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hollow terrace
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she didn’t leave hallownest

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She got kidnapped

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:)

cunning geode
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did
did you kidnap her

slate wagon
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prequel means that nothing major can happen to hornet like her dying or becoming a god
therefore prequel is the lamer option

hollow terrace
cunning geode
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slacker

fleet temple
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Seal breaking bugs

opaque sigil
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?tag info jokerpsa

white sailBOT
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https://youtube.com/clip/UgzlVc4LM4J6_DfuscZ4AaABCQ

No ending stops Hornet from being captured, and the ability to break seals with bugs from Pharloom makes Hornet being locked in the Black Egg not an issue. Dreamers also don’t die when sealed, we simply didn’t have the means to remove them without killing them.

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30 seconds · Clipped by Kingdom Killer · Original video "Hollow Knight: Silksong Gameplay - Nintendo Treehouse: Live | E3 2019" by Nintendo of America

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opaque sigil
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it's not though

hollow terrace
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Thus we repeat the circle of conversation

opaque sigil
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a seal

opaque sigil
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one that can plausibly be broken

fleet temple
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What would ss being a prequel accomplish?

opaque sigil
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it doesn't matter what the face looks like

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no

fleet temple
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doesn't matter, bugs can still break it

opaque sigil
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tk couldn't break the seal directly and needed to kill the dreamers

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something that can break the seal directly could potentially get around it

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and the literal first scene of ss involves a big flashy seal explosion

cunning geode
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now look... having a seal breaking bug break open the black egg only for hornet to get released from her NEXT cage by ANOTHER seal breaking bug is pretty contrived...

slate wagon
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they want that sweet silk she got

opaque sigil
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tc could not have made it clearer that sealed siblings could lead to silksong if they put it in bold lettering

fleet temple
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besides

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There's till other things that prequel believers have to fight against

fallen blaze
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Sweet sweet silk

opaque sigil
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never seen anybody who thinks it's a prequel even attempt to explain the point of the power wipe

fleet temple
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honestly I feel like if it was a prequel they would've just said so

cunning geode
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also like its totally plausible that sealed siblings just ends there and silksong progresses from the other endings if TC deem it so. its really up to them
and yes i know it can follow from sealed siblings

slate wagon
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just make it follow dream no more, it’s the best ending and they don’t even have to say that’s the only canon one

cunning geode
opaque sigil
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or just don't say which

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that's the only approach that really makes any sense

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it's not relevant anyways

fallen blaze
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They should get rid of every ending

wheat sail
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remember, theres no lore

marsh ibex
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oh no

slate wagon
# opaque sigil it's not relevant anyways

i mean kinda?
her fate in some of the endings, godhome and sealed siblings (yes yes sbbs) is ambiguous so like how she ended up from there to pharloom kinda matters

marsh ibex
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time
To run

hollow terrace
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I mean wombat is a bit right

fleet temple
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forgot to unreply

cunning geode
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i dont mind

hollow terrace
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You got seal breaking flies and you still use seals too

fleet temple
cunning geode
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oh interesting

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NOW you die

marsh ibex
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that time period doesn’t exist

fallen blaze
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Before Cot cutsc

fleet temple
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what if TC want to have an ending that doesn't involve hornet returning to hallownest?

cunning geode
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you know what

slate wagon
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hornet returning to hallownest is dumb, what does she want to be princess over some rubble?

barren sequoia
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I think putting the game as a prequel for hk would just muddy hornets character honestly

cunning geode
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i wanna play the game im kinda tired discussin it within the realm of speculation

fleet temple
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so the canonicity of endings only matter in hk but not silksong?

barren sequoia
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I do think when it was still a dlc hornet's story was probably a prequel though

fleet temple
marsh ibex
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embrace the void more like

opaque sigil
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etv isn't getting touched in ss

slate wagon
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etv simply doesn’t exist

cunning geode
silk zodiac
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enter the vungeon

marsh ibex
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embrace the fact that nothing truly matters

fleet temple
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so why not silksong?
also they could change their mind

hollow terrace
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ETV is gonna get covered

barren sequoia
wheat sail
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you matter!

hollow terrace
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cope and seeth doubters

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THK CHARACTER ARC WOOO

barren sequoia
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Certain endings of hk is pretty hopeful for dirtmouth and hallownest honestly

fallen blaze
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Only in hallownest

marsh ibex
fleet temple
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but yeah thankfully I haven't talked about ss in a while so I'm fine with discussion but I really do just wanna play the game now

lament lotus
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Only in pharloom

cunning geode
wheat sail
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carmelita represents the upper class

opaque sigil
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if it was a prequel then why did they do the power wipe

slate wagon
marsh ibex
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To spite you specifically

cunning geode
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yeah to be real its actually a lot easier to make a sequel considering future events havent happened yet and theres a lot more continuity freedom... yknow, linear time stuff and shit

fleet temple
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I don't like the idea of it being a prequel
Sequel has more potential
that's just my opinion

opaque sigil
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why make a point of explicitly removing hornet's powers (ie the ones she has in hk) prior to silksong

fallen blaze
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She forrogo

fleet temple
opaque sigil
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if it's a prequel then why

cunning geode
barren sequoia
marsh ibex
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and spaghetti is hornet’s favorite meal

fallen blaze
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C

slate wagon
opaque sigil
lament lotus
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what are we talking about

slate wagon
marsh ibex
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muted

barren sequoia
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Plus honestly hallownest still needs a protecter even after all that happened in hk

slate wagon
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nuh uh

fleet temple
opaque sigil
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they don't that's not a thing

lament lotus
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#ss-lore rain upon thee

fallen blaze
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When the yapping is yapping

opaque sigil
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and hornet explicitly remembers having the sting shards in the fd dialogue

barren sequoia
cunning geode
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how is silksong gonna be about hornet uncovering her past or whatever if she forgets... her past

opaque sigil
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Hornet: If you are as talented as you suggest, would you lend me your aid, if only briefly? I’ve lacked for my usual tools, and I suspect you could craft fine replacements.

Forge-Daughter: Blades and traps, no doubt? I know your type!

Hornet: Of sorts, but maybe strange to this land? Some would likely prove fine challenge for your craft.

hollow terrace
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I think the core of this conversation is that

cunning geode
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im tired

hollow terrace
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The Gloom eye queen should’ve been elaborated

barren sequoia
fallen blaze
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Why doesnt jornet just talk normally

cunning geode
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thats destiny 2 right window

slate wagon
wheat sail
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hornet with a british voice ❤️

hollow terrace
barren sequoia
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She could've left for one reason and simply got drained from her journey allowing the kidnapping or they could've just taken her from hallownest

opaque sigil
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it would be inconsistent with her outlook to just wander into the wastes for no reason, she probably got abducted from hallownest

cunning geode
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oh so its warframe

fallen blaze
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Hornet would be better with a deep south accent

barren sequoia
marsh ibex
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damn

fallen blaze
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What isnvocalized

marsh ibex
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I’m gonna go to bed now

cunning geode
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good knight

marsh ibex
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sad hours

fallen blaze
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But mods are cheating

nimble radish
barren sequoia
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I do just hope they dont go both games exist fully without the other

fallen blaze
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Yeah

hollow terrace
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new charms are busted

fallen blaze
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😼

barren sequoia
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I know silksong is gonna be able to stand on its own but I think it would be vastly better if it was more than just that

opaque sigil
wheat sail
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mods can fundamentally change the gameplay away from the original

slate wagon
fallen blaze
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POV arguing in bad faith

opaque sigil
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HK's story is over there's really no reason to bring it into things

barren sequoia
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I really hope hornets lineage with is substantial in some way or another and not just the weaver part

neon adder
fallen blaze
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Cheater cheater pumpkin eater

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You like pumpkins huh

barren sequoia
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Being part wyrm is probably important

slate wagon
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tbf mr mushroom is his own story

hollow terrace
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I think so too

fleet temple
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here's my take on silksong being a prequel
What is the purpose of prequels?
the answer: mainly to provide better insight into past events in a story
Now, hollow knight does have a lot of important past events... in hallownest
silksong is not set in hallownest, therefore, it being a prequel would not accomplish anything that a flashback in a sequel wouldn't
and it seems like the only reason for silksong to be a prequel, is to just get around sealed siblings
which, if I were TC, I would gladly take new story opportunities and character development over stretching the canon a bit

opaque sigil
fallen blaze
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Hollow knight: silksong

fallen blaze
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Tryna get me to cheat 🐸

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Almost got me

wheat sail
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😓

barren sequoia
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Wonder if that weird ass chandelier is going to be explained in silksong

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Probably not

fallen blaze
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No this is Patrick

wheat sail
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which one

hollow terrace
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It will!!!

barren sequoia
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Spider chandelier

opaque sigil
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silksong isn't the hk random stuff roundup

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and it wouldn't be a good thing if it was

slate wagon
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oh the trilobite
that’s just herrahs husband
he’s a little strange looking but calling him a chandelier is uncalled for/j

barren sequoia
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If its for some reason relevant to the weavers it might be explained but it is what it is

cunning geode
nimble radish
wheat sail
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but hollow knight is in the title

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so there must be hollow knight stuff

fallen blaze
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Hornet

slate wagon
fallen blaze
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And also vengefly king will make an appearance

spare fractal
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aw

cunning geode
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final fantasy is in the title... this must be the last one

spare fractal
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My booster role is gone

wheat sail
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this will be the biggest fake marketing ever since 'The NeverEnding Story'

spare fractal
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oh well, free nitro was cool

fallen blaze
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The greatest game ever made

fleet temple
cunning geode
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just go with the doom eternal route and crap all over the somewhat decent story you tried presenting seriously

wheat sail
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kill demon

cunning geode
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you right

fallen blaze
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game players when the game

wheat sail
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gamers when the pixels change on the screen in a way they dont like

fallen blaze
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Gamers when the gameplay is perfect but the is the but

hollow terrace
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Team cherry will elaborate on who the trilobite was

barren sequoia
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If stuff was going to be explained a bit more most of it probably did die between the dlc and game change

opaque sigil
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there isn't really anything that needs to be explained

cunning geode
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what if ancient civilization..... they were all trilobites

hollow terrace
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true…

barren sequoia
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I mean maybe not explain but elaborate on

cunning geode
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a beautiful tie-in with how trilobites were on earth for a bajillion years

opaque sigil
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I blame marvel for people no longer having the concept of something being created to be a completed work

barren sequoia
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Could always get a bit more from the ancient civilization even if their story is pretty simple

hollow terrace
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recontextualization is a beautiful

cunning geode
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you guys wanna see something awesome

wheat sail
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yes!

cunning geode
wheat sail
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what is this? music for ants?

cunning geode
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its so cute

slate wagon
barren sequoia
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I just doubt from the fact that if silksong was gonna be a dlc that everything would be brand new

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It would very much elaborate on stuff in the base game

wheat sail
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its cozy

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nintendo indie world trailer music

hollow terrace
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We must look to our fellow metroidvanias to see how they deal with new information on a old game

barren sequoia
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Thats like a major reason dlc is even made

hollow terrace
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Like elden ring

cunning geode
fallen blaze
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Silksong

slate wagon
cunning geode
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externally for a few years yeah

hollow terrace
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But regardless weaver stuff will be elaborated and that trilobite statue does fall into that category!!!

cunning geode
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i think thats sue worthy you might be onto something

hollow terrace
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Probably some pale king references

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MAYBE

barren sequoia
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Pale king stuff is all I want

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Dont just want the weavers story honestly

fallen blaze
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Pale king the game

cunning geode
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i wanna see some glimpses of the surface world please... im pretty sure the only time we've seen it was the land of storms dream

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and even then who knows

glacial wren
barren sequoia
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Pale king being eleborated more on from a character that actually feels emotions and is more than just a husk would be cool

wheat sail
fallen blaze
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The surface is minecraft

wheat sail
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Ant bully

wheat sail
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wtf

cunning geode
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i fucking love this show

slate wagon
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how would they elaborate on pk though? like from what we know he had no part in hornets upbringing besides being her father, but i guess that’s room for a 2hr long flashback of them doing wholesome things like catch

cunning geode
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another path of pain cutscene

hollow terrace
slate wagon
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please no

barren sequoia
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A being of immense power from a line of respected beings

hollow terrace
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On top of the whole killing and letting semi living creatures to die in a pit

slate wagon
barren sequoia
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I just dont think the weaver plot points are going to gloss over her full lineage honestly

slate wagon
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PK is part of her lineage, but it does seem like they’re leading a lot more heavily towards the spider side

fallen blaze
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Man spider

barren sequoia
slate wagon
cerulean sable
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i was gonna make a joke about PK following the same "at his prime" fight like in DS3 with more bombastic choirs
but now i actually wanna discuss something about health bars and pacing

so i think majority of people here agrees that theyd rather not add health bars yes? but what about pacing
should bosses across have the same consistent aspect of them (although at the cost of predictability) that gives an obvious "this is the 2nd phase, and that means the boss is in half health!"

cunning geode
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now its gonna be about hornet and lace and their adopted child sherma

cerulean sable
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namely, stuff ranging from obvious new attacks, music changes, etc denoting you are progressing into the fight

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ala dung defender

barren sequoia
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Adds more tension and readability to a fight

cunning geode
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its often more entertaining to change up a fight as it progresses yeah

cunning geode
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makes it feel like its taking less time plus of course readability and its just cool
more explosions

hollow terrace
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Could if be at 65% or 45% for the lols

cerulean sable
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granted this also comes with the caveat of like what i said with how predictable it is

you essentially end up with the precedent bosses always (or usually) has 2 phases which can make it predictable

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whether this is a bad thing or a non issue, i wanna hear your thoughts about this

cunning geode
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theres no guarantee you know whats coming though

barren sequoia
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I like multistage fights

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Not just the boss should change but the surroundings as well

slate wagon
fleet temple
cerulean sable
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oh sorry theres 2 caveats

  1. makes the fights predictable
  2. makes some fights less special because everyone has 2 phases
wheat sail
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phase 2: he angry\

cunning geode
barren sequoia
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Lot of souls bosses work being multistaged because how hard they go for the stage transitions[sometimes]

fleet temple
hollow terrace
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in this hypothetical FOLLOW ALONG

barren sequoia
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Could always go sister friede route

potent plover
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I enjoy multistage bosses because they can force you to master the earlier phase/s which I like

cunning geode
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also depending on the game multistage boss fights give you checkpoints that make sense

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not really applicable to hk

slate wagon
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imagine mid fight checkpoints in silksong

barren sequoia
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Mutlistaged would make sense with how silksong is presumably set up

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Everything seems more fluid

fallen blaze
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Every damage you deal is a checkpoint

cunning geode
fallen blaze
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You have to pay for checkpoints

slate wagon
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the whole game is silk soul modeshermasmirk

cunning geode
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its pale king's hostile architecture at work

potent plover
slate wagon
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hey it’s not hostile if you got money
we call that business

barren sequoia
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Was playing hades and a construction feature could be cool for silksong as well

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With forging and craftsmithing being important in ss would make for a cool addition

grand ferry
barren sequoia
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Hornet having to drop some dough to add a bench or hotsprings in certain areas

slate wagon
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construction as in base building?

fallen blaze
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Hornet learns to sleep on the floor

barren sequoia
grand ferry
barren sequoia
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Not necessarily per say but quality of life

fallen blaze
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Lace hates the homeless

cunning geode
potent plover
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Money in the late game of HK felt too generous

fallen blaze
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The real monster is

slate wagon
fallen blaze
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Well I'd imagine the further you are in a game the more you get

potent plover
fallen blaze
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Die

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And then die again so you lose all your money

opaque sigil
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Money in late game HK got awkward because you run out of things to buy but ss can basically justify infinite payments for shell shards

potent plover
slate wagon
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am i reading this wrong?
are you saying like use rosaries to buy essentially infinite shell shards or the shards themselves are the fix

opaque sigil
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you will always have a potential use for rosaries if there's a shard vendor

potent plover
opaque sigil
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I said if

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if there is a shard vendor

potent plover
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I see

wheat sail
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else?

opaque sigil
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else you'll eventually run out of things to buy and rosaries will become as meaningless as geo

wheat sail
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a sad result

barren sequoia
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A buff system could work possibly

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Gain a mask or gain another tool charge until your death for some rosaries

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If a boss rush mode is added could be pretty advantageous

potent plover
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Also looks like losing Money will look different in ss

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You can turn rosaries into permanent rosary strings that you don’t lose

wheat sail
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My rosary bands

potent plover
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But when you die you cant recover your held rosaries like you could in HK, seems like a trade off

slate wagon
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a nice one, gets rid of the corpse run

barren sequoia
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Wonder if the rosarie will go farther than geo

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The hallownest economy was in shambles

fallen blaze
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Invest in pharcoin

potent plover
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Invest in silk before hornet kills the suppliers

barren sequoia
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The geo presumably was based on nothing

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Wait nevermind that only works on printed money

opaque sigil
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there's no reason to remove that and it would make boss fights complete bullshit

opaque sigil
dry crater
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Whats the current topic friends

potent plover
opaque sigil
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those don't really solve the problem

barren sequoia
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I just dont get why you would need to pay someone to put a string on your rosaries

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Like hornet makes her own string

wheat sail
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hornet is stupid

cunning geode
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its a legal thing

potent plover
wheat sail
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create the problem, sell the solution

fallen blaze
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Wow

opaque sigil
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either:
every boss fight is a currency wipe and you can't really do much
or:
every single time you get an amount of money that isn't negligible you have to go through the chore of stringing

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both are bad

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there's no reason not to let you recover rosaries from the cocoon

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stringing up rosaries is fine as an extra security (it's basically a banking system) but it's not an alternative for currency recovery

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the only reason the idea of not recovering rosaries exists in the first place is that not being implemented in the 2019 demo which is definitely not indicative of how it'll work in the final product

high hedge
fallen blaze
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You created kirb

high hedge
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Guilty as charged

wheat sail
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mama 🥺

high hedge
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I WILL spray you

potent plover
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I just hope team cherry won’t mess up rosaries in silksong

fallen blaze
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Team cherry try not to ruin things challenge

wheat sail
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impsobile

fallen blaze
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Imposter mobile

potent plover
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I have faith, I just hope they don’t make it too safe, or too punishing

fallen blaze
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I hope it's super safe

wheat sail
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you gotta pick up the rosaries like sonic rings

fallen blaze
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I hope the game in general is super unbalanced

rugged nacelle
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I've come to realize that Christopher Larkin makes really good background music for moist areas. Greenpath, City of Tears, Moss Grotto. Larkin knows how to make moist sound good.

fallen blaze
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I know how to make moist sound good

wheat sail
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whats wrong with chu

opaque sigil
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tbh the fact that runbacks are sticking at all is kinda disappointing

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it was pretty bad in hk

wheat sail
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yeah bosses should just leave after beating you once

coral prawn
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So true

opaque sigil
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the fact that the shade will spawn far enough in some boss rooms that to collect it you have to trigger the fight is one of the most comically awful pieces of game design I've seen

fallen blaze
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Shrimply dont die

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Soul warriro??? Who worried bout soul warrior

potent plover
opaque sigil
potent plover
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But I do agree with the corpse run being kinda ass

opaque sigil
fallen blaze
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Hk should have a life system

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You run out you get shot irl

opaque sigil
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which is 'sometimes you aren't ready to do shit so don't throw yourself at a wall go upgrade'

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and then it forces you to keep throwing yourself at a wall or lose all your cash

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and the only bank is a scam

wheat sail
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it says a lot about hollowciety

opaque sigil
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and the cocoons look like they may be even worse offenders

potent plover
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I like the idea of rosary strings and the trade off being losing rosaries immediately upon death because it keeps losses short term

fleet temple
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I leave for 10 minutes and now we're shitting on the game wtf

opaque sigil
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if you lose all rosaries immediately on death then there's also completely no reason to break the silk meter

opaque sigil
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but they do that

wheat sail
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nobody has played hollow knight

opaque sigil
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it's broken in some screenshots

potent plover
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Feels like In the late game of hk it wasn’t as easy to lose all your geo

opaque sigil
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it doesn't need to be

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in fact it really shouldn't

potent plover
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True

coarse leaf
potent plover
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I think losing short-term rosaries seems like a counter to this

opaque sigil
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it's making it worse

potent plover
coarse leaf
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dont be, I was an idiot when i started playing

opaque sigil
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not having recoverable rosaries makes strings go from a qol boon to an asinine chore

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it's just bad

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and it'll make the economy drag for anybody who isn't willing to just spontaneously lose all their cash if they didn't know a boss was coming

wheat sail
fleet temple
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can we stop hating on the game pls

wheat sail
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ok ❤️

potent plover
coarse leaf
opaque sigil
coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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if they're optional then sure fine

wheat sail
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i also believe insurance is a scam

opaque sigil
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rosary strings would be totally fine qol features if you can recover rosaries from cocoons

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they are not a serviceable alternative to that

languid linden
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TRUE (I am playing Sekiro and it’s basically just doing that wai)

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Fortunately I am now in the endgame and there is very little for me to buy feelspkman

potent plover
opaque sigil
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20% is a stupid amount to have to spend on nothing

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literally nothing

wheat sail
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give me money so i will give you money IF something happens

fleet temple
languid linden
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Imo even 10% is annoying

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5% is acceptable but at that point make it free imo

opaque sigil
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if it was free sure

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and make it automatically do it

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but that would still make very little sense given that the spool breaks

potent plover
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I guess the tax is kinda weird to have

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Maybe it’s for skilled player who don’t die often but what would they need the extra money for lmao

trim estuary
opaque sigil
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it's for people who get anxious about it

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it's peace of mind

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it's like if you could buy relics in hk

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because people do get anxious about it

potent plover
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I hope I phrased that the right way

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Anyways I hope they get it right is what I’m really hoping for

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Also

opaque sigil
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I mean it doesn't seem like it's going to be great regardless but whatever

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corpse collection is a thing

fleet temple
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ss will suck

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bloated mess

potent plover
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They could just get rid of the tax and make everything 20% more expensive

inland ravine
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heya everyone

potent plover
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Or give you 20% less rosaries

pulsar sleet
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Mumashi

potent plover
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I mean it’s behind the scenes so you don’t know your even getting less money

pulsar sleet
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She's cool she likes anime and she's hot and she makes music

potent plover
#

And you aren’t even getting less money really

pulsar sleet
#

I'm talking about Grammy winner Megan thee stallion

#

She's great

potent plover
#

If the goal is to make it a loot run where the relief comes from arriving at a safe spot where you can turn your money into safe money then they should just cut to the core of it

#

No tax needed

opaque sigil
#

then you never lose any meaningful amount of money so the system's all void

#

it's meaningless

potent plover
#

You’re losing money when you die

opaque sigil
#

pennies

fleet temple
#

complaining about won't change the fact that's what's gonna happen

opaque sigil
#

if every bench locks it in you're never holding enough to care

opaque sigil
#

there is a tax

#

you can probably recover your rosaries

#

that would be the best way to do it

#

and there's no reason to think it's not what they're doing

potent plover
opaque sigil
#

no it doesn't depend on that

#

not even a bit

fleet temple
opaque sigil
#

the trailer doesn't show that mechanic

fleet temple
#

I meant demo

opaque sigil
#

and the demo not implementing it doesn't mean anything

fleet temple
#

or wherever it was said

#

what about the rosary string thing

opaque sigil
#

that was an extremely early demo with no actual economy

opaque sigil
fleet temple
#

...

#

what

potent plover
#

?

opaque sigil
#

it would be like being able to buy relics in hollow knight

fleet temple
#

then why does every say it's the other way

opaque sigil
#

because the demo didn't implement it so they assume that's final

#

even though it was a demo and that's a silly assumption

fleet temple
#

I mean didn't the demo still have shell shards being collected upon recovery

opaque sigil
#

what

#

you recover silk

fleet temple
#

give me a minute

grand ferry
#

does hornet fire silk from the wrist

#

or does she have a gun that does that

opaque sigil
#

when you die you keep your shell shards

fleet temple
#

I'VE BEEN LIED TO ALL THESE YEARS

#

just watched the demo footage

opaque sigil
#

it would really suck if you lost the shards lmao

#

you only get tools on your first boss attempt

fleet temple
#

and now after seeing the demo footage I'm reminded of how good this game looks and I'm hyped again 😭

onyx dawn
fleet temple
#

Also I think maybe the death collection system will be different in the final game
because the cocoons feel kinda placeholder-y

opaque sigil
onyx dawn
#

Nice

potent plover
#

They should totally double down and add blood vials to silksongagoneyes

hollow terrace
#

Weve been in the trenches

#

Fighting

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Speculating

#

Theorizing

#

And our names won’t be listed on some grand wall

coral prawn
#

Oh yeah?

kindred pewter
cunning geode
#

but definitely not mine 👹

kindred pewter
#

just chizel your name on it smh

hollow terrace
#

And that’s a good thing because governments utilizing the names of the dead can in theory be utilized by said government to coerce new recruits in joining as future cogs

#

as the names of the dead cant share their truths

#

(As you can see Ive been workshopping some military/political THEMES for some stories)

cunning geode
#

damn

grand ferry
#

fire barrels has to be my favourite weapon in HL2

fallen blaze
#

Popeyes

stoic sigil
#

Why did Hornet get kidnapped, is she stupid?

pulsar sleet
#

Indefinitely

placid tiger
#

Maybe she is stupid

fallen blaze
#

Yornet is so dumb

#

So fcuking dumb

#

Stupid spiderman

flat remnant
#

hornet more like stupid poo

wheat sail
#

i pissed

#

from lauhter

fallen blaze
fleet temple
#

do tell

#

same

uncut flint
#

silksong release tomorrow real

fleet temple
#

I mean why not right

placid tiger
#

its coming

fleet temple
#

in 2026

analog vortex
#

Guys team cherry spins a wheel of every single possible future date

#

What is the possibility of tomorrow

pliant torrent
#

song

analog vortex
#

True

placid tiger
#

Real

coral prawn
#

Cool

wheat sail
tepid zodiac
#

silksong

placid tiger
#

silksong: hollow knight edition

stoic sigil
#

Ultimate Hollow Knight

#

Who here buying Silksong Y1 Pass

wheat sail
#

tabuu not being in ultimate is sad

kindred pewter
wheat sail
#

ai meme

odd sedge
#

YALL SILKSONG WAS JUST SHADOWDROPPED ON STEAM W NO ANNOUNCEMENT

#

DEADASS GUYS :000

coral prawn
#

Ok

odd sedge
#

i lied 😔

#

@wheat sail u want me to pass you some copium?

wheat sail
odd sedge
#

FREE COPIUM, FREE COPIUM

#

GET YOUR FREE COPIUM

wheat sail
#

They planned on releasing it in 2023 but 2024 and no word so far 💀

#

let them cook... something

odd sedge
#

in feb 2024 they said its still in development

#

so

wheat sail
#

wher

wheat sail
#

no shit theyre still making it FUCK U

odd sedge
#

on discord im not gonna find it tho

#

WELL YEAH BUT SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS CANCELLED

wheat sail
#

my bald head is cancelled

odd sedge
#

ALSO DONT FUCK ME FUCK UNITY THEY FUCKED INDIE DEVS

wheat sail
#

TEAM CHERRY IS RICH THEY CAN AFFORD UNITY

heavy warren
odd sedge
#

THEY MIGHT NOT WANNA SUPPORT IT

wheat sail
#

OH YEAH THEY ARE PORTING IT TO RPG MAKER 2003

odd sedge
#

SILKSONG RELEASE DATE, 2003

#

IT RELEASED 21 YEARS AGO BUT ITS LOST MEDIA NOW

heavy warren
fleet temple
#

OMG OMG
HOLY SHIT GUYS

wheat sail
#

oh yeahh we cant make the june 2023 release date, sorry gang

oh yeah when may it release then, or hows the game going

🏃 working on it! (totally not in development hell)

fleet temple
#

SOMEONE ON SS DISCUSSION IS FUNNY FOR ONCE

wheat sail
#

YOU

fleet temple
#

ME

wheat sail
#

sike

#

they are so desperate for ideas

odd sedge
#

no but i think we have no news cuz "expect more details from us once we get closer to release" and they are making the game amazing also theres 3 people working on the game, one is marketing (which rn idk what hes doing)

wheat sail
#

they are funding Pipsqueak! so they release faster and they can steal their ideas

coral prawn
#

I am desperate to get off this boat

grand ferry
coral prawn
grand ferry
#

swim

odd sedge
#

im still mad that the leaker said wed get silksong at xbox games show

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fuck that guy

wheat sail
#

shamelessness

#

anyway i throw it back to this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju7_j6UtlQ0

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group

Give It To Me · Timbaland · Justin Timberlake · Nelly Furtado

Shock Value

℗ 2007 Blackground Records/Interscope Records

Released on: 2007-01-01

Producer, Associated Performer, Drums: Timbaland
Producer, Co- Producer, Associated Performer, Keyboards, Bass Guitar: Danja
Studio Personnel, Record...

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fleet temple
odd sedge
#

oh i was skeptical, but people were PISSED after the showcase

wheat sail
#

team cherry hire marketing guy leth so he can take the piss

#

team cherry themselves not letting him market anything

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🤷‍♂️

#

more work at crosworn

carmine island
odd sedge
#

i mean they may want to wait till its closer to release (idk how its not "closer" after one year) to show another trailer

#

cuz if they think its coming out this year so they say "releasing 2024" then it releases next year

rustic ore
#

how it feels to just let silksong happen instead of fiending for it every day

carmine island
fleet temple
odd sedge
#

okay thats on them for believing it with no evidence whatsoever

fleet temple
wheat sail
#

Thing is if it's an actual leaker with a real source you can't just prove it unless you expose the source and then Nintendo spanks them

#

Pyoro 🫡

#

Team cherry should hire more people for us to rage at and blame

coral prawn
wheat sail
#

The British YouTuber?

coral prawn
#

Idk

#

Either that or the tf2 guy

odd sedge
#

also deep rock corn nice cultist pfp

coral prawn
#

Thanks grubomg

odd sedge
#

best terraria boss

coral prawn
#

So true

wheat sail
#

cultists from slay the spire ong

odd sedge
#

hopefully we get news by the end of the year 🫠

wheat sail
#

Zelda fans can expect some Zelda game each time at least, team cherry is in dev hell

#

Simply put, they're coooked

odd sedge
#

hopefully it gets better

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cuz i think (correct me if im wrong) one person is doing the coidng for the entire game

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and one perisn is doing animation and art

grand ferry
odd sedge
#

me when i get silksong in 30204

grand ferry
#

pyrolive is absolute slop but the main channel is genuinely passionate

fleet temple
odd sedge
#

what yall think releases first: gta6 or silksong

fleet temple
#

the 2023 window wasn't really legit so who knows how far away they are

odd sedge
#

yea

#

i mean w hollow knight we got the release date like 2 weeks before the game releases

fleet temple
wheat sail
# odd sedge and one perisn is doing animation and art

More that people want some crumbs from them sometimes. They could come out and say they're getting cooked and that's why there's been basically nothing but just silence . Feature creeped up to them and they're done for

fleet temple
odd sedge
#

so silksong could be a month away, could be 4 months, could be a year

#

i just wanna know how much closer "closer to release" means

wheat sail
kindred pewter
wheat sail
fleet temple
kindred pewter
#

the thing is

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pyrolive rn are full of videos that you just play on the background and nothing else

#

not as good as pyro's main channel

wheat sail
#

Petscop 3 before ss

fleet temple
#

If you think about it they technically haven't finished all they planned for hollow knight
like they're still working on it

wheat sail
#

Expanded abyss in silksong

grand ferry
wheat sail
#

Team cherry has seen all the metroidvanias that released and know the expectations for the game so they don't wanna disappoint

fleet temple
#

yeah that but also

#

here's the thing

wheat sail
#

So they don't wanna ever show anything to embarrass themselves

fleet temple
#

We all know how hollow knight was only released when it was because TC ran out of money right

wheat sail
#

But them doing all this is raising people expectations

#

Ok

fleet temple
#

After it came out they put all the stuff they didn't finish into the dlcs

#

but

#

but

#

There was one dlc that wasn't released
they planned to make a hornet dlc, which would be the final one and would be the outcome of the 2nd playable character stretch goal
but then they kept working on it, until it became silksong

#

and they're still making it

wheat sail
#

Yeah we know

fleet temple
#

well yes of course

#

I'm just putting it into perspective how heavy they can get hit by feature creep

sage glade
wheat sail
#

A biss

wheat sail
fleet temple
wheat sail
#

3 people working on it, they can still give updates, people acting like I never follow any indie devs many of them can give updates like at least once every few months or something

fleet temple
sage glade
wheat sail
#

Yeah there's nothing concrete but how they act aren't like normal devs who have everything completely under control, so you could say that is some sort of soft evidence or hint

#

Though up to each person to say what's normal

fleet temple
#

I'm not saying I think that TC is in feature creep dev hell and they're just adding with no end in sight until the game becomes a bloated mess
But I am saying that I am concerned of the possibility
I would like to be proven wrong and I do trust TC
it's jsut a fear I have

wheat sail
#

My take is that gleamlight shook them so hard they delayed everything

wheat sail
fleet temple
#

Honestly I think that they really can't say anything now

wheat sail
#

If everything is going smoothly then they aren't acting like it, more like acting like a dev who can't progress and literally can't show or say anything

grand ferry
sage glade
#

can always count on kirb to get the scoops

fleet temple
#

the fact that they had so much silence before, saying anything other than a release date would be met with some less than favourable responses

wheat sail
#

🕵️

sage glade
wheat sail
fleet temple
#

Don't get me wrong, I think the communication could be better but I think it's too late now

wheat sail
#

But if a game is hyped and you never say anything can you really say negative responses are unexpected

wheat sail
#

Good thing the next news will be release news

#

Release date

fleet temple
grand ferry
wheat sail
#

Team cherry sunk cost, realizing they shoulda kept it a dlc

fleet temple
#

same over here

wheat sail
#

Team Cherry ⊕ giving news

grand ferry
#

true

#

how did you get the xor symbol

sage glade
wheat sail
#

But in the meantime it's just "trust me bro"

sage glade
#

i wish they had a logic course for us

#

i feel like 👶 whenever it comes up

sage glade
fleet temple
fleet temple
sage glade
#

I think the communication could be better but I think it's too late now

#

in what sense communication now would be too late?

wheat sail
#

Maybe in terms of just saying 'we're working on it' to make people satisfied , when this far in with barely any news people would want a more detailed update

#

Not that those comments come from team cherry, more like Graig or leth on discord or twitter where most people don't see em

#

Or a Reddit comment who knows

grand ferry
#

very credible

sage glade
fleet temple
# sage glade in what sense communication now would be too late?

It's been over a year since the last actual concrete piece of news from TC
If they were to post something like "hey guys we're still working on the game here are some screenshots blah blah bla" you get the idea" without any sort of hint of a release date, sure some people would be happy but others would find it pointless.
The people who complain about no news would get pissed that it's not a release date
the people who are fine with the wait, like the ones in this server would find it pointless, confirming something we already know and showing off new screenshots would just be spoiling something we could experience for ourselves
Now how does that tie into it being "too late?"
Well you see, if TC gave a small update every few months or so every year since the game was announced, there'd be less pushback because it's expected, People wouldn't be angry about no release date announcement because they'd know we won't have to wait long for the next piece of news from them
whereas now, after over a year of silence I feel like it would be met with something like "It's been a year and this is all you have to say?"
Does anything I just said make sense, or am I just rambling?

wheat sail
#

Graig doesn't even mainly playtest for them anymore

sage glade
wheat sail
#

He only playtests for them time to time now cause he's making a game

wheat sail
#

He used to be lead tester though!

#

But still boils down to were just working on it, not that he can say much

#

Roc odyssey btww

kindred pewter
sage glade
# fleet temple It's been over a year since the last actual concrete piece of news from TC If t...

it makes sense since i do agree with a lot of it. i would still call it sunk cost because it's still speculation about how fans would react rather than whether updates will be worthwhile and quality enough to post from TC's pov. caring about these reactions is just an easy slope into never speaking again just because they haven't spoken in a while. of course if the game is imminent, then maybe it's not worth it. but if there were 2-3 more years left, they should be able to say anything

sage glade
grand ferry
fleet temple
fleet temple
#

Maybe you're right and they are being silent because of an iminent release
I certainly hope so
I'm getting tired man... I want this game

sage glade
#

dangerous levels of copium

fleet temple
#

I didn't say I think it would happen

#

I would like it to but it's highly unlikely

sage glade
#

yes you want it fleascream

fleet temple
#

We all do

coral prawn
fleet temple
#

and when it comes out I'll wish you well on journey to find the next server to turn into an offtopic chat

coral prawn
#

I wont do that

#

Just leave

fallen blaze
#

Good

flat remnant
wide quartz
#

Wow

exotic geyser
#

Hello ss discussion

fleet temple
#

hello ss

coral prawn
#

Good bye ss disc

exotic geyser
high hedge
#

where did ss discussion go

exotic geyser
#

It's in your heart, brave warrior

high hedge
#

thats what drives me forward

coral prawn
#

I just had the greates idea evernomindtoblow

high hedge
#

Very cool new pfp Sarah, refined suit

high hedge
coral prawn
#

No but thats close

exotic geyser
sinful flare
high hedge
#

Oh neat!!

grand ferry
coral prawn
#

Free breadholyshaw

exotic geyser
carmine island
sinful flare
high hedge
exotic geyser
sinful flare
sinful flare
coral prawn
carmine island
#

Real and true

carmine island
exotic geyser
#

I appreciate the sentiment

carmine island
#

Like sandstone?

#

Or limestone?

sinful flare
#

we have 72 hours to live

coral prawn
#

Thats more then enough time

carmine island
#

No it’s not

#

What if you wanted to live for 73 hours?

coral prawn
#

Well that would be a shame

high hedge
#

I remember seeing a watch on the sky mall magazine that looked like it would get me frisked at the airport

exotic geyser
carmine island
exotic geyser
#

I appreciate them too

high hedge
carmine island
#

I’m so smart and funny

#

And can spell

high hedge
#

Sarah has good taste for comedy

midnight trout
exotic geyser
#

damn

carmine island
#

?

high hedge
#

Oh this one uses those little tubes

carmine island
#

They didnt tho

coral prawn
high hedge
#

maybe they DONT want it released

carmine island
#

It’s just a black background

coral prawn
stoic sigil
carmine island
#

Lmao

exotic geyser
#

100% legit, genuine, bonafide monafide Silksong playtester

high hedge
#

Would wearing a watch like this be too much

high hedge
#

how orwellian of you

stoic sigil
#

I'm 100% OSHA approved playtester

midnight trout
exotic geyser
high hedge
#

that makes sense

exotic geyser
#

Actually is that steampunk.?

stoic sigil
high hedge
carmine island
sage glade
high hedge
#

Nixie tubes are kind of in that sphere of technology that look cool but are also outdated

carmine island
high hedge
#

the future from the past

midnight trout
#

its not real dw

#

fake version

high hedge
#

like tesla coils

midnight trout
#

anyways how tf do i beat the final boss in er dlc

exotic geyser
exotic geyser
#

omg

high hedge
#

woooow

midnight trout
carmine island
high hedge
#

its true

carmine island
high hedge
#

it would be an interesting conversation piece if you knew a bit about them as well

#

if you wanted to cosplay a steampunky guy at a convention itd probably be cool

#

you could recommend it to your fellow steampunks

carmine island
coral prawn
#

GAH SPOILERS

carmine island
#

That would suck

wide quartz
#

Bro that's a massive spoiler

high hedge
#

But you have to have crazy dough......

#

lowest I'm seeing is 200 dollars

carmine island
coral prawn
#

I have yet to play the dlc

high hedge
#

Its not a lot for an expensive watch

exotic geyser
high hedge
#

but it is a lot for a novelty

carmine island
#

700 and free shipping is kinda good tho

high hedge
#

I only have my small coal burning engine

exotic geyser
#

What were they used for anyway

midnight trout
carmine island
high hedge
#

I have one of those little coils on my shelf

#

I won it at an arcade when I was like 14

#

it cost like 2 million tickets or something

#

because of the anti coil foundation

#

famously helmed by Anti Coil magnate John Boil

sage glade
#

magnet*

high hedge
#

raddd

high hedge
#

that mustve been cool

exotic geyser
#

Oh yeah there are videos of people using them as an instrument, i bet that's fun

grand ferry
#

use a giant hamster wheel instead

high hedge
exotic geyser
#

That's kind of what's already happening but instead of hamsters its steam

#

I think

high hedge
#

Inside every transformer is about 30 hamster wheels

#

the electricity industry makes power plants and electrical towers as a front

#

actually they're just hamster breeding facilities

atomic sparrow
#

First of all... i am Vegeta.

exotic geyser
atomic sparrow
#

Second of all. You can't be vegeta

exotic geyser
#

What's the difference?

sinful flare
#

its an op item what are you talking about

exotic geyser
#

hmmm i see..

analog vortex
#

BRO

#

ABSRAD GLITCH

coral prawn
#

Shame

analog vortex
#

I WASMFIGHTING ABSRAD

grand ferry
analog vortex
#

AND THE VOID JUST ATE US UP

grand ferry
#

oh

analog vortex
#

IT WAS PHASE 2

grand ferry
#

its fine

analog vortex
#

AND THE VOID WAS CONSUMING YS AND RADIANCE WAS STILL KILLING ME

#

AAAAA

#

I WAS DOING GOOD

limpid mural
sage glade
#

that is metal not wood

coral prawn
#

Thats a fish I believe

lament lotus
coral prawn
lament lotus
#

i don't either grubsad

high hedge
#

They should start calling High Fantasy stories Peak Fantasy to appeal to the youth

#

And replace all mentions of elf with rizzler

wide quartz
#

dwarves are now skibidi midgets

coral prawn
deep laurel
#

I'm just getting bodied anywhere I go in Elden Ring, and it's just the start basically

#

love it

coral prawn
#

Good job👍

deep laurel
#

at least I have a +5 weapon now

wide quartz
#

these damn deer in farm arrays are gonna ruin my run

exotic geyser
#

They have been known to be a nuisance

#

There is a deerless route in Downpour but im not sure if its faster

wide quartz
#

im doing saint

exotic geyser
#

good luck chaos mylajoy

jade canopy
inland ravine
#

heya everyone

fleet temple
#

Tomorrow

#

Tomorrow's the day

#

I can feel it

high hedge
#

Yo hi gwnj

fleet temple
inland ravine
#

regular fleapat
luffy palehug

high hedge
#

Really glad to finally see a trailer for it

subtle flint
#

RAAAAH

inland ravine
#

FUCK

high hedge
#

TRAGIC

subtle flint
#

should rewatch frieren

#

i just finished it

#

but

#

its so good...

inland ravine
#

PEAR

obtuse glacier
#

I watched half of frieren and forgot to finish it

inland ravine
#

PEAR SPOTTED

obtuse glacier
#

Helloooo

inland ravine
#

yes

high hedge
#

Good good

inland ravine
#

THE SONG AND THE ART

high hedge
#

YEAH

inland ravine
#

IT"S SO GOOD

high hedge
#

The music is from the dark souls composer

inland ravine
#

NO WAY :0

high hedge
#

Yeyeye

sinful flare
high hedge
#

True

subtle flint
#

ok

subtle flint
#

too real...

brittle garnet
subtle flint
brittle garnet
heady iron
atomic sparrow
#

will frieren ever come back...

subtle flint
#

frieren was such a fucking banger

#

im thinking if i should read it

high hedge
#

Follow your heart

kindred pewter
#

the manga has gone an a hiatus

#

last time it went for a hiatus it lasted for 6 months

stray compass
kindred pewter
#

skill issue

#

just don't open the chest smh

coral prawn
stray compass
stray compass
#

they ate me

coral prawn
#

If you get tricked by a mimic yoj are legaly a fool

subtle flint
#

theres a certain chest in the elden ring dlc

#

that i fucking screamed at when i realized what it was

coral prawn
kindred pewter
coral prawn
#

No spoilers

atomic sparrow
#

elden ring,,,

kindred pewter
coral prawn
atomic sparrow
#

spoilers:

stray compass
atomic sparrow
#

i am in the game elden ring

kindred pewter
#

brb gonna kill andy a million times

coral prawn