sk-discussion

[coarse leaf]

hell yeah

[cerulean sable]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoblewomansLaugh

[stoic sigil]

Freddy Fazbear should be in Silksong

[cerulean moat]

I think have a boss being easier on second playthourgh is fine. It shows improvemnt

[cerulean sable]

oh you mean Lace's laugh itself

hold on

[formal marsh]

yeah but thats already pretty descriptive

[heady iron]

She's cute so it's fine

[opaque sigil]

godmaster doesn't make that a thing

[cerulean moat]

And I would never replay hk as a game religiously

After first playthrough it isn't that interesting

[opaque sigil]

godmaster if anything prevents that specific interaction because you're not just better at the game you've spent forever grinding away

[cerulean moat]

And godmaster helped me beat still heart first try

[cerulean sable]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxCBeaXqmItOo6vI1pLdjpyWwJrRLek5WW?si=W2WF5uZ6diNsgWwK

i just realize i love Hornet's death sound too

"WAOUGHHHHHH"

[coarse leaf]

Rip sharky...

[cerulean moat]

Wait the time it took to respawn was so quick

[cerulean sable]

yeah there is an emphasis on the game just being faster

[cerulean moat]

It was never that quick for me

On hk

[cerulean sable]

i mean not just gameplay but probably technical wise

[coarse leaf]

EAAAAUGHHHHH

[cerulean sable]

yeah it isnt, HK's death is a lot more slower

[hollow terrace]

"This spot marks our grave, but you may rest here too, if you like....."

[fiery burrow]

Lace's giggle is funny

[cerulean moat]

The ability to heal in midair is going be cool

[cerulean sable]

like if you notice the death in HK fades to black
whereas in Silksong it has this fast "explode to black" effect instead

[formal marsh]

oh thats infuriating

[cerulean moat]

Hopefully it doesn't take 5 seconds to load a room

[cerulean sable]

i also dig how the black screen originates from her

[coarse leaf]

so, when you die, you just lose some things, but there is no "shadow" to look for

makes sense

[opaque sigil]

ss should get rid of the explode to black and replace it with the katana zero rewind

[cerulean sable]

this is a demo btw, a very early on
we dont know if the death system is finalized

[formal marsh]

it's just going to make beating lace more satisfying though

[cerulean moat]

I think you lose all your money regardless

Yeah but you can't get it back

[coarse leaf]

in the video, hornet only loses 40

so, she lost 10%

[cerulean moat]

So you don't lose all

[coarse leaf]

not exactly, but close enough

[opaque sigil]

you can probably get all your rosaries back from the cocoon

[coarse leaf]

nope

[cerulean sable]

I always like how "if you like" part sounds like

"This mark spot marks our grave 😔. But you may rest here too 🥺, if you like... 😳 " tone to it in the voice acting

[cerulean moat]

No you only get silk not money

[opaque sigil]

the thing hornet 'lost' were shell shards she was repairing the tool

[opaque sigil]

that would make zero sense from a design perspective

[cerulean moat]

Yeah that's wasn't rosaries

[coarse leaf]

oh, makes a lot more sense, but, uh

what tool?

[opaque sigil]

you can probably get the rosaries back

[opaque sigil]

straight pin

[coarse leaf]

u have to repair it???

[cerulean moat]

Take that up with team cherry

[coarse leaf]

oh no

[opaque sigil]

it's how you reload at benches

[cerulean moat]

You only keep your rosaries if they are on a string

[opaque sigil]

that is not very likely

[cerulean moat]

Unless it's was redone that's how the demo worked

[opaque sigil]

if you can't get rosaries back they wouldn't bother breaking your spool

[cerulean sable]

i still feel the way "reloading" your tools on the bench is going to be entirely changed in the final game

[cerulean moat]

Yes you would

It gives you full silk

[opaque sigil]

the demo was an incredibly early build and the rosaries did nothing

[coarse leaf]

when was it released?

[opaque sigil]

that's not really worth cutting your capacity for that long no

[opaque sigil]

2019

[cerulean moat]

There is a whole feature where you csn pay to stirng roseries so you don't lose them

[opaque sigil]

that does not function as an alternative for recovery lmao

[coarse leaf]

so, you pay roseries to get your roseries back?

kinda weird

[cerulean moat]

No

You pay to not lose them

[opaque sigil]

it's the banking system, it's equivalent to buying relics

[cerulean moat]

You cant get them back as of the demo

[opaque sigil]

that doesn't mean you can't get them back normally

[coarse leaf]

ohh

[opaque sigil]

the demo which was made when exactly

[cerulean moat]

You cant spend stringed roaseries until you break them

[opaque sigil]

the demo not having recovery means nothing

[cerulean moat]

In which you risk losing it

[opaque sigil]

like actually nothing

a demo not implementing a mechanic doesn't mean it won't exist

idk why this even needs to be said

[coarse leaf]

Doubter, can i be you?

[trim estuary]

No

[cerulean moat]

But your claim has no backing while mine at least does

Speculation isn't proof

[opaque sigil]

your claim has no backing

[cerulean moat]

A literal dmeo

[opaque sigil]

mine has precedent

[coarse leaf]

You are quite literally speculating

[opaque sigil]

having the death runback also doesn't make sense if you can't recover rosaries you'd just go die the next room over to recover your spool length

[cerulean moat]

Tf you mean, a playable demo is more proof then "oh well hk was like this..."

[coarse leaf]

demo: not finished product

[cerulean moat]

Well then

[opaque sigil]

and that's not even touching how asinine and bullshit that mechanic would be if you couldn't recover rosaries

[cerulean moat]

Maybe hornet was removed

[coarse leaf]

omg bro

[cerulean moat]

After all we only saw her in a demo

[stark estuary]

I think rosaries will continue to do nothing in the actual game TC just added them in because they thought it’d be funny

Don’t insult people

Don’t use slurs

[opaque sigil]

ableism fun

[coarse leaf]

are you for real?

[hollow terrace]

<@&283547423706447872>

[coarse leaf]

ong

[cerulean moat]

Getting angry over a gameplay feature is crazy

[coarse leaf]

im not even angry

im just surprised

[cerulean moat]

You're gonna flip when you learn healing takes all silk

[coarse leaf]

what?

oh

Hi ttacco

it is me again

[trim estuary]

Healing doesn't take all silk it just takes a spool

[strange night]

This is gross

Oops got deleted before I could reply

Awesome!

[coarse leaf]

what?

[vivid belfry]

the spool is what contains all your silk

[stark estuary]

You don’t have to say anything

[strange night]

Anyway I'm silksong

[vivid belfry]

you mean to say it takes 9 notches

[tiny pine]

[opaque sigil]

strings aren't an alternative to recovering rosaries and if used as one they would essentially turn the economy into either:
everything just costs 20% more and you never lose any money
you lose all your money every time you encounter a boss

[strange night]

I'm gonna

Silksong

[cerulean sable]

Can we not use the r word, thanks
and yes circumventing it with a different word when its ultimately the same thing being expressed isnt excusable, thanks

[strange night]

I love playing silksong

[cerulean moat]

Mb spool

[opaque sigil]

this is very bad

[strange night]

I have so many rosaries in silksong

[stark estuary]

Silksong should allow you to capture enemies and steal their rosaries

[marsh ibex]

Awesome

[strange night]

I play every day

[opaque sigil]

true

[marsh ibex]

I click the link to follow this ping

discord sends me to another FUCKING server???

Thanks mobile app

[surreal remnant]

skissue

[opaque sigil]

[cerulean moat]

"As in Hollow Knight, defeat in Silksong can occur swiftly and often. Where the Knight left a Shade upon defeat, Hornet leaves a cocoon. This fragile container holds a full stock of silk! Experienced players can make tactical use of the cocoon, breaking it open only when most needed, late in a boss fight or challenging encounter, to give Hornet an extra edge."

All the cocoon has is silk

[coarse leaf]

Is that Iroh from avatar???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[marsh ibex]

keeps happening too awesome this fucking app is dogshit

[cerulean moat]

You lose rosaries but your spool isn't cut like in hk

[stark estuary]

Extra edge? Like Edge magazine? Holy shit

[opaque sigil]

that does not mean you don't recover rosaries it's just not what the sentence is discussing

[stark estuary]

This just might be a silksong reference chat

[opaque sigil]

it's describing how the system differs from hk

if anything the fact that it doesn't explicitly say you can't get money supports that you can

if you couldn't recover cash that could be a relevant point of differentiation so it would be weird not to point it out

[cerulean moat]

So now a lack of info is proof

[vivid belfry]

this is outdated, broken spool was implemented as of the edge magazine spotlight

[cerulean moat]

I get it's 5 years old

[stark estuary]

Of course you’ll be able to regain money upon death what the hell is the alternative

[opaque sigil]

read what I said again

[opaque sigil]

.

[vivid belfry]

backtrack to a town every time you get any amount of money so you can make it "real"

[trim estuary]

Uhhhh..... free silk..?

[opaque sigil]

this is the alternative

[coarse leaf]

free song?

[cerulean moat]

And not losing half your silk bar

Rosaries string would be borderline useless

[opaque sigil]

they wouldn't be useless

they would be extra security

[vivid belfry]

yes just like relics, the system in hollow knight that nobody uses

[dire latch]

When is silksong planned to release again??

[stark estuary]

It’s the same as not cashing in your relics until you need them

[trim estuary]

To Be Announced

[coarse leaf]

No

[opaque sigil]

it's being able to buy relics at a slight loss as a way to stash funds

[stark estuary]

Ultimately losing money upon death is kind of a garbage mechanic and it should die

[cerulean moat]

But then what

Boohoo you died

Have all your stuff back for free

[coarse leaf]

you have to die twice to lose your money, skill issue if you ask me

[cerulean moat]

Death isn't supposed to be fun

[opaque sigil]

that's literally what you're proposing you think is the case

[cerulean moat]

What

[opaque sigil]

if you lose all your rosaries on death and can't recover them nobody will ever not string them and will thus never lose any real amount of money on dying

[cerulean moat]

I'm saying you lose all your money and some shards

But you have to pay for that

Which is still losing

[opaque sigil]

people will pay

[stark estuary]

People play video games for fun they don’t play them to have a shitty experience because the devs prevented them from having any money unless they never died ever

[opaque sigil]

it just makes the economy suck

it's 80% income or 0%

[vivid belfry]

and because this requires backtracking, it encourages an extremely tedious and annoying playstyle

you need to think through the implications of a system before suggesting it

[opaque sigil]

yeah

[strange night]

I'm playing silksong right now

[coarse leaf]

me too

[vivid belfry]

here's another one: rewards given in forms other than rosary strings aren't real

if you open a treasure chest and it's full of rosaries that go straight into your inventory, it doesn't count

[opaque sigil]

unless you schlep to a special bench immediately

[vivid belfry]

unless you immediately backtrack to a town and pay someone to make it count

[cerulean moat]

But as of 2024, we have no new news about the deaths system. Therefore as of 2024 we have no reason to believe tc removed the feature

[vivid belfry]

my reasoning is that it's a shit system and team cherry have proven to be competent devs?

[opaque sigil]

there's also no reason to think that they're doing that

[stark estuary]

I mean in HK it actively discouraged exploration and oftentimes if you died against a boss the Shade would spawn past the door which means you functionally lose access to all your money until you beat the boss which is bullshit

[coarse leaf]

The reasons: the feature sucks.
What are your reasons to believe tc did NOT remove the feature?

[opaque sigil]

it's not unreasonable to assume that an obvious placeholder mechanic is a placeholder

[cerulean moat]

Other than the fact that it's already coded in

[stark estuary]

The Shade mechanic sucks ass

[cerulean moat]

I know it's sucks

But the shade also sucka

[opaque sigil]

it's also already coded in that there are only two areas accessed by the menu screen

[coarse leaf]

oh, that never happened to me ngl

[vivid belfry]

the shade system had very minor problems that are fixed with the assumption that the cocoon works the same as the shade

[coarse leaf]

it doesnt imo, you can use it for cool skips!!

[cerulean moat]

Ong

[vivid belfry]

it doesn't try to kill you and it breaks in one hit, so it's much less likely that you'll die trying to recover it,

[coarse leaf]

Nah, dont "Ong" me

[opaque sigil]

I mean to some extent the fact that it forces you to hard commit to a path you might not actually be able to feasibly take yet is not great

[cerulean moat]

Ong

[vivid belfry]

and it gives you a silk boost to allow you to backtrack easier

[vivid belfry]

this isn't a problem with the shade system, it's a problem with jiji

[opaque sigil]

if you stumble into a dark room and die you have to go back to the dark room to try to get your money instead of going to look for the light

[cerulean moat]

Silksong should remove death

[marsh ibex]

I don’t know why you would assume a death function that was in a 2019 demo would be the same

[stark estuary]

Which is discouraging exploration

[cerulean sable]

@heady iron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-16bsigNy_I

is this whaty ou meant

[marsh ibex]

a very half baked demo from 2019 I needn’t remind you

[coarse leaf]

there has to be some difficulty to get your things back tho

[cerulean moat]

Having the cocoon give you an optional prize for retrieving it over all your life saving is a better mechanic

[stark estuary]

No there doesn’t

[opaque sigil]

except it isn't

[coarse leaf]

what do you mean

[opaque sigil]

you just die the next room over from the bench then grab the silk there

[stark estuary]

Losing your money doesn’t actually make the game harder it just wastes your time

[cerulean moat]

Exactly

[stark estuary]

Geo isn’t a limited resource

[vivid belfry]

even if you believe this, it's not really related to deleting your entire wallet on death

[opaque sigil]

unless you can get the money back there's no reason to go to the cocoon that is found where you died

[vivid belfry]

those systems aren't directly correlated

[coarse leaf]

so, when you die, you lose nothing? Wow, thats nice

[cerulean moat]

I don't think you should lose your money

[cerulean sable]

i think they should illegalize rosary farming by capping rosary and rosary bead amounts

[vivid belfry]

well your argument up to this point is that that's how it worked in the demo so that's how it should work

[cerulean moat]

No how it should, but how I personally believe it will

[coarse leaf]

so, lets ask tc for an easy mode, so you can play it 🙏

[stark estuary]

It’s insane that the souls mechanic of losing currency upon death has become so widespread (often shoehorned in without a second thought) that now losing something upon death has become the expectation

[cerulean moat]

It's like saying I'd rather silksong come out this year but I'm sure it'll be in 2025

[stark estuary]

You lose progress

[vivid belfry]

I think it's much more likely that TC just didn't implement a feature that was unnecessary for the demo than that they suddenly forgot how to design a videogame

[opaque sigil]

even if we pretend it wasn't probably a placeholder mechanic and tc actually thought they were going to do that, why do you think in 5 years of development they wouldn't have realized 'hey that sucks let's change it'

[vivid belfry]

you can't spend rosaries in the demo, so there's no reason for them to be retrievable

the broken spool also wasn't implemented in the treehouse demo so obviously the death system wasn't some perfect finalized product

[marsh ibex]

god this is why I hate difficulty discussions

[cerulean moat]

Fair but there's also no reason for them not to be

[stark estuary]

It’s not even a difficulty discussion

[cerulean moat]

As I'm sure they coded in more than just the demo

[coarse leaf]

if i lose nothing on dead, i wouldnt really mind dying, and that makes the game a lil bit boring

[marsh ibex]

this type of response happens all the time “just make it easier” no nuance just skissue spite and nonsense

[stark estuary]

Permanently losing access to your money upon death is just bad game design

[cerulean moat]

But you dont

[stark estuary]

It doesn’t make the game “easier” or anything

[opaque sigil]

you still get shunted back to a bench that's plenty of setback to make death nontrivial

[vivid belfry]

this is how it works in like every other metroidvania

[coarse leaf]

it was irony tho, i like hard games

[marsh ibex]

that’s not the point

[stark estuary]

Hard and tedious aren’t the same thing

[coarse leaf]

yeah, ik

[marsh ibex]

the game isn’t made harder when you lose all your geo

there are always ways to make more

[stark estuary]

Geo isn’t a limited resource losing it is just a waste of your time and effort

[marsh ibex]

kill enemies go to the colosseum etc etc

it’s just a stopgap

and by the time you run out of things to spend geo on it literally becomes a non issue

which let’s face it, doesn’t take particularly long to do

[stark estuary]

HK didn’t have a very interesting economy the only major Geo sinks didn’t even exist in the base game

[coarse leaf]

So what could you lose by dying to make death bad? Because if I didn't lose anything, I would kill myself every time I wanted to go back to a bench

[cerulean moat]

Shell shards mechanic is kinda of annoying tbh

[cerulean sable]

guys ok unironically
what if you never lose rosaries no death but you cant farm them either, like its a preset reward already

[stark estuary]

You lose progress

[cerulean sable]

like a set amount of rosaries are always achievable in every playthrough

[cerulean moat]

You lose progress regardless

[coarse leaf]

that doesnt make the game harder

[opaque sigil]

that would probably be fine but I doubt it's how it will work

[cerulean sable]

yeah just a food for thought / what if scenario

[cerulean moat]

What if silksong released

[stark estuary]

It makes death nontrivial without making it unnecessarily tedious, losing money doesn’t make the game harder either

[strange night]

I'm playing it right now

[cerulean moat]

Buts it's still a punishment

[strange night]

Trust

[opaque sigil]

I don't see a problem with people dying to get back to a bench

[stark estuary]

Also getting pushed back does make the game harder

[cerulean sable]

the question is, should death have a punishment, if at all?

[opaque sigil]

it depends on the game

[cerulean sable]

what is the implication of removing it

[vivid belfry]

people literally already do this with save and quit

[cerulean moat]

That's like turning on keep inventory is minecraft

[cerulean sable]

does Silksong or HK as a game benefit or lose from it? etc

[coarse leaf]

I know, but in Silksong there will be a LOT of benches everywhere, if you die you'll probably lose like 5 minutes

[limber oak]

you know?

[coarse leaf]

imo, yes

[opaque sigil]

source?

[opaque sigil]

I don't think Hk really benefits from it and I don't think SS will either

[stark estuary]

The Shade mechanic is poorly implemented and overall detrimental imo

[cerulean moat]

Just remove death

[coarse leaf]

tc said there are gonna be like 3 times more benches than in hollow knight

[marsh ibex]

if they whip out the 150+ unique benches I’m going to blow up the tri state area

[opaque sigil]

the map is much bigger

[cerulean moat]

Yeah true

3x doesnt matter if the map is 3x

[coarse leaf]

just make hornet invincible atp

[opaque sigil]

if you have a much bigger map
and many more benches
you don't have extreme bench density

[cerulean moat]

But it's probably not thay big

[cerulean sable]

the way i see it

you going back from the start is already punishment enough, and unlocking a shortcut to a boss is the soft checkpoint
having you lose currency or say max health isnt really necessary, or is it?

[coarse leaf]

they said the map is gonna be twice as big

[limber oak]

I think this is wrong

[coarse leaf]

and there are gonna be 3 times more benches

[opaque sigil]

they didn't give specific numbers on any comparisons

[cerulean moat]

So much easier

[stark estuary]

I mean all it ever really accomplishes is discouraging exploration and making the game less fun to play in the event you do lose all your Geo

[coarse leaf]

then i got baited

[vivid belfry]

it isn't necessary, but I actually like the implementation of the shade mechanic for the reason other people dislike it - forcing you to acclimate to a new area instead of turning away at the first challenge

[stark estuary]

And past like the halfway point it stops mattering completely

[cerulean moat]

This is a good bonding experience. All of us losing our minds over a game mechanic in a fake game

[marsh ibex]

I mean you don’t really acclimate to the new area

you kinda just

[coarse leaf]

[opaque sigil]

I don't think the shades really drive that so much as the need to look around to find new things to progress does

[marsh ibex]

keep wood chippering yourself until you can keep your psyche whole

while you wood chipper yourself

[heady iron]

Meant by wat

[opaque sigil]

if you don't have to recover your shade the new area with new things is still the new area with new things and probably the most interesting place to go

[vivid belfry]

if you're not making an effort to learn enemy patterns that's on you

[stark estuary]

If anything the Shade mechanic wants you to leave a difficult area so you don’t die and lose everything

[opaque sigil]

well it wants you to get your shade, save+quit, then leave

[stark estuary]

Same difference 🥱

[opaque sigil]

the shades disincentivize exploring dangerous areas the moment you collect your shade back

[stark estuary]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

which in a way is just more incentive to turn away at the first challenge

[stark estuary]

Yes

[cerulean sable]

i always like the psychology when it comes to games like these

and how it matters a lot

[marsh ibex]

while I should agree, the threat of being weakened (smaller soul meter) and having your funds taken doesn’t actually end with you thinking “man I should learn as I go along and figure out how to stop doing what I’m doing wrong”

[vivid belfry]

I've never had this experience, nor have I seen other people have this experience

[marsh ibex]

most people are gonna go “oh god oh shit oh fuck why why why please I spent so much fucking time on this stash of money”

[stark estuary]

Jiji is goofy

[opaque sigil]

you haven't seen people go collect their shade then immediately leave?

[vivid belfry]

not outside of a couple boss fights

which isn't really what this discussion is about

[marsh ibex]

Jiji is in one area of the game requires a simple key, isn’t particularly alluded to well and requires delectable eggs that I wish to keep to myself

[vivid belfry]

see this is why I say Jiji is the problem

[opaque sigil]

also the eggs are/seem finite unless you find tuk

[stark estuary]

I mean shades spawning inside boss arenas is kinda bullshit but yes that’s tangential

[marsh ibex]

oozing eggs MMMMMMM

found within those delightful pustules

[limber oak]

king fart

[marsh ibex]

nah but fr jiji is locked in dirtmouth

[limber oak]

mahbe your right

[marsh ibex]

it’s both lame to truck back there and if you’re out of money and eggs (which is a possibility) you’re fucked

[vivid belfry]

turning jiji into a consumable item like rosary strings would completely solve the problems people have with the death system

[limber oak]

Yeah i see that now

[cerulean sable]

its not entirely a reward thing, but sometimes reframing things to a "reward" way incentivizes players instead of frustrating them

take civilization for example, originally if you didnt keep players happiness the game was going to punish you with a dark age. playtesters hated this a lot, so instead they redid and made it so that keeping your city's happiness instead gives you a golden age which increases yield, rewarding you instead

and it ended up being very fun with playtesters aiming to maximize their happiness instead of being another checklist to ignore or else theyll be punish for it, type of shtick

[limber oak]

positive reinforecment vs negative

[cerulean sable]

if you mean the entire "dissuades exploration" its actually kinda a common complaint

its usually combined with the entire reasoning why people place backtracking as a major complaint

"dying and needing to go find your shade" etc

[vivid belfry]

yeah in this forum when people are talking about the demo death behavior, but I've watched a lot of new players and never seen that happen

I've never seen someone get halfway through soul sanctum to collect their shade and then leave

[stark estuary]

Well it largely depends

[opaque sigil]

I mean sometimes it's the only route to go and they were going down that route anyways

[cerulean sable]

but it still psychologically "forces" you to that same route

[heady iron]

Wise words from Vincent Vinesauce about silksong release date https://youtu.be/ZG8MGBj41wM?t=6223

[vivid belfry]

how does this logic not apply to every area in the game

[cerulean sable]

maybe not the entire quit to menu thing

[limber oak]

I suppose if you didn't want to continue yeah you would want to get the shade and leave

[opaque sigil]

because there isn't a super strict order of areas

[limber oak]

But that only is if you Really dont want to continue

[stark estuary]

Also if you die to a stupid mistake or feel you were doing well up to that point that’s not quite the same as setting foot in a new area and immediately getting killed by enemies you haven’t seen before/haven’t learned the patterns of

People don’t generally quit in the middle of an area they’ve already explored

Or started exploring

[opaque sigil]

and the thing is for cases where this is true you also don't need the shades anyways so if it's true for most areas then for most areas the shades aren't contributing

[stark estuary]

And sometimes it’s not like there’s a clear alternative

[cerulean sable]

man imagine youre just eating together with an old friend, enjoying the BBQ, watching the fireworks

and your friend just out of nowhere says "happy 4th of july guys, also btw reminder that your aunt died from being stabbed multiple times and the police still hasnt found a culprit after 13 years since her death"

low blow man

low blow

[vivid belfry]

if that's the case then how does the shade system disencourage exploration

[opaque sigil]

I do think the vast majority of the time it just doesn't matter but the times when it does it's not really helping

[vivid belfry]

if people aren't going to quit in the middle of an area they just started exploring, then it doesn't really matter what punishment there is for death

[opaque sigil]

what it does prevent is saying 'oh gee this area looks tough I'm going to go buy upgrades'

because now you don't have money

and have to go back into the area instead of upgrading

[vivid belfry]

that's only if you die twice

[opaque sigil]

it prevents you from dying and going to get upgrades

[stark estuary]

Or grind

[opaque sigil]

you have to go back into an area you might be underprepared for

[limber oak]

again Isnt jiji the solution

[stark estuary]

Jiji isn’t a very good solution frankly

[vivid belfry]

the circumstances requiring you to get lucky enough to get so far that you can't get to that point again without dying, except this time you're skipping combat as much as possible, are just astronomically unlikely

[opaque sigil]

you're probably capable of it but people aren't machines

[vivid belfry]

yes, this is why I keep saying Jiji is the thing that needs to be fixed

[cerulean sable]

also in hindsight its easy for us to say "well money doesnt matter that much" but not for a new player, it can easily discourage them
and its not like everyone will rely on someone telling them just that either

[opaque sigil]

being able to get that far doesn't mean you'll get there consistently

[opaque sigil]

and yeah this is also a big thing

in #hk-help you see a lot of people really worried about their cash

though tbf the rosary strings help with that

[limber oak]

we think

[cerulean sable]

these tiny psychological things doesnt matter to us that much cuz were kinda an outlier and we already understand how much of an non issue rewards are

but on average, it can definitely make or break someone's experience

bias and all that

[opaque sigil]

we also know how much money you actually need for things and that you'll get way more than you need in a playthrough

but for somebody who doesn't know that losing 2k geo might seem like the difference between needing to grind for hours or not

[limber oak]

suppose it's up to mindset at that point

[cerulean sable]

yeah, if you come from other games, their framepoint is money is incredibly important, hell if you come from souls game its pratically your lifeline

[limber oak]

the game can't tell players the importance of geo or at least it prbably shouldnt

[vivid belfry]

yeah I think you guys might just be risk averse

[cerulean sable]

no offense but maybe its also a case youre looking at this only through your own lens

[opaque sigil]

being somewhat risk averse is the natural state

[cerulean sable]

this applies to strategy games as well

[opaque sigil]

it applies to anything with any penalties for anything

[limber oak]

But you lose it with experience

[stark estuary]

To be fair the lack of any consequences can result in cough unicorn overlord cough (maybe that’s not such a bad thing though)

[opaque sigil]

well hey at least misuse of items there can be bad

[cerulean sable]

like the ones i play, the top tier players are the ones who are willing risk their units just for a soft power spike because they KNOW losing a dude will make up for it in the future but 80% players wont, and infact losing a guy is a huge loss to them, but at least on those games its excusable because its meant to be replayed so being risky is just a forte of the genre

HK is often then than not is a one and done game for the majority

[stark estuary]

You can just quit and you don’t lose any items

[cerulean sable]

theres a good balance ofc

[stark estuary]

I mean sacrifice strats are always very good but in games with permadeath most people don’t like to lose anyone even if they know they’re not going to ever use them

[cerulean sable]

im not saying HK shouldnt have some kind of punishment for death, its just that the Shade system couldve been better in delivering that

[cerulean sable]

well tbf the games i do play are the Xcom style games with mostly generic units

[stark estuary]

You grow attached to those anyways

[cerulean sable]

anyone with a semblance of written personality, im restarting when they die

true

but most often than not ive learned to use fodders just to further my goals 🥴

[vivid belfry]

idk, HK's economy is pretty manageable because you get so much money through relics and you almost always have easy access to like 3 shops

[opaque sigil]

when I play xcom I usually reset for pretty much anyone

[cerulean sable]

TRUE i should do that

[stark estuary]

Same

[opaque sigil]

but tbf the game doesn't really let you get away with sacrificing people with a lot of investment and you probably aren't fielding nobodies

[stark estuary]

Yeah

Games with permadeath definitely run the risk of softlocking the player which can be bad

I mean in some cases it’s worse than a softlock but that’s rare in my experience

[opaque sigil]

well at least for xcom that's just what the game is, you are supposed to be able to flat out lose

[stark estuary]

Yeah with xcom it’s an intended feature

[cerulean sable]

Battle Brothers is a lot more lenient than Xcom when i do fodder units because you get to play around 12-16 units on the same fight, compared to Xcoms 4,

1 death in Xcom feels huge for me but in BB if lose 2 guys (unless theyre high level/high backgrounds), i usually say "if youre gonna die, at least soak up 3-4 hits and waste the enemies turns first so that the good bros i have actually gets some XP farm B)"

[stark estuary]

But that’s not the norm

[opaque sigil]

I should really redownload chimera squad I never beat it

[cerulean sable]

i heard its mid

again shoutout to one of my guys again who was originally meant to be a fodder but he just kept surviving until he became a killing machine

[opaque sigil]

unless it really falls apart later on idk how that would be

[cerulean sable]

i dunno maybe its also a case of people just being harsh at it if you compare its scale to Xcom 2

i heard Xenonauts 2 is good tho

or is shaping up to be one

[opaque sigil]

but that's the point

[cerulean sable]

yeah well people didnt like how small scale it was

funny thing is sometime i prefer smaller scale stuff

like Total War Britannia for example was smaller scope set in the British Isles, and people were saying the units were too samey

meanwhile Shogun 2 is literally even worst on those regards but its highly regarded as a mainline entry 🥴

[stark estuary]

tbf as fun as it is to pull off sacrifice strats (which is optimal a lot of the time) there’s also a lot of satisfaction to be found in getting the win with nobody left behind

That being said lowmans can also be fun if you’re a twisted motherfucker

[opaque sigil]

they're two sides of the same power fantasy

[cerulean sable]

for what tis worth i prefer Britannia's scoping because while it is smaller, in return Britain got fleshed the fuck out in terms of settlements, whereas in the other large scale games, theyd represent the lower area into just "oh this part is just London i guess"

i cant do it for FE

everyone must come home

[stark estuary]

Honestly most FEs don’t really let you lowman

[opaque sigil]

well the good ones don't

[stark estuary]

The other ones are juggernaut simulators

Or Shadow Dragon

[opaque sigil]

shadow dragon

shadow dragon doesn't let you lowman but incentivizes killing off as many units as you can

gotta get the replacement levels up

[stark estuary]

Which is also very funny given Marth’s characterization

It also locks content behind poor play which is kind of a whack concept honestly

[opaque sigil]

I mean tbf if you're playing shadow dragon as intended people are gonna die
a lot

shadow dragon is bullshit

[stark estuary]

In the original FE1 replacements were punishments but in SD a lot of them aren’t worse than your usual units

Actually a lot of them are better

[opaque sigil]

where's that image of astram getting one rounded by a thief

[stark estuary]

Those thieves are on some shit though

[opaque sigil]

engage thieves got nothing

[opaque sigil]

hard 5 was not playtested

[stark estuary]

They got 1-2 range

[stark estuary]

Ok but it actually wasn’t

Like fr

[opaque sigil]

obviously not

needing to break the prologue's boss's weapon

cannot have been green flagged

[stark estuary]

And somehow that still falls short of being the worst designed difficulty in the series

[opaque sigil]

idk it's at least tied

what is legitimatley worse than hard 5

[stark estuary]

Lunatic reverse

[opaque sigil]

ok fine yes that's worse

[stark estuary]

Lunatic+ is also bad at least reverse succeeds at being a gimmick mode

[opaque sigil]

idk I prefer lunatic+

low bar

subterranean

but still

[stark estuary]

ig Awakening and SD are very front loaded

[opaque sigil]

I honestly don't know how different lunatic+ plays than lunatic

your early game strat is the same

robin snowball

and then that's the strat for the rest of the game

[stark estuary]

SD H5’s hardest chapters are the first three by far Awakening Lunatic+ falls off hard after chapter 5 and the snowball is rolling (though chapter 2 and 3 are also pretty terrible)

FE12 lunatic reverse never gets better

[opaque sigil]

I mean you just cannot ever attack into a counter

full stop

[stark estuary]

Which would be interesting in another universe where the game was better

[opaque sigil]

or where you had more tools to avoid doing that

and yeah if the game wasn't bad people would probably in general have more patience to play some goofy ahh hard modes

[coarse leaf]

Milk inside a bag of milk

[fleet temple]

r/silksong never fails to disappoint me

[coarse leaf]

Hype is NOT dead

My braincells are tho

[placid tiger]

silksong fans when:

[opaque sigil]

ah yes because people who don't care about things totally go on reddit to exclaim to the world that they don't care

that's a thing that makes sense

[hollow terrace]

Chat be honest

Gimmick bosses yay or nay

[placid tiger]

yay

[opaque sigil]

you get one or two

[stark estuary]

Depends on the gimmick

Gimmick bosses in general I think can be fun

[placid tiger]

the whole community is going to explode once silksong is released

[opaque sigil]

unless you're a zelda game then almost every boss should be a gimmick boss

[placid tiger]

[silver oak]

depends on how funny it is

[placid tiger]

what are the funniest ones

[fleet temple]

they're trying to convince themselves more than anyone else

[placid tiger]

human beings smh

[hollow terrace]

Really funny in hindsight

But in the trenches, depends on your fortitude

[fleet temple]

*if

[coarse leaf]

Hype aint dead lmao

The best marketing is the silence fr

[cerulean sable]

giant bosses with nigh hyped and threatening intro

then their moveset is either "stomp every 20 seconds" or do an incredibly slow down smash attack

to defeat them you just climb the tower and shoot them with the balista once

and they fucking die

[stark estuary]

Shadow of the colossus gameplay

[inland ravine]

hi

[placid tiger]

welcome to the studio

[inland ravine]

[flat remnant]

haii gwnj

[opaque sigil]

big=slow logic when the giant sprints across the battlefield and stomps you in two steps

[inland ravine]

SCARFY

[flat remnant]

just took my third nap in a row

life good

[opaque sigil]

that just sounds like getting a full night's sleep

[flat remnant]

it was over the span of 5ish hours

maybe 6 but that's pushing it a bit

[spare fractal]

I feel miserable right now

[sacred stratus]

Seems like that happens a lot

[spare fractal]

yeah, it's just my regular mood every time the weekend ends

[sacred stratus]

Goddamit I lost the screenshot of me killing Alatreon

Didn’t even use Safi gear

[spare fractal]

I can't do this anymore, I want to be done with this bullshit already...

[fallen blaze]

It is now july 8st

[olive bobcat]

When the fuck did that happen

It was July 1st like 2 days ago

[fallen blaze]

Felt like it was just yesterday I was celebrating america day

[spare fractal]

time to sleep and wake up miserably like always

why can't it just be OVER

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/lbp-littlebigplanet-2-eves-asylum-eve-silva-paragorica-eve-gif-17926304537338060486

[spare fractal]

GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE

PLEASE anyways zzzzzzzzzzz

[fallen blaze]

Every day I wake up, then I start to break up

[charred pulsar]

I click on this channel and see LBP2, am happy

[inland ravine]

simo

[spare fractal]

gwnj?

[inland ravine]

patto?

*patoo

[fallen blaze]

Lonely is the man without love

[inland ravine]

patoo :)

got any question?

[spare fractal]

not really I'm just glad to see you

:)

[olive bobcat]

https://vxtwitter.com/PersonaFusions/status/1810129935568364005

@manic abyss

Shit no wait I think @jolly island

I lose track of you two

[jolly island]

pinging me in hkcord is diabolical

but that is real

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/kururu-keroro-keroro-gunso-sgt-frog-house-md-gif-8450846204453830238

[fallen blaze]

Its primetime

[violet path]

Have you finishes 3 relod yet

[jolly island]

no

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-shinjiro-aragaki-shinjiro-persona-3-reload-persona-3-gif-1268924724280703438

[jolly island]

i’m at like october 20 something the last time i checked

i havent played in a bit

[violet path]

Lock inn

[jolly island]

it’s hard to

[hollow terrace]

Get it twisted

[jolly island]

i already played fes so i don’t have a large incentive to complete it really

[violet path]

What is it the braids

[violet path]

Whats that

[olive bobcat]

P3 ending spoilers

[jolly island]

like i already know everything that’s happened i’ve written two essays on 3…

[jolly island]

the original persona 3

[violet path]

Whaaat

[jolly island]

yeah

[violet path]

Wish i was in an environment to write persona essays

[jolly island]

i write essays on videogames in my freetime because i’m a loser

[violet path]

I do cool things

Like watching the lego movie

Which im doing now

[fallen blaze]

They dont make good movies anymore

[indigo pine]

1

[snow solstice]

when silksong

[violet path]

My scores

In just a few years

Hours*

[fallen blaze]

I alr know I fucked up on human geo

[wheat sail]

aahahhahahahah

im in the club high on purp with some shades on

[violet path]

Yaa

[violet path]

Oh cmon

Human geo was so fun

And light

[wheat sail]

just watch the classics

like The Thing

👅

[violet path]

Among us live action

[wheat sail]

Where there might be an among us... among us

[quartz cave]

among us mention

[fallen blaze]

One of the questions on the final test thing was like what is carrying capacity

[wheat sail]

👁️

[fallen blaze]

And I forog

[violet path]

I took ap world and appc this year

[wheat sail]

is it multiple choice

[fallen blaze]

No

[wheat sail]

https://tenor.com/view/sine-chorath-death-stranding-funny-nota-gif-19579921

[fallen blaze]

Its like writing

[wheat sail]

bruh

chat gpt that shi

[fallen blaze]

It's on paper bruh

No laptops allwoed

[lime tundra]

Fight back against the machines

[wheat sail]

look at the answer on yo phone

🤦‍♂️

[fallen blaze]

My mind actually pooped itself

[violet path]

Frq

[fallen blaze]

We turned in our telefono

[fallen blaze]

Dude we had like 3 frqs and I finished 0 of them

[violet path]

Oh youre cooked brother

[fallen blaze]

I know

I legit didnt know answers

I did a good amount on the 3rd one I think but the other 2 I barely touched

[wheat sail]

Tfw you remember the answer after the quiz

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[fallen blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-reynolds-danny-devito-oh-my-god-i-get-it-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-1719969854406009304

[wheat sail]

When the two smartest kids in the class disagree on the answer

[fallen blaze]

The dude sitting behind me said I was fucked

[wheat sail]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

Bruh

Kill him

[fallen blaze]

Hes chill like that tho

Damn I took a. Whole ass class and I might not Ian get the credit

[wheat sail]

Ian??

Maybe if they nice they'll round it up

[fallen blaze]

Hopefully the multiple choice evens out with the frqs

Cuz I was cooking

[violet path]

Ughh

The anticipation is killing me

[fallen blaze]

I lowkey froget abt scores

[violet path]

This was mine last year

I wasnt locked in

[fallen blaze]

yeah I'm cooked

[wheat sail]

Is 4 good

[fallen blaze]

Is that not a good score 😭

[violet path]

But its human geoo

Heres another

I gotta get my first 5 this year

[fallen blaze]

you're snart

[violet path]

Or ima crashout

[fallen blaze]

Smart

https://tenor.com/view/pheezy-trey-songz-going-crazy-crash-out-gif-3800836952683496968

[wheat sail]

Just study

[fallen blaze]

I dont think I've studied a day in my life

And it showed

[wheat sail]

Now will you learn

[fallen blaze]

I'll just become book smart

[fallen blaze]

True

[carmine island]

Holy shit

It’s Kirb

He made it big

[fallen blaze]

Mistah shart

[wheat sail]

Compliments to the chef

🍷

[flat remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/auguste-gusteau-dylan-rondan-dean-christo-gif-25737281

[fallen blaze]

Fooderrr

[wheat sail]

Did you draw this

[fallen blaze]

Ratatoing

[wheat sail]

Not you

[flat remnant]

no gustaue is above my paygrade

however you spell that

[wheat sail]

Gustav Fibonacci

I'm gonna food all over the place

[fallen blaze]

Nope

[weary tapir]

Oh it’s potentially peak https://fxtwitter.com/ultimashadowx/status/1810035621185871967?s=46&t=U8B0-0qHt_21QWlNI4sP_w

[fallen blaze]

My horse friend

[wheat sail]

wow its a regular anime but its a deer girl

snore im going back to naruto

[torpid orchid]

hihi

[fallen blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-goku-kamehameha-dragon-ball-anime-gif-19411049

[weary tapir]

shippuden or og

[wheat sail]

og, shippuden is decent too

maybe the ending is a bit wack

[weary tapir]

I think shippuden has the highest highs and the lowest lows

[wheat sail]

they got them chakra gundams

[weary tapir]

the pain arc is like maybe the best shonen arc imo

[wheat sail]

the pain fight animation 🥶

[weary tapir]

I really like that part of the story

ALMIGHTY PUSH

like the first time u see bro full on full on lose his shit

its so fire

I think my favorite sasuke arc is when he just ||smokes orochimaru and the show becomes a western for a bit||

thats honestly the only time I ever found him actually cool

dudes just walking along doing his own thing with no explanation for like 3 episodes

[wheat sail]

sakura loving sasuke for no reason

[weary tapir]

no you don't get it it was just cool to love him

[wheat sail]

he was the cool emo kid

now sits alone at home

[weary tapir]

I'd say og naruto was good if the last 100 episodes weren't filler

its still good I meant better

like it'd probably be better than shippuden if it doesn't just end and then keep going for like

ever

[wheat sail]

imagine watching it on tv

years for anything to happen in the story

[weary tapir]

I think shippuden is also better simply bc you get to see the rest of the world

and not just hidden leaf

[wheat sail]

i liked the fights in og put more emphasis on cleverness than OP abilities

[weary tapir]

I agree on that

mostly

there is one fight I beg to differ

and thats naruto storing clones in frog world

that fight is so cool

and clever

[wheat sail]

thats pretty cool

when naruto comes in after sakura screams for him 🔥

when blew everyone up

[weary tapir]

On a big aaa aa frog

With 2 other big aaa aaa frogs

In his coolest outfit

No competition

I personally think Naruto and hinata makes way less sense than Naruto and Sakura but that’s my personal opinion I genuinely do not understand why Sakura likes sasuke

That shit breaks my brain

Even to this day

That dude is literally irredeemable for like

80 percent of the show

😭

WITH NO REAL GOOD REASON AT THAT

[wheat sail]

adult naruto just isnt as cool..

[weary tapir]

Boruto doesn’t exist

You can’t convince me it does

Because it doesn’t

[wheat sail]

when sakura lies about loving naruto in that snow area i was like YES FINALLY

forgot she was lyin

☠️

[weary tapir]

I thought they were fr and I was genuinely happy abt it

No lie

And then the show is like “NUH UH SASUKE”

[wheat sail]

when he tries to kill you 😍

[weary tapir]

think abt how much better of a person Naruto is and how much more he was there it’s CRAZY she still loves him after that when this dude single handedly almost died for you on like 9 seperate occasions

Straight up

This is RIGHT AFTER bro saved ur entire village of people and family too btw

And ur plan is to lie to him

truthfully built different she is

[wheat sail]

didnt want sakura conflicting with hinata

[weary tapir]

HINATA ISNT EVEN THERE

FOR LIKE

90%

OF THE WHOLE FUCKING SHOW

[wheat sail]

but naruto was nice to her as kids

[weary tapir]

YEAH DUDE

[wheat sail]

🤷‍♂️

[weary tapir]

SHE DOES ONE RELEVANT THING IN THE PAIN ARC AND IN THE FINAL WAR ARC

THATS

I T

[weary tapir]

I AM USING RELEVANT LOOSELY HERE

SHE JUST GETS HER ASS KICKED

show should’ve pulled a REAL power move and had rock lee get with sakura

Wouldn’t see me complaining

Let the true goat get his win

And then sasukes reaction is to leave her with a kid alone for like 6 years

That’s not even a joke

[fallen blaze]

Bronny is like boruto

[wheat sail]

wonder if she regrets it

boruto got the dinosaurs at least

[weary tapir]

It’s on her is all I’m sayin

SASUKE DOES FIGHT A DINOSAUR

THAT IS A THING THAT HAPPENS

AND ITS FIRE

[wheat sail]

ikik

[wheat sail]

bronny aboutta sit on the bench for 6 years

[weary tapir]

that’s the one thing I’ll give boruto

[manic abyss]

so basically Vegeta?

[wheat sail]

boruto got goofy villains fr

aliens

[weary tapir]

Vegeta was more of a clear cut asshole than sasuke and that made him more charming

Sasuke was just a dick

[manic abyss]

tbf I haven't watched Naruto so I don't know about half the stuff you're talking about

[weary tapir]

My hot take is not liking sasuke that much and that gets me in some big trouble with naruto fans

[wheat sail]

deidara shoulda won

he nuked everything and sasuke lives

[wheat sail]

its a classic

[manic abyss]

I'll watch it after I finish jjk
and I'll finish jjk after I finish Mob Psycho
and idk when I'll finish Mob Psycho

[wheat sail]

naruto+naruto shippuden is a lot of episodes

but its good

[manic abyss]

Kirb

[wheat sail]

ok sorry

[manic abyss]

I've finished One Piece

what

[wheat sail]

well i guess if youve watched one piss you can do anything

i dcont have many anime under my belt so 🤷‍♂️

[manic abyss]

Not really
I still can't watch any horror thing

or do shit

watching OP means I'm good at procrastinating and spending time on shows
so it's like, not a good thing

[wheat sail]

i also get quickly engrossed in games and all the time is gone

but you do you 🫵

[grand ferry]

more like ur games are FUCKING long

because dota 2

[manic abyss]

I won't do me, I'll do you

[wheat sail]

🤨

[manic abyss]

what do you think about that HUH

Don't take that out of context

[wheat sail]

https://tenor.com/view/fy-sad-fy-fireworks-gif-19775421

[manic abyss]

Simon I lost the Black Nuzlocke

[wheat sail]

after losing 90 minute game

[grand ferry]

why

[manic abyss]

Wdym why

I just did

Krookodile died to Caitlin and then I got swept by N

[grand ferry]

whats ur e4 team like

[manic abyss]

Serperior
Eviolite Boldore
Haxorus
Shiny Unfezant
Krookodile
Chandelure

[grand ferry]

boldore?

[manic abyss]

yeah

Roggenrola's evo

[grand ferry]

theres definitely like 10 million other better alkternatives

[manic abyss]

I didn't have one

all the Pokemon in my box sucked (except for the legendaries)

[grand ferry]

like what

[manic abyss]

(but there were also 10 million other better alternatives than Mawile when you lost so you can't say anything either)

[grand ferry]

sof made me take mawile so he could use excadril tyranitar

[manic abyss]

wtf

well in any case I lost
that does not mean I'm locked out of my save file tho

I'm taking my three legendaries and some other Pokemon, and I'm going to go kill N

[grand ferry]

wait why do u have legendaries

[manic abyss]

Cobalion
Virizion
Reshiram

[wheat sail]

KILL HIM

[manic abyss]

I'm gonna stab him with a knife

no Pokemon, I'm just gonna throw hands

[wanton eagle]

That's rude

[wanton eagle]

gimme reshiram tho

[cerulean sable]

do you think

if it wasnt for brand recognition

Silksong wouldve gone away with the Hollow Knight as a title

[carmine island]

Was this a nuzlock?

[grand ferry]

yes

[carmine island]

Am I dead?

[grand ferry]

no i havent use you in a while

[coral prawn]

Thats not good😟

[carmine island]

The zubat I think

No

Hell hound

[grand ferry]

houndoom but its very frail so i save for mega stone

[carmine island]

I might make the team

What Gen is it?

[grand ferry]

hack of gen 3

[grand ferry]

i almost switched you in

[carmine island]

Hoenn?

[grand ferry]

hoenn

[coral prawn]

Thank god you didn't

[manic abyss]

OH COME ON MAN

[carmine island]

One of my favourite Pokémon in my favourite region :3

[manic abyss]

WHY DJD I HAVE TO DIE

[carmine island]

All coming up muffin

[manic abyss]

Oh thank God

[carmine island]

Oh he lived?

[grand ferry]

nerfed explosion 👍

[carmine island]

How tf did he live a through self destruct

[carmine island]

Oh ok

[manic abyss]

Not impossible, I've done it a bunch of times

anyways time to kill a green haired shit stain

[carmine island]

Only one I can think of is sturdy but it’s a breloom

You could probably live through it with a specific item

[wooden echo]

silksong withdraw should be labaled as a controlled substance

[flat remnant]

your mom should be labeled as a controlled substance tbh

[kindred pewter]

true so I can control your mom into cooking me a sandwhich

[carmine island]

Garmond wtf are you doing out of the kitchen get back in there with your little ball and chain and make me a sandwich

SMH man

[kindred pewter]

no

im going to control this man's mom and use her to make YOU a sandwich

free labour

[carmine island]

Holy true

Then we can eat sandwiches

[cerulean sable]

should they make a game where you need to roll to reload

[kindred pewter]

so like

you roll to fill your ammo

[kindred pewter]

FREE sandwiches

like sla- I mean like volunteer work for free

[kindred pewter]

instead, they should make it so that everytime she rolls she has to roll a D20 and if it's 10 or below she dies

[cerulean sable]

hmm yes

actually has a game done that

where youre deincentivized spamming roll because your damage goes down

but the moment you do a dodge move or wtv your damage goes back down to the lowest

sounds like a cool gimmick for a test game

[grand ferry]

what

[sacred stratus]

I wonder if gun souls can be made. I know remnant exists but it also has melee and abilities and shit

[grand ferry]

what a gun soul

[nimble radish]

remnant ⛴️#️⃣🐻

[cerulean sable]

remnant is kinda

i dunno

i didnt really like the proc gen aspec of it

[young saffron]

Yoo

[young saffron]

Dang, the game really clicked for me

I just felt difficulty should've been more

Ik you can change the difficulty but that difficulty change was only meant for new+ saves

[cerulean sable]

i like the gameplay

[young saffron]

Which is kinda dumb lol

[cerulean sable]

i did not like the world design

[young saffron]

The dialogue was generic as hell

I literally didn't follow the story at all

[cerulean sable]

for me proc gen kills half a game for me

yeah i didnt care for the story either

[young saffron]

What does proc gen mean? Like the map is randomly generated

[cerulean sable]

it was trying to be mysterious for the sake of it

yeah

[young saffron]

Have u tried remennat 2? I still have to play it

[cerulean sable]

the map is premade then just cookie cutter connected everything

not yet

we stopped playing 1 when we realized the map was trying to be a roguelike

kills the exploration

[young saffron]

Ah yes, I remember finding this a bit how to say, cheap? Too

[cerulean sable]

yeah which is a shame cuz going around shooting stuff is fun

[young saffron]

Gotta compliment the art and sounds though

Gun gameplay and smashing skulls was really fun

[sage void]

gm ssdisc

[coral prawn]

gm agent

[wheat imp]

anyone know where i can somewhat safely download the rain world mobile port?

the official rain world discord server apparently couldn't answer that question so im asking the second best place

[coral prawn]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/312520/Rain_World/ /j

Steam

Rain World

You are a slugcat. The world around you is full of danger, and you must face it – alone. Separated from your family in a devastating flood, you will need to find food and shelter between terrifying torrential downpours which threaten to drown all life. Climb through the ruins of an ancient civilization, evade the jaws of vicious predators, and d...

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

25491

Metacritic

66

▶ Play video

[subtle flint]

Im at the airport

[coral prawn]

why?

[wheat imp]

im looking for the unnoficial android mobile port

[subtle flint]

Where should i go

[coral prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/space-tim-curry-gif-7935778

[subtle flint]

Picking up a friend

[grand ferry]

to the departure hall

[young saffron]

Go to the lost and found and ask them if you can get a souvenir

[subtle flint]

If im picking up someone i should be at arrivals, no?

Real

I should just take a random flight

[young saffron]

go to the airport with twitch text to speech on, receive a donation of 5 dollars which announces some funny words and face a jail sentence

[subtle flint]

Bruh

[young saffron]

what? tf did u say 😭

[subtle flint]

We should play the bomb game

[young saffron]

💀

[subtle flint]

Where you scream bomb louder and louder

Until 1 gives up

[grand ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTmimW2Iw20&

[cerulean sable]

we have logs btw

[heady iron]

Are you gonna use em to build a cabin

[sage void]

🪵

[high hedge]

Do you have ratios

[warped nacelle]

99% of the ratios of this server are from ttacco

[cerulean sable]

i have rations

Dinner Type K

[runic atlas]

Fun fact

These two have the same Italian voice actor

And the one on the right is the bigger role

[coral prawn]

Who tf is the guy on the left

[sage glade]

gyatman

[runic atlas]

Rononoa Zoro from Naruto

[coral prawn]

😱

[runic atlas]

He's called Gyatts I mean Guts

[sage glade]

nuts

[heady iron]

berk

[subtle flint]

I found small finnish woman in airport

[runic atlas]

The internet turning one of the most depressing and dark series of fiction into a shitpost:

[deep laurel]

what's your favorite manga or anime people didn't like

mine is Cage of Eden

[sage glade]

not falling for this

[buoyant heart]

mmm nais

[rich nexus]

puck

[rich halo]

Check Steam

[rose ether]

[frozen pike]

ooo new cheap game me buy

[mystic pollen]

Notice how Leth being quiet lately

[inland ravine]

aw come here

https://tenor.com/view/vector-vector-robot-robot-pet-robot-pet-gif-26917107