sk-discussion

[icy pumice]

One more year ... I can't take it anymore

[eager basalt]

I'm not a believer if you can tell lol

[quartz hull]

dev hell i thoroughly disagree with because the cracks would've been more visible

[analog forge]

why april 2?

[quartz hull]

been in the game since 2022, if i can survive another year or so, so can you

[eager basalt]

Nah you can hide it. It's just scope creep usually

[quartz hull]

Scope creep =/= dev hell

Scope creep is def a thing, but thats moreso the project getting more ambitious as they go along

[icy pumice]

Last year one of testers said there was no dev hell

[quartz hull]

still possible, but as they expand and expand the project its gonna take longer to work on

[wheat sail]

They are not in dev hell like star citizen

[eager basalt]

Yeah, until it's spaghetti

[wheat sail]

😄

[quartz hull]

They can always go back and rewrite messy code

even then scope stuff is moreso talking about before stuff is even coded

[young saffron]

Lies

[eager basalt]

Thatd hard to do when there are thousands and thousands of lines of code

It's hard to do when code relies on code which relies on code...

[floral delta]

Red Ball 4

[coarse leaf]

I don't think they're on dev hell

[quartz hull]

like maybe when making a 1-off quest, they decided "hm, what if this boss was related to this other area" and so on

and a 1-off random room is now a full-on area

[quartz hull]

hard, but not impossible. Ultrakill is rewriting a lot of its old code rn

[eager basalt]

It's the only thing I could think of that would make them not put out new videos, etc

[analog forge]

I think dev hell is almost unilaterally created by disagreement, especially between produces and devolpers

[quartz hull]

even then you arent gonna just spit out code without an idea first lol

[eager basalt]

Yeah not impossible, but as a developer myself I'd call that he'll

[analog forge]

i dont think team cherry is suffering from strong internal disagreement

[eager basalt]

Hell lol

[timber peak]

I think the reason why it is taking so long is that they probably are adding more features or changing it here and there

[quartz hull]

Something tedious is not dev hell

[timber peak]

With higher expectations, gotta refine it as much as possible hm?

[analog forge]

nor do i think they're suffering from the tech just not being there and hard to implement

[quartz hull]

TC's biggest gripe with hollow knight was that it was rushed

now that funds arent an issue, they can take as much time as they want to refine the final product

[iron spear]

Can't have scope creep if you never had a scope initially

[frozen frigate]

thats why you always hipfire

[rich halo]

hipfire game development has a nice ring to it

[wheat sail]

0 to 1 scope is an infinitely times bigger scope

[grand ferry]

360 noscope

[iron spear]

Exactly

[wheat sail]

so 1 to 1 million is small

[wheat sail]

CANT BREAK ME DOWN BURY ME BURY ME

[eager basalt]

Could be that they didn't set clear goals and now have a mess of a game

[grand ferry]

what are you saying

[quartz hull]

even if there isnt an internal defined scope if they keep expanding and expanding on ideas to refine em, thats gonna delay development

[wheat sail]

nevermind

[eager basalt]

But for how long? 6 years now?

[quartz hull]

From what we know from the playtesters, i doubt its a mess

[wheat sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Fes8Up1tA

[iron spear]

No good art has a scope. It's finished when you decide. TC aren't a churn game out company. There is a reason it's three ppl. It's a passion focused game studio

[quartz hull]

Because they have all the time and funds in the world to work on this

[grand ferry]

video blocked on discord

[quartz hull]

if you had infinite time at your disposal, you'd spend as long as possible making the best game you can, would you not?

[eager basalt]

Good games should have defined scope, otherwise they're never finished

[iron spear]

Well you have a story that's a scope

[analog sphinx]

Silksong started as a hornet dlc, so it probably started with extra functionality for hornet, but they couldn’t fit her in hallownest so they made a couple areas for her story, and now they are developing a whole game that might be 2x the size of hollow knight

[eager basalt]

I would unless I had Microsoft breathing down my neck as they do / did

[quartz hull]

tbf its hard to define scope when you go from having to raise a kickstarter to fund hollow knight to having a comparitively much more massive budget at your disposal

plus it has to live up to hollow knight

one of the best indie games ever

[eager basalt]

I understand that they're taking forever and are a small team, I just see it as mismanagement

[young saffron]

Test

[eager basalt]

Unless they just really don't care about releasing in a timely fashion, which past info makes it seem they do

[quartz hull]

They very well could've underestimated how much they could have done at the very start and kept expanding to make sure every area was polished

[wheat sail]

15 years of dev...

[floral delta]

That's how you know it's gonna be clawesome sauce

[eager basalt]

Yeah i could see that being an option

[quartz hull]

Again, they're going to polish and polish until its flawless in their eyes

[floral delta]

not

[lucid holly]

Games gonna be sweet I’m excited

[eager basalt]

Idk man, have you seen cube world? Lots of dev time does not mean quality

At least not automatically

[floral delta]

Cube World?

[lucid holly]

What is cube world

[quartz hull]

i can tell silksong's OST is gonna be a banger. Imagine a final boss theme with the LIVE ORCHESTRA that they confirmed is working on it

[eager basalt]

Man I'm old

[analog sphinx]

I don’t think they have a clear scope for what they want silksong to be (or at least they didn’t until later into development), so they probably have to tweak a lot of stuff now to give what was originally a dlc the depth and gameplay of a full game as good as hollow knight

[wheat sail]

maybe they will finish up when they realize " i dont wanna work on this forever "

[eager basalt]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7pPtzQSYQB0

[wheat sail]

[young saffron]

They will keep working until the game is good, so probably 2028

[eager basalt]

It was going to be a banger, got 6 years of dev time, and was worse than alpha

[quartz hull]

Agreed. The wait is affected TC as much as its affecting us

[floral delta]

I was 2 when this came out

[eager basalt]

It's crazy that people were born after Minecraft came out lol

[coarse leaf]

i was born just after Roblox

[floral delta]

The earliest version of Minecraft I remember is when the ender dragon came out

[coarse leaf]

I thought you were talking about hello neighbor lol

me and roblox we're like cousins

[eager basalt]

I was born when Shrek 1 came out

[floral delta]

-# It was an old console that wasn't updated

[coarse leaf]

That game's alphas were also better than the final game

[floral delta]

Man do I miss Sword Blocking

Old version of Crouch spamming to team

[coarse leaf]

It's back (kinda)

[eager basalt]

I first played Minecraft when the end was added

[floral delta]

Woah

[young saffron]

Babies

[eager basalt]

I remember when villager trading was added, it was huge

[floral delta]

For real

[void lynx]

womp womp

[floral delta]

-# I always made the blacksmith my home

[coarse leaf]

Good luck bro

Oh wait that was yesterday

Well we kinda got news?

[void lynx]

yeah i just woke up

[eager basalt]

The news is that it was a troll

[coarse leaf]

Sooooo

[lucid holly]

No way people weren’t alive when Minecraft came out

[eager basalt]

For real

[coarse leaf]

IT COULD BE REAL

[lucid holly]

You are like 3 years old

[floral delta]

Hm

[wheat sail]

I was there with notch when he made minecraft pre alpha

[zenith parrot]

news?

[analog sphinx]

Some Fortnite players are probably younger than fortnite itself

[eager basalt]

They're 14, or 16 if you count alpha

[void lynx]

nah not really

[coarse leaf]

Kinda

[floral delta]

It's like

[lucid holly]

That’s what I said

[zenith parrot]

which?

[coarse leaf]

I'm desperate, i'll just take everything as news at this point

[eager basalt]

Imagine being younger than the wii

[floral delta]

People engage in... The birds and the bees... After Minecraft came out

[wheat sail]

we gettin fortnite players getting nostalgia over stuff from 2019

[coarse leaf]

Check r/silksong

[lucid holly]

It’s fake you fell for the bait xenon

[wheat sail]

then again 2019 was 6 years ago 🧓

[coarse leaf]

I'm nostalgic over chapter 2

[quartz hull]

2024 was 143 years ago

[zenith parrot]

the E1331 thing?

[floral delta]

[analog sphinx]

I can’t believe Silksong was revealed 1331 years ago

[zenith parrot]

I'm gonna die today fr

[coarse leaf]

Yeah

Can't belive 0 was 2089 years ago

[floral delta]

[wanton kernel]

im so confused was the e1331 thing real or not? It seems like the message was directly from TC in a way but all the stuff leth’s said is making me think otherwise

[analog sphinx]

Can’t believe silksong will release in 0 millennia (when rounded down)

[eager basalt]

Can't wait for silksong to release with the switch 4 season pass

[young saffron]

He has 0 connection to team cherry

[cloud yew]

it’s not real

[turbid lark]

The silksanity is so bad, I woke up at 00:30, it's 8:42 I'm still awake

[wanton kernel]

mhm I know that but was literally the entire thing just another big silkpost again..

[zenith parrot]

leth we need news pls!

[young saffron]

Yep

[wanton kernel]

man.

[cloud yew]

the message sounded nothing like team cherry

[analog sphinx]

I think we should wait until Feb 14 for news. I can’t wait for leth to tell us that team Cherry are still hard at work on the game

[young saffron]

A message from team cherry would probably sound something like this:

" "

[zenith parrot]

ahahahahah

[lucid holly]

Are people insane??? People on the Reddit are so mad at team cherry

[eager basalt]

Just like a year ago lol

"Hey guys we tooootally didn't run away with the money"

[lucid holly]

???

[eager basalt]

Just echoing the subreddit lol

[cloud yew]

not again

[haughty ingot]

honestly i'm kinda bothered that he made this part of the message look like it came from TC even though he says it wasn't

[analog sphinx]

People on Reddit get mad at team Cherry for everything. No show at game awards? “Team Cherry doesn’t deserve their fan base”. Cake arg? “This miscommunication is unacceptable”. Baited again? “Team Cherry needs to communicate with us”

[cloud yew]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

Leth is baiting us trust

E1331 is a prophet

Silksong is coming out soon

[lucid holly]

I’m very annoyed at how Reddit is acting like team cherry owes them anything. They need to understand they are a tiny subset of the people who have played hk/ will play ss and to be that mean and that hateful then EXPECT SOMETHING from them is absolutely unhinged the Reddit needs to go

[fossil ravine]

Is that from the same Reddit user troll posting?

[eager basalt]

Agreed lol

[wanton kernel]

I will believe..

the cope

[eager basalt]

The subreddit is for a game that doesn't doesn't exist yet, it's just people going nuts

Entertaining tho

[lucid holly]

Zal you need to ban the Reddit users pleases

[quartz hull]

despite revealing it as bait he still made it weirdly vague

[cloud yew]

new channel #reddit-jail

[quartz hull]

was the image origin ever found btw?

[coarse leaf]

I'll just take everything as news at this point

[quartz hull]

like where the open door TC office he used was from?

[haughty ingot]

from the new e1331 post

[coarse leaf]

Nope

[cloud yew]

i haven’t looked at the subreddit is anyone mad at E1331 or are people just mad at team cherry

[cloud yew]

i don’t think so but it looks edited to me

[quartz hull]

the fact we havent found the OG image is odd

[lucid holly]

They are mad at TC somehow

[quartz hull]

the note/signature is absolutely edited (E1331 admitted to it) but said the office itself is real

[lucid holly]

Mostly they are mad at leth fo the most recent pinned comment

[coarse leaf]

Honestly i think it's an original image

[eager basalt]

Used to live in Australia

[fossil ravine]

Are they trying hard to grasp attention? That's annoying.

[charred hound]

It is dw about it

[analog sphinx]

Maybe he’s just really good at photoshop. If you look at his aquarium edit from before the countdown thing, it looks pretty good for a silkpost

[coarse leaf]

They would've already found the image by now if it wasn't

[cloud yew]

he is good at photoshop

[lucid holly]

He’s a master silkposter

[coarse leaf]

A master baiter you could say

[lucid holly]

[lucid holly]

[haughty ingot]

this if you wanna read it https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1ie5eiz/its_good_to_be_back/

[lucid holly]

Yoooo I’m planning a Mount Denali trip for this summer I should play Silksong on the summit

[young saffron]

play firewatch

[lucid holly]

Or if the game isn’t out I record “no news today” from the tallest point in NA

[fossil ravine]

Unrelated but I checked other topics and I'm already seeing misinformation 😭 They weren't directly responding to the post here.

[wanton kernel]

Yoo hi ara since ur here now what honestly are ur thoughts on all of this do u think it’s real or not

[patent obsidian]

Frfr

[lucid holly]

Yea lol he was responding to a random person

[patent obsidian]

I have hope

Even after i get baited eventually

The cope will continue

[haughty ingot]

I can tell you for certain it's not real and that people shouldn't take something a guy says online over official sources

[charred hound]

It gets difficult not to hope when the bait is real

[lucid holly]

Are you a fool

[wet prism]

was the 150k comment on the banner in reference to your channel?

[cloud yew]

it’s the most obvious bait ever

[patent obsidian]

The cope
Shall
Continue
No
Matter
What

[lucid holly]

Oh it’s the daily Silksong news dude

[charred hound]

Doubters will be in shambles soon🙏

[quartz hull]

editing-wise the writing is pretty fake if you look at it for long enough, but if the actual background is edited he did a damn good job

[patent obsidian]

☠️ yes

[wanton kernel]

Bait was believed.

[haughty ingot]

Maybe because I decided to make a post "betting" that he's just trolling

[quartz hull]

i will say the reflection on the door is odd, i feel like from that angle it wouldnt reflect like that

[wanton kernel]

yeaa u have a lot on the line lmfao

[lucid holly]

The grain is off it’s edited in

[wanton kernel]

on what

[patent obsidian]

150k isn't JUST "alot"

[fossil ravine]

Zooming in on the picture makes it easy to notice that it's fake/edited.

[lucid holly]

Imagine playing Silksong here

[wanton kernel]

Imagine coping there

[young saffron]

pretty

[analog sphinx]

Imagine playing silksong

[lucid holly]

Imagine playing Silksong here

[haughty ingot]

I raised my own life there

[young saffron]

ara what are you most excited for in silksong

[quartz hull]

could be entirely going crazy but i feel like the reflection is off here

[patent obsidian]

The silk and the song

[haughty ingot]

Forget the channel if I were to be wrong I'd be dead

[lucid holly]

Also holy I didn’t realize the framing and composition of this shot was so hype

[wanton kernel]

ur bet said that he’s not a part of TC, but he still could be indirectly connected to them in some way and you’d keep your channel tho

[wet prism]

shame the end of this seemingly just led to more confusion, it was kinda fun during the countdown but now its just like what

[quartz hull]

yea, if he edited the actual background photo he did a damn good job

[cloud yew]

imagine playing silksong here

[quartz hull]

the only thing that was kinda ehhhh was the writing but even then he admitted to that being fake

[patent obsidian]

Y'all focusing so much i didn't even realize this

[lucid holly]

Silksong here would go crazy

[patent obsidian]

I would go crazy

[quartz hull]

yea, i feel like there'd be some more distortion in the glass reflection. Very likely he took another photo of TC's office's glass and put it over the door

[analog sphinx]

Imagine playing silksong on a flight like this

[lucid holly]

Holy brother

[patent obsidian]

Oh don't worry ppl will be do caught up with e1331 that they will forget what you said 😭

[quartz hull]

screw E1331 I WILL FIND THE RELEASE DATE

[worn valley]

Grasssong

[lucid holly]

Going through my camera roll is fun

[patent obsidian]

Switch goes hard here

[wet prism]

I hope we get something in February

[patent obsidian]

Is it all literally just scenery

[serene ore]

I think you and the reddit mod aren't in contradiction. I think they are just hyping up a vague "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy" kind of "relationship" that e1331 has with someone in TC.

[lucid holly]

Silksong here???

[lucid holly]

Mostly yea

[charred hound]

Nintendo direct is in a few days after all🥶

[patent obsidian]

Funny ahh image ngl

[fossil ravine]

Oh they outright said that, why aren't people listening then?

[young saffron]

seriously?

[wet prism]

silksong here would go crazy

[patent obsidian]

Huh?

[quartz hull]

thanks, made it a lil while back

[cloud yew]

silksong here

[lucid holly]

That’s sick where’d you take that

[quartz hull]

HORNET CAME OUT

[charred hound]

According to some leaks there should be a direct in early february not sure how accurate this is though

[patent obsidian]

Because e1331 said some pretty weird stuff furthur into the post such as "even if i was part of TC i wouldn't announce it to anyone" or something like that down the line

[patent obsidian]

Hopefully accurate

[cloud yew]

the temperate rainforest near loch lomond

[wet prism]

I wouldnt be too surprised, though id place more bets on silksong being in the april direct if it appears in a direct at all

[patent obsidian]

Bruh how many

[charred hound]

Yeah me too

[quartz hull]

on the OG post i saw somebody comparing UFO conspiracy subreddits to r/silksong and honestly i see it

[wet prism]

silksong as a switch 2 launch title would go crazy

[lucid holly]

Like a million I hike and climb for a living during summers

[patent obsidian]

Wtf 😭

[charred hound]

I think it's getting more and more likely for it to be a launch title

[patent obsidian]

Yooo that sounds fun lowkey

[quartz hull]

both desperately cling onto sources with sketchy info because they want the claims to be true

[wet prism]

even if its not at least the switch 2 launch will be a good distraction lmao. Im very excited for the new mario kart

[quartz hull]

even tho E1331 was never reputable from the start

[young saffron]

Silksong here 😔😔😔

[lucid holly]

Is that in Hawaii

[quartz hull]

cant wait for SilkCart

[cloud yew]

silksong hereeee

[lucid holly]

My home turf???

[patent obsidian]

I mean if it launches day one on the switch 2, and day one when it releases on xbox game pass, those are some crazy connections they have

[young saffron]

Mine? No in Sri Lanka

[lucid holly]

Also damn veng what camera are you using

Sri Lanka is very nice

[young saffron]

Holy shit what are you shooting on 😭😭😭

[cloud yew]

iphone camera lmao

[lucid holly]

Bait

[cloud yew]

i have an iphone 13

[charred hound]

Well hollow knight is quite big

[lucid holly]

Venge is a bigger baiter than E1331

[wet prism]

crowkart before silkkart came out 😔 crowsworn fans win again

[patent obsidian]

Yeah but the team isn't

[cloud yew]

the colours are tweaked but the camera is just an iphone camera

[young saffron]

Silksong in that small little house 😔😔😔

[lucid holly]

I only have an iPhone 8

[cloud yew]

i have better quality pictures from the same place that my boyfriend took bc he’s a photographer

i’ll see if i can find them

[quartz hull]

i need to start messing around with colors more in my photos lmao

[young saffron]

This is on an iPhone 9?? It's really good. You should try editing

[lucid holly]

Shaw here

[coarse leaf]

Me rn

[lucid holly]

This but call Leth a slur and you’ve got the Reddit

[quartz hull]

im summoning him btw, watch your back

[lucid holly]

Im not exactly hiding

[wet prism]

BUT BUT THEY SAID "see you soon"!!!!!!!! IT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING

[lucid holly]

It’s very obviously a well developed island

[cloud yew]

silksong here

[quartz hull]

gary, indiana
final answer

[lucid holly]

I have been there

[full rune]

"this is Nu'uanu Pali"
Slams space bar

[hard meadow]

To be fair, i expected something more for a legendary trollpost

[quartz hull]

yea thats where the photo was

[agile plover]

...Well, shit, what now

[wet prism]

its in your name

april 2nd FOR SURE

[lucid holly]

Silksong here

[echo dock]

wow that looks nice

[lucid holly]

So true tho

[young saffron]

Man I need to get my license and leave town more often

[spare kite]

mfw the famous troller trolls, wallahi

[full rune]

Looks like black Gunnison

[young saffron]

Lmaoo that wallahi

[cloud yew]

need this

[coarse leaf]

I'm going to sleep now
Gn chat

[cloud yew]

gn xenon

[lucid holly]

Dying to radiance here

[full rune]

Michigan

[lucid holly]

Zal can you locate every image

[young saffron]

ignore the ugly border

[lucid holly]

I will give you 2 dollars if you can

You’ve gotten 1 right

[full rune]

Without Google lense? Idk

[paper karma]

GUYS THE SKONG COULD STILL HAPPEN

[lucid holly]

I allow google lense

[full rune]

Black Gunnison is probably right.

[cloud yew]

chilling with elderbug here

[young saffron]

Zal incinerate him

[hoary yarrow]

Silksong here

[paper karma]

REMEMBER THE BANNER OF 1, E1331 IS TAKING OVER DAILY SILKSONG NEWS

[lucid holly]

Which one do you think black gunnison is

[cloud yew]

hey i’ve been there

[young saffron]

FROM vibes

[lucid holly]

Cuz I’ve never been to black gunnison

[paper karma]

NEXT DSN WE GET NEWS, JUST WAIT AND SEE WE GETTING THE NEWS THE BIG NEWS THE GIGANEWS THE BIGGEST NEWS SINCE THE REVEAL ITS GONNA COME

[full rune]

This one

[wet prism]

just deconfirmed in this server lmao

[paper karma]

THAT IS TO LOWER HYPE. WHY WOULD HE DO THE LAST VIDEO WITH THE POLICE AND SAYING "E1331" AT THE END OTHERWISE????

[lucid holly]

No that is Smith Rock in Bend Oregon

[full rune]

Also gives me Pakistan / India mountain vibes

[paper karma]

IT WILL HAPPEN JUST WAIT AND SEE

[quartz hull]

Imagine believing the E1331 post here

[wet prism]

perhaps he also fell for the bait...

[lucid holly]

Silksong here????

[coarse leaf]

what the fuck are we talking about this time

[paper karma]

ITS NOT BAIT ITS REAL. IF NEXT DSN IS NOTHING ILL ADMIT ITS BAIT BUT UNTIL THEN WE DON'T KNOW

[lucid holly]

Someone mute this dude I’m trying to post sweet photos

[coarse leaf]

did e1331 post a new imagine dragons song yet or smth

[paper karma]

SKONGERS!

[inland ravine]

what the fuck why are there so many pics of people saying silksong

😭

[cloud yew]

that special kind of misery you only get from scottish winters

[full rune]

These seem like Colorado mountains

[lucid holly]

Not wrong

[grand ferry]

nuclear winter

[cloud yew]

it’s so bad

[wet prism]

this is the silksong discussion channel man you cant mute someone for discussing silksong 😭

[cloud yew]

my vitamin D levels are in the negatives

[paper karma]

you cant imply this video is NOT implying e1331 is doing something with dsn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhHPVUZKf4

[full rune]

?tag source

[white sail]

No tag source found.

[lucid holly]

God forbid a guy makes a joke

[coarse leaf]

i can imply that

[full rune]

Dammit

[inland ravine]

peoples are going insane

[paper karma]

its obvious E1331 will be in the next DSN and it could be news but it could be bait

[coarse leaf]

i didnt watch the video but i already know that that is not what it means

[full rune]

?tag sources

[white sail]

Official and reliable sources of information about Hollow Knight and Hollow Knight Silksong

• Leth's twitter / Team Cherry's twitter
• This server ( we keep up to date with the actual news in #hk-announcements , with micro-updates sometimes pinned in #sk-discussion )
• r/hollowknight pinned messages by the mod team
• Team Cherry's official YouTube channel and Website

Any and all information outside of this cannot be verified as truth, consume outside information at your own risk

[lucid holly]

If you could guess the mountain I’m on Zal I’d be mighty impressed

[paper karma]

e1331 literally said he's going to get a 150k channel soon, its clearly daily silkskong news

[cloud yew]

help

[coarse leaf]

surely we should take everything he says literal and serious

[lucid holly]

Me when beans

[paper karma]

just wait and see

[coarse leaf]

e1331 would never lie to us, our lord and saviour

[cloud yew]

yeah bc ara made a joke post betting his channel that E1331 was lying

[paper karma]

next DSN will be hosted by e1331, and something big will be there

[coarse leaf]

hes like fireb0rn

shit wrong reply

10 sec slowmode whaddahell

[paper karma]

true, and if it was just that i'd believe it. but last dsn implies E1331 is chasing ara which means he lost aka E1331 IS WITH TEAM CHERRY

[lucid holly]

If the game isn’t out by August I will record myself doing daily Silksong news on top of mount Denali

[paper karma]

the newest e1331 comment? the "proof its bait" THATS BAIT. ONE LAST BAIT OF E1331 BEFORE THE NEWS

[cloud yew]

ur setting urself up for disappointment

[paper karma]

if its nothing i dont care

[coarse leaf]

ur setting yourself up for the asylum at this point what in the yap

[paper karma]

im a r/silksong member

[lucid holly]

MODS BAN THIS GUY

self reporting too is nuts

[wet prism]

I want to believe but I truly think its silkover

[full rune]

Phoenix is my only guess. Doesn't look like Mt massive

[paper karma]

ok after the next daily silksong news if its nothing I WILL ADMIT THIS WAS ALL A BAIT

[full rune]

We can tell lol

[lucid holly]

Its not a 14er

[cloud yew]

radiance here

[lucid holly]

But I do love mount massive

The Elbert massive hike is awesome 2 summits in one day like 19 miles

[wet prism]

I remember truly thinking the game would come out early 2023

[full rune]

Wheeler?

[lucid holly]

Good guess

Another fun mountain I’ve done trail work up wheeler

[full rune]

I only know some Colorado mountains cause of Virtual Sherpa on YT

[lucid holly]

Another hint: there are no trails on this mountain

And the nearest road in is 4 miles to the base of it or so

[full rune]

I wouldn't be able to guess

[lucid holly]

It’s Mount Silverheels

13998 ev lol

899 sorry

[full rune]

Radiance here tho

[lucid holly]

Very good framing;
Now let’s see Paul Allen’s card

[full rune]

Got lucky with the timing

[kindred pewter]

Zal go fight the sun

[cloud yew]

wait i have a picture of cool clouds i saw and no one ever thinks they’re as cool as i think they are

[lucid holly]

Radiance here

[full rune]

I envy in-cloud shots

[cloud yew]

isn’t this so cool

[lucid holly]

It’s hard finding images without me or someone else in them

[frozen frigate]

im still confused about what destroyed outpost one in godzilla x kong the new empire

[lucid holly]

Start rocking some 14ers

[cloud yew]

that whole area of the sky looked weird and kind of like mother of pearl

[lucid holly]

Oh yea

[cloud yew]

the picture doesn’t do it much justice

[inland ravine]

this image goes hard

[lucid holly]

No I can totally see the tinge of pearl

[inland ravine]

feel free to save it

[lucid holly]

New hk discord competition “Silksong here” age contest

[torpid nova]

WOW, INCREDIBLE REVEAL FROM E1331

[inland ravine]

i remember i used to love rainbows so much, i took my dad's DVD and plays with it

[cloud yew]

this isn’t my picture but this is kind of what it looked like

[inland ravine]

and a torch

[lucid holly]

Looks dope

[cloud yew]

they’re called nacreous clouds apparently

[lucid holly]

Seeet

Love this one

[frozen frigate]

might buy a panini

[cloud yew]

i love when the sky does cool shit i hope i get to see the northern lights again this year

[lucid holly]

I think composition wise it’s a good one

[cloud yew]

the water looks so cool here

[lucid holly]

Yea also the image is cut into 3 diagonal stripes with the top left clouds and the bottom right wake

It makes it more dynamic

Idk I’m a nerd

[young saffron]

I think one day I'll wake up and there will be a camera next to me

[lucid holly]

I’m just using the I phone

[rotund ridge]

our lord e1331 will deliver us from the bait, i believe

[lucid holly]

Deliver to the bait*

[charred pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/spj-slota-gigachad-gif-26369460

[cloud yew]

northern lights from ummm may last year?? i think

[lucid holly]

Sick

[fossil ravine]

Pretty!

[cloud yew]

kind of nuts to see them like that in summer

we didn’t even come far out of the city i was surprised the light pollution wasn’t more of a problem

[rocky flicker]

Wow that’s beautiful

[cloud yew]

i want to see them again so bad but it’s been cloudy every other time they’ve appeared

[lucid holly]

Venge are you a Brit

[rocky flicker]

Giant leafblower

[cloud yew]

it was also cloudy the ENTIRE time that comet was visible so like two fucking weeks

[cloud yew]

yep scottish

[young saffron]

I'm the next truman

[young saffron]

Where do you live bro 😭😭

[lucid holly]

Sweet I love Scotland it’s gorgeous

[young saffron]

It goes in my bucket list

[lucid holly]

My buddies live in Edinburgh it’s fun

[cloud yew]

oh i love edinburgh

the architecture in edinburgh is beautiful

[lucid holly]

Yea

[cloud yew]

i’m sure you’d love it

i’m gonna try to go to the isle of skye in summer bc it’s sooo pretty

[lucid holly]

Anyways I gotta sleep I’m going hiking tommorow I’ll send photos

[cloud yew]

gn :Þ

[carmine island]

Ennea go the hell to bed it’s 3am

[rustic ore]

muffin i see you typing i can explain

fuck

[carmine island]

No explains

[rustic ore]

[carmine island]

Bedtime now

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/a-mimir-cat-reversed-gif-16747359482824525043

[sage hare]

Edinburgh mentioned ‼️ 🔥 🔥 ‼️

[ashen sedge]

How's the silksong community doing?

[worthy spear]

So did we get news?

[unborn moat]

Nope

[minor wind]

Not...good

[carmine island]

Same as ever and just as entertaining

[minor wind]

Believing that a shitposter works with Team Cherry is to another level of delusional

[carmine island]

Fell for it again award

[radiant dragon]

pain

[minor wind]

People genuinely going insane over the lack of communication

[torpid nova]

And next time the same will happen, such is the fate of believers

[hard meadow]

Hopefully they will win at least once

[kindred pewter]

Enna for god sake give a sound warning

now my 98 yr old nephew is deaf because of you

[wheat sail]

I don't hear anything

[median kernel]

on fire

once again the believers are believing, and the doubters are calling bait.
Either way, its gonna be great and go down in skong history

[placid ether]

Holt shit guys

It's actually them, they wrote it

Everything between "If I was part of TC..." and "is something I would say"

It's like an open letter to us

[inland badger]

Who's the owner of this server? Just threaten to kill this server and Silksong news will definitely come out from Team Cherry.

[wheat sail]

me

[placid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[inland badger]

Same with the Subreddit, just make it private for some time until news come out. No need to delete there.

[placid ether]

"Literal blood, sweat and tears went into making this, which by the looks of it, may be our last game we will work on together"

[noble thistle]

Did i miss an unusual amount of drama?

[placid ether]

No. No drama.

[noble thistle]

I see

[placid ether]

Just potentially the first bit of actual TC communication in years delivered in such an emotional way

At least in my opinion

Silksong is probably going to be TC's magnum opus, with them retiring after this

[wheat sail]

i hope they never retire

[hard meadow]

I vaguely remember something about a copyright for "curious fox" or something like that

[wheat sail]

they should work forever

[placid ether]

Yeah but things change man, they have been working on SS for way longer than they anticipated

[gritty lotus]

They're certainly going to working on SS forever

[placid ether]

William has one or multiple sons IIRC

[hard meadow]

Yeah but that doesnt mean that for 9 hours everyday theyre grinding silksong

[coarse leaf]

do you know what a job is, thats how that works

[hard meadow]

I have a job and i dont work on one project without brakes

[coarse leaf]

that is how game development works

[craggy cave]

Today it tastes like snow

[coarse leaf]

theyre developing one game, so they work on that one game every time they go to work, because what else are they doing

[craggy cave]

Side projects?

[hard meadow]

If that were true i dont think they would have that copyright for the fox thing

[coarse leaf]

why not, a copyright doesnt mean anything is in actual active development

[hard meadow]

Burnout is a thing and breaks are needed, people need to step back to go in with a fresh mind again

[hard meadow]

Never said active development, but that ideas are being thrown about other games

[coarse leaf]

btw is this actually TC or are we still falling for the bait

[coarse leaf]

fair

[hard meadow]

Bait

[coarse leaf]

why do we even still have slowmode the chat is dead btw

[fossil ravine]

It's a random Reddit user.

[coarse leaf]

incredible

[hard meadow]

But honestly it was fun, felt like a community again

[lofty thistle]

No.

[cold maple]

there is no way that comment wasn’t a message from TC in some form

[hard meadow]

[cold maple]

i’m a believer!

[hard meadow]

I have some snake oil i could sell you

[cold maple]

spare me

[lofty thistle]

wait can somebody fill me in on what happened?? Why is there a slow mode?

[cold maple]

positivity!

i’m a believer!

[hard meadow]

Some fella started a countdown on his reddit banner and the subreddit started to speculate that he is associated with team cherry

[coarse leaf]

man you gotta check out these magic stones i got, gonna make you a good sale on em aswell trust me brother

[hard meadow]

To be fair rocks are pretty cool

[cold maple]

why is it everytime i’m here someone is being an ass

[digital portal]

i love rocks

[cold maple]

i’m just being positive! i’m a believer!

[coarse leaf]

oh come on dawg that one was a joke

[formal grove]

Ok

[lofty thistle]

Oh E1331 the troll

[hard meadow]

You have a low bar for "ass"

[cold maple]

NOW IM A BELIEVERRR

i believe i believe i believe i believe

[lofty thistle]

What started the slow mode though?

[coarse leaf]

and if we decide to run away screaming from logical thinking you gotta just yknow, expect it

[lofty thistle]

Another fool lost to the silk sanity

[loud cairn]

im going fucking insane

[digital portal]

real asf

[hard meadow]

Uhh today was the end of the countdown and he texted something and i guess people went nuts? Idk i was asleep

[cold maple]

i forget silksong exists until i see something, and when i do, i board the hype train cuz why not, then i forget about it again

[loud cairn]

its not real silk isnt song silksong isnt real e1331 is a group hallucination

[lofty thistle]

If none of the Youtubers, I’m subscribed to made a video on it. It wasn’t important.

[cold maple]

it just happened

[coarse leaf]

you tryna tell me primacon hasnt made 4 yet

[cold maple]

probably in the middle of the night for some

[loud cairn]

moistcritikal talked about the cake situation

[coarse leaf]

you can get like 3 and a couple youtube shorts out of this shit atleast come on now

[hard meadow]

Fair, i browse reddit at work so i just saw the aftermath

[cold maple]

so u guys think E whatever came up with that entire message himself

[coarse leaf]

yes

i could get chatgpt to come up with that entire message itself

[cold maple]

true

[hard meadow]

AI is stinky

[cold maple]

but that’s a boring take, it’s more fun to ride the hype train

[loud cairn]

we should sacrifice e1331

[cold maple]

i believe i believe i believe i believe

[lofty thistle]

How much cope do you have to be on to believe a well-known silk song that shit poster?

[hard meadow]

I think we already did the voice actor dude

[cold maple]

that was a dark joke

[loud cairn]

dang,,,,,,,

[cold maple]

a fun amount

[lofty thistle]

You guys can sacrifice me after February 28

[loud cairn]

milksong

[cold maple]

who cares

[hard meadow]

Ximra i beg you to have some sense of reality, that also was a shitposter

[cold maple]

i don’t care when silksong releases, if i see some hype i’m just boarding the hype train cuz it’s fun

i forget about it after the wave is over

now i’m a believerrrr

[lofty thistle]

If you have an easy time getting off the train, then go for it, but others get trampled in the crowds

[formal grove]

I fkiing care when silksong releases lmao

ain't nobody wants it to release in 20 years

[digital portal]

i just hope it releases when im on break </3

[lofty thistle]

okay yes but imagine how much content the game would have if it released in 2045

[digital portal]

i def get the frustration but in someway i find the waiting kinda fun

keeps me going ykyk

[cold maple]

i like when the community copes insanely

it is hilarious

[lofty thistle]

As a person who has endured the wait of other games announced way too soon I’m used to this kind of wait and it’s definitely fun sometimes

[cold maple]

it’s fun to join even if i’m not as genuinely invested

[hard meadow]

The cope and hype trains are fun and all but thats all it is, mindless fun

[cold maple]

what’s wrong with that

[digital portal]

I think the last (and first lol) time i ever really waited for a game like this was tears of the kingdom ngl. And even then this feels way more like. Important i guess

[cold maple]

this is what keeps the community alive real or not

[unborn dome]

half life 3

[digital portal]

Silksong release will be a core memory for me atp

[lofty thistle]

That’s not real lol

[cold maple]

this era will inevitably be a distant memory so imma join in on the silksanity while it lasts

[hard meadow]

Nothing is wring with that, but some start to harass

[cold maple]

i can say i was here for the insanity

and laugh at the times

[lofty thistle]

I’m 13 and this is deep core

[digital portal]

Yeah ngl im here for that because it's quite fun in like a silly way

[cold maple]

eventually the game is gonna come out and ofc everyone is gonna talk about the game

[unborn dome]

crazy that you believe that
you have clearly not been keeping track of valve news these past 18 years

[cold maple]

and then we’re gonna be like “yoo remember this” and laugh

everyone will move on

[lofty thistle]

I was not here for the insanity, or the laughs. I was here.

[digital portal]

I do love watching the hollow knight reddit and seeing glimpses of silksong madness through it sometimes

[lofty thistle]

The cope is strong with this one.

[cold maple]

i could logically break down why that comment is fake or analyze it from a realistic standpoint, but fuck that

i’mmm a believerrrrr

[unborn dome]

https://girlcockx.com/mikeshapiroland/status/1874213952680607922?s=46

[digital portal]

Speaking of half life, i only learnt today that the voice of Glados from portal is in half life AND pacific rim?? What??

[lofty thistle]

Talk to me when you have an official trailer.

[cold maple]

WE were here brother

[unborn dome]

she voices the combine overwatch announcer

[cold maple]

it’s like the mr krabs campfire meme with anyone who plays silksong after it releases

[unborn dome]

oh fuck, I forgot to do the embed thing

[digital portal]

I haven't played half life yet 😭 (i own them) but yeah i saw that, pretty crazy how well known she is

[cold maple]

or the malcom in the middle clip

[digital portal]

I just want to be the one to msg my friends at 2am about silksong release date if you get me? Like i must remain vigilant... For them

[unborn dome]

portal is in the half life universe

[lofty thistle]

The difference between you and me is, I have nothing left to get excited for other than playing the game itself. And so honestly, I’m content as is.

[digital portal]

IT IS???
I feel so silly omg, ty for the info

[cold maple]

that’s nice, me personally imma get in on that silksanity

[unborn dome]

yeah, black mesa research facility is mentioned in portal and the ship from the empty dry dock in portal 2 is going to be a major part of half life 3

[viscid lodge]

TOMORROW FOR SURE ‼️

[cold maple]

it only lasts for like a day though then i forget about silksong

[digital portal]

Oh damn :0 i only ever finished the first game, and then played through some of portal 2. Maybe i need to sit down and play through all of this soon

[lofty thistle]

I think in the past, I was quite like you. But you only have to wait until February 28.

[cold maple]

what’s february 28

[viscid lodge]

He only has to wait until tomorrow

[viscid lodge]

February 27th ends

[digital portal]

Also this may be a dumb question, but I saw on the reddit like sometimes TC talks in discord, is that this discord?

[viscid lodge]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

that is this discord yes

[digital portal]

My friends birthday :D

Awesome thank you 🫶🫶

[cold maple]

happy early birthday friend of elysium

[coarse leaf]

and the developers themselves havent for quite a long time, its only Leth as their PR manager from time to time at this point

[lofty thistle]

hehahgha you’re funny, so close to the anniversary, but they’re going to release it tomorrow surely.

[digital portal]

Ohhh i see, yeah that makes sense.
And tyty ximra ill pass it on vdjdjfjfm

[viscid lodge]

Yeah, like the announcement on the 28th/14th ain't gonna be a release window around Switch 2 release bruh

[open narwhal]

[digital portal]

I kinda want a switch two but i love my silly switch oled case :( it has moons and space stuff on it

[open narwhal]

why 10 s

[lofty thistle]

Fret not all shall make sense in time.

[cold maple]

the silksong! the silksong is real!

[lofty thistle]

Holy shit you’re exactly like how I was. I made that exact joke like two years ago.

[cold maple]

that’s funny

so ur like a jaded future me is that it

[formal karma]

No- not jaded

[cold maple]

although i played HK quite some time ago, i’ve just never been as invested in silksong’s release like that

[lofty thistle]

Just content future you.

relaxed if you will.

[cold maple]

we’re the same then

i just go along with stuff for fun a bit more, but i don’t take it serious

it’s just entertaining to be part of it

[lofty thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-cat-staring-i-am-you-im-you-gif-26272604

[loud cairn]

condolences

[lofty thistle]

I will never emotionally recover.

[loud cairn]

i know.

[cold maple]

none of my favorite games are getting sequels anytime soon

that’s how it be 😔 oh besides the witcher

[lofty thistle]

have you ever heard of this little game known as rain world?

[fluid matrix]

skong when

[cold maple]

i have but i haven’t seen a single thing about it

[lofty thistle]

The game is tough, complicated, confusing, but rewarding in so many ways.

[valid sable]

Rain World is amazing, except Hunter mode

[tall cargo]

embed fixing link 🤯

[lofty thistle]

If you want, the best experience, a blind play through could be really fun. Or could also be one of the most infuriating things ever.

[cold maple]

i always maintain whenever i’m in here, i’m giving over silksong in a heartbeat for Bloodborne 2, no hesitation

u wanna see real pain, look at that community

it’s the skeleton in the underwater chair meme

is rain world on playstation, that’s all i have

[median kernel]

im taking on my clown makeup after today's DSN

[lofty thistle]

Should be, it also has a really great DLC.

[lofty thistle]

I’m not putting on any makeup because I’m not expecting anything tomorrow.

[cold maple]

any bloodborne fans

[lofty thistle]

I should really play that game.

[valid sable]

I love Bloodborne

Bloodborne is like tied with Elden Ring for me, but I have a hard time playing Bloodborne now because I hate using controller so much

[cold maple]

my favorite game of all time, i think it’s perfect

many people agree

[cold maple]

elden is good but doesn’t come close to BB for me

[sleek cloud]

It has its flaws

[lofty thistle]

https://youtu.be/Bsb0Bc7pt-E?si=r0y37sy0mu13j65_

[cold maple]

i would trade a kidney for bloodborne 2, i only need 1

[valid sable]

BB is by far the best to me with weapon uniqueness and moveset variety. Elden Ring kinda disappointed me in that aspect(aside from the DLC)

[sleek cloud]

Ive also never heard anyone else jn my life say its perfect

[cold maple]

i think it’s flawless

[cold maple]

i have

[valid sable]

Bloodborne flaw: Dropping below 30fps 70% of the time (At least on a regular ps4)

[wheat sail]

Just have a pc

[sleek cloud]

Ps5 runs it smooth 60

[valid sable]

No it don't

[sleek cloud]

Bloodborne pc true

[cold maple]

story music art direction lore character design

10/10, perfection

[wheat sail]

"next gen" consoles not even getting 60 fps

Except for the Select games!

[sleek cloud]

Blpodborne music is mid, decent art and lore

[tender jolt]

we got a pc master racist in the chat

[cerulean sable]

should silksong have a scene like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlmRId2FVQ

[sleek cloud]

Idk my ps5 dodnt drop on anything, not even elden dlc

[valid sable]

I blame raytracing.

[paper karma]

SKONG COULD BE IN THE NEXT DAILY SILKSONG NEWS

REMEMBER E1331 IS TAKING IT OVER ACCORDING TO HIS "1" BANNER

[cold maple]

that’s just a matter of ur personal taste

but for what it is, it’s masterful

[tender jolt]

the fact that Leth himself had to descend upon us like an angel and deconfirm E1331 personally is peak

[sleek cloud]

No game is perfect, everything has a flaw

[cold maple]

Bloodborne does have a flaw

[tender jolt]

except hollow knight rrrraahhù

[bleak jackal]

hello trashbinners

[valid sable]

ur perfect

[tall cargo]

ok what about like... minecraft

[wheat sail]

No games have flaws

[cold maple]

it’s that it fucking doesn’t have a sequel

[sleek cloud]

Hpllow knight has flaws

[cold maple]

other than that, it’s perfect

[sleek cloud]

Its called elder hu

[valid sable]

Where my Elder Hu fans at

[bleak jackal]

most structured fight in the game

[sleek cloud]

And marmu

[valid sable]

Marmu is great

[bleak jackal]

radiant p5 markoth

[cold maple]

where else are u gonna fight a dead lovecraft baby wielding its weaponized placenta?

[tender jolt]

imho the healing system in bloodborne is flawed
a beginner can just ignore the rally system because they get so many heals, and then end up having to farm for them
they encourage bad habits

[sleek cloud]

Good fight

[cold maple]

truly a 1 of 1

[dire wing]

i hate farming blood vials

[tender jolt]

whereas in dark souls they make sure you have very few heals in the beginning, so you're forced to get good to progress, but when you reach a boss you can retry as long as you need until you learn

[cold maple]

i think that’s too much of a skill climb to not, they probably bet on the safer side and i don’t blame them

[formal marsh]

isnt bloodborne locked to 30 fps

[dire wing]

yup

[cold maple]

u learn it eventually

my lovely chikage

[bleak jackal]

cause bloodborne is also locked on ps4

[valid sable]

and very often drops below that

[cold maple]

i never found it bad on ps5

[sleek cloud]

GG

Found the flaw guys

[cold maple]

pc emulator just did a 60 fps

[sleek cloud]

Gg pirating

[tender jolt]

yeah but that's a flaw in bloodborne's design
you're supposed to be aggressive but the healing system traps you into a false sense of security

[bleak jackal]

hollow knight is flawed, but still, great game

[cold maple]

it would be disingenuous to say it doesn’t teach u to be aggressive, Father G beats the passiveness out of you

[tender jolt]

it does teach you to be aggressive in everything except the healing system (specifically vials)

that's why I say it's a flaw

[cold maple]

rally and aggressive goes hand in hand

[cerulean sable]

you can argue every game has flaws but it all boils down to personal taste whether those flaws are minor inconsequential things (or even what you love about the game) or out right game breakers

[sleek cloud]

I would consider hollow knight one of my favorite games of all time but i can openly admit it has it flaws, and thats really what you expect when its team cherries first REAL game

[tender jolt]

that's why i specified vials
there should be less vials to make rally more dominant especially in the early game

[cold maple]

i think you’re saying that from the view of a very good gamer

[bleak jackal]

vials are a part of the game, so everyone doesnt have to be the god gamer to finish the game

[cold maple]

and to this day this is their only time with that kinda combat, i think they decided to go on the safer side and allow plenty of heals in the beginning

[sleek cloud]

I feel like bloodborne is like the middle of difficulty in fromsoft games

[bleak jackal]

fromsoft games are not that hard

[sleek cloud]

Yeah

[bleak jackal]

lies of p is harder cause unfair stuff goes brrrr

[valid sable]

idk what unfair stuff is in Lies of P

[cold maple]

depends on how you view hard

[valid sable]

sounds like skill issu

[tender jolt]

no, I say that from the view of a very average gamer
having so many heals, that refill throughout the level, builds bad habits that make the game harder in the long term
simultaneously, if you aren't already good at the game from the start, you are punished a lot, because after a certain amount of attempts (edit: at a boss) you're gonna have to farm for more vials
so in general blood vials are anti-beginner and actively hostile towards you learning the game
probably they assumed everyone would come from dark souls already

[cold maple]

i think sekiro and elden are the hardest but i think sekiro is hard but fair, and elden is not

[cold maple]

yeah but by the time u hit midgame those habits don’t exist

i say by the end of cathedral ward

[sleek cloud]

Elden isnt that hard

Isnt it widely considered the easiest fromsoft

[cold maple]

not if u don’t use summons

[bleak jackal]

ds2 is the hardest game cause nobody wants to finish the game

[sleek cloud]

Ik a lot of ppl who didnt and still found it not that hard, the only time i think my friends or me struggled with elden was dlc final boss

[tender jolt]

the fact that you can go over those bad habits doesn't mean it's not a flaw

• having to farm for more vials is just mean towards slower learners

[cold maple]

i think ur confusing design flaw with being conservative in combat mechanics pluto

a radically different combat system, ofc they’re gonna bless vials in the first area

and Father G is literally the skill check that fixes ur habits

[tender jolt]

and what I'm saying is that just because it sorta works out in the end doesn't mean it's flawless

[valid sable]

Beginners having to grind for vials in general is a design flaw. It would straight up be better if it was like DS1 starting with 5 and allowing you to upgrade for more later

[tender jolt]

do you seriously believe blood vials are the best healing item mechanic bloodborne could have?

because that's what you're implying when you say it's flawless

[sleek cloud]

Dont most soulsbornes work that eay

[cold maple]

i don’t think elden bosses are designed that well by way of artificial difficulty, a lot of bosses aren’t bad but quite a few are terrible

[valid sable]

ya

[tender jolt]

all except Demon's Souls and Bloodborne which have a more traditional approach to consumables

[sleek cloud]

By making them consumable 🤯

[cold maple]

flawless to me i’ve made sure to say

[tender jolt]

no you didn't

[cold maple]

yes i did

[main turret]

I love farming for blood vials

[cold maple]

i always had a buncha vials in storage so it wasn’t something i got annoyed about, plus lore for the vials made sense to me

[tender jolt]

we cold argue on the semantics of that, but even still, you did straight up say "it's perfect" at some point

[valid sable]

At least farming for Blood vials lets you get exp for leveling, or buying more blood vials

[sleek cloud]

Im seeing a really common flaw about bloodborne, which i found to be a flaw too

[cold maple]

there is no arguing semantics i’m telling u my intent of my statements

and that i’ve seen others have agreed with it

but i’m not gonna be mad if u disagree

[sleek cloud]

I mean dont grt me wrong i think bloodborne is pretty good

But there are always going to be flaws in a game i feel like

[coarse leaf]

I do agree with the consumable criticism, its kinda like the.. i dont know what theyre called things you consume to use your prosthetics in sekiro, absolutely not a fan of restricting it permanently

[cold maple]

from a lore standpoint it makes complete sense to pick em up from everyone else

[coarse leaf]

ok but i dont care about the lore i dont think its fun

[cold maple]

so i never saw a problem with it, especially when i got to the point where i got nice weapons and gems and runes etc

[sleek cloud]

Im starting to see that the consumables are a really popular criticism about bloodborne

[cold maple]

and i had fun killing everything

[coarse leaf]

ds2 actually did this decently iirc, you had healing consumables and your normal estus

[cold maple]

well it’s the only one that doesn’t have a set one, but it goes up to 600 in storage

[coarse leaf]

never thought id be praising ds2 what the fuck

[cold maple]

and u can have 20-23 or something on standby

[sleek cloud]

I never played ds2 is it really as bad as people say

[cold maple]

yes

[coarse leaf]

idk, i just didnt really have fun with it

[tender jolt]

there's an elevator going up into a completely different biome

from an open sky area

[sleek cloud]

I keep hearing people talk about iframes being a stat

[cold maple]

Bloodborne
DS3
Sekiro
Elden
DS1
DS2

is my ranking

[coarse leaf]

i just personally see it only taking away from the game by forcing you to farm for them if you really struggle on something instead of adding anything

[tender jolt]

Similar for me except I swap DS1 and DS3

[cold maple]

u can buy a fuckton up to 600

and they’re cheap

[coarse leaf]

which is resources i need to first get and then spend yes

[tender jolt]

Divided by 20 that's like 30 attempts at a boss with a full stack? I think
Which is not much sometimes

Although this is assuming you use all on each attempt which is unlikely

[coarse leaf]

sekiro lower then ds3 is criminal but otherwise i agree( ignoring bloodborne i do not have played enough of it to give a full opinion )

[jade canopy]

I’ll admit I’ve always had enough… emblems ? In sekiro

[cold maple]

that’s true, i usually level up or buy something and then use the remainder to get more vials and bullets

[tender jolt]

yeah that's the strat

[cold maple]

and then from killing the npcs around

[jade canopy]

But I’m not entirely sure where those came from

[cold maple]

i never ran out

[jade canopy]

Like I just woke up one day and saw I had like 500

[sleek cloud]

weapon durability is a mood

[cold maple]

the screeching decayed gentleman in front of ludwig is nice enough to have 5 each time u spawn

[coarse leaf]

yeah running out of emblems isnt a big problem, but like, if you do, it is so annoying to get them back

and just adds literally nothing

like you get 0 benefit from having that be a limited resource you need to farm for

[jade canopy]

Yeah
It’s just scaring you about death for no reason

[cold maple]

i love DS3, are u sure that’s not the nostalgia glasses of DS1 😏

[coarse leaf]

wrong reply im assuming

the ds1 fans are just coping

[cold maple]

oh who said DS1

[tender jolt]

I played DS3 before DS1

[cold maple]

holy shit

[jade canopy]

It’s like all those old games in which stuff like weapon ammo was not given back after death (thinking about ratchet and clank) and they would just put an ammo vendor right before the boss
And so you would slowly lower your money hoping to not run out

Just give ammo back on death…

[sleek cloud]

i havent got far through sekiro cause i have 20 fps when playing it but what ive played the game is honestly pretty fun

[coarse leaf]

miyazaki forgot how to make a good game after O&S iirc( ignoring dlc i didnt play it )

[jade canopy]

Some of the later areas are cool

[coarse leaf]

are they

[sleek cloud]

doesnt ds3 have like 14 dlcs

[coarse leaf]

i just had no fun in like, any of them

[cold maple]

Gael, Friede, Twin princes, Nameless King, SoC, Midir, abyss watchers, pontiff, dancer

[jade canopy]

Visually at least

[coarse leaf]

ok ill give you visually

[jade canopy]

Also dying and getting send to jail is fun

[cold maple]

music 10/10, lore and themes hit, come on guys

[coarse leaf]

2

[cold maple]

it’s the ending of the era

[jade canopy]

Finding patches and a maiden down in the catacombs is fun

[sleek cloud]

i feel like fromsoft games generally dont have peak music

[cold maple]

there is no boss in sekiro or ds1 that is matching Gael

[coarse leaf]

isshin

[jade canopy]

Harder to justify the other two besides darkwraith being cool looking

[cold maple]

blasphemy

[tender jolt]

I just feel like DS3 is too combat-heavy compared to 1
As if Fromsoftware noticed their game was famous for its combat and leaned more heavily into that

[coarse leaf]

isshin doesnt just match, isshin is better

[cold maple]

more blasphemy

[coarse leaf]

i think im writing that name wrong

[cold maple]

Isshin ex machina?

[sleek cloud]

ive seen that fight it looks pretty cool

[jade canopy]

Yes
Most time they just… sound like heavy noises
Very few are memorable or have idk… a melody ??? You can’t hum 95% of souls tracks

[tender jolt]

Does Gael pull out a glock mid-fight? Didn't think so /j

[sleek cloud]

fromsoft is like pretty mid with music

[coarse leaf]

isshin is the best boss from software has ever made and i will not accept anything else iirc

[cold maple]

no way that beats the story and fight of Gael

[cold maple]

Glock Isshin is top tier

[sleek cloud]

but i mean people dont play fromsoft games for the music, so

[cold maple]

i won’t pretend like Isshin isn’t probably their best mechanically designed boss ever

[jade canopy]

Measure be like

[cold maple]

but Gael?!

[jade canopy]

Isshin and Gael aren’t even my favorite boss for both of those games

[coarse leaf]

gael is the peak of ds3 i'll give you that

[jade canopy]

I prefer geni and Midir

[cold maple]

i think Gael is the peak of dark souls series

[coarse leaf]

midir is crazy

[jade canopy]

Midir is peak

[cold maple]

lore, story, music, themes, the finality

[jade canopy]

I may even say peam

[coarse leaf]

I agree, but i have not done every boss in the dark souls series

[young saffron]

Midir????

[cold maple]

Midir?! u psycho

[young saffron]

everything is good but the actual fight is 💀

[sleek cloud]

i feel like fromsoft can definitely have good bosses and lore and story

[coarse leaf]

also ER makes me sad boss wise, i still cant tell if i like the fights or if theyre shit

[tender jolt]

Some of them are great (Ludwig, Morgott, Gundyr for example) but most of them are unremarkable
Especially compared to other video game songs like:

• Sightless Shepherd (Hades 2)
• Olympus Aflame (also Hades 2)
• Colgera (Zelda)
• Molduga (also Zelda)
• and most of what you hear in Darkest Dungeon 2

[jade canopy]

The blue/purple dragon ? Yeah that fight rocks

[sleek cloud]

colgera theme is such a vibe

[jade canopy]

The boss is ass but

[coarse leaf]

Coral Crown is better in my opinion

[jade canopy]

The music is peak

[sleek cloud]

they're not bad for the most part, theres some good ones but some really mid ones

[coarse leaf]

my first midir fight was on a SL1 run so i dont have the very best unbiased opinion on it lmao

[formal karma]

For day 52 of posting cardinals until silksong releases- check out this sleepy boi

[cold maple]

ur insane:
Ludwig, Lady Maria, Laurence, Gehrman, Cleric Beast, Abyss Watchers, SoC, Gael, Friede, Twin princes, Midir, Deacons of the deep, Emma the Gentle blade, Divine Dragon, Sir Alonne, Gwyn, DS3 main theme,m

it goes on and on

all of these could be performed at genuine classical halls, and some have been

[jade canopy]

I think we’ve killed and buried twice over the discussion about Elden ring bosses with Yato but yeah

Idk about Elden ring bosses
I really don’t

[coarse leaf]

that is true

im just so conflicted on them

[sleek cloud]

fromsoft dont really compare in music to most things like zelda, or 99% of indie games

[coarse leaf]

besides mohg, that ones peak idc

[sleek cloud]

mohg

[tender jolt]

Btw 90% of Dark Souls 3 glazing I hear is Gael
No one out here saying "Yo Cathedral of the Deep was PEAK" or shit like that
I get the feeling that it has some excellent parts that make the rest worth it, as much of a slog as it is
But again that comes from a DS3 hater soooo

[young saffron]

who tf gonna say catheral was peak 😭 that was straight cheeks

[jade canopy]

Nah most of ds3 is good

[coarse leaf]

cathedral of the deep wasnt that bad

[young saffron]

^^

[jade canopy]

Not all bosses are a hit, but generally moving through area is good

[coarse leaf]

like the area is fun lol

[cold maple]

Malenia, Godskin apostles, Messmer, Putrescent Knight, Divine beast, Mohg, Lichdragon, Beast Clergyman, Bayle the dread, Radahn, Lord of Frenzied flame

God serpent

[young saffron]

just off the top of my head
Ludex
champion gundy
dancer
borreal valley
dragon armor
soul of cinder

[sleek cloud]

gg exclusively elden ring things

[coarse leaf]

in fact the area is far better then fucking farron and its bullshit swamp to get to watchers

[cold maple]

Gael is just that peak, but i think DS3 has the best boss lineup in the entire fromsoft

[sleek cloud]

im not saying fromsoft doesnt haev some good music, its just other big franchises / indie games have better music

[jade canopy]

The end of the dlc is shit, you run through boss sized enemies
You have the swamp which I find ok, the rooftop of the cathedral are bad, the dungeon isn’t great
Everything else is great

[coarse leaf]

i agree, ds3 has peak after peak regarding bosses

[jade canopy]

A few miss, but mostly peak

[coarse leaf]

youve got some low points here and there im not going to say you dont ofcourse

[jade canopy]

Unlike ds1 and 2 which have a few peak bosses and…
The rest…

[tender jolt]

The good ones are incredible, but I'd say there's a solid 70% of them that are simply unremarkable

[coarse leaf]

aint no one sitting there going "hell yeah, finally i can fight the giant tree with the balls again"

[cold maple]

HAHAHAHA

[sleek cloud]

⁉️

[coarse leaf]

what the fuck is it called, cursed rotten greatwood or smth

[jade canopy]

You crazy, ball tree is peak

[coarse leaf]

aint no way you mean that

[tender jolt]

idk it wasn't bad

[jade canopy]

It’s the great deku tree fight we’ve all been waiting for

[tender jolt]

bosses are DS3's strong suit they're all good

[coarse leaf]

it was that bad wdym lmao

[floral delta]

ZELDA

[cold maple]

agree to disagree, i think fromsoft has best music in gaming, every song tells the story of the characters so well, plus i personally love classical music so i’m partial

[cold maple]

followed by Nier

for me personally

[sleek cloud]

i think im just biased for zelda when discussing fromsoft tbf, its my favourite franchise of all time

[tender jolt]

hmm, perhaps I should listen to them more
might be that during the fight they are all covered by sound effects

[cold maple]

Zelda has some banger tracks though, i love midna’s lament

[misty reef]

today is the day for chaos I think

[sleek cloud]

midnas lament from my favourite zelda game of all time no way

[jade canopy]

I find DS music unremarkable
I don’t remember any, and listening to them outside fights doesn’t click
They do their job in fights, but they really lack melody and motif, which may be for the better, after all the music needs to serve gameplay and not be listened to outside it

[coarse leaf]

the hitboxes are atrocious, im not mentioning the camera, what the fuck is up with the little baby hand, all the attacks are more annoying then anything else, the one with the balls falling down is straight up just "you arent allowed to play the game anymore now until the AOE is gone, have fun"

[tender jolt]

I think fromsoft stuff is generally higher quality though
Zelda has had some serious misses whereas all fromsoftware games so far have been banger after banger
well, we'll see Nightreign

[formal karma]

I can't wait until April 3rd and hypers can be 'quiet' again

[misty reef]

yesss