sk-discussion

[formal whale]

Silk Knight

Hollow song

[misty reef]

silsksssing

[formal whale]

Skong

Hollow Skong sing

Silk kong

Super Silksong 64

[wheat sail]

My names the fucking hornet oh yeah my names the fucking hornet oh eyah

dadadadada dadadadad

[frozen frigate]

mods can we explode this guy with hammers?

literally so fire

gotta pull up youtube because that song doesnt seem to be on spotify

[cunning geode]

yeah it’s not, sad

[frozen frigate]

but they are they have 1 album called the god shaped void

[wheat sail]

tfw you realize you can just use youtube music instead

[frozen frigate]

would you prefer a spotify or youtube link womabt

[misty reef]

yawns

[cunning geode]

either

[frozen frigate]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0b4TKuvZ4eJ8eHgJgXaCnN?si=c39f5198931c4770

[cunning geode]

i promise to listen when i can

[frozen frigate]

oh yeah oh yeah

[wheat sail]

free spotify dont even let me see songs in my playlist on mobile

taking away fundamental features from me

[frozen frigate]

of course take your time yknow

[cunning geode]

so in like 10 minutes or so

[formal whale]

How do you explode him with hammers

[frozen frigate]

what genre would you say psychotic waltz or morbid more speciifcally is womabt

[cunning geode]

progressive metal

[wheat sail]

nu metal

[cunning geode]

no

[frozen frigate]

death metal

[cunning geode]

no it’s prog metal 👹 👹

[frozen frigate]

this is pretty fire i wont lie

[wheat sail]

classical rock

[frozen frigate]

frog metal

[cunning geode]

actually that one does exist…

[wheat sail]

🐸

[frozen frigate]

kinda sounds a little old to be honest

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-hammer-power-skill-ban-gif-17242510

[formal whale]

I get it now

[wheat sail]

There is a car

and it is going to hit me

[frozen frigate]

martyr? like that one item int

[delicate summit]

was there really no news today?

[frozen frigate]

in the binding of isaac?

[woeful matrix]

hello

[cunning geode]

yeah totally

[frozen frigate]

this video is giving me type o negative vibes

all of the low quality images of flowers

[wheat sail]

yuh nothing

[cunning geode]

it’s pretty cheesy yeah

[frozen frigate]

alright whats hard im ready for the hard one wombat

[formal whale]

Nails

[cunning geode]

oh boy here we go

[formal whale]

Like hollow knight weapon

[cunning geode]

https://youtu.be/6oR1Ey8HNJ4?si=hqqoxxVqYCUdkQ-Z

enjoy

[frozen frigate]

ashenspire huh

this is definitely melodeath

[cunning geode]

uh… sure 👹

[frozen frigate]

the results for "cable street" on youtube were all documentaries about britain fighting fascism

[cunning geode]

yeah

[frozen frigate]

oh yeah this is my jam

[cunning geode]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street

[frozen frigate]

this is rather fascinating

[cunning geode]

yay

[frozen frigate]

this feels like something i could riot to to be honest

[lone crown]

@gray parcel beta survey, check emails

[cunning geode]

it’s called RABM

[lone crown]

Talk about how you wish two player was real

[cunning geode]

Red and Anarchist Black Metal

[frozen frigate]

red huh

[cunning geode]

byeah…

[frozen frigate]

what would that term mean in this context

[frozen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/byeah-yeah-jerma-jerma985-gta-gif-16194072094781404916

theres a saxophone hahahaha

[cunning geode]

like. socialism

[frozen frigate]

not something youd expect to hear in a bm song

[cunning geode]

proletariat stuff

yeah exactly

[frozen frigate]

i ought to do some research about some of this stuff

[cunning geode]

its a movement in direct opposition to the history of nazism ingrained into black metal

including of course NSBM which is National Socialist Black Metal and i shouldn’t have to tell you what that means 👹

[wheat sail]

red metal

[cunning geode]

(it’s nazis)

[frozen frigate]

oh boy

[fiery burrow]

the what

[frozen frigate]

you fw agalloch at all wombat

[cunning geode]

i kinda wrote it out all there what’re you confused about

i’ve heard of agalloch but i dunno about them much

[fiery burrow]

yeah but where can I read about that

[frozen frigate]

atmospheric black metal, ive only listened to one of their albums Ashes Against The Grain but it was really good considering i dont usually listen to much black metal (or metal at all for that matter)

oh yeah At The Door by the storkes

[cunning geode]

https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/rabm/

[cunning geode]

ah i like atmospheric black metal so that’s cool 👹

[violet path]

Whats this?

Oh its a wiki page im dumb

[cunning geode]

a link to the genre page for red and anarchist black metal which has a short summary of the genre and its history as well as the top rated albums on the site

[young saffron]

Gm

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/234486640305897474/1311863078647889992/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[night vigil]

did we get any silksong news yesterday?

[midnight portal]

TEARS DOWN

[uncut elk]

no im pretty sure

[night vigil]

good to know, will probably be back in april

i'm so tired of these shenanigans...

[vivid valve]

We didn't get any news, no. But if you think about it, it's probably because updating us yesterday would have been redundant due to the news we'll definitely receive on the 24th

[violet path]

Yes

[finite flax]

ALL THE SHANDOWS

[cunning geode]

mmm nice chill but good heaviness

thankies

[gray parcel]

Did mine

[cunning geode]

wow that was really quite sweet

[gray parcel]

Bionical mentioned

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-congratulations-good-job-bionicle-gif-13218241

[frozen frigate]

its a demo of the much more popular song by them called You Only Live Once and theyre rather different vibes but both so fire

[gray parcel]

TAKUA

TAKUUUUAAAA

[cunning geode]

what are you doing down here alone???

We're supposed to be at the KOLHII MATCH??

[gray parcel]

Unironically this movie is peak

Except for Lewa

Why did they give him that goofy ass voice

[cunning geode]

erm 👹

yeah its a bit off, the idea is the Le-Matoran all have this dialect from the air chute culture in the metru nui city they came from

but its kinda just a little racist sounding

[barren sequoia]

Just found out katana zero apparently has upcoming dlc

Thats been in the works for 7 years

Sounds familiar

[violet path]

taktua

[gray parcel]

Bro 😭

[lone crown]

GET OUT OF MY HEAD. GET OUT OF MY HEAD. GET OUT OF MY

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/no-comment-quiet-mute-mute-deer-pause-gif-3676484987657574386

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-walker-fnaf-turning-around-turning-doug-turning-around-gif-23411544

[heady iron]

I need to talk to a therapist

[lone crown]

Most of us do probably

[trim estuary]

Ha I already did

You better get on it

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/nostgalgia-critic-gif-20116995

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-fat-face-deer-funny-looking-deer-gif-8834458079555444425

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-deranged-stare-gif-25525909

[frozen frigate]

i love jeram

i used to get so many posts about him on instagram despite barely even knowing who he was

and now he cradles my head gently and sings me to sleep every night ❤️

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232587540719206400/1081066704995614720/videoplayback.gif

[misty reef]

I need silksong to write

what do I obsessive over

obsess

[atomic sparrow]

obssess over that one coral area

[rocky flicker]

Cannot believe that’s a banned word that’s hilarious

[pastel mortar]

silksong tmr

[clear pawn]

still we hope

[warped rock]

write about the loud house tv show

[clever rapids]

Write about your favorite non-Hollow Knight related Metroidvania, like Blasphemous.

[fiery burrow]

Name one good metroidvania

[shell yacht]

Building a stupid wandering trader farm
Twice I've run into the build ceiling and had to restart

[atomic sparrow]

why are the traders wandering

[shell yacht]

Their llamas stink

[stoic sigil]

More goober pics

[sinful flare]

https://samus.link/

damn it doesnt embed

Super Metroid and A Link to the Past Crossover Randomizer

[atomic sparrow]

a scam link !!!

mods !!!

[sinful flare]

ym is a scam link

[opaque sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-of-persia-vahram-the-lost-crown-super-move-ultra-2-gif-4921068852215116129

[frozen frigate]

is this assassins creed odyssey

[opaque sigil]

no

[fiery burrow]

I have it...

[frozen frigate]

erm, im pretty sure it is,

[magic ruin]

Silksong isn't real

[opaque sigil]

I should replay tlc tbh it's been a couple months

[atomic sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-gif-18129290986713688197

[rustic ore]

WHGEEERE AM I GETINBG PINGED FPROM

IM GOING TO LOSE MY FUCKIG MIND

[clever rapids]

It might be Furi.

[zinc ginkgo]

apparently my friend drew this for my game

[heavy magnet]

lurvly

[leaden delta]

bocchi the rock!

[edgy valve]

wasup skongers

[violet path]

oh thats mid

[clever rapids]

The last one I played was Blasphemous 2, which was good but not as good as the first one in my opinion. Cookie Cutter was before that - weird but much easier once you can parry.

[frozen frigate]

isnt blasphemous a roguelite

or am i mistaking it with dead cells

[clever rapids]

You are, yeah.

[frozen frigate]

aw man

peak cells

[heavy magnet]

i felt the same about B2

first one was rougher, but in an interesting way

[clever rapids]

The gameplay was fine, but it was a complete tonal shift and no longer the dark, gritty world that brought me to the first one.

There's a board game coming out for it too.

[heavy magnet]

storywise the first one felt like it was developed over many years
the second one felt like it was written quickly to capitalize on the success of the first one

[uncut elk]

what do we think of this guy

[frigid dew]

Goofyahh

[heavy magnet]

bug emerging from a pot

[clever rapids]

I also played the first one after all the free updates, but I agree with you. The second one might play better after all the DLCs are out and it's "finished" per say.

[lucid holly]

Thoughts on Silksong guys

[trim estuary]

pretty good

[clever rapids]

September 19th.

[zinc ginkgo]

elder who?

[heavy magnet]

i get it

[atomic sparrow]

kinda looks like that steel assasin sharpe companion that we still haven't seen which predates silksong reveal even

[uncut elk]

i think hornet might show up

[misty reef]

No someone already did that

[heavy magnet]

hey, yeah

maybe he upgrades to steel mode

[frigid dew]

Hm

[uncut elk]

can one of the endings in silksong be sharpe just killing you then throwing a party

[frigid dew]

💀

[heavy magnet]

wonder if the steel bugs will all be characters, or if they are a faction with regular enemies too

[uncut elk]

hornet's death celebration party

how many areas do you guess we havent seen or heard of

[heavy magnet]

37

not really, I expect it'll probably have a similar amount as HK, just bigger

[frigid dew]

Yah probably

[misty reef]

They look so cool

[heavy magnet]

other metroids I vania'd last year - Last Faith, Voidwrought, Biogun, and Gestalt
Last Faith was great, Voidwrought and Biogun were good, worth a playthrough, and Gestalt was decently made but obviously unfinished, like 3/4 of the way done

chasing that MV fix

[misty reef]

I have only played two metroidvanias

[cunning geode]

thats great because there are only two

metroid and castlevania

[woeful matrix]

is that like

a

[fiery burrow]

Has there ever been a crossover between metroid and castlevania

[woeful matrix]

uh

[fiery burrow]

That'd make the big bucks

[heavy magnet]

smash bros, right

[misty reef]

It would

[heavy magnet]

don't they got a castlevania in there

[fiery burrow]

smash doesn't count

[heavy magnet]

well

shut it all down i guess

[stoic sigil]

Silk

[lilac gyro]

Hi chat

Any silking in the chat

[stoic sigil]

No

[marsh ibex]

has there been a crossover
this crossover doesn’t count

this is why you’re mid

[whole grove]

Honestly I think that TC has some kind of NDA with Nintendo to not disclose silksong news until the direct or smthn

Or maybe I’m just coping

[marsh ibex]

nintendo has no reason to do this and tc has no reason to agree

[stoic sigil]

There will be no Silksong at the direct

[marsh ibex]

nda is not an all purpose term for everything silksong related

[lone crown]

Why would TC do anything with nintendo

[stoic sigil]

Joker please crush their hopes and dreams thank you

[fiery burrow]

Its smash bros

It really speaks for itself

[opaque sigil]

it's literally impossible to have an nda about that

[whole grove]

M o n e y

Idk I’m tired af it’s 3 in the morning I am just talking absolute nonsense

[stoic sigil]

Clearly

[lone crown]

At least you’re self-aware

[stoic sigil]

[fiery burrow]

they could be lying about the cake thing

[heavy magnet]

when has that ever happened

come on

[misty reef]

Idk

[stoic sigil]

Erm. Joker please make them sad

[fiery burrow]

NO PLEASE

[marsh ibex]

Uhhh

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-black-guy-gif-17915341

[marsh ibex]

Star

You are the most amazing rain world fan I’ve ever met

[harsh yarrow]

I wouldn't be surprised if one was in play if they were given a dev unit, but that is a big assumption

[fiery burrow]

They call me iloverainworld for a reason

[lilac gyro]

Bro

[marsh ibex]

your devotion to all of the gameplay quirks and difficulty is awe inspiring

[lilac gyro]

I wish phoebe was here

She made the chart

[sinful flare]

When are you beating spearmaster ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[cunning geode]

me with doom...

[stoic sigil]

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CRUSH THEIR SPIRITS JOKER

[ripe cliff]

TRUE

[marsh ibex]

But even your love of rain world pales in comparison to your love of terraria

[harsh yarrow]

But that wouldn't stop TC from taking about Silksong, just Silksong in relation to the Switch 2

[fiery burrow]

its probably not even that good be honest

[harsh yarrow]

Or the Switch 2 in general

[marsh ibex]

I know you truly believe it’s the greatest game of all time

and while I disagree

[sinful flare]

When are you beatin tgsmeprarkmesşfljsarkjfeaoıfşkdjskszjfoeızjfksojerr. .. .............

[marsh ibex]

Your fervent love for all things terraria is a beacon for all those who witness it

Guiding them through the darkness of worse media

Such as Nausicaa and Infinite Granite

[sinful flare]

your mom

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[fiery burrow]

Rain World fans when ||Iterator #50142418 has beef with iterator #1231415|| (Peak cinema)

[opaque sigil]

WHAT nausicaa is fantastic

[fiery burrow]

So is infinite granite

[sinful flare]

INFINITE CINEM A

[misty reef]

Real

[fiery burrow]

mmm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF70xjmMJ9I

[harsh yarrow]

Some more random thoughts for my brain

/potential Silksong mod

Do it in two parts

[lilac gyro]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1100843639489437776/Untitled57_20230426105929.png?ex=67b22788&is=67b0d608&hm=2a57d90d62c5a1cb35807065c15eb9b8109638923b06df06e6fb0e28c822e67b&

This

[ripe cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-theyre-groovin-rain-deer-rain-world-meme-the-funny-gif-23153265

[lilac gyro]

Not full but close enough

[cunning geode]

havent seen this in a long while

[harsh yarrow]

First part is the same story as the base game, with the same endings

Part two is Hornets return to Hallownest

[lilac gyro]

Yeah

My gal phoebe hasn’t talked here in a while

[atomic sparrow]

y;know what else we haven't seen in a while ?

tools discussion

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/arbiter-were-it-so-easy-halo-difficult-gif-16171194

[atomic sparrow]

and that everything leads to tools discussion image

let's talk about tools

[harsh yarrow]

c4 is a pimplo but when it explodes it makes a cloud of purple stink

[trim estuary]

Holy moly Aluo is far right

[harsh yarrow]

This one

B5, while I want it to be weaversong again

I assume it's more likely some form of shamans stone equivalent

A tool used by Weavers to simplify casting spells, or to hold more silk, something like that

[atomic sparrow]

weaver song two

💔

[fiery burrow]

Should Hornet unlock Diving Wyvern?

[harsh yarrow]

Nah

[misty reef]

I love the Weaverlings

[harsh yarrow]

Tyrants fist

[sinful flare]

Wyvern? Like from Terraria I Love Terraria

[harsh yarrow]

We have the coglings or something

I forgot their name

The red flying things

[fiery burrow]

Cogflys

[misty reef]

Cries

[harsh yarrow]

I was close

[misty reef]

I don't want cogflies I want baby weavers

[fiery burrow]

You mean the infected ones TK murders?

[misty reef]

Uhhh

No

The ones from the weaversong chwrm

[harsh yarrow]

A4 and B4 are probably the same charm

[fiery burrow]

mid..

[misty reef]

Wha

[harsh yarrow]

But got a respite between reveal and 2022

[young saffron]

So hungry

Need food

[ripe cliff]

make a sandwich

just not like, a toast sandwich

[misty reef]

Eat a vessel

I got some

Free shipping

[heavy magnet]

crunchy on the outside

with a gooey center

tastes like regret

[coarse leaf]

personally i think they'd taste like licorice

[lone crown]

They’re direct upgrades

From basic straightpin to tri-pins

Same for A2 and B2

[harsh yarrow]

Nah

The design is too similar

[lone crown]

They’re the same tool except B1 is the upgraded version

[harsh yarrow]

Clearly showing a progression in style from quicker placeholder to a more finalized design fit for release

If both showed up in the same trailer sure

[lone crown]

Um, no. There was already a “quicker placeholder” i didnt include in the image since it was outdated

[harsh yarrow]

Are both from the 2022 reveal?

Trailer*

Sorry

[lone crown]

Bear with me a bit and wait here

[quiet knot]

Sup gamers

[lone crown]

Here, two screenshots of both tools from an identical news source (The EDGE magazine)

[harsh yarrow]

Those are the straigt pins

[atomic sparrow]

🐻

ok

[harsh yarrow]

we already know theres the standard and the upgrade

[lone crown]

Are we talking about the same tools im confused

Did you mean A2 and B2

If so im a dumbass

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[lone crown]

Let me check for those

[harsh yarrow]

a4 and b4 lol

[lone crown]

FOUR?

[harsh yarrow]

yeah

[lone crown]

OHH

Yeah then you’re right

[harsh yarrow]

They got resprited

[lone crown]

Those are likely the same tool but resprited yes

[harsh yarrow]

OH

[lone crown]

Sorry for the misconception

[harsh yarrow]

Right above the standard pin

in the tools screen

That seems like an open-shut tool XD

If I had to guess

Blues are passives

red are attacks that cost shellshards

and white seems to be silk abilities/tools?

[lone crown]

White are silk abilities yes

[harsh yarrow]

It makes sense as it seems to contain Hornets needle toss

[lone crown]

Reds are shell shard cost and active as you said

Blues and yellows are uncertain

[harsh yarrow]

Im guesing blues are passive due to the lack of directional indicator

Like look at the straight pins- they have the up arrow

[lone crown]

You’re a genius not gonna lie

Because i just remembered that they assign the same tool button for all tools but with directional inputs as well like the spells

Like two red tools have two different arrows

[harsh yarrow]

do we ever see hornet with an orange tool equiped?

[atomic sparrow]

do we ever see hornet

[harsh yarrow]

no

I ate her

good source of protein

[atomic sparrow]

do we

[harsh yarrow]

my current guess is that its were things like the lifeblood injection would go

Which, with some further guessing

are tempory buffs/tools that only replenish between benches

like uh...

[subtle flint]

Night at club was nice, sleeping schedule might be a bit cooked though

[harsh yarrow]

Lifeblood Core?

[lone crown]

We have barely ever seen the yellow tools at all

Those bottom three tools remain a mystery

[harsh yarrow]

scratch that theory

hm

That screenshot does make it look like the weaversong looking charm is weaversong

[lone crown]

This is from 2019 for clarity

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

hence the older green orb sprite

[cunning geode]

the yellow tools are purely for flavoring delicious cuisines

[atomic sparrow]

all I got is that tool on the right kinda looks like this guy who's also on the right

[ripe cliff]

looks like crosshairs, maybe more marksman based?

[harsh yarrow]

Nah

[ripe cliff]

not literal guns i mean ranged weapons

[harsh yarrow]

Straight pins are red

[lone crown]

My theory always was that reds are active, blues may grant something mobility-based like backstep/cloak air stall and yellows were passive

[ripe cliff]

I see

[opaque sigil]

I suspect it's based on a compass rose and they're misc/navigation/exploration stuff

blue looks like a weaver head > silk related

[harsh yarrow]

Wayward Compass, basically

Nah, not silk related

[cunning geode]

I ALREADY TOLD YOU
ITS WONDERFUL SPICES AND HERBS

[harsh yarrow]

Hornets Needle Toss is white

[whole grove]

I’m more interested in what the different, more herrah shaped crest is

[opaque sigil]

silk related passives not the white slot

[harsh yarrow]

leads me to think white is the soul costing ones

[limber oak]

Its gonna be weird cuz every tool has the same "notch" cost

[lone crown]

Let tammo cook…

[quiet knot]

Hey gamers

[ripe cliff]

Makes sense. I suppose all combat based tools would be constrained to red then

[harsh yarrow]

But then again- needle toss

[opaque sigil]

all active ones are but yellow ones could have shit like the thorns analogue

[harsh yarrow]

seen here

I bet you that top one is just hornets needle toss from the first game

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gamers-allowed-power-rangers-gif-26617325

[lone crown]

There are plenty of clips of hornet doing her needle toss

[opaque sigil]

it's a grapple not what she did in hk

[quiet knot]

this what dictatorship looks like

[opaque sigil]

putting the hk needle throw in silksong would suck it would be stupidly slow

[lone crown]

Erm? What?

[opaque sigil]

silk spear is just the better implementation

[lone crown]

Hold on tammo wait here

[opaque sigil]

what we've seen her do isn't the out and back throw she does in fights

[lone crown]

Theres an extended xbox clip i want to send

Just wait

[opaque sigil]

there's the big blast but that's way faster and doesn't really have a pullback

[cunning geode]

theyre coming for YOU NEXT, GAMERS

[lone crown]

Or not even. Here

[opaque sigil]

yeah I mentioned that as silk spear/the big blast

[harsh yarrow]

Thats Silkspear

[lone crown]

I thought silkspear was the OTHER thing

[marble glade]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-guilty-gear-bridget-guilty-gear-shiggy-wiggy-gif-26441575

[opaque sigil]

it's basically an instantaneous projectile with no recall time

[lone crown]

Eh it’s the same but faster

I count it

[cunning geode]

me complaining about loch-n-loads

[lone crown]

Conceptually the same but obviously mechanically not

[opaque sigil]

it's ss's interpretation of that ability but it functions incredibly differently

we're not going to see the full throw and recall

or if we do it'll be lame as shit

[whole grove]

Loch n load sucks, just a crutch for people who can’t use the iron bomber

[lone crown]

Well of course, that’d take ten million years with the pacing of the game

I wasnt arguing that it was the exact same attack mechanically but the fact that she has the same throwing forwards thing

My fault for not clarifying

Like imagine if hornet’s new needle arts were at the same pace as HK nail arts

It’d be unbelievably dogwater

[opaque sigil]

would be cringe yeah

but they seem to be way faster

[atomic sparrow]

why are we using the dog's water as an insult
thing is literally keeping the dog alive smh

[opaque sigil]

https://youtu.be/JSfuFlhsxZY?t=34

[harsh yarrow]

The bind ability is cool

very glad they slowed it down

I bet a charm or crest will end up changing it to be more similar to Hollow Knights focus

Maintaining the same speed, but talking less silk for healing one mask

[opaque sigil]

that would be a downgrade

[harsh yarrow]

yeah IDK how to balance it right

[rustic ore]

How old is this

[cunning geode]

it was during the xbox release window time

[atomic sparrow]

👴

[cunning geode]

so like june 2022 to june 2023

[harsh yarrow]

It doesnt need to be an upgrade, just a sidegrade

[harsh dragon]

did they actually slow it down or is it just slower for that one crest? Not sure if it's ever been shown to be slow while using the default crest

[harsh yarrow]

Bind would've been quite broken if they didnt slow it down

[lone crown]

Different crests appear to have different bind times and even different costs for binding

[harsh yarrow]

Barely a risk to do

[lone crown]

Allegedly

[opaque sigil]

which genuinely is just awful

[rustic ore]

Damn I might be too baby then

[lone crown]

There could always be upgrades/passives in play that we dont know of

[atomic sparrow]

the reaper crest is cold 🥶

[lone crown]

So thats why i say allegedly

Cause not confirmed

[opaque sigil]

the point of the combat is to flip between low and high health the inclusion of that crest is a betrayal of the combat loop but it also has the shit pogo so that crest is just lame and only boring people will use it

[rustic ore]

Which crest

[lone crown]

Harp

[opaque sigil]

the harp one

[rustic ore]

I wanna know soI can be contradictory

Okay no wait
Contradiction aside I actually love that one

[lone crown]

I like all of them tbh

[rustic ore]

so even without the shitposting youre wrong I’m afraid

[opaque sigil]

guess you're boring

[rustic ore]

guess so

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/234486640305897474/1338020003538272338/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter14.gif

[lone crown]

My favorite one’s the claw crest

[opaque sigil]

claw reaper and wanderer look peak

harp is bad

[harsh yarrow]

from this it seems to be crest 2

[lone crown]

The reaper one does appear to have some crazy ass range

[lone crown]

Is wanderer crestless?

Or is wanderer the harp

[opaque sigil]

I think wanderer is the base one

[lone crown]

Yeah wanderer’s definitely the base

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/rey-dau-monster-hunter-rey-dau-monster-hunter-wilds-monhunwilds-mhwilds-gif-17919085122880163840

[lone crown]

Because hornet uses tools as base

And therefore would need a base tools menu

[harsh yarrow]

Im excited to see how crests are used in the game

[atomic sparrow]

can mui goku beat base (wanderer crest) hornet ?

[rustic ore]

no

[harsh yarrow]

beyond changing attacks and having different tool slots

[rustic ore]

hornet garamas him negdiff

[opaque sigil]

I've already slain a rey dau I'm not afraid of you smh

[lone crown]

I wonder how many crest movesets we haven’t seen

[rustic ore]

this but arkveld then

[lone crown]

My hopes are very low so im assuming we’ve already seen them all

[opaque sigil]

I suspect that might be the case

[lone crown]

Having as much as we know right now is already insane

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah I wouldnt be supprised if we've seen them all

[opaque sigil]

there's only so much they can do to change the moveset

[lone crown]

Four movesets is ridonculous

[rustic ore]

they can do so much more

[opaque sigil]

well

it's not like the movesets are wholly unique but yes

[lone crown]

Well same attacks in concept but still

[rustic ore]

it’s koolaid time

i need my fix of processed sugar drink

[serene chasm]

Speed runs are gonna be insane

[harsh yarrow]

What I kinda fear is that a crest will become obsolete, even if it has a moveset you perfer

[opaque sigil]

probably

ss def has better movement by a mile

sprint adds so much

[harsh yarrow]

Aye

[lone crown]

Sprint button alone is revolutionary

[rustic ore]

This is when we whip out good old “fuck it we ball” and use it anyway

[harsh yarrow]

Will make it far more of a speed game

[lone crown]

No more cringe dash spamming

[leaden delta]

yeah speedruns might actually be interesting

[harsh yarrow]

Some of the movement in Hollow Knight speedruns is cool

[quiet knot]

The shaw shimmy

[lone crown]

Cant wait for Last Judge Wall-clip tech

[opaque sigil]

it's 80% just sting shards:

[harsh yarrow]

what Im really curious is how it'll be routed, considering that Silksong looks like it'll have alot of side content

and considering some of the quests will likely have good abilities, tools, or upgrades?

[lone crown]

God I hope steel assassins function as pursuers

Random chance encounters

[harsh yarrow]

Or just an easy way to make a bunch of rosary beads?

[opaque sigil]

eh

[lone crown]

It feels random seeing one in that coral zone

[opaque sigil]

ig you can just run past them

[leaden delta]

squeak squad shit

[atomic sparrow]

rng fucking over speedruns !!!

[leaden delta]

thoughts

[lone crown]

Exactly my thoughts

Or flying steel soul jinn pogo tech

[harsh yarrow]

I kinda hope that its not random encounters, prescripted to happen sure

[lone crown]

I’ll take that too

[harsh yarrow]

Like after X point in progression, theres an assassins group in X room

[lone crown]

Just something to make hornet feel unsafe

We already have a mention of tripwire hooks and traps

[harsh yarrow]

Just to add a bit more to backtracking or something

[lone crown]

Less emphasis on magic in Silksong in general

All according to EDGE

[opaque sigil]

aesthetically yeah

[atomic sparrow]

mfw silksong summons a giant fireball and nukes half of pharloom:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/527955912611201046/1008868416058294292/IMG_6497.gif

[harsh yarrow]

lol

[atomic sparrow]

that's pretty magical !

[harsh yarrow]

Pharloom in general just doesnt seem to have a large group of soul users

besides the weavers

[lone crown]

The weird cultist dudes harness some silk as well

At least one of them

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

But they dont seem to use soul/silk in the same way as the weavers or the Knight

Just using secondary properties rather than using it fully

[lone crown]

Yeah

This bum just uses his sampled silk as an extension of his weapon

Unsure how he’s controlling it

[harsh yarrow]

arm

[cunning geode]

pure rizz

i think thats the first time ive said rizz unironically

[opaque sigil]

Could be using a weaver technique and it’s enchanted silk

[lone crown]

Hornet’s silk is said to be a conduit for her soul somewhere in a blogpost or something, like her lifeforce

If this glowing silk is the same thing but for the weavers, that’d be pretty dark

[opaque sigil]

Well it wouldn’t have to be exactly the same

[harsh yarrow]

Could explain why the early game weaver in the weaver den is alive

the silk is still bound to their life

[opaque sigil]

PK was a god with soul powers hornet’s shit is abnormal

[lone crown]

True

[harsh yarrow]

abnormal?

idk

For most spiders sure

But considering she is the daughter of possibly the most powerful soul user?

And Hornet clearly has some training from Weavers considering

Her use of Silk is probably beyond most spiders, at least

[atomic sparrow]

can a normal spider do uh

the gossamer storm

[serene chasm]

yes

All spiders can

[atomic sparrow]

ok my plan to take over pharloom

phase 1 gather all weavers

[lone crown]

Pale Lurker is a random fucker and they got close

[atomic sparrow]

phase 2 gossamer storm all over the place

phase 3 take over

EASY

[serene chasm]

I wonder what the attacks will be named. Cause isnt gossamer storm a fan name

[opaque sigil]

Iunno if I’d call that close

[lone crown]

Close enough

[opaque sigil]

It’s a fan name but it’s cool enough that I hope tc saw it and is using it

[serene chasm]

same

[harsh yarrow]

it is a cool name

[heady iron]

The game calls it G Sphere for ground and A Sphere for air

[lone crown]

Watch it just be called “Silk Cyclone” or something

[warped rock]

Watch it be called something like "string twirl"

[barren sequoia]

I hope hornet also has progression with her nail

Dont know how they would do it in comparison to hk upgrading though

Since the knights nail was already damaged

[opaque sigil]

The same they can do basically the same

[barren sequoia]

Probably is gonna the case

Could do a zelda like thing where you dont upgrade the same weapon

But instead unlock a better one

[serene chasm]

They might focus more on tool/crest upgrades vs needle upgrades

[floral delta]

Aw

[serene chasm]

Personally I find power upgrades kinda boring

[floral delta]

I have to learn a new tool system

But I'll probably find a way to achieve Balance

[barren sequoia]

I kinda like the idea of her getting a new nail though tbh

The one we've seen is just pretty basic

[serene chasm]

She uses a needle. not a nail. She is a refined lady

Basic?

[floral delta]

I

Am gonna

SUCK at combat until I reach like 40 hours

[serene chasm]

There is the harp crest that is closer to the HK combat style

[floral delta]

That looks like what I'm used to, meaning I don't have to learn anything new

No

[serene chasm]

But why buy a new game if you just want the old gameplay?

[floral delta]

What

[cunning geode]

true

[serene chasm]

If you want HK combat, why get SS?

[floral delta]

Ohhh

[barren sequoia]

Content

[floral delta]

I meant, No, I will not use that Crest

And learn the new combat

[heavy magnet]

i mean yeah
not averse to new mechanics or anything
but I would buy it just for new places to run around in

pretty colors to look at

delicious lores

[ornate gazelle]

new areas enemies bosses quests tools

[rustic ore]

blud thinks hes hornet

[heavy magnet]

this is actually crazy, now that I consider it from a combat mechanics standpoint

what the hell is even happening there

[floral delta]

TRUE

[heavy magnet]

an air attack into a whirling backflip
upside-down pirouette into spinning air slash

[ornate gazelle]

I actuall remember someone i know wishing you could play as the vessel in silksong

[warm thicket]

[floral delta]

Just play HK

[ornate gazelle]

they havent even finished the game

[ripe cliff]

I crave tomato soup

[heavy magnet]

someone will mod TK into SS

[lone crown]

The first attack is the running attack

It leaps you into the air before attacking forwards which launches you backwards diagonally

[floral delta]

[heavy magnet]

looks like some kind of sliding dash leap

[serene chasm]

Even the basic crest can be pretty acrobatic

[lone crown]

The buzzsaw pogo is self explanatory

[floral delta]

I'm gonna die so many times trying to be flashy, I just know it

[ornate gazelle]

I hope I like ss combat cause idk if ill be a fan of the tools that have limited uses

[lone crown]

Im very excited for the new dash ngl

[heavy magnet]

now i imagine Hornet setting her personal buzzsaw loose and you can pogo off it

[lone crown]

The flip looks way cooler

[barren sequoia]

The combat does look really fun but I'm all in for the world and the story

[warm thicket]

[lone crown]

Gameplay over everything

Obligatory

[lilac gyro]

like in april 2023?

[ornate gazelle]

Im in for everything

[barren sequoia]

I got like 20 dollars on even more children dying in ss

[lone crown]

Otherwise thats how you end up with Ori which is super mid and smelly

[barren sequoia]

I liked ori

[floral delta]

When I first played HK I focused on the Story and Lore because I was curious of how everything came to be before we arrived

[barren sequoia]

2

[ornate gazelle]

I want the good gameplay, the amazing graphics, and probably most importantly bosses for me at least

[barren sequoia]

At least

[ornate gazelle]

and lore

I liked ori 2 as well but I liked the platforming mostly

and i didnt like ori 1

[barren sequoia]

Great thing we wont have to wait for long though

[floral delta]

Side-note

[serene chasm]

same tbh

[floral delta]

The Fleas.

[barren sequoia]

Since ss will be at the xbox event this month

Obviously

[serene chasm]

But Im still gonna have fun with it

[floral delta]

I personally think it's gonna be a Living hell to find them all

[ornate gazelle]

I dont think the fleas will ever live up to grubs

[barren sequoia]

Chances are the game will have a map

Hk was smart enough to do it

[floral delta]

Because Collector trapped the grubs

[serene chasm]

fleas I dont care for. But the Caravan is gonna be cool

[floral delta]

The Fleas just wandered off

[barren sequoia]

They can figure out some lore reason

Or some item thats like a compass

[floral delta]

Surely

[ornate gazelle]

The collector was really cool lore wise

[floral delta]

OH SHIT

WAYWARD COMPASS WON'T BE IN SS

[lone crown]

Coral King lore

[floral delta]

MY INFINITE LUCK CHARM

NOOOOO

[lilac gyro]

compass exists

[floral delta]

Gasp

[lilac gyro]

or something similar

[floral delta]

Yippee

[serene chasm]

Or learn to read a map

[floral delta]

I did

[serene chasm]

kids these days. Relying too much of google maps

[floral delta]

Ik how to read maps in HK with Compass

-# Landmarks

[lone crown]

Imagine even needing landmarks smh

[floral delta]

Yes lemme just close my eyes and judge based off sound

[lone crown]

Mental maps…

[floral delta]

I did that for M Lords only

[lilac gyro]

i would look at the shape of the maps to do it

[floral delta]

Actually

Speedrunning made me learn routes

[ornate gazelle]

isnt silksongs world gonna be like 2x as large?

[serene chasm]

at least

[ornate gazelle]

a lot more stuff to remember

[barren sequoia]

Presumably the ss map lady is actually going tk be competent in her craft

Unlike cornifer

[lone crown]

Very likely to accomodate for Hornet’s sprinting, speed, and also taking up more of the screen

[ornate gazelle]

yeah thats what I remember

so therefore its gonna be a lot more map to remember

[young saffron]

lets play melon knight

[lone crown]

Gonna be easy as hell missing those breakable walls if you arent careful

[young saffron]

horo nite melonmelody

[lone crown]

Genuinely not bad for a fangame

[young saffron]

its actually good

[lone crown]

Yeah

[young saffron]

I hope my progress got saved

[lone crown]

It gets saved yeah

[young saffron]

phew it got saved

[floral delta]

Based on like the 4 places we've seen, what would be y'all's favorite place to explore?

[harsh yarrow]

Very excited to play the game

because screwing around with the various crests will be cool

[young saffron]

any type of foresty area, I love when the game becomes lively

[heavy magnet]

so far I think I like greymoor most

so delightfully dreary

[floral delta]

Me personally...

The lava area.

[ornate gazelle]

I think ill like the first area thats mossy

very nice and vibrant

highkey beautiful

[floral delta]

Mhm

[young saffron]

kinda dumb question but is there anyway I can see the code for this game?

[lone crown]

No idea

[serene chasm]

Probably what Im most excited for.

There better be a mini game that hornet can play against the other bugs in SS

[floral delta]

That looks like the room with the trap bench

[lone crown]

Greymoor, clover zone, desert area/wasteland, and the ruins sub-area where you fight the vine creature

I like all the areas

[floral delta]

Even the Lava area?

[lone crown]

Yeah of course

[floral delta]

Yes

[lone crown]

Deep docks and the bone zone got a glow up

[harsh yarrow]

Greymoor inn of sorts?

[lone crown]

Compared to treehouse

[shell yacht]

Coral area -3 points

[young saffron]

Hornet discovers gambling

[ripe cliff]

the coral forest area looks very visually stunning

[serene chasm]

Most likely. I named it Greymoor Tavern

[ornate gazelle]

I want something similar to the colosseum

[harsh yarrow]

Should be choral forest

YeAH

That seems likely

Excited to see

[floral delta]

I'm gonna spend like all of my time in Deep Docks

[harsh yarrow]

I assume it'll offer a bench + some quests from the tavern keep or something

like ridding the basement of rats

[floral delta]

Oh yeah, what are your guys' favorite quest gonna be?

[ornate gazelle]

Yk from hk when you sit at the bench in deep eat and the guys creep around you I want moments like that too

[floral delta]

-# Me personally it's gonna be gather

[harsh yarrow]

We really dont know enough to say

[floral delta]

[ripe cliff]

I know enough to say, but i'm not gonna tell you

[lone crown]

Dispatch the pukebug

[lilac gyro]

mirabelle 2

[slate wagon]

plz i want it

[carmine island]

What crest is that?

[harsh yarrow]

...

huh

[floral delta]

Hornet has a crest on?

[harsh yarrow]

I guess theres a 4th creast?

From these

5th*

[serene chasm]

Sonic crest

[harsh yarrow]

Base, Harp, Spikey, Claw

[floral delta]

The second and third crest look clawesome sauce

[serene chasm]

It might not be in the game anymore. Those images are from the edge mag so it might have been changed

[harsh yarrow]

You should put a mention of it on this Curly

But I assume we have very little of it?

[serene chasm]

Its only shown up on screenshots.

Plus I didnt make the original image

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah that'd do it

[floral delta]

I think my favorite crest (if it's still gonna be in game) is probably the second crest

-# gg

[harsh yarrow]

I want to screw with the claw crest

because the sawblade pogo seems equally annoying and funny

depends on if it still works as a pogo

[ripe cliff]

it looks very satisfying to use when executed correctly

[lone crown]

Real updated collage of all enemies

[harsh yarrow]

Yeah

[lone crown]

78

[carmine island]

You should add an obscure hollow knight enemy and see if anyone notices

[ripe cliff]

Ari cooked. all of them are very nicely designed

[harsh yarrow]

I really like the ants

[floral delta]

I forgot all about the Ants

The new Mantises

[lone crown]

Unsure if i should include the coral zone flying fish things as we have no idea if they’re killable

[ornate gazelle]

I liked the bees in hk I think imma like the ants

[harsh yarrow]

woudlnt be supprised if theyre like the weird floaty guys in the Lake of Unn room

[floral delta]

I'm gonna love and hate The Coral area

[harsh yarrow]

I wonder if Silksong will do proper dark rooms like Hollow Knight did

[harsh yarrow]

We least havent seen a lumafly lantern equivelent

[lucid holly]

Silksong is now just a lace dating sim

[carmine island]

It is actually

[floral delta]

I would never think of doing this

[carmine island]

Always has been

[harsh yarrow]

OH the down strike here is a tool!

[serene chasm]

yup

[harsh yarrow]

@lone crown- I think theres another resprite

[lone crown]

I cant unhear the clip that follows because both clips together sound awesome in the trailer

[harsh yarrow]

or not

[lone crown]

The one with the needle art

[silver oak]

I haven’t watched the trailers in a while

[harsh yarrow]

Huh.

[lone crown]

Lay it on me

[carmine island]

Yep

[harsh yarrow]

...that tool just isnt in your table Giant

[lucid holly]

Pilksong sponsored by Pepsi

[lone crown]

Yeah, I deliberately didn’t include it

It’s a redesign

[carmine island]

28.13 MB zip bomb

[lucid holly]

Scam download

[harsh yarrow]

Its the most up-to-date

[silver oak]

I wasn’t ASKING you curly

[serene chasm]

haha fools!

[harsh yarrow]

I'd say that should take priority

[lone crown]

The reason why I included the two moss ones were because it was up to debate kinda?

[harsh yarrow]

But I think it also implies that its related to

[lucid holly]

[harsh yarrow]

E1 and E2

[carmine island]

What about E1331?

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[carmine island]

I’ll leave

[carmine island]

Hey Andy

[serene chasm]

Hey, Necro.

[lone crown]

Is this silksong geoguessr

[serene chasm]

yes

[silver oak]

No I’m not in practice

[lucid holly]

Chat am I insane for thinking ss might be mid

[silver oak]

I also literally don’t have access to youtube rn

[lucid holly]

[serene chasm]

Its ok

[harsh yarrow]

Your just mid

[carmine island]

Hollow knight was mid so Silksong will also be mid

[serene chasm]

I understand. You just dont want to hang out anymore. People move on

[silver oak]

You can’t true your own message

It doesn’t work like that

[lucid holly]

[silver oak]

WHAT

WHEN WAS THIS ADDED

[wheat sail]

1987

[carmine island]

Have you not seen shralse?

[silver oak]

I have literally never seen this before what the fuck

[lucid holly]

https://tenor.com/view/ultra-kill-gif-26584543

[carmine island]

[lucid holly]

[atomic sparrow]

like a week or two ago

[lucid holly]

Now we need maybe

Shaybe

Shrabye

[shell yacht]

Like 6 years ago dude wake up

[warped rock]

WHAT?!

[young saffron]

time to go P rank 7-1 😔

[silver oak]

I wasn’t even in this server 6 years ago idiot

Oh god I’ll have been in this server for 6 years this year

[violet path]

I cant imagine being above 16

[cunning geode]

oh boy

have fun

[floral delta]

I'm getting close to 16

[shell yacht]

Okay imagine every movement you do make something pop or creak and sometimes you wake up wrong and everything hurts

[floral delta]

So

Me already

[cunning geode]

you have no idea

[shell yacht]

That was me at 22

[young saffron]

im going to fucking cry I died to the final minotaur boss

and that was suciide by my own projectile boost

[floral delta]

-#

[young saffron]

ultrakill 7-1 P rank

[floral delta]

Oh, Ultrakill

[cunning geode]

yall kids growing up with ultrakill is like me growing up with undertale when i was a young teen

[floral delta]

I grew up with Minecraft P.E

[cunning geode]

no i mean as a massively popular indie title

[floral delta]

My first massively popular indie game was probably Cuphead

[shell yacht]

Didn't Minecraft start as an indie

[floral delta]

Mhm

[cunning geode]

yeah

[serene chasm]

Indies didnt exist when I was a kid

[cunning geode]

shush

[shell yacht]

I can't think of any from my childhood off top of my head

[carmine island]

I don’t think kids should be growing up with ultrakill let them play an actually good game

[atomic sparrow]

is his cup his head or smth

[cunning geode]

you dont understand

[shell yacht]

Actually something from your era curly would be like Banjo-Kazooie

[carmine island]

I don’t understand most things

[cunning geode]

i meant as a game super popular around that time and everyone knows about and talks about

[serene chasm]

I was a playstation kid, so Crash and Spyro were my jam

[shell yacht]

Hell yeah

https://tenor.com/view/spyro-spyro-the-dragon-moneybags-hit-gif-12002222

[carmine island]

Yeah but ultrakill is pretty niche compared to undertale

[cunning geode]

yeah it hasnt blown up AS much but its still a lot

[shell yacht]

Undertale was niche until the internet blew it up, is the ultra kill community still that small?

[serene chasm]

Thank you Spyro for teaching me to hate late stage capitalism

[young saffron]

crash bandicoot peak

[carmine island]

Btw wombat there’s a new ultrakill update on the 24th

[floral delta]

Ewm, that's after da Fowtnite update

[carmine island]

I’m not talking about Fortnite

[floral delta]

Ik

[shell yacht]

The next battle pass is so mid

[young saffron]

reading comprehension devil strikes

[floral delta]

[cunning geode]

yeh ive heard but i mean i still havent played 7-1 because i havent felt like playing for a long while

[floral delta]

Not even the joke character looks good

[shell yacht]

The joke character is a fucking pickle that they cooked up with Godzilla's radiation

And Midas coming back again

[young saffron]

Also cause 7-1 is fucking garbage

[coarse leaf]

unless you're even older than i thought they definitely did

[floral delta]

Midas is like the only mid looking character

[shell yacht]

The skins are Midas, Pickle, some idiot with a traffic cone hat, Subzero, and like five generic criminals in ski masks

[cunning geode]

no its just because i havent wanted to play the game

[serene chasm]

The only real indie I can think of is Cave Story and I didnt play that til I was 18

[carmine island]

7-1 is actually peak

[floral delta]

Pickle

[atomic sparrow]

what the new fortnite skins ?

[serene chasm]

World of Goo is the oldest indie I can think of and I was already an adult when that came out

[carmine island]

7-2 is probably my favourite level tho

[shell yacht]

Yeah for the new season that comes in about a week

[carmine island]

?

[shell yacht]

Season 1 absolute fire, season 2 dog water

[coarse leaf]

indie games existed since like, early early ps1 days, it's just you never really heard about them and still don't hear about them a ton because indie games weren't a thing people really paid attention to that much at the time

[floral delta]

Real

[coarse leaf]

Moon RPG is a really good one

[floral delta]

At least I fully completed the Battle Pass and Bonus Rewards before the shite stuff arrives

[shell yacht]

Wait what about shantae? Is that / was that Indie? That one's almost older than me I think

[coarse leaf]

the advent of convenient internet did so much for indie games being able to actually sell well it's unreal

[serene chasm]

k

[shell yacht]

Damn never mind Capcom published it

[serene chasm]

Finding actual self published indies was very hard

[shell yacht]

Also 2002 I thought it was way older

[coarse leaf]

yeah

if you heard about any indie games back then it would've had to have been purely by word of mouth

so most just did really terribly in sales

[serene chasm]

Do flash games count as indie?

[shell yacht]

Actually I guess the only Indie from my "childhood" besides Minecraft would be slenderman and those flash powder games

[serene chasm]

Cause Fancy Pants Adventure and N+ were my jam in my youth

[young saffron]

kill me

[atomic sparrow]

why is his pants so...

fancy

also didn't fancy pants have a sister or smth

[carmine island]

Screwdriver can help a lot with the Minotaur fight if you’re struggling with healing