is the gameplay loop of MH?
yes
Don’t use him
He is garbage
takes longer, more dangerous, more annoying
doing flames
Hunt monster for new gear, use gear on monster hunt, repeat
this is nothing though I once was hunting an arkveld and for like five minutes another arkveld showed up and stuck around
Fight monster to get materials for better gear to fight stronger monster
You hunt monsters
are the monsters always in the world or do you have to choose which ones to go after
Both
Rathian is annoying enough with her penchant for pain train and poison tactics. throw in a second one, it's hell. throw in RathaLOS (the male) and it's the same thing, but FLYING
Idk about wilds specifically
I actually really like wilds rathalos
so you should ideally start up a quest hunting a specific one if you want that one
There are several locales, and monsters live in specific ones. Usually a given monster will always be in its locale
Raths tend to like forests
You can also yeah, go to a quest board to choose a specific quest to fight a specific monster
being in the air makes focus attacks more dependent on taking advantage of opportunities he gives and his big fire aoes make seikrets less of a 'get out of danger free'
Certain monsters arent bound to one locale and can be all over
Turn off volume idk
normally you would find him in the Elder's Recess or Wildspire Waste
might try
however
But when you view the world map you can see what monster is in each locale, there can be 3 or 4 at once in one locale
Bazel does not give a shit
Bazel goes where he pleases
he can be found on literally any map
got rid of the little rat
King shit
i can finally use mark of pride again
Also bazel is my favourite monster
Bazelgeuse is literally coded to respond to active battle and dive straight into it headfirst
Something i noticed is that he almost always misses the 180 aerial fire sweep

