sk-discussion

[fiery burrow]

yeah and thats where anything interesting ends

[vestal snow]

thats what im sayin

[opaque sigil]

hk definitely has an issue with creative abilities, pretty much all the progression ones are very standard

dash, double jump, ground slam, wall climb

[fiery burrow]

Deviator revolutionized the dash by giving it this sick animation whenever you use it to counter a blue attack

or special effect not really an animation but it still feels cool

[opaque sigil]

I'm too lazy to do the prince of persia plug but that has way more interesting abilities even if not all of them are suuuper well developed and there's one I barely used past the main path it opens

shadow of the simurgh my beloved

[silver oak]

I don’t think it’s wrong to say that HK doesn’t really innovate

[fiery burrow]

my backlog of games to buy is getting too big 😔

[subtle lynx]

Simple doesn't mean bad. It works in this game since there's lot of skill to be developed with them. A good example is the path of pain

[opaque sigil]

hk's platforming is quite dull

pop is whatever idrc

[fiery burrow]

POP and WP aren't the norm

[subtle lynx]

Yeah

[opaque sigil]

wp at least you actually sorta have to do

[subtle lynx]

Maybe it's simple to someone who has played a million platformers

But for someone like me, it was really hard

And new

[grand ferry]

i kinda want to see what was their thought process designing pop

[jade canopy]

I had a friend who thought they were not meant to go to city through the broken bridge

Cuz they were too trash at it

[opaque sigil]

"it's an easter egg so it can be anything"

[fiery burrow]

They wanted a secret hard platforming challenge for dedicated players

It is kinda a blast but like thats kind of the upper limit for HK platforming while still being fun

It just doesn't offer a whole lot of flexibility really

[versed pollen]

The broken bridge to city has hilarious hitboxes and is also strangely challenging for a game that almost never uses platforming after the fact

[opaque sigil]

it also can't offer anything you haven't probably already seen

[gloomy hill]

HK's strong suit is it's combat

platforming seems more like an afterthought

[opaque sigil]

it's strong suit is its exploration

mob combat is quite boring and bosses are hit or miss

[fiery burrow]

The combat is usually mediocre with a few really great fights

[brittle garnet]

The combat is simple and responsive, which makes it rather accessible and nonintrusive

[versed pollen]

What the awesome

I like the combat in HK but there are a number of bosses that feel very simplistic or 1-dimensional

[brittle garnet]

It can be a strong suite in the sense that it doesnt diminish the overall experience but hk would not be a good game if it was just the combat

[gloomy hill]

some of the bosses are really good, THK, Grimm all the pantheon only bosses (except winged nosk), TL, Both Hornets, False Knight, all the dream bosses, Normal Markoth, Galien, BV etc

[opaque sigil]

read what I said again

[subtle lynx]

That's an extreme exaggeration

[brittle garnet]

Not really

[subtle lynx]

Platform is quite far from HK strengths

[gloomy hill]

the simplicity in those bosses is what makes them good, like TL

[subtle lynx]

Removing it would not make such an impact to go from amazing game to not good

[brittle garnet]

There is more than combat and platforming

[versed pollen]

I would argue if HK was "just combat" you would hardly have a game at all. So if anything I almost think pointing out it would be bad is pointing out the obvious. Like if someone threw out your food you would have nothing to eat

[fiery burrow]

TC's aware their enemies are pretty simple, comparing them to goombas

[subtle lynx]

Yes, that's exactly my point

[brittle garnet]

So is mine

[fiery burrow]

Traitor Lord kinda sucks ngl

[opaque sigil]

there are plenty of games that are basically just combat gauntlets

[subtle lynx]

I have fun with traitor lord

[versed pollen]

TL is a tutorial for shade cloak if anything

[fiery burrow]

Its literally just a big Mantis Traitor and you won't see many of its attacks if you stay close to it

[versed pollen]

Yea but in HK's case it wouldn't really work I think

[opaque sigil]

yeah

[subtle lynx]

Except you don't know that as a new player

[wide quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[versed pollen]

At least, I don't think the comparison is a meaningful one to make

[gloomy hill]

Silksong will have better enemies for sure

[subtle lynx]

We've seen a bunch of non-boss complex enemies

[fiery burrow]

The game incentivizes you to stay close to enemies because that's how you deal damage

[gloomy hill]

true

[gloomy hill]

exactly

[subtle lynx]

Still, you don't know how traitor lord works and for a new boss you will likely not wanna go close as a first instinct

[opaque sigil]

and by the time you fight tl you aren't a total novice so you'll not be hiding in corners as much

[wide quartz]

i hid in corners

[opaque sigil]

skissue ong

[stoic sigil]

[gloomy hill]

most people hide in corners on that boss their first time around smh

[fiery burrow]

You'll maybe see its long range attack for the first time but every subsequent fight with him its quite rare

[subtle lynx]

Yeah

[fiery burrow]

You just simply have no business being that far away from Traitor Lord

[gloomy hill]

just go to HK-help

[gloomy hill]

yeah but people don't know that and they don't wanna die

[pulsar sleet]

For shaw

[gloomy hill]

the best way to dodge something is if you have a more time to react to something a being far away contributes to it

I wonder if hornet will shaw in silksong

I will give a -5 star review if not

[pulsar sleet]

I wonder if silksong

[fiery burrow]

Its incredibly easy to learn that

[gloomy hill]

except some people spent hours on it smh

[fiery burrow]

also the game requires you to get up close

like every other boss fight you can't deal damage unless you do that

[gloomy hill]

I am not even joking TL is one of the most common bosses in #hk-help

people struggle with it a lot

[fiery burrow]

i don't go in #hk-help and I can't really comment on that nor do I think its very relevant

[subtle lynx]

I think it's relevant for the matter

[gloomy hill]

if we are talking about new players I think it is

[opaque sigil]

I mean we aren't

[formal marsh]

wasnt there a "taunt" button in the demo that let her do that?

i may be misremembering but ive heard about it

[gloomy hill]

what

[opaque sigil]

don't remember if it was that voiceline but yes

[gloomy hill]

we have a taunt button in silksong??

[pure wave]

yes

[gloomy hill]

what would it even do?

[opaque sigil]

probably nothing

[formal marsh]

just the voiceline

[pure wave]

hornet bows and makes a noice

[subtle lynx]

I think it was just there as an Easter egg

[fiery burrow]

Its fun

[gloomy hill]

sounds useless

[stoic sigil]

What if Shaw is actually a racial slur

[subtle lynx]

I doubt it will be there when the game releases

[formal marsh]

thats the point

[gloomy hill]

I doubt they'd keep it in game then

[vestal snow]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-baller-gif-14029524177706980174

[fiery burrow]

Like in-between boss fights and stuff before you could move on I've seen a lot of people move their head up and down, start doing crystal dash, etc

Its something useless to pass the time and have fun

[fading portal]

I still can believe we havent had any news

[gloomy hill]

we had 7 months ago, that's big

[subtle lynx]

I also can believe it

[gloomy hill]

yeah but why add a taunt button

[subtle lynx]

Cause it happened

[pure wave]

those new weren't exactly my concept of big

[opaque sigil]

callback to hk, have her do the pre-fight flourish

[gloomy hill]

any news is big for silksong

[fading portal]

I dont even remember what the last news was, was it the rating?

[gloomy hill]

I don't think TC would do that ngl

[opaque sigil]

it was the delay

[opaque sigil]

they did in the demo

[pure wave]

the "happy valentines"

[gloomy hill]

^^^

[stoic sigil]

I want Wilbo to say something like "The" in this chat just to see what happens

[subtle lynx]

That isn't news lol

[violet path]

Happy birthday

[subtle lynx]

We already knew they were "working in the game"

[gloomy hill]

it was "happy valentines we are still working on it"

[gloomy hill]

true

[pure wave]

he said this 2 years ago

[violet path]

Exactly thats why they dont bother communicating

[vestal snow]

this must mean they are making a song

[gloomy hill]

they should give us some sort of progress report on how close they are to finishing the game

[fiery burrow]

Communication should be mandatory

[violet path]

No they really shouldnt

[versed pollen]

We should kill Team Cherry and steal their game

[gloomy hill]

why?

[gloomy hill]

true

[frozen frigate]

W pfp

[pure wave]

they are probably holding out a little longer, to not disepoint

[violet path]

Its pretty clearly in development hell and they likely wouldnt want to put out something they cant guarantee again

[opaque sigil]

it's pointless and there's a serious misinformation problem so they couldn't say anything of any real value but anything they said would be misconstrued endlessly

[fading portal]

Alot of people have lost hope, which isnt good for team cherry

[frozen frigate]

Daydreaming by radiohead

[weary tapir]

WHAT IS HE DOING IN METAPHOR

[subtle lynx]

That is such a no reason

With good wording you can just avoid that

[olive bobcat]

Eh

[violet path]

“Its not persona”

[subtle lynx]

And if it happened, who cares

[opaque sigil]

no you can't

[weary tapir]

FIRST OF ALL

[violet path]

(Suspiciously persona shaped game)

[olive bobcat]

He's Atlus' mascot right

[weary tapir]

he’s not from persona he’s from megaten

[fading portal]

For the most part communication is key

[opaque sigil]

atlus should stop making mid and make a radiant historia sequel or some shit

[weary tapir]

Yes

[violet path]

(Suspiciously persona 3 reload looking mc)

[olive bobcat]

That's why he's there

[frozen frigate]

I'm about to play Jedi survivor today, it's been updating for a while but it's almost done

[pulsar sleet]

"Hard at work" on Valentines

[violet path]

Atlus should stop making peak and make mid?

[weary tapir]

It’s literally so different from persona if you just play the game I have seen the first 4 hours

[fiery burrow]

Communication is a marketing thing

[stoic sigil]

naaah

[violet path]

That doesnt make sense

[stoic sigil]

Persona.

[weary tapir]

I hate discussing games with people sometimes

[violet path]

Bet the main character is called jester and theres a talking dog

[fading portal]

At this point i think we have a better chance of the outer wilds lego happening than silksong within a year

[fiery burrow]

Game is marketed, behind Monster Hunter Wilds (duh) its the second most wishlisted game on steam

[violet path]

Who says lookin cool jester

[versed pollen]

I would play the game if this happened

[olive bobcat]

It's like Persona 4?

[weary tapir]

Game is just poorly marketed

[violet path]

Tyty

[pulsar sleet]

Maybe they're in dev hell I don't know anymore

[stoic sigil]

Having genuine conversations is not something we do in #sk-discussion

[weary tapir]

I’m aware don’t worry

[violet path]

I dont think ive ever seen marketing for anything to do with atlus

[olive bobcat]

TC are in dev heaven, development is going so smoothly they don't think of the community anymore

[versed pollen]

Flourishing, in their lane

[fading portal]

They went to heaven and left us without ss

[violet path]

The only reason i ever picked up persona is because one of my friends played it and someone from this server recommended it

[pulsar sleet]

I don't think they've thought about it since 2019

[weary tapir]

Just the the general look they’re showing doesn’t do it justice

[stoic sigil]

They're just optimizing the game for the Gameboy port

[versed pollen]

I should play Persona tbh

Maybe in 10 million years though

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-wear-deodorant-read-a-book-meme-smelly-gif-10266646813620115129

[weary tapir]

It has the calendar system and you spend time with people and that’s like as far as comparisons go

[fiery burrow]

TC are in dev heaven. I killed them

[stoic sigil]

Also apparently Deltarune 3 and 4 are almost done

[weary tapir]

You’re a politician running for King

[versed pollen]

Why would you say this to me

[olive bobcat]

Stinky

[weary tapir]

You have to decide what to do with your time at a much greater scale than persona

[fading portal]

Stinky

[pure wave]

o the other hand they've spoiled so much. i think they are just wating utill release

[versed pollen]

We should publically execute you

[weary tapir]

Choose to travel to different regions and such

[fading portal]

Spoiled what???

[violet path]

Incorrect

[subtle lynx]

A lot

[weary tapir]

Everything that happens in persona is on a rail and pre determined

[versed pollen]

What if you're just coping

[subtle lynx]

We know a lot about silksong actually

[stoic sigil]

They're pivoting to Zoteboat I can feel it

[grand ferry]

on a rail

[weary tapir]

In this game you can choose the order things are done and what you spend time on

[pure wave]

we know so many characters and areas

[olive bobcat]

Rail, like Gekkoukan High?

Hoy shit

[stoic sigil]

💀

[weary tapir]

Choose to fight a god damned dragon in a dungeon or choose to increase your popularity with civilians

[fiery burrow]

Thats true

[pure wave]

dont skull me

[violet path]

In the game you hit yourself with a uhh sword to summon a metaphor

[subtle lynx]

Yeah why the skull

[weary tapir]

no you rip your own heart out

And they aren’t called metaphors

[olive bobcat]

Silksong fans arguing

[weary tapir]

They’re called archetypes

[wide quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/sols-bug-jar-cat-apolocheese-gif-2071058436065209356

[weary tapir]

The main character has an actual set class too. You can change it OUT of battle but in battle you are stuck to the one playstyle

[violet path]

oh so like jjk

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[weary tapir]

So like you can be a merchant class that bribes enemies with money for example

[versed pollen]

When Silksong releases I will immediately argue and engage with every single damaging dash user out of habit

[grand ferry]

go on the subreddit

[pure wave]

il just miss the pogo

hope there is a nail crest

[gloomy hill]

is pogoing gonna be afeature in silksong

[opaque sigil]

the damage dash might actually be well designed though

since it costs shit

[versed pollen]

On discord I get to bully people live though

[versed pollen]

It would be on instinct

[stoic sigil]

Oh fuck TC sent an assassin

[subtle lynx]

There is pogo, not in the initial crest

[versed pollen]

Fight or flight response from HK

[opaque sigil]

every crest has pogo one of em has a worse one

[pure wave]

ohh.. neat

[subtle lynx]

I mean the classic pogo

[olive bobcat]

It's too easy there

[opaque sigil]

that's the worse one

[gloomy hill]

wth why are pogos in crests??

[olive bobcat]

It's more fun to make the occasional people mad here

[gloomy hill]

I do not understand the crest mechanic I thought they were like notch slots and different ones allowed you to have different stuff

[olive bobcat]

Yeah that's what it is

[opaque sigil]

they change your moveset and have extra effects

[subtle lynx]

Bro's been living under a rock

[gloomy hill]

trying to stay as away from silksong content till release

as much as you can that is

[gloomy hill]

like what?

[fiery burrow]

can't wait for crest glorification

[opaque sigil]

one of em increases shell shard drops, one might let you miniheal idr

[subtle lynx]

They change your whole attacks

[gloomy hill]

all I know is reaper crest is best and looks cool

[opaque sigil]

not really clear what the extra effects are

[fiery burrow]

from the pinned silksong megadocument

[wide quartz]

fake image

[opaque sigil]

idk about the more damage thing that wouldn't really make a lot of sense

[wide quartz]

i thought that said beaver

[gloomy hill]

interesting

[stoic sigil]

No way it's that crest from the genocide route

[gloomy hill]

reaper is probably the one that deals more damage

[runic atlas]

Can agree

[spare fractal]

Are we gonna fight Lace at the end of the genocide route where she will become straight and give hornet a bad time?

[vestal snow]

where did you find this?

[olive bobcat]

Discord

[opaque sigil]

it's fake

[stoic sigil]

Yes Ari told me

[olive bobcat]

Found it in a server full of Silksong screenshots

[vestal snow]

phew

[spare fractal]

he's good at making fake silksong screenshots, we just like to pretend they're real

[olive bobcat]

[stoic sigil]

Invite me

[spare fractal]

invite me too

[olive bobcat]

I'm in bed rn so no

[vestal snow]

good is an understatement, shit had me worried id seen spoilers

[olive bobcat]

It's an alright edit

I've done better

[vestal snow]

im also dumb

[stoic sigil]

Bro thinks he playing Outer Wilds

[fiery burrow]

ew

[olive bobcat]

Uhhhh fuck where'd I put it

[stoic sigil]

But Simo will send you Real Silksong Screenshots from the Playtest build for 25 Cents

[vestal snow]

https://tenor.com/view/canitsans-notimeforbanter-canitsansnotimeforbanter-undertale-undertale-memes-gif-25650743

[coral prawn]

I am smh my head

[olive bobcat]

This one is way better

[wide quartz]

you can see its fake by the fact mr beast is hidden in the bottom right

[fiery burrow]

remember that fake leth tweet about the unity fiasco

[olive bobcat]

No

[opaque sigil]

honestly it would suck if coral area turns into this

[olive bobcat]

And "this" is

[opaque sigil]

cramped caverns and shit

[wide quartz]

classic new user, doesnt understand art 🙄

[olive bobcat]

I do not think you understand what a secret room is

[opaque sigil]

ig there will be at least some of that

but the open parts are neat

[brittle garnet]

this one is wrong

[coral prawn]

oops almost flew in to the sun

[brittle garnet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/985876527285686332/CrestAttacks.png?width=484&height=676

mine is more accurate

[fiery burrow]

[brittle garnet]

or, really, the mistake on that one is the one labeled as "special" on the last crest is actually the lunge

[wide quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-fucking-get-you-neko-atsume-me-when-me-when-i-get-you-mrtheyes-gif-4157721420697656658

[brittle garnet]

and the one labeled as lunge is just the regular attack

[brittle garnet]

still maintaining that the shell shard drops is a tool and the magazine writer just misunderstood TCs words

[opaque sigil]

[citation needed]

[brittle garnet]

well the word crests is written in square brackets, which means TC didn't actually say that it was about crests, it was added by the wrticle writer for context

[opaque sigil]

which means there was context suggesting it was a crest

[brittle garnet]

the sentence is more aligned with the way tools would work

and since both are closely tied, the mistake is not farfetched

[opaque sigil]

and yet it's a silly thing to assume

[brittle garnet]

it's really not

[opaque sigil]

"I wasn't there and don't know the context but I'm pretty sure the person who was there and does know the context was wrong"

[brittle garnet]

especially since it's a sentence which is comparing them to charms, which wouldn't make sense for crests because they aren't the charm equivalent

[brittle garnet]

the context exists in the sentence

[opaque sigil]

also the comparison isn't in mechanics it's in diegetic method of equipping

[opaque sigil]

no it doesn't

that's not what context is

[brittle garnet]

yeah and what we saw of crests isn't diagetic at all, while tools are very much so

[opaque sigil]

lmao

[brittle garnet]

dawg

they said "line of pendants, necklaces, brooches and bracelets, things that have evidence of being wearable"

[opaque sigil]

which tools don't consistently have

[brittle garnet]

now without stating one or the other, which do you think fits more

and crests don't have, at all

[opaque sigil]

we haven't seen a physical representation of a crest

but the menu things look plausibly wearable

[brittle garnet]

you're assuming there is one

[hollow terrace]

OMG OMG OMG OMG

[brittle garnet]

???

plausibly wearable lmao

[opaque sigil]

moreso than the tools

[leaden delta]

oh! yay movement

using this for mapping

[silver oak]

Since crests are associated with tools I could see them having some sort of visual indicator

[brittle garnet]

no???? what we see of crests are glowing line patterns

[opaque sigil]

at this point it's 'they're probably things that are real'

[brittle garnet]

they don't look physical in the slightest

[opaque sigil]

do you not understand that representations tend to not be literal in ui

reaper crest could absolutely be a spiky bangle or some shit

[silver oak]

Hornet making up crests and limiting her tools for literally no reason

[tawdry valley]

If given the choice between a Mike Tyson crest and a jackie Chan crest, the silksong assumption is whether to fight barehanded with kung fu or uppercuts.

Probably another extension of the whole “nailmaster aura” deal

[pure wave]

what is this!?, ss discussion in #sk-discussion ?

[strange night]

Silksong will have guns in it

[tawdry valley]

Crests will likely be a literal crest for a group or person

[strange night]

Ari Gibson told me irl

[opaque sigil]

heraldry is often worn

[brittle garnet]

and, especially, the sentence right before that is dissonant with crests vs tools.

"...but a Reaper crest might have six slots for you to deck out. Or, well, bling out."

Now if you notice, 'deck out' slots is referring to slotting tools into them. And then 'bling out' is used right before describing how, as opposed to charms, they are wearable and physical.

I don't know about you, but the structure of the previous sentence is clearly talking about tools, and the following sentence is elaborating upon it, but the word added for context is [crests], despite that not making sense considering the previous sentence. You don't deck out a crests' slots with crests. You do it with tools.

[opaque sigil]

what do you bling out

you bling out things

also the previous sentence clearly wasn't talking about tools

[subtle lynx]

I hope all crests have equal amount of tool slots so they are all equally good

[brittle garnet]

as in you slot tools into the slots, which, because the tools are physical wearable things, is comparing them to fashion

[brittle garnet]

literal insanity

[opaque sigil]

you slot things into a concept

if you can slot tools into crests they're physical

[brittle garnet]

?????

[opaque sigil]

and worn

[tawdry valley]

slots will likely differ in amount and type between crests

[brittle garnet]

you're actually insane

[silver oak]

arch what are you arguing?

[opaque sigil]

that crests are nonphysical things and you just sorta idk dematerialize tools into them

[subtle lynx]

I hope so, in the trailer the wanderer crest has less slots than the reaper one

[tawdry valley]

Might be a way to upgrade slots in crests

[opaque sigil]

hopefully

would suck for them to become nonviable due to tool slot limitations

[strange night]

I've done that before

[brittle garnet]

I'm arguing that the highlighted word here is meant to say Tools and crests is a mistake from the article writer

[opaque sigil]

tools aren't clothes

so if you think the writer is wrong it's more likely it's neither thing

[tawdry valley]

What’s the argument even about

[young breach]

look up 2 messages

[tawdry valley]

Whatever the writer said or meant to say means []

[brittle garnet]

except in hollow knight, where you can literally see items physically represented. They even fucking represented your tool inventory in silksong with aliteral pouch. The only things without a clear physical representation in your inventory were things which weren't physical objects, like weapon arts and spells

[opaque sigil]

do you legitimately not get the point or are you just fucking with me

[tawdry valley]

What’s the difference between agreed upon reality

[silver oak]

Arch is confusing me

[opaque sigil]

crests being physical and fully represented not in any simplified way in that menu would look bad

[strange night]

Look down two messages

[opaque sigil]

so they wouldn't represent them like that in that menu

so that menu not representing them that way doesn't mean they aren't physical things

[young breach]

u forgot the crocodile

[brittle garnet]

are you purposefully rewording what i say to make it seem less sensible?

[opaque sigil]

you're the one claiming tools are the thing aligned with the statement

so no I'm not making things less sensible at most I'm paring the yap down

[brittle garnet]

well yeah because it makes more sense

[warped rock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[opaque sigil]

[citation neeed]

[brittle garnet]

the tools are physical objects that you could imagine being worn, while crests are... squiggly lines

it's not hard

[opaque sigil]

.

[opaque sigil]

.

[young breach]

🐊

[opaque sigil]

.

[brittle garnet]

ok but that's just cope

[opaque sigil]

your wild assertion that they're nonphysical is cope

[brittle garnet]

you're only saying that because it would justify why we haven't seen crests represented physically

[opaque sigil]

you can't slot physical things into something nonphysical

[brittle garnet]

the slots aren't literal

[obsidian ledge]

I spoke to a pretty girl in my class today and saw the most beautiful sunrise in my life.

the picture doesn't do it justice tbh

[opaque sigil]

ok so it becomes nonliteral when it's convenient for you and only then

[brittle garnet]

the slots are not diagetic. Slotting tools into the crest is what they mean when they said "things that can be worn in some way"

[opaque sigil]

pure cope

[brittle garnet]

which THEY COMPARED TO CHARMS, WHICH TOOLS ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF

[opaque sigil]

they compared to charms because they're equippables not because of mechanical roles

[brittle garnet]

the tools are also the equippables

[opaque sigil]

instead of slotting into the shell she wears something and then shit can slot into that

[brittle garnet]

no, the tools are the thing she's wearing

[opaque sigil]

[citation needed]

[brittle garnet]

Does this look like it slots into some weird nondescript slot? It looks easier to wear like a bracelet if anything

the other ones could easily fit the description of a "brooch"

[opaque sigil]

not really an argument

[brittle garnet]

oh so it's only an argument if it's convenient to you?

[opaque sigil]

you've clearly not got a point so I'm gonna ignore this

[opaque sigil]

no it's only an argument if it supports a claim

[brittle garnet]

just like you're ignoring my point

So the thing is

I'm arguing against X.
You're using X itself as a counterargument.

[trim estuary]

Why do your clouds look so cool

[opaque sigil]

nope

[opaque sigil]

sunrise and sunset always make clouds look cool

[trim estuary]

Nuh uh

[brittle garnet]

"I'm saying that when she said [crests] that was a mistake"
and then you are going off of the assumption that [crests] was not a mistake and bringing up what ifs that would support that while ignoring what i say, which is for all intents and purposes equally valid

[trim estuary]

The sunrise this morning just changed the color and it looked pretty but the clouds themselves looked mid

[opaque sigil]

were there enough of them

[brittle garnet]

"I'm saying that they meant tools when they said that"
"But they said crests"
is effectively what this boils down to

[opaque sigil]

ig they do need to be kinda thicker

[fiery burrow]

why was it a mistake

[opaque sigil]

incorrect

[brittle garnet]

citation needed

[strange night]

I'm the best

[strange night]

Citation needed

[olive bobcat]

That's cool and all but are the tools worn like clothes, c'mon man get your priorities straight

[trim estuary]

How you gonna wear the orange jar like clothes

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/citation-needed-buzzer-button-red-gif-12923947

[full ledge]

Ym needs citation

[opaque sigil]

hornet really boutta show up in one of these

[brittle garnet]

i'm sure there's already plenty of images of that online

[hexed briar]

Silksong where art thou?

[trim estuary]

😭

[hexed briar]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-diavolo-vento-aureo-meme-funny-gif-20952673

[stoic sigil]

Right behind you

[hexed briar]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-gif-19475871

[subtle lynx]

How did that go

[brittle garnet]

because by the way the paragraph and previous sentence flows, it implies it's talking about tools, and the description more fits the way we see tools rather than crests

[opaque sigil]

no it doesn't imply that

[brittle garnet]

citation needed

[opaque sigil]

tool shit is literally two pages away

[brittle garnet]

i mean you just proved yourself wrong

[stoic sigil]

Bread

[brittle garnet]

i am talking about the same paragraph

[subtle lynx]

Wait is the magazine published somewhere for free???

[opaque sigil]

no

[subtle lynx]

Crap

[brittle garnet]

purchasing a crest from a vendor in the starting town is also.. what?

[fiery burrow]

yeah but not legally

[olive bobcat]

So this whole argument is about whether tools or crests are worn like accessories

[opaque sigil]

purchasing a basic crest in bonebottom would be entirely plausible

[brittle garnet]

just like you purchased your starting 3 notches amirite

[trim estuary]

Do you think Hornet could fit multiple crests on if she tried hard enough

[jade canopy]

Overcresting

[brittle garnet]

dont get me wrong but getting a thing which changes your moveset is not something you put in the starting vendor especially since there's no evidence to believe there are that many of them

[opaque sigil]

there don't have to be many of them and one of them probably keeps the basic moveset

[brittle garnet]

yeah the one you start with

[opaque sigil]

who says you start with it

[brittle garnet]

the article literally says "Starting wanderer crest"

[opaque sigil]

but that's all irrelevant because you could definitely still buy one

[olive bobcat]

But here's the friend of ours named Jimmy:

[opaque sigil]

that's the first one you get

[brittle garnet]

according to you

[opaque sigil]

doesn't mean you have it on the first frame

[fiery burrow]

Hornet wears them and by the end of the game you come out looking like a Risk of Rain survivor

[brittle garnet]

but it can ver well be

[opaque sigil]

ok you're taking the piss

so now wanderer's crest isn't the first one

but it is the starting one

[stoic sigil]

Bidens America

[brittle garnet]

what i meant is "according to you, you get it, vs starting with it"

[opaque sigil]

...no

I didn't say you get it I said you might get it

[grand ferry]

fr

[opaque sigil]

different things

[jade canopy]

How the fuck am I supposed to understand this… thing

[brittle garnet]

you did not say "might"

you literally said "it's the first one you get"

[opaque sigil]

as in it's the first one

obviously different meanings in those contexts

[brittle garnet]

yeah, you start the game with it, because, crests hold the slots for tools, and it would be weird to start the game without one

[opaque sigil]

equivalency between get and starting clearly includes initial possession

[opaque sigil]

would not remotely be weird to start the game without one if you get the opportunity to get one before you need it

that's a super normal thing for games to do

[brittle garnet]

it's in a vendor

[trim estuary]

Why don’t they have share suite on

[brittle garnet]

you could not buy it and you wouldn't have money to begin with

there wouldn't be a "You need this to engage in the basic mechanic of equippable items" as an optional purchase in a store

[opaque sigil]

again not that weird for games to make you buy something

[trim estuary]

Why are you guys discussing whether or not Hornet has a crest at the start of the game

[opaque sigil]

hk makes you go to a vendor to buy the ability to update your map

[brittle garnet]

this is irrelevant

ok let me rephrase, HK had you start out with 3 charm notches. Why would they change this and require you to buy something to be able to equip stuff

[subtle lynx]

Because we know she does

Wait that wasn't the question

[opaque sigil]

because they can?

[trim estuary]

Isn’t the one time we see Hornet get a crest when she stabs that corpse

[silver oak]

This is so dumb

[opaque sigil]

makes you engage with the store more meaningfully

[subtle lynx]

Yes

[olive bobcat]

Ban both of them

[opaque sigil]

it is

[wide quartz]

ban me

[brittle garnet]

besides "necklace that increases shell shards drop" is not how you would describe a crest.

[fiery burrow]

Making you buy stuff at a shop can help establish currency being useful

[opaque sigil]

it would be if it was a crest that made shell shards drop and it was a necklace

[brittle garnet]

that is missing the point

[wide quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283467363729408000/1267116282306625608/1121213738448588991.gif

[trim estuary]

You know who didn’t miss the point? My talking sword!

[brittle garnet]

but crests aren't little equippables that give you a single effect

[opaque sigil]

they have a lot of effects

and describing one of those effects isn't incorrect

[silver oak]

Ha! I think that enemy got, the point!

[brittle garnet]

that didn't happen thankfully

i can't wait to laugh at you when i am inevitably proven right

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

[opaque sigil]

I'm too lazy to find that lincoln quote

[silver oak]

Arch are you arguing that crests aren’t physical things? I don’t understand

[opaque sigil]

he is

[brittle garnet]

do you understand the difference between crests and tools

[fiery burrow]

Yeah they're metaphysical dream realm entities

[silver oak]

I think both crests and tools are real physical objects

Why would this not be the case

[jade canopy]

Crests are concept which only belong in the realm of ideas, which we cannot grasp, us being stuck down in the cavern

[brittle garnet]

my argument is that the highlighted word is meant to be tools instead of crests, and that the "necklace which increases shell shard drops" is a tool

[jade canopy]

Also you can buy them for rosaries

[opaque sigil]

and you base that off of begging the question and asserting that because crests are immaterial they can't be worn

[brittle garnet]

why? Other than this one sentence in the article, what would suggest crests being physical objects

[silver oak]

Common sense?

[brittle garnet]

i mean they don't have evidence of being wearable :)

[fiery burrow]

why would they not be...

[olive bobcat]

I trust the person who spoke with Team Cherry, personally

[opaque sigil]

they have as much evidence as tools

[brittle garnet]

less!

[opaque sigil]

simply false

[fiery burrow]

What are you purchasing at a shop

[brittle garnet]

so there's no reason?

[fiery burrow]

Something that doesn't exist physically?

[brittle garnet]

i am arguing that what they're purchasing is not a crest, but a tool

[fiery burrow]

Yeah which is dumb and baseless

[brittle garnet]

???

[jade canopy]

"Unlike the charm which had a vague sense of socketing into the knights shell"

You put tools into crests
They are physical cuz you put stuff into it

[brittle garnet]

purchasing the game's equivalent of charms is dumb and baseless?

[opaque sigil]

that's not even a concealed strawman

[fiery burrow]

what are you waffling about

[brittle garnet]

oh i just misunderstood the point of that message

[fiery burrow]

You have no reason to assume its not a crest other than your weird assumption that they are not physical

[opaque sigil]

it's entirely circular reasoning

[brittle garnet]

that's what you're doing

[opaque sigil]

it's assuming that tools are wearable then assuming that because of that assumption that must have been actually a tool and not a crest

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/argue-argument-fight-fighting-whats-happening-gif-14099415

[silver oak]

Charm notches are physical items you can pick up in the game world, crests are described in the same ways notches are

[brittle garnet]

you're using the description using the word crests to argue that it is in fact meant to say crests

[silver oak]

?????

Are you trolling us

Is this an elaborate bit

[opaque sigil]

yes... I'm using the fact that the author who has the context and recorded interviews and presumably basic language comprehension has more basis for aligning that with crests than you do for saying it's a tool

that's

[fiery burrow]

if [crests] is written that means that something made them believe it was in fact a crest

not a tool

[brittle garnet]

notches are never described that way

notches are never described as being worn

while charms are, and that sentence is comparing to charms

and tools are silksong's equivalent of charms

[olive bobcat]

I meaaaan

[opaque sigil]

the funny thing is that it's possible the writer was wrong it's just not something there's any good reason to believe

[brittle garnet]

well i have what i see as good reason

[olive bobcat]

I mean like

Is there any point to have been arguing this for like 30 minutes

[opaque sigil]

it's funny

[olive bobcat]

This is just a matter of pride at this point

[brittle garnet]

boredom

[silver oak]

So when the charm notch in the fungal ogre arena falls from the ceiling and you lean down and then it’s in your inventory, you’re just…. imagining all of that?

[brittle garnet]

also "one of the crests increases shell shard drops" would be misinformation which is what i responded to initially

[opaque sigil]

charm notches are weird and don't really make sense

[olive bobcat]

It's the spores duh

[silver oak]

Oh true

[shell yacht]

what, is it a blue moon or something what the hell

[subtle lynx]

#hk-lore

[silver oak]

Ok whatever I shouldn’t be engaging

[shell yacht]

actual silksong discussion.. kindof
am i imagining this

[olive bobcat]

Hollow Knight has no lore

[brittle garnet]

i didn't say notches weren't physical objects but they're not really described much, and even tc says that charms have this weird idea of socketing into the knight's shell in some unspecified way (because the way charms and notches are equipped is not explained in-world)

[stoic sigil]

The one time there's actual Silksong discussion it's lame

[brittle garnet]

increasing shell shard drops is also a weird thing to put on a crest which we know has the main effect of changing your entire moveset

while being something perfectly suitable for a charm (thus tool in silksong)

[opaque sigil]

wouldn't really be weird at all crests do a bunch of things

[jade canopy]

"Charms notches are physical items…"

You answer

notches are never described that way

Stop moving the goalposts smh

[opaque sigil]

it's a gish gallop

[brittle garnet]

it would be weird to have them do unrelated things which could very well be put into the dedicated equippable system explicitly meant

[opaque sigil]

but they do do unrelated things

[brittle garnet]

no, that's no what was said.

"Charm notches and crests are described the same way"

no they aren't

[brittle garnet]

you can't say they are unrelated because we don't know what they are

[opaque sigil]

I can say they do things beyond modifying your moveset

[opaque sigil]

's right there

[brittle garnet]

but you can't say they are unrelated

[opaque sigil]

so it's the purity fallacy then

[brittle garnet]

because we don't know what they are

[opaque sigil]

you can't say that increased shell shard drops are unrelated to a crest's buffs anyways

one could absolutely be centered around boosting red tools or something

[brittle garnet]

it would also be kind of weird for Will to "not be led on" to what those other abilities are, and then later just show that it includes increasing shell shard drops

[olive bobcat]

mrbbrbrmrrm
morning cold and cruel
bed soft and warm

[opaque sigil]

nope

[brittle garnet]

why

[opaque sigil]

saying one thing one crest does and then not saying more things other crests do is entirely reasonable

[brittle garnet]

but saying he won't say what those functions are in general and then showing it anyway would be inconsistent, and at this point it would be a mistake equivalent to typing in crests instead of tools

[novel parrot]

Hello Sever from Hollow Knight :D, tell me, is there a date for SilkSong?

[opaque sigil]

wouldn't be inconsistent in the least

or a mistake

[opaque sigil]

no

[brittle garnet]

why wouldn't it

[jade canopy]

Bed is good

[opaque sigil]

.

[brittle garnet]

you're just saying things

[brittle garnet]

stating "it is because it is"

you didn't say why

[fiery burrow]

you're arguing against edge mag at this point

[novel parrot]

to keep waiting..

[jade canopy]

Also #hk-announcements

[opaque sigil]

because showing one thing about one crest is different from saying a bunch of other things about other crests too

there's a difference between an example of a thing and showing every one of the things

[brittle garnet]

yeah the edge mag was written by a person that was shown another person playing a game over a discord call, which she did not play herself

it's not infallible

[opaque sigil]

it's a far better source than you

[stoic sigil]

I'm going to #hk-meme

[brittle garnet]

especially since [crests] is not a word that was said by team cherry

[opaque sigil]

the possibility that it's wrong doesn't mean it's wrong just because you imagine it to be

[opaque sigil]

most likely false

[brittle garnet]

well i'm just rguing that possibility

[opaque sigil]

no you're not

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[olive bobcat]

Explain this then

[brittle garnet]

because? if it's in square brackets it means the writer added that word for what they thought the context was

[grand ferry]

how long ago

[olive bobcat]

Lemme check

[brittle garnet]

that's what square brackets mean

[opaque sigil]

no

it's adding that word because of what the context is

it's not just guessing and sticking things in

[olive bobcat]

October 17th, 2020

[brittle garnet]

a person can misunderstand the context especially when not familiar with the concept already

[gloomy hill]

Lame we already saw that crest show us a new one

[fiery burrow]

you have no reason to assume they misundestood the context except if you already go off of that assumption in which case you are using an assumption to justify that same assumption

[silver oak]

When I have reading in the morning before class I just pull my laptop into bed with me and accept I may fall back asleep and not get anything done

[brittle garnet]

i didn't just decide out of the blue that they misunderstood

[olive bobcat]

No

[gloomy hill]

[opaque sigil]

you decided out of the blue that crests are nonphysical and tools are worn and so they must've misunderstood

doesn't really change things

[olive bobcat]

I've got class at 9:30 on a couple days and I keep waking up at 8, falling asleep, and waking up again at 9:40

[silver oak]

This is because the AC in my room is full blast 60 degrees all the time with no temp control

[brittle garnet]

no

[opaque sigil]

F

[weary tapir]

Streets are saying JJK ending was rushed

[grand ferry]

based

[olive bobcat]

Happened yesterday, I saw it was 9:47 and was just like "ughh... fuck."

[weary tapir]

Can anyone vouch

[gloomy hill]

Lucky my class starts at 7:45 I have to wake up at 5:30 to get to school

[silver oak]

Set more alarms

[opaque sigil]

why would you go back to sleep at 8 though

can you just not

[olive bobcat]

Are you in uni or high school

[gloomy hill]

High school

[olive bobcat]

I use one

[olive bobcat]

lol

[uncut citrus]

same bestie

[gloomy hill]

I wanna sleep in

[fiery burrow]

i haven't read it
But from what I've heard the ending was announced like 5 chapters before it happened? There's no way that isn't rushed

[brittle garnet]

no, the part of the article seemed dissonant and internally inconsistent with what we know, which is why i think it's a misunderstanding.

[gloomy hill]

[silver oak]

I have two clocks so I can have an 8 (I am technically awake) and an 8:15 (ok for real now)

[olive bobcat]

Maybe you should grow up

[opaque sigil]

dissonant with your assumptions and (ex)ternally inconsistent with your assumptions

[brittle garnet]

the crests not being physical isn't just something i decided, it's something that is shown

[olive bobcat]

Outside of those days my schedule is pretty chill

I don't have to wake up until noon on three days of the week

[uncut citrus]

doesnt always gets better

[brittle garnet]

you're just saying things

[olive bobcat]

Your schedule is your oyster

[weary tapir]

LMFAOOO

[silver oak]

Everyone says stuff

[weary tapir]

WHA

[opaque sigil]

everyone is saying things it's what the things are that matters

[gloomy hill]

Waking up at 5:30 5 days a week then having it ingrained so that you wake up at 5:30 everyday even weekends is NOT fun

[olive bobcat]

Yeah that's why I said grow up, go to college

[shell yacht]

its terrible

[silver oak]

I’ve been good around sleep this semester

[brittle garnet]

but what the things are is also up to interpretation

[gloomy hill]

I want to but colleges are like “you need to go through high school first” and bs just lemme get my degree smh

[opaque sigil]

that's such a total non sequitur

[brittle garnet]

perhaps

[olive bobcat]

Anyways uni is pretty fun

The work is harder but the schedule is nicer

[kindred pewter]

Aluo, JJK has ended....I can rest, we can rest

[opaque sigil]

the schedule can be nicer or it can be worse

depends on when your classes are

[olive bobcat]

I haven't read the last chap yet, I'm waiting for Sunday

[dapper dove]

mid is finally joever...

[kindred pewter]

last chapter is available, and uhh

[opaque sigil]

I had like a 9-10pm class one semester

[gloomy hill]

I have clearly proven and surpassed even my own school’s syllabus, I learned fucking calculus 2 years before school teaches it to us, learned Binomial theorem a year early learned Trig 3 years early, WHERE IS MY DAMN DEGREE SMH

[spare fractal]

oh we talking about university?

[olive bobcat]

Yeah

[kindred pewter]

||The middle finger of sukuna is in the shed that the first finger was found in jjk|| you will be stupid if you open this spoiler

[cunning geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397062813949886466/1271244757494005843/IMG_3936.gif

[olive bobcat]

You're not there you aren't part of this

[olive bobcat]

Already did, it's rushed anyways what could go wrong

[opaque sigil]

I don't know what this means

[spare fractal]

yeah but it still interests me because I'm gonna be there in a few years

[cunning geode]

9PM commute

[olive bobcat]

Anyways ||does that mean two were there||

[olive bobcat]

A few? Damn you young young huh

[opaque sigil]

well I was on campus then so it was just walking there

[cunning geode]

zim is walking

[opaque sigil]

cap

[cunning geode]

he’s bald

[silver oak]

I had a 9 am last year

[kindred pewter]

||No, sukuna ate 19 fingers, the last finger was used by Nobara to damage his soul, This one finger cannot revive or get sukuna a vessel as he is dead, so this finger is just a boost in curse energy and nothing else. It is the end of a cycle, but for sukuna||

[silver oak]

Earliest this semester is 9:30

[grand ferry]

stay on campus

[opaque sigil]

I woke up really early while at uni so 9am wasn't that bad but like most people aren't up at 4am so I get it

[cunning geode]

my earliest is 12:40… this is what it’s like being a senior

[dapper dove]

which country do you go to university in

[spare fractal]

Yeah, I'm just a freshman

[olive bobcat]

Doesn't sound like bad writing to me

[cunning geode]

that and being a walking heap of a person

like swamp thing

[dapper dove]

you don't have to worry about it at this stage lmao

[kindred pewter]

it's pretty decent, but the fans are complaining cause they expected more and ||No gojo revival||

[opaque sigil]

living off campus genuinely was pretty nice, had more space and privacy and the university deducted the rent cost from tuition though idk if all will do that

[olive bobcat]

||Ngl I kinda expected another Gojo revival too ||

[kindred pewter]

||I huffed the copiums, I was in the mines, traded stocks with everyone, but no gojo revival||

[hollow terrace]

anyone seen transformer one yet

[kindred pewter]

||My stocks at least paid off with nobara||

[shell yacht]

it was everything else that was ass

[kindred pewter]

me but when I was like young

[cunning geode]

i saw. grand budapest hotel

[grand ferry]

deducting rent cost from tuition, thats rare

[kindred pewter]

all I remember from transformers one is "Autobots! do the fortnite dance!"

[opaque sigil]

I think it's to do with the fafsa stuff but idk

[kindred pewter]

am I right?\

[olive bobcat]

||Nobara return like 5 chapters before the ending tho||

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[kindred pewter]

||Gege did foreshadow her, but fucking vaugely||

[runic atlas]

||Nobara ex machina||

[kindred pewter]

Hopefully gege's next manga is good

[kindred pewter]

I heard it's some idol manga, so who knows

[kindred pewter]

is that the girl from the letters you see when you sleep?

[olive bobcat]

Yuh

[kindred pewter]

people around me play ZZZ but like I don't like gacha games

only one game is an exception to me and nothing else

[dapper dove]

jimbus company

[kindred pewter]

it's called ligma company

[olive bobcat]

Yeah I don't plan to play it

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[olive bobcat]

But I like some of the designs, like Jane and Ellen

My friend already made Ellen so I did Jane

[kindred pewter]

Typo said he would play it....I wonder how he's doing (limbus company not ZZZ)

[kindred pewter]

for me a friend of mine plays ZZZ a lot

and he talks about the game and characters

so I know about the game and the lore through him

[kindred pewter]

Andyguys

[olive bobcat]

Yeah a couple of my buddies play it a lot

Every time I get them together they discuss it

[kindred pewter]

same with leauge weirdly

[olive bobcat]

https://youtu.be/OCbp7M4Di4o

Ignore what anime it is, the song is good

[grand ferry]

tell

[olive bobcat]

Monogatari

[grand ferry]

thank

[kindred pewter]

I heard about this anime

[olive bobcat]

Still debating if I should try it

[kindred pewter]

about something something

[olive bobcat]

It sounds interesting and I like the music but it looks so sus

[kindred pewter]

if you want to, you can, just know it's made by hoyoverse

I think

[olive bobcat]

Who

[versed pollen]

Genshin devs

[fiery burrow]

Genshin was peak so I'll give it a shot

[versed pollen]

What the Starpengu

[olive bobcat]

Was it really

[grand ferry]

i feel so sorry for you

[dapper dove]

genshin was bleh

[versed pollen]

Another Starpengu banger

[dapper dove]

mid

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/yotsugi-ononoki-tsukihi-araragi-monogatari-monogatari-series-monogatari-off-season-gif-13885017570704970307

[fiery burrow]

oh my god peak just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBv4592WHhY

[kindred pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/pregnant-man-react-dont-dm-me-were-done-discord-react-dont-pregnant-man-react-me-gif-15172637796834483807

[olive bobcat]

Hop on really good music tho

https://youtu.be/I15sK7dNMOM

[kindred pewter]

This is the second time you have sent this (but it is good so valid)

[olive bobcat]

Bro I'm telling you my Japanese textbook has Rowley in it

[kindred pewter]

show me

[olive bobcat]

There's a page where you have to tell someone not to do different things, and the first 2 are

1. Don't call me
2. Don't come to my house

[kindred pewter]

your japanease textbook is peak

[olive bobcat]

Shrue

Let me send something in a sec, once I win this Witching Hour game

[runic atlas]

Wrong

[dapper dove]

I'm never wrong

[runic atlas]

This time you are

[fiery burrow]

hi never wrong

[runic atlas]

Genshin is peak

[fiery burrow]

Genshin is my second favorite game behind Persona

[dapper dove]

persona what

[olive bobcat]

@kindred pewter Alu do you like my doodle

[kindred pewter]

pretty good

[runic atlas]

You don't have to make the fact that you're trolling so obvious

I mean I'm not trolling I actually like Genshin

[kindred pewter]

Aluo will you be a manga artist and make a better jjk?

[olive bobcat]

Yes

[dapper dove]

jjk but filled with joy and whimsy...

[fiery burrow]

Well people aren't meant to fall for that

Persona is so bad I can't formulate bait defending it

[kindred pewter]

I fell for it

still the gif is funny

[runic atlas]

Unacceptable

I mean Star was right because Genshin is peak but persona?

Ewwwwww, stinky

[grand ferry]

nothing is peak

[dapper dove]

ssdisc having a mid off

[runic atlas]

Nu uh

[kindred pewter]

I will forgive your sins if you play Deus ex machima company

never disrespect the personas

[runic atlas]

Eventually

I promise I shall

[kindred pewter]

wait shit I mispelt Deus

ok no one noticed it good

[kindred pewter]

where's his hook

where's his pirate hat

this isn't Majima, this is an imposter!

[rustic ore]

Idk ive never played Banjo Yakuzooie

[kindred pewter]

you're missing out on peak

[rustic ore]

I have played half of the peak in this image

[fiery burrow]

bluds the weakest elder dragon he ain't gonna kill nobody

[atomic sparrow]

hey guys

[dapper dove]

I don't miss out on peak
peak misses out on me

[rustic ore]

By all means, say it to his face

[fiery burrow]

nobody in monhun

but everyone there is built different

[kindred pewter]

it's ok to lie on the internet

[dapper dove]

that's

yeah

[shell yacht]

nergigante might be a glass canon but thers a worse glass canon elder

[rustic ore]

nakarkos

[sacred stratus]

@rustic ore @shell yacht https://youtu.be/XPdu9Q9Kxbk?si=d3UQxwI2bGM1Veg1

[kindred pewter]

anyways check this cool vintage spinning wheel I bought for $700! waddya think guys? am I cooking?

[sacred stratus]

kut ku is back boys!

I'm so happy this little goober is back in full HD

[rustic ore]

TAMED KUT KUS
WHERE’S MHST3 RAAAAAaGH

[formal karma]

Neat

[shell yacht]

kirin

[stoic sigil]

Vintage Spinning Wheel or PS5 Pro

[dapper dove]

cool fucking blue flaming skull with the highlighted letter g

[kindred pewter]

Vintage Spinning Wheel all the way

[opaque sigil]

vintage spinning wheel 100%

[rustic ore]

Not really a glass cannon, those amped hitzones go crazy

[sacred stratus]

every MH sunbreak monster is a glass cannon

[atomic sparrow]

?

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-g-gif-6095767182148666383

[rustic ore]

“Sunbreak monsters are glass cannons” mfs when Espinas facetanks their entire TCS combo:

[sacred stratus]

spanish chase theme intensifies

https://tenor.com/view/espinas-kushala-monster-hunter-gif-25951296

[rustic ore]

[sacred stratus]

nah he goes down quickly too if you do it while he is enraged

[rustic ore]

i was never good at fighting Espinas

[sacred stratus]

same

[rustic ore]

I got gored every three seconds

[shell yacht]

espinas is just the "standing here i realize" dragon

[sacred stratus]

the delays man... fucks up my counter timings

[sacred stratus]

I want more frontier monsters in wilds

bring in Abiorugu or smt there is also that sea lion monster

[rustic ore]

Arkveld is basically Dragulos already

(Doragyurosu)

[sacred stratus]

it's weird we all thought rey dau was the flagship

only for Arkveld to be the one

[rustic ore]

He has more flagship vibes than Arkveld imo

[shell yacht]

yeah thats gonna make Dua rath teir unfortunately

[sacred stratus]

maybe you have 2 flagships in rivalry?

[shell yacht]

in strength

6 flagships

[rustic ore]

Most flagships ARE rath tier

[sacred stratus]

he looks like above rathalos tier

[sacred stratus]

they start a bit over that and go down from there

remember nargaq was originally G rank exclusive

[rustic ore]

Nargacuga, Tigrex, Rathalos himself, Seregios, Astalos, Glavenus, Gammoth, Mizu, they’re all on the same tier

And Lagiacrus

[sacred stratus]

Tigrex is still above Rathalos. usually thought a tier higher in old gen

[shell yacht]

lagi is +

[rustic ore]

And Zinogre

[sacred stratus]

I miss 4U zinogre

[rustic ore]

Regular Lagiacrus is on par with Rathalos

[sacred stratus]

I just miss that we won't have a victory theme like that again: https://youtu.be/6mPAEGPkDx0?si=EEPtslz4Bhp07poz

[shell yacht]

nah hes peak fitness

[sacred stratus]

new gen victory themes don't hit the same aside from the special ones

like the velkhana and arch temepered Nergi

[rustic ore]

Base Rise’s quest complete is peak idk what you mean

[sacred stratus]

it's nice it just gets old

[rustic ore]

Not to me

[sacred stratus]

https://youtu.be/Mv8-Pz0p_K8?si=QqGgSyugfcZLltEY
this one brings back good memories

fucking fire drill man

[rustic ore]

I’ve heard all of them before

[sacred stratus]

who thought fighting brach and stygian on the worst map in the series is a good idea

[rustic ore]

Hot take: I don’t like Stygian Zinogre, even a little bit

[sacred stratus]

G rank stygian is scarier than most series final bosses I swear he deletes 80% of your HP with the major hits and spawns a shit ton of homing orbs

[sacred stratus]

old one had more of an identitiy because of the homing orbs which was a nice challenge but he was overtuned in G rank

[rustic ore]

You don’t like getting bodyslammed to extinction?

[rustic ore]

The fuck is that

[strange night]

Me irl

[sacred stratus]

you try to counter the final attack of his combo only to be hit from behind by an orb

[olive bobcat]

Jane Doe

[sacred stratus]

not to mention he never fucking finishes his comboes

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-6131494135995645838

[shell yacht]

i love the monsters that get movesets like theyve survived hunters before

[rustic ore]

Oh the mouse girl

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-famished-rev-up-those-fryers-spongebob-time-to-eat-gif-4888266

[rustic ore]

Deviants

[sacred stratus]

I hope wilds has subspecies

[rustic ore]

I don’t see why not

[sacred stratus]

they are more of a G rank thing but they are awesome to spice up high rank

[rustic ore]

I smell a certain monster in our future…

[sacred stratus]

4U pink Rathian gatekeeping me

[rustic ore]

It’s going to be a flying wyvern from gen 4….

[sacred stratus]

...

Astalos?

Seregios?

[rustic ore]

Seregios

[warped nacelle]

Enneamos?

[rustic ore]

He is here…
I can sense it…

[sacred stratus]

I hope sergey is back and gets an actual variant for once

my boy Steve was done dirty

[warped nacelle]

Seregios and my bag full of bandages

[strange night]

Yokai watch is still better iirc

[sacred stratus]

the entire fun in the original fight was that he could combo anything into anything so you had to be quick and aggressive abnd keep him on the ground.
sunbreak just replaces that with preset comboes

and his gear was botched

plus only flagship to not have a variant

besides Velkhana

[quartz jacinth]

Ss discussion not discussing ss like usual lmao

[rustic ore]

Savagescale Seregios, where he just has jagged scales that don’t fit together anymore

He stays on the ground more and just lays into you in CQC

Off the top of my head

[sacred stratus]

sounds amazing actually

[strange night]

https://tenor.com/view/how-i-keep-the-rent-low-in-my-neighborhood-rent-low-neighborhood-how-i-keep-the-yo-kai-low-in-my-neighborhood-yo-kai-watch-3-gif-8574338822220078210

[quartz jacinth]

But when I post something slightly related to hk I get spam psa’d in off topic lmao

[opaque sigil]

it's almost like the channels have different rules

[rustic ore]

Well this aint hk discussion

[warped nacelle]

Wilds will be the biggest, will have 7 dlcs and every single monster ever according to our great grand medium Ennea of the morph

[rustic ore]

Do you see any Silksong news we haven’t already discussed ad infinitum?

[fiery burrow]

Wilds is gonna be peak

[strange night]

Off topic is supposed to always stay off topic
Any other channel is also allowed to go off topic, but are meant to usually stay relevant to the channel's namesake

[fiery burrow]

Better than world and rise

[strange night]

Yeah the one that comes out tomorrow

[rustic ore]

I’m having another vision…

[fiery burrow]

shame about ig though

[quartz jacinth]

Fair. But the fact that it isn’t usually relevant to the channel’s namesake that makes me confused lol

[warped nacelle]

wilds will also feature 10 new weapons

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-insect-glaive-spin-wee-gif-10421451081190366917

except the lobotomy move

[strange night]

Basically
Talking about hk in off topic is bad
Talking about off topic anywhere else is usually fine lmao

[rustic ore]

Agnaktor will strong return…

[fiery burrow]

Talking about HK is always bad

[quartz jacinth]

Lol

[strange night]

The main difference in channels is frankly the people you'll find in them

[rustic ore]

And he will have a turf war with a new volcanic resident…..

[warped nacelle]

the return of zorah magdaros plus a variant

[fiery burrow]

zorah but they make him fun

[warped nacelle]

the real zorah magdaros reveal is the actual earth, it was a monster all along

will you destroy earth to hunt