sk-discussion

[coarse leaf]

Ozai is the most blatant murderer

[worn valley]

He also like wanted to burn the entire earth kingdom and almost did until aang stopped him

[stark estuary]

PK good arguments: he was a broken man who had to choose between subjecting billions of his subjects to horrifying mental and physical torture eventually resulting in death for an indefinite amount of future generations or sacrificing a few thousand of his own children before they were even born or conscious and chose the latter at great personal cost and grief
PK bad: ok but he killed children lmao

[coarse leaf]

And every other day he was still able to shoot fire out of his hands while being a raging psychopath, he has 100% killed a lot of people.

[gloomy hill]

yeah everyone was on copium so dw abt. But the chaos caused the PR guy, Leth to come back online and confirm that it's false and also answer some questions here

[coarse leaf]

The only thing stopping Ozai from being like DIO was the PG rating

[gloomy hill]

we got confirmation, silksong is real

[loud lily]

no its not

[worn valley]

Me

[gloomy hill]

Leth said so

I don't believe him though

I still feel like it's fake

so true

[stark estuary]

And yet your disingenuous ass has failed to explain why

[coarse leaf]

Not really, the real thing stopping that is just Warfare Tactics. The Leaders dont fight in the war themselves, they let people fight, because if you die theres no one to lead your war. Not to say ozai wouldnt kill em himself, its just not smart of him to do

[ornate shoal]

Day 3 of posting hornet until Silksong releases

[worn valley]

Imagine if silksong was a hoax
Thag would be a funny prank

[gloomy hill]

day 4 when

[worn valley]

Day 183836 of posting hornet until...

[loud lily]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

[ornate shoal]

Tomorrow🔥

[worn valley]

TOMORROW FOR SURE

[gloomy hill]

we get day 4 before silksong...

[coarse leaf]

Day 5 when

[gloomy hill]

this is crazy

[stark estuary]

But yeah I agree with Thot Patrol PK is definitely worse than Ozai if we completely ignore context

[ornate shoal]

After tomorrow❤️

[cobalt rock]

This >>>>>> i mean if its not silksong they had to do it on purpose for a joke or something

[worn valley]

Intention left the chat
Context left the chat

[coarse leaf]

No context in the sense of like, just pure K/D basically?

[stark estuary]

Even though it’s obviously bait this is very funny ngl

[unborn moat]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[cobalt rock]

Why a cake why did he post that in the first place do you know why he tweeted that ????

[worn valley]

The alternative was much worse
Believe it or not

[stark estuary]

And also intention

[coarse leaf]

I’d still argue that’s better than an evil dictator causing death to thousands of people while traumatizing his children and banishing his wife

[unborn moat]

Because the guy likes shitposting, that's all

[cobalt rock]

I genuinely dont believe you

Something so specific

[coarse leaf]

Yeah and Ozai is way worse at being a father

[loud lily]

ozai is worse, pk is barely a father

[cobalt rock]

Nah leth is lying

[stark estuary]

PK didn’t get the chance to be a father really

[loud lily]

Why did he kill his kids joseph

[cobalt rock]

I think leth is doing one of the greatest gaming tricks in history

[stark estuary]

Take a shot every time Thot Patrol mentions PK killing all his kids

[coarse leaf]

PK managed to raise THK, which is still more than Ozai ever did.

Chat how is the person that literally killed most of his kids better then the person that was just a shitty father

[loud lily]

still fucked, but less fucked than doing it becayse youre deranged and enjoy seeing others suffer

[worn valley]

pK didn't randomly kill his own kids
The vessel project was the only real attempt he could do from stopping the radiance from terrorising the millions if not billions of his own subjects with torture and death for many generations to come.

Ozai has no excuse and no noble intention for traumatizing and abusing his kids, emotionally or physically. He did it for own sake and lust for power

Other way round

[coarse leaf]

It’s Ozai bro

[gloomy hill]

that's a 0.000750609% chance

[worn valley]

Other way round bro

[unborn moat]

Gaslighting the community wouldn't be really professional, don't you think? As the PR guy, he could never do that

[worn valley]

Why

[cobalt rock]

Fucking Miyazaki tho

[stark estuary]

Because the PK’s actions were clearly morally justified and Ozai’s were not
Because the PK felt remorse for his actions in spite of them being justified and Ozai did not
Because the PK’s actions did not cause unnecessary suffering and Ozai’s did

The Pale King was a broken man making a difficult personal choice, Ozai was a cruel tyrant

[worn valley]

It's ends justify the mean bro 😭

[loud lily]

we might all be cooked

[unborn moat]

What did he do?

[cobalt rock]

The ceo of fromsoft said nah we ain’t working in on elden ring dlc but now here we are

[coarse leaf]

Actually so true, I can commit mass genocide but if I feel bad about it its alright

[cobalt rock]

If miyasaki can leth can

[worn valley]

I don't think you understand moral dilemmas

[unborn moat]

Oh. Well, Fromsoftware is very different from Team Cherry, so, don't go silksane, please 😭

[stark estuary]

Ok, so you’re just not going to bother reading that’s fine

[loud lily]

"the ends do not justify the means"
"saving hallownest does not justify killing your children"

"the means do not justify the ends"
"killing your children does not justify saving hallownest"

[cobalt rock]

I genuinely think that its going to happen

I genuinely think leth is swaying us away because he got overwhelmed with the hype

[unborn moat]

The Diamonds in Steven Universe in a nutshell, lmao

[coarse leaf]

Yeah and you’re using them wrong

[cobalt rock]

Think about it hollow knight is huge and switch 2 is more powerful so i think yes silksong will be on ps5 Xbox and steam but not on the switch one

I genuinely think that its a trick

[coarse leaf]

Got announced for switch 1

Dont need to say anything else TC literally said it would

[unborn moat]

Only time will tell if this is just copium or if this will be reality

[loud lily]

i think everyone has stockholm syndrome by now

[cobalt rock]

Silksong wont be that’s what i mean sorry weren’t clear

[coarse leaf]

But TC.. has literally said it would

[cobalt rock]

How long ago

[loud lily]

he meant s2 i think

[coarse leaf]

Thats irrelevant

You’re saying the means doesn’t justify the ends, the means here is focusing on what you do and not the consequences.
That doesn’t really apply.

[loud lily]

no clue tbh

[stark estuary]

You know what, I’ll bite. First of all, equating PK’s actions to genocide is absurd because genocide inherently involves suffering. The Vessels were not yet born when their eggs were thrown into the Abyss and given they were not conscious entities capable of perceiving pain abortion would be a more apt term, but I think this is kind of a tertiary argument.

What’s more important here is intent, as the outcome of an action has no bearing on its morality. The PK traded a large but ultimately finite number of Vessels for an indefinite number of future generations. He was absolutely in the right.

[loud lily]

i need silksong bro

[loud lily]

doesnt the hollow knight suffer for failing

[cobalt rock]

Why ? If its 3+ years ago and hollow took around 3 years then things can change silksong wil be double the size

[coarse leaf]

Thats a lotta words lil bro I was just shitposting I dont care about this argument sorry

[stark estuary]

The outcome of an action has no bearing on its morality
If the project hadn’t failed THK would not have suffered

[cobalt rock]

At least it was because silksong is being made 6 odd years now

[coarse leaf]

Yeah and that would be implying that killing a bunch of kids justifies the ends, which would be backwards.

[loud lily]

@indigo drum

[stark estuary]

Then you shouldn’t have engaged to begin with but fine you do you

[loud lily]

makes sense

what even means to be hollow

[coarse leaf]

No you didn’t, like ever.

[stark estuary]

Which PK has no way of predicting?
What part of “the outcome of an action has no bearing on its morality” don’t you understand?

[loud lily]

you said it wrong jojo

[stark estuary]

The project failed due to factors entirely outside of PK’s control he took every possible measure to ensure its success it’s almost like that wasn’t the point

[coarse leaf]

Silksong will almost definitely not exceed the switch 1s hardware

[coarse leaf]

Literally witcher 3 runs on the switch, looks like shit but it still runs

[stark estuary]

Yes but only because whether it worked or not is irrelevant when it comes to discussing the decision to go ahead with it

[loud lily]

joseph i think no one here disagrees with PK being ass as a father to his spawn. he was barely even a dad he sacrificed em all. but i think most here feel like its a different flavor of dogshit parenting compared to being a fucking tyrant insane over power who abuses and kills and starts shit because he has Mr Moustache as his #1 kinnie identity

[coarse leaf]

Hardly, also it was three times

[stark estuary]

I disagree actually

[cobalt rock]

Okay fair didnt know that but they might not release it on switch 1 because Nintendo want a money grab

[loud lily]

i think pk wouldve been a lovely father if he was trying to parent

[cobalt rock]

I’m sorry but treehouse had a big announcement in silksong why can’t this

[loud lily]

but given the circumstances he did not have a hoice at all

[coarse leaf]

The switch 2 is backwards compatible

[stark estuary]

Him not having the chance to be a father =/= he was a bad father

[cobalt rock]

How’s that related

[loud lily]

starkirb i like your debate skills and i can tell what youre saying 👀

[stark estuary]

SS can release on the original switch and still be playable on switch 2

[coarse leaf]

You can release it on switch 1 and the people on switch 2 can buy it aswell

[unborn moat]

I wish I had these skills 😔 (social anxiety doesn't let me)

[cobalt rock]

This just proves to me that it still has a chance

[loud lily]

but also. what he did to his children still has to be counted here to a degree

[coarse leaf]

Wdym

Ehh it was written kinda poorly at times, I mean the thing you had replied to correctly that one time was just my confusion at how you didn’t realize the infection would’ve been way worse had it not been contained, as if it being in forgotten crossroads was anywhere near as bad as it would’ve been.

[cobalt rock]

Of being announced

[coarse leaf]

Ah

[loud lily]

if we put them both on scales, ozai in one side and PK in the other, i think the scales would hold PK up. but it wouldnt be a huge difference, if you compare the two

[cobalt rock]

I’m sorry but too much of a coincidence

[coarse leaf]

Well we were told like yesterday “it will release” we just don’t know when.

[stark estuary]

It is a pretty huge difference actually

[coarse leaf]

I mean sure its possible, but the "ARG" was just lunatic ravings of the community lmao

[cobalt rock]

Nah it will be announced in switch direct

[coarse leaf]

The whole point was to contain it, THK was just faulty, which is why The Knight exists. He was good enough that he could permanently seal it.

THK was meant to be a permanent fix

Well that’s very morally confusing duh, but you kinda acted like it being “everywhere anyways” was a valid argument to like anything.

Which is silly

Since it was very contained for the most part

[unborn moat]

To be fair, even though the chance of it being a coincidence is low, it doesn't mean it is entirely impossible. I think Leth was honest when saying what he said, there's no reason to think he was lying

[worn valley]

You know what how about we agree to disagree

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/joji-gif-19599416

[cobalt rock]

theres no reason yuh but was there reason to miyasaki to lie … no

[unborn moat]

Time for a peace treaty, let's gooooooooo

[loud lily]

while i definitely see why and where you stand, i think any commoner can agree that sacrificing your children is terrifying as a concept and course of action.

if we are taking the fact he's a father to his test subjects in the same way ozai was a father to some of his abuse victims, then itd make sense for the scales to not have a big difference

but also. if we will consider the fact that PK was bound to a role of power and responsibility, where he had to do something or else innocents would die, then naturally that just sends PK way higher up.

but regardless of how much of a difference there is in both of these occasions, PK still has the upper hand in both of them. which is pretty meaningful i guess

[stark estuary]

I mean

PK was by all accounts a good and just king. He loved and was loved by his subjects, and even when he did have to commit that terrible act it was justified against the potential cost and he not only made sure not to make his children suffer unnecessarily but he felt such immense remorse and guilt after the fact that it’s heavily implied to have led to his eventual demise

Ozai was a tyrant who committed several dozen war crimes, traumatized his children for no reason and felt no remorse for the cruelty he inflicted upon others

[loud lily]

ozai would still suck ass

[worn valley]

No, because the entire world was already happy
And not being threatened by infection

[coarse leaf]

It’s also not like Ozai was like just ignorant about it, he made very sure of it that he traumatized his children and spent a lot of time absolutely ruining Azula.

Big difference is Ozai was practically running a dictatorship, PK was not.

[loud lily]

i think theres no proper way to use intent and leader guilt as moral scaling, but if we are gonna do it here, ozai is still at rock bottom

[stark estuary]

Well no, we can’t examine the morality of an action without considering the context and intent behind it

[loud lily]

regardless of how much pk sucks, ozai sucks AND swallows

[stark estuary]

Meaningless argument because PK wasn’t a father

[loud lily]

its difficult to say that when we have so many examples of all the wrong things being done for good idealized results

[coarse leaf]

The character themselves applies to how they are as a father

[loud lily]

but i getcha

i think starkirb means that yes, pk did give his succulent seed to form hatchlings, but he did not act as a father in any sense. hence making him no father at all

[worn valley]

Minor spelling mistake, I win

[loud lily]

you win 🙏

[coarse leaf]

I do think we’re forgetting he was kinda a father to THK

[stark estuary]

In PK’s case it’s pretty different though, and it’s not like he was ignorant about what he was doing he’s a literal deity capable of seeing the future and had as complete an understating of Radiance and Void as he would possibly get also the alternative here is doing nothing and letting everyone suffer and die anyway which is just obviously worse

[worn valley]

Thk actually loved his dad, azula and zuko did not.

[coarse leaf]

PK raised THK way better than Ozai raised his kids, Ozai actively ruined his children’s lives.

Ozai did the exact same thing with Azula but worse

[stark estuary]

If you abort your child I’m not going to compare you to someone who actually had the chance to parent theirs that’s just stupid

[brazen token]

I'm sorry are we comparing a tragic king that had to commit bad acts to save his kingdom (aka no cost too great) to the person who when faced with the possibility of ending a war or continuing it choose to intentionally traumatize their children

[coarse leaf]

Yes

[stark estuary]

What route it’s an apt comparison lmao

PK didn’t want to be a father the Vessels were never supposed to be born

[loud lily]

abortion talk in silksong discussion. we UP

[brazen token]

Damn we really going insane

[stark estuary]

PK didn’t kill living kids though

[gloomy hill]

why are we locking kids in cages, we should burn kids in fires for being demons from hell

[loud lily]

i think what pk did is like, a belated abortion

[stark estuary]

The Vessels weren’t yet born when their eggs were thrown into the Abyss. Did you play the game?

[gloomy hill]

yeah he only threw the eggs down the Abyss

[loud lily]

or a pseudoabortion. or something

[stark estuary]

They were already dead when they hatched though

[unborn moat]

Oopsie, I guess it was my fault (I jokingly asked who would have beaten PK in a worst father of all time competition, and all of this happened)

[gloomy hill]

after they fell yeah

[loud lily]

the eggs were killed or zombified/voidified before they hatched, werent they?

[worn valley]

What no silksong does to an mfer

[coarse leaf]

Like let’s be fr if Ozai had the means to even have a thousand kids he would treat them infinitely worse than just killing them, the only reason this is even a debate is because PK could spit out kids like a rabbit on steroids.

[loud lily]

but vessels arent alive by default

[stark estuary]

No, they’re zombies which PK believed to be mindless husks incapable of feeling emotion

They’re zombies regardless ofc

[gloomy hill]

lore talk is mid

[brazen token]

True

[gloomy hill]

let's talk about neural networks and Matrix maths

[stark estuary]

They are sentient but PK had no way of predicting that so it doesn’t factor into the morality of his actions

[worn valley]

Agreed

[brazen token]

Agreed

[shell yacht]

The kids they would have been were killed when the void got into the egg they are two separate beings the void and the child

[stark estuary]

When he “killed” them they weren’t yet born

[gloomy hill]

how does one calculate the determinant of a matrix

[stark estuary]

Yes, the project failed. Did you play the game?

[coarse leaf]

“Quantity over quality” and it’s literally just impossible for the other to even have that quantity, but every piece of proof points to the quantity in their scenario being way worse.

[coarse leaf]

By calculating it of course

[worn valley]

I think pk thought his kids would never grow to be sentient beings anyway, but they did and he failed

[gloomy hill]

ok but what's the formula

[loud lily]

im scared of how close this discussion is getting to "What does it take to fight the infection off?"

[coarse leaf]

PK just really really messed up his plan

[worn valley]

-b+-root(b^2-4ac)/2a

[stark estuary]

No, the point of them was to be pure and lacking in any and all emotion/desire so they could contain the Radiance indefinitely

[coarse leaf]

No idea

[gloomy hill]

that's quadratic formula

[loud lily]

abortion clinic in silksong confirmed

[worn valley]

So

[coarse leaf]

Sounds like a weird fanfic

[gloomy hill]

I asked for determinant formula

[loud lily]

god itd be funny

[coarse leaf]

She’s rock resistant

[runic atlas]

Go back to #hk-lore 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[loud lily]

CHEESE

[worn valley]

Uhh
A^2 + B^2 = c^2

[coarse leaf]

She breaks them dumdum

[stark estuary]

He didn’t mess up, it was about as perfect as he could possibly make it. It failed due to factors entirely outside of his control and this is important because the main theme of the game is nothing lasts forever, not even the kingdom of a super smart future seeing literal deity

[worn valley]

l=thetar?

[loud lily]

radiant infection seeps between the cracks and minuscule openings like water floods

[stark estuary]

Rocks don’t have minds. Void does

Also rocks can’t focus

[kindred pewter]

LETSS GOOO HE'S BACK TO SHITPOSTING

[coarse leaf]

Wouldn’t The Knight be able to last permanently

Since he actually was like perfect for it

[gloomy hill]

I just checked the determinant of a 2x2 matrix is

for the matrix
[ a, b]
[ c, d]
determinant = ad-bc

[stark estuary]

Void is clearly not alive so yes (and PK didn’t believe it was sapient either) so yes

[worn valley]

No I think he also has some form of mind.
How else would he like do anything in the game

[runic atlas]

Me or is this just shitpost?

[coarse leaf]

I think the false prophet would be the entire fandom

[stark estuary]

The Knight isn’t pure

It can, because it was a failure

[coarse leaf]

Wasn’t the requirement being empty?

[unborn moat]

It was nice to review some Hollow Knight lore, thanks y'all

[worn valley]

The kings plan wasn't perfect

[stark estuary]

And so is TK

[runic atlas]

Y'all you can't reply yes to an X or Y question

[kindred pewter]

false prophet is a reference to the hollow knight in the hollow knight. So hollow knight is releasing in 2025

[coarse leaf]

Ong trust

[stark estuary]

He was just unable to achieve what he set out to do

[worn valley]

No it's still slightly impure

[shell yacht]

Remember like an hour ago when you said he was shitposting and weren't going to take him seriously and now you're telling him the entire fucking lore

[runic atlas]

Garm did you see my ping from yesterday can we delay the bet for 1 year

[stark estuary]

The idea of a pure vessel isn’t flawed in and of itself

[coarse leaf]

What eludes to TK being imperfect again

[stark estuary]

There are other people in the channel

[loud lily]

you

[loud lily]

giggling

[stark estuary]

My words are for the good of the many, I cannot keep them to myself to spite the few

[kindred pewter]

uhhh sure

[unborn moat]

I fucking love this man

[kindred pewter]

wait I'll turn 18 before you HA

[coarse leaf]

I’m sooner considering you dumb tbh

[runic atlas]

Shit

[coarse leaf]

Oh no oh no oh no oh no this just can’t be!!!! How could you possibly presume I, ME of all people, is dumb?? This really can’t be no no no.

[kindred pewter]

but I won't apply for mod cause for 12th grade I'll be less online

[worn valley]

The king didn't think they would become sentient beings he thought they were mindless

[runic atlas]

Okay then I need to start adding notes to more people but I'm also 99% sure you didn't not have that server name yesterday

[stark estuary]

Anyway my train has reached its destination so this is where I leave you chat

[runic atlas]

Skissue lol

[unborn moat]

Byeeeeeeeeeee

[kindred pewter]

I just am going to grind smh

[stark estuary]

(Don’t misconstrue me please)

[worn valley]

It's both

[coarse leaf]

I really just don’t think instant death at birth is the same as a life of trauma, Zuko ended up fine purely because he wasn’t even near his father for years. Azula became a schizophrenic psychopath.

[stark estuary]

Ok last message to clear up this apparent misconception - the failed Vessels were sentient, because they failed. They weren’t supposed to be

[coarse leaf]

Like if Ozai had a thousand kids he’d make an army of schizophrenic psychopaths

[stark estuary]

PK also had an incomplete understanding of Void but I digress

Ok bye for real now

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/azula-banish-gif-22608905

That still makes him a worse father, because he treats his kids worse, and if he had the same scenario as PK he would do much worse.

[unborn moat]

Thank goodness he can't have an offspring as big as insects can

[coarse leaf]

He’d probably try and make all the Vessels into like puppets or smth

[runic atlas]

Stop the PK slander my man did nothing wrong

[nimble radish]

sometimes to right a wrong, you have to do a wrong-right

batman said that

[coarse leaf]

I mean the way he treats his children still would make him worse, all you’re missing is quantity, which is impossible for Ozai to obtain.
Unless you count Ozai’s soldiers or something.

[nimble radish]

ozai was intending to kill the entire earth kingdom, genocides are totally something he's cool with

[harsh yarrow]

that is an amazing shitpsot

shitpost*

For this time, 10/10

[formal marsh]

don't think carrot big because carrot big leaf because small leaf carrot big not leaf big size

[coarse leaf]

He was pretty big on genocide

[unborn moat]

And then he perfected it, so that no living man could best him on the ring of honor!

[coarse leaf]

Ozai treated his kids the worst out of everyone else he could possibly interact with

[nimble radish]

two under his rule, I think

[kindred pewter]

what kinda agenda are you pushing

[nimble radish]

unless the southern water tribe was under azulon

[terse wagon]

None of the vessels ended up being perfect? Like if Ghost gets the ending where they ||take over controlling the infection in the temple|| it's just a loop, as Ghost can feel too and isn't a perfect vessel. The perfect vessel was PV, but PV didn't exist because PK cared about THK too much and made it feel, thus turning Hallownest to it's current tragic state. (Probably took me way too long to write this, but tl;dr: none of the vessels ended up becoming that perfect kind of vessel that PK needed)

[coarse leaf]

I believe Ozai’s father was also worse

[runic atlas]

it's not an agenda i actually believe that he did nothing wrong

[nimble radish]

azulon was not a good man either

[kindred pewter]

LITERALLY AN AGENDA

PK did so many things wrong

[unborn moat]

#PK AGENDA

[runic atlas]

such as?

[nimble radish]

the question of which of them is worst, ozai is the worst (at his job)

[kindred pewter]

sacrificing millions of children

made one of his sons eternally suffer

made a horrible ass plan that backfired on him

decided to go "fuck this I'm out" and left hallownest in ruin

[runic atlas]

1. they weren't born yet
2. if he didn't do that everyone else would've died
3. he literally had future sight he knew there was no other way

[worn valley]

Movie Thanos did have a noble intention to murdering his daughter
He genuinely thought that by doing what he had to do, he would save life from extinction.
He didn't do it for fun, for power, to seduce death, but for what he believed was the betterment if the universe.
Of course, his logic was flawed, but that makes his intentions more poorly judged than immoral

[kindred pewter]

they were born what are you on

[nimble radish]

the mad titan indeed

[runic atlas]

"eternally" thk was not even supposed to have emotions he made a mistake

[nimble radish]

very interesting how they changed his motive for the movie

[runic atlas]

every time nebula lost against gamora he replaced a part of her body with machinery

[kindred pewter]

all the children died because they couldn't clime up so they fell to their deaths

[worn valley]

Totally forgot about that

[runic atlas]

no lol he threw eggs down there

[coarse leaf]

Well Thanos is a weird situation, because as a father he was horrible, he murdered a child’s parents and like almost everyone she knew, took her away, and then sorta raised her? Like the main issue is he seemed to actually care about her, but then he also killed her for a rock.
In terms of personal relationship I’d say Ozai is worse since he caused Zuko and Azula more trauma along with not caring about them at all. But Thanos was a worse person who actually did care about his daughter, he was just horrible enough that he could ignore that for a shiny rock.

[runic atlas]

they had no emotions they didn't die

[kindred pewter]

THEY DID

[formal marsh]

???

[nimble radish]

they definitely did

[runic atlas]

you don't know the lore between me and garm

[kindred pewter]

EVERY VESSEL HAS AN EMOTION, NO VESSEL WAS PERFECT

[formal marsh]

you have got to be baiting

[quasi coral]

Hey guys, the shocking news just hit me now, I got it right that silksong will NEVER come out and Team Cherry has nothing since 2020?!?!?? 😭

[nimble radish]

be realistic

[kindred pewter]

PK was a dumbass and thought "ohh but if i put in void surely they won't think"

[nimble radish]

silksong will be out once TC run out of money

[worn valley]

Silksong releasing yesterday

[formal marsh]

its june 2023

[nimble radish]

void has an interesting property, abilites that are supposed to read auras or whatever don't really work on it

[formal marsh]

so it might take a while longer

[runic atlas]

every vessel was perfect but they had to be contained in a sterilized envirorment to continue being such so all the ones that died in the abyss were probably perfect trust

[worn valley]

No they hit you with the idea that the PK had no idea that his children actually had emotion, otherwise he wouldn't be continuing the vessel project

[kindred pewter]

Aubrey....what

[coarse leaf]

Oh lmao I forgot about her, I’d still say Ozai, do keep in mind I don’t remember much about Nebula but I don’t remember Thanos doing anything to that extent as a father either.

[quasi coral]

So what's going on? I'm confused and I don't know how hard I should grieve...

[runic atlas]

garm trust me

pk did nothing wrong

[nimble radish]

nebula was forced to undergo surgeries to make her more powerful
all those cybernetics were from her childhood under thanos

[kindred pewter]

you should know the lore of hk, I mean you play mid games 24/7 how do you not know the lore of HK

[nimble radish]

that's why she hates him so much

[runic atlas]

GARM NO COST TOO GREAT GARM

IT HAD TO BE DONE GARM

[worn valley]

Bacteria are alive, but probably lack sentience or consciousness

[coarse leaf]

Was that the only thing or like the main thing?

[nimble radish]

they did need a dreamspace, but were not intended to have free choice

[kindred pewter]

PK SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN A BETTER KINGDOM HIS DUMBASS SHOULD HAVE ALSO KNOWN THE RADIANCE EXISTED

[nimble radish]

I think the properties of void are what matters here, void supresses light

[nimble radish]

true it is very much self inflicted

[runic atlas]

HE DID IT WAS ALL THE FAULT OF THE MOTHS THOSE FUCKERS RUINED EVERYTHING

[quasi coral]

Or is it meant that the tweet the day before yesterday was just a stupid joke and team cherry will not release anything and we will just wait again????

[runic atlas]

ON ARCEUS

[nimble radish]

tbh if I was a kingdom building god I would avoid places where other gods had already built kingdoms

[runic atlas]

no he's just trying the kill the infection

[kindred pewter]

I agree, but then PK should have known a better plan if he knew how shit worked

[unborn moat]

Racism on moths just dropped 🗣️ 🔥

[runic atlas]

thk loved their dad and pk loved thk just watch the cutscene after pop

[nimble radish]

deepnest doesn't have a higher being associated with it, I'm thinking of the moths and the mosskin

[coarse leaf]

Ermmmmmm, actually The Hollow Knight is doing it to himself because of the infection, so the infection is the bad father

[runic atlas]

that is just an assumption that has no basis

[nimble radish]

doesn't have a known higher being, then

[coarse leaf]

The infection duh

[runic atlas]

it's just sad music it can mean so many things lol

[quasi coral]

Or is it meant that the tweet the day before yesterday was just a stupid joke and team cherry will not release anything and we will just wait again? Like the big reveal was a joke? I'm confused and offended...

[coarse leaf]

Ok seriously though the infection was a massive threat and something had to stop it

[worn valley]

The radiance

[kindred pewter]

THK should have been like "wait a minute, this kid has an emotion... OH FUCK"

[nimble radish]

I agree, the hollow knight is trying to die in that fight
maybe it's radiance trying to break out, maybe it's thk trying to help tk

[kindred pewter]

no

[nimble radish]

that did happen eventually

[worn valley]

Yes because it also means killing his brother

[unborn moat]

Oh shit, you made me remember how fucking depressed that music change makes me

[runic atlas]

that's the moment we realize that we aren't fighting an enemy but an ally

[kindred pewter]

well he was dumb to continue the plan and not realize the massive risks

[coarse leaf]

If you wanna blame PK for the infection that’s stupid, because it’s the trolley problem, someone loses, the issue is choosing how many and who loses.
He literally couldn’t win.

[runic atlas]

mfw characters are flawed

[quasi coral]

Guys pls i need information 🙏

[worn valley]

Both the hollow knight and the knight want to kill the infection, the knight is helping his brother do that, at the cost of their lives

[runic atlas]

also future sight shit is messy

[worn valley]

Bro😭

[kindred pewter]

my future sight says you'll never be mod and it's 100% true

[nimble radish]

it did keep the infection at bay for a while, after the infection returns what is he supposed to do

[runic atlas]

we're giving our argumentations and you're insulting us now i think we have our winner

[kindred pewter]

the hollow knight was just going to give the knight some orange juice from it's stomach

[runic atlas]

the difference between you and pk is he's smart you're dumb

[kindred pewter]

ditch kingdoms and move to pharloom and be like "hey guys I'm excited to be your ruler"

[worn valley]

Chat I think the radiance sucks

[kindred pewter]

I'm smart and he's dumb

[woven current]

<@&283547423706447872>

[runic atlas]

<@&283547423706447872>

[kindred pewter]

holy shit chat I just got $20

[coarse leaf]

Well duh it’s bad, but like both options are bad. That’s the main issue.

[inland ravine]

got ban

[nimble radish]

what if radiance follows

[runic atlas]

fym smail im first

[kindred pewter]

the knight exists so the knight would kill it

[kindred pewter]

ew genshin

[unborn moat]

Nice Furina background you got there

[runic atlas]

no no, you're insulting me saying i have no media literacy, if you have to resort to insults first it means you're in the wrong

[runic atlas]

thanks

[rocky berry]

hi cheese

[worn valley]

Hk lore if radiance didn't exist:

[runic atlas]

mhhh should i create new life in the millions and "kill" it or should i not do that and instead let billions die?? mhhhh

[runic atlas]

hiiii throw

[rocky berry]

i accidentally swallowed mouthwash

[inland ravine]

throw are you in a spaceship

[formal marsh]

<@&283547423706447872> modded discord user (against discord tos)

[rocky berry]

no

[rocky berry]

wait

you are actually pinging for that

[kindred pewter]

@runic atlas bad news for ya

[inland ravine]

[marsh ibex]

We don’t care

[formal marsh]

yes? they broke discord tos??

[worn valley]

I don't even think it was millions I think it was thousands

[rocky berry]

and what

[runic atlas]

it shows that we play gacha games

(i hope you're alright)

[kindred pewter]

I found it funny

[rocky berry]

yeah it wasnt much like 3ml max

[uneven orchid]

Omg hi Jokey, fancy seeing you here that's crazy

[runic atlas]

oh ok good

[formal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/vi-vi-arcane-gif-12366628480261455305

[rocky berry]

there were plenty of games that are much worse than genshin that they could have gone for sooner

but like

lol

[runic atlas]

mods getting pinged thrice in 2 minutes is kinda silly i pity them

[kindred pewter]

I know but the whole thumbnail and title is so exaggerated

[rocky berry]

no not really

sniperwolf is involved

its not an exaggeration to say she is

[kindred pewter]

wait what I thought he was click baiting

[rocky berry]

i watched the video

shes a part of the lawsuit

[kindred pewter]

oh

[rocky berry]

it was

[kindred pewter]

if you're going to be mod soon you have to be prepared for this

[rocky berry]

but genshin just paid the $20m settlement because
well
thats a drop in a bucket for them

[smoky nebula]

What isn't being sued

[rocky berry]

no they have 5 billion

[kindred pewter]

Li- Marvel Rivals

[unborn moat]

Dang 🥤

[smoky nebula]

Yeah but that's because that's as American as apple pie

[rocky berry]

ok im going back to sleep

[formal marsh]

hoyoverse accused of misleading children into gambling
they were like "we dont agree with the accusations but we want to be transparent and have a good public image so we'll pay anyway"

[inland ravine]

sweet dreams throwow

[smoky nebula]

Throw don't go back to sleep it's dangerous

[inland ravine]

oops

*throwo

[runic atlas]

gn

[kindred pewter]

Throw the bed is made of nails

[smoky nebula]

Leafy who's your second favourite contestant besides yourself

[formal marsh]

@indigo drum

[inland ravine]

hmm, i'll say firey

[smoky nebula]

I'm a big black hole fan,(I love death pact)

[loud lily]

im woes

[unborn moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-gif-23518284

[runic atlas]

okay you changed pfp then tho right

[formal marsh]

why am i getting recommended 2 years old dsn videos

[unborn moat]

Because Youtube stupid

[swift cape]

How is ss disc doing today

[formal marsh]

we were discussing morality of PK's actions

[uncut citrus]

for like 1h

[loud lily]

i dont think we know eachother i just saw parmesan and my brain went

[runic atlas]

OH OK

whooops orry all caps accident

[cobalt rock]

bro ur still on that ?

[quiet token]

Why is arlo talking about this now 😭

[grand ferry]

who is hello

[azure kraken]

at the end of their silk, you might say

[worn valley]

this was 23 hours ag

[pure pine]

WE GOT SILKSONG FAN-MADE BOSS BEFORE THE REAL SILKSONG LMAO- seriously tho it's kinda good

[silk zodiac]

someone already made a silksong fangame iirc

so old news

[pure pine]

Also how is mossy boi in there

[coral prawn]

this is like the fourth time I see this

[zinc ginkgo]

They finally replaced the Baidu links with Google drive

[obsidian owl]

yeah google drive link is scuffed af

[coarse leaf]

I mean this is cool but drop this shit on github, that is Sketchy as hell

[zinc ginkgo]

the controls are broken

[silk zodiac]

GET ME OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[coral prawn]

[fresh zodiac]

i have done a excel spreadsheet list of a lot of things that happened before silksong

[pure pine]

Lace 1 is not that bad as mossy ngl

[zinc ginkgo]

the controls are broken for me

[coral prawn]

the only bird I am missing is Judgemt bird

[zinc ginkgo]

How do u get the controls to operate on the bench

[pure pine]

Click up to sit on bench

[zinc ginkgo]

No I mean

I was stuck on the bench

[pure pine]

Click down to stop sitting

[zinc ginkgo]

the controls don't work

[pure pine]

Hmm

Eh idk

[heady iron]

We got silksong fangame before gta 6

[harsh yarrow]

Theres been a few for years

[coarse leaf]

Fucked up

[harsh yarrow]

There was a recreation of lace 2 for a long while

theres a WIP recreation of the first game in minecraft, and a recreation of Moss Mother and Lace 1 in minecraft

[strange night]

I think team cherry should change their name to team cake

[stoic sigil]

I hear the Silksong trailer music in my head I think I won't last much longer

[pure pine]

Holy shii it's Seth

Reply misclick moment

[strange night]

https://tenor.com/view/make-america-great-again-maga-trump-2024-never-give-up-trump-never-give-up-gif-14209957271932968387

[harsh yarrow]

is it mobile only or somrthing??

[pure pine]

There's pc version

[safe breach]

Guyyyyyyys it’s really importanttttt!!!
Nah it’s just a stupid idea I would share.

02/14/2019 Silksong first trailer
06/12/2022 Silksong second trailer
1214 days from the first to the second

If we add 1214 days after the second, we obtain 10/08/2025.

SO GUYS SILKSONG THIRD TRAILER WILL BE ON OCTOBER 8TH OF THIS YEAR🥳🥳🥳

(This is a joke)

[stoic sigil]

Woah Silksong gameplay

[pure pine]

Only for windows64 though

[strange night]

On October 8th you'll be found dead from unknown causes

[strange night]

Mario 64

[harsh yarrow]

most windows now are 64x

no?

[silk zodiac]

MY TEAMMATES ARE ALL MORONS except luna and winter they were fine

https://tenor.com/view/moron-my-students-are-all-morons-dan-hentschel-idiots-screaming-teacher-gif-9545187536972341639

[coral prawn]

One more bird until the Apocalypse is here

[sour dagger]

maybe do dmg, only blaming teamates is kinda sad

[coral prawn]

[silk zodiac]

lol nice one

[echo basin]

generational mind

[sour dagger]

4k dmg🤷

[coral prawn]

A Crimson dawn is happening but where the fuck are the clowns

should be 7 but I am not seeing any

[strange night]

Woah it's almost like he's on support

[silk zodiac]

most healing🤷

[grand ferry]

play the power classes yourself

[sour dagger]

its almost like support can do dmg

[grand ferry]

no point play medic if your team has 10 snipers and 1 spy

[kindred pewter]

YOU'RE DOING IT

[strange night]

It's almost like they shouldn't have to make up for their team not doing damage regardless

[kindred pewter]

UPDATE ME WHEN YOU FIGHT IT

[stoic sigil]

Sorry I'm here now

[sour dagger]

they can still do dmg???

[strange night]

This is fun, I'm having a good time

[sour dagger]

good

[crude oriole]

guys. I have a theory

[coral prawn]

I still need to get Judgment but will do

[strange night]

The game isn't real you're going to be shot

[gloomy hill]

everyone in #sk-discussion is a clown iirc

[silk zodiac]

that's exactly what happened lmao

[crude oriole]

So you guys know how the final boss of Hollow Knight is "The Hollow Knight?

[gloomy hill]

about?

[crude oriole]

Well, a common silksong theory is that the final boss of silksong is "The Silksong"

But we're forgetting one crucial detail

[gloomy hill]

what the heck is silksong

[crude oriole]

The full title of silksong is actually, "Hollow Knight: Silksong"

[strange night]

The silksong will be the theme of the final boss

[coral prawn]

but do any of you look like this?

[gloomy hill]

so real

guys wtf is a silksong

[strange night]

Yeah I looked like that before I hit puberty

[crude oriole]

Therefore, I believe the final boss of the game to be: THE HOLLOW KNIGHT'S SILKSONG

The hollow knight will come into the battlefield weilding a lume, or perhaps a harp, and serenade us

with a blissful melody

[coral prawn]

do you look like the Crimson Noon thing now?

[strange night]

Guys the reason the game isn't out yet is because TC can't decide if it's a prequel or sequel

[strange night]

No I look like a handsome young man with a larger than average forehead

[coral prawn]

This?

[strange night]

Mmm no

Gore is against the rules buddy

[crude oriole]

Anyways, have you guys heard my "The land of Pharloom is actually the giant body of a guy named 'Jeff'" Theory?

[coral prawn]

Shame that all of the Crimson ordeals

[strange night]

I think his name is earl, personally

[crude oriole]

Ah, yes

[strange night]

And he wears flannel and believes in karma

And raises one eyebrow when he's thinking

And every time someone takes a picture of him his eyes are closed

[grand ferry]

beautiful

[coral prawn]

wtf there is only one Indigo Ordeal

[strange night]

I am trying so hard not to think today

[lament lotus]

youre doing good

[silk zodiac]

did my first ever doom match and won which is whatever but there was a spidey spamming weak in chat and he was seething when i won

[strange night]

Thank you I think

FUCK I thought

[strange night]

Penny in doom matches is so fun

[leaden leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-9793003

[zinc ginkgo]

I just beat massive bloom charger on pc

gonna beat the rest of the bosses tmr

[pure pine]

Oh ok

But Seth gonna be kind of hard tho

[cedar trench]

i stopped buying stewie bags after brian passed

[strange night]

I wish Brian stayed dead

He's a bad person

He objectified women and that's bad (I'm 6'4 btw)

[heady iron]

I think he’s a hero

We should call him Hero Brian

[next tiger]

yo

[slender musk]

remember Milksong?

[next tiger]

dead chat

[strange night]

You're going to be dead

[cobalt rock]

isnt that what u do everyday ?

[strange night]

Aren't you the one that asked three times if Leth really said something after I sent you a screenshot of it

[cobalt rock]

i just didnt believe it tbh

[next tiger]

only if you can find me

[formal karma]

we haven't had news in 2.5 years, it's okay if chat is dead....

[next tiger]

oh

[gloomy hill]

William should do another troll post

[pure pine]

No

[gloomy hill]

then this place will get more activity and it'd be funny

[pure pine]

Pls no not again

[formal karma]

im down for it- the only problem are the stoopids making a deal of it

[gloomy hill]

imagine a DDark equivalent for SS

[pure pine]

The troll post will either make this chat alive and give the cooldown a purpose or make the Silksong Fan go past their limit

[gloomy hill]

exactly

[slender musk]

on the bright side, if or when SS finally gets a release date trailer it'll be fun to watch as the community collectively shits its pants in here

[coral prawn]

Y'know what I can take the risk I know what I am doing

[strange night]

Maybe you're just dumb

[shell yacht]

Most people just use it for themes and shit, unless we know they're using maliciously like trying to find deleted messages or channels they aren't supposed to see they get to live

[cobalt rock]

Maybe i just don’t believe someone who finds hollow knight distasteful

[strange night]

I sent you a screenshot of Leth's message and told you to search for it yourself, which you didn't know how to and responded to by telling me you "fucking hate me"

[strange night]

Snitch

[cobalt rock]

ig thats a bit too far the hate bit

[marsh ibex]

it’s also only in discord’s tos because client modifying would be on them if they didn’t clarify

[formal marsh]

i understand, my bad on the unnecessary report
the server i moderate tries to keep proof of modded discord out of the server so the inaction over the discord ToS doesnt reflect on the server itself
of course, there's no issue with modding discord for themes and i don't blame the user(s) for it, it's just something i am used to being cautious of screenshots of it to avoid any potential issues for the server

after this, though, i realize it's an unnecessary worry, lol

[cyan forum]

hey guys did you hear the monster hunter 20th anniversary concerts got released on spotify :D

[formal marsh]

and if its not clear i'm not trying to double down on my report, just to explain why i did it

[shell yacht]

All G

[formal marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946275001902977067/1324298836138790923/caption.gif

[shell yacht]

I'm more and less strict depending on my server too

[runic atlas]

I promise I'm only using it for my Genshin impact theme I didn't even know you could use it for the other shit

[shell yacht]

In one, the admins don't give a fuck and don't respond for months and the owner hasn't responded in years

[formal marsh]

😭

[strange night]

Nop you're gonna get banned now

Man I hate Fortnite when I'm losing

[smoky nebula]

Banned for genshin

[cyan forum]

they have some real bangers. like an ACTUALLY good version of Verdant Hills

[formal marsh]

server-to-server stuff is relevant, because i'm aware some are just more or less lenient on the content there

[cyan forum]

https://open.spotify.com/track/37qF6FknscIPssV7NK2YH6?si=XDFpJmwfQmeKY1DUy34p0g

[coral prawn]

Man I hate Fortnite when.

[formal marsh]

🥹

[smoky nebula]

Wait is benji the owner
I thought simo was

[runic atlas]

So true and real and soon we're gonna see if black knight comes back or not

[runic atlas]

Another server he moderates

[coral prawn]

Oh shit big bird broke out

[shell yacht]

I didn't mean this server

[formal marsh]

yeah i think the admins do give a fuck

[formal marsh]

why would ytou do this to me

[coral prawn]

and Clouded monk🚬

[shell yacht]

Benji's rare appearances put my other admins to shame

[gloomy hill]

peak screenshot

[formal marsh]

honestly i cant tell benji and simo apart because all i remember is theyre admins and i rarely see either

[runic atlas]

Btw Powdered how do we feel about Hatsune Miku in Fortnite

[runic atlas]

Simo hasn't changed PFP since 500 bc

[smoky nebula]

Benji is a myth
Simo exists

[gloomy hill]

we have Hatsune Miku in Fortnite?

[shell yacht]

I got the crew for her music pass with my PlayStation reward points

Speaking of, there's a Duo tournament today for Fox clan rewards

[runic atlas]

Understandable, I just used the VBucks I had saved up, don't wanna spend real money rn

True I gotta do it with a friend

[formal marsh]

the only fortnite skin i own is jinx and a friend gave her to me years before i first watched arcane or played LoL

[shell yacht]

My PlayStation points we're going to go to waste because they changed the way you earn them and I was basically not going to get any more by buying games on sale

[runic atlas]

Oh lame

[runic atlas]

And I'm also gonna grind StW like hell to get enough shit for the shop bundle

[shell yacht]

I was close to having $20 (Ragnarok on sale) worth but then I stopped earning points so

[runic atlas]

Oof lame

And sadge

[coral prawn]

its only a 2% chance get the damn E.G.O Gift already

[sinful flare]

guys where do i get hexcasting plugin for vencord?

[gloomy hill]

is that something that spawns demons

I want it

I wanna spawn demons

[sinful flare]

so you draw funny runes and it does all sorts of things

its like mind controlling the wild runes

[gloomy hill]

[flint rain]

SHRUE

[shell yacht]

That's a @full rune question

[sinful flare]

damn

[flint rain]

damn

[coral prawn]

shame🚬

[flint rain]

[rustic quail]

Guys I predict silksong will release at a point in time

[pine reef]

shaw

[gloomy hill]

EDINA!

[pine reef]

shaw?

[strange night]

I predict that you will never find love

[rustic quail]

Hey pal that’s not very nice

[marsh ibex]

mickey literally has minnie you fraud

[strange night]

Minnie cheated with Donald. Keep up on the lore you cabbage.

[gloomy hill]

Disney talk

[formal karma]

For day 40 of posting cardinals until silksong releases check out this boi

[gloomy hill]

real

[grand ferry]

what insane lorw

[marsh ibex]

That’s literally daisy propaganda so she can have goofy

[unborn moat]

Epic 🔥

[shell yacht]

From SSMB?

[formal karma]

i am really enjoying all the "blelelelele" with seed in their beaks

[kindred pewter]

and then we see drunk Micky, gambling on horses

[shell yacht]

Don't post bs

[quasi coral]

My account is stolen by this mf

[nimble radish]

no mickey actually gambled on horses

[coral prawn]

but was he drunk

[nimble radish]

I can't confirm or deny

[formal karma]

what? how?

[quasi coral]

it was scam...

the link

[blissful sigil]

Hi guys

[quasi coral]

i mess it

[open narwhal]

ew ssdisc

[coral prawn]

True oswald

[fierce mantle]

why did he get all angry

[open narwhal]

omg corn

[blissful sigil]

Wanna know something about me

[coral prawn]

hi

[open narwhal]

hyd

[coral prawn]

fine, you?

[open narwhal]

still sick

[formal karma]

because hearing the exact same thing from multiple people a day because they think they're being funny is lame

[coral prawn]

😔

[blissful sigil]

Hey guys wanna know something about me

[shell yacht]

No

[fierce mantle]

yes

[open narwhal]

powdered and dolm matching pfps

[fierce mantle]

even though its gonna be something basic like you having autism or being gay

[marsh ibex]

wow

uhh

I can understand your pain

[fierce mantle]

damn, very sad

[marsh ibex]

however a public discord server is not the best place to vent

[fiery burrow]

Please seek professional help this server cannot help you

[marsh ibex]

I’d suggest therapy

[fiery burrow]

Especially when this idiot is in chat

[waxen pagoda]

ion really think this is the best place to talk about that…

[open narwhal]

needs pondering.

[waxen pagoda]

also this is an INSANE topic change buuuuut

swag pfp bro 😎

[marsh ibex]

Thanns

[open narwhal]

np

[fierce mantle]

i am not an idiot, i am just mean to people online, because it makes me feel much better, it is a form of coping for my trauma of living through a war for 2 years

[fiery burrow]

I sympathize with your conditions but you are still not allowed to be dismissive and rude to people for fun

[nimble radish]

being mean making you feel better is your own personal problem

[strange night]

Why is chat sucking rn

[fierce mantle]

i heard bombs exploding, i had to endure air raid alarms that sometimes lastedd for hours

[open narwhal]

I'm not mean after 8 years of war

[marsh ibex]

Again

don’t vent in a public server

[open narwhal]

Not an excuse to be mean.

anywhos, bad topic. pls change

[heady iron]

please keep venting in the proper channel #hk-meme

[marsh ibex]

I understand your problems but like there’s no need to be mad

[strange night]

Hi ozzy, how are you doing today

[open narwhal]

hiii hyd

[strange night]

I am trying really fucking hard not to have a bad day today but it's a special day that is making that difficult
However I'm going to rewatch guardians of the galaxy 2 tonight and that's a good movie so it should help

[open narwhal]

why is it special

[strange night]

Yo I kind of suck at Fortnite wtf

[open narwhal]

surely bday

[strange night]

Ozzy I said it's specially making it hard to not have a bad day 😭

[open narwhal]

but it's a special day

[opaque sigil]

special bad

[strange night]

a special day that is making [not having a bad day] difficult

[uncut citrus]

day after birthday surely 😌

[strange night]

Dude I am actually atrocious at Fortnite wtf I'm just trying to kill people as Hatsune Miku and I'm getting my ass handed to me

[heady iron]

maybe it'd help if you were goku

[open narwhal]

is OK I'm feeling extra irritable today and I'm sick and my head hurts and I'm too tired to do anything grrr

still going to school tomorrow because its last class before exam and its my chance to get last minute questions before doing the final study session for the exam

[weary tapir]

If you click on the enemies you do damage- but if you click on the enemies heads you actually do bonus damage

[strange night]

Lmao imagine having to go to school tomorrow

Martin Luther King Jr my beloved

[smoky nebula]

Shrue

[strange night]

My aim is bad and I panic and sometimes I can't see where the bad guy is

But I'm Hatsune Miku so it's okay

[open narwhal]

what does MLK have to do with tomorrow

[smoky nebula]

There are other things about tomorrow that really fuckin suck though

[strange night]

Tomorrow is Martin Luther King Jr day

[open narwhal]

why is it his day*

[weary tapir]

Do we like do history class anymore

[smoky nebula]

Third Monday of January celebrates Martin Luther King because y'know, civil rights movement in the US

[stoic sigil]

Because he's a goat

[strange night]

Idfk

[naive geode]

Im evil

[smoky nebula]

(not sure why we do the third Monday in January instead of his birthday but the US is weird)

[open narwhal]

dni baldudo

[naive geode]

Species de cuisine looking ass

[strange night]

I think he's asking what that day specifically lol, not why we celebrate mlk

[open narwhal]

why is fiddlesticks main talking

[naive geode]

You’re the fiddler

[strange night]

I'm also evil

[shell yacht]

Yo who wants to do that duo tournament later for free gear? Fortnite (I'm not great) my duo buddy gotta work

[strange night]

https://tenor.com/view/armed-and-dangerous-winter-soldier-marvel-marvel-rivals-marvelrivals-gif-8838606042326037626

[smoky nebula]

Because the us is weird and put the day on the third Monday in January instead of just his birthday (January 15th)

[naive geode]

Im literally sewing

[weary tapir]

Well I’m thinking miku miku oo ee oo

[strange night]

One two three Miku Miku beam

[shell yacht]

The weirdest response I've ever seen to squad up

[smoky nebula]

Important question
Who here isn't evil

[uncut citrus]

not me

[naive geode]

No I’m serious powdered

[shell yacht]

Me

[uncut citrus]

as my name suggest

[smoky nebula]

Reevers you're evil‽

[shell yacht]

I believe you, it's just so weird to have somebody online respond with not now I'm sewing

[uncut citrus]

read my name

[naive geode]

Lol

[uncut citrus]

but backward 🫢

[naive geode]

WOAH

[nimble radish]

reevers evil

[shell yacht]

I forgot ur name was Reeves ngl

[smoky nebula]

Yeah it took me a moment to realise

[uncut citrus]

didnt you set me that nick

i forgot who it was actually

[naive geode]

Powdered you should be evil too

[shell yacht]

Nah prob joker

[cedar hinge]

Uhh could someone help me ? I just started the game and it’s very confusing on where to go

[uncut citrus]

might have been Joker yea

[heady iron]

this guy has silksong, kill him

[nimble radish]

you gotta fight moss mother

[naive geode]

This is not hk help

[shell yacht]

#hk-help #hk-discussion @cedar hinge

[naive geode]

We can spoil you here

Say things like hornet is void

Big spoiler

[strange night]

Brother this is the chat for silksong, the sequel to hollow knight

[cedar hinge]

Me going there isn’t gonna change the answer of my question?

[strange night]

Mods, impale him

[shell yacht]

We are telling you you're in the wrong channel @cedar hinge

[naive geode]

You go right

[heady iron]

have you beaten r5ab yet

[naive geode]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[heady iron]

I'd start there

[stoic sigil]

Mods, why haven't you lost your minds yet.

[tepid narwhal]

Mix

[coral prawn]

Queen of Hatred or The Knight of Despair

[weary tapir]

Has anyone ever seen the Jonathon blow gameplay of hollow knight

Creator of “the watcher”

[white sail]

@coral prawn tails

[coral prawn]

The Knight of Despair it is

[weary tapir]

Where he’s like walking around in greenpath

Goes on one of the platforms you cut down

And just swipes at it getting annoyed it won’t go down for like

5 minutes

And then when a chatter tells him to cut it down he just goes “annnnd I’m supposed to know that how?”

Hang on I need to find this now

https://youtu.be/3TgfDZr_xII?feature=shared&t=932

It’s time stamped

[cinder island]

incredible

not like the very start of the game shows you using your nail to interact with the world

[tepid narwhal]

🐢

[unborn moat]

This Jon Blow guy must be trolling, there's no way

[weary tapir]

He’s dead serious

[shell yacht]

Lmfao

[unborn moat]

💀

[weary tapir]

He’s one of the most pretentious people on this god damn planet

Have you ever heard of the puzzle game “the watcher”

It thinks it’s so much smarter than it is and gives zero direction that it spawned a parody game “the looker”

[warped rock]

Have you ever heard of the puzzle game undertale

[weary tapir]

Which just makes fun of it by putting non sensical dialogue and stupidly easy puzzles everywhere

[grand ferry]

the witness

oh boy

[weary tapir]

“I’m tired of walking around the world aimlessly- SOMEONE just spoil me on what to do”

“You can cut down the vines…?”

“Annnnnd I’m supposed to know that WHY!?”

[unborn moat]

I wouldn't feel so smart after not knowing the fucking basics of Hollow Knight

[weary tapir]

What a character

there’s so many indicators in hollow knight that trusts the players natural intuition and intelligence

The platform physically drops a bit. There’s a sound. And the vine is clearly unblurred from the background

It’s similar to the one chest in upper greenpath where you open it and literally nothing comes out

The players intuition is “I didn’t get thing. What the fuck?”

So they jump in the chest

And within the chest is a secret tunnel

Stuff like that is intentional 😭

[formal marsh]

honestly though this reminds me of the bouncy mushrooms

[uncut citrus]

hummmmm actually, one geo comes out 😌

[formal marsh]

that i needed to ask for help in #hk-help

[weary tapir]

The point still stands

It’s really funny because a lot of the things he’s saying can just be applied to his own game

[formal marsh]

oh yeah it absolutely is super intuitive for those platforms being held up

[weary tapir]

“I’m tired of walking aimlessly”

Your game has zero direction

“I’m supposed to know that how?”

Your game has zero direction

😭

[strange night]

Can we just kill him with hammers

[weary tapir]

Yeah

[unborn moat]

Why not with nails?

[weary tapir]

Literally this though

You can’t even get out the first area without hitting a big ass door with your nail more than 10 times 😭😭

He is the guy the yellow paint is for in every video game now

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[uncut citrus]

hey andy

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[unborn moat]

[atomic sparrow]

hi

[uncut citrus]

yourte tzhe kitty btwq

Andy

hope that helps

[atomic sparrow]

and who is the missile

[uncut citrus]

its a missle

i fired it

[atomic sparrow]

so i get to be a kitty but no one gets to be the missile ?

💔 fucked up worled we live in.

[uncut citrus]

FINE

who wannts to be the missile?

[runic atlas]

He legitimately thinks he's the best game designer in the world and stopped making games because he was in a Twitter argument and was losing, he left saying shit like "I'm not gonna make games anymore cause y'all are too stupid for them" or some shit

[unborn moat]

Me

[uncut citrus]

ok Snail youre the missile

[unborn moat]

Specifically, snailssile

[uncut citrus]

explode Andy

[weary tapir]

WHAT 😭

Does he think he’s like the Jesus Christ of video games

[formal marsh]

LMFAO

[weary tapir]

“I’M NOT MAKING GAMES ANYMORE”

[atomic sparrow]

who is this guy never heard of him

[weary tapir]

Ohhhh NO god forbid

[weary tapir]

Creator of the puzzle game “the watcher”

[coarse leaf]

the wait wont be worth it

[weary tapir]

Thanks for your valuable input you can find the door

[atomic sparrow]

never heard of that either must be mid

[unborn moat]

Someone, send this guy the clown make up, he will need it

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/undead-unluck-undead-andy-unluck-fuuko-fuuko-izumo-andy-gif-16850995621743531711

[fiery burrow]

Blud thought he was me

[floral silo]

Now I wish to see John Blow play something like rainworld, it would be fun

[strange night]

I'm dolming

[weary tapir]

It’d be fucking hilarious

[runic atlas]

Okay hold on he may still be making games tho I'm sure I heard something about him getting mad at people not understanding his games or smtn

Anyways the fact that he believes himself to be the best designer ever is probably true his ego is absurd

[nimble radish]

the tutorial for pogoing, or rather using your nail to strike downwards
was intended to be ancestral mound, but the wooden platforms can be broken by horizontal slashes

[weary tapir]

God forbid he plays a souls game

Imagine Jon blow on a souls game

“how was I supposed to know you could dodge THROUGH attacks!?”

[unborn moat]

Don't let him play Elden Ring 💀

[unique gazelle]

Make him play Sekiro

[fiery burrow]

i-frames aren't super intuitive

[nimble radish]

hitboxes not existing during rolls is curious

[floral silo]

Tbh when playing hollow knight for the first time (very recently I might add) the only thing I had a bit of a hard time with is pogoing, coz it didn’t click with me and like I was hanging around those purple mushrooms like dumbass not knowing what to do

[runic atlas]

Oh and he's right wing and transphobic

[weary tapir]

It does a good way of teaching you pogos though eventually

[nimble radish]

actually some things do have collision during i frames and that's weard

[weary tapir]

There’s that one grub with the spike covered platforms

Pretty good tutorial to tell the player

[runic atlas]

Once used "I knew you had pronouns in bio" as an insult

[runic atlas]

Honestly same I was stuck on those mushrooms for too long

[coarse leaf]

Yeah not really intuitive at all lol, you figure that out either because you already know or through trial and error not because its like, the only logical conclusion

[fiery burrow]

Why are you dying ☠️ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using Dodge Roll 🌬️ . Dodge ↔️ Role 🧻 gives you iframes 👀 which stop 🛑 you taking damage 😔

[formal marsh]

i just said that, same

[marsh ibex]

I was honestly surprised people had issues with the mushrooms

[next pier]

im on his side to be honest like how's the player supposed to know they can cut that its not even yellow

[formal marsh]

i was happy to see i wasnt the only one, lol

[floral silo]

Other then this direction was quite clear and it was quite fun to explore around the map

[marsh ibex]

it just clicked in my head that if I wanted to go higher I needed to hit the thing that bounces me

[weary tapir]

Why isn’t there splotches of yellow paint everywhere on the climbable walls

[marsh ibex]

its like ground pounding a trampoline in mario to bounce higher ig

[next pier]

every wall should turn yellow when you acquire mantis claw

[formal marsh]

i think the reason a lot of people dont know that is they dont know pogo works

[cunning geode]

oh god… doom eternal…

[weary tapir]

LMFAOOOOO

[next pier]

TRUE

[fiery burrow]

https://youtu.be/_eDUHT3LBrM?t=1034

[marsh ibex]

skissue lmfao get good

[formal marsh]

[fiery burrow]

Ceaves solution to the mushrooms

[shell yacht]

This is why you all need to play Spyro before you ever play any other video game, it teaches you all of this

[grand ferry]

yes i had trouble getting down slash + down at the same time

[next pier]

the rant about wayward compass on this video is so funny to me ngl

[nimble radish]

I'm sure a lot of people have seen gaming for a non gamer

[weary tapir]

I was a gamer my first playthrough and got fury of the fallen 😎😎😎

[floral silo]

And I guess that’s the thing that made me not understand this (blame no one for this except me)
I never played any Mario games

[fiery burrow]

Ceave Perspective is incredibly unhinged man

[nimble radish]

or whatever it's called
it's interesting to think what things designers assume ea player already knows

[opaque sigil]

people complain about the yellow paint and it is kind of a bad solution but it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

[weary tapir]

Yeahhhh I’m kinda the coolest guy in the room I play JRPGS

[cunning geode]

like i get why eternal has extremely linear and in-your-face methods of progression because i’ve seen people STILL get lost in it

but… urgh

[winter sequoia]

I also had trouble with this and I also ran through the map 4-5 times over once I couldn't figure out how to get past it, but like, that's the average metroidvania expierence imo. There are enough hints that him being so annoyed about it afterwards is a little... yknow lmao

[runic atlas]

I think I forgot I could pogo

[fiery burrow]

"And Elden Ring, is very much a metaphor about human evolution following Nietzsche’s death of god as well. Okay so Nietzsche and death of God - super quick since we just discussed this in the outer wilds video."

[runic atlas]

CEAVE GAMING MY GOAT RAHHHH

[fiery burrow]

Bro said it like it was a class we're supposed to take

[coarse leaf]

Thats some crazy stuff

[floral silo]

Nietzshe’s death of God is to occur on April 2nd

[unborn moat]

Never heard of this person, to be honest

[runic atlas]

Real OGs watched Ceave before he made the perspective channel

[fiery burrow]

Dude everyone watched ceave before he made perspective

[nimble radish]

who is ceave

[fiery burrow]

That channel gets 0 views

[weary tapir]

Idk who ceave is

[shell yacht]

Those types do think they're enlightening the world with every word that leaves their mouth

[floral silo]

Never heard of him too actually

[runic atlas]

I know which is why he should go back to finding the mathematically highest score in Mario games

[fiery burrow]

He made Mario Maker videos and Mario challenge runs

[next pier]

like the whole rant about how "he needs to farm for wayward compass early on when it should be a feature from the start and not a charm" is so funny to me

[weary tapir]

I kinda wish I had my head so far up my ass to think the way they do sometimes just to understand what it’s like to think you’re the actual second coming of Christ

[nimble radish]

wayward compass is weird

[next pier]

yeah who the fuck learned about ceave from fucking ceave perspective

[next pier]

its fucking awesome let me tell you

[nimble radish]

the other map upgrades don't consume charm notches

they ought to though, that would improve the game

[next pier]

okay TRUE

[weary tapir]

What’s it called to be the opposite where it feels like everything you say is a detriment to society bc that’s what I have

“Crippling social anxiety”

[floral silo]

Whatever I say may be a detriment of society and that means I should say more and do it with greater confidence

I may state that I don’t have a head far up my ass but it will sound like I do

[radiant wren]

im glad more ppl think like that, tbh ceave has become very pretentious and negative imo, specially in regards to the zelda series it seems

[strange night]

You personally are a detriment to society

So am I though

[floral silo]

And we shall take pride in it
:trol:

[runic atlas]

i have not watched a single video of ceave perspective i legit dont know what he even says i just think the videos are boring and this is coming from the number 1 fan of video essays

[nimble radish]

that reminds me I should go watch fear of dark

[radiant wren]

i have watched and they really are, bro takes soooo long to make any point

[floral silo]

Also I forgot who it was but the person who got 9/11 as pronouns made me laugh out loud

[next pier]

i only watched the hollow knight video and i found it good

[radiant wren]

i watched that yesterday, top tier essay

[worn valley]

same!
i asked my friend wtf to do
and he was like
pogo
and i was like
what

[runic atlas]

Everyone should watch Ozzy II

They only made 2 video essays and disappeared right after but they're very good

[next pier]

thanks

[fiery burrow]

In his videos Ceave said he overall enjoyed both Tears of the Kingdom and Echoes of Wisdom

[radiant wren]

like, i agree with his view on TotK but he didnt need an hour and a half to make those points

[fiery burrow]

He just wishes there was overall more customizability and accessibility which does make sense. To be honest I don't remember half of his TOTK critique though

[formal marsh]

Hollow Knight is a game with no flaws.

[fiery burrow]

🗣️

[radiant wren]

him saying he didnt care for the story on EoW pissed me off

[next pier]

i only really remember from his hollow knight video is his goofy complaint about wayward compass and him talking about that like ducktales game at the start

[strange night]

I love ceave

[fiery burrow]

I haven't played EoW but the typical Zelda story is mid and like why would you care for the story on a second playthrough challenge run