sk-discussion

[warped umbra]

Hello

[paper tinsel]

Hello Blue

[fickle wave]

hi blue

[cold maple]

you guys are still falling for the Silksong Social experiment?

[fiery burrow]

Team Cherry stole my dog which I thought to be rather inconsiderate considering I bought their game so I think I'll be leaving a negative review for Hollow Knight: Silksong

[tame atlas]

You're completely missing the point. The way team cherry has treated the community throughout the years is not good. Its undefendable at this point..

[warped nacelle]

I can already see TC seething when I tell them I got ss for half price

[tame atlas]

Didn't know people here were so anti consumer

[wheat sail]

I won't show them since they are millionaires anyway so my sale doesn't matter. I just want free shit

[fiery burrow]

See like I said ragebait

[paper tinsel]

What

[warped nacelle]

I'm gonna get SS so cheap I'll buy 2 copies out of spite

[astral dagger]

I’m willing to pay 200$ for Silksong

[tame atlas]

Having an opinion you don't like =/= rage bait

[covert forge]

guys I'm really sorry and I understand if you don't forgive me but enough is enough. I can't stand this any more. Yesterday Team Cherry came to my home and they all lifted up the ice sculpture of hornet I've been working on for the past 3 years and they slowly broke it apart and put it in my fireplace while making me watch. To protest this, I will not be buying the game at full price: I will wait for it to be 3% off on the steam summer sale. I understand if you are dissapointed with me.

[fiery burrow]

Everytime you come in this channel you say the exact same thing in an inflammatory way regarding this exact topic thats like textbook ragebait

[cold maple]

if they don’t owe the fans anything then the fans don’t owe them patience and understanding or support, ur completely fine Hipster

[astral dagger]

Can we pin this

[fickle wave]

i am very dissapointed greg

[whole mortar]

They had it coming…. /s

[wheat sail]

Saying this like waiting for a sale is bad

[iron spear]

I have over 300 confirmed team Cherry's

[versed pollen]

LMAO WHAT

[whole mortar]

Hey graig

How have you been recently?

[warped umbra]

I really want whatever you're snorting

[fleet field]

I have at least 1 team cherry game

[surreal remnant]

they’re actually locked up in my basement btw, ignore the other fakes

[tame atlas]

Exactly this. Why is it bad for fans to call out team cherry's behavior but its OK for team cherry to treat their fans this way? I think the team cherry defenders at this point are just boot lickers

[iron spear]

Hello fellow community upsetter

[whole mortar]

Very belated happy new year also

[warped rock]

oh cool bluesr

[covert forge]

I mean you're fine to think this at the end of the day, but really they don't owe us anything beyond the game. I know that's been said to death but that's because it's true- We already get the occasional "still working on it", anything much more than that would just be spoiling stuff in the game

[fleet field]

Oh hi blue

[warped rock]

blue you should use your platform to spread misinformation about silksong

[versed pollen]

I'm still confused as to why buying a game on sale is protesting. Doesn't all this say is that more people will purchase their game if it's on sale

[whole mortar]

Once per week is enough, no?

[tame atlas]

1. They owe their backers who technically already paid for Silksong 2) its not about "oweing" its about basic respect

[versed pollen]

Very good that you're already doing it

[cold maple]

it’s not, but ur in the white knight chat

[covert forge]

well yeah they owe the backers the game, not constant spoilers. and like I said we do get communciation, every now and again we get a still working on it. I'm just not sure what exactly you want from them

[tame atlas]

Its just sad that these people act this way. They're kind of pathetic

[versed pollen]

You're the one complaining dawg

[wheat sail]

Team cherry when a fanbase makes them millions: 😴

[tame atlas]

Yes and?

[whole mortar]

I think you should basic respect their wishes to not interact with the side of the community that is constantly complaining at them :P

[iron spear]

@whole mortar roc is getting nearly done. I should be pushing out the demo to you guys very soon

[tame atlas]

Do you hear yourself right now?

[warped umbra]

I'm convinced that people actually don't have a life outside of silksong if this is how they feel i actually can't tell if people are trolling anymore

[covert forge]

oh Graig's the one making roc? rad

[fiery burrow]

What if instead of communicating with their fans they listened to Infinite Granite by Deafheaven? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrTGENqFiG4

[whole mortar]

Whoaa that’s so cool! Congrats on being almost at the finish line thats so exciting!!

[violet path]

Whats roc

[fiery burrow]

Anyone got song recommendations

[versed pollen]

I have decided from this point on everything you post is mid

[warped umbra]

Like I was disappointed that it wasn't an ARG and just moved on? Lmao

[fleet field]

whats a roc?

[fiery burrow]

Good thing I posted that before this point

[violet path]

Do you

[versed pollen]

Strong argument

[outer temple]

It’s similar to a ston

[whole mortar]

Listen to A Light for Attracting Attention by The Smile🔥

[tame atlas]

Also "constantly complaining at Team Cherry" this fandom had the patience of saints with Team Cherry for the longest time. Its just now people are finally and justifiably getting fed up

[fiery burrow]

[iron spear]

I have spoken to over a dozen backers and all of them don't even care about the 2nd playable character as the game they backed was so amazing anyway

[fiery burrow]

Based moth-core song

[versed pollen]

Also TC is very much still making Silksong

[warped rock]

lost one weeping

[violet path]

“This fandom” the people whining are the ones that arent active in the community whatsoever and only even think about silksong when its time to complain

[tame atlas]

Wow 12 people represents every backer!? The more you know!

[iron spear]

Well by finished I mean the Kickstarter campaign... The game still a ways off lol

[vivid belfry]

is the basic respect guy back again

[fleet field]

over a dozen??

[tame atlas]

You're arguing in bad faith.

[fiery burrow]

Sure I'll be back in 53 minutes to listen to it

[versed pollen]

Like they owe them Silksong and they're making Silksong. Not sure what that's supposed to convey

[violet path]

Ok tammo

[covert forge]

I would be shocked if there is a single kickstarter backer who actually cares like wasn't the original HK kickstarter ages ago?? and ^(they owe them Silksong and they're making Silksong.)

[fiery burrow]

This is the person that called Tammo a dog actually

[violet path]

LMAO

[versed pollen]

Woof for me Tammo

[warped umbra]

Woof

[wheat sail]

In reality I sent in my sleeper agents to argue everyday here until there is news

[whole mortar]

Is this ”patience of saints” in thw room with us now?

I’ve been here a while and a subset has a meltdown every time even they get news even. I got endless harassment and some threats from the r/ss crowd because the leth interview wasn’t enough for them when i was like 16

[versed pollen]

You ain't Tammo outta here

[iron spear]

12 is a decent group honestly and they all don't care. The are only like 300 people who even backed over that tier lol

[warped umbra]

I am not Tammo

[vivid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-simpleflips-spray-windex-clean-simpleflips-discord-gif-26585974

[violet path]

Actually tammos not even the one who said arguing in bad faith

[tame atlas]

Just saying that don't be surprised if people don't want to support any future Team Cherry product after Silksong is out. People including myself only really care this much about Silksong at this point because of Hollow Knight 1 and Sunk Cost fallacy

[wheat sail]

tammo using big words to act smart as usual. Death of america right here

[violet path]

I think i dont remember

[covert forge]

the silksong subreddit needs to be atomized
except for E1331 he's chill

[versed pollen]

I won't

[fiery burrow]

BlueSR so far this album is goated

[sinful flare]

i just checked this channel i think i saw a message get deleted

[violet path]

Ya man people are so mad that they cant play silksong that they wont play silksong 🔥

[sinful flare]

goodbye

[warped nacelle]

Wow kaan...

[fleet field]

i kinda understand why people are mad, but at the same time, just move on???

[tame atlas]

Also people are going to be extra critical of Silksong now because of this.

[whole mortar]

Leth is awesome and reached out after and made sure i was okay. But like if that happens anytime they do community interactions ofc theyre gonna stop

[iron spear]

Lmao. If they release insanely good games you well play them. They had ZERO fans before hollow knight it makes no difference. Good games sell themselves

[warped nacelle]

What why did this respond

[fleet field]

the game will release some day, just wait

[covert forge]

yeah this is true

[cold maple]

don’t bother Hipster, ur feelings are completely valid but this isn’t the place to express them

[violet path]

When your sample size is 12 and all 12 are speaking a certain way thats data

[fleet field]

being angry wont make the game release faster

[vivid belfry]

no graig, they will lose all their fans and gain negative fans because they didn't put out monthly blogposts

[whole mortar]

Thanks! It’s one of my favs. Speech bubbles is my favourite. The smile are a side project of Radiohead which you might also like

[wheat sail]

Errr prince of Persia allegedly

[tame atlas]

True but on the flip side if Silksong isn't basically perfect the internet is going to end up shitting on the game and team cherry "we waited 6 years for this?". Team Cherry put themselves in this situation.

[vivid belfry]

this is the first lesson at indie game dev college

[wheat sail]

Undersold

[warped umbra]

Finally a non-hot day in Australia I've been burning in my room every day

My room has such terrible temperature regulation

[vivid belfry]

you will do that, but I won't

[fleet field]

actually i was a fan since hungry knight( i discovered hk in 2023)

[covert forge]

like by any logical account TC hasn't done anything wrong, it would be nice to have more communication but it just fundamentally is not necessary or owed to us. They aren't "mistreating their community" by not giving us spoilers or anything. I just don't understand how the people mad at TC can't see how flawed/parasocial their thinking is

[sinful flare]

GRAIG IS HERE IM STAYING

[frank fable]

bro it's been raining where im at nonstop for the past week i wish there was a hot day here

[whole mortar]

Oh, haha. Still though! I think u should be proud of yourself that’s a big step ^^

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-in-flames-umineko-writing-in-flames-flames-gif-20892510

[violet path]

Actually i wont care

[warped umbra]

Can we stop locations temporarily

[tame atlas]

Thats fine I'm just saying thats how a lot of people will. I don't want the game to fail I'm just saying that how Team Cherry has treated the community is not OK and potentially has consequences

[whole mortar]

Yeah this is right on the mark

[versed pollen]

They are aware of the consequences, most certainly

[violet path]

Im pretty sure most people that actually use silksong discussion wont think that way

[vivid belfry]

they haven't treated the community any kind of way

[frank fable]

i wish 😔

[versed pollen]

If the game is good enough, people will buy. That's enough motivation for them

[whole mortar]

Plus the people who are upset arw a very loud very small minority

[vivid belfry]

they haven't said shit, which is actually normal for most game developers

[tame atlas]

You're wrong. If I'm right (I hope I'm not) and people start mercessly shitting on silksong for being "mid" you're probably gonna be bothred by it

[warped umbra]

I think you struggle to speak on behalf of people other than yourself

[woeful matrix]

how have they treated the community badly tho

[wheat sail]

Team cherry Glazers when they do favours for everyone and nobody acknowledges them

[violet path]

Well actually im right youre wrong get over it

[iron spear]

Silksong is going to blow everyone's minds. Trust me. HK was a rushed game for TC. Silksong is a masterpiece

[tame atlas]

Its called common sense and seeing how the gaming community reacts over stuff like this

[paper tinsel]

What even is this argument

[versed pollen]

People call things Toast likes shit all the time and he hasn't given a shit all this time

[tame atlas]

I hope you're right

[covert forge]

I reckon that when the game is actually semi-nearly done, they'll start doing more marketing. It makes more sense to start a lot of hype like a month or two before the game drops than try to keep hype going over the span of like 5 years. not 100% on that though but I think it makes sense

plus yeah good games sell themselves and silksong looks so damn good like MAN

[warped umbra]

I think this is minority sense man, still down to snort whatever you're snorting tho

[woeful matrix]

if hk is what tc can make while being poor and rushed than silksong will geniunely be a masterpiece

[outer temple]

This is unbelievable to me

[versed pollen]

r/Silksong will get their hands on this Graig....

[whole mortar]

I just hope they’re taking care of themselves this time around now that they have the funds to work, well, NOT 18 hours a day 7 days a week for years. Hope they’re taking it at a healthy pace with lots of breaks

[iron spear]

They are

[tame atlas]

I think the people who are hostile towards criticisms of team cherry are the kind of people who just want to follow who they consider "authority" figures or "idols"

[wispy widget]

We gettin GTA6 before Silk song

[whole mortar]

If the game takes years longer due to that that’s totally fine with me

[violet path]

Alright bye guys have fun dealing with whiney randoms ima go watch the ravens game

[woeful matrix]

bye bye

[warped umbra]

You will become a reddit post in 241 seconds

[covert forge]

oh no non o no not again

[versed pollen]

Shorter, surely

[fleet field]

are you allowed to say if silksong is at least 2x bigger than hk? or is that too much info

[weary tapir]

Graig if you ever get the chance can you ask them what lifeblood tastes like I’m using my one time

[wheat sail]

Some of these people be complaining about capitalism then defend their millionaire indie studio friends 🛌

[weary tapir]

I don’t care about release dates or anything I just wanna know what lifeblood tastes like

[woeful matrix]

thats a good use of a graig question

[cold maple]

parasocial cult of white knights, this is not the place to express dissatisfaction

[fiery burrow]

Ask them broken vessels gender

[iron spear]

It's incredibly delicious. That's why it's a sin to eat it

[vivid belfry]

bro you are the parasocial ones

[fiery burrow]

though I know the answer

[tame atlas]

Yeah and I know people are like "don't talk about this here this place is an echo chamber" its precisely because this place is an echo chamber is why it should be discussed here

[covert forge]

ain't no way you aren't ragebaiting by saying WE'RE the parasocial ones 😭

[lone crown]

It’s hard to compare sizes because Hornet’s mobility and speed would call for bigger-sized areas and level design

[vivid belfry]

you do not need constant correspondence from strangers to be happy

[wispy widget]

I’m beginning to think Silksong is just an elaborate psyops to see how dedicated fans are to 1 game

[whole mortar]

Also they have Jack Vine from the start now so it’s be super much more polished from the start also

[fiery burrow]

Projecting olympics

[weary tapir]

Answering gods greatest questions 🙏🙏

If we ever get an official answer on if it’s tangy, zesty, sour, sweet, or whatever I’ll actually cry. But for now I am overjoyed. Thank you

[whole mortar]

Jack’s imputs did wonders for hollow knight’s polish

[violet path]

Nevermind its half time

[iron spear]

They also have experience which they didn't before

[warped umbra]

I am merely content with my life and doing my hobbies and other things while a game is being made 🔥

[lone crown]

Plus they have the framework from experience making the first game

[static apex]

Hi Blue I like your youtube vidoes

[sinful flare]

im happy for Jack Vinesauce

[warped nacelle]

Is rocs odyssey gonna be mind blowing too

[tame atlas]

Yeah its so weird. The community helped make Hollow Knight a success inb4 "um.. TC made it a success cus they made the game :^)" true but if it didn't have such good word of mouth it wouldn't have gotten big. There are thousands of amazing indie games that are better than Hollow Knight that never got any wide recognition

[woven current]

the name of the game is hollow knight, not white knight silly

[sinful flare]

my faovirte streamer

[violet path]

Oh wait youre the real graig

[whole mortar]

No i’m a twitxh streamer so i do actually need that

[covert forge]

who's jack? don't actually know

[violet path]

Youre pretty cool 👍

[whole mortar]

V true v true

[iron spear]

I hope so.

[violet path]

Are you stupid

[tame atlas]

Like Nine Sols is better than Hollow Knight but its nowhere near as popular

[vivid belfry]

I think for silksong to register as a disappointment to me it would have to be like, 30 slots below hollow knight on my ranking list

[violet path]

In your opinion

[covert forge]

wait a second you're blue how did I not clock 💀 lmao

[violet path]

Thats a completely subjective statement

[paper tinsel]

Wait Graig you're making a game? How come I didn't know this I need to throw money at you immediately

[iron spear]

Kickstarter in March

[lone crown]

Graig when’s that kickstarter bro

[covert forge]

eh nine sols is pretty solid but I think hollow knight's gameplay and especially atmosphere are better, they both have their own merits w/o a doubt though

[fiery burrow]

Supporting a game isn't a personal relationship

[woeful matrix]

graig is making a game?

[sinful flare]

do you still want marketing for rocs odyssey

[tame atlas]

You're amazing at pointing out the obvious

[fiery burrow]

Nine Sols and Hollow Knight are both terrible

[cold maple]

who is you? do you see me complaining? i don’t care when these 2 humans release their passion project. But u don’t see me lording over those who do and have valid feelings on the matter, taking time out of my day to defend 2 australians who don’t know me

[tame atlas]

true my point is even though Nine Sols is fantastic its nowhere near as big as Hollow Knight so making a great game isn't always enough on its own

[violet path]

True

[iron spear]

Yeah I guess lol

[sinful flare]

ok i will constantly talk about how rocs odyssey will be the next silksong

[violet path]

Then why bring up an opinion presented as an objective statement that helps your argument

[vivid belfry]

I actually do see you complaining, that is the only thing about you I have ever known

[cold maple]

who even are you?

[whole mortar]

Ok bedtime gn everyone stay safe and comfy

[wheat sail]

roc kickstarter before silksong?

[violet path]

The goat, youre just a random though

[vivid belfry]

I'm Grover

[warped umbra]

Graig i will make you music and sound effects for ROCS 🔥

[fiery burrow]

ITS THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER KNOOOOOOWN

[tame atlas]

Why are you so overly aggressive and hostile towards anyone with even the slightest criticism towards Team Cherry

[cold maple]

hahahaha do you hear yourself in a discord?

[violet path]

How am i aggressive exactly, youre out here saying shit

[vivid belfry]

no, this isn't a voice call

[paper tinsel]

I'll be checking it out

[woeful matrix]

how would you hear yourself in discord its text

[sinful flare]

gn blue also when are we playing league of legends

[violet path]

I can read my own messages if thats what you mean?

[covert forge]

phenomenal

[cold maple]

wow u guys got me there

[warped nacelle]

Do you still play league at all kaan

[iron spear]

It's ok I have a guy. It's actually Chorister Larkins colleague

[cold maple]

kirbstar u stay in chat with these dorks?

[tame atlas]

I'm just speaking my mind about how I dislike how Team Cherry treats the community in my eyes. You and other people here just attacked me for having an opinion

[sinful flare]

season 15 is awesome

[violet path]

Brother

[warped nacelle]

Are you the kayn legend now

[violet path]

😭

[sinful flare]

no im an ornn god now

[fiery burrow]

Brother it is rage bait

[warped umbra]

Ayo nice

[tame atlas]

I'm not a man

[warped nacelle]

Wow... Ornn

[woeful matrix]

in what way do they treat the community bad

[sinful flare]

ornn gaming

[weary tapir]

Hypocritessaywhat

[violet path]

Brother and bro are totally gender neutral

[sinful flare]

and in jungle i just go hecarim but i sometimes go kayn still when i feel like it

[lone crown]

Wait stop now you’re gonna trigger a semantics argument

[vivid belfry]

they need to answer my texts or I think they're dead

[sinful flare]

they are but if people dont want you calling them that then you should respect it

[tame atlas]

The constant lack of even the most basic communication. Letting the community get itself hyped up all the time because we have no clue as to when this anticipated game comes out. Even Toby Fox, and the Hytale devs communicate

[vivid belfry]

this is emotional manipulation

[weary tapir]

I need daily updates for team cherry or I’ll go into financial ruin it’s true

[violet path]

So is girl but onlyif you say it like “gurlll”

[weary tapir]

“Letting the community get hyped up” they didn’t do that

[covert forge]

don't you get it if they don't remind us they're working on the game then it can only because they've secretly cancelled the project and are just leading us on for reasons

[vivid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-you-have-done-that-yourself-ewan-mcgregor-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-23659868

[tame atlas]

They released MULTIPLE trailers and even a gameplay trailer YEARS ago

[iron spear]

"letting us destroy ourselves" shame on them

[weary tapir]

What did they contribute to amplify the hype they have said FUCKING NOTHING

[paper tinsel]

Don't play victim no one's attacking anyone, they're just disagreeing with you

[weary tapir]

😭😭

[violet path]

Wait i have a gif for this

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-make-me-look-like-the-victim-gif-3081240632068787806

[covert forge]

"why doesn't team cherry give us news" "THEY GAVE US NEWS HOW COULD THEY"
(I get the point you're making though but still they had other reasons for releasing those trailers, I think it was due to a lot of misinfo at the time)

[tame atlas]

Oh be quiet. They have been attacking me they mocked me from the very first moment I said anything even slightly negative about TC

[violet path]

Ya im actually an evil person

[warped umbra]

The silksong situation community is crazy

[violet path]

Moist

[tame atlas]

No you're just extremely biased and narrow minded

[woven current]

#sk-discussion message
Listen to Kirb's advice

[violet path]

Sure am

[weary tapir]

You can disagree that’s fine but acting entitled is something else

[cold maple]

how are u guys touching grass if ur spending all ur time online telling people to touch grass? that’s strange

[woeful matrix]

people react like this because usually indie games are super transperant with their games and give content on it and updates
but not tc, let them do what they want ig. like damn i also want updates and shit on the game but not communicating isnt them treating the community bad

[warped nacelle]

You know it's not even about TC in particular, your opinion is just bad with any game example

[violet path]

Im outside touching it rn actually

[paper tinsel]

Excellent timing

[covert forge]

There's a difference between calling out flawed thinking and parasocial behaviour and attacking/mockery

[tame atlas]

The thing is you know its bad when other gaming communities are calling out TC's communication..

[fiery burrow]

I mock dumb people

[covert forge]

I have my pet plant on my windowsill :) (I call her Edward (It's commentary (I think)))

[iron spear]

Obviously they just don't want to give development updates. That's literally it. The end. Just wait till the game comes out. Stop getting mad like.... Just get over it.

[cold maple]

be present in the moment and enjoy the fresh air while it lasts

[violet path]

Attacking people is when you disagree with them

[weary tapir]

I don’t agree with their communication methods I don’t think anyone here agrees with team cherries communication methods but also we aren’t saying they’re “amplifying the hype” and “hurting fans” because they aren’t 😭😭

[woeful matrix]

great take

[violet path]

🫡

[cold maple]

we’re gonna need breathing masks soon

guys i just don’t understand u

[woeful matrix]

huh

[lone crown]

It’s okay to be frustrated with the way Team Cherry handles things, but you aren’t entitled to know anything. They could’ve stayed quiet for the entire six years, it’s a video game ffs

[cold maple]

u have a completely valid viewpoint

[covert forge]

dawg in no way is this "other gaming communities calling out TC's communication.." it's just a meme that we don't get news it's not an attack on TC

[violet path]

Can i screenshot this

[woven current]

Yes, since I am gonna release deadly neurotoxin all over this chat

[cold maple]

but how is feeling a typa way any less valid

they will do what they want and people will react how they will, not everyone is the same

i don’t see a true bad guy here

[warped umbra]

Everything graig says gets screenshot anyway

[vivid belfry]

because you're making yourself miserable for no reason

[tame atlas]

If I'm not entitled to know anything then TC is not entitled to understanding. Its called mutual respect. And the fanbase has been far more respectful to Team Cherry than the other way around

[fiery burrow]

I agree with Team Cherry's communication methods for the reason that we have a surplus of information and Silksong is a game about exploration and novelty.

Obviously, this is just an opinion, and not a moral evaluation of Team Cherry's decisions considering marketing and community interaction is not a moral issue

[weary tapir]

Graig I feel bad bc you say a single word and everyone instantly reports it everywhere

[woeful matrix]

tc doesnt know you bro they are a game development company bro

[cold maple]

have u seen the climate news? we’re cooked brother

[weary tapir]

That’s also true showing too much of the game will just be a detriment

[fleet field]

me when a 2/7 of a game comes out before a complete game

[weary tapir]

Like the more you know the less special the experience is

[covert forge]

if your feelings come from a line of thinking that is inherently flawed/harmful/parasocial then yeah it's not really valid to have them, it's okay to have them everyone makes mistakes sometimes but it doesn't mean you're immune from having the thought processes leading to those feelings be corrected

[weary tapir]

I have seen more of silksong than 99.99% of games I buy going in

[fiery burrow]

The paparazzi are right outside of Graig's front door rn

[tame atlas]

Its crazy how you people are always like "you're not entitled to anything!" but when people say the smallest criticism you're like "LEAVE THAT MILLION DOLLAR INDIE COMPANY ALONE!"

[weary tapir]

I’m upset I know what tools exist even

[violet path]

Thats what a discussion is actually, people expressing opinions

[covert forge]

Solid take(s)

[woeful matrix]

its crazy that i didnt say any of that shit

[frosty light]

@ unique @ unique @ unique @ unique @ unique

[vivid belfry]

nobody said TC is immune to criticism, your criticisms are just bad

[austere frigate]

Yes this, I don’t see any issues with being a bit peeved with how things have been. It’s not entitled, and it’s not bad to wish something was going the same way it (usually) does for other stuff. However, the folks acting like tc shot their dog and robbed them are obnoxious. It’s truly not worth getting seriously angry about, and it’s a bit annoying how people are still harping on about this whole thing. I’m just gonna go play something else while I wait. I sort of resigned myself to the idea that silksong is gonna take forever awhile ago

[tame atlas]

Its crazy that you don't know what a hyperbole is

[fiery burrow]

I miss unique

[vivid belfry]

you think I'm gonna let them off the hook for Markoth?

forget about it

[violet path]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-7657343964517710714

[tame atlas]

You argue like a 12 year old

[woeful matrix]

if tc messes up and does something bad, critisise them
if they do good, praise for it

[formal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

consider your watermark removed

[fiery burrow]

Markoth is the best dream warrior fight me

[median herald]

How many people are working on team cherry rn

[violet path]

Howd you do that do quick 😭

[violet path]

I wont

[vivid belfry]

I mean you can say that, but even in saying that you're just putting forth more argument without substance

[covert forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-lier-trending-gif-6708574292361340617

[formal marsh]

i had the version without the caption saved lol

[covert forge]

wait I didn't even mean to send that I clicked it by mistake 💀 whoops

[violet path]

You are a 12 year old

[violet path]

Well youre right so

[lone crown]

What’s the best dream warrior. Let’s settle this debate once and for all

[vivid belfry]

intellectual honesty just isn't on the table for people who like to show up in a discord and bitch about a videogame not having a release date

[violet path]

They hsve different music?

[tame atlas]

All I've been saying is that TC's communication is bad" its OK to express that

[vivid belfry]

why is it bad

[tame atlas]

"No U!" pathetic

[covert forge]

I like gorb's fight it does a very good job at the "simple concept that gets progressively more challenging while still being fun" thingymcbob

[covert forge]

"pathetic" pathetic

[woeful matrix]

no youve been complaining about how you DESERVE communication from them

[lone crown]

Fuck why do I actually like all the dream warriors. They’re all super simple yes but cool

[weary tapir]

That’s a nice argument… unfortunately I don’t care

[violet path]

You realize quotes are for when youre quoting something not making up what someone said

[warped umbra]

Pathetic is such a funny word in this context omg

[vivid belfry]

why do you need communication, why is it something you desire, why is it something you are owed and why is it a failure of the development team that they haven't provided it to you

[weary tapir]

I should call her

[violet path]

LETS DOO IT

[outer temple]

marmu

[fiery burrow]

They are all mediocre or subpar but Markoth requires good movement skills and good positioning. This is only really true on Ascended or Radiant though, since he is super squishy and weak otherwise

[violet path]

You should call me

[tame atlas]

Because its nonexistent! Hell the most recent communication clearing up the false ARG is them telling someone to tell us that its fake. They didn't even tell us themselves

[covert forge]

altogether subpar vibes is the FUNNIEST reason to ban someone I need to use that someday

[iron spear]

I'm used to it by now. I'm just speaking my personal opinion on the situation. I even understand the frustration. It would be nice to get info here and there. TC have clearly decided they don't want to do that. No need to get mad about it, just move on. The game is in development and will come out eventually. And it will be amazing!!!

[vivid belfry]

why is it a problem that it's nonexistent

[tame atlas]

Wow.. Wanting to ban me for having a different opinion

[lone crown]

They’ve popped in at every event to whine and start shit 😭

[rustic ore]

yall ping me when chat isn't lame anymore

[formal marsh]

we got #sk-discussion regulars trying to get back with their exes before silksong

[vivid belfry]

is it because other dev teams do it differently?

who cares

[violet path]

Actually just for being annoying

[tame atlas]

You're a bad person...

[weary tapir]

I trust you I’m sure you’re right on this

[warped nacelle]

I'll ping u when mh releases

[violet path]

Should rebound to me instead

[woven current]

it's in his name

[lone crown]

No shit. The Evil in Evil Dolm is there for a reason you know

[violet path]

Thats what my ex said

[formal marsh]

i'm sure i'm a minority but i actually do appreciate you reassuring us that the game is going to be good

[weary tapir]

Everyone why the fuck do we care so much when monster hunter wilds is right around the corner

[fiery burrow]

Okay... I've leave....

[weary tapir]

Just play that for a billion hours

[formal marsh]

mid hunter wilds

[tame atlas]

Coming from you thats a compliment

[formal marsh]

i'd rather play a game that actually requires skill like genshin impact

[weary tapir]

!!!!!!!

[violet path]

Who cares about silksong when the ravens are losing right now

[covert forge]

you know what other games has Wilds in the title and everyone should play

[warped nacelle]

😢

[violet path]

You dont even know me

[covert forge]

https://tenor.com/view/outer-wilds-gif-22858957

[vivid belfry]

The Outer Worlds

[weary tapir]

I don’t wanna talk about football after the lions last night

[frosty light]

"which of course means absolutely everyone but myself."

[covert forge]

ding ding ding ✅

[weary tapir]

I’m actually so beyond upset

[woven current]

Breath of the Wilds

[cold maple]

I just played witcher 3 for the first time

[tame atlas]

The little I know about you from our interaction today makes me not want to know you

[warped nacelle]

How could you say that lune

[formal marsh]

I was simply being silly. I do not know much about Monster Hunter Wilds to criticize it.

[cold maple]

man that game was good

[formal marsh]

forgive me

[violet path]

a win for me

[warped nacelle]

Muting this jinx pfp NOW

[fiery burrow]

DUDE I WANT REVAMPED INSECT GLAIVE SO BAD

[covert forge]

I spat water everywhere when I read this goddamit you really are evil

[vivid belfry]

I know it's a monster hunter game so it's good, and I know my computer won't be able to run it because look at the fucking thing

[formal marsh]

HER NAME IS POWDER

[warped nacelle]

Powder actually ig

[lone crown]

How could a man with this face ever upset you

[warped umbra]

He's just a chill guy

[woeful matrix]

he shot me in the head when i was 4

[trim estuary]

LIKE THE FORTNITE SKIN???

[warped nacelle]

Damn I could t correct myself before your msg

[covert forge]

is this Harold?

[warped nacelle]

It's over

[trim estuary]

That is Wilbo.

[covert forge]

How funky!

[formal marsh]

this means i won the argument

[tame atlas]

What does he even do at this point? Is he even still being paid?

[fiery burrow]

RE engine isn't exactly optimized for open games

[lone crown]

????????

[cold maple]

did u guys see that vampire game that the witcher 3 director is making? it looks like Blood and Wine but a whole game

[lone crown]

Do you know who that is

[violet path]

I wish joker was here he makes things better

[trim estuary]

I KNOW RIGHT

[tame atlas]

nvm confused him for someone else

[lone crown]

Oh lmfao

[warped nacelle]

Real 😔

[violet path]

I no righth

[tame atlas]

I was thinking of Matthew Griffin

[woeful matrix]

these mods should get back to work on ss insteead of moderating this discord smh my head

[vivid belfry]

Leth ate my dog

[violet path]

Matthew patrick

[warped umbra]

Leth divorced my parents

[covert forge]

alright I'm gonna go to sleep night fazgang and fazfriends

[violet path]

Bye friend

[paper tinsel]

Thinking that Leth doesn't do anything just because TC doesn't drop Silksong news is insane

[trim estuary]

Springtrap’s partner??

[cold maple]

i mean, he literally can’t do much right now

[formal marsh]

Did you know? The Hollow Knight discord is the first server

[warped umbra]

Its almost like lack of object permeance

[young saffron]

Yo guys, leth divorced my parents :(

[warped nacelle]

An angel

[formal marsh]

me when the guy hired to manage the community doesnt give news about the game (the developers choose the news they want to let him give)

[warped umbra]

Leth married my parents

[fiery burrow]

Leth's job is to manage everything not directly related to game-dev not just community stuff

[rustic ore]

ugh as soon as ppl start coming back to the house the internet gets like four times worse and unnecessarily loud. god i want to move out

[violet path]

Yaaa i knowww

[young saffron]

stop rubbing it in my face

[formal marsh]

come live in the forest

[rustic ore]

that requires getting my shit together

[warped umbra]

He divorced them before marrying them

[fiery burrow]

How come most humans can talk it seems like a glaring oversight from the devs

[rustic ore]

TRUE

[young saffron]

does this mean my future is positive

[cold maple]

so i take it none of u are fans of the silksong subreddit? is there a cross community in here

i’m actually not in the loop that much

[woeful matrix]

who tf is a fan of that subreddit

[rustic ore]

No. None of r/Silksong deserves Silksong atp

[warped umbra]

Your future is your own fate, you make it positive and amazing 🔥

[young saffron]

im a fan

[formal marsh]

leth shot me point-blank. i almost died.

[violet path]

Hiii

[warped umbra]

I really wish the sub could be deleted

[rustic ore]

omg toast hi hi toast hi hi hi

[fiery burrow]

Someone posted a cute Silksong x Bloodborne comic there the other day

I think they deserve 10 copies of Silksong

[rustic ore]

They can have a little Silksong, then. As a treat.

[formal marsh]

i linked it here

[warped nacelle]

Id still pay Leth even if he didn't do anything cause he has such a cool hat

[fiery burrow]

how much would you pay for that hat

[tame atlas]

I know this is the official silksong discord but its kind of surreal. Everywhere on the internet people are getting tired of Team Cherry but its only here that people will call fans entitled

[austere frigate]

Oh boy

[paper tinsel]

Not everywhere on the internet, ever heard of echo chambers

[austere frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[tame atlas]

"ever heard of echo chambers" yeah I'm in one right now apparently

[warped umbra]

What a kind man

Thank you Steve James

[frosty light]

im not sure what you mean, tc already is not and would not be entitled to anything from us, right (i mean, other than whatd apply to a random stranger anyway)? i dunno what youre referring to with understanding, but the existence of hk and or ss doesnt make us owe them anything, we've just presumably already given them some stuff voluntarily. like, if everyone whos ever played hk suddenly went "yeah actually im not gonna play any of these games ever again or reference them or literally pay any attention to them at all" then that would be that

[rustic ore]

wow incredible! how do i do that, o wise bot?

[frosty light]

fuck wait

[lone crown]

Where is everywhere? Reddit?

Oh wait nvm

[tame atlas]

Twitter, 4chan, other gaming forums

[woeful matrix]

its just the reddit that hates tc for some reason

[cold maple]

i don’t think silksong subreddit or this discord have proper balance, they’re both heavily skewed in the opposite direction

[woeful matrix]

and twitter prob but thats expected from twitter

[cold maple]

coming from a middle man

[frosty light]

ok done

[coarse leaf]

uhhhhh

[tame atlas]

twitter is the largest online community and people are already getting fed up with TC

[warped umbra]

Because they think TC intentionally trolled because wilbo shitposted like he has been for the past FEW YEARS on an account completely unrelated to silksong or TC

[coarse leaf]

uhhhhhhhhh

[woeful matrix]

twitter is a fucking cesspool of hate and bs no wonder they are hating

[paper tinsel]

I use Twitter a lot and haven't seen a single post of anyone talking about Silksong cake

[coarse leaf]

redditors acting entitled? mythical concept if you ask me

[fiery burrow]

Can we bring back the 3 minutes slowmode

[woeful matrix]

i think the reddit calmed down mostly tho

its not that bad tdy

[coarse leaf]

nah make it 15 seconds

[tame atlas]

You're confusing random gamers on twitter with right wing weirdos on twitter..

[warped umbra]

The shitpost did not even have to do with silksong, it was just a random ass shitpost

[violet path]

10

[fiery burrow]

Thats not enough

[violet path]

No thats just all of twitter that sucks

[rustic ore]

You’re gonna be in one wherever you go on the internet.

Also, we’re like that because 99% of the time we’re not even talking Silksong because there’s nothing TO talk about and go on with our lives until we get news. Meanwhile places like r/Silksong get ridiculously riled up over small shit, all the time.

That same energy is carried from there to this server, where people expect to have the same energy given back to them, but when they don’t get it, they get mad when we’re not generally like that and call them “entitled”.

[coarse leaf]

they've entered the depression stage so they're calmly crying

[tame atlas]

Yeah like Discord is a paragon of gentlemanly and civil discussion.. Its so weird to me how some sites and platforms will be like "twitter is awful and reddit is awful" when they're just as bad.

[violet path]

It is when youre not here

[warped umbra]

Gentlemanly

[coarse leaf]

basically the internet sucks ass in general

[lone crown]

Well yes, yes it is, until people start discussing anything related to TC communication or this drama

[violet path]

We usually have very civil discussions when the silk whiners arent flooding the server

[violet path]

That emoji got me dying bro 😭

[coarse leaf]

all platforms give anonymity, which means all platforms have a bunch of jerks on them

[paper tinsel]

Can someone link me any Twitter post shitting on Silksong that's making numbers rn

[tame atlas]

if me having a mild take is enough to turn this place from "peaceful" to hostile and chaotic then maybe I'm not the true problem here

[violet path]

Tiktoks usually pretty nice and funny

[coarse leaf]

whos gonna tell bro

[leaden delta]

It’s TWITTER

[warped umbra]

I think everyone is pretty calm here bud we're all just shitposting

[lone crown]

Notice how everyone else seems to disagree? Probably a coincidence

[tame atlas]

and? In practice its no different than discord or reddit but some people pretend it is. Its just weird tribalism

[violet path]

It is

well at least funny

[formal marsh]

it was already unbanned

[tame atlas]

What makes you think I need people to agree with me in order to speak my mind?

[lone crown]

That's not what I meant

[coarse leaf]

im not even american idc about the ban the platform itself has awful people like any other

[frosty light]

im thinking more from before r/silksong was ever a relevant (existent?) thing. even back in 2021, whenever a major gaming event rolled up the chat would get flooded for a while and its often p toxic when that happens. i think its primed people to expect the worst from people whenever a new community silkism takes place

[paper tinsel]

The Twitter algorithm rewards you for spreading hate

Because it's polarizing, and makes views

[trim estuary]

Reddit algorithm rewards you for fearmongering

[tame atlas]

and discord rewards you for following the herd

[frosty light]

BASEDBASEDBASED

[fiery burrow]

Discord is a different ecosystem

[woeful matrix]

best thing i found on the reddit

[formal marsh]

BASED PRIMACON????? FINALLY

[trim estuary]

Discord has no rewards, there’s no view or like system

[leaden delta]

twitter rewards negative stuff and as such its general

[violet path]

Its awful

[leaden delta]

I’d look more to stuff like this server to get a more accurate view maybe?

not to say all people are bad on twitter right but that site breeds negativity and has been

[tame atlas]

The "reward" is social. Discord is notorious for having a groupthink clique culture. Why do you think Discord moderator is an insult all over the internet?

[woeful matrix]

lmaooo

[rustic ore]

fr. this is a real-time chatroom, not everyone wants to have a goddamn argument over the same three topics ad infinitum. me personally, i wanna talk about fruit right now

[limber parcel]

Day number I forgor of waiting for silksong news

[formal marsh]

please tell me this is real it would be so fucking funny

[lone crown]

Reminder that we have absolutely no idea where this is. A new area we haven't seen literally at all except for this boss

[warped umbra]

Not for this reason, they're portrayed as obese neckbeards not groupthinkers

[formal marsh]

link the reddit post please

[woeful matrix]

alr

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1i5e4ei/well_primacon_was_a_little_rude_to_me_today/#lightbox

[limber parcel]

Crab?

[versed pollen]

If Primacon confirms these images are real I'm subscribing to his channel immediately

[trim estuary]

TOOOLS

[woeful matrix]

i hope its real it would be so peak

[leaden delta]

yea and that is true

[fiery burrow]

https://tiermaker.com/create/ultimate-fruit-tier-list---labeled-183857

[formal marsh]

oh its faked

[leaden delta]

idk I just do not like Twitter

[lone crown]

I used to hate primacon, but he's slowly redeemed himself

[versed pollen]

NOOOOO

[leaden delta]

I would not listen to negativity n stuff

[woeful matrix]

damn still funny tho

[leaden delta]

generally

[formal marsh]

yeah its hilarious

[lone crown]

Nevermind he is not redeemed

[quartz cave]

Chattt i finally got johnnys nameplate om rivals i am so jolly

[merry ledge]

Chat what if 2 abril comes and nothing happens?

[digital junco]

my twitter is tamed to be all cool art and funny posts so im safe

[versed pollen]

Then there was no news that day

[violet path]

Wait what is he in rivals

[quartz cave]

HES GONNA BE SOON

[tame atlas]

The POINT is that every platform has good and bad things. And to be like "their opinion doesn't matter is because they post on insert platform here is intellectually dishonest and just an example of irrational tribalism

[quartz cave]

I need him

[violet path]

Honestly this seasons been way less fun than last season

The rank reset was a bitch

[quartz cave]

Yeah that sucked

Dooms match tho:

[frosty light]

😡

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys still 5 seconds huh...

[lone crown]

Wait William's the one who coded Markoth

[atomic sparrow]

in due time i will regain my full strength,,,

[frosty light]

maybe not but we have a free pass to claim he did!!!!!

[woeful matrix]

this is correct because i made it

[lone crown]

I expect the very earth to tremble once Silksong gets a date

[leaden delta]

oh yea i frogot abt the indie tierlist from earlier

[paper tinsel]

Tribalism exists on Twitter in a much larger capacity, that's how the platform performs and even more after recent changes

[formal marsh]

true... team cherry's reputation is rock bottom.. everyone hates them now...

[leaden delta]

we're not done with it but here's what we have so far (we stopped for now)

[formal marsh]

i hear that HK fans that run into ari and william IRL now purposefully try to get away from them

[woeful matrix]

cuphead in decent i dont see the vision

[loud lily]

among us in absolute cinema pls

[woeful matrix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1i4dauv/the_truth_about_everydruidwaswr_and_ndas/ read this absolute peak of copium

[loud lily]

true.....

[formal marsh]

is that furina

theres no way

[frosty light]

its gonna be another fucking junk pit moment 😔

[versed pollen]

Imagined this as a caption over the CoD guy

[formal marsh]

would fit really well honestly

[versed pollen]

To be fair this is a pretty small sample size

[tame atlas]

If the NDA theory is real why doesn't it apply to Toby Fox?

[paper tinsel]

This is such a true disrespect I'll try it when I'm in Australia if I don't get eaten by a giant spider

[woeful matrix]

what does this even mean

[lone crown]

People like this make me depressed

[versed pollen]

Why

[tame atlas]

I mean Toby Fox told his fans explicitely that Chapter 3 & 4 will release in 2025

[formal marsh]

i love how people think william got hyped and accidentally broke the NDA
if that had happened, he wouldnt have gone through the trouble of finding a cake image that traces back to april 2nd purposefully

[paper tinsel]

What even is the NDA theory

[cold maple]

Lune i’m gonna guess you’re a big arcane fan?

[woeful matrix]

nintendo made nda with tc and they accidentaly revealed too much and now say that the 'arg' is fake

[cold maple]

did you see that Noxus cinematic

[formal marsh]

you know how leth literally disproved the april 2nd ARG theory? the NDA theory is that TC was actually under an NDA with nintendo and wasn't allowed to disclose anything, but broke the NDA and is now trying to backpedal

[woeful matrix]

its as stupid as it sounds

[cold maple]

i’m hype for the Noxus show

[formal marsh]

i didnt actually, is it a teaser for a next show?

i assumed it was for the game honestly

[tame atlas]

I liked Arcane Season 1 but I didn't like season 2 because of how they handled Vi's character. It unironically makes me wish it kep the "Vi has amnesia" lore that the game originally had.

[woeful matrix]

ok? and

[cold maple]

oh it’s for the league game but i think it’s a tease for their show as well

[fiery burrow]

William got drunk (Hence him setting his twitter name to a red wine brand) and accidentally leaked the Switch 2 direct date

[cold maple]

not a trailer but just a look at Noxus

[leaden delta]

Obviously the style overall is really damn good and impressive, but it doesn’t really do anything for either of us

[tame atlas]

Also I'm a lesbian and season 2 somehow made me hate CaitVi 💀

[pale marten]

dead cells in trash is absolutely vile.

[formal marsh]

me when i get drunk and leak the sensitive information i have by finding an image that traces back to a specific date

[formal marsh]

i'll check it out, thanks

[fiery burrow]

Cuphead isn't super fun but it is a vibe

[lone crown]

Why.

[woeful matrix]

people dont realise that if tc broke an nda with nintendo the ninjas would go after them

[cold maple]

i have a lot of gripes with s2 but i let it go, it’s over

[leaden delta]

it’s not anything exceptionally special, imo
not in comparison to the other games above

[cold maple]

we move on to bigger things

[warped rock]

cuphead is just a party game for me

[frosty light]

me omw to finally make use of my napoleon trivia

[cold maple]

i’m super hype for Noxus

[leaden delta]

Cuphead didn’t leave an imprint on either of us

[cold maple]

i don’t play the game but Noxus looks cool as fuck

[formal marsh]

hey ive seen this youtuber before
their content is slop and i dont remember anything other than that

[tame atlas]

True but the sad thing its can't be forgotten since Arcane is so popular it overwrote League of Legends lore cus Riot decided to just treat everything in Arcane as canon

[paper tinsel]

Wtf

[leaden delta]

For narl specifically it was just “oh that game was good” and nothing else

and that’s why Cuphead is so low

[quiet knot]

Wazzup

[leaden delta]

Specifically current dead cells btw

[quiet knot]

Gamers!

[leaden delta]

if it was on release narl would’ve put that game in like cinema or smth

[woeful matrix]

wait why do people hate current dead cells what happened

[tame atlas]

Original Viktor is cooler than Arcane Viktor.

[pale marten]

It's still great lmao what?

[leaden delta]

what abt it?

[formal marsh]

i have to disagree

[quiet knot]

I agree

What does "huh" mean

[austere frigate]

Aren’t people mad at motion twin

[lone crown]

Nah its okay, opinions are opinions
I just got whiplash from seeing dead cells in trash

[lone crown]

Yeah, motion twin sucks ass. They did evil empire dirty

[tame atlas]

fair. But its crazy to me how they changed him from the machine herald to herald of the arcane and retconned him making Blitzcrank...

[austere frigate]

For like, killing the game before evil empire wanted to stop

[woeful matrix]

context please im out of the loop

[austere frigate]

Yeah ok

[leaden delta]

lol lore stuff but now it’s basically just the incredible tier

[quiet knot]

I see

[leaden delta]

Void stranger is better than all of those I trust my gf

but my fav two games are outer wilds and stp

[fiery burrow]

Void stranger OST goes hard

[quiet knot]

I have that on my wishlist too

[quiet knot]

It sucks I didnt really enjoy Outer Wilds that much

Not my kinda game

[past mantle]

Wat stp

[austere frigate]

Hat in time should be cinema imo

[lone crown]

Motiontwin let evil empire handle content and updates for Dead Cells since 2019. Motiontwin still owns the IP, but evil empire did all the work that prolonged the game's life cycle. Despite evil empire having more plans for the game, motiontwin decides to abruptly cease all dead cells content updates for the sake of the new game, windblown

[quiet knot]

Slay the Princess, visual novel

[past mantle]

Oooh I played that was very good

[woeful matrix]

wtf thats terrible

[quiet knot]

Mhm

[past mantle]

Didn't they add more content or something to it recently

[lone crown]

It got shelved

[leaden delta]

Pristine Cut

[past mantle]

Need to check that out

[swift sand]

both are cool, but like

[formal marsh]

@cold maple oh my god it's great

[swift sand]

arcane viktor imo

[leaden delta]

its very good

[paper tinsel]

Evil Empire is currently developing The Rogue Prince of Persia, it's pretty good imo check it out

[formal marsh]

OH NO THEY MADE VLADMIR HOT

[swift sand]

outer wilds pfp spotted

[past mantle]

Was the first game in a while I became emotionally invested tbh

[ripe cliff]

he sounds like prince charming from shrek

[leaden delta]

With all due respect, that game is not as good as everything else in the upper tier

[fiery burrow]

How does Red Apple even get to D

The rest of the list is respectable though

[rustic ore]

Red Apple if Honeycrisp/Gala = B
Red Apple if Red Delicious = F

[swift sand]

green apple being in b is an affront to god

[rustic ore]

Granny Smiths are the shit

[fiery burrow]

oh

[swift sand]

everything else is fair game tho

[leaden delta]

A long fucking time actually

[paper tinsel]

[lone crown]

EoSD on that list is cool

[woeful matrix]

way too long

[fiery burrow]

I usually have honeycrisp i wasn't considering other types

[past mantle]

Avoid durian

[fiery burrow]

Whose alt is this

[woeful matrix]

holy shit you are slow

[swift sand]

ye...i think thats an issue for like

[leaden delta]

hiring more people would potentially throw off their vision of the game

[swift sand]

every indie game

[leaden delta]

I get their logic

[fiery burrow]

If they hired Shigeru Miyamoto the game would be good

[leaden delta]

both narl and I played it

[woeful matrix]

bro if tc is taking so long to make the game why not just make it faster

[lone crown]

TC treats games as an artistic passion project, not a business where they want to work as quickly as possible to push out content.

[versed pollen]

Not true

[cold maple]

I KNOW IM HYPE FOR THE SHOW

[leaden delta]

it’s not anything that good it’s still rough

[austere frigate]

I would disagree tbh, one of if not my favorite 3d platformer

[lone crown]

And even still they work abnormally fast as a 3-man team according to graig

[cold maple]

i think it’ll be better than arcane

[frosty light]

[versed pollen]

I dunno what games they made because I don't remember these things but I bet they all suck

[cold maple]

at least i’ll prefer it

[austere frigate]

But subjectivity and all that

[rustic ore]

if they hired Sakurai Silksong might be good

[frosty light]

oh wait (NOT)

[versed pollen]

:shralse:

[leaden delta]

part of the reason of why I put pcb on the list is because I wanted an actually good touhou game there

[fiery burrow]

OK I was replaying Super Mario Bros. earlier today and it is so much worse than I remember its actually insane how much better SMB2 and SMB3 and all subsequent titles are

[rustic ore]

(Mario)

[swift sand]

thats....

dense

[ripe cliff]

..yes?

[leaden delta]

YES DAWG

[versed pollen]

I have never played a Mario game before so they must all suck

[past mantle]

Guessing you don't code with a team lmfao

[leaden delta]

and u also need for ideas n stufff its not just code

[woeful matrix]

the fact that idk if you are ragebaiting says alot about this community

[fiery burrow]

Do you live in the 1800s

[paper tinsel]

This is such a misunderstanding of how coding works because having more people working on the same code can potentially slow down the process

[ripe cliff]

the more people you hire the more management is required to preserve the original vision, which can actually slow down the process/make their workflow less efficient

[swift sand]

also not just code... art music sound areas and thats all not even including actual game design philosophy

[versed pollen]

No I live in the year of our lord five thousand eight hundred and fourty two

[cold maple]

Leblanc redesign is chef’s kiss

i saw her original one and it was god awful

[swift sand]

cough ragebait cough ACK

[cold maple]

gooner bait

[lone crown]

L ragebait

[tame atlas]

As a Leblanc fan I love both

[rustic ore]

you gotta remember that old LeBlanc was made in the same era as old Caitlyn

[swift sand]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[lone crown]

Baiter! Baiter! More bait please!

[tame atlas]

I'm confused as to why they made Ambessa a character though if she's just dead... Feels like a wasted character slot.

[frosty light]

then WHY did they leave markoth in hk 😡

[fiery burrow]

Hiring more people could feasibly speed up the process, but working with a medium-sized or large team is undoubtedly different from working with a small one. It all comes down to preference

It means less time directly making the game more time managing the team

[rustic ore]

Ambessa was in the works like immediately after Arcane's first season

[fiery burrow]

I did not say anything about vision please reread what I claimed

[marsh ibex]

HOLY FUCK

ZELDA IS SHEIK?????

[woeful matrix]

😲

[frosty light]

WHAT

[rustic ore]

WHAT

[frosty light]

THE FUCK

[fiery burrow]

No I've fought Zelda as Shiek in Smash Bros so that doesn't really work

[lone crown]

WHYD YOU SPOIL IT FOR ME

[frosty light]

joker :(((((((((((((

[lone crown]

FUCK YOU

[leaden delta]

spoilers ☹️

[ripe cliff]

I swear i've seen them both in the same room....

[marsh ibex]

Why would they bother?

[tame atlas]

I hope the Noxus show is good and doesn't ruin Riven or Leblanc or any other Noxus character I love

[swift sand]

its obviously feasible with, say, a AAA studio that has the budget and kinda needs to push out a game as fast as possible because thats the nature of that industry for the most part, but saying that a group of friends needs to expand their friend circle for a passion project just because you need a game out asap

[frosty light]

(why did you say that )

[fiery burrow]

But if they don't want to they won't

[swift sand]

is really rather dense

anyhow bye yall

[fiery burrow]

Clearly they don't want to and thats where any sort of conversation regarding the topic ends

[rustic ore]

GUYS HOLY SHIT NEW TITANFALL GAUNTLET WR JUST DROPPED

[marsh ibex]

that’s just someone else they have to pay and deal with + more opportunities for stuff about the fame they don’t want getting out

[lone crown]

"Because I cannot wait for game any longer"

[marsh ibex]

playing oot3d

[austere frigate]

I still haven’t watched arcane and my friend continually telling me to watch it almost makes me want to not watch it out of spite

[ripe cliff]

Their small-team workflow worked out for HK on a limited budget. I'm not sure why developing Silksong would suddenly become an issue for them

[lone crown]

Baiter! Baiter! More bait please!

[tame atlas]

The trailer was super cool though its cool that Darius can canonically hold True Ice even for a little. Because lore wise touching true ice should have killed him instantly.

[violet path]

BOOO

[versed pollen]

Praise be to our lord and savior Blizzard Entertainment

[woeful matrix]

so real bru all theyve been doing these past 6 years is just look at their phones and violate nintendo ndas smh my head

[rustic ore]

Darius consistently proving to be the Him of Noxus

[marsh ibex]

calm down bro you do not need to be slinging insults because they won’t hire more people

[leaden delta]

no thats wrd

[fiery burrow]

I don't quite understand why you care

[shell yacht]

No fuckin way

[past mantle]

Ah pray share your insider knowledge of why silksong is taking this long and how you are sure there's no good reasons at all.

[fiery burrow]

They can do what they want they have autonomy, you just seem to want the game as soon as possible

[swift sand]

...says the guy who hasnt played the game and has no sense for what the scale of the game might even be

[rustic ore]

No damage-boosting

[violet path]

Expert on game making here

[lone crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-886916876512866984

Anyway

[woeful matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY

[marsh ibex]

Well in a theoretical universe where this happens you might be right
Otherwise you’re just talking random and insulting devs for no good reason
kindly cease

[leaden delta]

I also don’t think they’re under any obligation to

[fiery burrow]

Also it should go without saying that the time spent on a project and the amount of effort it takes does not directly correlate

[swift sand]

my god i should have used that

[tame atlas]

I wonder if Briar will be in the Noxus show. I love her. But I'm afraid of what the writers will do to her.

[violet path]

Cease AND desist

[surreal remnant]

Because you're an extremely experienced and well known game developer right?

[leaden delta]

wait how long did hk take

[versed pollen]

Maybe they'll have a scene with people cooking and eating her alive

[leaden delta]

wasn’t it like 3 years

[marsh ibex]

HK wasn’t even finished upon release lol it was buggy and had several content packs that actually made it finished

[woeful matrix]

idk but it was rushed

[rustic ore]

i hope she's not tbh. maybe a cameo at best but nah

[leaden delta]

ah yea true

[frosty light]

they havent been able to work out the last boss yet since none of the playtesters have been able to beat it since 2022 :\

[lone crown]

Who's the artist responsible for these by the way? I'm not into whatever it is you're discussing but the artworks are pretty

[marsh ibex]

if you take into account the dlc crap it isnMt that much time lag between ss’s creation

[leaden delta]

3 years AND it was still rushed

[surreal remnant]

Silksong is different, it needs to be largely bug free and polished upon release or it'll flop

[shell yacht]

Holy shit

[swift sand]

cough its a fuggin indie game passion project by a group of friends who in any case are not obliged to increase their friend circle for it cough

[leaden delta]

it’s not that crazy to see 6 or 7 years honestly

[fiery burrow]

Notably Hollow Knight had severe problems regarding variety and combat during release and after it

[woeful matrix]

as someone who has been developing and releasing games for 10 millennia tc is a bunch of lazy bums

[lone crown]

The free dlc only existed because they couldnt finish hollow knight in time

[tame atlas]

its the official character art for league characters.

[violet path]

TRYE

[marsh ibex]

Again, I would rather you not keep insulting people or I’ll have to moderate

[surreal remnant]

"DLC" is such a misnomer

[leaden delta]

oh wow

[lone crown]

Yeah

[cold maple]

hahaha yeah old caitlyn was bad

[lone crown]

Free content updates*

[swift sand]

which they had to do bcs they already announced the hornet dlc

[woeful matrix]

how is dlc a misnomer

[ripe cliff]

that's clearly not what they did

[lone crown]

Baiter! Baiter! More bait please!

[woeful matrix]

downloadable content is the same as free content update

[past mantle]

Baiter be baiting

[tame atlas]

If they do add Briar I hope they keep her quirky side while also differentiating her from Jinx I don't want her to be super serious

[marsh ibex]

me when the dlc gets turned into a full game (it’s tc’s fault they’re lazy)

[past mantle]

Sad how some have nothing to contribute

[cold maple]

I’m more hype to see Swain than anyone else in Noxus

[woeful matrix]

just that dlcs are usually paid. but thats just a paid dlc

[fiery burrow]

Its not bait they just seem to be delusional

[cold maple]

i suspect Riven will be the main character of the show

[swift sand]

why not both?

[shell yacht]

If you keep spouting bs you're just gonna get muted

Only warning

[tame atlas]

You mean lucius malfoy

[leaden delta]

that’s fair, I just can’t see it with that group of games

[surreal remnant]

not when the additional content is added so seamlessly it becomes hard to draw the line between DLC and Not, and when it's incorporated into the normal updates, so you are unable to update the game without including the "DLC"

[marsh ibex]

Already told em that

[leaden delta]

esp with like rabbit hole or noita or pony island

[surreal remnant]

uh oh, mom and dad are fighting

[swift sand]

digs hole deeper

[past mantle]

It's a video game, go visit your nearest field

[heady iron]

I'm angry too

[lone crown]

Joker's the mother right

[marsh ibex]

insults people and spreads what amounts to misinformation

I’m just mad how is this my fault

[shell yacht]

Why aren't they muted then

[heady iron]

for other reasons

[swift sand]

marvels at all the shit he managed to dig

[surreal remnant]

Correct.

[marsh ibex]

Because I told them that after they said what you replied to dingus

[woeful matrix]

marvel rivals refrence

[austere frigate]

I got probably an even amount of enjoyment out of it as I did inscryption. Speaking of putting Mullins in the upper echelons is based

[fiery burrow]

Hidden Dreams and especially Grimm Troupe and Godmaster were not integrated seamlessly though

[tame atlas]

I'm really excited to see Elise in noxus thoguh

[surreal remnant]

i think mom and dad are getting divorced

[swift sand]

and, while digging his hole deeper, its really full of shit, "hot damn! i didnt dig this its society's fault!"

[fiery burrow]

Hey can I have my Me When Beans wall back for future use

[leaden delta]

Those games are SO SO SO SO FUCKING GOOD

[woeful matrix]

thats still a dlc tho... it jsut means downloadable content

[whole grove]

cough cough
cuphead took 7 years to release and that games content is like almost steam refund applicable amount of time

[austere frigate]

One of the best devs working rn, might be my favorite

[frosty light]

im sure this is at least somewhat hyperbolic, but they said theyd been working on the game for "well over a year" when the 2019 trailer came out, if thats what you mean. admittedly half of that included godmaster development mixed in there, but still

[rustic ore]

it's pretty easy to differentiate the two: jinx is mentally unstable, but clearly has regret and remorse and base human emotions, Briar is a complete bloodthirsty psychopath for the love of the game (also because of Vlad experiments but that's neither here nor there ). jinx isnt gonna be going on rampages because she had a rare steak by accident

[woeful matrix]

free content update and dlc are the exact same thing

[shell yacht]

Speed tie?

[surreal remnant]

denotation vs conotation, would you call minecraft's updates DLCs?

[marsh ibex]

almost like just slapping more developers doesn’t mean the game gets made faster lol

[lone crown]

If anything it could cause more confusion/disagreement

[past mantle]

It's OK to be disappointed, but getting mad solves nothing

[lone crown]

The bigger they are the harder they fall

[surreal remnant]

sure you can, but it just causes confusion, like how we end up with people asking how they access specific DLCs (gods and glory being an exception but whatever)

[tame atlas]

I don't think Briar is a psychopath she wants friends.

[marsh ibex]

i want friends

[heady iron]

team cherry should hire me

[warped rock]

Why say "lalalala I'm working kn the game" instead of just working on the game

[swift sand]

thats obviously true, but no need to like... do whatever the hell you're doing rn

[valid sable]

Friends are the Silksongs we made along the way

[violet path]

I’ll be your friend

[swift sand]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[marsh ibex]

Aren’t you a minor

[woeful matrix]

no because they are meant to be just additions to the base game and nothing else. (i have no clue what im saying)

[violet path]

Minors can be friends with majors

[austere frigate]

I ain’t defending the one guy but to be fair cupheads art is probably more intensive than anything anyone else has ever done in games, the time was probably spent on that

[surreal remnant]

Evidently.

[fiery burrow]

Its incredibly funny seeing people go from "Team Cherry are bad and lazy developers" to "I just want them to communicate more" every single time

[rustic ore]

she has a bit of a Pyro TF2 situation where she doesn't really see what she's doing as wrong iirc

[warped rock]

u jus mad it aint out yet

[leaden delta]

that’s all it is really

[swift sand]

would that not... spoil... the game... im sorry?

[leaden delta]

and I can agree on that at the very least

[violet path]

No arcane spoilers without tags plase

[past mantle]

If its affecting you enough to get upset about it it's time to find something else to fill your time

[leaden delta]

or idk something

[tame atlas]

I think she knows she's killing people and stuff. In her intro cinematic she only stopped herself becaus eshe didn't want to kill her friend.

[lone crown]

It's like no object permanence, "if i cant see what's going on then surely it means nothing is happening at all"

[shell yacht]

Speaking of I need to unfriend those 3 losers that never hop on fortnite, tournament today nobody was on

[swift sand]

the atom that is my brain is decaying at an exponential rate because of this conversation

[woeful matrix]

fortnite in 2025

[violet path]

Whys fortnite ranked so dead rn?

[rustic ore]

this isn't an Arcane character
it's a League character

[valid sable]

They should give us five pixels of a screenshot every day and we have to put it together

[warped rock]

i'm sorry i'll do better next time

[leaden delta]

sure, if they deem it that

[violet path]

Ok thanks

[lone crown]

four*

[swift sand]

considering we've gotten two already... yeah it might be?

[rustic ore]

my fault gang

[shell yacht]

I don't even do ranked, I mean a tournament for free cosmetics before they hit the shop

[woeful matrix]

one pixel a day

[valid sable]

nah, odd number

[leaden delta]

it would be better to have players see it for the first time blind

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/jhin-gif2-gif-18689169

[frosty light]

i agree except for hidden dreams, because it just pretends the old shit actually had 2 bosses there all along. rip isma dream tho :(

[fiery burrow]

If you want screenshots go buy the magazine, check the store pages, or read blogposts

[heady iron]

tc should share one line of code every week

[surreal remnant]

1 pixel of a single 16k screenshot

[swift sand]

...just noticed the jawline

[ripe cliff]

And then when they do say something, a portion of the fandom still manages to get pissed

[frosty light]

theres a wall?!?!?!

[surreal remnant]

in a couple hundred years we'll have the full screenshot

[woeful matrix]

but like whats the point?

its the same as saying
yep the game is being worked on

[fiery burrow]

I was trying to illustrate how my posting of "Me When Beans" when someone was directed to #hk-meme was in-fact a deliberate joke, and did not deserve to be deleted.

[swift sand]

obviously they need to give small updates, or they should do something, but why would you bitch and moan about it?

[ripe cliff]

My god, they're confirming it's still being worked on

[lone crown]

I think the biggest silksong "spoiler" we've seen would likely be last judge. He feels like a major opponent in a much later area

[rustic ore]

_ _

[lone crown]

But if they were comfortable showing him and other new fights off then I wonder what's being kept hidden

[surreal remnant]

If anyone is "bitch[ing] and moan[ing]"...

[fiery burrow]

Ironically this was taken down as well

[surreal remnant]

oh wait that's from the wrong person

lol whoops

ignore my idiocy, continue on

[frosty light]

[rustic ore]

blaz catching strays

[swift sand]

i dont think you read the sentence

i dont think you read

[lone crown]

i dont think

[trim estuary]

same

[swift sand]

i

[leaden delta]

idk just having a lil bit of info that they are working on the thing would be chill

[trim estuary]

wait

[shell yacht]

No they make games that you buy

[trim estuary]

Same

[surreal remnant]

just me being a dumbass

[rustic quail]

Yea fr

[leaden delta]

doesn’t have to be monthly or anything

[shell yacht]

No they don't?

[ripe cliff]

sweet, round games to be exact

[woeful matrix]

my take on this
i would love for tc to give us updates or smth on the game. but its their game, if they choose not to update like ok thats it

[warped rock]

why are people so excited for silksong news anyways. nine sols is already out and better than any garbage pumped out by the tc machine

[leaden delta]

but maybe half a year having a lil smth it doesn’t even have to be much imo

[gray lance]

No dev has any obligation to communicate with the community tbh. They don't need to give updates. FromSoft didn't give any Elden Ring updates after the first trailer
Back when Hollow Knight was on kickstarter, updates are expected because, y'know, it's being paid for by the fanbase
But man there is some serious entitlement from folks
Back In My Day ™️ we maybe got a trailer for a game before release and that was it

[rustic ore]

sweet? round? like cherries?

[leaden delta]

SO TRUE SO TRUE SO TRUE SO TRUE SO TRUE

[ripe cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

[rustic quail]

Garbage is wild you might be in the wrong place ngl

[warped rock]

Is this not celestecord?

[rustic ore]

youre in the wrong place i think

[woeful matrix]

close enough

[shell yacht]

You're new, a lot of people say hollowknight is shit ironically here

[frosty light]

and sometimes even unironically!

[rustic quail]

Nah it’s uhhh taxcord

[fiery burrow]

Nine Sols is basically the fast-food equivalent of a Metroidvania you need to play more games

[surreal remnant]

if SS was kickstarter based, i'd understand people's issue with the lack of updates, but like we have zero money in this game, TC can do as they please

[swift sand]

anyhow my brain is dead enough ima head out bye yall

[shell yacht]

I'm here to remind the chat once more that a Shantae game took 22 years.
⬇️
🎤

[rustic ore]

4*
and consider, Metroid Prime 4 waiters

[leaden delta]

I mean hollow knight is pretty ok ig

[gray lance]

They're the devs. If they don't want to give updates they don't have to. If they don't want to even release the game they don't have to

[warped rock]

Why play more games when I can play the same 4 games