sk-discussion

[stark estuary]

I don’t care whether or not you think it’s justified if you wanna ignore the facts that’s a personal choice

[rocky flicker]

That’s a good question actually hornet was born there but seems to be intelligent when she leaves

[bright elm]

How to pirate Silksong i wanna play but cant afford help

[young saffron]

Hornet is half higher being

[muted abyss]

Im not denying there is other places of sanctity in the world, I wonder how they approach it

[stark estuary]

Google “Silksong free online download” and click the first link that pops up

[drowsy bison]

Give me your ssn

[bright elm]

Will do ty!

[young saffron]

Wait don't take me seriously guys I'm baiting

[shell yacht]

You can't be a halfgod by HK logic it's a status checkbox

[stark estuary]

She’s half-Wyrm, half-HB isn’t a thing

[bright elm]

[stark estuary]

You can call her a demigod that’s not inaccurate

[rocky flicker]

So how is she still intelligent when she leaves hallownest

[stark estuary]

Because she’s not beacon dependent like a lot of things

[rocky flicker]

Is that to do with her heritage or is she just chill like that

[stark estuary]

A lot of things aren’t beacon dependent as mentioned but in her case it’s probably due to her heritage yes

Spiders and Wyrms are both naturally sapient creatures

[rocky flicker]

Is quirrel originally from hallownest? He dips for a bit and stays sane

[muted abyss]

Mantis' aswell I believe

[woeful matrix]

yap yap yap lore lore lore

[stark estuary]

Quirrel is a special case

[cloud yew]

he loses his memory

[final flare]

According to a survey done by YouGov, 21% of people who pirate do so because "I could/would be willing to pay, but pirating is an easier and more convenient way to get new content, rather than going through official channels". That is a very small number of people who are pirating when they could be paying a fair price

And unsurprisingly the biggest reason people pirate at 34% is "The content I want is not available through any official physical or digital stores in my market"

[stark estuary]

What the fuck is YouGov

[shell yacht]

Insert jokers line about time being a circle

[pulsar fog]

1. I think the very small is exaggerated, but even if it is a small number, those people are still scummy. I'm not asking for the eradication of piracy, just saying it isn't justifiable for middle-class and above people living in a country with a high-valued currency to not pay for their art.
2. You're right about enshitification and overinflation, but the answer to that is not buying those things, not pirating them
3. You don't need to be a millionaire to pay for a $70 dollar game, but also, just don't play it. There's plenty of great games for reasonable prices

[cloud yew]

i think it’s just a huge plot hole

[rocky flicker]

Yes but stays sentient, I can’t remember where it’s from but there’s a comic where he comments on other beings being “beast like”

[muted abyss]

"No blazing kin. Only one light shall shine against the dark.
The Wyrm becomes beacon, minds expanded, to yield, to devote.
Eternity in promise and charge in progeny cursed."
also from the game

[rocky flicker]

Hey I like my hornet intelligence question

[marsh ibex]

he has a magic mask that is literally extending his lifespan artificially

[stark estuary]

Good job

[rocky flicker]

Ohh yeah forgot about that thing

[pulsar fog]

1/5th is a big amount lol

[pliant jackal]

I just got confirmation on my order of rtx5090, can't wait to utilize it fully by playing Silksong.

[final flare]

Not really when you consider how few people pirate

[muted abyss]

OSRS or nothing
Really put that thing to the test

[rocky flicker]

What does that prove

[woeful matrix]

low quality bait

[stark estuary]

Man this is boring it’s not fun for me when I debate people who know nothing about the topic in question

[rocky flicker]

Me when I’m a fish

[pliant jackal]

Oh you got it, I will OC it fully too.

[oblique musk]

Shit’s gonna be obsolete by the time silksong comes out hate to break it to you man

[stark estuary]

Maybe Joker was right maybe I did fall off

[opaque sigil]

formulating your stance around an edge case of an edge case is sure something

[stark estuary]

I should retire from baiting and surrender my throne to Kirbstar

[muted abyss]

Not necesasrily prove but just further helps the theory that the Pale King/Wyrm/Higher being brought the bugs of Hollow Nest to a higher level of intelligence
"The Wyrm becomes beacon, minds expanded, to yield, to devote."

[rocky flicker]

Well yeah that’s a given that’s not arguable

[stark estuary]

Also WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUGOV

[rocky flicker]

The first link that came up when they looked up their argument

[final flare]

If media was more accessible (like not being region locked, for example there is no legal way to stream doctor who in northern ireland) and if it was a fairer price, that would decrease piracy by a huge margin.

[pulsar fog]

ig, but I'm only talking abt those people, either way look at my earlier message, I had an actually good argument there

[oblique musk]

Company that conducts a bunch of surveys

[stark estuary]

No you didn’t

[rocky flicker]

Imagine how lame you’d have to be to work there

[frigid basin]

what's the argument

[pulsar fog]

this one

[stark estuary]

Oh fuck that’s my cue to leave

[final flare]

Is that not exactly what the opposite side of the argument is? "Piracy is wrong when you only pirate if you can already afford to pay a fair price for something"?

[opaque sigil]

yeah

[rocky flicker]

Ignore the piracy stuff it’s boring, how do you reckon hornet keeps her intelligence when she leaves hallownest

[oblique musk]

Considering I’m minoring in Data Science, it is not an impossibility.

[pulsar fog]

yes

[final flare]

And I said I agreed? It's wrong to pirate if the thing you are pirating is a fair price, and you have the money to comfortably afford it

[frigid basin]

she keeps it because she has inherent intelligence sufficient to give her a sapient mind

[stark estuary]

It’s not wrong then either

[oblique musk]

Her dad is the reason bugs there are intelligent to begin with. It stands to reason she would have innate intelligence as his daughter.

[rocky flicker]

From the pale king u reckon?

[stark estuary]

Being able to afford it doesn’t mean you’re going to buy it and whether or not it’s a fair price is subjective

People can do what they want with their money as long as it doesn’t harm anyone

[pulsar fog]

I mean you did say the people who can afford it are millionaires, and also I talk abt how if something isn't at a fair price, then don't buy it.

[rocky flicker]

Actually yeah both the pale king and the deepnest guys had inherent sentience

Does the knight have sentience and did it lose it when travelling?

[opaque sigil]

on just a moral level you could easily argue all art should be a public good

[pulsar fog]

I think all the wastes stuff is just PK propaganda

[opaque sigil]

it really isn't

[woeful matrix]

33 dollar as tk

[cloud yew]

i mean if the reason was that there are mindless bugs and sapient bugs which bugs do we think are mindless? most things seem to be beetles but we see beetles coming from outside of hallownest on purpose

[pulsar fog]

yeah but we aren't there yet. As long as we're under corporatism we gotta pay artists ourselves

[stark estuary]

That doesn’t make it a moral obligation

[rocky flicker]

I think even when mindless they’re drawn to the higher beings

[muted abyss]

I think minus the mentioned alway sapient breeds, the rest are mindless
Basically all non Spiders, Mantis, wasps

[final flare]

That was just exaggeration to show an example of immoral piracy, a millionaire refusing to pay €10 for an indie game is lame as hell, but I was agreeing with you.

As for the second point I just disagree. Someone shouldn't be excluded from experiencing art just cus they don't have enough money to justify the spending

[muted abyss]

I think Moths were mindless and given thought by the radience but dont quote me on that one

[shell yacht]

No?

[cloud yew]

but there are beetles coming to hallownest because they’ve heard of things happening in hallownest through word of mouth i.e., the colosseum

[stark estuary]

That’s not immoral the millionaire may consider that an unfair price and not have paid for it anyway

[rocky flicker]

How else would stuff say they’re drawn to hallownest or is that just the sentient ones

[stark estuary]

Just because someone is a millionaire doesn’t mean they don’t care about the value of money anymore

[pulsar fog]

Ok, I'm mostly agreeing, but I find most of the AAA $70-80 dollar games to not be high-art in the first place, but that's fair

[fair sun]

That is true, "oh the price is immoral so i just wont experience it", this doesnt make sense

[opaque sigil]

it's immoral to be a millionaire

[shell yacht]

Wyrms specifically like to set up kingdoms and draw in bugs, has nothing to do with intelligence lvl

[stark estuary]

Yes but that is quite different

[rocky flicker]

Yeah so what was wrong about what I said, they’re drawn to the kingdoms mindless or not

[pulsar fog]

people deserve money for their work

[muted abyss]

Go play firewatch guys

[oblique musk]

It’s sentient enough to read signs and understand other bugs. I highly doubt it lost that when it ventured into the wilds, being the offspring of the pale king and all.

[shell yacht]

You said higher beings, it's not a trait all gods share

[jade canopy]

Ss discussion talking about piracy instead of silksong crackpot theories ??

[rocky flicker]

Wait what are gods

[fair sun]

Its better for our minds to develop

[final flare]

I mean what qualifies "high-art" is entirely subjective, and I never said "high-art", just "art". If someone can't afford the €70 to pay for tears of the kingdom, there's nothing wrong with them pirating it imo

[stark estuary]

Sure but nobody is obligated to give people money when they’re not taking anything from them

[rocky flicker]

There’s like 7 tiers of big dude and I can’t keep up with them

[pulsar fog]

The millionare sneaks into a concert or other event because they didn't feel like paying the people who do it. That doesn't sound fair to me.

[oblique musk]

Anything up to and including Massive Moss Charger, if the Godseekers are to be believed.

[rocky flicker]

What’s the difference between gods and higher beings

[stark estuary]

That’s a false equivalence

[rocky flicker]

Ohhh wait yeah forgot about the godseekers

[pulsar fog]

high-art was the wrong word, but I think we're on the same page 🤝

[shell yacht]

PK/WL/Unn/NightmareHeart/The Knight after voidheart, these are the confirmed higher beings

[pulsar fog]

how so?

[stark estuary]

If you want to make it analogous the millionaire would watch a recording of the concert online instead of attending in person

[final flare]

While I agree with you about the millionaire, as I said before that's a different situation, you can't really compare sneaking into a concert with piracy

[shell yacht]

Oh and Radiance lol

[oblique musk]

No Radiance?

[stark estuary]

Read one message up

[shell yacht]

I'm tired

[rocky flicker]

So they’re drawn to higher beings not gods

[shell yacht]

No

Wyrrms specifically have pull

[rocky flicker]

The radiance doesn’t?

[shell yacht]

unn and radiance created their own races/followers

[pulsar fog]

not really, the millionaire is experiencing the art in its true form without paying in a live concert vs playing a game (we can assume infinite seating and its still true)

[rocky flicker]

Oh ok

[shell yacht]

Wl has no pull either

[oblique musk]

Hell yeah they do that’s how PK scored a hot tree babe

[muted abyss]

do we know if are all wyrms higher beings or just PK?

[heavy magnet]

WL could probably also make a lot of followers, but in a different way

[rocky flicker]

White lady has no lore

[cloud yew]

i don’t think we know

[rocky flicker]

Tree lady

[shell yacht]

They should be with the feats that they are all attributed with

[jade canopy]

Nothing wrong with piracy sounds like cope

It boils down in the end to whether or not you consider video games real possessions or not considering the non tangibility of the thing

But like

In terms of morality, I don’t see why pirating a AAA game, pirating a bad game, pirating an expensive or pirating an indie game is more or less moral

Saying stuff like "rich company don’t deserve" or whatever doesn’t make much sense
Unless you don’t consider video games as real things… which is an opinion you are entitled to

[pulsar fog]

OF

[coral prawn]

Hk lore? In my silksong disc? So far it has fallen😔

[shell yacht]

Future sight/Kaiju/setting up and being able to draw in kingdom sized populations

[rocky flicker]

Yeah my bad let’s get back to yelling at eachother like the piracy guys

[oblique musk]

I would guess they are all higher beings, seeing as Mr. Mushroom talks as if Wyrms creating massive kingdoms is commonplace behavior.

[rocky flicker]

Mr mushroom is a higher being confirmed

[heavy magnet]

yes

[leaden delta]

piracy!!!

[pulsar fog]

I hate mr. mushroom with a passion

[shell yacht]

He basically says so himself

[rocky flicker]

AHHH

[heavy magnet]

gonna come crashing into the Citadel at the end of Silksong

[leaden delta]

the previous book i read had piracy

[rocky flicker]

Final boss of silksong is Mr mushroom

[pulsar fog]

blackbeard

[leaden delta]

it also had lesbians it was awesome

[oblique musk]

Downloading cars!

[rocky flicker]

Absolute cinema

[final flare]

Sounds amazing

[stark estuary]

I mean it’s not really about whether or not they’re “real”, buying isn’t owning

It’s about whether or not the developer loses anything, that’s what differentiates piracy from theft

And yes there’s no difference between pirating a AAA game and an indie game morally speaking

[pulsar fog]

blackbush

[muted abyss]

Theory:
Imu is the pale king

[cloud yew]

i think they probably are all higher beings but i don’t think it’s explicitly stated anywhere that they ALL are there are just generalisations made

[opaque sigil]

I mean treating piracy as identical to theft of physical goods isn't really a matter of opinion that's just wrong

[pulsar fog]

@stark estuary

[stark estuary]

I’m not reading that essay

[rocky flicker]

We do have to remember there are some plot holes

[pulsar fog]

it is 1 line

[stark estuary]

Could you cut it down for me

[muted abyss]

depends on the moral framework and how you interpret the Harm Principal

[pulsar fog]

no

[stark estuary]

Then I’m not reading it

[oblique musk]

I mean, not much is really stated about Wyrms as a whole, other than that they make kingdoms, and have fewer legs than Bardoon.

[rocky flicker]

What’s bardoons deal he’s a funny big guy

[pulsar fog]

Ragebaiting detected, all opinions invalidated

[warped rock]

he lore dumps about wyrms

[rocky flicker]

My goat

[pulsar fog]

he's big and funny

[heavy magnet]

wyrm fan

[cloud yew]

yeah that’s what i’m talking about, the “wyrms pull bugs into their thrall” line and “with its like gone the world is smaller”

[rocky flicker]

Just an obese lore master

[oblique musk]

He’s gotta have something going on, seeing as he can recognize when he’s being dreamnailed.

[leaden delta]

this is becasue it is

[jade canopy]

There is sale loss due to piracy
If there wasn’t big company wouldn’t spend millions on denuvo and other shit that tanks their game performances
I know how the argument goes, I don’t think it is flawless

[rocky flicker]

He’s probably just really well educated

[leaden delta]

Tomes & Tea series

[final flare]

What's the book?

[heavy magnet]

midwife can do that too

[stark estuary]

First time?
Also it’s crazy how you believe the realization that someone is baiting somehow invalidates all of the points they made

[stark estuary]

Prove that there is a sale loss

[muted abyss]

Go watch boy and the heron instead bro

[opaque sigil]

they spend that money because denuvo has marketing campaigns that convince them piracy is a problem not necessarily because it actually is

[rocky flicker]

If I knew someone was reading my mind I’d probably try to think “stop reading my mind”

[leaden delta]

im usually a person that takes at least some time to go through books

[stark estuary]

I’ve seen it it’s alright

[pulsar fog]

you just refused to respond to what I said when I wrote less than you did. Going "ahaha, anyway" when you don't respond does invalidate your argument

[final flare]

Except they'd make more money if they just eliminated the conditions that cause piracy in the first place

[jade canopy]

Im actually not sure on whom the burden of proof falls in
Cuz the most basic assumption would be that people not paying for thing means less people buy thing

So is it on you ?

[leaden delta]

with like books of that length (each book is around 300 pages) ill take like idk shit three weeks it kinda depends on when i find time to read

[stark estuary]

I didn’t respond because this is getting boring

[cloud yew]

doesn’t someone somewhere in the game do this or something like it

[leaden delta]

i went through both currently published books in two weeks

[rocky flicker]

If there was no sale loss why would any company ever install anti piracy measures why would they care

[stark estuary]

You’re just gonna ignore it like you’ve ignored most of the shit I’ve said in the past half hour

[stark estuary]

What the fuck are you talking about

You made a claim, prove it

[oblique musk]

Midwife.

[rocky flicker]

Can someone talk to me more about hollow knight lore I don’t like the piracy talk I am uneducated on this matter

[final flare]

Because like you, they don't understand piracy. They think there is a sale loss, cus on a surface level it sounds like that's the case

[fair sun]

Pirate Software made heartbound 60% cheaper on Brazil, and brazil is a huge amount in sales for heartbound.

[pulsar fog]

maybe you should've said that if you felt that way

[oblique musk]

Chief there is a chat for that

[cloud yew]

ahhh ok yeah

[final flare]

(this sounds like I'm insulting you, I did not mean for it to come off so aggressive <3)

[rocky flicker]

I’m sure yall are more smart than the multi billion dollar companies whose entire purpose is to make money

[cloud yew]

i like midwife

[leaden delta]

would proving a sale loss not be as simple as x girl doesnt buy the actual game legit so the guys dont get said money from the purchase

[rocky flicker]

I also like midwife

[stark estuary]

There is no “most basic assumption” here

[coral prawn]

Imagine being mid if I was her I would be peakwife

[pulsar fog]

optional ticket concert vs mandatory ticket concert. Same band. Same location. Which one sells more tickets?

[jade canopy]

You argument is based on the fact that there is no sales lost due to piracy
If there is then your argument of piracy being fundamentally different from normal thievery isn’t correct

[rocky flicker]

Goatwife

[muted abyss]

For all the "piracy is bad" people
Did you go to college?
This isnt an intelligence insult
But, those fucking text books.
If you didn't pirate those idk if you're even real

[rocky flicker]

Well that’s because those are comedically overpriced and used about 3 times

[fair sun]

Just like video games!

[rocky flicker]

Not really close to a game I enjoy

[cloud yew]

tbh textbooks aren’t that expensive here idk what’s going on over there

[stark estuary]

That’s not really what that means if you continue to equate piracy to theft despite repeated clarifications I have to assume you’re being deliberately obstinate

[rocky flicker]

._. No

[pulsar fog]

Libary

[opaque sigil]

like half the time the professors basically posted links

[muted abyss]

college textbooks are north of like $300

[oblique musk]

You’d think, and most companies say as such, but there is the question of whether or not the girl in question would (or could) get the game through legal channels if piracy were not an option.

[final flare]

I mean you'd be surprised. Look at Edmund McMillen, the creator of Meat Boy and Binding of Isaac among others and how he talks about piracy, as an indie dev he actually understands the effect piracy has on a game, and actively doesn't care, and even implements measures to make piracy of his own games easier

[jade canopy]

Im not saying piracy is bad
This was never about morality
It is about how you see things

I consider piracy theft
And I’ve stolen movies, scientific publications…

[rocky flicker]

Where do you live I’m moving there

[stark estuary]

Then you’re just wrong

[cloud yew]

scotland :Þ

[leaden delta]

oooh if its like that yea absolutely pirate

[fair sun]

Youre playing a game thats not competitive (which most are free) for a loooong time its on you

[stark estuary]

It’s not even about whether or not there’s a loss of sales that’s just wrong

[cloud yew]

there’s literally no reason for a textbook to be $300 america is crazy

[opaque sigil]

it's definitionally not theft

[leaden delta]

like i dont think its a crazy take

[frigid basin]

the monitor isn't even visible in the image where his reddit name is

[rocky flicker]

Not a looong time, but enough where I’d consider my money well spent

[leaden delta]

it shouldnt be i think???

[rocky flicker]

If I pay 20 bucks for a game I play for 6 months I’m fine with that

[leaden delta]

god DAMMIT i keep dropping my mechanical pencil and wasting lead

[pulsar fog]

Im sorry

[rocky flicker]

I don’t see that as the same as a textbook costs 300 bucks I am going to use about 80 pages of over a total of 4 months

[final flare]

This is exactly the issue

For you, they are not the same

[rocky flicker]

If you see textbooks and video games as the same I hope you find a better video game

[stark estuary]

When a person pirates a product the original copyright holder still possesses the work they made, unlike the theft of an object
You can’t claim they “stole sales” that’s ridiculous

[oblique musk]

Have you considered a wooden pencil? Back in my day my parents couldn’t afford to buy me a mechanical pencil on account of the Depression, and the wooden ones did me just fine.

[leaden delta]

mhm

[final flare]

For someone who is making far less money, and can't even justify €20 to spend on a game they'll pay for 6 months, that's why they pirate

[rocky flicker]

Nah mechanical pencils are genuinely goated

[pulsar fog]

are you 100 years old (I'm sorry america brain took over)

[stark estuary]

People still use wooden pencils

[rocky flicker]

My engineering professor gave our entire class each a mechanical pencil because she said we’d need it and we did

[reef fulcrum]

sharpening wooden pencils is the worst

[leaden delta]

oh no yeah i have a lot of traditional pencils, i just prefer mechanical pencils. they're sharper, and theyre generally more comfortable in my opinion

[final flare]

Their view on the price and value of that game, is the same as your view of the price and value of college textbooks, just from a different financial perspective

[oblique musk]

No, that was the joke. I am also American.

[opaque sigil]

only if you have a bad sharpener

[stark estuary]

It can be somewhat therapeutic

[leaden delta]

also very very convenient in not having to sharpen them like traditional pencils. it fucking suckkkkkss

[pulsar fog]

phew 🦅

[reef fulcrum]

it's not fun during a test

[stark estuary]

Well that’s on you for going into a test without a sharp pencil

[opaque sigil]

I remember one time needing to sharpen a pencil with a pair of scissors felt like gearing up to stake a vampire

[pulsar fog]

I meant the depression thing lol

[rocky flicker]

I love sharpening pencils with scissors it makes me feel like a caveman

[stark estuary]

Use a razor next time

[opaque sigil]

well I didn't have a razor on me

[oblique musk]

I did that all the time with a knife back when I was in the Boy Scouts. Only cut myself once.

[rocky flicker]

I don’t tend to bring razors to class

[muted abyss]

If you take out the text book he said the same thing you said
"The cost of this item for the use I'll get out of it is not ok, so I wont pay for it"

[pulsar fog]

The official Satisfactory merch mechanical pencil is the best writing implement I have ever used. I've had it for like 2 years now, and I don't even play the game anymore

[stark estuary]

Well that’s just a skill issue innit

[muted abyss]

can they release silk song soon

[rocky flicker]

No : )

[muted abyss]

ill buy 5 copies to ward off the pirates if they do
I just really want silk song

[leaden delta]

ya

[stark estuary]

That’s a great idea why don’t you ask them

I’m sure TC would be thrilled to hear your suggestions!

[muted abyss]

I was stupid enough to stumble along this game in 2017

[lilac gyro]

Yo chat

[final flare]

Question for the americans here, do you really not have kettles? I saw someone say they weren't a thing in america but it sounds very far fetched

[oblique musk]

I heard off good authority that every time someone asks that they take a 10 day break.

[rocky flicker]

I can walk to team cherry hq it’ll just take a few weeks

[pulsar fog]

If SS was optional to pay for TC would make less money methinks

[opaque sigil]

I have an electric one

[cloud yew]

my american friends mostly seem to have kettles

[lilac gyro]

Wdym? I have electric one

[leaden delta]

yeah we have them

[muted abyss]

More americans dont than do tbh

[rocky flicker]

I think you’ve been lied to

[final flare]

I've been lied to indeed

[stark estuary]

As a non-American I can confirm Americans don’t have kettles

[pulsar fog]

I don't drink any hot drinks, but I'd have one if I did

[oblique musk]

Not many young folks have them, but they’re definitely still there.

[lilac gyro]

[zenith parrot]

guys do you think it will be shadow released?

[opaque sigil]

silence brit your people's sins are well beyond mine

[muted abyss]

most americans use Percolators, dont drink tea, or keurigs

[rocky flicker]

Nope

[pulsar fog]

so far

[cloud yew]

i’ve seen a lot of americans talking about boiling water on the stove or whatever but also lots of americans believe lies about what british people do so i’m taking it with a grain of salt

[oblique musk]

I highly doubt it, but it would be really fucking funny if they did.

[pulsar fog]

ok there's no kettles in Ohio. I can confirm that much.

[final flare]

It's so funny how many americans believe stuff we make up in Ireland

[oblique musk]

Yeah we boil water on the stove. What else are you supposed to do with it?

[fair sun]

United Statians

[rocky flicker]

There’s nothing in Ohio

[cloud yew]

recently my american friends thought that british people don’t wash the soap off their dishes

[stark estuary]

Unfortunately true however I do not claim them as my people

[rocky flicker]

A barren wasteland devoid of hope

[pulsar fog]

I'm there

[oblique musk]

I’m not Mexican though?

[cloud yew]

i like telling them that haggis is a real animal

[rocky flicker]

You are the last living resident of Ohio. Good luck comrade

[stark estuary]

Microwave it????

[cloud yew]

boil it in a kettle

[rocky flicker]

Kettle

[oblique musk]

Okay yeah fair we do that too sometimes

[opaque sigil]

don't you put the kettle on the stove if it's not an electric one

[muted abyss]

Most americans know that british people dont have AC or Dental care
But british people know we have guns and all the consequences that come with them

[stark estuary]

I can’t tell if this is a joke or if Americans actually microwave water

[oblique musk]

Hey, man, uh, where does the kettle go

[rocky flicker]

Buy an electric kettle

[cloud yew]

we do have dental care lmao

[oblique musk]

I do it when I’m running late

[muted abyss]

depends on for what
But yes
But americans just dont drink tea

[opaque sigil]

I mean like instant noodles ig

[rocky flicker]

I microwave milk

[cloud yew]

we don’t have AC but i’m pretty sure we have better dental care than the US does 😭

[pulsar fog]

I have never boiled in the microwave, but I heat it

[opaque sigil]

if I didn't have an electric kettle and wanted tea I'd probably microwave it bc what else

[stark estuary]

Well sure

So it’s true that Americans don’t use kettles

[wheat sail]

goodnight krusty krew

[oblique musk]

Wrong. I am American, and I drink tea. So does most of my family. Argument invalidated.

[rocky flicker]

Yep

[leaden delta]

yea its the us healthcare system you could be legit 100% lying and i would believe u

[opaque sigil]

I just said I have a kettle 😭

[final flare]

Speaking for Ireland here, but when it comes to weather it's basically the same, but we really don't need AC since it doesn't get nearly as hot here as it does in the US. And dental care does exist and is far cheaper than the US, but there's just far less social importance placed on teeth here

[oblique musk]

Goodnight kirbstar

[cloud yew]

if you actually talk to british people you’ll see that they have perfectly normal teeth that are usually pretty straight and white

[rocky flicker]

Fake news

[stark estuary]

Sorry I can’t hear you over the microwave noises

[muted abyss]

You just lost your citizenship for drinking tea
Real americans throw it in the harbor

[stark estuary]

REAL

[leaden delta]

i enjoy tea sometimes

[wheat sail]

only brits have kettles for making tea water

[rocky flicker]

I don’t drink tea or coffee tbh

[leaden delta]

only when its hot though. i dont enjoy it once it's cooled

[opaque sigil]

It'll be you in there next lobsterback

[stark estuary]

I don’t even like tea

[muted abyss]

I make the starbucks drinks in the morning
My nespresso puts in the work

[rocky flicker]

I like tea and coffee but I can’t be asked to make it

[oblique musk]

Not from the south, got it.

[pulsar fog]

I drank tea once and everyone made fun of me for drinking "hot dirty water" so I haven't done it again since

[cloud yew]

lately i’ve been struggling without AC in the summer ngl……

[leaden delta]

no i am tragically

[muted abyss]

ooof

[oblique musk]

Fym tragically

[rocky flicker]

A southerner who doesn’t like ice tea. Fake

[stark estuary]

My hot beverage of choice is hibiscus

[cloud yew]

historically we haven’t needed it but 30°C gets difficult in a house with no AC that is built for cold weather

[rocky flicker]

Ain’t that a plant

[muted abyss]

Means that north east is king baby

[stark estuary]

No it’s an animal

[leaden delta]

The US southern states??????

[final flare]

Yeah I get you, but that wasn't the case for a long while, but thanks to climate change AC is getting more and more importnat

[leaden delta]

lets think real quick

[rocky flicker]

I live in Australia if I didn’t have ac I would die

[pulsar fog]

Like New Jersey????

[oblique musk]

You know what I just got it

[final flare]

How hot does it get there?

[rocky flicker]

That is not a joke summer outside in Australia is not liveable for most living animals

[muted abyss]

new jersey is sadly in the north east
we dont look at it

[rocky flicker]

Hottest I’ve been in was a few years back 45

[oblique musk]

I guess my only impression of the south is my grandparents from Texas. Lovely people.

[pulsar fog]

South of NYC, south enough for me

[final flare]

jesus, I start to boil at like 25 lol

[cloud yew]

it’s scary how quickly the summers have gotten so hard to deal with, they were pretty tolerable like 10-15 years ago as far as i can remember

[muted abyss]

freedom unit translation?

[kindred pewter]

chat instead of talking about E1331 and "SILKSONG IS CANCELLED" let us appreciate other works from other people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zitzeAGSS_E

[pulsar fog]

we're actually talking about kettles rn

[oblique musk]

77

[kindred pewter]

fuck uhh this is the hollow knight hidden world animation, check it out

[leaden delta]

aaah

[muted abyss]

damn thats nice temps

[final flare]

I think the hottest I've ever experienced was like, 33 or 34?

[leaden delta]

yeah generally shit is more miserable down here

[carmine island]

embed fail laugh at him

[final flare]

Nah wayyyyy too hot for me

[rocky flicker]

Yeah that’s like our average summer day

[muted abyss]

EVER???? Damn bro
it gets cooking overhere

[leaden delta]

I am like 9 different minorities

[rocky flicker]

In the south???

[muted abyss]

In the south? You're playing life on hard mode

[cloud yew]

it’s insane that it hit 40°C in ENGLAND a while ago

[oblique musk]

Are you saying ahh, like an expression of understanding, or just screaming quietly. Either is understandable.

[kindred pewter]

shit th efuck up muffiny

[rocky flicker]

We are not making it to 2050

[final flare]

That wasn't even in Ireland lol, it was on holidays

[lilac gyro]

@rustic ore btw did you redeem codes and shit

[cloud yew]

no chance

[oblique musk]

I’m 1, and barely.

[final flare]

My comfy temp is like 15C or 59F

[rocky flicker]

That’s so cold what

[cloud yew]

21°C is perfect

[final flare]

Nah it is the perfect weather

[pulsar fog]

my comfy goes from like 59F to 75F

[rocky flicker]

I have my ac turned to 24 and it’s nice and cool

[leaden delta]

ya

[muted abyss]

I keep my place at around temp all the time

[final flare]

You can comfortably wear a tshirt and skirt, but aren't so hot you start to boil

[stark estuary]

Fun fact at an altitude of 63,000 feet water boils at only 37 °C which is the normal body temperature of humans

This is called Armstrong’s Line and going above it can lead to the formation of water vapor bubbles within bodily fluids, a process called ebullism

[leaden delta]

I am going to fucking leave

[rocky flicker]

Bye bye

[oblique musk]

Me personally I’m partial to a nice 2° F myself

[pulsar fog]

run away to canada 🍁

[muted abyss]

where to

[leaden delta]

shit idk up north into chicago or wisconsin or smth

[final flare]

That's fair but tbh the best temp to go outside in has to be 0K

[leaden delta]

up to my gf

[cloud yew]

hot and cold are both torture in scotland bc it’s so humid that the cold seeps into your bones and the hot is suffocating

[pulsar fog]

Madison, WI is really nice. Lived there for ~1.5 yrs

[muted abyss]

becareful cause if you go to far north you end up more south

[oblique musk]

Chicago is cold as fuck, maybe too much so for a southerner.

[rocky flicker]

Nice breezy absolute 0

[pulsar fog]

this is the best joke of the night people

[rocky flicker]

The HUH?

[muted abyss]

ive seen a fair share of confederate flags in northern NY
its wild

[leaden delta]

yeaa dw I’m aware cuz my gf has lived in that state her whole life

[oblique musk]

The night people, haven’t you heard of them?

[leaden delta]

oh u meant general north

[pulsar fog]

like the earth is round, so if you keep going around you end up south

[strange gulch]

Can you believe it guys? Silksong! Just a week away

[rocky flicker]

Night person sounds bad

[serene chasm]

Oh you believe what they tell you?!

[muted abyss]

im gonna silk my last song if this isnt true now

[rocky flicker]

It’s actually tomorrow

[oblique musk]

Silksong! Just in a week!

[leaden delta]

nahhh I’ll be good

[rocky flicker]

Mhm sure it is buddy keep believing nasa lies

[final flare]

wdym? it came out yesterday?

[pulsar fog]

Actual I wrote the Earth lore so...

[rocky flicker]

Time zones we gotta wait a bit

[oblique musk]

I thought I could adjust to it, being a northerner myself. I misjudged.

[final flare]

Yeah these sheeple are so dumb, earth is obviously velociraptor shaped 🙄

[cloud yew]

flat earthers are so fucking stupid the earth is literally round how else would it be hollow with dinosaurs and the illuminati living inside???

[strange gulch]

Woohoo! I am so happy about this information

[cloud yew]

hollow earth theory is real

[pulsar fog]

Week! Silksong a in Just!

[serene chasm]

Please dont spread misinformation

?tag info sources

?info sources

[strange gulch]

Ok, I'll stop

[frigid basin]

such as the E1331 post (likely)

[cloud yew]

but that’s what hollow knight fans do

[stark estuary]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[serene chasm]

Its not what we do. We're better then them

[rocky flicker]

HE FAILED THE EMBED LAUGH AT HIM EVERYONE

[final flare]

What are you on about? Dinosaurs aren't real, they were ancient robots from an ancient alien race from venus, obviously

[serene chasm]

embeds are off

[oblique musk]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[cloud yew]

this changes everything

[mortal grove]

why are embeds off

[oblique musk]

Then turn them back on? Skill issue tbh

[serene chasm]

I dont feel like it

[mortal grove]

something always happening in this chat.....no embeds....no slowmode....

[pulsar fog]

It's actually called Vepus

[inland ravine]

wait what the fuck happen here

oh

[pulsar fog]

Tea kettle

[cloud yew]

venus isn’t real it’s a projection on the firmament like the moon is

[final flare]

in the space club, straight up... launching it... and by "it"... well lets justr say... my vepus

[cloud yew]

we live in a dome like in the simpsons movie

[final flare]

no the dome lives inside us

[pulsar fog]

Would you all be quiet for a little bit, I'm trying to sleep

[strange gulch]

Nah, the universe is a brain and it's dreaming about the universe

[cloud yew]

i kind of wish we did live in a dome that would be kind of fun

giant terrarium

we need an enclosure

[pulsar fog]

Bug coded mindset

[final flare]

Oh sorry, I'll be quiet

[oblique musk]

I mean, yeah, what else would you expect from this place?

[final flare]

-# ok everyone keep it down, we don't want to wake holden up

[pulsar fog]

pickle coded-mindset (They are canon) ZZZ...

[oblique musk]

Make one yourself, Saddam Hussein style. Be the change you want to see in the world.

[muted abyss]

Even though its likely fake
I hope the E1331 thing is real, it made me feel good inside

[young saffron]

you know thats already over right?

[strange gulch]

"I want to believe"

[cloud yew]

definitely not real

[muted abyss]

I choose to believe

[oblique musk]

Mods ban this guy for 8 hours so he goes to bed

[vocal trellis]

I’m so lost, I just had to pick this past month to be off reddit, catching up is a nightmare

[cloud yew]

also it’s kind of fucked for him to tell people that silksong is probably their last game

[violet path]

huh

[coral prawn]

Ban me while at it

[final flare]

You didn't miss anything. E1331 did a countdown with some mystery elements and the big reveal was another big bait

[pulsar fog]

No I actually have to go get stuff done now, talk to y'all later

[weak badge]

tomorrow for SURE!!

[violet path]

oh thank GOD i wasnt in chat

[oblique musk]

Honestly me too it’s fuckin midnight where I am

[vocal trellis]

Well and the cake thing I missed

[final flare]

-# byeeee

[violet path]

i hate reddit

[vocal trellis]

I though there was still stuff going on with that… didn’t they change the banner again or smth

[final flare]

cake thing was also nothing, william changed his pfp and people found meaning where there was none

[final flare]

Yeah but it's not real, Leth basically confirmed it

[vocal trellis]

Ahh ok

[oblique musk]

Okay, but the cake thing was less nothing than this nothing.

[muted abyss]

Basically
Keep hopium guys

[cloud yew]

can’t post a screenshot but he implied that team cherry told him silksong would be their last game

[frigid basin]

and people still blindingly believe it because they're idiots

[vocal trellis]

I just joined the discord too so I haven’t seen much from here

[violet path]

well i feel like thats kinda obvious

[cloud yew]

the “message” doesn’t read remotely like anything team cherry have ever written lmao

[final flare]

Sometimes it's nice to believe

[frigid basin]

not an argument

the subreddit mods also lied/were in on the joke

[vocal trellis]

I mean I learned from a friend that really had no idea what was going on so we both kind of believed it because of the lack of context

[muted abyss]

bro we got like 5 messages in the last 6 years to go off of
Its not like we have volumes of it

[final flare]

I disagree, believing that E1331 was gonna reveal something was just a lot of fun

[nimble sentinel]

if the e1331 statement was true that means we will never get a hollow knight 3

[frigid basin]

i was saying that's not an argument for the statement being bait or real (it's bait)

[muted abyss]

we gotta get Hollow knight 2 before we start worrying about HK 3

[cloud yew]

we have blog posts and interviews and videos they’ve posted to learn how they talk and that is not how they talk lol

[oblique musk]

They’re all going to be 500+ years old when Silksong comes out, and crumble to dust the moment they release it, so it will be their last.

[final flare]

Oh yeah it's defo bait, I was just saying it was fun to believe in the build up to it that there was actually something to it

[nimble sentinel]

I know but if the team falls apart we wont ever get a hk 3

[vocal trellis]

I wouldn’t put it past tc to disprove something though and then come back to it, they seem like the type to do that

[strange gulch]

"I think this community might genuinely turn evil" -Dejus, while talking about the Hollow Knight community
Do yall agree?

[cloud yew]

they said while they’ve been developing silksong they’ve gathered ideas for a bunch of different games they want to make

[muted abyss]

dont let them stop you from believing

[final flare]

Sorry, but I've had my fun believing, and am now solemly on the side of nothing ever happens

[cloud yew]

so as far as we know they’re still enthusiastic about game dev and we’ve seen them together on multiple occasions in recent times so i don’t believe there’s been any kind of breakdown in their relationship

[oblique musk]

I think if 2025 comes and goes without major news (annual Leth tweets don’t count) we will genuinely go through a collective villain arc.

[serene chasm]

People like you are why the world is in the state its in

[nimble sentinel]

I hope it just means theyll do a hk thats not a metroidvania, because theres going to be multiple lore issues otherwise

[cloud yew]

hey you’re a random silksong bug and i’m also a random silksong bug

[final flare]

Honestly I'd be shocked if they did another game in the HK world

[vocal trellis]

Indeed I am, lost and confused

[final flare]

I feel like they'll surely be out of juice for this specific world, and will want to branch out to something truly new

[cloud yew]

i think it would be best if their next thing isn’t hollow knight related

[frail egret]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-gif-10142735480136358490

[final flare]

That's probably why silksong is taking so long, they are doing every single thing they want to do with the HK world, so they don't have any regrets about missing out on smt they could've done

[coarse leaf]

SOMETHING ALWAYS HAPPENS

[muted abyss]

I think its taking forever because TC likely got addicted to collecting pokemon cards and are now looking for moon umbreon

[vocal trellis]

Ik that whatever they put out will be worth the wait so I don’t really care about how long it takes

[cloud yew]

i think they could probably still do a lot with the series but i’d worry about burnout so if they did another hollow knight game i feel like it would be better later down the line

[strange gulch]

That or we'll turn into literally Hallownest. Baron with the occational toxic and infected people

[coarse leaf]

WE'RE SO BACK

[final flare]

Nothing happened? It was bait

[muted abyss]

dont let them stop you from believing Xenon

[frail egret]

hollow knight is for the vibes (i have no idea what the lore is)

[strange gulch]

They took the money to buy a property in egypt

[serene chasm]

hold on to that feeling

[coarse leaf]

We can't know for sure tbh

[final flare]

the lore is just daddy issues x100

[coarse leaf]

It could very well be a message from team cherry

[final flare]

leth practically confirmed its not real

[cloud yew]

check leth’s messages

[frail egret]

WHAT I THOUGHT it was just cute little creatures…

[strange gulch]

The whole universe was in a hot, dense state. When nearly 14 billion years ago expansion started (wait)

[final flare]

yeah pale king had like 1 million babies and killed them all but 1 and then raised that child to get infected and abused

bad dad

[frail egret]

huh?!?

[final flare]

(grossly oversimplified)

[muted abyss]

I was typing out the same thing

[coarse leaf]

He just said they don't have to confirm every rumor is fake

[cloud yew]

did you…. play the game?

[final flare]

you are one of his children, and the hollow knight is the child who he raised to get infected

[coarse leaf]

Which is a pretty vague response

[final flare]

Well feel free to cope

I won't stop you

[frail egret]

i’m sorry i didn’t 🥲 i saw the cute creatures and decided to start drawing fan art

[serene chasm]

Typical Grimm pfp user

[muted abyss]

I agree with Xenon

[final flare]

honestly so fair lol

[frail egret]

i’ve watched a ton of playthroughs but honestly i’m not that into gaming

[coarse leaf]

Thank you for believing me nosk

[frail egret]

🥲💝

[final flare]

but yeah hollow knight lore goes hard

Did you see the Abyss in the playthroughs you watched?

[frail egret]

maybe i should search it up

[cloud yew]

oh lmao that’s fair actually

[muted abyss]

Idk if I was a company and a fan was putting words in my mouth to 1000s of fans
I wouldnt beat around the bush about it
Id be 100% straight and say "E1331 and his message is not affilated with TC"

[coarse leaf]

I mean i wouldn't be disappointed if it was just another shitpost, but i still choose to believe it by now

[vocal trellis]

Mossbag vids go hard watch those… they teach you the ways of the world

[frail egret]

yaaa

[final flare]

it's basically your birthplace and also a graveyard for all your siblings

[cloud yew]

have you watched mossbag’s lore videos?

[strange gulch]

I recently reached there and immediately chickened out once the music hits

[lucid holly]

so many new knights

[final flare]

all those little helmets are the skulls of your dead siblings

[lucid holly]

gotta love it

[cloud yew]

you can learn pretty much everything that happens in the game through mossbag

[frail egret]

but they’re so cute how could this happen

[final flare]

wait should i be spoiler tagging this? /genq

[final flare]

bad dad

[coarse leaf]

Speaking on the abyss, did y'all know there's a cut bench in the abyss that's made out of siblings?

[jade canopy]

"We team cherry are not affiliated with random persons"

Yes ? That is like… normal ?
People will still believe the first person that comes around saying they are affiliated with TC

[serene chasm]

Only needed in #hk-help

[coarse leaf]

God i love cut content

[cloud yew]

i’m so sad that bench was cut

i’m excited to see the benches in silksong bc it sounds like more of them are unique this time

[frail egret]

is it just always the same people talking in the chat? it’s kinda peaceful here 😗

[final flare]

it was not peaceful earlier lol

[leaden delta]

when it’s not some silksong event, usually yeah

[final flare]

like 3 hours ago it was a warzone

[cloud yew]

usually mostly the same people except when something happens and then a million billion people flood in

[frail egret]

😭why

[leaden delta]

Each channel kinda has its own regulars you’ll see often

[vocal trellis]

Alr well I’m going to bed gn y’all talk tomorrow

[final flare]

Someone pulled the biggest bait the silksong subreddit's history

[muted abyss]

I mean we’re in the sequel channel I think it’s Safe to assume people have played the game or are ok with learning about it here

[cloud yew]

gn hound

[frail egret]

yess i kinda like this channel

[final flare]

And convinced a bunch of people that they were affiliated with team cherry

[cloud yew]

they haven’t played the game though

[leaden delta]

yayaya and also u just like get to talk about whatever here cuz for the most part all silksong topics have been exhausted

it’s another hk-offtopic channel basically

[cloud yew]

the lore is very interesting i’d honestly avoid spoilers and go watch mossbag’s videos if i were u

[frail egret]

damn i just thought the silksong cover was epic

[frail egret]

gonna do that now actually 🔥

[cloud yew]

there are a bunch but i’d start with the mostly complete lore of hollow knight one

there are shorter ones about DLCs and more specific topics

[final flare]

banger video fr

[frail egret]

so excited ☺️

[final flare]

get some popcorn, it's a long one lol

[leaden delta]

https://x.com/catmintnepetas/status/1885017757961642469?s=46

nepeta/neon❤️‍🩹 (@catmintnepetas) on X

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X · Jan 30, 2025, 5:30 PM

[coarse leaf]

I'll be honest here, i never watched that mossbag video

[cloud yew]

omg

[coarse leaf]

I guess i'm not a real fan 😔

[final flare]

no better time than the present

[cloud yew]

u should watch it

[final flare]

watchparty time

[muted abyss]

Mossbag is the truth

[cloud yew]

so excited for the silksong lore videos

foaming at the mouth gnawing on the bars of my enclosure etc

[final flare]

ok should i go to bed so i can get up in like, 2 hours, or just finish my all nighter?

[serene chasm]

go the fuck to sleep

[obtuse jackal]

Finish the job

[jade canopy]

"It’s a long one"
For 2020 standards
Now a 45 min video is normal length
Elden ring video about the lore of pots is one hour minimum

[cloud yew]

i always end up sleeping through my alarm if i only have like 2 hours so i’d stay up

[coarse leaf]

I just wanna see the Grimm Troupe in silksong 🙏

[cloud yew]

or you could take 4 half hour naps which i’ve done occasionally

[coarse leaf]

Literally my favorite part of the OG game

[final flare]

It's only 45 min? damn i thought it was like 90 min lol

[cloud yew]

just set alarms for every half hour so you’re never in REM sleep

[final flare]

I'd defo wake up, I'm a light sleeper

[jade canopy]

Mute ‘em curly

[cloud yew]

i’m possibly the heaviest sleeper on earth

[coarse leaf]

Better get 2 hours of sleep than don't get any

[final flare]

Also a rem cycle is 90 min, so I'd get through a full one

[cloud yew]

yeah that’s why you set alarms to wake you up every half hour

[lapis oyster]

There wasn't even a worm on the hook this time, yet I'm still biting it

[final flare]

Then you get worse quality sleep?

[cloud yew]

yes

[final flare]

that's probably a good idea

[cloud yew]

but if you only have a couple hours and you know you’ll sleep through alarms if you’re properly asleep it’s a good strat

[final flare]

Yeah I suppose so

[eager basalt]

Bro the silksong sub reddit has gone to hell

[cloud yew]

saved me on several occasions when i had a million exams

[final flare]

Ok good night all, have a good night/morning/day

[cloud yew]

gn :Þ

[young saffron]

Wtf new knight role gone

[cloud yew]

yeah it’s bad

[young saffron]

Welcome new regular 🙏

[eager basalt]

I was in this discord way back when lol

[coarse leaf]

That sub has gone to hell since 2023

[young saffron]

Not you I was referring to lucy

[coarse leaf]

Gn bro

[eager basalt]

I remember graduating high school in 2019 and being sad that I'd be out of town for the silksong release that June. Lol

I'm married now lmao. That subreddit is nuts to check on after all these years

[young saffron]

I was a wee little boy in 2018, now I'm a some what bigger boy

[cloud yew]

i’d give anything to be one of the many people who will only find out about hollow knight when silksong releases

[novel blaze]

send me to the cryochamber that unfreezes when silksong comes out

[muted abyss]

Hornet gonna take her nephew in under her wing I guess

[strange gulch]

Silksong should release Team Cherry

[unborn moat]

Has E1331 posted le funny silkpost?

[coarse leaf]

I was 10 when the game was announced, i didn't even know what hollow knight was

[novel blaze]

yea

[coarse leaf]

Now i'm almost finishing high school

[lapis oyster]

Bro wakes up to witness the heat death of the universe

[young saffron]

You are old!!

[novel blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/fry-futurama-frozen-gif-260392732511353704

[cloud yew]

i don’t think we will see them but i’m hoping 😞

i’m sure even if we don’t see any familiar characters the new characters will make up for it but stillllll

[novel blaze]

id be surprised if we see anyone beyond like the spiders and mr mushroom

[zinc crow]

Holy shit metaphor peakfantazio

[novel blaze]

maybe the hollow knight if they continue the godhome ending

[eager basalt]

Since the game has been announced, I graduated high school, learned a new language, and lived in another country for several years. Then, I got a college degree and a software engineering job, and got married lol. I'll probably have a kid before the game releases

[cloud yew]

it would be cool to see cornifer and iselda since iselda was talking about wanting to explore again or something

[zinc crow]

Zote

[cloud yew]

i want this to happen so bad but i know it won’t

[strange gulch]

I think we might get something like pantheon in ss

Hopefully on release

[novel blaze]

we better get at least a way to refight bosses

[novel blaze]

0% chance this games getting dlc

[zinc crow]

I mean eventually

[cloud yew]

i think we’re around the same age and since silksong was announced i did absolutely nothing of importance LMAO

[eager basalt]

To be fair idk if team cherry has done anything either lol

[zinc crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816377769402433568/1332083948116901888/pu0s4fdalkxd1.png?ex=679d31da&is=679be05a&hm=e6f44460141968172b9d2f8de3fe5f4a2c7c37a01682212ff181f63e70b09088&

[cloud yew]

i decided to get my shit together and go to uni when i was 21 so i’m still doing that but that’s pretty much it

[novel blaze]

i didnt do all that but it feels weird being so much older now. im not that kid watching the reveal trailer in computer class valentines day anymore

[cloud yew]

uni is fun though at least. or it can be

[frail egret]

wait you’ve all graduated? 😀

[eager basalt]

College is a lot of fun

[novel blaze]

i like college but i stuggle with motivation to actually go to classes

[eager basalt]

I had a good time

[cloud yew]

high school?

[frail egret]

yeah

[eager basalt]

I'm done with college too lol

[cloud yew]

well i didn’t graduate high school i left when i was like 14 to be a waste of space for several years

but i would’ve graduated in 2019

[frail egret]

🫢

[novel blaze]

stay in school kids

[eager basalt]

There's no right path through life

[frail egret]

Omg is hollow knight that old

[novel blaze]

its gonna be like 8 years old this year right?

[frail egret]

am I that young? 😭

[quiet knot]

whats going on

[novel blaze]

u missed EVERYTHING

[quiet knot]

yes

[cloud yew]

yeah i don’t really feel bad about it it was kind of just undiagnosed autism and the education system being incompatible lmao

[frail egret]

whatttt 😭

[cloud yew]

i’m chilling now 💪

[coarse leaf]

I'm young too man, dw

[eager basalt]

I get it. I took a few years between high school and college to figure stuff out

[frail egret]

I’m very much a child 😔 came here to make friends and chat about cute creatures

[quiet knot]

Awesome

[frail egret]

and then found out that the game is 8 years old

[young saffron]

Mirror mirror on the wall who's the skibiest of them all

[cloud yew]

yeah it’s pretty old now

[frail egret]

what

[cloud yew]

it doesn’t seem as old as it is bc of the style i think

[young saffron]

Ig it's not you 😤

[cloud yew]

stylised games age way better

[novel blaze]

also the game didnt get super popular until like a year or two later right

[frail egret]

WHATS skibidi

[eager basalt]

To be fair, there are some beautiful 8 year old games

[novel blaze]

i didnt hear of it till dunkey

[frail egret]

oops sorry didn’t mean to type in caps

[young saffron]

You don't know? Oh my god there's alot to teach you

[quiet knot]

Bait please dont teach them brain rot, we already have enough of that

[frail egret]

it’s not in the dictionary I don’t think

[young saffron]

Thankfully my degree in brainrot comes in handy

[cloud yew]

yeah a lot of its popularity has been gained over time

i think it’s gained a lot of traction through people talking about the silksong wait too

[eager basalt]

I picked it up on the switch in 2018 or so, which checks out

[novel blaze]

google "skibidi toilet"

[coarse leaf]

I think it only actually became popular with the nintendo switch release

[frail egret]

okay

[eager basalt]

I didn't finish all the achievements and the pantheons till this year

[frail egret]

oh my god

[coarse leaf]

I did pretty much everything the game has too far

Except all bindings pantheons

[cloud yew]

i still have to do the pantheons again on my current save and i’m dreading it

[strange gulch]

Now mod it

[eager basalt]

The last pantheon is kinda just a drag tbh

[novel blaze]

i wouldnt consider those like actual goals to strive for

[coarse leaf]

I play on the switch 😔

[eager basalt]

I'm good, the mods I've seen don't have the same polish

[coarse leaf]

Well, it's still something you can do

[frail egret]

I should probably play the game actually

[novel blaze]

what

[cloud yew]

yeah i’m not really huge on boss rushes to begin with but the completionist in me forces my hand

[coarse leaf]

You haven't played it???

[cloud yew]

i like godhome though i like being able to refight the bosses and fight harder versions of them

[novel blaze]

true but like cmon thats like saying you gotta get all shiny pokemon

[frail egret]

no I’m just here for the fanart 😭😭😭

[cloud yew]

the pantheons are just a lot

[eager basalt]

That's honestly why I did it. The final final boss was worth it tho

[coarse leaf]

Fair point

[eager basalt]

Valid af

[cloud yew]

do you think you’ll ever pick up the game yourself?

i can’t recommend it highly enough but it can be hard

[frail egret]

hm probably tbh

[coarse leaf]

The HK fandom has some of the most underrated artists i've ever seen tbh

[novel blaze]

i did it a few years ago. wasnt too hard.

[cloud yew]

seriously

[frail egret]

The only game I’ve ever played is project sekai, Diablo and the average Minecraft and Roblox

[eager basalt]

Yeah it's mostly just time. I did the speed run achievement and the steel soul one in the same run for example, and got it on my second try

[cloud yew]

there’s something in the water bro idk what some of these artists are on but i need just a tiny sliver of that talent

[eager basalt]

Minecraft is the goat

[cloud yew]

yayyyy project sekai

[novel blaze]

me too. didnt save quit cheese either [i think]

[frail egret]

YAAAAYY

[novel blaze]

go play fortnite or somethin dawg

[cloud yew]

i’ve seen a bunch of people say hollow knight was their first game ever so it’s not prohibitively difficult i don’t think

[frail egret]

maybe if I have timeeee

[eager basalt]

Nah he's got all he needs

[frail egret]

good good

[novel blaze]

thats kinda crazy

[frail egret]

What does that mean

[eager basalt]

The games you play are really good

[barren hare]

thats 4 games

ever

[frail egret]

Ahhhhh I see. Thanksss :>

[eager basalt]

I mean if you've played Mario then you can play hollow knight. The early game is super easy

[novel blaze]

is fortnite not really good

[eager basalt]

No, sorry. I liked it for the first week when it came out tho

[eager basalt]

My opinion at least

[novel blaze]

thats fine lol

[cloud yew]

i’ve never played fortnite but they have miku now so +1 points for fortnite

[frail egret]

they have Miku?.?

[wheat sail]

When are they adding Hank Hill to fortnite

[grand ferry]

help

[cloud yew]

yeah they added her recently

[wheat sail]

I heard they're adding sukuna next week

[eager basalt]

It's coming with the propane launcher update

[grand ferry]

what pick

[novel blaze]

yea you can buy em for 15 bucks :]

[cobalt cedar]

hello chat just gonna drop this fucking hilarious screenshot i found here

[eager basalt]

After image or phantasmal imo

[frail egret]

wowow

[wheat sail]

Depends on your deck

[grand ferry]

shiv

[strange gulch]

You know, I think fortnite might be a curse for me. I don't want to get into my personal problems but those happened while fortnite was on my computer. Also, my house nearly burned down because of overcurrent while I was playing Fortnite. (No, this is not a joke )

[cloud yew]

help

[novel blaze]

what floor r u? act 1 die die die. further after image

[cloud yew]

some random guy on reddit is more credible than the team’s official PR and marketing guy

[grand ferry]

just beat act 1

[cloud yew]

me when i’m stupid

[eager basalt]

You could get screwed on the final boss tho if it's the time keeper

[novel blaze]

after image

[coarse leaf]

Idk most people i know gave up right at the crossroads

[eager basalt]

Me when I'm in one heck of an echo chamber

[novel blaze]

time keeper aint that bad

[cobalt cedar]

ive never seen r/silksong this delusional, and that's saying something

[eager basalt]

It's just anti spam

[coarse leaf]

They either get lost or think the game is way too hard

[cobalt cedar]

dont they know that nothing ever happens?

[wheat sail]

Probably after image.. if you got something like well laid plans or good card draw I might think about PK though

[cloud yew]

when i put people on i have to tell them a million times not to give up at crossroads lmao

[eager basalt]

Some of them weren't waiting for cube world and it shows lol

[cloud yew]

i got so stuck at crossroads the first time i ever played

[novel blaze]

e1331 is definitely not tc but their message was kinda sweet

[coarse leaf]

I never had this problem tbh

[cloud yew]

getting to greenpath was so cool though after being stuck in dark miserable caverns for so long

[coarse leaf]

I felt in love with the game the first time i played it

[strange gulch]

I died to the huge guy (not false knight, but the miniboss there). Got spooked, ran away for 2 years

[novel blaze]

the game doesnt exactly tell you to go to the shop to get the quill, so i can see some less experienced gamers getting lost

[grand ferry]

im thinking PK might go crazy for shivs

[eager basalt]

I had just finished the souls trilogy and so the game was a good transition

[strange gulch]

Returned, beat that guy, beat false, and now planning on beating mono

[cloud yew]

i stuck it out bc i LOVED the art style i was just kind of going in circles for a while lol

[grand ferry]

but after iamge is good too

[frail egret]

where are hollow knight fans usually from

[cloud yew]

the problem was that i could not find the false knight idk why i was struggling so much lmfao

[serene chasm]

hallownest

[coarse leaf]

I never played Dark Souls

But i really wanna play Bloodborne

[strange gulch]

I was from Celeste at first

[novel blaze]

when i initially played the game i rage quit in the mines after losing all my geo LMAO. i fell in love when i tried it again a few years later

[weak badge]

Subnautica

[novel blaze]

da interwebs

[eager basalt]

Banger from the same era

[cloud yew]

i don’t think i’ve ever rage quit

[frail egret]

the creator was Australian sooo

[coarse leaf]

Was it at the crystalized mound?

[cloud yew]

i lost my geo a few times but meh geo comes and goes

[coarse leaf]

Cause i swear i always struggle at that part

[novel blaze]

i rage a lot in competitive games, but it was more getting frustrated here

[eager basalt]

I lost my first steel soul run there

[novel blaze]

um idk where specifically but it was the bottom right part

[cloud yew]

i don’t really get angry at games in general tbh

[coarse leaf]

I just hate crystal peaks in general

[novel blaze]

where it leads into resting grounds

[open narwhal]

gmcb

[coarse leaf]

If it wasn't for the gorgeous scenery it would be my least favorite area by far

[eager basalt]

Those crystal shooting flies suck

[cloud yew]

i like crystal peak but i wish there was more going on there

[novel blaze]

how do you feel on white palace

[coarse leaf]

Yeah ig that's crystalized mound

[cloud yew]

it’s one of those areas that feels kind of unfinished

[coarse leaf]

Top 3 area imo

[eager basalt]

The enemies under resting grounds always freaked me out tbh

[coarse leaf]

I love white palace so much

[cloud yew]

the hive had a lot of potential too but again there’s not much going on there

[novel blaze]

crazy take considering the hive state at launch

[eager basalt]

Best area

[cloud yew]

i loveeee white palace

[chrome perch]

Queens Gardens goated

[coarse leaf]

When i first got to the throne room i just sat down there and listened to the song for 5 minutes or so

[cloud yew]

the hive too

[coarse leaf]

It was such an experience man

[cloud yew]

there are a few areas i wish more was done with

[eager basalt]

Maybe they'll flesh out the areas with that dlc they've been working on

[novel blaze]

very funny

[cloud yew]

i love queen’s gardens so much

[coarse leaf]

Wdym?

[cloud yew]

queen’s gardens is probably the prettiest area to me

[coarse leaf]

It's a pretty rounded up area imo

[coarse leaf]

Most underrated area by far

[chrome perch]

Other than bosses

[coarse leaf]

Also a top 3 for me

[novel blaze]

idk i feel pretty happy with the game as it is.

[chrome perch]

Crystal guardian

[cloud yew]

idk it just doesn’t really feel like there’s anything going on there

[mossy lantern]

guys still waiting for silkspng

[strange gulch]

What about city of tears?

[mossy lantern]

they say its free is it?

[coarse leaf]

The Hive didn't even had a boss on release

[cloud yew]

it’s pretty though and the platforming is fun

[coarse leaf]

Idk if it's my favorite or second favorite area after White Palace

[cloud yew]

yeah the hive is worse but hive knight helps and the bees are cute

[coarse leaf]

Traitor Lord was also pretty unfinished on released

[chrome perch]

Hive seems samey to me

[warped oyster]

BRUH i missed him again... discord should have a feature where you can change pings for a specific user xD

[coarse leaf]

He only had 2 attacks

[novel blaze]

did anyone else like completely miss areas on their first playthrough? i remember beating the game and getting the bad ending, then going to the map shop and seeing her sell maps for 3 areas id missed: kingdoms edge, howling cliffs, and queens garden

[cloud yew]

i think it’s a shame that the hive wasn’t more fleshed out bc there’s potential for more hornet lore there with vespa

[novel blaze]

shit blew me away

[coarse leaf]

I think i only missed the hive

[chrome perch]

I didn’t play HK blind, part of the excitement of silksong

[coarse leaf]

I explored most of the game before beating it

[chrome perch]

So I didn’t miss areas

[eager basalt]

I remember getting beneath the city for the first time, it was dope

[cloud yew]

i didn’t miss any areas on my first playthrough bc i was obsessively looking for places i missed lmao

[coarse leaf]

I even got to godhome before it

[coarse leaf]

Lmao same

Funnily enough my first ending was Sealed Siblings

[novel blaze]

blind me was like "i got all da dreamers time to beat da game"

[coarse leaf]

The one most people skip on

[warped oyster]

i think i got every area before beating the game for the first time, but i didnt get dream nail until embarrassingly late. i got like every ability before it

[eager basalt]

I got that one on accident lol

[cloud yew]

i think my first one might’ve been sealed siblings too? it’s been a long time i’m not sure

i think i vaguely remember that

i think i might’ve locked myself out of the first ending by getting the voidheart because i’m a moron

[coarse leaf]

you confuse me

like how do you unlock the black egg and then just aren't curious enough to go in

[cloud yew]

busy doing other shit

[eager basalt]

I didn't go in right away either, I was used to games where the ending locked you out of the playthrough / save

[cloud yew]

i usually don’t like to get endings in games until i feel like i’ve done enough for an ending to make sense to me

i avoid endings like the plague even if they don’t actually end your playthrough

[wheat sail]

Just hope you draw it at the right time then

Or have good card draw or retain

[novel blaze]

play less metroidvanias. play more linear games

[cloud yew]

getting the voidheart gives enough story progression that it feels more like time for an ending to happen

[rapid dawn]

hey guys, I’m from subreddit. Did Leth say anything interesting today except for “all i know about E1331, is that he’s a funny guy” or smtn

[cloud yew]

i’m not opposed to linear games

linear games usually have an ending happen after the story has all already happened so they’re fine

it’s when you’re given the freedom to get an ending before you’ve done everything that i start avoiding endings

[novel blaze]

what about rougelikes

[cloud yew]

i haven’t played many roguelikes i don’t think so i’m not all that familiar with the genre

[chrome perch]

Some are good some are not

[novel blaze]

i was mostly asking since they dont really END

[wheat sail]

They end multiple times

[jade canopy]

Dead cells is peam

[cloud yew]

i’ve played cult of the lamb and i’ve seen people call that a roguelike but idk enough about them to know if it is or not

[novel blaze]

it sorta is but i wouldnt say its representative of the genre

[wheat sail]

Cult of the lamb is part roguelike part base builder

Not the most fleshed out roguelike from when I played it

Probably some of both

[novel blaze]

binding of isaac is the best rougelike hands down. other favorites are slay the spire and gungeon

also balatro

[wheat sail]

Isaac is a classic

[quartz hull]

did somebody mention peak roguelikes?

[eager basalt]

Shattered pd best roguelike

[cloud yew]

cult of the lamb is so fun but i kept encountering major performance issues

[eager basalt]

No contest imo

[quartz hull]

Risk of rain 2 is my personal fav roguelike

[novel blaze]

me too when i played. figured it might be because of co op

[cloud yew]

my issues were always in the camp it was totally fine in combat

[novel blaze]

ror2 is awesome but i dont really jive with it as well as others. i find single player boring and my pc cant run it well

and by pc i mean laptop

[quartz hull]

pc is fair but honestly i prefer singleplayer

[cloud yew]

i haven’t played co-op but i like the little goat guy

[coarse leaf]

I've only played hades (it's a roguelike right?)

[quartz hull]

you get to properly choose your items without people stealing em

[cloud yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cult-of-the-lamb-cult-lamb-goat-scream-gif-4782971986949690003

the goat is so cutie pie

[novel blaze]

maps too big. [same issue with ror returns tho i do like it more. wish it didnt get neutered]

[quartz hull]

why i like playing mobile characters. Map isnt so large when you can clear it in a couple seconds with loader or stack enough energy drinks to cross it in less than a minute

[analog forge]

any hope for valentines news?

[grand ferry]

real

[wheat sail]

Into the breach

[wheat sail]

It is just hope

[cloud yew]

we don’t know as usual

i’m hopeful that we’ll get news sometime in the near future but not because of any of the recent “happenings”

[quartz hull]

"Any hope on valentines news?" Probably not

i think we might get a quick lil update on april 2nd, nothing major but maybe an update thats something more than "We're working on it!!"

[eager basalt]

I'll be shocked if silksons ever actually comes out

Just so many years lol

[quartz hull]

it will at some point, just probably will be a bit

i'd say minimum within the next ~2 years

[coarse leaf]

It's coming out soon

I can feel it

[quartz hull]

if they thought they were a year from release in 2023, i highly doubt it will take much longer than a couple more years

[eager basalt]

Nah

It's all cope, business speak, and dev hell