sk-discussion

[cyan forum]

i'm literally not saying any of this

[oblique musk]

Easy, just say that in the MH world, samurai designed their armor after it.

[lone crown]

Literally the viewpoint I said earlier

[fiery burrow]

Odogaron is also inspired by folklore and most monsters are inspired by IRL animals

[opaque sigil]

this would be the diegetic reason yeah

[fiery burrow]

Many are inspired by either western or eastern dragons as well

[oblique musk]

Real mediaheads call it the Watsonian reason

[fiery burrow]

This isn't unique to Malo

You're just hating

[copper shore]

what is the limit then

[fiery burrow]

Irrelevant

[opaque sigil]

arbitrary

[fiery burrow]

No one cares

Magnamalo is cool the limit doesn't matter

[copper shore]

ok you just admitted to not caring so YOU are arguing in bad faith

[lone crown]

Never seen a bunch so passionate about hating/loving a fictional creature who looks like 👹

[copper shore]

like why are you even here

[fiery burrow]

I don't care about your irrelevant tangents meant to derail the conversation

[copper shore]

how are meant to derail

[next pier]

why does he have fire if he is cool

[cyan forum]

odogaron has ecologically sound reasons for it's design, reasons which MOST IMPORTANTLY are in line with the set foundations of MH's world

[opaque sigil]

I'm mostly fascinated by how dogshit the arguments people are making trying to come up with things to justify their completely subjective feelings

[copper shore]

everything I've asked is relevant
the cthulhu shit was a joke

you're just not answering me

[fiery burrow]

The "limit" is not

[finite flax]

les all eat shit together

[fiery burrow]

Magnamalo isn't any different from the other monsters I do not care about the limit

Whatever that means

[opaque sigil]

the limit is purely personal taste

[oblique musk]

Listen, I just don’t see why giant dragons show up in one installment and are never seen in any other game before or since

[rustic ore]

So like Shara Ishvalda is related to Valstrax. Not particularly closely, but it is.

-Shara has a vented chest, just like Valstrax, with channels that lead into its lungs, up through its arms, and into its wing fingers. It uses the vents to suck up insane amounts of air, just like Valstrax does. Except instead of flying, it uses it to supplement its earth-powdering abilities.

-As for the earth-powdering, that is caused by Shara rapidly vibrating the rock apart. It does it in such a way that the ground shatters and pulverizes into sand, in a process called liquefaction. Liquefaction can make a solid mass of sand act as a liquid.

-When Shara blasts air deep into this liquefacted sand (which is currently acting like a thick liquid), the air makes pressurized bubbles and explodes under the weight.

[opaque sigil]

is this a real crossover because I would NOT be surprised

[fiery burrow]

Those reasons being

Why is it red why is it weasel-like

[lone crown]

We need Rathalos in Fortnite

As a skin. Like godzilla

[fiery burrow]

The actual reason is they wanted a weasel-wolf monster

[copper shore]

okay then why do you even care about this conversation

[oblique musk]

Yup. Apparently the MH monsters are similar enough to Metal Gears for Big Boss to take them down.

[copper shore]

we do not dislike monster hunter

[fiery burrow]

I don't care about the question you posed because its a completely different conversation that I am not interested in

[rustic ore]

Red: rotten vale is red. camo baby. Also red is really hard to see at night.

Weasel: aggression scares smaller things so you get more food for yourself

[fiery burrow]

Odo isn't an ambush hunter

[opaque sigil]

bUt WhY dOeS iT lOok lIkE a WeAseL

[copper shore]

it's not

[next pier]

most pointess argument of 2024?

[oblique musk]

How do we tell him

[rustic ore]

Odo is a “whatever it feels like” monster tbh. It’s ambushed before, and it’s thrown hands before

[fiery burrow]

we're in the big 25 buddy

[rustic ore]

It’s 25 chief

[copper shore]

and magnamalo expels gas

[rustic ore]

…yes.

[lone crown]

Cake:

[rustic ore]

that is what he does.

[next pier]

?????? 25 was like 1999 years ago

[copper shore]

great work team

[rustic ore]

because that is how jet propulsion works.

[cyan forum]

it's red because it has relatively thin skin and a high density of blood veins, it's weird skin texture is to expel high amounts of large due to it's extremely active metabolism, which it needs for it's active hunting life-style

[fiery burrow]

source

[opaque sigil]

magnamalo is spiky because it's useful to be spiky in a fight

[rustic ore]

yrue

[lone crown]

What MH creature would be deilicious when fried

[rustic ore]

popo

[opaque sigil]

like all of them it's frying

[next pier]

all of them

[rustic ore]

actually no popo wouldnt be good fried cus its like beef.

[opaque sigil]

well

[next pier]

moderators delete tammo's message

[rustic ore]

probably gargwa

[lone crown]

True, frying makes everything good

[opaque sigil]

vaal hazak might not be food safe

[lone crown]

But which is the superior meat

[oblique musk]

Schnitzel:

[rustic ore]

Gajau

I dont like schnitzel that much actually

[copper shore]

how does magnamalo actually do it
where does it get all the gas and energy to do that ?

[fiery burrow]

Food

[rustic ore]

It’s good but there’s better meat to fry

[fiery burrow]

Read the hunters notes my guy

[brittle garnet]

i dislike magnamalo not because of one particular thing about it but because of the combination and how it feels shoehorned and designed to try hard to be cool.
it's fine that it's a samurai, that's cool.
it's fine that it has teostra powder, whatever.
it's fine that it has extendable blades all over its body, whatever
it's fine that it can fly and propel itself with the powder too, whatever
it's fine that it beats elder dragons in turf wars, whatever
but it's not fine that all of these things are on a single monster. It really is quite a bit more than almost any other monster at once.

[opaque sigil]

it gets the gas from eating it's like deviljho

[oblique musk]

I wonder how deep fried rat tastes…

[stark estuary]

kfc deep fried rat

[lone crown]

Where can I buy this

[fiery burrow]

Are you seriously complaining about a monsters ecology without reading its entry

[oblique musk]

TFR: Texas Fried Rats.

[opaque sigil]

A monster with a carapace like tempered steel armor. The vapor around it is actually the expelling of trapped gases from the hordes of monsters Magnamalo has consumed.

[cyan forum]

i'm not against things being inspired folklore or whatever. i've never said this. what i'm saying is that the folklore or whatever other inspirational aspect shouldn't be a determent to the ecology

that's my entire point right here

[cyan forum]

istg

[cyan forum]

it's in the world art book

[lone crown]

Holy shit Durandoo...

[rustic ore]

Constantly eating. When you digest food, your gut biome generates methane. This is why Magnamalo is found everywhere and constantly on the hunt, because its main source of power is from all the food it can eat.

[copper shore]

okay now why does magnamalo HAVE this capability

[cyan forum]

my internet is so fucking ass

[cyan forum]

no reason

[rustic ore]

The gas is expelled through pores you can see around its back, arms, and tail.

[copper shore]

for what purpose does it serve as an animal

[brittle garnet]

like for me personally magnamalo would have been fine and cooler if at least one or two of these things weren't the case and it was more focused on fewer things

[fiery burrow]

hunting

[copper shore]

it ended up like that for no reason

[rustic ore]

As a MONSTER HUNTER animal

[cyan forum]

it's to make the gameplay fun and exciting

[rustic ore]

Keep that in mind.

[cyan forum]

how does it aid in hunting

[opaque sigil]

this is a comically stupid thing to ask

[copper shore]

no it's not

[next pier]

its because i wanted it to be like that

[fiery burrow]

Go fight it you can see how it aids in fighting

[stark estuary]

Rajang Deviljho etc all have a combination of these too and Magna is on the same tier as them it’s also a flagship which tend to be flashier than your average monster

[opaque sigil]

how does its hellfire aid in hunting? are you actually serious?

IT'S THE FUCKING HELLFIRE

[brittle garnet]

the extendable blades on every part of its body is also a bit stupid imo

[cyan forum]

it aids in making a good and fun fight. not actual hunting

[sage glade]

im so sleepy

[lone crown]

The truth of the matter is no matter how much you argue with these people over justifying a monster design, they won't have their minds changed regardless if they're going to be this stubborn about it

[rustic ore]

How does
checks notes
FIRE aid in hunting

[cyan forum]

creatures don't evolve abilities because they're cool or powerful. they evolve them because they serve them a benefit

[fiery burrow]

Heres it fighting another animal, you can see why its immensely useful

[opaque sigil]

ok you're either too stupid to have this conversation or definitely purely acting in bad faith

[oblique musk]

“How would being able to set anything you hit on fire aid in hunting?”

[opaque sigil]

it has it for the same reason fucking any monster has any element why can an astalos do lightning

[copper shore]

the monsters are supposed to animals

[fiery burrow]

Also watch the intro cutscene here is how it aids in hunting prey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o7CObwTOkA

Who could've thunk the exploding gas that it uses to propel itself is useful

[lone crown]

That's awesome

[brittle garnet]

not really much in terms of fighting, it would be more useful for scaring away potential competitors, or for setting fires to vegetation to get the prey out of its hiding spots

[lone crown]

WTF why are people hating

[cyan forum]

i thought this cutscene was folklore lol

[lone crown]

Actually dont answer that

[rustic ore]

Yes, and Magnamalo is FAR from the only animal in that universe that can blow shit up or set it on fire. There’s competition in that universe. Heavy competition. Because the shit on his level is just as cracked as he is.

[brittle garnet]

that's not true

simply is not

[opaque sigil]

guys it just doesn't make sense for rathalos to be able to breathe fire it simply wouldn't evolve it

[cyan forum]

magnamalo's hellfire literally gives it away

[oblique musk]

Obviously it was only added by Sakurai to make the assist trophy more entertaining

[opaque sigil]

so does a zinogre's lightning GUYS ZINOGRE CAN'T HAVE LIGHTNING

[cyan forum]

you say this but they actually give sound explanations for it

[rustic ore]

But here’s the thing: Magnamalo blasts himself forward so fast that that doesn’t matter in the slightest

[opaque sigil]

NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN MAGNAMALO

this is hilarious

[next pier]

why does zinogre lightning

[lone crown]

Smash Ultimate just gave us Rathalos and his own boss stage in some plains yet we dont get neither a character nor a map 😭

[brittle garnet]

Unnatural History Channel does make very cool speculative ecology videos about monster hunter monsters, please watch all of his videos if you like monhun

[cyan forum]

CORRECT. YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT ASPECT OF ZINOGRE IS DUMB

[copper shore]

animals don't deliberately evolve dude
there is no reason for it to evolve that way in its ecosystem

[opaque sigil]

bruh I can't even

[fiery burrow]

This is a strawman

I did not say that but whatever

[oblique musk]

Right. It’s like saying that guns shouldn’t be used for hunting, since the sound of the shot alerts your prey.

[stark estuary]

Deviljho is Godzilla that’s cool
It has dragon energy that’s cool
It eats everything it comes across that’s cool
It can fire off atomic breath that’s cool
It can beat elder dragons whatever

[fiery burrow]

Monster Hunter does not care about evolution

It exists

But they don't let it impact monster designs

[opaque sigil]

there's as much reason for magnamalo to evolve the way it did as for most monsters to evolve the way they did

[rustic ore]

Because he has a network of small beetles that evolved alongside him (called Fulgurbugs) that carry a small electric charge, inside his body. Or rather, his big yellow plating.

[cyan forum]

yes it is because the reasoning for rathalos are actually sound and compliant with the world. magnomalo's aren't

[rose onyx]

hey strangers

[fiery burrow]

How did Barioth evolve the ability to create massive ice tornados

[rustic ore]

Zinogre is a beehive for electrical beetles.

[opaque sigil]

magnamalo's reasoning is 100% compliant with the world and as sound as anything else

[next pier]

i read it as his big yellow painting

[brittle garnet]

you mentioned one of these twice, and these are really quite a bit tamer than magnamalo's

[next pier]

zinogre if he shot good game design instead of lightning

[rose onyx]

ah idk anything about monster hunter, bye strangers

[copper shore]

but they do
why would they put so much care and effort into their ecology and biology if they didn't

[brittle garnet]

anyway watch Unnatural History Channel

[next pier]

dont go its really funny to watch them argue

[opaque sigil]

ecology and evolution are completely different things

[stark estuary]

Not really no and if dragon energy and atomic breath are separate points then so is hellfire vs rocket jumping

[fiery burrow]

Yes like in Subnautica or Slime Rancher

[slate wagon]

[copper shore]

they go hand in hand
one cannot exist without the other

[fiery burrow]

This isn't true in video games

Its fiction its not real

[cyan forum]

the ice breath is an highly specialized ability to help seize up prey in extreme arctic and glacial climates. due to most prey in that regions being well adapted to the arctic climate, they can though it out very well. take popo for example. so the ice breath which seizes movement and is a great benefit

[fiery burrow]

Yes but how would it evolve

[copper shore]

then why did you not say that first

[fiery burrow]

Something having immense practical benefit doesn't mean its plausible for it to evolve

[opaque sigil]

magnamalo's hellfire is a highly specialized ability to help it overpower prey and sustain the high diet it needs in order to maintain that hunting style

it's the fucking same

[fiery burrow]

We haven't evolved laser eyes have we

[stark estuary]

Let’s look at Rajang as well, the super saiyan electric monkey that can leap across the map hurl giant rocks and shoot fucking lasers from its mouth

[rustic ore]

I can show you a picture of a lake and tell you about the things living there without mentioning evolution once

Ecology is basically the “now”

Evolution is how that “now” got here

[brittle garnet]

Not really no. Deviljho doesnt use its dragon energy for anything more than breathing it out.

[fiery burrow]

If you think hellfire isn't useful you need to go fight Magnamalo again

or watch a few turf wars

[cyan forum]

because it's a direct benefit. "why didn't it evolve fire breath", because in this case ice breath is less energy consumptive

[fiery burrow]

thats the WHY

not the how

[copper shore]

that doesn't mean they don't go hand in hand and one doesn't impact the other

[rustic ore]

Yes, but I’m saying you can isolate them if you want

[opaque sigil]

Hellfire has an obvious direct benefit do you genuinely not see how this is the same

[copper shore]

okay but you can't separate them

[cyan forum]

through evolution. "how does evolution work", extremely similarly to our own world

[opaque sigil]

Magnamalo developing hellfire also makes sense

[copper shore]

evolution affects ecology to a massive degree

[fiery burrow]

Evolution can not be realistically approximated in a video game I'm afraid

[copper shore]

man

[cyan forum]

BUT MONSTER HUNTER SO DEARLY TRIES TO

[fiery burrow]

Not really

[opaque sigil]

It eats a lot eating a lot means lots of methane lots of methane and it evolves a use for the methane

[cyan forum]

THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE AND SPECIAL

[fiery burrow]

Can you explain HOW Barioth evolved that

You named the system now name how the system does it

[cunning geode]

we’re still going on about this?

[copper shore]

why do you want to know if you don't care

[cyan forum]

do you fucking want me to explain natural selection

[stark estuary]

You’re splitting hairs. The ability is comparable to hellfire in terms of how ridiculous it is

[opaque sigil]

And again DEVILJHO does the same thing

[lone crown]

It’s sad 😭

[brittle garnet]

Im saying that magnamalo in total has mire things that are more ridiculous in combination.

[fiery burrow]

For an adaptation to be feasible to evolve it needs to give an advantage EVERY step of the way

[brittle garnet]

And im right

[fiery burrow]

For example eye evolution

[next pier]

it's funny

[brittle garnet]

Anyway evolution pretty much is just rng

[rustic ore]

i’m not arguing against that.

I’m trying to say that I don’t have to have a creature or creature design and show you its evolutionary line to show you how it fits into a current, present ecological niche.

[fiery burrow]

I'm asking you to give me these steps for Barioth. As a spoiler alert: You cannot

[brittle garnet]

Evolution does not seek the most efficient or best way to adapt to anything

[fiery burrow]

Barioth has it not because of the MH devs caring about realistic evolution but because its cool

[brittle garnet]

Just a good enough way

[cyan forum]

no it doesn't, it needs to give an advantage compared to other possible mutations. the adaptation doesn't need to be perfect, just the best alternative

get the fuck outa here

[fiery burrow]

Yes you just repeated what I said but with a bit more specification

[opaque sigil]

Bruh I can’t I am GIGGLING

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232587540719206400/978357767612022784/ezgif.com-gif-maker3.gif

[opaque sigil]

Hellfire is no less plausible than ice breath

[brittle garnet]

For an adaptation to be feasible to evolve it needs to not impede functioning and needs to be beneficial enough that those with the mutation have a higher rate of survival on average than those without it

[next pier]

mid gear rising

[cyan forum]

many evolutionary adaptations have drawbacks. but ultimately the benefits outweigh the drawbacks

[rustic ore]

The babirusa can kill itself by growing its teeth too long

[cunning geode]

that’s actually markiplier

[fiery burrow]

And

[rustic ore]

That is an adaptation

The teeth itself

[stark estuary]

You mentioned it being based on a samurai which is irrelevant and it being able to match elders in turf wars which is a feature not unique to it
That leaves the extendable blades which barely even merit mentioning here given how many monsters have similar shit going on and ofc its hellfire which I’m saying is comparable to Deviljho’s dragonblight Rajang’s lightning or any other similarly outrageous ability

[cunning geode]

don’t you dare call markipliwr mid in my angelic gamer discord

[rustic ore]

Not the killing itself part

[opaque sigil]

Oh exactly like hellfire which forces them to consume more but also allows them to consume more by beings an incredibly potent combat ability

[cyan forum]

with the the way hellfire is applied within magnamalo? no, no it isn't

[fiery burrow]

When I say advantageous I mean it needs to increase reproductive success that's the only thing that actually matters

[rustic ore]

But “every step of the way” is false

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it is

[next pier]

i mean couldnt it like
adapt something that like does jackshit but also have another adaptation thats actually good and increases its rate of survival and just carry the pointless adaptation with it

[brittle garnet]

No the extendable blades really are quite ridiculous.

On all parts of its body

[stark estuary]

Arch when he sees an animal with a retractable body part

[next pier]

i am sorry do you forgive me

[brittle garnet]

Can you stop acting in bad faith

[rustic ore]

No I agree the retractable everything is silly to me. Not from an evolutionary standpoint or anything I just don’t like it

[fiery burrow]

Otherwise the chance of the mutation surviving and extending into the entire population is considerably low. Regardless video games fundamentally cannot replicate or approximate evolution

[oblique musk]

Calling Metal Peak Rising mid is beyond forgiveness

[coarse leaf]

i love monster hunter

[stark estuary]

We’re dealing with super saiyans firing lighting from their maws and kaiju firing off blasts of atomic breath and the retractable blades are what you’re concerned about? Really?

[next pier]

when sundowner isnt a shit boss i wont call it mid

[rustic ore]

i dont like the way they look, thats all

[oblique musk]

Music goes hard as fuck

[brittle garnet]

Yes. Its tacky.

[next pier]

i aint say shit about the music i called the game mid

[brittle garnet]

Feels again, trying too hard to be cool

[stark estuary]

So you just don’t like it

[lone crown]

What if this super-bridge is a possible connection

[cyan forum]

hellfire is bullshit. any other adaptation would be more beneficial than making the monster be set on fire and alert all prey in a 10km radius

[oblique musk]

Is there anything that warrants the mid status besides the sundowner fight?

[fiery burrow]

If you think the Monster Hunter devs considered mutations and natural selection you are very wrong. The only thing that the game actually does is give the world a rudimentary Taxonomy

[opaque sigil]

Bruh no monsters do that all the fucking time in monhun

[lone crown]

The last one is a bit of a stretch though

[copper shore]

they can try to and monster hunter does
that's its whole aesthetic

[next pier]

camera is actually the worst thing ever done by humans

[brittle garnet]

I dont think thats the same structure

[fiery burrow]

Source

Give me an example

[copper shore]

play the game

[opaque sigil]

Like genuinely half the monsters in the series this is true of them

[fiery burrow]

I've played World and Rise

[coarse leaf]

its not its referred to as a fitness landscape in evolutionary biology, you cant evolve anything that reduces a species fitness

[lone crown]

Yeah it might be a stretch

[rustic ore]

Cut to a Magnamalo with a successful kill of another ambush predator in its mouth.

[copper shore]

why do you think they gave all the monsters such detailed biology and ecology

[stark estuary]

You shouldn’t have said that you’re going to get clowned now

First rule of being a MH fan never admit you’re a new gen fan

[fiery burrow]

Rule of cool. This has nothing to do with evolution

[copper shore]

yes it does

[cyan forum]

have you read the world concept books?

[fiery burrow]

No and you've never given a screenshot or citation or anything

[cyan forum]

???

[brittle garnet]

Nah world is the best monster hunter better than all those before ot

[coarse leaf]

its just good world building

[oblique musk]

I can see that. I played DS3 and ER, so a camera has to be really dogshit for me to notice. What does suck ass is the PC port. Genuinely one of the buggiest pieces of software I have seen.

[stark estuary]

World is not allat lmao

[brittle garnet]

If you cant tell that was bait

[next pier]

have you seen the camera in the sam dlc armstrong fight

[fiery burrow]

Rise is better frankly

[opaque sigil]

World has some good changes and some pretty iffy shit

[coarse leaf]

world is fantastic

i didnt rlly like rise

[copper shore]

it literally talks of evolution here on the monster hunter wilds site

[oblique musk]

I never had any problems with that. Did you lock on?

[opaque sigil]

It’s monhun ofc it is

[stark estuary]

Tell me you’ve never played another MH game without telling me you’ve never played another MH game

[brittle garnet]

The best momster hunter is the one you beat first

[rustic ore]

I’m too used to spinning with HH and Hammer to enjoy Rise as much as I’d like

[coarse leaf]

gen ultimate ❤️

[fiery burrow]

Yes evolution exists congratulations go reread the conversation and you'll hopefully get my point

[stark estuary]

World endgame is dog

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-air-demons-fighting-who-is-bro-fighting-gif-11839219315339306352

[opaque sigil]

Evolution being canon doesn’t mean every monster actually makes sense there’s something called suspension of disbelief

[next pier]

momster hunter...........

[copper shore]

these evolutions are why the monsters are like that and why they look and function the way they do

[brittle garnet]

I disabled autocorrect it was annoying me

[copper shore]

you're actually stupid as fuck how do you not get this

[next pier]

i do honestly need to know who gaf

[opaque sigil]

You’re stupid as fuck for thinking she’s saying otherwise

[rustic ore]

atp idk

[copper shore]

this is so utterly simple and your entire point has been "it doesn't matter"

[stark estuary]

Alright kiddies recess is over

[copper shore]

I don't even know anymore

[rustic ore]

i like Alatreon

[opaque sigil]

I’m mostly amused

[formal marsh]

i like fire trucks and monster trucks

[stark estuary]

Stop calling each other mean names

[leaden delta]

ok I’ve read 3 sentences

[cyan forum]

you guys talk like evil fucking crypt keepers. we're not here to solve your riddle

[formal marsh]

i like to play and draw

[coarse leaf]

yea monster hunter has incredible world building through its application of real world biology, but the way its applied isnt genuinely feasible and it isnt supposed to be

[next pier]

im sorry for your loss

[brittle garnet]

They were designed by a human artist to fit into those niches and environments

[opaque sigil]

No???? Star’s been pretty clear and understandable

[leaden delta]

and my take is this is it uses evolution combined with a coolness factor

[rustic ore]

SHUT THE FUCK UP I HOPE YOU DIE

[lone crown]

The first bug Garmond kills doesn’t have a dead-on-ground sprite

[oblique musk]

walter

[leaden delta]

utilizing the suspension of disbelief to have the player believe certain adaptations have indeed occurred, even if they’re not the most reasonable

[cunning geode]

not even GOD did that

[next pier]

i think you guys should stop playing monster hunter and play dmc3

[opaque sigil]

Because if they didn’t the monsters would all just be real ass animals

[oblique musk]

Literally unplayable. It will take at least 3 more years of development to rectify this.

[brittle garnet]

Isnt it so cool that Balahara is a fucking drill monster??????

Its so awesome

[rustic ore]

Yes actually

It has scallop eyes

[coarse leaf]

just fighting a straight elephant

[cyan forum]

it's not feasible within our world. but within it's own world. but sometimes, they design a monster that breaks said aesthetic and rules

[lone crown]

“What if I took this horse and yanked its neck”

[leaden delta]

^

[brittle garnet]

YEAH

[leaden delta]

exactly that

[copper shore]

yeah this

[opaque sigil]

NO IT ISNT FEASIBLE THE GLOWING MOUTH ALERTS PREY WAAAH

[coarse leaf]

yea exactly thats what makes the ecology so great

[opaque sigil]

Magna doesn’t break any rule

[fiery burrow]

If you don't understand a term just google it I can assure you it has a wikipedia page

[cyan forum]

it sets boundaries. but then it breaks those boundaries for some other reason. i don't like that

it's really that simple

surely

[coarse leaf]

how is magna classified again?

[cyan forum]

surely

[opaque sigil]

Magna doesn’t break any boundaries

[cunning geode]

what if i took this pig and yanked its nose

[rustic ore]

Zinogre is similarly built to Magnamalo in many ways

It doesn’t break much of anything.

[coarse leaf]

fanged wyvern?

[rustic ore]

Yep

[cyan forum]

surely you have the braincells to comprehend this

[opaque sigil]

Again magna is basically the same as deviljho in terms of ecology

[fiery burrow]

Malo does not break any established rules you were arguing it was designed in a different way because ecology came second or something

[stark estuary]

This isn’t going anywhere I think you should just agree to disagree and give up on the discussion

[brittle garnet]

Zinogre is also quite tacky and flashy but magnamalo is on another level

[rustic ore]

But arguing is fun

[stark estuary]

You’re literally in the same place you were at an hour ago

[lone crown]

I wonder how he would have sculpted an anteater

[coarse leaf]

we got valstrax in here and magnamelo is the one that takes it too far

[stark estuary]

Like the exact same point

[opaque sigil]

Yeah and it’s hilarious how much denial some people are in

[next pier]

the cursor emote still looks like a middle finger

[rustic ore]

Is it not a middle finger?

[next pier]

its pointing i believe

[cunning geode]

took an ant and yanked its eater

[cyan forum]

yes and deviljho is dumb

[next pier]

like a "this"

[fiery burrow]

I'll never back down from the honest truth that Malo is the best monster

[oblique musk]

Nope, the middle finger is

[stark estuary]

Shut the FUCK up

[cyan forum]

this is taking a decade of my lifespan

[opaque sigil]

Bro doesn’t actually care about the rules the series has lmao

[stark estuary]

I HATE YOU

[uncut citrus]

That would be

[coarse leaf]

malo is cool ion know about best

[copper shore]

just because we think magnamalo is stupid doesn't mean we think every other monster is perfect

[coarse leaf]

tbats gotta go to my goat astalos

https://tenor.com/view/astalos-monster-hunter-gif-22986766

[stark estuary]

Everything is dumb

[cyan forum]

this is you. you say this.

[uncut citrus]

[rustic ore]

[copper shore]

we have the capability to criticise what we love 😊

[fiery burrow]

When you claim Malo is dumb because its not like other monsters its perfectly fair game to compare it to other monsters

[opaque sigil]

No you literally just tried to handwave the fact that malo is well within the framework of the series’ world

[copper shore]

yeah and when you gave examples we said the ones you brought up were also stupid

[cyan forum]

it isn't it really really isn't

[opaque sigil]

It is

[stark estuary]

I still remember my first EX boltreaver hunt

[rustic ore]

I like Astalos bc the way his crest and wings shake generate electricity and that’s pretty cool I think

[copper shore]

would magnamalo look weird in monster hunter world

[cyan forum]

i highly recommend actually looking in to the ecology of the animals of monster hunter

[rustic ore]

The way the crest moves is mesmerizing

[fiery burrow]

Thats a personal preference thing it doesn't change the fact that Malo is objectively believable when compared with the other monsters

[opaque sigil]

you've already conceded every factual point you're just crying and doing a dumbfuck purity fallacy

"no the monsters I don't like aren't real monsters wah wah"

[fiery burrow]

If you don't like it sure

[coarse leaf]

hes not too far off stygian in terms of craziness and ecology

[fiery burrow]

But it doesn't break any rules

[rustic ore]

I would probably get mauled by an Astalos irl cus I’m too busy looking at its crest

[gray parcel]

Why do y’all hunt the monsters

Like what’s the motivation

[opaque sigil]

the rules aren't what you personally like they're what is consistent with what's in the games

[lone crown]

Monster Hunter fans have truly become Wild

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-say-that-say-that-agian-marvel-fantastic-gif-12441585058103544841

[coarse leaf]

boltreaver astalos my beloved 🫶

[next pier]

i dont think you could stop it even if you weren't looking at its crest im gonna be real

[cyan forum]

and magna breaks that

simple as.

[opaque sigil]

no it doesn't

[rustic ore]

Depends. Sometimes it’s to like. Protect a village or some shit.
Other times it’s at the behest of a little boy who wants to see an elephant up close

[coarse leaf]

lets talk about how grounded Frontiers ecology is

[lone crown]

They’ve become the very monsters they swore to hunt down

[stark estuary]

The first time I attempted EX Boltreaver I think I carted like 10 seconds in and so I decided to switch to a para aerial ig set and it was stupidly fun ngl the first para was immediately after the first mount and my team fucked it up

[fiery burrow]

"Erm I hunt the monsters to save the local ecosystem and my village. Um uhh research the monsters' ecology." 🤓

"I just like poaching wild animals"

[opaque sigil]

magna factually doesn't its ecology is basically the same as a shit ton of super predators

[next pier]

silly have you killed the mastermind yet

[gray parcel]

Yea

Easy ass boss

[opaque sigil]

fucking anjanath has the same ecology

[stark estuary]

Also aerial ig makes avoiding its moves feel epic

[cunning geode]

which mastermind

doom 1?

[next pier]

all of them

[opaque sigil]

so does glavenus, deviljho, zinogre, etc

[gray parcel]

Doom 2016

[next pier]

not hell guardians

bad boss

[copper shore]

okay but we can just say anything is objectively believable because it is in a video game

[opaque sigil]

monhun has a lot of monsters that are just rushdown powerhouses

[cunning geode]

oh yeah that one is a much better boss fight than the original

[brittle garnet]

yeah i do think it's a bit disingenuous or at least dismissive to say that magnamalo is actually not even crazier than other monsters in the franchise, even comparing it to every previous flagship

[coarse leaf]

magna vs blinking narcaguca

[gray parcel]

The other 2,014 dooms were filler tbh

[rustic ore]

Astalos when I pull out the 9 (I’m still cooked):

[coarse leaf]

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[cyan forum]

there are some really good content creators that talk about the ecology of monster hunter, i highly recommend actually getting antiquated with the animals of MH before yapping. Unnatural History Channel on Youtube is great place to start

hope you learn something

[next pier]

what do you think of the hell guardians from 2016

[rustic ore]

coughing hydrogen vs. baby bomb

[opaque sigil]

I know you genuinely don't understand literally anything that's happened here I get it

[cunning geode]

the original mastermind is kinda the most broken monster in the original games. like it doesn’t function properly not it’s too powerful 👹

[fiery burrow]

No video games have established rules within their universes you just need to suspend disbelief so long as those rules aren't broken

[cunning geode]

they’re fine and fun i think

[opaque sigil]

magna has as much justification for its abilities in terms of development and mechanics as anything else

[fiery burrow]

I don't need a youtube channel I can read the monsters entry in the Hunter's Notes and get everything I need

[cunning geode]

of course the trick with doom is you can use boss monsters as regular monsters…

[rustic ore]

I want a sandwich

[brittle garnet]

the problem is not justification, there is just too much to justify

[formal karma]

what kind?

[rustic ore]

Chat what kind sandwich we feelin

[coarse leaf]

i dont understand why magna is so outlandish

[opaque sigil]

just say it's not for you personally don't do this "but it doesn't make sense" bullshit when it's 100% perfectly consistent with the rest of the series in that regard

[coarse leaf]

whats tje genuine reason

[uncut citrus]

Mozzarella

[cunning geode]

do you have any olives

[wheat sail]

Making some leather purses

[cunning geode]

cut them up and put them in

with mayo

[formal karma]

cold cuts with spinach, parmessan and mustard?

[cunning geode]

ham

[fiery burrow]

Thats your problem with Malo thats not whats being argued

[rustic ore]

Uhhhhh no I don’t think I have any olives

[cyan forum]

Unnatural History Channel has videos on loads of monsters, maybe even your favorites. you have much to learn 😘

[cunning geode]

dijon mustard

[formal karma]

side of carrots and washed down with chocolate milk?

[opaque sigil]

bro is onto nothing

[copper shore]

rise added so much that goes against the rules of previous monster hunter games

[brittle garnet]

that's fair ill let grievy bury himself alone

[next pier]

make sure to put them before the mayo so they're under it

[brittle garnet]

i said my arguments

[rustic ore]

Olives dijon mayo and uhhhhhhhh anything else?

[gray parcel]

Under the mayo?

[opaque sigil]

no more than the additions of any other game

[gray parcel]

World’s biggest Ultrakill fan??

[brittle garnet]

anyways it's cool how different they're making the Wilds monsters so far

[cyan forum]

the notes barely cover anything. seriously, UNH, great content creator

[brittle garnet]

they look kinda alien some of them

really weird designs

[next pier]

i cant wait for the full game to drop so i can watch his review

[coarse leaf]

be so fr and tell me malo is absurd compared to arkveld

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/mhw-hammer-gif-24949482

[cunning geode]

alternatively get some muffuletta mix

[next pier]

he's only gonna review violence when the whole game drops thats fucked up

[cunning geode]

that goes great in a sandwich

[cyan forum]

let's have the hunters run right up the fucking walls and be able to physically wrestle the monsters :DDDD

[rustic ore]

What in gods name is muffuleta mix

[formal karma]

Cold Cuts, Parmessan, Spinach, Mustard. Side? Carrots. Drink? Chocolate milk. Best meal you don't have to cook

[opaque sigil]

bro have you played any of the games???

[cunning geode]

oh god not undah da mayo…

[opaque sigil]

this is as implausible as wyvern riding

[stark estuary]

Grimclaw Tigrex was fun to valor longsword

[lone crown]

I cant lie if i was that monster I’d be shitting myself

[cyan forum]

bro have you played any of the games???

[opaque sigil]

man I love dumb people this is great

[brittle garnet]

you can't be for real

[marsh ibex]

Done with work so I have a funny dtoty

[fiery burrow]

Hunters are beasts

[opaque sigil]

hunters are fucking insane and always have been

[cunning geode]

guys let’s be civil

monster hunter is for babies

[rustic ore]

Joker you should leave there’s MH argument going on

[fiery burrow]

Joker this guy called me stupid can you ban him

[cunning geode]

go play FIFA

[opaque sigil]

yes tigrex is way too heavy to be knocked aside like that

[marsh ibex]

so

[cyan forum]

compared to the real world, sure. compared to literally any other monster games....?

[next pier]

if you were done like one hour ago you'd have seen the funniest things of all time

[cyan forum]

no. :)

[next pier]

actually hilarious discussion

[opaque sigil]

yes compared to other mh games

[lone crown]

It’s going to be drowned out by this hours-long argument I’m sorry to inform you 😭

[opaque sigil]

batting a tigrex aside with a hammer is not more realistic than wall running

[copper shore]

you literally don't care and are arguing to annoy us because they could just release a new game that breaks all the rules but it's an official monster hunter game so it's a part of the universe now !

[fiery burrow]

Wall running is cool anyways who gaf

[brittle garnet]

okay so you're just arguing in bad faith under the pretense of adhering to logic which is not the underlying reason for the argument

[marsh ibex]

I was watching kids swim, and one of them points at me and says “Kendrick Lamar.” Completely unprompted

He then Looks at me and says “sing the song. I know you know it.”

[opaque sigil]

the rules aren't broken

[marsh ibex]

[brittle garnet]

as usual

[copper shore]

can you go away if you don't care

[rustic ore]

…alr now imagine a dog cracking you in the chin with a hammer 🔨

[lone crown]

Kids have no filter on god

[fiery burrow]

if i am being truthfull, you are an annoying person, you just glaze Capcom and dont do anything else, your words consistently make my day worse

[cyan forum]

then why didn't they wall run in mh freedom. then why did the hunters have to spend 30 seconds climbing a wine

[opaque sigil]

it would go flying

[formal marsh]

I wonder why he said that.

[marsh ibex]

seriously what are you guys even arguing about

[next pier]

name one kendrick song that isnt Mustard or A minor

[coarse leaf]

isnt the point of rise to be kind of experimental and insane compared to world

[marsh ibex]

Blood

[coarse leaf]

this is literally monster hunters release loop

[formal marsh]

can you report them or is it too complicated

[coarse leaf]

they always do this

[rustic ore]

atp idk what the discussion is ACTUALLY about

[fiery burrow]

If you're complaining about rise adding new mechanics I think thats the funniest thing I've ever seen

[opaque sigil]

holy shit this is insane man has never experienced a series that changes the gameplay at all

[stark estuary]

That’s a lot of words

[brittle garnet]

favourite monster so far revealed in wilds? I think it's gotta be the octopus for me tbh, or the rose spider

[marsh ibex]

are you seriously complaining about monster hunter mechanics or something and arguing about it

[cyan forum]

it's maybe as if monster hunter goes for a naturalistic aesthetic that is based of parallels within our real world

[rustic ore]

yeah i think thats about the size of it rn

[lone crown]

Its a lot worse than that

[next pier]

also im gonna be real when i read kids swim i thought it was the kids version of adult swim 😭 cartoon network

[lone crown]

Monster hunter monster design

[opaque sigil]

I'm genuinely worried about you

[marsh ibex]

the only thing worse than that would be a realism debate in monster hunter

[rustic ore]

so uh

[lone crown]

…that was also in the argument

[marsh ibex]

you’re joking

[rustic ore]

youre not gonna believe this

[lone crown]

No im not

[cunning geode]

…aren’t games in a series allowed to have some different interpretations of the franchise in any of the ways you can interpret it?

[next pier]

i dont know how to tell you this

[marsh ibex]

please

y’all

Go outside

[gray parcel]

Monster hunter when the big dragon (the police) terrorize the local village (storm their house)

[marsh ibex]

PLEASE

[opaque sigil]

no any gameplay change is breaking the fundamental rules of the universe or some shit

[marsh ibex]

BREATH NON FILTRATED OXYGEN

[rustic ore]

No it’s cold outside

[marsh ibex]

PLEAAW

IM BEGGING YOU

[next pier]

you forgot the word fans

[rustic ore]

PLEAAW

[fiery burrow]

Is the naturalistic aesthetic in the room with us right now? How does the naturalistic aesthetic fit into my lance that explodes or my axe that I need to reload

[marsh ibex]

bro don’t you fight like dragons that can breathe fire???

come on

[rustic ore]

ye

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[rustic ore]

[lone crown]

More specifically it’s been about Magnamalo “not fitting in”

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/valstrax-boost-gif-10082327624460986989

[marsh ibex]

THATS LITERALLY A DRAGON JET

[brittle garnet]

i think it's fair to argue that Rise mechanics stray too far from the tone that a person enjoys Monster Hunter for

[marsh ibex]

WHY YAP ABOUT REALISM

[cunning geode]

yeah i’m like a major doom eternal hater because of what they tried doing with the story but at the end of the day stuff like this i mean it’s a damn video game right? right???

[marsh ibex]

ITS COOL

[rustic ore]

That dragon regularly breaks the sound barrier btw

[stark estuary]

“It’s an elder dragon” 🤓

[marsh ibex]

IT HAS AURA

[coarse leaf]

it grounded bro u gotta trust me

[opaque sigil]

but that's not what they're arguing

[coarse leaf]

u gotta believe me

[fiery burrow]

There's a bomber plane dragon btw

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/バルファルク-モンスターハンター-襲撃-爆発-valstrax-gif-24334715

[next pier]

what are your story complaints for eternal

[copper shore]

okay so when does something "break a rule"
at what level is it too far
let me guess it's none
and you don't care
and are talking or no reason

[rustic ore]

We collectively call it the B-52

[coarse leaf]

radhan cojld never come close to this aura

[next pier]

i need another topic on this channel right now

[cyan forum]

biggest change in the hunters from generation 1 all the way to 4 was them being able to attack mid-air and climb a vine a little faster

[marsh ibex]

what rules are you discussing bro its a fictional world the devs make up the rules

[opaque sigil]

oh my god please tell me it's bait

[cunning geode]

put a pin in that and i’ll let ya know later

[fiery burrow]

It breaks the rules when it stops being about fighting cool monsters

[next pier]

we have been here for like 2 hours we're all talking for no reason lets be real

[stark estuary]

I’m bored of this shit imma go watch Re:Zero

[shell yacht]

Y'all cannot still be on this monster hunter thing

[brittle garnet]

Basil juice my beloved....

[next pier]

play dmc3

[copper shore]

you know what if you don't care fine but I DO and I won't let you invalidate me

[oblique musk]

Are you, like, a lifeguard? Or were you just watching kids for the hell of it?

[stark estuary]

Already played

[fiery burrow]

Its like its named monster hunter or something

[next pier]

are admins the only ones that can change the rules

[marsh ibex]

😐

[next pier]

play it again

[cyan forum]

are you a chatbot

[oblique musk]

It’s an honest question.

[rustic ore]

honestly when i think about it the only hard-set “rule” i can think of is no magic (like wizards n spellcasting n shit)

[opaque sigil]

the reason is it's funny to watch people to fumble badly to create reasons for why their 100% subjective personal opinion on a design is an objective fact about its incongruity with the rest of the game

[copper shore]

I get to feel this way about it

[marsh ibex]

I’m invalidating the discussion that is getting toxic and has been dragging for hours

[fiery burrow]

I just like Magnamalo

[copper shore]

do you hold this opinion ?

[opaque sigil]

like just say "magna isn't my favorite design" you don't gotta make up bullshit to justify it

[next pier]

fair enough he looks fucking sick

[rustic ore]

“rule” in quotation marks

[marsh ibex]

Just stop bruh move on

[fiery burrow]

they said I talked like a crypt keeper mute them please I'm bawling me eyes out rn

[cyan forum]

wait lmfao. you think i've been trying to apply my logic as objective? please don't tell me that

[copper shore]

you know what I mean
do you agree that this rule should be in place

[gray parcel]

Does monster hunter have a deep story

[opaque sigil]

you've literally been arguing that magna's abilities aren't explained and shit

[stark estuary]

Again only a MH fan could hate something for being too cool

[fiery burrow]

Elders are magic

[next pier]

yeah like doom 1993

[gray parcel]

Is there a way to romance the monsters?

[shell yacht]

What does that even mean

[fiery burrow]

In fact Rathalos is magic to be frank

[stark estuary]

You’re not funny dawg

[next pier]

which part of it

[fiery burrow]

I know there's an explanation but a dragon breathing fire is magic be honest

[gray parcel]

Funny?

[rustic ore]

No, I mean like spellcasting specifically. Like no “mana” or whatever

[cyan forum]

@opaque sigil

[opaque sigil]

but world even breaks that rule because they just call it life force

[rustic ore]

Maybe someday

[next pier]

there is no crystal soul spear in monster hunter?

[shell yacht]

Yall with godhome

[oblique musk]

“You may only pass this gate if you answer my riddles three” type shit.

[stark estuary]

Chat we’ve got a real jokester in our midst real knee slapper right here

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/oof-sqidward-patrick-star-ow-cash-regester-gif-15481112

[brittle garnet]

speaking of spellcasting i love the Kinsect abilities in sunbreak, allows you to almost play like a wizard

[rustic ore]

alr im gonna go watch jjk 0

[opaque sigil]

I haven't used kinsect in sunbreak what do they do

[frozen frigate]

hello silkdong discussion i am about to play dark souls 3 again

[stark estuary]

Godhome isn’t cool though it sucks ass

[rustic ore]

also i gotta make dinner

[oblique musk]

Good, it sucks ass.

[next pier]

me when i cant get past oro & mato

[brittle garnet]

there's one where you can press something to make it gather all dust clouds nearby and explode them for big damage depending on the amount

[oblique musk]

Beaten pontiff yet?

[next pier]

no dark bead in monster hunter?

[opaque sigil]

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/icebonekingsdrop-gif-539382818364437261

We got this instead

[opaque sigil]

maybe I should give kinsect another go after I'm done with my swaxe playthrough

[lone crown]

Why isn’t Godzilla in Monster Hunter yet

Smh

[brittle garnet]

also kinsect slash is so fun

[next pier]

holy shit artemis from dmc5

[charred herald]

hey can't we just make silksong ourselves

[copper shore]

well that is not how you should do it

[fiery burrow]

Am I wrong

[copper shore]

Yeah

[cyan forum]

how old are you

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-iceborne-rajang-deviljho-gaming-wasted-gif-16877647

[fiery burrow]

Irrelevant

[brittle garnet]

i hate rise endgame and rise setbuilding but some of the weapon mechanics are really fun

[lone crown]

Holy shit godzilla king kong

[fiery burrow]

I honestly don't know how to begin with explaining that a dragon breathing fire is magical

[opaque sigil]

I like that wilds kept the rise swaxe changes

[gray parcel]

Mh fans when the cool monster beats up the cooler monster

[fiery burrow]

Its a dragon for one

[copper shore]

because you cannot !

[fiery burrow]

and its breathing fire for two

[brittle garnet]

i havent looked into the swaxe changes much

[opaque sigil]

just crammed all the switch skills together in one

[charred herald]

there are organisms on this earth which use boiling water beams as a means of attack

[frozen frigate]

yeah, i made my way to yhorm but didnt get the siegward cutscene so i went back and figured out how to continue siegwards questline. turns out i didn't find him in the well in cathedral of the deep so i forwarded his questline and now he SHOULD be able to fight yhorm with me. im just trying to rescue karla now i have the key for her cell, and then im gonna fight yhorm with siegward

[fiery burrow]

Those aren't stereotypical fantasy monsters in a fantasy world

[charred herald]

you can make up so much shit that isn't magic in fiction.

[violet path]

Just ate for 2 hours and yall still talking abt monsters?

[next pier]

silly you're a dark souls fan the series is literally the slightly cool monster(undead) beating the cooler monsters

[opaque sigil]

cfd is unbridled slash, it got a counter like the silkbind

[fiery burrow]

Using a stereotypical means of magical attacks

[brittle garnet]

i dislike how wilds insect glaive is looking tbh

[oblique musk]

Don’t forget to free him from his cell too.

[lone crown]

Did you ever go past pontiff’s arena

[frozen frigate]

nope

[brittle garnet]

i hope they give kinsects special effects

[opaque sigil]

it's a bit wonky, didn't use it too much but it felt ok?

[copper shore]

you do realise magic is supernatural powers that can't be explained yet rathalos' fire breathing can be

[lone crown]

Ok good

That’s how you progress

[fiery burrow]

No magic is explained in fantasy all the time have you watched Avatar the Last Airbender

[lone crown]

Also do you wish to know a missable area @frozen frigate

[frozen frigate]

hell yeah

[marsh ibex]

idc bruh take it to another channel or end it

[opaque sigil]

the controls to execute the super attack were a bit clumsy

[marsh ibex]

That is my final message on the matter

[cyan forum]

ok joker 😔

[fiery burrow]

We've moved on to another topic

[cyan forum]

it's been fun yall

[next pier]

please kill everyone whos still arguing

[brittle garnet]

altho wilds seems to have made bow into an actual weapon and hunting horn is looking very fun, i'll definitely be tooting in wilds

[lone crown]

Not sure if you’ve found it already, but you know the room you fight wolnir? Go back from that to the bridge and attack the bridge pillars until it breaks, wait for a moment and you can use the bridge as a ladder leading down

[cyan forum]

shoutout to @opaque sigil. had fun

[marsh ibex]

if you’ve moved on I am not speaking to you

[opaque sigil]

I like that charge blade added ways to just simply charge your shield and sword

[copper shore]

I mean the WORD dude

[gray parcel]

I play it for the baddie witches in every game

[brittle garnet]

charge blade my main... even stronger...

[opaque sigil]

and the db blade dance/demon flurry paradigm is fun enough but not that big a change

[fiery burrow]

i'm not talking about the word itself I'm using the word to describe a concept in fiction

[copper shore]

I'm done goodbye friends and bleeders ‼️

[charred herald]

but have you considered the fact that in some stories, using anatomical detail instead of just "yeah they fire magic" is better for the story, while in some instances it's just better for it to be "they fire magic"

[oblique musk]

Oh yeah the spot I don’t go to unless I have to because it sucks

[opaque sigil]

I want to get into charge blade but it's a lot to keep track of

[fiery burrow]

Sure

[brittle garnet]

i like they're switching away from an SAED focus for charge blade

[cyan forum]

arch, when wilds comes out, wanna play together?

[charred herald]

i see this as an absolute win

[lone crown]

Look I love the boss

[brittle garnet]

yeah but there might be issues for me

currently in a wonky situation

[cyan forum]

we could maybe see if frosty's available too. but i think he might still be in service

[brittle garnet]

we'll see

[shell yacht]

As punishment for like 2 hours of having bad takes you have to buy me wilds and this PlayStation 5

[oblique musk]

He’s barely a step above the guy you encounter on your way into the area.

[next pier]

also i dont know i remember you got your ass handed to you by samur maykr but do you like his fight

[lone crown]

I disagree

[brittle garnet]

i really hope wilds has some form of a player room and displaying caught endemic life, it was such a great thing in world

[coarse leaf]

no zero skill discharge for swaxe anymore 💔

[cyan forum]

in a couple month i promise 🙏

[next pier]

gen z is trying to cancel old demon king?

[lone crown]

||Old Demon King|| is fun and has some cool gimmicks

[cyan forum]

cause, i've struck gold with a really good paying job 😎

[finite flax]

diners, drive-ins and dives, and dolphins, and dinkles, and darts, and dorks, and dim lights, and deep seas, and dark rooms, and dank rooms, and dorms, and destruction, and death, and doughnuts, and deep sea diving gear, and deep sea diving, and deep cleaning, and deep reading, deep poetry, deep cleansing oil, deep cleansing shampoos, deep cleaners, deep cleaning brooms, depth gauges, dead mages, dark lamps, death cramps, darn, damn, dick, diddle, deacon, demon, and djinn, and damnation, and dirt, and dying, and dyes, and dies, and die, and dope, and dopamine, and donor, and darker, and dingy, and devils, and deviled eggs, and dandelions, ducks, dunks, drapes, drape, damn straight!

[opaque sigil]

maybe, the starter camp doesn't seem to but it's also not a proper town

[lone crown]

Mods get his ass

Thought i had you blocked

[frozen frigate]

why is it missable? does the area become inaccessible after a certain point in the story?

[brittle garnet]

it gets a lot easier once you get used to it

[finite flax]

damn why

[next pier]

yeah thats true yeah

[oblique musk]

Mr Electric, KILL HIM!

[opaque sigil]

I know I've done enough CB gameplay to like be able to win fights it just doesn't flow as well as say switch axe

[lone crown]

Oh sorry i meant missable as in you can walk past it

[brittle garnet]

problem is there isn't a proper town

[lone crown]

You can go back to it whenever

[opaque sigil]

there's a town but idk if it'll end up being a base

[brittle garnet]

there are multiple villages and base camps

[opaque sigil]

ofc

[brittle garnet]

i mean aside from the player camps

[opaque sigil]

I'm saying even though the base camp doesn't have a room once you unlock towns maybe it'll have one

[frozen frigate]

ah thats fair, is there anything down there that would be useful or like a miniboss or somrthing

[finite flax]

pressure, pooping down on you, pooping down on me

[brittle garnet]

i hope so

[lone crown]

An actual boss, a miniboss, some good loot

[brittle garnet]

i also hope they added rare endemic life again

[oblique musk]

Two Bone Shards and an Estus Shard

[gray parcel]

No

[frozen frigate]

TWO bone shards?

[next pier]

old demon king is an A tier boss imo

[oblique musk]

TWO bone shards!

[gray parcel]

Too hard for the difficulty

[frozen frigate]

hauling ass down there right now to be honest

[finite flax]

i am having A QUESIDALLA

[next pier]

personally i think he's the best boss in doom

[frozen frigate]

im gonna rescue karla first and then check it ouyt

[gray parcel]

Really?

[next pier]

i think doom the dark ages is gonna have way better bosses tho

[frozen frigate]

thanks for letting me know

[lone crown]

It does actually unique things which make it memorable imo

Plus the arena itself is a great homage to ||ds1||

[oblique musk]

Are you a pyromancer? If so, definitely check the place out.

[gray parcel]

Idk I liked the gladiator or The Father

[next pier]

the combat seems to work way better for 1 on 1 fights with enemies that have deep attacks

[next pier]

fuck you mean "the father"

davoth?

[brittle garnet]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FNNjzJT7fdnNM0dYI04AlMwJTWf54kLANJ_z1ZzKGnM/https/media.tenor.com/dh3KXyW6jmwAAAPo/axolotl-baby.mp4

[gray parcel]

Yeah

The betrayer

[next pier]

oh aight aight

the father 😭

[gray parcel]

The guy who ran away the whole game then got his ass beat

[oblique musk]

If I wanted to fight ||a demon boss whose arena is a reference to DS1||, I’d fight the ||Demon Princes||.

[opaque sigil]

dark ages might have fun bosses just because it has a parry mechanic which adds more defensive depth but imo shooters still have the limited range of offensive depth to be an issue

[lone crown]

That’s also a good fight

Both are good

[next pier]

davoth is a cool ass fight but admittedly i find him kinda shallow? like its just marauder+

wait how do you write admitedly

[opaque sigil]

admittedly

[next pier]

thanks

[oblique musk]

ODK’s only notable attack is the ring of fire, and the hitboxes on that are dogshit.

[lone crown]

Also i recommend playing ds3 at level 1 to any fans, it’s like a hard mode but not unbearably difficult. The difficulty felt just-right for me actually

[next pier]

i have had zero issues with the hitboxes on that atatck

[lone crown]

Also wear lloyd’s shield ring

[next pier]

attack

[frozen frigate]

karla is a child of the abyss huh

[lone crown]

Skill issue

That attack is good

[next pier]

i really like old demon king's moveset

[lone crown]

Agreed

[frozen frigate]

is that just her saying shes a bad person or is she actually related to the abyss in some way?

[next pier]

he's not particularly difficult

[next pier]

i mean she uses the like dark magic stuff

[oblique musk]

I beat Gael on my first try don’t you ever accuse me of skill issues you whippersnapper

[fiery burrow]

hornet??

[next pier]

which idk if its related to the abyss but im pretty sure theres at least one abyss spell there right

[frozen frigate]

alright lets go give karla all of my shit

got some divine braille tomes and some pyromancy scrolls for hyer

[lone crown]

I’m only jesting but trust me that flame ring isn’t that bad

Give demon king a chance

[oblique musk]

Pretty sure all of the spells she can sell you from the Deep Braille Tome and the Grave Warden tome are abyss related.

[lone crown]

Also demon king’s combustion gives the fight a really nice flow at melee

Like its not egregious or anything

[next pier]

the combustion is the ball right

[lone crown]

No, melee flame burst

[frozen frigate]

it would appear greirat is dead

[next pier]

when does he do that

[oblique musk]

😐

[lone crown]

All the time when you’re next to him

[next pier]

is it the move where he makes a ball

and then explodes it in your face

[oblique musk]

Yes

[lone crown]

Oh it might be that one and im misremembering

Lmao

Sorry

[next pier]

so it is the ball 😭

[gray parcel]

Gael isn’t that hard

[frozen frigate]

where the hell is karla at firelink

[lone crown]

It didnt look like a ball to me

[next pier]

while looking at andre at the bridge
got to the left and shell be below the stair there

[oblique musk]

Under the stairs near where Greirat is. Or, in your case, where he was.

[shell yacht]

I thought she was around the corner in the opposite side of the room

I should replay that soon

[oblique musk]

That’s Irina

[frozen frigate]

ah i see

[lone crown]

Here this attack, found footage rq

[frozen frigate]

i accidentally r2'd her whoops

[shell yacht]

Really right in front of karla

[next pier]

yeah he makes a ball before bursting it

[lone crown]

Combustion pyromancy plus ball animation

[frozen frigate]

could you elaborate on what this means

[shell yacht]

Isn't she the blind one you were just talking about, or do I have them mixed up again

[next pier]

no

[frozen frigate]

yeah you have them mixed up

[next pier]

irina blind

karla see

[shell yacht]

Godamit

[oblique musk]

Blind one is irina

[gray parcel]

Y’all, I think fire giant is a good boss ngl

Hot take

[wheat sail]

my name is edwin. son. i made the mimic. twas very hard. edwin. to join the pieces. edwin.

[lone crown]

Fire giant is my least favorite remembrance boss in Elden Ring not because it’s bad, it’s just less good than the rest

[oblique musk]

Take so hot you could burn the Erdtree down

[lone crown]

Also mountaintops in general is noticeably more undercooked than other areas

[opaque sigil]

consider:
it is because it is in elden ring that it is bad

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-bubble-text-gif-27609101

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/prisoner-elden-ring-chang-fire-gif-25008888

[frozen frigate]

i thought these tomes would give her more spells to teach me

[oblique musk]

Yeah, you get the sense that there (and snowfield) were the last areas the devs worked on, and they were running short on time.

[next pier]

speaking of is this tierlist particularly bad

only bosses i've beaten so far

[lone crown]

They removed the route from deeproot depths to mountaintops/consecrated

[frozen frigate]

i gave her the grave warden pyromancy tome and the 2 divine braille tomes that i didnt want to give to irina and she is selling 9 spells

[lone crown]

They had a route planned for that

[oblique musk]

Is it in terms of difficulty, or how good they are?

[next pier]

how fun i found them

(fun is objective)

[rustic ore]

Fire Giant is better when you go for his hands and not his legs in phase 2

[lone crown]

||Champion gundyr|| at B??????

[gray parcel]

I think dragon slayer armor is brought down bc of its second appearance in the DLC

[violet path]

Silly feller

[gray parcel]

Yeeeessss?

[oblique musk]

It’s dogshit. No way you put the Abyss Watchers in the same tier as the fucking Greatwood.

[frozen frigate]

dragonslayer armour? like the old dragonslayer in ds2? like ornstein in ds1?

[next pier]

if it was difficulty deacons of the deep would be shamefully high

[violet path]

I keep go gym but no get gains

[gray parcel]

You would not believe what I’m about to tell you

[oblique musk]

Actually, it has a totally different appearance and moveset this time.

[violet path]

My dieting is all screwed up and idk how to fix it at this point

[gray parcel]

Eat more protein?

[next pier]

okay but consider this
i get to fight the boss i had a lot of fun fighting even more

[shell yacht]

This is worse than any tier list I ever made

[gray parcel]

How much sleep are you getting,

[frozen frigate]

this is unacceptable what the fuck

[next pier]

oh yeah its also like

place it is in the tier matters

[shell yacht]

Eggs and peanut butter

[fiery burrow]

You put apple pie in F tier dawg

[gray parcel]

One is peak and the other is abyss watchers

[rustic ore]

This tierlist flips between “Sure” and “bitch what the fuck” like a goddamn coin

[next pier]

okay TRUE

[violet path]

Like what

[next pier]

so what are the problems

[lone crown]

Fire giant is also probably the jankiest fight, ONLY ONCE in my 1,260 hours of playing, the fire giant was breathing flames with it’s breath attack at me which I evaded normally, then literally five seconds after the attack ends I die because the fire trail that went past me somehow collided into several objects in the arena which redirected the flame trail to exactly where I was standing in a U-shaped route

[frozen frigate]

why did they make PATCHES a game-hopping bastard but not atleast some variation of ornstein a game-hopping bastard. what the hell

[violet path]

Idk what to buy at the store

[oblique musk]

Once the fire giant did its belly breath attack and my entire fucking computer just froze. I had to disconnect that shit from the wall and power it all the way off.

[oblique musk]

Patience. You’ll see where he ended up eventually.

[lone crown]

I was doing this on stream in a VC during some special run and I went ballistic

[rustic ore]

-Abyss Watchers and Tree sharing the same tier should be considered a hate crime

-Oceiros blows chunks

-Old Demon King being so high

-Champion not being higher than Iudex, but that’s fine tbh

[rustic ore]

bc thats not as funny

[lone crown]

Champion is one of the best fights in DS3

[next pier]

champion is higher than ludex?

[rustic ore]

I mean like a separate tier

[next pier]

im gonna be real

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-yo-tone-dark-souls-hehehehahahah-ringle-dingle-iudex-gundyr-gif-26585569

[next pier]

i just parried them to death

[rustic ore]

(and it’s an I not an L)

(“iudex” means “judge”)

[next pier]

i would probably have had more fun if i actually dodged them

[lone crown]

He’s extemely fun to dodge

[oblique musk]

What does “champion” mean?

[next pier]

no its ludex cause ludex sounds funnier

[next pier]

its like a mushroom

[rustic ore]

(“champion” means “winner”)

[oblique musk]

(thanks)

[formal marsh]

GENSHIN REFERENCE

[frozen frigate]

and patches is? i hate patches more than anything. i hated him in ds1 and i hate him for making me prance around cathedral of the deep trying to get my buddy's armour back that he STOLE. fuck patches. all my homies hate patches

[formal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/neuv-neuvillette-neuvilette-neuvillette-genshin-genshin-neuvillette-gif-17983122982536272985

[violet path]

[lone crown]

Gundyr canonically fights you at Level 1

[rustic ore]

I never did get the funny waterboy

[next pier]

also for curserotted greatwood i honestly just dont see why people hate it so much

[oblique musk]

Patches is best character ever what the hell are you talking about

[violet path]

Thats a boy?

[oblique musk]

Source?

[next pier]

it wasnt a fight with a deep moveset dont get me wrong

[formal marsh]

the undisputed best dps in the game 🙏 (i dont have him either)

[frozen frigate]

trying to fight this fire demon and its flame breath accidentally woke up the mimic on the ledge above

[rustic ore]

First of all: The music sounds like someone died on the organ

[formal marsh]

i may have been saving for arle when he came out but i forgor

[shell yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793128374213279776/1301702044586872842/ThatsItGetInTheWoodChipper-1.gif

[rustic ore]

That’s a grown ass man

[lone crown]

His fire keeper died before he rose

[formal marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/840942650525614081/1342583535948533962/worm.gif

[gray parcel]

Meat, high protein stuff

[violet path]

Hes very pretty

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/neuvillette-genshin-genshin-impact-party-setup-animation-gif-11461898419679023958

[next pier]

but i didnt find any of its moves annoying
they were all easy to dodge

the enemies in the arena were easy to avoid and i found it really hilarious to see the wood kill them

[oblique musk]

Yeah? 9 out of the 10 starting classes don’t start at level 1, did they know a firekeeper in their past life?

[formal marsh]

press e (makes bubbles)
press q (makes bubbles)
absorb bubbles
???
every enemy in the vicinity is dead

[rustic ore]

Navia cooler anyway

[violet path]

This is why youre my fav mod

[formal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/neuvillette-360-gif-15490464779572501914

[rustic ore]

Gunbrella gaming

[formal marsh]

true having what is basically a shotgun is awesome

[lone crown]

Shit you got me there aint gonna lie

[formal marsh]

though i dont have her
arle and clorinde are my only fontaine 5*

[rustic ore]

Literally Biden Blasts everything into oblivion

[formal marsh]

got arle on her debut and clorinde on her rerun

[next pier]

i thought it was a pretty cool gimmick
it was basic but i found it pretty satisfying to burst the sacs and kill it

[rustic ore]

I never got Navia

I am STILL salty about it

[violet path]

Oh no not genshin discussion

[next pier]

i would gladly fight it again right now

[next pier]

also im gonna uh be honest i dont really uh

[formal marsh]

i love that people said navia saved geo when in reality she was just a good geo character (geo is still dead in a ditch)

[sacred gate]

When ss

[next pier]

i rarely notice music while playing videogames

[rustic ore]

WHAT

[formal marsh]

WHAT

[next pier]

like it just goes through one ear and through the other

idk

[gray parcel]

Time to leave chat

[next pier]

there are exceptions

[shell yacht]

?sspsa @sacred gate

[white sail]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[frozen frigate]

me too

except for ds3

[frozen frigate]

its kinda impossible to not notice the music

[sacred gate]

YEAH HHH