#sk-discussion

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oblique musk
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Is this why Silksong is taking so long???? Is there just a massive fucking hole in Adelaide????

heady iron
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They should focus all their effort on blogposts

twilit vector
violet path
crude field
heady iron
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Just all promises and zero content

cedar trench
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and not even dev anymore

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just

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full day vlogs

oblique musk
violet path
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Anyone here listen to

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Uh music

leaden delta
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SO TRUE

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This is too fire

twilit vector
cedar trench
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hey gang this is william pellen here i'm drinking straight ethanol in the nevada desert oh shit is that a military base

atomic sparrow
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yes

violet path
crude field
oblique musk
twilit vector
oblique musk
violet path
twilit vector
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probably franz ferdinand atm

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maybe arctic monkeys

brittle garnet
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@south portal I also want to add that job descriptions are descriptive, not prescriptive, meaning that you figure out the job description that best fits what you have to do, rather than a job description dictating what you need to do.
To further compound on Leth's particular situation, he also stated he doesnt want to do all of his job by himself, because he is just a contractor, and he doesnt want to leave team cherry stranded when his contract ends, so he is also letting team cherry handle, and teaching them how to handle, crucial parts of his job.
(Sorry for the ping i just wanna make sure youre informed)

violet path
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Uh

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Like

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The archduke of austria?

twilit vector
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yes

violet path
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Didnt know he made music

twilit vector
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hes fire

heady iron
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TC should announce that they’ll be giving away all copies of silksong for free when it releases as penance for their lack of communication and then stop working on the game entirely

violet path
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Thought he was busy being the reason for 2 world wars

oblique musk
twilit vector
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would reccommend 'this fffire' if you want to listen to a song

oblique musk
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wait someone already made this joke god damn it

twilit vector
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it lives up to its name

south portal
cedar trench
heady iron
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I too watched cyberpunk edgerunners

brittle garnet
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I wish everyone was willing to learn this haha

violet path
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Aint they making a new cpunk comic

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Soon

oblique musk
twilit vector
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cunk? cunk on britain mentioned

cedar trench
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get on this gas

south portal
twilit vector
oblique musk
twilit vector
heady iron
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joke?

cedar trench
south portal
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missclicked an accidently joined a vc with 4 ppl😭

cedar trench
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t

violet path
oblique musk
lone crown
twilit vector
cedar trench
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sluggish

heady iron
cedar trench
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holdon

twilit vector
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kirbstar and starpengu

twilit vector
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dont trust either of them

lone crown
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Also people are sick of arguing in general so theyre used to yelling at anyone

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RAHH NO NEWS

cedar trench
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I AM ALWAYS RIGHT

naive geode
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why no soundboard in vc

south portal
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yo guys can i be super stupid for a sec

naive geode
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i am very sad

lone crown
twilit vector
oblique musk
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There's three people you want to avoid here: kirbstar, starpengu, and that rat bastard lpritchett46. Also, don't trust anyone with an orange name.

woeful matrix
brittle garnet
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Let's just say that people sharing gripes with team cherry here rarely react well when their gripes are challenged

lone crown
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Its hard to be stupider than me unless you hate dark chocolate

heady iron
violet path
naive geode
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I wanted to jumpskare someone and it didnt work

cedar trench
twilit vector
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feels good to have none of my opps here

cedar trench
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i said sluggish right after that

south portal
south portal
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im so misinformed it insane

cedar trench
brittle garnet
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Basically

cedar trench
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and he shitposts on it

woeful matrix
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not at all related to ss btw

cedar trench
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that's it

twilit vector
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master of shitposts strikes again

cedar trench
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people who blew it out of proportion got shot btw each and every one of them

south portal
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shitposting on main while deving the most anticapated game ever is nasty nasty work

heady iron
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That was wilbo, he used to work on the dev team before he crashed out on November 17th, 2021 and doxxed Ari

cedar trench
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that's the best part

cedar trench
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whenever chat becomes about the dev process it's so funny

south portal
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imma need a lore recap

cedar trench
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assumption games

oblique musk
cedar trench
lone crown
# south portal wth was the cake thing? ik it was like dev account? but like why did it say that...

It is from the real dev, this account was not really heard of at all and was a minor bit of trivia here, on a random basis he’d say random subliminal jokes which held zero meaning

One of these jokes “Something big is coming. Keep your eyes closed” (a joke since it says “closed”) was greatly misinterpreted and spread like wildfire thanks to HK content creators, making this account a more known phenomenon

brittle garnet
# south portal shitposting on main while deving the most anticapated game ever is nasty nasty w...

It was a dev's account.
However.
It was a personal shitpost account. It does not say or advertise anywhere that that is his account. The only way you will find out is by coincidence or if someone who knows tells you. That account is exlusively used for esoteric shitposting, it has never been used as the personal account of William Pellen, and never been used for anything else than shitposting.

twilit vector
cedar trench
atomic sparrow
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i am

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andy

cedar trench
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and i am ann

brittle garnet
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Like it was by all accounts, a secret account

twilit vector
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it was a BASED account

atomic sparrow
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based on what ?

south portal
brittle garnet
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Basically

cedar trench
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i typoed hrt???? that's awesome

oblique musk
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it is a fucking youtube link

twilit vector
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if every single person with silksong on their wishlist was killed the average iq would increase by 10

brittle garnet
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Everyone got tricked because the youtubers who revealed the "secret" did not really specify or illistrate the context behind the account. People just heard "the developer tweeted this"

oblique musk
south portal
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clearly a ip grabber

woeful matrix
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true

atomic sparrow
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yep

woeful matrix
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its a fake touybe

atomic sparrow
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mods

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get em

woeful matrix
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youtubeh

brittle garnet
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So i think it's totally Fireborn's fault for that whole fiasco

heady iron
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We should throw fireb0rn into a wood chipper

young breach
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grubomg my 🐐 bobfred

oblique musk
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Sacrifice fireb0rn for silksong.

twilit vector
brittle garnet
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Like it was definitely irresponsible to present it like that

cedar trench
lone crown
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But fireborn did contribute the most to mass “huh something is happening”

rich narwhal
twilit vector
south portal
young breach
lone crown
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Still viewable

south portal
oblique musk
livid tree
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i cant believe i thought this would be a problem

cedar trench
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me when i am at a blowing it out of proportion challenge and my opponents are HK youtubers and your mom

violet path
livid tree
brittle garnet
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Like it cannot be stressed how many people have a negative view of team cherry for "tricking" the fans maliciously, without knowing the context. Its everywhere in comments.

south portal
twilit vector
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justice for cottonmoon!!!!!!!!!!!

analog jolt
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When will Silksong realease?

oblique musk
atomic sparrow
oblique musk
violet path
livid tree
twilit vector
brittle garnet
oblique musk
rich narwhal
young breach
heady iron
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Mfs think this is the fireb0rn complaint channel

south portal
brittle garnet
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It is

livid tree
livid tree
woeful matrix
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when wont ss release

south portal
young breach
lone crown
# livid tree i cant believe i thought this would be a problem

I’ve been here for a long time solely cause of the wait and the feeling of waiting together with a bunch of random fucks

Once this place becomes the next #hk-discussion it wont have that same feel anymore. I’ll probably still stick around to discuss any lore/tech but not even close to as-frequently, maybe like 6 months after release

twilit vector
brittle garnet
cedar trench
livid tree
twilit vector
cedar trench
leaden delta
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oh there was fire discussion

cedar trench
leaden delta
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I think he’s lame and it’s funny to make fun of his content

twilit vector
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it would destroy the server ecosystem if our little bubble was popped

lone crown
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Also i’m not interested in fearless fox solely because by the time it releases i’d be fucking 28 or something feelspkman

livid tree
lone crown
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And id have moved on from silly games

twilit vector
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the only good hk streamer is skurry

cedar trench
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when fearless fox releases i'll be getting my masters degree fuckkkkkkkk

cedar trench
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funny shit

atomic sparrow
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when fearless fox releases i'd be working lmaooooooo

south portal
oblique musk
lone crown
lone crown
cedar trench
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i looove swearing but i fear we'll have to strangle vivienne medrano if we want to keep swearing cool

oblique musk
lone crown
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Not taking the bait

woeful matrix
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how old are you

livid tree
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weird question

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ngl

atomic sparrow
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i am 2

south portal
lone crown
atomic sparrow
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no pelase no ban

livid tree
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im 100% serious

brittle garnet
atomic sparrow
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mb gang

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👴

cedar trench
south portal
brittle garnet
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And yeah the silksong subreddit is very toxic do avoid it

oblique musk
livid tree
brittle garnet
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Nothing if value is there

south portal
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conflicting messages here

cedar trench
lone crown
cedar trench
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how i interpret it

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because the hk community at large is a clusterfuck

oblique musk
twilit vector
lone crown
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But yeah he creates slop content

brittle garnet
oblique musk
livid tree
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what did fireborn even do lol

cedar trench
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i once held a geiger counter to my pc for fun while browsing r/silksong and it exploded

lone crown
twilit vector
south portal
livid tree
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im not like his #1 fan or anything i just wanna know if he did smth or yall just dislike him because you do

lone crown
young breach
lone crown
cedar trench
fiery burrow
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Its impossible to take this dude seriously

brittle garnet
livid tree
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lol jk thanks

twilit vector
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not a joke btw

brittle garnet
cedar trench
# cedar trench it's lame stupid shitposts

the most unfunny person you know irl is frustrated about a video game and to vent that frustration is pretending to be insane on reddit

high schoolers are doing this instead of shooting up drugs and alcohol at parties

livid tree
heady iron
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Honestly ara’s also been baiting in recent dssn but you didn’t hear that from me

brittle garnet
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Ah yeah i missed the jk message

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All good

atomic sparrow
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those who

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know...

fiery burrow
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<@&283547423706447872> groozy

cedar trench
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and for what

tawdry valley
heady iron
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Not on my wholesome Christian server

twilit vector
south portal
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how does quirrel die exactly? does he just fall over once u leave the blue lake? like why would e just die randomly?

cedar trench
young breach
tawdry valley
brittle garnet
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Any direct mention of nsfw is not allowed

oblique musk
fiery burrow
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Sexual content whatsoever is banned because thats really dangerous to discuss with strangers online if you are a minor

marsh ibex
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please do not refer to nsfw here

fiery burrow
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This is internet safety 101 bro

tawdry valley
twilit vector
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nah

young breach
cedar trench
atomic sparrow
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hello joker

heady iron
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I didn’t allocate any of my income to accidental death or dismemberment insurance at my job

south portal
oblique musk
marsh ibex
young breach
brittle garnet
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But yeah pyrocynical controversy is just he's weird but not in a harmful way

fiery burrow
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I don't even have pronouns in my bio omegamarmu

south portal
rich narwhal
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Did they finish discussing silkso...oh they didn't..alriiiight..

cedar trench
tawdry valley
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Quirrel going and living a happy life would neuter his whole character arc.
Quirrel is sent off with the key to a seal, called back to hallownest as a old warrior, explores and begins to appreciate its former beauty, relives his old life in his new one, fulfills his purpose in old age, and then moves on from a long and fulfilling journey goes adventuring backstage.

twilit vector
atomic sparrow
fiery burrow
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Quirrel probably died of old age

heady iron
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Not me

south portal
heady iron
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I’m not woke like them

oblique musk
marsh ibex
tawdry valley
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Tldr quirrel is a great character partly and specifically because he dies and dies ambiguously

marsh ibex
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bad precedent

south portal
twilit vector
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irony is forbidden here

young breach
atomic sparrow
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qurriel just took a little swim

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TRUST.

cedar trench
south portal
cedar trench
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anyway

young breach
oblique musk
violet path
weary tapir
tawdry valley
livid tree
twilit vector
young breach
atomic sparrow
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he turned old 💔

south portal
twilit vector
tawdry valley
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Lived well

atomic sparrow
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he doesn't sound fine AFTER uumuu

oblique musk
brittle garnet
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I like the theory that Quirrel was basically living on borrowed time protected by the mask and after he removed it, his debt caught up with him and he just disappeared

south portal
tawdry valley
livid tree
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an argument between these 11 would be hilarious 🤣

heady iron
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What is my goat howtobasic doing there

brittle garnet
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Or something

south portal
brittle garnet
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Burst into essence like seer

twilit vector
oblique musk
livid tree
tawdry valley
brittle garnet
young breach
tawdry valley
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What’s the problem

violet path
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Eminems pretty cool

twilit vector
brittle garnet
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Idk maybe its not. Whats bland for you might be tasty to someone else.

tawdry valley
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Boiled chicken and plain rice isn’t anyone’s preferred anything

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It’s just easy to turn into routine

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Cheap, simple, convenient

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Lasts long in a Tupperware

oblique musk
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Alright I have a fuckload of homework to do. If you see me on this server in the next 3 hours please bully me off of it.

twilit vector
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the texture of boiled chicken makes me feel ill

tawdry valley
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That’s what the rice is for

brittle garnet
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I personally cant stand bland food

south portal
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i reckon when that stupid red no turns into a green yes the entire world will stand still

brittle garnet
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If i had a choice i wouldnt be able to eat that

twilit vector
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plain rice is pretty good though

tawdry valley
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I’m more a grilled chicken man myself tbh

twilit vector
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the chicken is the issue

brittle garnet
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But i know people in my family who enjoy things that to me have too little flavor, while flavors i enjoy are too strong for them.

violet path
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Sometimes im not in the mood for some crazy flavoring

heady iron
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Ara when he wants a new lamborghini: hmm, I should change today’s dssn title to say “Yes, but…”

south portal
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salubras blessing is the WORST thing in HK and u CANT say otherwise

twilit vector
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how could flavour be too strong for you

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like that actually doesnt compute

lone crown
tawdry valley
brittle garnet
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No the worst thing is definitely zote's babbling

twilit vector
brittle garnet
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Oh yeah those are gross

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But in a cool way

twilit vector
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i hate them so much

young breach
south portal
tawdry valley
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I love deepnest

twilit vector
south portal
heady iron
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Pronouns in bio, ignored

twilit vector
tawdry valley
south portal
young breach
tawdry valley
# south portal I HATE DEEPNEST

Deepnest level design is PEAK metroidvania.

There are two ways to enter deepnest in a Typical playthrough:
The fungal wastes floor drop, and the mantis lords gate.
The gate immediately presents a corpse pile of scary looking bugs, and a few of the design choices deepnest makes regarding spikes, geo, basically setting the theme for the area- placing the player on guard
The fungal wastes entrance takes the player by surprise, drops them into a creepy crawly pit, and puts the player on guard

Both these entrances make it clear what you’re getting into.
Both these entrances hand you cornifers laughably unfinished map with his dialogue.
Both these places present the player with a choice to exit, or press on into deepnest while they have been put on guard

This is immensely important, because this state of caution (Not Fear) is what defines the core of the deepnest exploration loop, and presents every design choice in deepnest as a unique take on the “casually wandering” of HK.

If you choose to press on into deepnest, after all the above warnings and clues, the game will plunge you fully into the area, dropping you into the hot spring (after teasing Nosk)

Then there’s the whole rest of deepnest. Think about all of these items, in the context of “the player is on their guard, they know they’re in danger, how do we keep them engaged, and keep this massive area fresh

Design elements employed in the deepnest exploration loop:
-Enemies that resurrect
-ever changing background room art. Deepnest is secretly composed of nothing but sub areas, but you can’t tell because every 2 rooms has a new little tweak or theme attached to it.
(See the sets of rooms leading up to and including tram/village/galien/Nosk/garpede/basin/queens)
-Massive size coupled with high reward density. Deepnest exploration is taxing but TC made it rewarding, and then they let you do a shitload of it. Progress in an environment so hostile is thus so much more concrete.

young breach
atomic sparrow
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GUH

twilit vector
twilit vector
brittle garnet
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There is an argument to be made that normalizing such jokes leads to overall worse outcomes, but the people who say the most offensive jokes about queers are the most queer people i know so honestly im not sure

inner locust
tawdry valley
young breach
south portal
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plus no good boss

tawdry valley
twilit vector
south portal
tawdry valley
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And most overworld bosses are thematically focused

young breach
brittle garnet
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Honestly deepnest was apparently supposed to be a good chunk larger byt they had to cut it because of time constraints, i would really love to see what they had planned for it

twilit vector
heady iron
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Rip giant spider boss

tawdry valley
twilit vector
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insane hypocrisy

south portal
young breach
tawdry valley
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The area is the boss

south portal
twilit vector
tawdry valley
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And that doesn’t alter the level design

charred herald
brittle garnet
tawdry valley
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Plus what are we comparing it to. Uumuu? Watcher knights?

young breach
brittle garnet
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The giant spider boss in some trailer definitely got cut at least

charred herald
south portal
marsh ibex
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If Inget

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Another ping

tawdry valley
marsh ibex
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From this channel

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15 second slowmode

atomic sparrow
marsh ibex
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Minimum

twilit vector
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do it

atomic sparrow
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looking for ingot ?

marsh ibex
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istg

charred herald
heady iron
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Someone do it

atomic sparrow
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like minecraft ?

tawdry valley
young breach
atomic sparrow
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no !

heady iron
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Me when I have to do the job I signed up for

twilit vector
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slowmode NOW

livid tree
atomic sparrow
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nop guys !

brittle garnet
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Joker forgive them. They are but children

atomic sparrow
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this isn't you !

charred herald
atomic sparrow
marsh ibex
charred herald
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i don't love this channel either

south portal
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silksong släpps imorn tro mig

twilit vector
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what

marsh ibex
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anyways stop arguing about what I said to not do be quiet

tawdry valley
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We were talking about characters that died earlier

south portal
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im like the mushroom

twilit vector
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i respect it

marsh ibex
tawdry valley
charred herald
tawdry valley
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This list format is ass

marsh ibex
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Do you think his kids will just burst out or will they eat out

tawdry valley
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I’m just running out of lists to steer the convo

charred herald
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aren't like half of these alive at the end of the game

tawdry valley
marsh ibex
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is there even enough grubfather to eat?

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do I need to cleanse myself of my iniquity?

lone crown
tawdry valley
twilit vector
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if you use ddark on grubfather he should burst

marsh ibex
tawdry valley
atomic sparrow
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lmao.

tawdry valley
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But the list is garbage

lone crown
tawdry valley
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So some actually do die

lone crown
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I saw a few that do die

marsh ibex
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like DD just goes to palace grounds

tawdry valley
lone crown
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And iw as like oh this is about dead characters

tawdry valley
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The list sucks

marsh ibex
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See WP gone

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He starts sobbing

atomic sparrow
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DD ? descending dark ?

charred herald
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trust me

brittle garnet
tawdry valley
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I do however think the list works because the emotions are correct

marsh ibex
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“Gallantly reacts to being defeated”

tawdry valley
brittle garnet
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Ohh i see

marsh ibex
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P sure that’s in his journal entry

charred herald
lucid holly
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Finished wilds

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Insanely peak

brittle garnet
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Already?

charred herald
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i thought you were talking about something else

brittle garnet
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Or just the story?

lucid holly
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The main story

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All 6 chapters

brittle garnet
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Ah yes tutorial is over

lucid holly
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Exactly

brittle garnet
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Now the real game begins

lone crown
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I hope Ogrim just moved on and stopped dwelling on the past and hiding in a dead kingdom, it gave me that vibe in his dialogue before leaving

lucid holly
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I fucking hate nata in the first 3 chapters of the story

lone crown
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But we’ll never know

charred herald
brittle garnet
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I am currently still on ||Jin Dahaad|| but i also hate Nata up until this point

lucid holly
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He gets better over the story but is still miserable

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You aren’t gonna be a hunter lil bro

woeful matrix
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i am ogrim

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whos ogrim

brittle garnet
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I also think it was a bit awkwardly explained that ||several years have passed between the scene where they found him and the scene where we begin the expedition||

lucid holly
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Yea

charred herald
uncut citrus
lucid holly
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Also || he goes from hating arkveld for destroying his village to being it’s best fucking friend||

uncut citrus
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Oh! Grimm

atomic sparrow
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nah

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this can't be

lucid holly
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Why in the hell does he go on quests with us bro is like 5

atomic sparrow
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wait...both ogrim and grimm are red...

uncut citrus
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It is...

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Hegamol is the Ogrim!

atomic sparrow
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ohhhhhhhhh

uncut citrus
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That's the only logical conclusion

charred herald
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😭

lone crown
charred herald
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idk why that's so funny to me

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behold the Ogrim

finite flax
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n

brittle garnet
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Also i just yesterday realized that ||the Arkveld from the demo is likely the original, real Arkveld. Non-Guardian||

uncut citrus
# lone crown YES

I feel you'd like that because you're a "Hegamol is the" fan and also an Ogrim fan, it just makes sense

lone crown
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Maggot is the*

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Maggot is the Hegemol.

finite flax
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hedgemol

brittle garnet
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Idk i havent gotten that far

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As i said im still on ||Jin Dahaad repel||

atomic sparrow
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has anybody drawn what hegemol could've looked like without his armour for funsies

brittle garnet
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I actually triple carted on it lol

lucid holly
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What weapon u using

brittle garnet
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Hunting horn

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And Lance

uncut citrus
uncut citrus
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Maggot is the Ogrim

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?

brittle garnet
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But it was very late so i probably was just tired and performing poorly

lone crown
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Maggot is in fact the Ogrim

lucid holly
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Insect glaive peak

lone crown
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Why do you think he lives with them

uncut citrus
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I feel it was the opposite still

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Like, you say the maggit

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Maggot

lucid holly
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Also insect glaive is strong

uncut citrus
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You don't say the Hegemol

brittle garnet
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It probably is but i mained IG in sunbreak and it was so easy compared to all other weapons i had basically never learned any monster moveset

opaque sigil
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me in 4u feelspkman

brittle garnet
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So it ended up with me unable to succeed with anything else

lone crown
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Wait

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Thats not the right link

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Let me find the original original

brittle garnet
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Like for real my heavensent insect glaive set in sunbreak is so goddamn strong and easy to use

opaque sigil
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it's pretty strong in wilds too

lone crown
brittle garnet
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Not as strong im sure because no kinsect slash

opaque sigil
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uuuuh you'd maybe be surprised feelspkman

brittle garnet
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Helicopter actually has a long enough animation to allow you to get hit sometimes

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Kinsect slash is not only instant and aimed but it also has iframes

opaque sigil
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true it is slower and less invulnerable

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but it has crazy damage output

brittle garnet
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Welp

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Do the kinsects have interesting unique properties?

opaque sigil
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and you can kinda chain focus strikes

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
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Ok

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Cause the sunbreak ones were really great

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Kinsects are a great avenue for playstyle variation to emerge in IG

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If the devs actually explore it

opaque sigil
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you don't have the powder/assist/speed but each kinsect has traits

uncut citrus
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I stay winning

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And slaying

brittle garnet
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Yeah i figured as much but idk how impactful those traits are

opaque sigil
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idk either

brittle garnet
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Ideally the kinsect would make the difference between choosing aerial or grounded style

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Lance is really great in wilds

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Insane glowup

opaque sigil
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I’m having trouble getting damage out of it

brittle garnet
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So basically

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You know the charge counter

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Circle+guard

opaque sigil
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Yeah the timing just hasn’t clicked yet

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When it’s worked it does a ton

brittle garnet
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If you let an attack actually hit your shield you do the least damage

opaque sigil
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ik

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that just triggers like a normal attack

brittle garnet
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Counter intuitive

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But yeah i didn't realise that

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Also power guard into retribution thrust is good

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Or perfect guard into a finisher

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
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The damage from lance comes from never having downtime

opaque sigil
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it's not like I don't have any clue how to use lance, I've hunted arkveld with it, it's just slower than other weapons for me atm

brittle garnet
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Yeah its got some caveats and feels sluggish despite how mobile it actually is

opaque sigil
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adding the charge to my offense def helped

brittle garnet
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Also midthrust combo is faster than high thrust

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So thats someting to consider during openings

opaque sigil
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yeah mid thrust is my main damage dealer

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when I can't counter

brittle garnet
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I usually use high thrust

opaque sigil
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does it do more damage?

brittle garnet
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But in openings i use leaping thrust into sweep inti high thrust into either triple poke or charge counter

wheat sail
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mid

brittle garnet
opaque sigil
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I see

lone crown
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Scroll further smh

brittle garnet
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It deals a bit more damage per poke, but is slightly slower to execute

uncut citrus
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WHAT

opaque sigil
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well triple thrust combo does let you guard faster so probably still better when the monster is a threat

brittle garnet
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Yeah

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And the combo finisher is interchangable anyways

rustic ore
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i dont actually think High Thrust has different MVs than Mid Thrust

brittle garnet
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You can do mid mid high thrust since the 3rd poke deals more damage

opaque sigil
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stabbing the head is also good feelspkman

brittle garnet
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Yes

lone crown
brittle garnet
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My biggest issue with lance so far is turning

opaque sigil
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I have done some gunlance, it's fun but it's basically 75% fumbling 25% relentless super hits

brittle garnet
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GunLance felt super awkward to me in rise and world

opaque sigil
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wyrmstake full blast spam

brittle garnet
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I didn't understand the combo strings

rustic ore
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gunlance in general was always at least a little awkward tbh

brittle garnet
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They felt very unintuitive

rustic ore
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but wilds GL feels great

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feels like the "gun" part is finally the main focus

uncut citrus
opaque sigil
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at the end of the day in wilds you can shelling -> moving wide sweep -> [various calamitous bullshit for the monster]

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overhead smash getting worked in is nice but not super necessary

rustic ore
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perfect guard into sweeping fullburst my beloved

brittle garnet
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Id describe it like. Playing gunlance feels like piloting a tank or a mech, but not in a game but irl fiddling with controls and levers

rustic ore
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ah my nitro's gone

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such is life

opaque sigil
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also wyvern fire is super satisfying and I think focus mode helps a lot with like aiming your shit

rustic ore
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c'est la vie

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you could aim wyverns fire in world anyway

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and rise

opaque sigil
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you could

rustic ore
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yeah

opaque sigil
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but focus mode means you're like always aiming

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it's much more natural imo

brittle garnet
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Gunlance honestly is probably just objectively better because your shells scale damage now

rustic ore
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its exactly the same way to aim as world

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same buttons n everything

carmine island
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@rustic ore consult the graph

rustic ore
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what

opaque sigil
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I've also been pleasantly surprised by bowguns, hbg in particular is a blast and I like that the loop can incorporate mounted combat pretty well

rustic ore
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muffin what does this mean

opaque sigil
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ride and shoot > get off and ignition gun the monster > climb back on and shoot normally

wheat sail
brittle garnet
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That's weird because i heard from prolific bowgun mains that they hate it because they lost like half the features

opaque sigil
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well I'm not a bowgun main feelspkman

brittle garnet
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Fair

opaque sigil
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idk

brittle garnet
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But yeah they did get giganerfed

carmine island
opaque sigil
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I can tell it's streamlined in some respects but I don't really mind it?

brittle garnet
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Not being able to improve recoil and reload is a huge nerf

wheat sail
opaque sigil
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and reload isn't exactly slow so tamershrug

rustic ore
jade canopy
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Is Lance even stronger now in wild ?

brittle garnet
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Well depends on bowgun, but higher recoils and reload means lower dps

carmine island
jade canopy
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I heard many things about lance (never played monster hunter)

rustic ore
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rise was a while ago

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we're in Wilds

wheat sail
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in the wilds

jade canopy
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Same thing (surely)

wheat sail
rustic ore
opaque sigil
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ignition mode turns the hbg into a proper machine gun which is great

brittle garnet
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Previously different bowguns would have different recoil and reload for the same ammos, now theyre all tied to the ammo itself

carmine island
jade canopy
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throws 7 coins

brittle garnet
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So basically now certain ammos dont have a niche anymore

rustic ore
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i didnt think HBG mains actually existed

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(i know only one)

opaque sigil
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I'm not a main I've just been messing around a bit feelspkman

brittle garnet
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Also for some reason the mods for bowguns only affect the basic 3 raw ammos and elementals

rustic ore
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what

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why

brittle garnet
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So any playstyle that isnt those is less viable

opaque sigil
rustic ore
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speaking of raw ammo the HBG main i know specifically uses Normal 3

brittle garnet
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And pierce basically got buffed above everything else

brittle garnet
opaque sigil
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at least with hbg

brittle garnet
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Normals are always rapidfire now

rustic ore
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i mean he's always only ever used normal 3s

opaque sigil
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oh

rustic ore
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and he's like

brittle garnet
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Pierce is the best now

opaque sigil
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seems like a weird choice to never use elemental shots but whatever

rustic ore
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an MH1 player

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he's been here since the old times

wheat sail
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nobody be playing mh that much

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
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Spread dethroned

rustic ore
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pierce makes funny popcorn noises

twilit vector
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pierce? elden ring reference

rustic ore
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therefore i welcome our new piercing overlords

opaque sigil
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I tend to just empty my entire bowgun before swapping to pierce and using that until either the monster flees or I have a good chance to mass reload

brittle garnet
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For some reason spread doesnt have critical distance at point blank anymore, but normal does

rustic ore
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spread crit distance not being point blank quite literally makes zero sense

opaque sigil
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spread is weird

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fun to use from your seikret kinda annoying on foot

twilit vector
brittle garnet
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Its slightly out from point blank but it seems like a balance decision to curb shield spread builds

rustic ore
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thats like saying "take this SPAS-12. if you shoot them at point blank range they wont die, so stand back and do it"

opaque sigil
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I sorta see a point?

brittle garnet
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Also Ballistics now only extends outer critical distance, not inner

twilit vector
rustic ore
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as i typed it i started to slightly understand

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like more pellets hits more of an area

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but concentrated fire on one specific part is best at extremely close range so

brittle garnet
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Them hitting a smaller area is still probably better tho

opaque sigil
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it's more interesting to try to keep the monster in front of you at a close distance than to just stand between its legs and shoot

brittle garnet
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Realistically

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Maybe ill try it

rustic ore
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when do we get Sniper Ammo that isnt Wyvernsnipe

brittle garnet
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I hated bowguns in rise because

opaque sigil
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oh and you can also do focus blasts from your seikret which is fun

brittle garnet
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Ranged weapons force u to use different controls

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And in World you can have conflicting controls

opaque sigil
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hbg does have guard on x+a which is weird but you get used to it

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trigger is shoot

rustic ore
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I want a slew of heavy shots from long range that don't do the Pierce thing but instead do 1 instance of damage and hit like a train

Wyvernsnipe would be the big kahuna and it just does what it do best

brittle garnet
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But in rise and wilds you cant have the same buttons for different things even when you cant do those things at the same time (you can for some things in wilds but not rise)

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I play kb+m

opaque sigil
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ah

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dunno what that looks like there feelspkman

slender vortex
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Question im on steam i saw on like google that there were DLC's but all i see is gods n Nightmares

opaque sigil
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bow is also a blast

rustic ore
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yeah MH on KBM is cursed in my experience

opaque sigil
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I love the fucking magnet arrow

brittle garnet
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Basically in rise it was awkward because you dont always aim the gun and aiming gun and wirebug had to be different buttons

rustic ore
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like why is LS Spirit Combo on MOUSE 4

rustic ore
brittle garnet
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I do special attack (guard, spirit combo, etc.) on Ctrl

twilit vector
brittle garnet
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E or R for item use, Q for item wheel

slender vortex
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thanks

twilit vector
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np

brittle garnet
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I am also left handed and use left hand for mouse

rustic ore
brittle garnet
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I press spacebar with the palm of my hand

rustic ore
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left handed mouse what the fuck

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im left handed and thats cursed as fuck what do you MEAN

brittle garnet
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Im too used to it any other control scheme just doesnt work for me

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I guess when i started using the pc nobody told me to use mouse with my right hand

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And i was already left handed so i figured, yknow

rustic ore
charred herald
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thank you

rustic ore
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i dont even have the words ngl

charred herald
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🙏

brittle garnet
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It is genuinely very uncomfortable to me to use a controller

rustic ore
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IT GETS WORSE

brittle garnet
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Its very easy im used to it

opaque sigil
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There is something very satisfying about usin the hbg guard to tank a ohko attack and just burst through with wyvernheart active like the heavy from tf2

brittle garnet
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Large surface area

rustic ore
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where did you spawn from

twilit vector
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they should make mirrored controllers im surprised they dont already

brittle garnet
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Poland

rustic ore
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ah

brittle garnet
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They barely make mirrored mice

fiery burrow
#

blud ditched swaxe for HEAVY BOW GUN

brittle garnet
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Left handed mice are rarely produced and most are super expensive

opaque sigil
fiery burrow
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yeah right buddy

twilit vector
opaque sigil
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I’M USING A BUNCH OF SHIT I AM A SWAXE MAIN

fiery burrow
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Beware the pipeline

brittle garnet
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That and also a lot of mice are asymmetrical

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I also dont switch left vs right click

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O use middle finger for left click

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And pointer for right click

twilit vector
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that is horrifying

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respectfully

brittle garnet
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Its still left and right click

twilit vector
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its just weird for me

brittle garnet
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Well yeah naturally

rustic ore
#

no wait i just tried that
it is so close to making sense but then you said middle finger is left click instead of right click

brittle garnet
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In the left hand?

silver oak
brittle garnet
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When you put your fingers on the buttons, middle is on the left and pointer is on the right

opaque sigil
#

Star questioned my loyalty to the goat

rustic ore
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i know that, i tried it the way you said

brittle garnet
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Its easier in my brain to understand it that way than to switch

rustic ore
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it's still weird bc in that instance i would just mirror the functions

brittle garnet
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Left is left

rustic ore
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i mean if it works for you

brittle garnet
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Its the only way ive done it my whole life

rustic ore
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but holy mother of god thats a lore bomb i wasnt ready to deal with

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flashbanged by mouse buttons

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wait this begs the question

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do left handed mice auto-switch the left and right click buttons' functions?

brittle garnet
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Idk

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Ive never had a left handed mouse

brittle garnet
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As i said they're hard to get

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And most are very expensive VERTICAL mice for some reason

rustic ore
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ergonomics' sake apparently

brittle garnet
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Like 90% of asymmetrical mice dont sell a left handed variant

twilit vector
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losing out on a big market

brittle garnet
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Ive just been using a symmetrical mouse or just using a right handed mouse with my left hand

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But i switched that one after a while

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I actually only realized like last 2 years or so that using mouse in the left hand is unusual

twilit vector
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have you ever actually tried switching the inputs

brittle garnet
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I never thought about it before

twilit vector
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valid

rustic ore
#

honestly im coming up with a similar price range for the mice (a couple of these are right handed but ignore that)
they seem to come close to matching the prices of their right handed variants

brittle garnet
rustic ore
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maybe thats just bc im in america or smth. smth to do with shipping

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i think i have a razer basilisk last i checked

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hang on

brittle garnet
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The one for 180

twilit vector
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i mean three are symmetrical so who knows

rustic ore
#

the one on the far left is left handed

serene chasm
#

Lefties deserve to pay more for being evil sinners

brittle garnet
#

No

rustic ore
#

also i was nor aware of that lmao

brittle garnet
#

Oh wait maybe it is

twilit vector
#

the one for 180 isnt though so youre still right

brittle garnet
#

Yeah the buttons are on the right so it is left handed

rustic ore
#

????????

brittle garnet
#

Since you press those with ur thumb

twilit vector
brittle garnet
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Actually i goofed the last one is left handed too

twilit vector
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i thought that was for your thumb to rest on

brittle garnet
rustic ore
#

yeah the one on the far right is still right handed. looks a lot like mine

brittle garnet
twilit vector
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damn

brittle garnet
#

Oh wait no

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It is

rustic ore
#

180 is a right handed mouse

brittle garnet
#

It has buttons on the left

rustic ore
#

thats where your palm rests

serene chasm
#

honestly. Gaming mice are overrated anyways. All those extra buttons arent that useful

rustic ore
#

buttons on the left are for your thumb

brittle garnet
#

Some of the flaps are for your thumb and some are for your palm

rustic ore
#

true you really only need a couple extra buttons

tawdry valley
brittle garnet
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I just want one extra button that i can press easily

rustic ore
#

mouse 4 and 5 are goated

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but anything past that is unnecessary

tawdry valley
#

2 extra buttons is fine but the dealbreaker is just being a decent size

serene chasm
brittle garnet
#

So wait mice 2 and 5 are the only left handed ones

rustic ore
#

dark mode activated once again

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this feels weird now ngl

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it seems that way

cunning geode
#

i do get a lot of use outta two extra buttons for my thumb though

brittle garnet
#

I bought a wired mouse because i got tired of the battery running out but the cable is stiff and it makes using it annoying too

tawdry valley
#

In all honesty the main thing holding back light mode is the font

rustic ore
#

mouse 1* is actually the only left handed mouse there

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whats wrong w the font?

steady sage
tawdry valley
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People’s messages are the least easy thing to read

brittle garnet
rustic ore
#

lmao

tawdry valley
tawdry valley
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Yeah yeah

cunning geode
rustic ore
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what do you mean tho

cunning geode
#

now that i think of it, i don’t use those buttons for TF2

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hm

rustic ore
#

i dont see a functional difference

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i use my buttons for terraria mostly ngl

tawdry valley
twilit vector
#

genuinely is there a way to turn off grimmchilds disgusting obnoxious mewling

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he doesnt shut up

rustic ore
#

i have heal and teleports set to mouse 4 and 5

tawdry valley
rustic ore
#

the only way to shut grimmchild up is to not use him

cunning geode
#

no you just have to remove the grimmchild charm

opaque sigil
#

😭 I just wanted to hunt a rathian

twilit vector
rustic ore
#

what happened tmamo

opaque sigil
#

another rathian and a rathalos

rustic ore
#

ohhhhhhhh

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i see them now

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yikes

cunning geode
rustic ore
#

rath brought the whole harem zotewheeze

tawdry valley
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Out of curiosity

rustic ore
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nothing really

#

but there's no real reason to think this can't just happen again

tawdry valley
#

Does “going wrong” just mean takes longer then

serene chasm
#

I wanna ask. what is the gameplay loop of MH?

rustic ore
#

yes

opaque sigil
formal whale
#

He is garbage

rustic ore
#

takes longer, more dangerous, more annoying

twilit vector
tawdry valley
opaque sigil
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this is nothing though I once was hunting an arkveld and for like five minutes another arkveld showed up and stuck around

brittle garnet
tawdry valley
#

You hunt monsters

serene chasm
brittle garnet
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Both

rustic ore
#

Rathian is annoying enough with her penchant for pain train and poison tactics. throw in a second one, it's hell. throw in RathaLOS (the male) and it's the same thing, but FLYING

tawdry valley
#

Idk about wilds specifically

rustic ore
#

monsters naturally spawn in the world

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but theyre not guaranteed spawns

opaque sigil
#

I actually really like wilds rathalos

rustic ore
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so you should ideally start up a quest hunting a specific one if you want that one

brittle garnet
rustic ore
#

Raths tend to like forests

brittle garnet
#

You can also yeah, go to a quest board to choose a specific quest to fight a specific monster

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
#

Certain monsters arent bound to one locale and can be all over

rustic ore
#

this is true

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like good old Bazelgeuse

formal whale
rustic ore
#

normally you would find him in the Elder's Recess or Wildspire Waste

twilit vector
rustic ore
#

however

brittle garnet
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But when you view the world map you can see what monster is in each locale, there can be 3 or 4 at once in one locale

rustic ore
#

Bazel does not give a shit

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Bazel goes where he pleases

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he can be found on literally any map

twilit vector
#

got rid of the little rat

brittle garnet
#

King shit

twilit vector
#

i can finally use mark of pride again

brittle garnet
#

Also bazel is my favourite monster

rustic ore
#

Bazelgeuse is literally coded to respond to active battle and dive straight into it headfirst

brittle garnet
rustic ore
#

easy for you to say

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that shit is like a 50/50 gamble with my life

brittle garnet
#

Like he literally flies a bit away before using it and it positions him so that it misses

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At least for me when i fought the first rathalos in game (story) because i havent gotten to high rank yet

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So maybe normal rathalos doesnt do that