#sk-discussion

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wide quartz
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ds3 bosses are way easier

fallen blaze
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They do not play around about hk meme

kindred pewter
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who the hell goes to hk-meme

grand ferry
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you

kindred pewter
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I am a pure soul, I will never use mid like hk meme

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only use ss-discussion cause its....yknow

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it's peam

hazy silo
dapper dove
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missed another hating session

fiery burrow
wheat sail
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Hades is the best traditional roguelike

silk zodiac
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first draft for casual playthrough done in like a cuppa minutes did I cook or is it ass

kindred pewter
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I can host a hating session right now

wheat sail
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Sunflower should be a S imo

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Isn't it essential

kindred pewter
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this list is ok

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I would say you cooked medium raw

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not good but not bad

wooden echo
silk zodiac
# wheat sail Isn't it essential

to answer your question i think you can beat the game without sunflower iirc but this is casual and they're still high in A but you're not gonna win with mainly sunflowers alone so not S where big damage plants/super handy plants are (tbh pot should be higher than lily pad for sure)

silk zodiac
silk zodiac
wooden echo
wheat sail
silk zodiac
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yeah which is why they're high up in A

wheat sail
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It should be S then!!!

silk zodiac
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i think S is more so for broken plants tbh or like i said big damage / super handy

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ok i'll boost up twin then at least

wheat sail
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Naww not twin

silk zodiac
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because that's what i just did

wheat sail
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Single is the more cost efficient one

runic atlas
wheat sail
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I gotta go drive so 😭

silk zodiac
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i'll swap them

white sailBOT
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dynoError Couldn't find user

wide quartz
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?avatar @kindred pewter

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wide quartz
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sorry for triple ping

runic atlas
kindred pewter
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so

silk zodiac
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i was about to say

kindred pewter
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have you guys heard about the hit game ultrakill where you play as a gay robot

silk zodiac
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that's robot yuri pfp

kindred pewter
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no

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thats

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V2 dumbass

silk zodiac
runic atlas
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So much worse

silk zodiac
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🐇

runic atlas
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How is that Yuri

silk zodiac
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i saw that post like yesterday and chao beat me to pointing it out first

kindred pewter
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ok so

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thats not V1 thats mirage

silk zodiac
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yes

kindred pewter
runic atlas
kindred pewter
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if I had talked it would be more worse, if I didn't talk, it would also be worse

kindred pewter
runic atlas
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We could tell

kindred pewter
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I guess the artist wanted to draw female V2

silk zodiac
kindred pewter
runic atlas
runic atlas
kindred pewter
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first, I can't say the P word and the M word

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then, people found out my pfpf

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now this

dapper dove
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peak peak mid peak mid mid peak

kindred pewter
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I'm cooked

runic atlas
kindred pewter
runic atlas
wide quartz
dapper dove
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smile

runic atlas
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What

kindred pewter
wide quartz
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is bocchi the one with the yellow cat

dapper dove
silk zodiac
wide quartz
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i dont think ive ever beaten pvz 1

kindred pewter
wide quartz
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i got reasonably far in pvz2 like 5 times

runic atlas
dapper dove
silk zodiac
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i wish pvz2 wasn't the mess it was

wide quartz
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what wrong with it

dapper dove
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ea

wide quartz
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i havent played in years lol

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oh

silk zodiac
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the way the game is now compared to how it was when it released is horrible, like it has a lot of cool things if it wasn't for the fact most cool things cost 5.00 INDIVIDUALLY

kindred pewter
silk zodiac
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also my god

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did you see how they added scaredy shroom

wide quartz
silk zodiac
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as a pay to own plant

dapper dove
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i tried playing it without microtransactions

wide quartz
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my first experience with microtransactions in any game was pvz heroes

dapper dove
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it was an experience

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good thing mods exist 👍

silk zodiac
kindred pewter
wide quartz
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i think ive spent like 10 hours downloading pvz heroes

silk zodiac
wide quartz
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i kept spending ages downloading it and then deleting it after about an hour cause it played so badly

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rinse and repeat

silk zodiac
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oh beastcry

wide quartz
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you couldnt close the game or it would stop downloading feelspkman

runic atlas
silk zodiac
# silk zodiac did you see how they added scaredy shroom

happy 2023!!! this year i hope to make my content even better than what it was last year!
...what do you mean 2023 is already halfway over?

0:00 - Intro
0:50 - What is Scaredy-shroom?
2:51 - Scaredy-shroom VS. Plants vs. Zombies 2
10:15 - Scaredy-shroom VS. Just Zombies
16:10 - Why Was Scaredy-shroom Added?
20:13 - Improving Scaredy-shroom
22:4...

▶ Play video
kindred pewter
runic atlas
silk zodiac
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look how bad scaredy looks it's soooo bad

warped rock
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?avatar kirbstar

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kirbstarggp
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silk zodiac
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theft

kindred pewter
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kirbstar jumpscare

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wait

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if I use kirbstars pfp

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does that make me kirbstar?

runic atlas
silk zodiac
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no it makes you imposter

runic atlas
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First you have to kill them

wide quartz
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NO I AM SPARTACUS

dapper dove
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I... am kirbstar

dapper dove
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heinous

runic atlas
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This! Is! Kirbstar!

kindred pewter
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it's been 5 seconds

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yeah he's dead

runic atlas
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Congrats on becoming the new kirbstar

kindred pewter
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yay

dapper dove
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kirbbean has new competiton

runic atlas
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You shall now hunt down Andy and fight him in a Tesco parking lot

kindred pewter
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I may be depressed but i'm kirbstar

kindred pewter
runic atlas
kindred pewter
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oh you don't know about me

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I have fought entities that shouldn't even exist, slain creatures beyond the mortal realm, and envoked the phoenix of death

trim estuary
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Invoked*

kindred pewter
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Uh nuh uh

silk zodiac
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autocorrectius

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smh

trim estuary
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Okay fine

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Evoked*

wide quartz
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i went to town earlier and then realised i wanted to buy the lovecraft anthology from the bookstore soulpensive

wheat sail
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But your mother revived me

wheat sail
kindred pewter
wheat sail
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I'm not in front of you though

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I'm in front of ta mére

strange night
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Ok

wheat sail
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Wow rude

strange night
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Yeah.

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I'm a rebel.

wheat sail
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A stinky one

violet path
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good morning usa

wheat sail
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good morning south africa

violet path
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i have a feeling

dapper dove
wheat sail
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that tonight's gonna be a good morning USA

dapper dove
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i want to delete california

wheat sail
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Then do it

kindred pewter
dapper dove
violet path
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based in the big 24

wheat sail
kindred pewter
lament lotus
kindred pewter
# wheat sail

every single human is a zombie, billions must plant

kindred pewter
wheat sail
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every human must zombie

violet path
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braainz

cunning geode
cunning geode
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any human that dies becomes a zombie

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JONATHAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING

violet path
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WHAT is the context

wheat sail
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It's a better call Saul scene

violet path
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freaky ah show

wheat sail
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PvZ zombies munching on wall nuts

deep laurel
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is this what they mean by "be yourself" ?

violet path
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werent you in scream

deep laurel
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not the person I picked the name for but it barely matters

real pagoda
dapper dove
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ragebair buzzsaw

wheat sail
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Your emotions ... are mine

dapper dove
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Your mother... is mine

flat remnant
dapper dove
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steve was never the same after the tofu incident....

violet path
wheat sail
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I am ... Peeved

trim estuary
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Are you ... Reeved

charred surge
fiery burrow
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My name is brine... but I ain't no hero 🗣️

wheat sail
wheat imp
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playing super metroid rn, it's REALlY gud, highly suggest

wheat sail
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It's... Super good

shell yacht
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@full rune blacklist this img k thx bye

hollow terrace
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Idk whats with movie suits and making these super real and ugly

dapper dove
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how much do you bet its ai generated

shell yacht
hollow terrace
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Zero cause that’s not how AI works at all

trim estuary
shell yacht
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ai combining the ugliest minecraft texture mods with rl craft:

warped rock
dapper dove
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so someone had to make that lel

silver oak
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Any silkers in chat

hollow terrace
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yes

trim estuary
trim estuary
hollow terrace
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Not saying they were passionate or really believed in it but someone put hours in designing and modeling it

dapper dove
silver oak
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yeah

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that’s my thing

shell yacht
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get a new thing

hollow terrace
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I had a thing before

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My gizmo

silver oak
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Lost nitro again?

hollow terrace
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tomatoPunished it’s a prime sub

silver oak
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You can do that?

shell yacht
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linking subs for discord emotes has been a thing since uhhhh

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when did i get modded

hollow terrace
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Yeah it’s that whole connecting twitch to discord

atomic sparrow
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hey guys

shell yacht
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2018/2019 at the latest

hollow terrace
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and joining those streamers discords

trim estuary
wheat sail
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Omidri

finite flax
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eat poop

wheat sail
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nah...

trim estuary
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LEGO LORD OF THE RINGS IS ON TWITCH PRIME REWARDS

wheat sail
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They're sending out Legos now??

trim estuary
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YEAH

wheat sail
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🔥🔥🔥🔥

wide quartz
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the game or a physical lego set

wheat sail
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The ladder

broken tartan
dapper dove
north flame
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reponse :0

broken tartan
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Top 10 sigma MelonMan moments

north flame
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I sentence you to death by p5ab for being brainrot

uncut citrus
atomic sparrow
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hey guys

silver oak
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hi

silver oak
silver oak
north flame
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??

stoic sigil
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We should ban the person below me

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Necro should I do mod app

sinful flare
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wrong screenshot

stoic sigil
uncut citrus
broken tartan
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Any songers in chat

silk zodiac
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I am placing blocks and shit

fiery burrow
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Youtube recommending me PEAK rabbitholes to fall down into

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"The Silksong coping iceberg"

sinful flare
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wanna hop on

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i love ryze

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UNCLE RYZE

silk zodiac
wheat sail
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As a child, we would wait

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And watch from far away

silk zodiac
sinful flare
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hop on

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midlock..,

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im league

silk zodiac
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hopping on league of mid

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rn

uneven orchid
silk zodiac
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thank you noxie soulpensive

sinful flare
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UNCLE RYZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

north flame
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guys if your friend says hop on league of legends they've been hacked league of legends gives you a virus called league of legends

sinful flare
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ULT ME INNNNNNNN RYZE UNCLE RYYYYYYYZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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TAKE US TO NEW YORK CALIFORNIA

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🦅

wheat sail
marsh ibex
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honestly totk is pretty cool so gat

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Far

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Still on starting island because I’m slow

fiery burrow
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what abilities have you gotten so far

wheat sail
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Slowrun

silk zodiac
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lil bro thinks he's me

wheat sail
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Jungle morde vomits and cries

marsh ibex
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Rauru said I can get to the door now which makes no sense where’s recall

fiery burrow
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What are your thoughts

marsh ibex
fiery burrow
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its kinda QoL

marsh ibex
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I get that

olive bobcat
opaque sigil
formal karma
broken tartan
fiery burrow
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i should make a reddit account to downvote this guy

wheat sail
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It'sa trap

silk zodiac
formal karma
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Is the downvote worth the dedication?

north flame
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noo don't make a reddit account

fiery burrow
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Too late

broken tartan
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Ew mordekaizer player

formal karma
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Star on their way to shitpost

broken tartan
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Star on their way to hate on a random person

fiery burrow
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Team Cherry is comprised of 3 people actually

formal karma
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Start posting in the silksong reddit

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They'd love you

wheat sail
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GTA 6 only has 6 people

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And made a game 100x bigger

broken tartan
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You mean rockstar

wheat sail
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Who

formal karma
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It's Kirb so.... probably meant gta6

fiery burrow
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Literally genshin minus

runic atlas
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makes sense

runic atlas
broken tartan
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Eww who even plays genshin am i right

runic atlas
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also like surprisingly genshin's community is 50% gay people

wheat sail
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50%

runic atlas
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exactly

wheat sail
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Gay = gamble

runic atlas
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can confirm

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the other 50% is people that have so much money it's not even gambling to them

fiery burrow
runic atlas
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ehh they made it better

wheat sail
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The casino is my home

runic atlas
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and like you barely use resin

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im in the game for the story tbh

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it's peak

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oh and for the hot men and women but that's like a given

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that's people that can only think about the abyss

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7 out of 90 playable characters have melanin

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at least there are a ton of npcs that do in the latest update

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still a win in my book

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better than none

wheat sail
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I SMELLL ESTROGENNNN

runic atlas
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i joined for the gambling

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stayed because of the story

fiery burrow
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ZZZ better

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genshin has a STORY?

runic atlas
runic atlas
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not really

fiery burrow
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whats it about

wooden schooner
runic atlas
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why?

wheat sail
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Russia would never do anything

runic atlas
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then each nation has its own story

wooden schooner
runic atlas
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and overall it's about the friends we made along the way that were the real treasure

runic atlas
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technically 12

wooden schooner
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and they all have italian names

runic atlas
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technically 9

runic atlas
fiery burrow
wooden schooner
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they what

runic atlas
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you can't really judge something you haven't played

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also im talking about the recent story

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Mondstat and Liyue are like, fine

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Inazuma is

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kinda crap

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with good moments though

runic atlas
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Sumeru and Fontaine (especially Fontaine) are some of the best fiction i've witnessed

wooden schooner
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so like

runic atlas
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why

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for what reason

fiery burrow
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peak fiction is like holll9ow knight i love that game

atomic sparrow
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hey guys

runic atlas
runic atlas
wheat sail
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Andy from

wooden schooner
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France = Persia > China = Germany > Japan

atomic sparrow
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i am about to hollow your knight haha

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👿

fiery burrow
runic atlas
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What have you seen of Genshin's story

wheat sail
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It's like onori and Zelda had a baby

atomic sparrow
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who is onori ???

runic atlas
wooden schooner
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Le monde est une scène

runic atlas
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also why do you find it impossible to believe that people got better at something after years of work?

runic atlas
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i just told you

runic atlas
mental slate
broken tartan
runic atlas
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France = Fontaine
Persia = Sumeru
China = Liyue
Germany (technically more like middle europe) = Mondstat
Japan = Inazuma

runic atlas
fiery burrow
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whats genshins gameplay loop

broken tartan
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Uhh some men ( in genshin ) can make me swing the other way if ykwim

fiery burrow
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I mean that depends on the story you are telling

runic atlas
mental slate
atomic sparrow
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watch out i'm about to creepy your pasta

runic atlas
broken tartan
fiery burrow
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There is no generalization to be had

runic atlas
mental slate
broken tartan
runic atlas
lament coyote
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Virgin resin gacha system vs based alpha chad battle cats leadership flags system

broken tartan
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I hate having quests available

runic atlas
mental slate
fiery burrow
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I don't know why said limitations make it a poor medium

broken tartan
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-Ignore the main storyline
-gamble once every month

  • zotechad
runic atlas
fiery burrow
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Like maybe you can argue its a bit more difficult to tell a truly great story

mental slate
runic atlas
mental slate
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it’s pretty interesting

opaque sigil
runic atlas
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hoyoverse cares about the story, since it's the way it sells the chars to most people

wooden schooner
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ye um

fiery burrow
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Yeah? And books are a poor medium to tell a ton of stories in as well. Same with movies

wooden schooner
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maybe that's something else

runic atlas
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nah star is right

fiery burrow
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In what way

wooden schooner
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not all types of stories can be ported on one medium

runic atlas
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it's like saying that a book has to take advantage of the fact you can't actually see the scene otherwise it is a poor medium

wooden schooner
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using the strength of your medium is what makes it great

runic atlas
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and video games, especially open worlds, have a great strength: you can actually go and explore the world. the worldbuilding is way beyond anything else can really achieve

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the interactivness of games always enhances the story, because it actually makes you feel like you're there

fiery burrow
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Video games come with the limitation that you also want to like, play the game so you have to juggle story and gameplay

broken tartan
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Holy yap sesh

fiery burrow
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That makes them tricky but I don't believe that makes it generally a poor medium

runic atlas
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you don't view it through what the scenewriter wants you to see, you go where you want, move the camera where you want, and see what YOU want

broken tartan
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Genshin is pretty peak in explorstion i think

fiery burrow
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I agree with this yes

runic atlas
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they do not have to be inseparable

broken tartan
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Even playing as f2p i enjoyed genshin even before Liyue released

mental slate
runic atlas
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because then you would have to apply the same to every other medium

broken tartan
fiery burrow
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My argument was never "Bad books exist" it was that books have limitations that can make a story that would otherwise work in a different medium bad. Same principle as for video games and every medium really.

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I don't understand what you mean by "poor"

mental slate
fiery burrow
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Sure

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Higher skill requirement for a higher reward

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Of course the highest reward being Outer Wilds

runic atlas
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Books are inferior to Movies, because in a Movie you can show a scene directly and leave hints and tiny things scattered throughout it, while in Books you have to point everything out, making a potential suriprise less satisfying

fiery burrow
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Books do not have to spell everything out for you

runic atlas
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Movies are inferior to Books because you can't directly infiltrate into a character's mind and learn their thoughts

fiery burrow
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Hints do not have to be solely visual

runic atlas
fiery burrow
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Same difference

runic atlas
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Strawman is when I paint a thing to be your argument. I did no such thing.

runic atlas
# fiery burrow Same difference

"There was a lock on the table" "There was a very big, imposing, important looking lock on the table that may have some connections to the mystery at large"

mental slate
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Yeah but how does this affect the fact that Australia has impact on the region of Sumeru?

runic atlas
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your point is that games are a poorer medium because of their limitations, im saying everything has limitations

fiery burrow
fiery burrow
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Anyways writing a detail that may be important later is similar to showing a detail that may be important later

runic atlas
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but when the gameplay comes into play you consider it mainly a disadvantage and not an advantage

you dont consider how it can help you truly understand the journey that the character went thorugh, the hardships they fought

fiery burrow
runic atlas
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they don't have to be inseparable

obsidian ledge
runic atlas
runic atlas
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that isn't what i said

mfw strawman?

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i said you can get more attached to the protagonist since not only you get to see their journey, but you also have to go through it yourself

fiery burrow
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What is the advantage for using a video game over a different medium if the story and gameplay is separable

broken tartan
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ss-discussion? More like ss-discussion

fiery burrow
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If immersing yourself in the character's journey and feelings is that important (Like in say Subnautica) that's an example of the story and gameplay being inseparable

runic atlas
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and if there are so many games that fall under that

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then it makes no sense to say that "games are a poorer storytelling medium"

fiery burrow
runic atlas
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then the ideas of games being a poorer storytelling medium is wrong

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if so many of them succeed, then how is it poorer?

fiery burrow
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I don't think anyone argued that great video game stories did not exist

runic atlas
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and why not apply the "if the medium and story are not inseparable, the story as a whole is worse" to any other mediums

runic atlas
fiery burrow
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"poor storytelling medium" doesn't mean "impossible to tell a good story in"

runic atlas
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porting the same story to another medium

fiery burrow
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its not a quantitative statement

fiery burrow
runic atlas
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the difference is that there aren't "a few" games with great story, there are plenty

runic atlas
fiery burrow
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same with like LOTR and making it a comic

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or a movie feelspkman

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I don't know what the argument is though

runic atlas
runic atlas
# fiery burrow ???

games can't be a worse storytelling medium than the others if the idea of the two needing to be insaparable has to apply to everything

fiery burrow
runic atlas
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the fact that most times they're gameplay first and story second is a concious decision by the devs. It's like taking a crossword puzzle with a story tied to it and claim that the medium is inherently flawed because it needs to be used to the fullest for it to be good, it's not what 90% of crossword puzzles with a story aim for

fiery burrow
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They aren't claiming video games are bad zote

runic atlas
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if you were really to make a proper study you'd have to exclusively take into account games that focus on the story first and on the rest second

fiery burrow
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The story not being a priority is a good thing

runic atlas
verbal ocean
silk zodiac
fiery burrow
opaque lake
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With games, you have to think about how to tell your story through actively experiencing it. The open-ended nature of games can be a great tool, but it's at a cost.

I'm not really sure if it's inherently "poorer," but for sure if you have a great story with bad gameplay then it's just a bad game. Takes much more work to take advantage of the medium in a balanced way asall.

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that's entirely fair, yeah

fiery burrow
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Meanwhile MHW

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Waiter I'll have another unskippable cutscene please

marsh ibex
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oh zelda just gives us recall

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That’s nice I guess

runic atlas
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that games aren't a poorer storytelling device, because every time the story is actually the main focus, it turns out well. The idea that they're a poorer device comes from the fact that most games aren't mainly about the story, which is often a concious decision by the developer. The point is that it's not the medium's fault that the story feels worse than it would if one of the same quality would be in a book or show, but of the developers that actually chose to make the story lower quality in the first place. The point isn't the medium, because if the story actually took first place, I forgot how I wanted to end this sentence FUCK.

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sorry chat it's 1 in the morning i cannot continue with this

fiery burrow
marsh ibex
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what does that have to do with anything

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I thought I had to do another shrine to get it

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tf is your problem

opaque lake
runic atlas
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the fact that the player can interact is also a massive strenght, which i feel is being very overlooked

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i just dont agree that games are generally a poorer storytelling medium

marsh ibex
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Answer me headass

opaque lake
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It can be a massive strength yeah, but it's more difficult to balance

runic atlas
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actually hold on

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talking about the strength of a medium

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there is a video i absolutely need to share

marsh ibex
#

You randomly called me a kh fan tf is your problem

crisp socket
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bad timing?

atomic sparrow
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perfect timing

runic atlas
#

thsi

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this*

crisp socket
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ty but also he would probably

atomic sparrow
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riddle me this batman...

runic atlas
fiery burrow
# fiery burrow Well yeah the story is nice but the game suffers

The thing with games is you have 3 options

  1. Have the story take a backseat for gameplay.
  2. Have the gameplay take a backseat for the story. The pacing of your game is off and frequently interrupted and at that point its better off as a movie/book/whatever.
  3. You pull an Outer Wilds and the two are not distinct. The story does not necessarily suffer nor does Gameplay. This is when video games are a superior medium and the right call
atomic sparrow
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what is hollow... and also a knight...

crisp socket
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shoot vessels

shell yacht
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bullets are cheap
next question

runic atlas
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literally one of the best pieces of media ever

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no

opaque lake
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PK doesn't need a gun with all of the giant buzzsaws he has

crisp socket
runic atlas
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it's probably one of the best comics in history

fiery burrow
#

PK would probably use soul daggers for ranged attacks

runic atlas
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unironically

crisp socket
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but a 12 gauge is more fun

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yes

runic atlas
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chat there is already the AK-47 mod for that

atomic sparrow
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true

opaque lake
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yeah he said that in the prequel comic

crisp socket
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lmao

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soul shotgun

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yum

atomic sparrow
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soul master had soul balls

opaque lake
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PK had all of the soul balls

atomic sparrow
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no way...

fiery burrow
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yeah but he'd fire them like a gattling gun

opaque sigil
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2 mask damage, I'd hardly call em weak even if he can maybe do bigger shit

fiery burrow
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erm damage values are not canon

crisp socket
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yeah so shotgun it is

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dont question meh

fiery burrow
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could PK warm the soul in the air around him to ridiculously high temperatures

runic atlas
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chat why are you all talking about a bad game

fiery burrow
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like as hot as VF

crisp socket
crisp socket
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XD

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wait what

atomic sparrow
crisp socket
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exactly!

fiery burrow
#

speaking of y'all interrupted my u/Teamcherryisevil post conceptualization

crisp socket
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thou who say hollow knight is bad shall perish

runic atlas
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It's fucking trash

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Terrible story

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Bleak lore

crisp socket
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nuh uh

runic atlas
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Flat world building

crisp socket
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nuh UH

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fym

runic atlas
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No likeable characters

atomic sparrow
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MODS !!!

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BAN HER !!!

crisp socket
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QUIRREL

atomic sparrow
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RAGHHHHHHHHH

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HOLLOW KNIGHT IS AWESOME !

fiery burrow
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HK fans when they experience a game with good and complex enemies

crisp socket
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HOLLOW KNIGHT NR 1!

quartz cave
runic atlas
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No gameplay

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Boring and repetitive nail slashes and nothing else

crisp socket
runic atlas
rustic ore
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Bro is NOT Sabo

silk zodiac
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do scrappers not spawn on stage 1

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smh

fiery burrow
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oh I write about this today

rustic ore
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They do i think

fiery burrow
# runic atlas Boring and repetitive nail slashes and nothing else

erm what the yap
HK is one of the last games I'd describe as perfect. It was rushed with a measly budget of $75k which meant it had to be released before it was finished and that meant future DLCs (Namely the Grimm Troupe and Godhome) could not be as finely integrated into the map as they would be if they were part of the base game. The former especially is now a ridiculously boring fetch quest broken up by two good bosses.

Like most Metroidvanias it's plagued by very poor and generic enemy design, which wouldn't be too egregious were the combat system not designed in a way where the depth and complexity of combat would necessarily come from intriguing enemies. What we got instead was a hundred or so enemies with very similar behaviors all around and very little attack diversity (What attacks we did get are quite simple to dodge)

Around half or so of the bosses are boring and unengaging and more serve as a way to reward exploration more than anything else. Certain boss runbacks are very bad (Soul master springs to mind) and retrieving your shade often will lock you inside their arena which makes you bash your head against a wall over and over until you succeed instead of exploring and coming back later (Which is what the game teaches you to do after dying to the Mantis Lords)

rustic ore
silk zodiac
crisp socket
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are you kidding?

silk zodiac
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why would we ever joke around in ssdisc

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very serious here always

wheat sail
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ask joe

silk zodiac
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who's ligma

crisp socket
#

i am seriously praying that this is rage bait rn

atomic sparrow
#

grrr all hollow knight haters...

wheat sail
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joe bama

rustic ore
atomic sparrow
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will be hollowed out !

fiery burrow
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HK fans when interacting with ideas other than their own

fiery burrow
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we could've had CHARM GLORIFICATION

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it would FIX THE BALANCE

silk zodiac
fiery burrow
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HK has WL which bumps it up from a 5/10 to a 7/10

opaque lake
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i don't agree with the majority of these critiques. The "lack of enemy variety" imo is indicative of you looking for a different style of game. HK was largely inspired by old classics, and it shows.

subtle lynx
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all metroidvanias are mid

runic atlas
opaque lake
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and for many including myself, i enjoy that

runic atlas
#

White Lady?

fiery burrow
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Yes

runic atlas
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Ori 1 has better bosses than HK tbh

fiery burrow
#

The combat system is designed in such a way where the depth has to come from the enemies

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There is no intriguing or deep enemy combat to be had in HK

opaque lake
#

again, from what i've seen it just sounds like you're looking for a more engaging combat system, which is not what the point of the game was

fiery burrow
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The point doesn't really matter

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If it wasn't the point why'd they add 100+ enemies and 40 bosses

opaque lake
runic atlas
silk zodiac
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invincible mithrix here i come ||(ik they patched it)||

opaque lake
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its that simple

crisp socket
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are yall just mad at team cherry because silksong still isnt out?

fiery burrow
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no

fiery burrow
silk zodiac
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here anyway

crisp socket
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well if you dont explore you miss half of the game

opaque lake
subtle lynx
marsh ibex
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So the sheikah just stole the zonai’s whole flow huh

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Weird

crisp socket
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this feels weirdly personal...

fiery burrow
crisp socket
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come on theyre an INDIE STUDIO

vivid belfry
#

I guess it would be nice if HK enemies had deeper movesets but it works fine as is because the combat is more positioning based

atomic sparrow
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is r/Wehateteamcherry a thing ?

subtle lynx
fiery burrow
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I think the exploration is overall fine if a little bogged down by generic abilities

marsh ibex
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ok

fiery burrow
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There are some pretty linear areas though like Crystal Peaks

runic atlas
subtle lynx
quartz cave
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I wasnt

opaque sigil
atomic sparrow
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WOAH ?!

quartz cave
vivid belfry
atomic sparrow
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true...

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hey guys

crisp socket
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you were dropped as a kid

quartz cave
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10

marsh ibex
opaque sigil
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3

runic atlas
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Yes me neither but bargaining is important

fiery burrow
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@marsh ibex can you add the HK-hate channel already

opaque lake
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again i think the game just isn't for you 😭 there's no way to make it "perfect" when people have differences in taste. The shade mechanic is perfectly fine imo.

Some quests aren't really marked well though, i can agree on that. A little more there could've gone a long way.

atomic sparrow
quartz cave
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0

marsh ibex
atomic sparrow
opaque lake
runic atlas
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Can I say "It's true though" as a joke pretty please? (I don't actually mean it)

wheat sail
#

hk is okay

marsh ibex
runic atlas
opaque lake
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I already explained that it's meant to reflect retro games 😭😭

opaque sigil
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hk's main innovation is the open-ish progression system

wheat sail
silk zodiac
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how about we all play risk of rain 2 instead? grubomg

opaque lake
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bro just ignores that

subtle lynx
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mid, had potential to be good

fiery burrow
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HK is a kids game ffs its for 5 year olds you are way out of its target audience

runic atlas
crisp socket
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ok thats too far dude

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put some respect on retro games

quartz cave
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Chat i just murdered a guy but i was just trying to reflect war so im fine right

runic atlas
crisp socket
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so mario 64 is bad?

marsh ibex
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In comparison to games of today? Yeah?

fiery burrow
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Ocarina of Time is a proto-Breath of the Wild (the actual best game ever)

quartz cave
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With todays standards yes

vivid belfry
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Mario 64 is bad actually

crisp socket
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come on its a great game

vivid belfry
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Ocarina of time is alright

shell yacht
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mario 64 is dogwater

marsh ibex
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now? It’s pretty DRAGON

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what was I talking about

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it’s pretty bad

crisp socket
#

i am in so much pain right now

marsh ibex
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collectathons that boot you back to the main area are really lame

marsh ibex
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people like the bugs but ifc it’s extremely buggy

runic atlas
# crisp socket so mario 64 is bad?

1st off I never said every retro game

2nd off Fuck yeah it's a buggy mess with nonfunctional features, a horrible camera, bleak story and unresponsive controls

opaque sigil
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if you want to invoke retro games in a modern game there are ways to do it without just making the same mistakes people used to make

vivid belfry
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Mario 64 put all of its dev time into one of the best movement systems of all time and then did not try at all to design levels

subtle lynx
atomic sparrow
vivid belfry
fiery burrow
#

team cherry likes zelda 2 why do we even respect them again

quartz cave
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I dont

fiery burrow
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🤝

quartz cave
#

I spat at john cherrys grave yesterday

lament lotus
atomic sparrow
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NO

shell yacht
#

📩 📨

opaque sigil
crisp socket
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TF?

atomic sparrow
quartz cave
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Hes also the guy i murdered but-

vivid belfry
#

I don't recognize any of these people and I'm seeing a ton of bad takes is all

quartz cave
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That doesnt matter

crisp socket
#

WHAT

runic atlas
silk zodiac
vivid belfry
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You are the fucking joker

quartz cave
shell yacht
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none of yalls takes are ever taken seriously theyre so horrendously bad

crisp socket
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i mean mario story is always bowser kidnaps peach with a few exceptions but who plays mario for the story?

crisp socket
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like whats next?

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dont like tetris because it has no dialogue?

quartz cave
atomic sparrow
marsh ibex
quartz cave
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Like for example, concord was such an amazing game it shouldnt have been shut

runic atlas
subtle lynx
quartz cave
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Nvm it was SHIT

subtle lynx
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just look how realistic they look

fiery burrow
#

jokers a WHAT

quartz cave
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It was TRASH

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It SUCKED ASS

runic atlas
#

Also wtf why is this chat imploding

fiery burrow
#

blud made fun of me for liking RW while he's been playing KH all along???

quartz cave
#

Tbf rainworld is way more of a bad game

crisp socket
#

whats RW and KH?

shell yacht
#

RW is so bad

runic atlas
opaque lake
#

you said earlier that most of the metroidvanias you've played were mid. Yeah, you can voice your criticisms, but calling it awful, idk man. Like sure, fair enough, but again it just sounds like the genre isn't for you 😭 it's just not that deep

runic atlas
quartz cave
#

Rainworld is so unironically bad

fiery burrow
#

Tammo alts all over the shop

opaque sigil
#

rw is a fantastic digital terrarium

subtle lynx
runic atlas
shell yacht
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RW i thought yall were joking, but then i played it

crisp socket
hollow terrace
#

PLEASE

vivid belfry
quartz cave
vivid belfry
#

You have been trundled

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Yes it was

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No they weren't

runic atlas
crisp socket
#

oh

opaque sigil
#

play the prince of persia game it's a great metroidvania

quartz cave
#

TRUE

vivid belfry
#

That is true

fiery burrow
#

I was being sincere with my criticisms I just also posted them to piss people off

subtle lynx
quartz cave
#

Did you beat it btw grover

vivid belfry
#

Lost crown is like, maybe the third or fourth best metroidvania

runic atlas
#

I was in no way being sincere because I thought nobody would ever think I was serious

opaque sigil
#

oh yeah that dlc is coming out in like 10 days

runic atlas
#

That's how you get massacres

vivid belfry
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It's in third now, will probably get dropped to fourth when the blasphemous 2 dlc comes out

crisp socket
#

i felt my blood pressure rise with every fucking message

quartz cave
#

Anyways the lesson we learned was:
Nobody ever wins a fight on here, hk sucks
And rainworld is unironically trash

runic atlas
crisp socket
#

but i do

runic atlas
#

Unless it's Outer Wilds

fiery burrow
#

Rain World feels awful for the first 70 hours

quartz cave
fiery burrow
runic atlas
subtle lynx
#

you would win

opaque lake
#

yeah hk was secretly bad, everybody go home now.

crisp socket
#

nuh uh

wheat sail
#

team cherry one hit wonders

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🤷‍♂️

shell yacht
silk zodiac
#

was it really a secret shermasmirk

opaque lake
#

0% fun, 112% AWFUL GRAHHHH

subtle lynx
crisp socket
#

is this just how the hk server is at 1:30 am?

runic atlas
subtle lynx
fiery burrow
#

rain world players

runic atlas
marsh ibex
#

Shut up bro

fiery burrow
opaque sigil
#

I should start trolling tbh

subtle lynx
#

it's fun

silk zodiac
#

tammo troll arc

hollow terrace
#

mods where’s the BANS

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im tired

fiery burrow
marsh ibex
#

Yeau

trim estuary
crisp socket
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i feel pain in every fucking cell of my body

opaque lake
trim estuary
#

where did he go

runic atlas
subtle lynx
fiery burrow
#

every time i call broken vessel a girl powdered is mean wai

opaque sigil
crisp socket
#

someone cast testicular torsion

fiery burrow
#

and then when i ask joker if its allowed he deletes my question

wheat sail
#

go see a doctor

silk zodiac
#

aurelionite stage 2 🐇

trim estuary
silk zodiac
#

pz

opaque lake
#

you wanna check in every now and then to flex your gear though

marsh ibex
#

Time to meet purah

fiery burrow
#

worst part is i do it unintentionally maggotprime

crisp socket
#

what happens now?

fiery burrow
#

Grimm pfp hornettle

shell yacht
#

that explains it

#

youre both grimm pfps at heart

trim estuary
runic atlas
subtle lynx
fiery burrow
#

Deep down my name is 𝕲𝖗𝖎𝖒𝖒

marsh ibex
#

PURAH

runic atlas
trim estuary
marsh ibex
#

I literally sussed you out immediately

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yeah I fucking did

opaque sigil
shell yacht
#

you fooled joker bc i was on break

marsh ibex
#

I even mentioned it and was like “guys that’s kirb” and not a single person said anything

opaque sigil
#

I might've just watched

marsh ibex
#

And then you dmed me to delete it and play along

fiery burrow
marsh ibex
#

mk buddy

trim estuary
#

post the dms

shell yacht
#

i put notes on yalls profiles i know who you are zote

marsh ibex
#

okay why did link

subtle lynx
marsh ibex
#

not just

fiery burrow
#

Powdered whats my note

marsh ibex
#

immediately jump off the sky island

shell yacht
crisp socket
#

the fact that we didnt start the fire is playing is just...

fiery burrow
#

BRO WHAT OTHER STARS???

shell yacht
#

exactly

crisp socket
wheat sail
#

ooh heaven is a place on earth

subtle lynx
crisp socket
#

and hell is a town in michigan

crisp socket
#

after that is all star

marsh ibex
#

When do I get the paragliderrrr

runic atlas
fiery burrow
crisp socket
#

the silence is very loud

runic atlas
runic atlas
opaque sigil
#

he's early game

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very early

marsh ibex
#

No she told me to fuck off and meet some dude name hoz after I professed my love to her

leaden delta
#

what note did u put on me bug14

runic atlas
fiery burrow
#

L newbie

crisp socket
shell yacht
opaque sigil
runic atlas
marsh ibex
#

Ain’t no way I got a blood moon already

crisp socket
#

someBODY ONCE TOLD ME

shell yacht
#

yk considering i keep forgetting who you are i maybe should add one

fiery burrow
#

19 hours is nothing

#

Real gamers can put 300+ hours into all of our games easily

runic atlas
fiery burrow
#

mf thats 5 hours of sleep

runic atlas
runic atlas
#

On the 27th of August

crisp socket
#

are you ok?

runic atlas
#

So like, less than 5 hours of sleep

marsh ibex
#

oh the combat shrine is right at early game that’s nice

runic atlas
fiery burrow
silk zodiac
#

oh yeah

crisp socket
#

oh a black blob

silk zodiac
#

(i hate antlers sm)

shell yacht
#

wait jojo have u not played this before

marsh ibex
#

No

#

Just got totk

runic atlas
#

Me waiting for SR2 update

#

Reminds me I should get OW Collector's soon

shell yacht
#

slime rancher ate a solid 14h first time i booted it up

wheat sail
#

is that ROR2

marsh ibex
#

why is zonai shit so reminiscent of sheikah shit are the sheikah actual frauds

shell yacht
marsh ibex
#

Outer wilds probably

wheat sail
#

overwatch two

marsh ibex
#

Cough

runic atlas
#

LMAO

shell yacht
#

ah

#

outer mids

runic atlas
marsh ibex
#

so is the game telling me to go to hell before I get the oaraglidrr

shell yacht
#

probobally

shell yacht
#

yk i just remembered the playthrough i watched never ended bc the streamer was playing it with his gf and she dumped him despaircharm

crisp socket
#

i was gone for 50 seconds...

#

and this is what i come back to?

fiery burrow
#

i do NOT PLAY RAIN WORLD

warped rock
#

character developement 🥹

#

so proud of you

fiery burrow
#

the fact that these two are so close is sickening

marsh ibex
#

I forgot yo listen to npc

runic atlas
fiery burrow
#

i want the OW poster so bad

subtle lynx
fallen ember
fiery burrow
runic atlas
runic atlas
opaque sigil
crisp socket
#

sleepy time

#

GN

fiery burrow
#

kirb what the heck are you doing

opaque sigil
#

nice

#

change the nick quick

runic atlas
subtle lynx
#

Man what