sk-discussion

[uncut elk]

What about the sand version

[sinful flare]

play tetris effect connected idk

[misty reef]

No silksong?

[jagged basin]

damn my gif got de-gif'd

[trim fjord]

Favorite tetris piece?

[violet path]

1x4

[sinful flare]

the one thats 3x3

[lone crown]

L/J or Ts

[sinful flare]

i like the J piece it fits into many misdrops i make

[lone crown]

My biggest opp is the 2x2

Actually its not even that bad

Still smelly though

[sinful flare]

if you stack good enough you wont have any hatred towards pieces

unless you play classic nes tetris

then uhh

gg

<@&283547423706447872> free steam gift ?????

o

[wanton eagle]

sure

[lone crown]

Only thing i stack is dough

[sinful flare]

based karkers

[lone crown]

The fuck is karkers

[sinful flare]

i mean krakers

[broken tartan]

Kraken like krakenslayer

[sinful flare]

i will either 4 5 stack and actually dont overstack for once or i will korean stack and misdrop 5 times in a row

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[sinful flare]

i need to see t spins better

i have issues visualizing placements in my head

[lone crown]

I know nothing about tetris lingo

What the fuck is korean stack

Actually dont answer that

[shell yacht]

I assume it's when the L piece is upside down and backwards

[sinful flare]

korean stack is a meme where you only clear single line clears

[broken tartan]

Korea is a region in league

[wheat sail]

its when the north and south stack create a tetris

[sinful flare]

in vs tetris single line clears dont send any line of garbage at all

[lone crown]

Thats the only correct method to play

[shell yacht]

Tetris lingo is something else

[wheat sail]

https://tenor.com/view/faker-shush-gif-11473756061879643280

are koreans infamously bad at tetris or what

[lone crown]

Not as bad as TF2 yeti-cancelling

[wheat sail]

whys it the korean stack

[sinful flare]

turkish people are better at league than korean people (we ff more often)

[sinful flare]

idk

also tetris lingo

theres basically just SRS which is the default kick table for kicking pieces when a normally invalid rotation state is detected, t spins are just spinning t pieces after softdropping them into an immobile position and theyre very common in vs tetris

and much other tetris lingo are just opener names or t spin stacking techniques

[broken tartan]

Turks mind control the ennemy team to make them ff

[lone crown]

I’m so hungry I could eat a…

[sinful flare]

opener main

gef we should 1v1 in tetris fr

[lone crown]

Nah I’d lose

[sinful flare]

ok i coach you

[lone crown]

Nah I’d implode

[sinful flare]

surely never

[lone crown]

What if i coach you on gambling

Its practically the same as tetris

[sinful flare]

tetra league is basically gambling

thankfully i quit both

[lone crown]

Disappointment…

Now go fetch me a beer

[opaque sigil]

@fiery burrow you gotta get the sunbreak switch skills they're insane

[atomic sparrow]

no

[lone crown]

Another question about MH

[sinful flare]

we can play tetr.io quickplay2 duo instead its another form of gambling

[lone crown]

Does the gameplay require teammates/assist or is it possible to just delete everything yourself

[opaque sigil]

you can do everything yourself, the games have little pet buddies who can do things, the rise expansion and wilds also have optional npc hunters

well in rise it's not optional you have to use one of them

[lone crown]

Ah okay

[open narwhal]

?tag kaan's hair

OK but why is

[lone crown]

Is kaan bald

[open narwhal]

it still not working

[open narwhal]

baldest of them all, even

[lone crown]

Dyno broke recently and it’s led to a massive resurgence of those steam scams since Dyno’s filter is randomly on and off

[open narwhal]

wtf I missed gift cards...

[opaque sigil]

the only issue with solo play I've had historically is that compared to multiplayer the monster is on you way fucking more but with the npc hunters it's not as much of an issue

[lone crown]

Of course, makes sense to me

One person equals only one target for something to aggro on

[opaque sigil]

yeah

they sometimes attack the pets but not nearly as often as players is how it seems to me

[lone crown]

Is there like a dodge with iframes like dark souls or something or does avoiding damage taken depend more on positioning in advance

[opaque sigil]

your dodge has iframes but positioning is still pretty important

[lone crown]

Oh okay

[stark estuary]

Your cats suck

[opaque sigil]

look I use the healer one because it's nice sue me

[lone crown]

And while we’re on the subject is there a stamina bar

[opaque sigil]

yeah

it's the yellow

[lone crown]

Oh okay

Yeah that bar looks massive

[opaque sigil]

it's pretty generous and mostly only comes into play if you're not eating or are using a weapon that consumes it

[stark estuary]

Gathering Fighter or bust

[lone crown]

Huh maybe it wont feel so foreign to me after all (the idea behind the gameplay)

[broken tartan]

@oswald hair

[opaque sigil]

cry about it the ailment cure cloud has been clutch many a time

[open narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/rapunzel-tangled-brushing-hair-gif-17082976991477226587

literally me

[broken tartan]

Youre a girl?

[open narwhal]

no I'm modern day rapunzel

[broken tartan]

Thats so gay

[stark estuary]

tbf healing cat is nice

[open narwhal]

anyone can be rapunzel

[stark estuary]

Gathering cat better though

[opaque sigil]

I can gather my own shit

[stark estuary]

Fighter has buffing and can do decent damage sometimes

But you use it for the buffing

[stark estuary]

Gathering does so much more than that though

It has a status spam move

Also pilfer

Extra monster mats

[opaque sigil]

eh rise is super generous with mats anyways

[lone crown]

🤨

[stark estuary]

Also hot take I love Palamutes but Palicos are just infinitely more useful

[opaque sigil]

also can't stress enough how important vase of vitality can be

[lone crown]

Is grinding required

[opaque sigil]

they are but you can ride the palamutes and it's too annoying not to have them

[opaque sigil]

yes

[stark estuary]

The entire game is grinding

[opaque sigil]

well

sort of

[lone crown]

I mean for progression in missions/expeditions/whatever they’re called

[opaque sigil]

depends on how hard you want to make things on yourself

[carmine island]

Well I hope you’re happy then

[stark estuary]

Not really you can get by with minimal grinding

[opaque sigil]

for completing missions individually no, but new gear requires materials

I would say it only gets super grindy in like postgame

unless you're very unlucky

[stark estuary]

Rise is an easy game and more generous with parts than most classic MHs

[opaque sigil]

you can also just do ore tree or whatever which is easier to get parts for

[stark estuary]

Real ones remember the true grind for Helios Z armor

tl;dr dogshit underwater combat combined with a boss that has stupid amounts of health and is a pain to fight

And to make matters worse the armor requires multiple rare parts from other monsters

[opaque sigil]

that one time I had to hunt like 20 bazels for a plate to make the weapons which I then barely used

bazel is an amazing fight tho so wtv

[stark estuary]

You know Gen U was stupidly generous with Glavenus parts for some reason

I never wanted Glavenus gear aside from using its DBs for a short while

[cyan forum]

Underwater combat was perfectly fine

[stark estuary]

Ended up with like 50 plates 20 something gems and a couple palliums or whatever the g rank one was called

[stark estuary]

No it wasn’t don’t lie to yourself

Nobody enjoyed fighting Goldbeard

[lucid holly]

I love water levels

[opaque sigil]

I didn't actually play 3u but it sounds rough

[shell yacht]

Kirb just can't swim

[stark estuary]

There’s not actually that much water combat

[stark estuary]

Goldbeard was ass bro don’t kid yourself

[cyan forum]

what weapon did you use lol

[shell yacht]

The water combat is great

[cyan forum]

and on what platform

[stark estuary]

You people are crazy

I played Tri on Wii and 3U on Wii U

[opaque sigil]

it's powdered what do you expect but the worst possible takes

[stark estuary]

Was a DB main but dabbled in SA

Yes ik DB water sucks

SA was also ass

[shell yacht]

The only real answer for underwater is Lance

Don't tell star

[valid sable]

Dragon Ball Water

[cyan forum]

lance and gs in water works like a charm

[stark estuary]

Ok but you see the problem right

[worn valley]

A charm

[cyan forum]

and having a controller with actual sticks also helps wondeds

[shell yacht]

Swinging a great sword attack underwater for it to fucking swish is so much worse than on land

Yeah I bought a wii pro controller to play monster Hunter

[stark estuary]

I had a pro controller too

Also even Lance and GS aren’t very fun they’re just… functional

Out of every BM weapon there are two that aren’t awful to use underwater

That’s not good game design

[shell yacht]

Skill issue

[cyan forum]

you need them to shoot out laser beams and wrestle the monsters like it's wwe?

[stark estuary]

Bruh

[cyan forum]

like in gu?

[stark estuary]

😐

[cyan forum]

i agree with the fact that some weapons should have been implemented better

it's as you say, some are just straight better than others

[stark estuary]

“The combat was cumbersome but that’s deliberate!”

[stark estuary]

It’s not even that

[cyan forum]

but water combat in itself was and still is perfectly serviceable

[shell yacht]

When I say there's two good options I'm speaking specifically about the ceadeus fight, and that's the fault of the fight being lao shaolung underwater, it doesn't stop moving and you're constantly trying to keep up with it and just keep whacking it, except this time no siege weapons until it stops moving

[opaque sigil]

The way mh progression works if only some weapons are functional underwater that’s kind of a huge fucking problem?

[stark estuary]

It’s not a case of some being better than others it’s a case of most just being fucking annoying to play

Sure you can get by it’s not fun

[wheat sail]

just add water resistance to it

[stark estuary]

And inb4 Powdered skill issues me again I never said I found it difficult

I said it wasn’t fun

[cyan forum]

no it's just that some weapons are just straight up better

[shell yacht]

Fissue

[cyan forum]

like in rise.

[stark estuary]

That is true of every MH game never has it been true to such a ridiculous degree as 3rd gen water combat

It’s not that GS and Lance are better it’s that the others barely function as intended

[wheat sail]

good thing mh wilds is in a desert

[cyan forum]

do you like gen 1-2 combat?

[stark estuary]

Not really but I prefer it to 3rd gen water

FU is a fine game

The others are pretty ass

[cyan forum]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/09560c9304121a1737129257a691312d/tumblr_oj7pzpcxwd1tlb56zo1_400.gif

[stark estuary]

Also there are several other factors that make underwater combat annoying

Poor mobility and slower combos instantly shafts any fast weapon for starters
Getting hit results in an absurdly long cooldown animation
Water pressure is obnoxious
Everything is incredibly slow even the fucking camera
Swimming consumes more stamina than running making getting from point A to point B an absolute chore
I could go on

I don't doubt that some people may enjoy it but it was a clusterfuck when it came to the mechanics and it’s no surprise that they got rid of it in future titles

[cyan forum]

there's a lowcost skill that makes you 75% faster

[opaque sigil]

Wilds does have swimming but you’re basically on rails and can’t even attack

You can snag materials with your wrist launcher thing though which is neat

[stark estuary]

That doesn’t resolve the issue and running it means not running another low cost skill that actually contributes to combat

[cyan forum]

polar mobility-type faster

[stark estuary]

Also most water monsters are kinda ass

[cyan forum]

did you like lagiacrus

[stark estuary]

There’s not that many of them truthfully

[wheat sail]

🐟 💢

[stark estuary]

Ivory Lagi was way better than regular Lagi because it didn’t go in the water as much

[cyan forum]

LMFAO

aight then

[stark estuary]

But Lagi is being the only water monster that’s not awful doesn’t really help your case much

Also Abyssal Lagi sucks

But its armor set is dogshit so who cares

Lucent Narga tho 😘

[cunning geode]

just make the whole game underwater

[shell yacht]

And y'all thought I had bad takes

[cyan forum]

lucent is an alright fight but the monsters as a concept is just nahh

[cunning geode]

oh its not a take im just confirming it

[violet path]

I didn’t think that

[cyan forum]

ALRIGHT FIGHT IN SUNBREAK LMFAO

[stark estuary]

Anyway aside from Lagi there’s
Ludroth and Gobul who are nothingburgers
Plesioth lmao
Ceadeus who fucking sucks
Dire Miralis?
What else even was there

[cunning geode]

fish

not many

[shell yacht]

Sharks

[stark estuary]

Sharqs*

[cunning geode]

thats a feesh

[stark estuary]

Sharq Attaq

Best Lance

[cyan forum]

i bet this guy likes magnamalo

[shell yacht]

Is that the one with the no swimming sign for a shield

[stark estuary]

I don’t actually

[lone crown]

You’re not safe

[stark estuary]

I’m not Star

[shell yacht]

Midnamalo it's just Zinogre on crack

[cunning geode]

theyre both fun...

[stark estuary]

Magnamalo is Stygian if it was trying too hard

But it’s not a bad fight or anything

[brittle garnet]

both magna and zin are hella overrated

[shell yacht]

I think it's ability to fucking power fart its way into the air is absolutely fucking ridiculous aside from that it's a normal decent monster

[cunning geode]

its funnn

not as fun as magmadron though 👹

[cyan forum]

YEAHHH

then make a monster that actually fit's said fun fight

magnamalo looks ai generated

[cunning geode]

wha

[stark estuary]

What did Magnamalo do to you 😭

It looks fine, the fight is fine

[brittle garnet]

magnamalo is a terrible monster hunter monster design

it feels out of place

[shell yacht]

Yeah thinking about it, magnamalo is just pretending to be link in breath of the wild fucking bomb skipping into the air

[south portal]

Am i the only one thats lowkey gonna miss the knight in ss?

[opaque sigil]

Magnamalo isn’t out of place in rise at all what

[brittle garnet]

in Rise*

[lilac gyro]

you are the only one to think

[stark estuary]

I hate this take so much
Like fucking Valstrax is right here but you go after Magnamalo????

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/sekiro-monkey-gif-22083763

[shell yacht]

This entirely depends on whether or not hornet makes a stupid decision that we don't have control over

[brittle garnet]

but he's like, frontier tier almost

[stark estuary]

????

Magnamalo is less frontier-y than most elders what

[cunning geode]

frontier is calling

[cyan forum]

don't act like this is true asf

[brittle garnet]

well Valstrax did it first and is thus cool, Magnamalo is copying it thus is lame

[south portal]

nah, i dont like hornet that much tho😭
plus i just really like the knights design

[stark estuary]

Look I love Valstrax but this Magnamalo hate is crazy

[shell yacht]

Valstrax is a jet-powered dragon that overheats, magnamalo is speed running any percent all glitches in breath of the wild

[brittle garnet]

also it fits for Valstrax because it's an elder dragon

elder dragons are supposed to be basicaly magic

magnamalo has no excuse

[cunning geode]

oh and none of the other giant dinosaurs are magic

[brittle garnet]

nope

[cunning geode]

right 👹

live a little

[stark estuary]

Lmao

[cyan forum]

but for magna they just went "yeahh let's slap on some fucking samurai armor and give him swords and a samurai mask and make him glow yeahhhh"

[stark estuary]

Yeah because no MH monster ever has ever had fantastical features or glowed

[shell yacht]

sans eye intensifies

[cunning geode]

pasta approaches

[wheat sail]

Kids like you... should be burning in hell 👁️ 🔵

[opaque sigil]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/7/72/MHRise-Magnamalo_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20200917143525

[wheat sail]

🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴 🦴

[stark estuary]

Soulseer is a thing but you probably think GU gets a pass because that’s the “point” or whatever

[shell yacht]

Gee you did a lot of weird shit that came out borderline cool borderline edgy

Gee you

I hate this phone

[stark estuary]

Brachydios is literally a boxer with explosive fists and everyone loves it’s ass

How is Magnamalo more ridiculous than Brachy

[opaque sigil]

It’s FINE

[stark estuary]

I’m not even going to mention the Generations flagships

[lone crown]

Havent played a single game so my input is meaningless but whats the problem with magnamalo, is it because oni mask japanese purple flames is not as original or interesting compared to valstrax

[cyan forum]

yes and they have all almost always been either bullshit from Generations or elder dragons

[shell yacht]

Because Magnamalo flies up in the air on its fucking farts, besides the lame looking samurai as style that's my only gripe

[opaque sigil]

Some people are lame and have no joy in their hearts

[fiery burrow]

I missed malo slander?

[lone crown]

I think its cool

[stark estuary]

Star these people are crazy

[shell yacht]

You're just in time

[brittle garnet]

it's like the difference between shadow the hedgehog vs coldsteel the hedgehog original character donut steel

[fiery burrow]

Its cool

[cyan forum]

DUDE, MAGNA LOOKS STUPID THAT'S ABOUT IT

[brittle garnet]

oh magnamalo is a good and fun fight

but in-universe i don't like it

[fiery burrow]

No? Its inspired by a saber-tooth cat and samurai armor thats cool af

[opaque sigil]

Pretending the magna design is like outrageously bizarre is some insane cope

[brittle garnet]

it's excessive for sure

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/valstrax-gif-21884902

[stark estuary]

Magnamalo’s shit isn’t even that far divorced from like Zinogre

[fiery burrow]

Its because its in Rise pretty sure

[stark estuary]

You give Elders and Generations the pass but there have always been monsters like this

[brittle garnet]

zinogre is also overrated and excessive so that's correct

[opaque sigil]

It’s pretty similar

[shell yacht]

Zinogre doesn't look like it's trying to wear armor

It's just a really big thunder wolf

[opaque sigil]

Nor does magnamalo

[cunning geode]

guys i think rathalos is lame and too far for me to believe living in the same universe as humans

[cyan forum]

yes it does what.

[opaque sigil]

It’s evocative of armor it doesn’t literally look like it’s wearing it

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/brachydios-tantrum-punch-jojo-monster-hunter-gif-23321299

I love realism!

[fiery burrow]

Malo is clearly not wearing armor

[brittle garnet]

magnamalo is just, excessive. The unfolding arm blades and unfolding tail spear and unfolding saber teeth and unfolding back spikes and the story trying to play it up and make it look so cool like bleh

[opaque sigil]

Look at a fucking magnamalo

[shell yacht]

Who said anything about realism

[lone crown]

I think magnamalo is meant to be what the armor is representing more like

[cyan forum]

do NOT start this. the realism debate is done to death

[fiery burrow]

That one scene where Armstrong is punching Raiden into the ground

[lone crown]

Instead of the other way around where its trying to imitate the armor

But idk

[stark estuary]

What’s so egregious about Magnamalo then

[opaque sigil]

Mate it’s a fuckin flagship

Have you even seen a gore magala

[brittle garnet]

yeah it's excessive

yes

[stark estuary]

“It’s an Elder so it’s fine 🤓 “

[fiery burrow]

Malo isn't even all that relevant to the story its not played up or anything it has that one cutscene at the end of a rampage

[cyan forum]

gore is a thousand times better than magna

it's a centipede dragon

that's about it

[opaque sigil]

No???

[fiery burrow]

Only MH fans will complain about something being too cool

[stark estuary]

I love Gore as much as the next guy but stop pretending Magnamalo is out of place

[cunning geode]

gore is better than gore?

[opaque sigil]

It’s a like fallen angel dragon or some shit

[stark estuary]

Gore isn’t a centipede bruh

[brittle garnet]

i'm not pretending at all

no Gore definitely has some centipede motif to it

[opaque sigil]

Magnamalo is perfectly in place in rise

[brittle garnet]

but i wouldn't describe it as centipede dragon

[cunning geode]

i HAVE seen fanart of a centipede dragon for MH

hold on

[stark estuary]

It’s not a centipede dragon

[brittle garnet]

now we have the centipede leviathan in Wilds

so wtv

[brittle garnet]

i said motif.

it's more noticeable in the armor but still

[stark estuary]

This is what a centipede dragon would look like

[shell yacht]

Hold on where the fuck do you get centipede from a four armed no-eyed leatherwing looking glowing caterpillar horn ass dragon

[cyan forum]

oh my god

[brittle garnet]

no this does not read much like a centipede sorry

[cyan forum]

we don't mean a literal centipede, as in how dalamadur is literally a snake

[stark estuary]

I was making a joke

That’s Grima from Fire Emblem

[cunning geode]

https://www.deviantart.com/gugenheim98/art/Rymukada-Monster-Hunter-Fan-Concept-858009324
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/515fb444-f021-46ec-a63d-4bd4ab40b49d/de6u48c-edd7b0bb-2ab4-4c6e-ab5f-d91443472dd1.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzUxNWZiNDQ0LWYwMjEtNDZlYy1hNjNkLTRiZDRhYjQwYjQ5ZFwvZGU2dTQ4Yy1lZGQ3YjBiYi0yYWI0LTRjNmUtYWI1Zi1kOTE0NDM0NzJkZDEucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8hi9ukNl9JkZsHZuRpRwaonkNAJQImAURKN9O9nrVuQ

[brittle garnet]

there are certain design elements

[cunning geode]

mm no embeds

hold on

[cyan forum]

gore's "horns" are feelers

[fiery burrow]

oh cool

[shell yacht]

I don't get any kind of a centipede vibe from any part of that monster

[opaque sigil]

Looks uncannily like an almudron

[brittle garnet]

yeah well i don't blame you

but it's there

[fiery burrow]

Almudrons aren't half bad tbh

[stoic sigil]

Silk.

[cunning geode]

i think the idea is they are accounting for it using the almudron rig!

which is interesting

[stark estuary]

Yes because centipedes are the only animals with feelers

[brittle garnet]

also saying that magnamalo isn't that flashy compared to many other monsters i think is just not true

[brittle garnet]

it looks like a centipede's feelers and its face looks centipede-like

[opaque sigil]

Yeah I like the whole eastern dragon rep though narwa ibushi and Amatsu also exist

[violet path]

Every sigma is a star

[fiery burrow]

Every star is a sigma

[stark estuary]

Don’t really see it aside from like the armor

[cyan forum]

it's a black and red glossy monster with no eyes and odd insectoid features.

[fiery burrow]

In rise I'd say so

[brittle garnet]

i think even in Rise, but i'm not talking about just rise anyway

[cyan forum]

and it just so happens that centipedes are representative of death and disease in japanese culture

[fiery burrow]

yeah we all played Sekiro

[brittle garnet]

though to be real, Dalamadur is the one that's inspired by a centipede

most likely

[stark estuary]

Gore isn’t red it’s purple and it’s black to contrast with Shagaru and represent death

[opaque sigil]

Bro has never seen the color red

[brittle garnet]

it has dark red parts it's hard to see usually but it's there

[cyan forum]

the stillborn bastard that is the model in Sunbreak doesn't count

[stark estuary]

The dark red isn’t one of its primary colors

[opaque sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/gore-magala-monster-hunter-gif-19125167

[stark estuary]

Claiming it’s black and red is inaccurate

[brittle garnet]

cope

[cyan forum]

is it insectoid or not

[opaque sigil]

Ah yes clearly the design is meant to be red

[opaque sigil]

No

Are you blind

[stark estuary]

Insectoid features are also a go to if you want to make something look alien

It looks pretty freaky I wouldn’t call it a centipede though

[cyan forum]

my favorite alien, astalos

[brittle garnet]

i didn't say it's a centipede dragon, just that it has some centipede motif in its design

i also wouldn't call it a centipede

[stark estuary]

Astalos also looks pretty freaky yes

[cyan forum]

yes but it's not trying to be an alien???????

[stark estuary]

Neither is Gore

It’s almost like that wasn’t my point

[opaque sigil]

Do you know what the word alien means

Because it’s not just space alien

[cyan forum]

omfg

[shell yacht]

Okay I had to separate a cat fight did we find the centipede features on Gore?

[vivid belfry]

Oh, that's gore of my centipede character

[fiery burrow]

You had to separate a cat (Khezu) fight (Turf War)

[cyan forum]

this started with the obvious observation that magnamalo looks out of place in monster hunter btw

[brittle garnet]

anyways magnamalo very clearly tries too hard to be cool

[fiery burrow]

It is cool

[shell yacht]

Literally yes, he's an asshole like 40% of the time

[fiery burrow]

Samurais are cool magic samurais are cooler

[cyan forum]

i'd agree if i was 12 years old

[brittle garnet]

it has surpassed cool and took a step into cringe

[stark estuary]

It’s not out of place it’s consistent with the game’s aesthetic

Just admit you don’t like it

[fiery burrow]

You're just too afraid to enjoy awesome things

[stark estuary]

You’re acting like MH has never had outlandish designs

[fiery burrow]

Growing up is realizing samurais are dope

[brittle garnet]

we don't like it because it's too flashy

[cyan forum]

yes with rise's semi-frontier bullshit

[opaque sigil]

Cope harder ig

[stark estuary]

This is insane cope ngl

[opaque sigil]

Real

[stark estuary]

Only MH fans would hate something for being too cool

[cyan forum]

it simply is

[shell yacht]

Not onnce ever

[brittle garnet]

though the designs in Wilds really seem to have veered into unfamiliar directions

[fiery burrow]

thats what i said

[copper shore]

check out my designs ->

[cyan forum]

i think elden ring is cool, but i wouldn't want astel in my mh game

[oblique musk]

Astel would slap in any game tbh

[brittle garnet]

no i'm not

[oblique musk]

Design goes hard as hell

[cyan forum]

magna looks like it's from azura's wrath

[naive pier]

Call me a believer, but I think that silksong will most likely release in 2025

[brittle garnet]

yes

[stark estuary]

???

[opaque sigil]

Magna really isn’t that weird I don’t see y’all whining about arkveld

[copper shore]

welcome to the server

[naive pier]

Oh no, I’ve been here for some time

[fiery burrow]

Astel would be out of place because it was designed with ER's cosmic horror aesthetic in mind. Magnamalo was designed with Rise's very overtly Japanese inspired setting in mind

[brittle garnet]

i think arkveld is less outwardly flashy

[naive pier]

Just, how much longer can a game take to make

[shell yacht]

I haven't gotten a good enough to look at it in movement yet

[lone crown]

A lot longer

[shell yacht]

As long as it needs

[oblique musk]

Yeah, I said the same thing in 2020, and 2021, and 2022, and 2023 (and I REALLY thought that would be the one considering they straight up said it would be), and 2024, and have been wrong every time.

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/gaben-cave-johnson-potato-phone-gabe-newell-gif-27410220

[copper shore]

I mean I think arkveld is kind of stupid and ridiculous but the design isn't bad

[brittle garnet]

but we can't judge arkveld yet because we don't know all the context

[fiery burrow]

Arkveld is a dude with magic whips that has an element that explodes when it comes into contact with the air

[stark estuary]

Magna is a flagship it’s obviously going to be flashier than the average monster

[opaque sigil]

Lmao

Like you care about context???

[cyan forum]

not too fond of arkvelds whips either, but at least he doesn't go around wearing- oh i mean having evolved literal european plate armor

[fiery burrow]

Overdesigned garbage it doesn't fit with the aesthetic 0/10

[opaque sigil]

You’ve actively ignored magna’s context

[brittle garnet]

i have not

[opaque sigil]

Yes you have

[shell yacht]

Context doesn't really matter for a design because I don't think anybody cooked up a fucking monster in a lab here

[stark estuary]

If you cared about context you would appreciate that Magna is right at home in Rise

[cunning geode]

who is to say they didnt get the idea of samurai armor from magnamalo...

[brittle garnet]

whatever you say

[cyan forum]

that he's supposed to be inspired by a samurai???????

[opaque sigil]

Nor does magnamalo

[brittle garnet]

i don't think magna is right at home even in rise

ive said this

[opaque sigil]

That’s fine you’re wrong

[cyan forum]

HE LITERALLY WEARS SAMURAI ARMOR

[brittle garnet]

you can disagree

[fiery burrow]

Rise is ancient japan inspired

[opaque sigil]

No he doesn’t

[cyan forum]

HE LITERALLY HAS THE SAMURAI HELMET

bro

[cunning geode]

thats its face

[fiery burrow]

and lo and behold we have a samurai monster

[cunning geode]

bonk hammer

[lone crown]

Thats its fucking anatomy

[brittle garnet]

it would be ok if magna was just a samurai monster

[stark estuary]

MH fans when the fantasy creature isn’t a realistic looking dinosaur

[brittle garnet]

it would have been fine

[cyan forum]

yes and the anatomy in question is ass

[oblique musk]

Okay but mr gaben valve hasn't even announced HL3, and we have no idea if there is even a desire at the company to make and release it. By contrast, silksong has ostensibly been in development since 2017.

[copper shore]

do dinosaur chicken nuggets exist

[opaque sigil]

I can’t believe glavenus has a fucking machete on its tail and you’re complaining about magna vaguely resembling a style of armor lmao

[cunning geode]

im referencing tf2

[brittle garnet]

i disagree with grievy, its appearance alone i don't have that much of a problem with

[oblique musk]

That is all chicken nuggets actually

[copper shore]

ok but they are shaped like dinosaurs

[cyan forum]

MH fans when the strictly naturalistic series has a fucking dogshit design

[copper shore]

hence
dinosaur nuggets

[lone crown]

I find it cool if you view it from the “oh samurais were inspired by magnamalo so they dressed up like it”

[stark estuary]

lol

this is an insane cope

[cyan forum]

i'm right

[copper shore]

do you have access to pattern recognition capabilities

[cyan forum]

you lose

[shell yacht]

Monsters having blades on their bodies not strange, a monster looking like it's wearing human armor as body parts is strange. It's not a killer for me but still it's not like it's not there

[opaque sigil]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/5/5c/MHWI-Glavenus_Render_001.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1200?cb=20190711084750

[oblique musk]

Listen a picture of gabe newell could reference any number of games that will never come out, you can't blame me for the mistake.

[cyan forum]

YES AND GLAVENUS LOOKS DUMB

[stark estuary]

“Generations bullshit 🤓 “

[cunning geode]

i dont blame you! is ok

[shell yacht]

Greivy has to go in the wood chipper now

[opaque sigil]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/2/23/MHRise-Nargacuga_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20210308140819

[brittle garnet]

okay i think grievy is like even more out there than me on this topic lol

[shell yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793128374213279776/1301702044586872842/ThatsItGetInTheWoodChipper-1.gif

[lone crown]

I love this design

First time ive seen it

[stark estuary]

Narga is awesome

[copper shore]

post dodogama next

[cyan forum]

generations has insane designs

[oblique musk]

I know nothing about Monster Hunter, but that guy looks like he is morbing all over the place.

[fiery burrow]

The hellfire stuff is inspired by Onibi, not really a folklore expert but from what I can gather its a ghost light (Like will-o'-the-wisps) that was rumored to be spawned from dead animals and people

So its still very in line with the japanese theming

[opaque sigil]

It is and it also doesn’t look all that naturalistic because monhun really isn’t very strict in that regard

[shell yacht]

Not a vampire, the vampire dragon is actually more castlevania-esque

[cyan forum]

bro what.

[lone crown]

Ooh can i see this vampire dragon

[cyan forum]

guess what they did for the narga redesign in world

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-rise-mh-rise-sunbreak-monster-hunter-rise-sunbreak-gif-23243998

[lone crown]

Damn…

[copper shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956311405525598208/1326801241527029811/Blerjaph.gif

[stark estuary]

It has a cool attack let me show you

[cyan forum]

make it more naturalistic

[shell yacht]

Why can't I remember the name of this dragon

[oblique musk]

Second coolest shot of a dragon I've seen ever

[shell yacht]

My brain hurts

[copper shore]

design philorsophy

[lone crown]

Does monster hunter have an attack similar to this:

[opaque sigil]

Malzeno is such a good fight it using a blight that actually incentivizes you to stay in the fray is amazing

[cunning geode]

pic like this of goss harag that says "costa rica"

[fiery burrow]

Monster Hunter has a focus on making stuff BELIEVABLE so that it doesn't break immersion it doesn't really care about REALISM because literally nothing in Monster Hunter is like in real life

[shell yacht]

Oh Malzeno! It's a crazy ass fight

[stark estuary]

I love Malzeno

[shell yacht]

Yeah everything is believable except for Magnamalo hopping on a fart

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/darkeater-midir-midir-ds3-dark-souls-gaming-gif-22525903

[stark estuary]

Frenzy Virus did this first 🥱

[oblique musk]

Just wait until they find out giant monsters don't exist in the real world, and decry the whole game for unrealism.

[opaque sigil]

A bunch of them

[fiery burrow]

Propelling gas to gain height is believable bro

[lone crown]

Peak…

[cyan forum]

dude

it has it's own set realism

[oblique musk]

What is up with the contrast on that image the fight did NOT look like that for me

[opaque sigil]

It is powdered is just being powdered

[cyan forum]

and i think it should follow that

[lone crown]

Its the gif

[cyan forum]

the universe has it's own logic, and i don't think it should break that

[fiery burrow]

Which it breaks all the time

[lone crown]

Contrast is not like that normally no

[shell yacht]

It's not propelling gas though, that's more like valstrax, it's shaking off dust like teostra does and detonating it. Oh right you missed the part where I just said he's copying link from breath of the wild

[cyan forum]

yes with shit like rise and generations

[fiery burrow]

Elder Dragons are basically magic

[opaque sigil]

It is propelling gas that’s exactly what the hellfire is

[oblique musk]

Oh okay fair enough. Anyway that's gotta be my second favorite dragon fight ever in any game

[stark estuary]

Shut the fuck up look at this cool dragon

[fiery burrow]

A monster with a carapace like tempered steel armor. The vapor around it is actually the *expelling of trapped gases * from the hordes of monsters Magnamalo has consumed.

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/valstrax-boost-gif-10082327624460986989

[cyan forum]

elder dragons are supposed to be the sole exception. the reason why fatalis works is because it's just a normal traditional dragon, and that is out of place in this naturalistic world

[lone crown]

I love valstrax

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/shagaru-magala-monster-hunter-gif-26272411

[fiery burrow]

Okay then what about rajang and co

[opaque sigil]

Shagoatru

[cyan forum]

well first off, rajang has actual ecology

[fiery burrow]

So does Magnamalo you just don't like it

[shell yacht]

What even so it's not a fart it's a burp?

[opaque sigil]

Just say “eh it’s not for me”

[fiery burrow]

If you read the Hunters Notes and watched the cutscenes you'd know this

[stark estuary]

Oh come on it literally goes Super Saiyan and shoots lasers out of its mouth you can’t sit here and act like the ecology makes it at all realistic

[cyan forum]

YES. I DON'T. I THINK HIS ECOLOGY IS ASS.

[brittle garnet]

for me magnamalo breaks the immersion, it can be subjective but it's really it

[opaque sigil]

Like fr just admit it’s personal taste and not like an objective issue with it

[brittle garnet]

there is no such thing as objectivity

[stark estuary]

Immersion? Are you being fr

[cyan forum]

it's realistic within the universe's set logic

[carmine island]

@rustic ore flamingo bitch v luffy is just luffy hits him and then they spend 5 minutes closing the gap

[cunning geode]

idk guys i think if some of you knew more about evolution every monster would break your immersion 👹

[brittle garnet]

earlier when it was about how MH designs are meant to be believable

[lone crown]

Only my opinions are objective

[copper shore]

why are you trying so hard to get him to contradict himself

[opaque sigil]

So is magnamalo it’s not that far removed from a deviljho

[brittle garnet]

it is removed though

far enough

[stark estuary]

Rajang is flashier

[oblique musk]

5 minutes? That's unusually fast-paced.

[fiery burrow]

So is Magnamalo

[stark estuary]

There are any number of monsters that are equally as if not more flashy than Magna

[cyan forum]

how does magnamalo hunt

[fiery burrow]

You've yet to explain why it actually contradicts that logic

[opaque sigil]

BRUH you’re joking

[fiery burrow]

Rampages

[lone crown]

How does hornet breathe

Like

[fiery burrow]

.

[lone crown]

Where is her respiration system

[oblique musk]

Same way she eats: through her eye holes.

[fiery burrow]

Void doesn't need to breathe

[opaque sigil]

You’re forgetting that if he decides he doesn’t like the ecology it actually doesn’t exist

[lone crown]

This might have implications for the lore

[cyan forum]

rampages are freak events due to elder dragons. a species doesn't evolve and adapt around this

[cunning geode]

people have genuinely asked how hornet eats "without a mouth"

[oblique musk]

Again, eye holes.

[stark estuary]

Magna doesn’t exclusively hunt during rampages

[opaque sigil]

It doesn’t evolve around rampages those are just convenient feeding frenzies

[violet path]

That doesnt seem fair

[stark estuary]

It appears during them because they’re a good source of food

[cyan forum]

magnamalo's ecology, according to the cutscene, is it's prey literally being suicidal.

[stark estuary]

And Magna needs a lot of food

[opaque sigil]

It’s otherwise an incredibly aggressive predator very similar to deviljho

[stark estuary]

Which you would know

If you had read its ecology

[lone crown]

Im pretty sure hollow knight characters do have mouths but the artstyle is such a way that holding it up to their face equals consuming

Quirrel eats the soup with Boon and we dont see HIS mouth

[fiery burrow]

Monhun doesn't care about plausible evolution be so fr

[finite flax]

soulja boy

[opaque sigil]

Lmao you’re trolling

[fiery burrow]

Thats because it limits creative designs and such

[cyan forum]

that's what the ecology cutscene states

[opaque sigil]

For sure nobody is this maliciously obtuse

[copper shore]

it produces suicide brain waves of course see problem solved

[opaque sigil]

The rise ecology cutscenes are FOLKLORE

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nawh-no-way-fr-gif-22615915

[fiery burrow]

Yeah so um how did Xeno'jiiva evolve? Bad design immersion breaking

[opaque sigil]

Media literacy 0

[rustic ore]

such is Dressrosa pacing

[cyan forum]

ahh, so the cutscene doesn't explain how it hunts

i wonder what else there is to read up on that then....

hmm....

[fiery burrow]

It hunts by eating stuff bro

[opaque sigil]

It hunts with hellfire and being strong

[stark estuary]

Since when did cutscenes explain everything about a Monster’s ecology

[fiery burrow]

It kills something and munches on it

[copper shore]

you are trying SO hard to make him contradict himself and you think that makes you "win" this dispute
embarrassing

[fiery burrow]

who the heck are you

[opaque sigil]

How the fuck is it a mystery what magnamalo’s hunting strategy is it’s an insanely aggressive monster that just jumps and murders shit

[cyan forum]

mfw "ecology cutscene"

[oblique musk]

Acting like the pacing of the One Piece anime hasn't been slow as fuck since AT LEAST Alabasta.

[stark estuary]

Those just show the monster doing something they don’t explain every aspect of their ecology that’s not the point

[lone crown]

Wait this is an interesting monster concept, a monster so visually striking and terrifying (either literally or through applying effects on creatures to have them hallucinate) and just having it stalk other creatures is enough to make them succumb to the (what they feel to be) inevitable

[fiery burrow]

Magnamalo can give you a demonstration of its hunting strategy in real time just walk up to it and hit it

[cyan forum]

because that's barely ecology. animals dont work like this

[opaque sigil]

He’s being maliciously stupid atp

[rustic ore]

Magnamalo hunts at first by ambush, luring prey with its hellfire by using it like a willowisp.

Then it pounces when it gets in range.

It may also just square tf up, because Magnamalo is brollic enough to square up with whatever it pleases.

[fiery burrow]

No animal works like monhun

[opaque sigil]

Yes they do

Animals just attacking other animals is not that abnormal

[rustic ore]

Dressrosa is especially egregious.

[copper shore]

your criticisms are rendered null because I don't care !

[stark estuary]

Last week I saw a wolf using hellfire to leap into the air and take down a bird, scared the shit out of me tbh

[cyan forum]

ok then why doesn't tigers just evolve to be bigger stronger faster and just kill everything on sight because muh huntingh

[oblique musk]

I wouldn't know. I made it to roughly mid-Skypiea and pivoted to the manga because I couldn't sit through the episodes.

[opaque sigil]

Because the real world isn’t a video game

[lone crown]

Baiter! Baiter! More bait please!

[rustic ore]

Erm Magnamalo is a tiger

[fiery burrow]

Do you think Odogaron or Diablos or Rathalos are at all realistic

[opaque sigil]

This has escalated to obvious malicious stupidity either this is a troll or just complete madness

[stark estuary]

Literally every Magna turf war:

[cyan forum]

BUT MONSTER HUNTER ECOLOGY IS HEAVILY BASED OFF THE REAL WORLD

AHHHHHH

[fiery burrow]

Its a game about hunting monsters not poaching animals

[cyan forum]

I'M GOING INSANE

[shell yacht]

Yes

[carmine island]

i dont mind it but its still pretty funny lol

[fiery burrow]

Clearly not can you explain how a Rathalos is realistic and can plausibly evolve irl

[opaque sigil]

Magna isn’t even unique a lot of mh monsters just attack other things

[copper shore]

monster hunter is set in a world with it's own logic and physics and the developers themselves want their monsters to be ecologically believable

[stark estuary]

Even Powdered can’t defend you anymore you done fucked up big time

[opaque sigil]

Again deviljho is basically the same as a magnamalo

[oblique musk]

Because evolution can't directly give animals specific traits that would be beneficial, it just makes it so that if these traits randomly develop, they will stick around. Charles Darwin would hate you.

[wheat sail]

dinosaurs never existed

dum bass

[opaque sigil]

Monhun has monsters that are just big and strong and attack prey when they see it

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-book-fire-fire-book-his-writing-is-fire-as-a-child-i-yearned-for-the-mines-gif-7492916682126134420

[stark estuary]

Dragons did though

[opaque sigil]

Anjanath deviljho tigrex etc

[finite flax]

i tink this is the dumbest ive ever sen grievy

[steady sage]

is chat being extra silly today? :3
because from what i see, someone is confuzzling the real world with vidayo gayms :3

[wheat sail]

thats medieval dinosaurs so probably not real

[stark estuary]

No I saw one

[oblique musk]

Two children dead already.

[steady sage]

? :3

[finite flax]

RULES OF NATURE

AND THEY RUN WHEN thE SUN COMES UP

[cyan forum]

i'm about fucking write an essay on these mfs

[finite flax]

WITH THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE

[finite flax]

i support you

[lone crown]

Does monster hunter have any peacocks…

[cyan forum]

thank you ❤️

[stark estuary]

They’re not ecologically believable there’s shit like sword dragons carpet bombing wyverns lightning unicorns super saiyan gorillas and giant fucking snakes that summon meteors

[shell yacht]

Two of these are also thought to be monster hunters prehistoric creatures and thought to have not evolved out of stubbornness because they can still get by despite not being streamlined

[opaque sigil]

pukei pukei?

[fiery burrow]

What ever happened to concisity

[rustic ore]

That’s not as heavy as a pepega as you think tbh. A majority of how MH monsters interact is based on how the creature they’re based on would act.

Like Nargacuga is an ambush hunter that stalks smaller game, Diablos is a giant herbivore that fights fucking EVERYTHING because big herbivores tend to be psychotic as self-defense, Odogaron is a hyper-aggressive carnivore-scavenger that bites off more than it can chew more often than not like a honey badger, etc.

[oblique musk]

Every time you colon three, a child dies. A mod (I want to say powdered) said this days ago.

[lone crown]

Oh wow it truly has it all

[shell yacht]

Querepeco is closer I think

[rustic ore]

Uhhhhh SORTA Aknosom?

[steady sage]

really? :3
let's test that :3
:3 :3 :3 :3 :3

[stark estuary]

Pukei Pukei is cute

[steady sage]

7 is a lucky number for me :3

[shell yacht]

I know I probably spelled that wrong by the way I can never spell it right

[oblique musk]

Five in a row? Real Man Behind the Slaughter behavior.

[opaque sigil]

you can't whine about it being breaking the rules of the universe for a monster's hunting style to just be "I'm big strong now I attack that thing and eat it" when SO MANY MONSTERS DO THAT

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-lion-honey-badger-shoo-get-away-gif-13197598

[stark estuary]

Definitely yes

[finite flax]

where is my son?

[copper shore]

elder dragons are in universe exceptions to the rules
do you know anything about the game you play

[lone crown]

Ah okay

[copper shore]

or do you just kill the creature

[steady sage]

you had a son? :3

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-qurupeco-crimson-qurupeco-deviljho-call-your-mom-gif-23503829

[fiery burrow]

That means there are exceptions

[steady sage]

i ain't ourple :3

[fiery burrow]

and that a creature isn't bad for being an exception

[copper shore]

which means we can make a million exceptions and it doesn't matter anymore !

[fiery burrow]

ignoring the fact that Magnamalo isn't an exception in the first place

[copper shore]

who even cares right

[oblique musk]

Your pfp is of a yellow rabbit.

[stark estuary]

Only two of those are elder dragons

[fiery burrow]

Also many of the listed monsters aren't elders

[copper shore]

yes it is

[opaque sigil]

magnamalo's ecology is basically identical to deviljho it isn't breaking the rules of the world it's not even fucking new

[steady sage]

hey >:3
it's a baby goat :3

[fiery burrow]

Prove it

[smoky nebula]

Where are your horns, little one

[copper shore]

it can jump mid air

[cunning geode]

lets talk about a less divisive game
like doom etern-

[stark estuary]

Sure you want more non elder dragon examples how about the boxer with explosive fists the dinosaur with a flaming sword for a tail or the supercharged wolf

[shell yacht]

Midnimalo isn't an elder it doesn't get the special classification to be ignored by the rules, like elders just generically having their horns control whatever element they want

[finite flax]

baby gats dont fucking have horns genius

[opaque sigil]

magna isn't breaking rules

[lament lotus]

big shoe lmfo

[cyan forum]

sword dragon = nargacuga. this is like calling a tiger a knife lion because it has big canines.
carpet bombing wyverns = bazelgeuse has an deeply interesting ecology which gives way for these ablities and i highly recommend you read in to it.
lightning unicorn = kirin. elder dragon.
super sayin gorilla = rajang. rajang isn't that bad be fr.
giant snake = dalamadur. elder dragon.

[fiery burrow]

Yes via expelling gasses

[smoky nebula]

Depends on where on the baby to adult spectrum they are

[fiery burrow]

What rule does this break

[rustic ore]

By backblasting the gas it emits (which is generated from digesting its food). Magnamalo farts so hard he flies.

[finite flax]

oooh kinfe lion

[wheat sail]

alright.....

[fiery burrow]

Its not like its double jumping via unexplained magic or anything

[cunning geode]

rajang fires a laser from its mouth right

[finite flax]

WE GON BE ALRIGHT

[lone crown]

What MH creature looks the most edible

[stark estuary]

Sword dragon was Seregios actually
Also you be fr are you acting like Rajang is less flashy than Magna come on

[lone crown]

Most delicious

[brittle garnet]

keep in mind that the ecology youtube videos are not canon theyre speculation

[lone crown]

We need a tier list on that

[opaque sigil]

I think people just don't know anything about magnamalo and assume it's magic because they didn't actually read the fucking entry 💀

[steady sage]

baby gats? :3
you mean baby gatos? :3

[rustic ore]

No, baby guns.

[copper shore]

and those are stupid monsters lol

[cyan forum]

it literally is. it just looks like a normal monkey. and then some of it's fur glows due to elemental charge. bro....

[steady sage]

son of a gun? :3

[shell yacht]

Two of those are varying flammable saliva and one is a symbiotic relationship with fucking thunder bees

[wheat sail]

guns? gun reference

[rustic ore]

AKA Miniguns. AKA gats

[steady sage]

ENTER THE GUUUUUNGEON :3

[stark estuary]

“They’re stupid because I don’t like them”

[oblique musk]

"How about that prick's face when he saw the gat?"

[stark estuary]

When there are a dozen exceptions you never had a rule to begin with

[wheat sail]

gyatts?

[finite flax]

Hungrybox just won his first major in three fucking years

[stark estuary]

A normal monkey? It goes super saiyan and shoots fucking lasers out of its mouth

[cyan forum]

it's stupid because it goes beyond monster hunter's desired naturalistic aesthetic

[opaque sigil]

cope harder

[oblique musk]

Right, completely normal monkey behavior.

[copper shore]

it DOESN'T fit holy shit
like you know monster hunter has a design philosophy literally you can look up developer interviews with them talking about it

[wheat sail]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-enter-the-gungeon-pet-gif-21219481

[cyan forum]

you're making it really really easy to like you btw

[lone crown]

Rajang looks awesome

[opaque sigil]

I don't caaaaaaaare if you like me

[shell yacht]

Well when the monkey eats the lightning unicorn... Which is one of the rule breaking monsters

[rustic ore]

…Gold-plated praying mantis that built a mech from scraps.

[oblique musk]

Hey man, let he who is without toxicity throw the first shade.

[stark estuary]

“Generations bullshit 🤓 “

[finite flax]

whatever happened to everybody being best friends.

[cyan forum]

rajang is literally, visually, just a monkey with horns

[stark estuary]

Every exception to this “design philosophy” they’ll claim is bullshit somehow deserves special treatment or is just bad

[lone crown]

And it still goes hard

[shell yacht]

Who said generations bullshit, because we had a dragon controlling tornadoes made out of metal in the second game

[steady sage]

no image perms? :3

[cyan forum]

ahtal ka is also dumb

[oblique musk]

No monkey has hind legs like that.

[stark estuary]

Show the part where it goes super saiyan and starts firing lasers

[steady sage]

there we go, it's fixed now :3

[copper shore]

the monster absorbs space energy see abilities explained
or maybe it gets it from another dimension

[rustic ore]

Don’t get it twisted. I’m saying this argument is ridiculous because it is all explained within the confines of the MH universe.

[opaque sigil]

maybe you should find a different series that adheres to more naturalistic design philosophies sounds like monhun isn't really for you

[cunning geode]

i gotta be honest evolution in real life is such a weird and complicated and long, LONG process that you cant really translate that level of detail to a game world its just THAT complex. the monsters in MH almost always keep within their usual limits of their own universe's realism, like it would be out of place for a monster to start casting spells in a way that looks like it was a person, or if a monster was a robot (not that one mantis), or if a monster was like a demon. Remember the crossover monsters in World? from final fantasy and the witcher? THOSE are the really out of place ones

[lucid holly]

Gyatt

[shell yacht]

Like literally take the heaviest thing you can think of, make a dragon out of it, and give that monster control over wind

[stark estuary]

I’m aware and agree with that

[next pier]

i like in devil may cry 5 where there are spellcasting goats

[stark estuary]

I was mocking their earlier retorts to similar points being made

[oblique musk]

I would suggest something by David Attenborough.

[opaque sigil]

It sounds like people are just in denial about the actual level of realism monhun aims for because it's not really that high

[lone crown]

Awesome concept, can push everything else except itself

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232587540719206400/1284003054986858596/archvile.gif

[copper shore]

the monster gets it powers from cthulhu

[stark estuary]

Who is this guy

[opaque sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-mhw-wilds-rey-dau-lightning-gif-15853882307096777985

[shell yacht]

Except it can also fly

[lucid holly]

Chat I think “this must be the place” by the talking heads may be the best song of all time

[fiery burrow]

A quick google search can reveal that the design philosophy behind Magnamalo was to make him inspired by Samurai and japanese folklore which is in-line with Monster Hunter Rise's japanese aesthetic.

Not only that, but they also made a believable explanation for this within the rules of the games world. Magnamalo's hellfire is actually trapped monster gas with hellfireblight mixed in. This isn't any more outlandish than a Zinogre or Rajang or whatever, and its behaviour is in-line with a Deviljho like Tammo pointed out

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/ZzGPo-HY20Y

[next pier]

and they cast spells by chanting and shit
they can keep their shield up with chanting and become immune to projectiles
but they cant cast spells and maintain their shield at the same time

[copper shore]

it uses cthulhu energy to propel itself through the air

[finite flax]

IFUCKU KJHG HATE HTUS GANE

[steady sage]

oh hey, it's that one demon that gets spammed in the ending sequence in the final level of Legacy of Rust :3

[lucid holly]

[copper shore]

literally why does this matter

[rustic ore]

You’re right and you should keep talking I think

[lone crown]

Its body produces nuclear-level farts which propel it in the sky like Valstrax

[next pier]

but there are these guys who evolved to have multiple mouths so he could chant multiple things at the same time

[opaque sigil]

but star because it's inspired by artificially made things that means it's bad or something

[fiery burrow]

Reading is hard

[finite flax]

mi gwan tek mi own laif

[oblique musk]

So, do you have, like, a macro that adds colon three to the end of every message you type, or do you just do it manually every time?

[cunning geode]

oh thats nothing...

[steady sage]

manually :3

[cunning geode]

here's sunder map15

[shell yacht]

I can't wait to see this guy absolutely fucking snipe a kushala

[next pier]

im still in map3

[copper shore]

it doesn't break the rules though does it

[stark estuary]

Because in my time I’ve seen many a bad take in this channel though few as obtuse as you and I wondered whether or not I had ever seen you before

[opaque sigil]

rey dau has shit aim it'll miss a kushala

[next pier]

oh also wombat how hard would you say eviternity is
i've started it and am only on map4 but i would like to know when shit hits the fan so i can at least be mentally prepared

[wheat sail]

they be singing thick of it amirite ladies

[fiery burrow]

It does you're just arguing in bad faith

[next pier]

thats true yes

[steady sage]

i always have a funny thought that Legacy of Rust was basically a response to Art Data Interactive's advertising of Doom on the 3DO :3

[copper shore]

how does it

[stark estuary]

Cthulhu isn’t an entity that exists in the MH universe

[next pier]

yes it is

[copper shore]

how do you know

[fiery burrow]

lmao?

[cunning geode]

that one is pretty approachable. i think shit truly hits the fan in chapter 4 starting at map16
(also good luck with map05 👹)

eviternity 2 is harder

[stark estuary]

Don’t feed the trolls guys

[fiery burrow]

bro completely lost the plot

[cunning geode]

well im a troll and im HUNGRY

[next pier]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-trying-to-not-laugh-speed-holding-laugh-speed-laughing-speed-laugh-gif-242565803459391828

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397062813949886466/1334235358321311846/begintrolling.gif

[steady sage]

what Doom wads do you recommend for an absolute n00b like me? :3

[rustic ore]

All the monsters in mainline MH, from the simplest to the most ridiculous, can be explained within the confines of that universe. Every single one.

Simple as.

[next pier]

sunlust

[fiery burrow]

from "Magnamalo is bad" to "Lovecraft's mythos is canon to Monster Hunter"

[copper shore]

like if you can come up with a half assed explanation like "it expels gas" then you may as well just say anything

[stark estuary]

This is literally every MH monster ever

[rustic ore]

My brother in christ what do you think jet propulsion is

[stark estuary]

How does Rathalos produce fire

[rustic ore]

What do you think fuels fire

[finite flax]

the sun is going to eat you

[fiery burrow]

Magnamalo isn't the only one to expel gas

bro hasn't played the game

[steady sage]

sounds like what Zale would say :3

[next pier]

i also

[rustic ore]

I’m pretty sure there’s a concept diagram capcom had that showed Rathalos flame glands

Hang on lemme check that

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/congalala-monster-hunter-fart-epic-fart-monster-hunter-stories-gif-10426483639402091976

[fiery burrow]

You may as well just say anything atp though

I don't personally like that explanation so its not believable and the monster is bad

[next pier]

i agree

[formal whale]

Tf

[fiery burrow]

Guardian Ape wannabe

[formal whale]

#sk-discussion gotta go

[next pier]

guardian ape if he was good..............

[brittle garnet]

this made me cackle

[cunning geode]

dont listen to boomer. Ancient Aliens is really good and not so challenging. Going Down is really quirky and has some hard levels but theyre very short. TNT Revilution is a celebration of the oldschool megawad TNT Evilution and is very very good

[rustic ore]

true and real

[next pier]

dont worry i dont think anyone genuinely listens to me

[steady sage]

i would dare :3

[brittle garnet]

except elder dragons who are defined by being unexplained

[fiery burrow]

Guess I won't be playing DMC3. I had my credit card typed in and everything

[cunning geode]

you never know... dont wanna send any young and upcoming doomers to their first and last mission in sunlust

[full ledge]

Bleach my beloved

[rustic ore]

Even then there tends to be solid explanation for their abilities and how they work

[steady sage]

how hard is it? :3

[rustic ore]

Like Valstrax

And Shara Ishvalda

[oblique musk]

nuts.wad

[next pier]

oh also uh
not even remotely fair
do you recommend it for someone who hasnt beaten like plutonia or legacy of rust

[stark estuary]

Teostra powder etc

[brittle garnet]

there tends to be an attempt at explanation but it usually leaves more questions

[cunning geode]

it has a level called Go Fuck Yourself

[stark estuary]

This is true of basically every monster

[steady sage]

Sunlust can't possibly be THAT bad right? :3

[cyan forum]

no?

[fiery burrow]

Also Magnamalo is an honorary elder dragon check this out

[next pier]

from what i know its to the plutonia experiment what the plutonia experiment is to doom 2

[cunning geode]

i would say maybe play through plutonia

[full ledge]

I mean any game can just name a level that

[cunning geode]

yeah but Sunlust MEANS it

[stark estuary]

The True Elders are weak as fuck

[lone crown]

I just came back to chat wtf

[cyan forum]

take rathalos for example. it's ecology determined both it's design and abilities

[stark estuary]

Teo Cham and Kush

[copper shore]

I'm just trying to see if there's a limit
because it doesn't look like you actually care about the ecology you're just angry at someone for criticising something you like (the same person who is also a mega fan of the series)

[stark estuary]

Monster Hunter has a farting monkey yes

[fiery burrow]

I care about the ecology because I like it this isn't a point. You just seem kind of annoying

[copper shore]

like why is magnamalos skin like that why does he look like a samurai

[fiery burrow]

Me when I see two people disagreeing on something (I need to go in and stir the pot)

[next pier]

aight thanks
ill play plutonia after legacy of rust tho im a bit too scared of it

[lone crown]

That gif is identical to:

[river thicket]

no

[opaque sigil]

Magnamalo has a durable shell and spikes so many monsters have that

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-dance-butt-gif-26394064

[stark estuary]

TRUE

[naive geode]

Yes

[cyan forum]

they weren't originally intended to be like that though. remember, fatalis and kushala tried to be the same thing upon conception. and unnatural dragon which was alien and unknown, and didn't fit the rest of the natural world

[fiery burrow]

Why does rathalos look like that

Why does Zinogre look like that

[lone crown]

Rathalos is peak

[opaque sigil]

It looks like a samurai for meta design reasons not for diegetic reasons if you don’t know the difference you must be literally ten years old

[stark estuary]

I’m 11

[opaque sigil]

And you understand the difference my hypothesis is proven

[rustic ore]

Magnamalo is based on a bushido. He, like most of Rise’s original cast, is based on a yokai. This is the same reason he has gas/wisp-based fire abilities.

His wide-set back and layered plating is supposed to imitate a samurai’s armor, and his decorative horns mimic a helmet.

[lone crown]

Confession detected. Mods, get em'

[oblique musk]

I will forever be confused as to why that gorilla decided to do that.

[next pier]

cause why not

[cyan forum]

rathalos looks like that because a truck load of ecology.
zinogre looks like that because the designers thought it would be cool.

[formal whale]

Mods, seal this individual inside of black egg

[fiery burrow]

Give me that ecology

[cyan forum]

ecology maketh the monster.

[stark estuary]

The designers also thought Rathalos looked cool

[rustic ore]

Then they gave even more reasoning on top of “bc it looks cool”

[next pier]

they were right

[lone crown]

iirc it has something to do with getting stared at, they slide towards you but don't want to stare at you so out of respect they turn around IIRC? I could be wrong

[rustic ore]

Zinogre is a walking beehive, for one

[opaque sigil]

Magnamalo is evocative of a samurai for the same reason glavenus tail is evocative of a fucking sword

[rustic ore]

Because it’s obvious???

[stark estuary]

Congalala is evocative of a farting monkey

[cyan forum]

yes but the important thing was that it wasn't the main decider on design and ability

[finite flax]

mods, throw this guy into the Tombs of Atuan

[oblique musk]

Makes sense. Apparently eye contact is a sign of aggression to them.

[fiery burrow]

Do you honestly think they start with ecology first

[cyan forum]

the valued ecology more than they did general appeal

[formal whale]

What

[finite flax]

lol

[opaque sigil]

Genuinely malding over the fact that the eastern inspired game has designs based on regionally appropriate things

[fiery burrow]

Rathalos is a dragon that breathes fire and poison they probably started with that

[stark estuary]

It doesn’t breathe poison its talons are poisonous

[formal whale]

Is tu#h a bad word

[fiery burrow]

Same thing blah blah

[rustic ore]

Espinas breathes poison

[lone crown]

Yeah

[next pier]

fuck kinda word is tu#h

[fiery burrow]

#rules-and-info

[lone crown]

Its not allowed

[oblique musk]

Yeah. Mods will mute on that thang if you say it.

[rustic ore]

Mostly because it’s annoying asf

[stark estuary]

This is important to its ecology because Rathalos hunts from the air Rathian’s tail is poisonous because she hunts on land 🤓 ☝️

[fiery burrow]

They start with abilities then they make up ecology not vice versa

[formal whale]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-book-fire-fire-book-his-writing-is-fire-as-a-child-i-yearned-for-the-mines-gif-7492916682126134420

Ts so fire

[fiery burrow]

Said abilities have inspiration obviously

[cyan forum]

they've literally stated the opposite

[fiery burrow]

Show me

[cyan forum]

i too love shoes

[fiery burrow]

why are there so many shoe emotes

[opaque sigil]

many kinds of shoe

[rustic ore]

Many such cases

[oblique musk]

Okay the magnet one is funny as hell

[rustic ore]

It’s a horseshoe

Yall wanna hear why Shara Ishvalda can do what it does

[lone crown]

you've gotta be squidding me

[rustic ore]

Because there’s a well-defined reason for that

[next pier]

no there isnt

[rustic ore]

And I actually just wanna yap about it

[finite flax]

INshara

[cyan forum]

it's really really not that complicated

[fiery burrow]

Iceborne ewww. No one cares

[copper shore]

most of the time they design monsters with ecology in mind first and foremost so when they go against that it breaks immersion
magnamalo is incongruent with most of monster hunter because it looks like a samurai just because of folklore
like you can't tell me there is any believable reason for him looking like a samurai
that's the problem

[fiery burrow]

why does zinogre look like a wolf

[rustic ore]

Imma explain it anyway

[opaque sigil]

oh my god you really don't understand the difference between diegetic and non-diegetic reasons for designs being a certain way

[finite flax]

anamdanananamdnanana

[opaque sigil]

crazy