sk-discussion

[stoic sigil]

Like that Fallout guy

[autumn steeple]

If someone were to pay me I would make a very big hoax website talking about Silksong

[woven current]

Trust me. I am the son of Ari's neighbour's dog.

[autumn steeple]

Like massive website

[stoic sigil]

How much

[subtle flint]

i want season 2 of frieren

...

[autumn steeple]

$100

[subtle flint]

or do i just read it now?

[heady iron]

You should also put team cherry's brand on there, it'd be very cool and legal

[silk zodiac]

yeah usually when i finish a show i read it then

[stoic sigil]

Hey guys real leth here Silksong animated series tomorrow

[silk zodiac]

or the other way around yk

[woven current]

And also you should ask for their credit card numbers.

[stoic sigil]

Holy moly

[austere belfry]

release date finally

[stoic sigil]

Holy guacamole

[subtle flint]

have you watched frieren?

[woven current]

My house

[crisp pelican]

Im so glad that silksong is out

[autumn steeple]

If someone buys me a website url I will do it

[silk zodiac]

no, but i plan to at some point

[autumn steeple]

And pays me

[subtle flint]

fuck yeah

[silk zodiac]

heard good things

[subtle flint]

it was so good

[austere belfry]

it was my birthday yesterday can i have silksong please leth

[stoic sigil]

Absolutely not go fuck yourself

[autumn steeple]

💀💀💀

[heady iron]

Frieren is trash cause it doesn't have a hundred fights going on simultaneously

[silk zodiac]

yeah where’s gojo

[autumn steeple]

Guys Leth just dmed me

[woven current]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-gif-26204683

[formal marsh]

i cant count

:(

[autumn steeple]

Silksong has a playable Primal Aspid dlc

TrTrust

[formal marsh]

Guys Leth just dmed me and he said 'this MrLampMan guy is annoying af lol'

[heady iron]

"I want to cherish the friends I make and make good memories of them" STFU GET TO PUNCHING

[stoic sigil]

Guys Jack Vine DMd me, we're getting a LEGO Silksong set

[autumn steeple]

How dare you

[formal marsh]

how can you manage to tell me that and show me a picture without telling me the guy's name

[stoic sigil]

That's his name

[hollow terrace]

Unfortunate

[stoic sigil]

Mr. Prime Minister of Australia

[heady iron]

Is he related to Optimus Prime

[formal marsh]

Mr. Australia

[stoic sigil]

His parents were very confident

[woven current]

Only to Megatron

[glacial wren]

I wish cannibalism was legal

[formal marsh]

why couldnt my parents name me 'Intern at Team Cherry' D:

[carmine island]

It’s Anthony Albanese

[heady iron]

A decepticon can't be a prime

[carmine island]

Real

[silk zodiac]

you missed a few reactions

[woven current]

How many True's are there?

There is also

https://tenor.com/view/adachitrue-gif-15648207830388533365

[formal marsh]

mtoherfucker rickrolled me

😠

[woven current]

It was an accident

[silk zodiac]

i just used that as a reaction

[fiery burrow]

If true... was so good why isn't there tru-🤯

[woven current]

I rickrolled myself too

[subtle flint]

i just lost the game

[silk zodiac]

you’ve doomed us all

[formal marsh]

i hope your knee starts itching while youre wearing jeans and you cant scratch it for at least 3 minutes

[lament lotus]

that character design is cool

whats it from

[stoic sigil]

co

Warframe

[lament lotus]

oh righg

[grand ferry]

headcrabs??

[stoic sigil]

No just Ordis

[fiery burrow]

@ kirb

[stoic sigil]

By the way Play Warframe

[formal marsh]

would you teach a child about taxes if it meant silksong coming out within a month

[silk zodiac]

they look like a lamp

[lament lotus]

its free right

[lament lotus]

you will be a lamp

[formal marsh]

let's just say you don't pay with money

[stoic sigil]

I'd teach a thousand children

[fiery burrow]

Kids are begging to be taught taxes in school

[lament lotus]

children yearn for the mines

[pine frost]

Absolutely

[fiery burrow]

They think its more important that the other stuff they are being taught. Do they not realize you can just not do taxes

[hollow terrace]

Real talk Kids and anyone advocating for that are bullshiting because stuff like that doesn’t carry over like most stuff

[formal marsh]

taxes are like robin hood taking away money from the rich to give to the poor but instead it takes money from everyone and gives it to the richest

[woven current]

Hi

[stoic sigil]

Hi

[warped rock]

and like anybody would pay attention to it

[hollow terrace]

they’re just asking for a FREE CLASS to goof off

[fiery burrow]

They need the extra sleep that taxes class would provide

[spare fractal]

my school had a class that was purely dedicated to learning economy, not even a year later, they replaced that class with astronomy class and then french class

[heady iron]

from mid to awesome to bad

[grand ferry]

did you learn the economy class

[spare fractal]

I did economy in 7th grade and astronomy in 8th, but I never got french classes...

[fiery burrow]

Astrology class should be next

[warped rock]

why go to astrology class when you can play outerwilds

[stoic sigil]

TRUE

Outer Worlds is great

[hollow terrace]

Astrology is different from astronomy

[stoic sigil]

Correct

The children must learn about Virgos

[formal marsh]

I heard outwe wields was good so i watched a full gameplay of it to make sure

still didnt know if i wanted to buy the game so i read every page on the wiki

[woven current]

Literally me before buying a new game

[formal marsh]

that used to be me but nowadays i just dont buy games

[woven current]

?

[formal marsh]

no i just replay the same games

• play online games

and i still have a lot of my library left to play

[heady iron]

why play game when you can make game

[grand ferry]

coding hard

[hollow terrace]

Make game is boring

[woven current]

why make game when you can be game

[formal marsh]

I dfon't kjmaoismfk,ln msakfsa

[grand ferry]

play chess instead

[woven current]

No, play checkers instead.

[fleet temple]

anyone want to make a game and have me take all the credit for it?

[hollow terrace]

Damn they weren’t lying being lost in a crowded forest does make it dark as hell

[woven current]

Literally me

[fleet temple]

omg it's me

[warped rock]

me

[cerulean sable]

cherry madness

[fleet temple]

also
"MMORPG with multiple endings where your choices matter"
Holy shit why has no one thought of this

[woven current]

I found the complete article and it's the best thing I have ever read.

[cerulean sable]

(i feel like this is such an old meme that noone recognizes it anymore though)

[grand ferry]

(ur old)

[cerulean sable]

yure

[formal marsh]

i do not recognize it

whats cherry madness

[cerulean sable]

let me find it

basically someone in the modding channel (back then when it was one singular channel) kept logging and iterating his ideas for a whole new area

the guy certainly doesnt know english that much iirc and it was essentially uhh "if someone is interested in my idea pls message me" type of deal

Ladies and gentelmen, new mod from me: Cherry madness and in it:
Now locations: West Berryier, Snail home and bone forest
Explore the old bug farm giving the food for all rest of kingdom. Now doomed by plague is full of bloodlust plants, farmers ready to harvest soul from others and more!
Whole new Weapons!
crossbow (50% bestiary ) ( additional weapon)
scythe (from an boss. Everyone know wich) (main weapon)
shield ( Coloseum) (additional)
cherry granades (new location) (additional)
Charms:
Snails glue 2 notches
make you dont sliding of an wall while using mantis claws
In Unns shape: allow you to stick to walls and even ceiling. (like those Little white ones on howling clifs)
berry boom 2 notches
each focus (if you have no lifemask x) give you additional lifemask x made of beeries
when lifemask x is destroyed it make an explosion around knight
winged shoot 3 notches
-simply auto aim for crossbow and soul blast
6 now Bosses, and 50 enemies
7 new npcs, and a brand new customization shop

[fiery burrow]

bro thought this was pvz

[wheat sail]

i am the idea maker, you do the code and art and music and animation

[hollow terrace]

What a cute idea

FIFTY?!?

Literally 1/3 of the base game

[silk zodiac]

specifically 7 new npcs

[woven current]

Having the Knight with a scythe would be cool though.

[wheat sail]

soul eater

[cerulean sable]

you know those times, where someone is obviously baiting or pretending to throw out this ideas just to shitpost
but on special cases and after a long enough while, you realize:
No, this person is actually fucking dead serious about this

this is one of those few cases

[fiery burrow]

I feel like a lot of weapons would make balancing a lot trickier

Its not impossible but I do enjoy the focus of a single weapon

[fleet temple]

bro just started making silksong

[woven current]

Did that guy ever appear again?

[hollow terrace]

My game mod idea was making small split off area in crystal peaks and being ground zero of infection and dissent tbh

with ONE boss

[narrow grotto]

@cerulean sable hows your daya been

[cerulean sable]

tbf at one point i told myself prior to Silksong
"god i wish we had new 'weapons' in the DLC, maybe not entirely give her a weapon but change her moveset? that would be cool but sounds like a lot of work so its definitely just a dream pipeline"

then fast forward we got Crests so uhhh, good luck to TC balancing that out 🥴

[formal marsh]

LMFAOOOOO

[fleet temple]

This definitely feels like this person was making up these ideas based on whatever game he was playing at the time

[cerulean sable]

uhhh, aight i guess

[formal marsh]

i love how they made some stuff up randomly it's so funny

[fiery burrow]

Silksong balance is gonna be nuts

[cerulean sable]

defo

[narrow grotto]

tbch im just so hyped for silksong to come out i don't even care how the balance is

[fleet temple]

and people wonder what's taking so long

[warped rock]

waiter! waiter! more dreamshield notches!

[narrow grotto]

i just wanna play it

[woven current]

Me when I imagine a game with "brand new ideas" (it's just stealing and combining ideas from games I have played)

[fiery burrow]

The charms weren't well balanced in HK so its definitely a huge step up to have tools and crests and whatnot

[formal marsh]

TC said somewhere that crests would be more about playstyle than power but I may be making this up

[narrow grotto]

hk really shouldve had more charm notches

[cerulean sable]

this is not random btw, cuz i remember him posting this every couple of weeks with new ideas and everytime someone kept asking "cool uhh, so how are you gonna make this"

his response was more or less "i am willing to find a programmer to help me with this while i facilitate the direction of the mod"

[formal marsh]

no it shouldnt

[woven current]

Then P5 would be easier

[formal marsh]

this is so funny 😭

[fleet temple]

I mean that is kinda how a lot of games are made

[formal marsh]

they want to hire a programmer but for free

[warped rock]

free programmers are never motivated

[fiery burrow]

The exposure they'll get from that job would be crazy though

[heady iron]

Here's a cool one from the modding server:

Hey guys
If you can program mods, animate characters, write music, draw backgrounds, just sprites of characters, then write to me in private messages.
Together we will make a mod where many amulets, bosses, locations, mechanics will be added...
We will change the Hollow Knight with the "Secrets of Hallownest" mod

A little bit of what we are implementing:

New amulet : the shine of the soul
Each parry replenishes 33% of the soul

New NPC : Old Cricket:
He will be sitting in the "extinguished campfire" location and doing work. after completing the quest cricket will give the character a new amulet...

New location : extinguished bonfire
This place used to be the home of many outcasts, but the pale king destroyed it and there is no one here... probably...

New mechanics: Swimming underwater
You will be able to swim underwater and search for new secrets...

And many, many more things... 

[cerulean sable]

kid named Chucklefish

[wheat sail]

invest in NVIDIA while volunteering

[formal marsh]

the random part is the amount of enemies and npcs though
them designing 7 npcs isn't impossible, but i doubt they actually had 50 enemies. i doubt they actually had ideas for that

either that or they repeated the same one multiple times

[grand ferry]

gonna tank soon trust me

[woven current]

It's probably 5 types of enemies with little variations

[grand ferry]

i will roll a dice and give u financial advice based on that

[wheat sail]

Supreme Aspid: just rapidly shoots at you at 2 bullets per second

[fiery burrow]

Wasn't that Leth's old employer.

What'd they do

[wheat sail]

yessirrr

[cerulean sable]

these guys are type of commenters you see failed games that simplifies stuff to "why didnt they just make a good game its that easy???"

[formal marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-primal-aspid-machine-gun-minigun-i-hate-it-gif-17572793

[narrow grotto]

i have that mod going through kingdoms edge is like being on a firing sqaud

[wheat sail]

if in doubt, just make recoloured enemies

[woven current]

Green Brooding Mawlek

[wheat sail]

because its green it has triple hp

[fleet temple]

This how r/silksong users think games are made

[wheat sail]

and nothing else about it is changed

[cerulean sable]

basically the main lead is an asshole
he tends to compensate people by NOT compensating them and instead playing the "you will have exposure which means youll have an easier time in the industry"

with their most recent mess being that they contracted a 15 year old to work for them for free under that notion

[woven current]

If it is red, it deals more damage

If it is golden, it's rare

[wheat sail]

oooo

[hollow terrace]

There’s gonna one crest play style that utilizes spread out tick damage and if you aim it just right you can consolidate all the damage in one area allowing BIG damage

[fiery burrow]

Oh

[wheat sail]

chucklefish are the wargroove publisher?

[cerulean sable]

theres another case, there was a guy who composed for them and said "ohh uh, how am i gonna get paid btw?" and the lead said "EXPOSURE, IMAGINE YOUR NAME IN A GAME LIKE THIS" or some shit like that and he said nah

so the lead dev went on a tirade about how hes a shit composer anyway and he can probably do a better job

[wheat sail]

[fiery burrow]

A part of me wishes they bring back the glorification system for Silksong but that may just be pointless bloat

[cerulean sable]

Toby Fox and Concerned Ape also had chimes about this

[atomic sparrow]

Toby "Undertale" Fox ???

[wheat sail]

Glory kills and backstabs

[cerulean sable]

Actually I composed about an hour of WIP music that ended up completely scrapped because I wasn't in the IRC channel enough. I left after that. I completely believe what Clark and everyone else are saying.

[spare fractal]

I unironically wish they bring Godseeker back for Silksong and the hardest achievement of the game is just Pantheon of Hallownest all over again.

[woven current]

Corcened "Stardew" Ape

[cerulean sable]

sorry full context

[silk zodiac]

including hollow knight’s p5

[narrow grotto]

it'd be the pantheon of farloom 🤓👆

[wheat sail]

why dont they want exposure? are they stupid

[cerulean sable]

i still think if they ever do a boss rush thing again, they can avoid doing the entire Godmaster debacle again

[woven current]

Instead of pantheon, name it temple.

[fiery burrow]

Thats upsetting

[fleet temple]

no it's the exact same as hollow knight, same bosses, same ending

[spare fractal]

Imagine playing radiant Gruz Mother as Hornet instead of the Knight! Ooooh! Exciting!

[silk zodiac]

imagine hornet vs hornet and hornet 2

[woven current]

Radiant Markoth 2.0

[silk zodiac]

crazy

[wheat sail]

Silky Moss Mother

👅

[fiery burrow]

Lets make the boss rush canon what could go wrong

I mean thats not too bad even just go for the memory route

[woven current]

The only battle that changed would be the Hornet one, you would fight The Knight.

[cerulean sable]

im not saying my idea is better but another way ive been thinking about it is the bard system etc and its essentially a bard going through writers block and ending up leaning to Hornet's battle for inspiration

and essentially the refights are him trying to do a retelling of Hornet's adventure in Pharloom, with the harder fights reasoned as being embellishment by the writer to make the fight sound cooler

ie "oh what if, instead of 6 watcher knights youre fighting against 8!"

[spare fractal]

They should honestly just add Pantheon of Hallownest from Hollow Knight with no changes except you're playing as Hornet so we can have a Super Luigi Galaxy moment in Silksong.

[atomic sparrow]

lol... lmao. 8 ? nah make that 10

[cerulean sable]

and hornet dying in those refights is the bard accidentally ending it with a shitty "oh and you died in the end, oh wait that doesnt sound good, uhh want me to rewrite that?"

[spare fractal]

Nah make Hornet fight herself twice

[woven current]

20 watcher knights.

[atomic sparrow]

30 !

[narrow grotto]

AW HELL NAW 8?

[woven current]

Fight 4 of them at once.

[atomic sparrow]

TRUE

[fiery burrow]

What if during your epic battle with the Last Judge the arena was flaming and full of lava, Hornet?

[silk zodiac]

that’s basically what i said lol

[woven current]

Is there a mod that puts more watcher knights in their battle?

[silk zodiac]

yeah

[narrow grotto]

i alreaady had enough with the watcher knights as is

[silk zodiac]

wait more

idk

[spare fractal]

Godseeker's lore has potential, yeah I said it

[atomic sparrow]

just debug mod and spawn them in yourself

[silk zodiac]

i thought you meanr awakens more

[cerulean sable]

then instead of Pantheons, they can be called "Compositions" (Pantheon equivalent) and "Movements" (individual boss fights)

so a Composition (say named Hymn of Hunters) will have multiple "Movements" containing all of the early boss fights of the game

it kinda still goes inline with the entire music theme of Silksong

[narrow grotto]

the pantheons are already canon

[atomic sparrow]

🧠

[fleet temple]

stop saying cool ideas you're making me excited for the game

[cerulean sable]

not saying my idea is good, just my pitch if they wanna do a boss rush style without having to incorporate the Godmasters again

[fiery burrow]

Also Tidetale storyteller reference

[marsh ibex]

they could do that

also just

Leave it

As a fucking

SIDE QUEST

[atomic sparrow]

alright chat what is cat name ?

[silk zodiac]

too in depth, i think they’ll call them funny fun times 1-5

[woven current]

Uni

[marsh ibex]

potato

[formal marsh]

that is a very good idea

[formal marsh]

big boobs

[atomic sparrow]

WRONG HIS NAME IS UNI

[spare fractal]

They shoudl bring Godseeker back I want more godseeker lore tbh

[atomic sparrow]

RAGHHHHHHHH

[narrow grotto]

king jequalias bartholemew the 16th

[marsh ibex]

that won’t work godseeker is effectively dead

[hollow terrace]

But what if they call it songs

[woven current]

I got it right! I am such a genius.

[atomic sparrow]

IT'S RIGHT THERE

in the picture !!

[marsh ibex]

Her body is gone hornet isn’t someone who can rifle through the dream realm to do that

[fiery burrow]

Conductor Romino is the Godseeker equivalent

[marsh ibex]

that or she’s locked in a coffin

[hollow terrace]

Because each fight is like a-(gunshots)

[spare fractal]

give her a dream needle

[marsh ibex]

also yada yada repetition lazy writing boring blah blah

[fiery burrow]

They should also bring back Grimm

Bretta too

[marsh ibex]

and quirrel

[woven current]

And Zote

[narrow grotto]

hornet CAN be somone who can rifle through the dream realm

[formal marsh]

what is she supposed to use the needle on

[atomic sparrow]

dreamers

[woven current]

He somehow got there and nobody cares how.

[spare fractal]

no don't bring him back his sidequest sucks
do bring bretta back though she's cool

[cerulean sable]

Yeah, kinda like that
so in HK context, instead of having spikes in the Ascendent fights just cuz, it will be because the writer said "fuck man what if i made your fight cooler by adding multiple spikes in the arena"

its that type of meta weaving that happens in a game called Call of Juarez Gunslinger, where the entire game is essentially a retelling in a bar by the main character. At one point the main character mentions he got ambushed by 4 gunslingers on a train, then the guy listening to him mentions his inconsistency in the story, so he said "oh wait yeah i misremembered, there were no gunslingers in that train" so in game the 4 guys just fucking despawns out of your face lmao

[narrow grotto]

more bretta faanfics for us ig

[heady iron]

I think it'd be cool if modders made a mod for silksong (if it comes out, right guys?) where you revisit Hallownest and fight all the old bosses as Hornet. I think that'd be awesome

[marsh ibex]

I was gonna write a paragraph on lore instead I’ll call you smelly

[narrow grotto]

silksong is confirmed to come out late this year early next year

[marsh ibex]

and a dweeb

[fiery burrow]

I'll have to check that game out

[spare fractal]

including hornet herself

[cerulean sable]

so its kinda like "oh and i got fucking shot by a sniper, 6 of them!" and the game just spawns 6 snipers

then halfway it becomes "was it a sniper? no wait no it was just a regular dude"

and the game just swaps it midway cuz the guy is inconsistent with his story

[grand ferry]

just like tf2

[cerulean sable]

TRUE

[atomic sparrow]

so what if this bard guy says 10 radiances

what then

[woven current]

10 radiances appear.

[marsh ibex]

you get shitty copies of rad

[atomic sparrow]

fuck

[marsh ibex]

a la the one in hall of gods

[heady iron]

Imagine if the retelling affected the present time

[woven current]

Last boss fight should be against the bard.

[marsh ibex]

sure gameplay wise no actual degradation is present but wub

[spare fractal]

I really want godseeker to come back as the boss rush

[atomic sparrow]

this bard guy too op

[heady iron]

"And then you had to face a hundred snipers right?"
storyteller fades away

[cerulean sable]

if you die he goes kinda like
"Oh and you did this call flip then you slipped face flat on the floor and died! You did die right? But then again youre here, so you didnt, did you? Uhh let me rewrite that for you"

Retell this fight?

[atomic sparrow]

yeah Retell this fight

[narrow grotto]

nahbro the villain is silksong finna be ecnaidar

[fleet temple]

no, I'M saying you're idea is good

[spare fractal]

It just makes so much sense

[fleet temple]

or at least is making me think about the game again

[cerulean sable]

i do not want to assume 🥴

[formal marsh]

your idea is very good

[atomic sparrow]

yeah team cherry take notes

[spare fractal]

honestly though this idea is awesome probably better than just bringing godseeker back

[marsh ibex]

I hope godseeker explodes

oh wait

[fleet temple]

yeah, and now I'm thinking about the game and getting excited
how dare you
I can't wait for 2 years if I'm constantly hyped

[marsh ibex]

props to you ttacco

[silk zodiac]

2 years?

[marsh ibex]

good ass idea

did you name them

[fleet temple]

2026 is my release prediction

[fiery burrow]

2028 gang

[spare fractal]

if silksong doesn't have a boss rush on release I'm gonna be so mad...

[narrow grotto]

silksong is confirmed to come out late this year early next year

[spare fractal]

yeah they confirmed it I forgot about that!

[fleet temple]

https://tenor.com/view/young-sheldon-source-do-you-have-a-source-do-you-have-a-source-to-back-that-up-peer-reviewed-study-gif-25147480

[marsh ibex]

didn’t they say they hoped people didn’t expect another one of those

[fleet temple]

I don't think they'll do a boss rush
I do think they'll be a hall of gods equivalent though

[spare fractal]

when did they?

[marsh ibex]

someone’s reddit post iirc

[spare fractal]

I WANT A BOSS RUSH TEAM CHERRY

[atomic sparrow]

well a mod will eventually release

[marsh ibex]

you know someone meets tc asks them random shit blah blah

[narrow grotto]

it waas on some sort of gaaming thing that only included games that you expect to see within the next twelve months aand i beleive it was released a bit ago

[spare fractal]

PLEASE DELAY SILKSONG TO 2029 TO MAKE THE BOSS RUSH

[fiery burrow]

Hop on chinese whispers

[daring hemlock]

😐

[marsh ibex]

sorry man I don’t want to play a rain world mod

[narrow grotto]

AW HELL NAW JUST MAAKE IT A DLC

[hollow terrace]

I called it broken telephone

[fleet temple]

oh you mean the xbox showcase from 2 years ago?

[spare fractal]

THE PANTHEONS ARE SO FUCKING GOOD (except 5) I WANT A BOSS RUSH IN THE SEQUEL

[narrow grotto]

i dont think it was 2 years ago right?

[cerulean sable]

Could be yeah, my personal suggestion would be:
Each boss is a **song **of or a sonnet
Then each **movement **contains multiple **songs **or sonnets
Each movement is suppose to get harder as a show of Hornet getting stronger ie

"Psalm of Wayfarer's" - Early Game Bosses (ie Moss Mom) / Pantheon 1
"Hymn of the Hunters" - Mid Game Bosses (ie Lace) / Pantheon 2
"Symphony of the Knights" (hehe) - Late Game Bosses / Pantheon 3
"Chorale of the Conductors" - End Game / Pantheon 4
"The Grand Orchestra" - Pantheon 5

[hollow terrace]

That’s so swell

[atomic sparrow]

they should call it... silksongs...

👍

[cerulean sable]

The Silk Song

[narrow grotto]

that sounds dumb

[spare fractal]

can we agree that the pantheons are great? (at least p1-4)

[atomic sparrow]

WTF !!!

[silk zodiac]

read that as Chortles of the Conductors Fawful has fucked my reading comprehension

[hollow terrace]

Choo choo

YOOOOOO

[wheat sail]

eat the green mushroom

[hollow terrace]

silksong should have trains

[spare fractal]

Fawful?!

[fiery burrow]

p1-4 are mediocre. They aren't exhausting like p5 but they are just recycled content

[fleet temple]

depends, are we talking about the same thing?

[narrow grotto]

i love eating mushrooms

[silk zodiac]

yeah; “I HAVE CHORTLES”

[fiery burrow]

New bosses are neat though

[crisp pelican]

NOT MISTER MUSHROOM

HE DID NOTHING WRONG

[spare fractal]

I HAVE CHORTLES TOO 🗣️

[narrow grotto]

idk bro look it up or sm i just heard it

[spare fractal]

what the hell the pantheons are the best part of the game...

[narrow grotto]

im bouta stirfry mister mushroom

[cerulean sable]

man imagine if Silksong had a super secret society that does academics and assassinations and theyd be called the Choir that would be fitting and would sound cool rig- oh wait:

[silk zodiac]

i could go for a mushroom stir fry rn

[narrow grotto]

real

[cerulean sable]

unironically the hardest looking set in the game btw

[fleet temple]

unless you mean that one wanderingdutch guy who was just making shit up

[hollow terrace]

STEEL CLAN WILL HAVE FUNNY NAMING CONVENTIONS

TRUST

[cerulean sable]

there are 2 ways

[narrow grotto]

nah it was some sort of gaming event i saw a clip

[cerulean sable]

they either have a 12 year old written name

or theyd be bland af

[fleet temple]

was it xbox?

[narrow grotto]

not sure just saw a tiny snippit

[narrow grotto]

whys he look like hes one step away from a sumo stance

[cerulean sable]

option A would be something like "The Blackened Steels"
option B would be something like "The Iron Buddies"

[atomic sparrow]

b

[cerulean sable]

option B would be that but Sharpe insist they get a cooler name

[hollow terrace]

Steel assassin Sharpe and Steel Soul Jinn is already there

I wonder if theres naming scheme for the names

[fleet temple]

and you took that as fact that the game is coming out late this year early next year?

[cerulean sable]

if the name kinda sounds like theyre based of like eastern medieval

[narrow grotto]

thaats what it said i didn't rlly do any deep research i was just kinda like oh thats cool and then moved on

[cerulean sable]

i feel like them having Clan in their name is inevitable

[fleet temple]

well even if it's legit the last time ss was meant to release within 12 months that didn't happen so 🤷

[fallen blaze]

Mario Luigi dance

[cerulean sable]

again headcanon (totally viable!!)

Pharloom - Italy
Ant Kingdom - Spain / Iberia
Hallownest - British Isles
Zemer's place - France

[silk zodiac]

[heady iron]

infected crossroads: America

[cerulean sable]

also Italy = Rome = Seat of the CHURCH's power + music related stuff

[wheat sail]

when you level up but only get the +1

[narrow grotto]

as an american i can confirm

[silk zodiac]

[cerulean sable]

i bet my fucking ass: TC will use cool Italian sounding words like Intermezzo or Vivacissimo for the bell guys

[formal marsh]

I hope silksong lets you pet something

[spare fractal]

Maybe I should replay Hollow Knight...

[heady iron]

you'll be able to pet sherma

as he lays dying in your arms

[formal marsh]

I would rsther not

[silk zodiac]

nah replay pikmin 1 and 2 patoo instead

[grand ferry]

the wasteland beyond howling cliffs = canada

[hollow terrace]

Can’t wait for the mispronunciation in videos

[spare fractal]

YESYESYESYESYESYES

[wheat sail]

everything not southern canada

[cerulean sable]

kinda related, and this might just be a me issue

but i dislike the trend of "pet the dog" type of deal into some marketing gimmick

i know it sounds like a weird issue

[wheat sail]

pet the like button

[heady iron]

but it's heckin wholesome

[silk zodiac]

pet that subscribe button in the face

[cerulean sable]

but for me it went from "this is a wholesome edition to our game" to "LOOK GUYS YOU CAN PET THE DOG WHOLESOME AMIRITE BUY OUR GAME!!!"

[heady iron]

makes a game an instant 10/10

[silk zodiac]

like a boss

[grand ferry]

LOOKS GUY YOU CAN CLICK AND PET THE BANANA

[cerulean sable]

again i know its such a weird thing to complain about

[heady iron]

must buy, no corporate bullshit anywhere

[silk zodiac]

[narrow grotto]

pet the horrendusly hideous looking bug that you just so happened to find whimpering at your feet 😀👍

[hollow terrace]

What was the word in hollow knight that simo or benji or someone else was deadset on it being the proper way despite otherwise

[cerulean sable]

but i personally see the pet the x gimmick to be stripped down into just another marketing point

[hollow terrace]

I might be gaslighting myself on that bit

[cerulean sable]

the fucking cheese spitter?

[formal marsh]

i can see that

[heady iron]

if your visceral horror game themed around psychosis doesn't have a heckin chonker to pet then your game is a 0/10

[lament lotus]

me when i kill you

[opal dew]

I saw a YouTube video where the guy making it asserts that the moment a franchise has become visibly creatively bankrupt is when they introduce a dog as a main feature

[heady iron]

dirtmouth?

[rare oracle]

I have a fear of silksong

[hollow terrace]

Perhaps

[rare oracle]

Like literally

It's not even funny

I don't wanna play elden ring and then I get distracted with silksong

[hollow terrace]

Itll probably happen sorry

[lament lotus]

i cant comprehend the last minute of chat

[spare fractal]

I'm going to sleep now

Good night everyone

[lament lotus]

like what does this shit evej mean

[cerulean sable]

i wouldnt say theyre creatively bankrupt but it has the same vibes to me as Hello Neighbor constantly pestering GameTheory to cover their game, if that makes sense?

[lament lotus]

good night patoo

[rare oracle]

Chat did I cook with cable management

[cerulean sable]

could probably tie those loops better but all in all its good

[lament lotus]

work on your ceiling lights

[rare oracle]

Left is before

[cerulean sable]

i think some people do double ties

ohhh

[rare oracle]

Right is after

[cerulean sable]

im a fucking idiot

yeah you cooked

[rare oracle]

I forgot to say

[silk zodiac]

[rare oracle]

What is that

[grand ferry]

smallant

[rare oracle]

I can change the color if that's what you mean

[rare oracle]

Watching his hk playthrough

[fleet temple]

To me it feels more they don't have faith in the quality of their own game so they do stuff like this

[rare oracle]

He cooked

[grand ferry]

raw

[lament lotus]

ceiling lights

the technology that grants you radiance at dusk

[rare oracle]

I have 2 light colors

Orange and white

And darkness

[rare oracle]

Aka no light

[cerulean sable]

again i wouldnt say all games that do it means the quality isnt expected to be good, but yeah as a trend it feels like another disingenous marketing gimmick but you gotta do what you gotta do to get attention

doesnt mean i wont roll my eyes whenever i see trend chasers

[silk zodiac]

people still make those hk title creations?

[lament lotus]

are they orange rn

[rare oracle]

What's sad is that I can't even read this

[silk zodiac]

eyesight diff

[lament lotus]

here i made it bigger

[silk zodiac]

how very thoughtful of you astro

[fleet temple]

ok enough fun time to see what r/silksong is up to

[lament lotus]

[hasty lintel]

Garb??

ascend with garb

[lament lotus]

this garb is so cool

bloodborne cooked with this

[crisp pelican]

Yo guys

You're never gonna guess what I'm about to say

[lament lotus]

what mod killed him

[full ledge]

nothing

[rare oracle]

woah

i need bigger

i think i can do better

[crisp pelican]

I'm being silenced

[rare oracle]

there

[crisp pelican]

||I'm so glad that silksong is out||

[rare oracle]

actaully smaller but who cares

[lament lotus]

zoom in 😭

[rare oracle]

is there an actual meaning

or am i tripping

[rare oracle]

i like to imagine that silksong is already out and team cherry is like really sad because nobody is buying the game, and nobody realized that the game is out

[crisp pelican]

Imagine no further, it is true

[rare oracle]

true

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-gif-19850229

[rare oracle]

me if team cherry doesnt release silksong, but instead of lifeblood i use a 25 BESS knife

[crisp pelican]

Me when I die in p5 (that's not lifeblood)

We had the same idea

[hazy summit]

Im going crazy trying to figure out how to make Ai pathfinding logic for a bot in a 2d grid game

[grand ferry]

breadth/depth first search

[hazy summit]

Yeah
I should do that thanks

it doesnt help that im trying to do it in Scratch

[heady iron]

walls be damned, make it go through them

[hazy summit]

HAHAHA
I was thinking of that

It would be so much easier

[fleet temple]

r/silksong just don't miss

[heady iron]

I just realized r/silksong is the r/titanfolk, r/berserklejerk of the hk community

[languid linden]

Huh

[grand ferry]

we should delete the subreddit

[charred surge]

When you have to wait marginally longer than for the original

[opaque sigil]

oh no not self righteous redditors

[fleet temple]

-71 upvotes for the only reasonable comment 😭

I like the logic of it needs to be 300x better than hollow knight but also it can't take too long

[charred surge]

I think game devs should release objectively incorrect information at random intervals, ie things that are just not gonna be in the game at all, stuff like that

This would have no downsides

[grand ferry]

pve mode

[lament lotus]

what the fuck

[opaque sigil]

nah they have to work in real stuff too

[charred surge]

Exactly

[opaque sigil]

but only the weirdest real stuff whereas a lot of the fake stuff is very pedestrian

[charred surge]

https://tenor.com/view/cosmic-angel-ascended-ascension-gif-21289430

[chilly nexus]

ngl that's basically a still from the newest d2 raid

[cunning geode]

but it’s animated

[hollow terrace]

D2 is animated too

[cunning geode]

i thought it was a text adventure game

[charred surge]

d2? They released a sequel to a letter of the alphabet???

[cunning geode]

yeah it’s called

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22506386

sorry this gif sucks i just had to get something quickly or else the bit would die

guess you can say i’m not on my A game today…

👹

[hollow terrace]

I wish we could bring back dinosaurs

And other saurs

[cunning geode]

funny thing about that

:hollogre:

[charred surge]

Good news, dinosaurs never technically left

[cunning geode]

you fool that was my implication

sentenced to swab the deck

[hollow terrace]

They can’t live in our current climate… our oxygen levels aren’t as abundant for bigger saurs….

[cunning geode]

what about big bird

[high hedge]

Aberration

[hollow terrace]

a fraud

[high hedge]

Affront to God

[charred surge]

What do you think an ostrich is idot

[high hedge]

Thats why Big Bird was fated to blow up in The Challenger

But fate is not set in stone

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/paolumu-odogaron-monster-hunter-world-destroy-mhw-gif-12955710175627893233

[hollow terrace]

Poor fella

[lament lotus]

what is that thing hes eating

[cunning geode]

a paolumu

[lament lotus]

aw man poor guy

[ionic arch]

accurate ostrich

[cerulean sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulJCHxNoy_4

r silksong post release:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhhPguXYRXs

also obligatory why i was always against making a seperate subreddit for HK and SS

i think a more centralized sub would be easier to moderate vs to allowing incompetents to make their own offshoots

main sub is still good because it actually has competent moderators that didnt allow this behavior to perpetuate to begin with, whereas r ss just goes under the disguise of "its just shitposting sub guys why do you take it so seriously"

[opaque sigil]

at the same time it also means that the psychos don't have ground to anchor in outside of their echo chamber

which is in some ways bad

but it also means that the main subreddit can just not worry about those folk

[cerulean sable]

something something necessary evil

[opaque sigil]

there's only so much a subreddit can radicalize around a video game not coming out fast enough

while that community does have some concerning tendencies it's probably not going to escalate to real action

[fleet temple]

I like seeing the disparity between the two subs
like one is full of entitled angry people and the same painfully unfunny jokes repeating themselves
And then you go to r/hollowknight and it's just new people experiencing the game for the first time and it's weirdly wholesome

[opaque sigil]

hk is getting more players all the time

[cerulean sable]

someone once tried to bring that same rhetoric to main
and all it got was like several posters saying "jesus christ, bring your fucking reasoning and go back to r/silksong"

[lament lotus]

huh where have i seen this before

[cerulean sable]

le popular indie game creator has arrived

[fleet temple]

r/silksong is just sad atp

[opaque sigil]

actually tho

[cerulean sable]

when you put mentally immature teenagers in a single room without someone putting them back to reality :^)

[opaque sigil]

people who have never done anything in their lives complaining about how tc is taking too long to perform a project they couldn't even begin to approach

[lament lotus]

i never actually expected other indies to have this

[cerulean sable]

case and point, same guy whos highly upvoted in that sub tried saying the same thing in another sub (r/games) and all it got was "bro were kinda iffy with the comms too but why are you focusing so much on hype like the game depends on it lmao chill go outside"

[lament lotus]

ig this is just what happens when there isnt news with a fanbase full of kids

[opaque sigil]

leaving an echo chamber is jarring

[cerulean sable]

or more like, this is the first time waiting for something this long

i remember 4-5 years being my standard for any games back in the days

[cunning geode]

damn that sucks. yknow i would just do this anyways probably but this furthers the idea that i’d keep ultra quiet about a game or other piece of art i’m working on long time until i can just release it to be experienced

[cerulean sable]

if i see a cool AAA, i bet my ass its going to be out within 4 years minimum

[opaque sigil]

well for aaas they tend not to make it that far out but yeah

[cerulean sable]

i take solace knowing that were not the only fandom suffering from this parasocial behaviour :^)

[fleet temple]

it's also because I feel there is kind of a discussion to be had on how communication should be handled with games but these people just make it impossible to take seriously

[cunning geode]

i think it’s still sad

[cerulean sable]

i also think its a consequence of how social media works nowadays

like majority of these kids are definitely used to having almost near daily communication and creating this sort of relationship with the devs

[opaque sigil]

I mean there kind of isn't that much of a conversation to be had about how communication 'should' be handled with games because nobody on r/silksong is arguing from anything other than a 'I want it' perspective

[cerulean sable]

a yearly update here and there wasnt that abnormal but now youre expected to interact closely with fans so if you dont follow that, youre in some kind of red zone in terms of comms

[sacred stratus]

I’m so worried that some guy is gonna start stalking TC and that will cause them to cancel the game out of fear for their own well being

[opaque sigil]

which is frankly kinda dystopian

[cerulean sable]

we already ahd cases of people visiting them and taking pics of their office

main sub moderators deleted it even

[opaque sigil]

like you can't make popular things and also not be terminally online

[cerulean sable]

but if it was in r/silksong i feel like they would celebrate that pic

[opaque sigil]

why would anybody make games if they had to do that shit

[cunning geode]

they should just release Hillow Knight II: Hell on Earth after 10 months of dev time

[heady iron]

I make unpopular things and am terminally online

[fleet temple]

iirc there was a post in r/silksong like that

[sacred stratus]

So glad I don’t have Reddit

[opaque sigil]

in no industry is it the norm that when you buy a product you're also buying a license to have access to information about the people who made it or what they're doing now

[sacred stratus]

I only use it for coding questions so I don’t need an account heh

[opaque sigil]

it's just such a bizarre presupposition

[cerulean sable]

a lot of it boils down to "you said it was ready why isnt it ready i want it now! cant find any other game" then they play the "i dont care anymore" stance like more as a protest that if only you did x and y, i woudlve bought your game, now look what youve done!!!

like bro what is this victim complex

[opaque sigil]

I mean in a sense it's not recognizing that the world is bigger than you

people assume that whenever something doesn't go how they want it it must be somebody's fault for deliberately delaying or harming them

[fleet temple]

I think deep down they know that the people saying they should just wait or find something else to do are correct, but that isn't a satisfying answer to them

[opaque sigil]

I mean at this point that's just what the community is

their way of performing for the ingroup is complaining and echoing the talking points

that's how they get upvotes and approval

[cerulean sable]

im meh with how TC did their comms personally but unless TC did something bad like overworked people or abused someone etc, why the fuck would i center like they just murdered someone just for not communicating?

this feels more of an issue with the fandom being too young and has nothing to do with their lives moment so they spend it hyperfocusing on a game

[cerulean sable]

thats the problem, these people has reached the point they THINK theyre the whole world

[sacred stratus]

Because these people are just doing that: finding something to do while waiting. That’s the wrong mentality. The correct mentality is living your life while waiting. Plenty of longer waits in life

[opaque sigil]

there is the irony in that vicious cycle of hyperfixation on the wait making the wait feel worse

[cerulean sable]

again pointing out my Hogwarts example, so many terminally online people are saying its gonna fail due to the controversy
and frankly i dont fucking care about the series at hole anymore + Rowling being Rowling

but like i always thought the notion that "its gonna fail" was moot because on average the fanbase isnt terminally online and is divorced from the online discourse, and theyll buy the game because "oh wow Harry Potter i love this series' setting and now I get to play as someone living in it?"

[fleet temple]

that's what I meant

[opaque sigil]

well shit like that also gets co-opted by bullshit culture war pundits

[cerulean sable]

same goes for HK, for every "i dont care" person anymore is a parent that sees a cute little bug game that theyll buy for their child that will replace them, the only losing side is them

[cunning geode]

guys can we all just, hug it out maybe

[sacred stratus]

The only people who were against that game weren’t gonna buy it in the first place so the “boycott” and “controversy” never did anything

[opaque sigil]

I doubt that

harry potter had a lot of fans who were very betrayed by how awful a person the creator turned out to be

[cerulean sable]

i would sooner disintegrate than parlay with r/silksong, but as long as they stay on their sub they can continue with their self destructive behaviour until middle school summer break is over

[opaque sigil]

it probably did affect sales, just not enough to make it not profitable

[cerulean sable]

but for what its worth, im just happy main sub is actually, ya know, moderated by competent people 🥴

besides this is an extreme case of terminal online itis

[opaque sigil]

it's a microcosm of radicalization just a relatively harmless one

[cerulean sable]

you reach an age where you realize how superfiscial this is once you have, ya know, actually important stuff to do

[opaque sigil]

it is definitely interesting to see the r/silksong pipeline

[heady iron]

I wouldn't say the devs are crying over a very positive score

[fleet temple]

and for every "This game is taking way too long" person there's a guy somewhere who hasn't thought about the game since it was first announced and will enjoy when it comes out

[cerulean sable]

just a relatively harmless one
thats the thing, i hope it stays that way

because the last thing i need is a turbo nerd crashing TC's office with people unironically cheering them for "giving what TC deserved"

something something deplatform them something

[opaque sigil]

I don't think the people there have the resources to do that which is basically the only reason it's not much more concerning

[cerulean sable]

Quit Having Fun . png

[opaque sigil]

it's a young audience they can't buy plane tickets to australia

[cerulean sable]

that wouldnt be case, if it wasnt for a couple of people planning on visiting to demand an answer from TC

[heady iron]

ME on the other hand...

[cerulean sable]

and one instance (albeit only one) of a guy taking a picture of their office

[heady iron]

one way ticket, I'm not coming back

[opaque sigil]

didn't that happen twice

[fleet temple]

and the ones that are in Australia don't have a liscence to drive to Adelaide yet

[cerulean sable]

but yeah overall i feel like 80% of r SS goes "TC wheres Silksong? Please you need to give the fandom a valid reasoning, what youre doing is selfish to your dedicated fans" in their imagination when they do theoretically meet them

Then go 180 to "Omg HI TC big fan of your game, when is it coming out though hope progress goes well :((( " if they do actually meet them

its like stockholm syndrome 🥴

[heady iron]

https://tenor.com/view/stupied-gif-7880698

[opaque sigil]

they might also have enough brain cells floating around to realize that screaming at them isn't going to help

though, well, many of them don't

[cerulean sable]

truest gif

[heady iron]

aw this gif doesn't have the part where the gate opens and the dogs walk away from each other

[inland ravine]

yo everyone

[cerulean sable]

i get though, this is not meant to sound belittling with the entire "im an adult and youre a dumb kid" type of comment
but i understand especially with today's online climate

[opaque sigil]

I mean it's not really just an age thing

[cerulean sable]

its very easy to get deep into this type of mentality when you dont have much to do with you free time

its less of an age thing and more of a free time thing

[opaque sigil]

adults get into way dumber insular communities with much dumber beliefs

[heady iron]

preach gurl

[opaque sigil]

and much more potential for harm ofc

[fleet temple]

Some people also just can't handle the idea that they don't have control over everything and sometimes just have to wait for something

[opaque sigil]

(insert image of the gallows outside the US capitol)

[cerulean sable]

when you have nothing to do at all its easier to find some kind of outlet which depending on what it is, can lead to radicalization, kinda like finding a purpose in life

something something, i think fight club has some kind of social commentary about this

[opaque sigil]

at least the silver lining is the r/silksong stuff has an end date

[cerulean sable]

i legit am going to bet

[heady iron]

this meme but the hotdog label is "bullying Team Cherry for not communicating"

[stark estuary]

Uh… Silksong coming out never 🤓

[opaque sigil]

just like the fe4 remake

[lament lotus]

do you guys think tc would kill r/silksong members if they had the chance

[stark estuary]

Nah that’s real

Switch 2 bet

[opaque sigil]

I mean it kinda has to be at this point

[cerulean sable]

that sub's most radicalized has 2 ways

1. they buy it anyway just to downplay it "oh well its not as good actually"
2. spend their time PSAing everyone not to buy but instead pirate not to support TC

eitherway its the same case as the TLOU2 subreddit

[fleet temple]

just like silksong

[cerulean sable]

TLOU2 isnt even about TLOU2, its just about people complaining about the game and created a cult like mentality around it

[opaque sigil]

yeah but at that point neither of those matter

and that's kind of the end of it

[cerulean sable]

ye

again unless TC did something actually heinous it wont really matter

im talking stuff like Moon studio and CP2077 levels of allegations

[stark estuary]

People pirating the game and saying it’s bad isn’t going to hurt the game’s sales

[opaque sigil]

I mean if they say it's bad and all they have to say is 'it took too long' then any sane consumer is going to look at them like they're crazy and move on

[fleet temple]

The only thing it's hurting is themselves

[stark estuary]

Well it doesn’t hurt anyone

[quartz cave]

hi chat hop on btd6

[opaque sigil]

it hurts themselves

[cerulean sable]

im not advocating for it but i have a feeling some guy with too much freetime and doesnt care really care about the game is going to have an easy time luring children into installing malware on the game's release 🥴

[opaque sigil]

like they are choosing to be miserable

[cerulean sable]

but like, thats kinda your issue if you take the risks

[opaque sigil]

children aren't going to be on r/silksong prior to playing the game

[quartz cave]

what a skill issue

whats the chat about

[stark estuary]

What

[hollow terrace]

I mean you worry but also like

its on gamepass

[opaque sigil]

another part of r/silksong being so insular means they can't really evangelize outside it

[quartz cave]

oh shit were talking about midsong midbye

[cerulean sable]

yeah they already got their fatstack from MS eitherway

like, they already got paid for the game

[opaque sigil]

whatever they say on that reddit the average person just won't see

and if somebody is looking to join a reddit to ask about the game they might just ask in r/hollowknight since that's the bigger one

[cerulean sable]

besides MS needs this W with the consistent amount of Ls theyve been raking 😎

[stark estuary]

If you mean malware is going to get distributed alongside pirated copies of the game I’m not sure that’s a real risk

[cerulean sable]

they carry these AAAs like trophies, yet in the end, theyll kneel to an Indie to save them (hyperbole)

[opaque sigil]

also I really just have no idea what happened there as far as I could tell it seemed like the narrative decisions that were made were made for a pretty clear reason and were very on theme

[cerulean sable]

when it comes to malware, its not about getting the 90%, its about those guillible enough in the 10%s

[opaque sigil]

maybe it's just a 'it's not the story I wanted it to tell' classic

[fleet temple]

If you spend 5+ years terminally online increasingly getting angry at 3 people for not releasing a game, going to the point of boycotting the game and saying mean shit about the devs and harassing anyone who's trying to tell you to move on, once the game comes out and turns out to be good, but because of all the time spent malding about it, you can no longer enjoy it the same way, you'll eventually stop and ask yourself what the point was.

[stark estuary]

Well that’s going to happen anyway

[cerulean sable]

theres thsi scene in johnwick

where hes like

admit it johnny ur addicted to the killing

it is no longer about Silksong

it is about THE WAIT for Silksnog

[opaque sigil]

I really don't think it's going to matter if redditors are yelling at people to pirate the game, I don't really see why that would persuade many people

[cerulean sable]

for it is all they have left 🥺

also it only takes a decently adjusted guy to see how stupid the reasoning is

[stark estuary]

That’s also not anything to do with the subreddit if I google silksong free download click the first link download a sketchy zip and run it that’s on me

[high hedge]

For you 5 years may not be much, but for the average waiter thats more than half their lifetime

[cerulean sable]

dont buy the game
why
cuz the devs outright harassed/abused/etc one of their devs
ok good enough reason for me not to support it

vs

dont buy the game
why
cuz the devs couldnt update us during the release
well the game is out, why do i still need updates
cuz they betrayed the fandom
how so
cuz they didnt release updates about the game
but the game is out so does it matter

[stark estuary]

I was -1 years old when HK released…

[high hedge]

You still need to incubate

Back in the oven

[opaque sigil]

the fact that people legitimately think these are in any way comparable is baffling

there's also the classic of taking credit for HK's success

[stark estuary]

I made TC what they are and this is how they repay me

[cerulean sable]

anyway, they stay inside, im happy man

but all in all i do agree i wish comms happened, not out of obligation but out of ya know good will
i mean even i am a dev i would be thankful and show my support for the fanbase

but ofc this also comes with the caveat of modern online fandoms being way too parasocial, so it might be something i wanna avoid
all in all itll boil down to integrity

give me a good game or not

[opaque sigil]

you joke but people say that unironically

[cerulean sable]

if its not them then its "the owe the backers"

[stark estuary]

It’s like that one kid who never listens to the teacher then tells them “my parents pay your salary” when they get told off

[cerulean sable]

its like virtue signalling

[high hedge]

Is that real

[opaque sigil]

not even

[high hedge]

Are there kids like that

[stark estuary]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

it's going to a restaraunt once then expecting the chef to send you constant updates on what they're cooking now

[cerulean sable]

it doesnt take too much time to know they do exist

[fleet temple]

let's not forget "people backed the first game which had one of the stretch goals as 2nd playable character which became ss therefore we require every single piece of info about it"
these people did not back hollow knight

[high hedge]

No but they should do that

If half an hour passes and I don’t hear from anyone I want to know if they’re just busy back there or what

[opaque sigil]

I don't think the interpretation of community interaction as a thermometer for goodwill is at all accurate to tc's approach and the fundamental lack of ability to comprehend that is a big factor in why people get so upset

[stark estuary]

The restaurant burned down five years ago.

[high hedge]

You can’t sixth sense me

The accident was just a bad dream

[opaque sigil]

the relationship the fans have with tc is not one that is based on actually interacting with them, it's them making products which we buy and enjoy

the way tc expresses their valuing that relationship is not by interacting with fans it's by making more games

and y'know not price gouging and shit

[heady iron]

Alright, I'll buy your game Team Cherry, but I'm not happy about it!

[high hedge]

I would prefer if they just released monthly updates for 10 years while never actually progressing game development

And had a patreon in the meantime

[heady iron]

The Yanderedev approach

[high hedge]

Exactly

[opaque sigil]

Thinking that communication = tc likes us and no communication = tc is tormenting us is tremendously naive and entirely projection

[stark estuary]

I was about to mention yanderedev but you beat me to it

[high hedge]

Next time

[stark estuary]

No

[opaque sigil]

There are plenty of devs who interact with supporters and emphatically do not resemble the paragons of being nice people seem to imagine

[stark estuary]

There is no next time

That was my only chance and it was stolen from me

My life is ruined

[grand ferry]

if if if if if...

[high hedge]

Most people aren’t so cognizant of the moment their lives went down the tubes

[heady iron]

Do you think TC, a close knit trio of white men, would ever make any sort of controversial remark to each other? I don't think so

[stark estuary]

That reminds me that there was this one HK lore YouTuber who called TC out for their colonialist views or some shit citing the Pale King as evidence

[opaque sigil]

ah that was funny

[stark estuary]

Most compelling PK bad argument

Shit was like half an hour of unhinged rambling

[hollow terrace]

I could see it

[opaque sigil]

I mean hey props for taking a swing even if it was in the wrong direction

[fleet temple]

honestly the only critiscism against TC in relation to ss I could maybe see as justifiable is how they handled the delay
which even then is such a minor thing it doesn't really matter

[ripe cliff]

TC is clearly in favor of absolute monarchies

[stark estuary]

Yeah but PK is a literal deity so he gets a pass

[hollow terrace]

turns out hot take opinions are hot takes

[stark estuary]

Most absolute monarchs only claim to be divine

[opaque sigil]

we don't really know enough about what their internal windows looked like to say much about the delay handling

[hollow terrace]

and viewed as wrong direction by fans

[stark estuary]

Did the King even do anything 💀

I don’t think he was a very active ruler

[fleet temple]

it's really just the fact that they didn't even retweet it from their main account
Like it would tak 2 seconds
I know it's not really that big of a deal I just think about it sometimes

[opaque sigil]

anybody who was deep enough to know about the window was deep enough to see the leth tweet

the window was never posted on the main account posting the delay there would've caused more confusion than anything else

[stark estuary]

“This game you didn’t know had a release window no longer has a release window”

[hollow terrace]

killed children

[stark estuary]

Real

[opaque sigil]

the leth tweet didn't even invoke the window so it would've been even more out of left field

and you can easily look at how things turned out

that information disseminated along the same paths the window did in the first place

[stark estuary]

TC were presumably never fully committed to that window, at least not to the point where they’d confidently post about it on their main

[opaque sigil]

well yeah

those sorts of events generally work like that

[stark estuary]

Yeah

[olive bobcat]

I'm now caught up to One Piece's anime

Took about 1 year

[fleet temple]

they were also probably deep enough to know about fangamer merch but they still retweeted that
Ok I'm not gonna argue about this I really don't think we have an answer I'll just leave it at that

[olive bobcat]

@manic abyss

[opaque sigil]

they retweeted the merch because they wanted it to reach a larger audience

the delay didn't need to for reasons I already explained

it's not that complicated

[olive bobcat]

What's the argument about

[hollow terrace]

You should release merch

[opaque sigil]

I have too many fans the stock wouldn't last

[olive bobcat]

I will release my own merch line

[opaque sigil]

it would be a bloodbath I don't want that on my conscience 😔

[inland ravine]

falls from the sky

[fleet temple]

I just think retweeting it to your larger audience would do literally no harm

[opaque sigil]

it would serve no purpose

other than to confuse people

so why do it

[inland ravine]

where did window go

[fleet temple]

You can't know for sure that literally everybody who saw the release window also saw the delay tweet

[sacred stratus]

gwnj :D

[opaque sigil]

having been around at the time I can be reasonably confident that enough people did

[inland ravine]

frosty :D

[fleet temple]

Sure, it would confuse some people, they'll get over it

[sacred stratus]

[opaque sigil]

anybody who was following the game enough to know about xbox reply tweeting some rando heard about leth tweeting

you're trying to invent some flaw in an approach that demonstrably worked fine

[fleet temple]

Having been there at the time I recall some people coming in a few months later who didn't know it was delayed and assumed Xbox just lied (which tbf they kinda did but we didn't know that at the time)

[opaque sigil]

xbox didn't lie

and there were really not many people like that and if people weren't checking up by the channels they usually use they would not have seen tc's tweet either

the only reason they would know about the xbox reply tweet to a rando and not the leth tweet is if they were just not paying attention at all

in which case tc tweeting would not have done anything more

[sacred stratus]

even if I don't like it I will trust Leth with his decisions as he is a man working in the industry and I'm not. I don't have the info he has so I can't say I would have made a better decision

[fleet temple]

I guess you're right

[opaque lake]

yeah, xbox wasn't lying, the game was just later delayed further

[fleet temple]

I think either approach is fine, the only reason it confused me was because I personally wouldn't do that if I were in that situation
But TC aren't me, so I suppose they probably just thought the other way was better
Anyway it's not worth arguing over

[midnight trout]

chat radahn is slaughtering me

[sacred stratus]

don't spoiler for others please

[midnight trout]

no im talking about in the base game

i havent started the dlc yet

[sacred stratus]

ah ok then

my bad heh

[midnight trout]

all g

[unborn dome]

get good

[hollow terrace]

Yall

Just

[midnight trout]

dont read this frosty ||it is the dlc im just covering up my mistakes||

[olive bobcat]

Chat I'm cooked

I need to buy another gear 5 figure

[midnight trout]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-luffy-gear-5-luffy-gear-5-white-luffy-gear-5-moon-gear-5-gif-13839016206611534263

[hollow terrace]

You didn’t cover it correctly

[unborn dome]

if that’s the case try parrying

[midnight trout]

uhhhhhhhhhh

i hate those stupid ||winter lantern lookin dudes and parrying||

so ill suck at it with ||radahn too||

[unborn dome]

parrying him is easier

use buckler and parry right when you see the swords move

3 perfect parries staggers him

stay close to him when he’s doing melee attacks in phase two

don’t get greedy

[midnight trout]

ok

[cerulean sable]

you run to hallownest when you a need a few geo man
youre not a monarchy youre a fucking colonizer

man i missed the entire PK debacle

[midnight trout]

i will give you a cookie and $3 for the devbuild

$3 aud

[cerulean sable]

i can give this ratio for free instead

[midnight trout]

sure

🤝

good deal

[lament lotus]

does the figure float also

[midnight trout]

yes

[olive bobcat]

Yeah

It's new tech

[midnight trout]

built in antigravity

[olive bobcat]

Has to do with the AC

[opaque sigil]

is that that new?

I thought it had been around for a while

[lament lotus]

awesome

[cerulean sable]

assins acreen shoyuld have asasult rifles and us marines

oh wait thats just tom clancy games

also random and i just wanted to rant about how much i fucking hate the overdesigned military aesthetic garbo Ubisoft games tends to do, it just screams 12 year old i dunno

[warped rock]

the chinese hotel im at has anticipated my group's arrival and they made us food, i think they tried cooking american food?

the first one is pringles with icing and sprinkles, the second is jumbo shrinp with a strange wasabi and mustard mix with sprinkles and the third... i have no idea

there was a lot of people who worked for the hotel who were just standing around too... pretty creepy

[shell yacht]

is that meat in the "sallad"?

[warped rock]

i think its spam or some other processed meat, with boiled broccoli

i wasnt brave enough to try it

[shell yacht]

no in the leafy lookin bin, oh wait that the brocoli, my eyes are tired

[grand ferry]

what they doin to the broccoli

[warped rock]

in the second pic im 90% sure those are peanuts on the "salad"

or garlic

[grand ferry]

rice noodle look okay

[barren sequoia]

The shrimp looks delicious

[warped rock]

they had mustard and wasabi mix on them with sprinkles though

and they taste super cheap

[barren sequoia]

Sprinkles sounds awful but mustard wasabi sounds good

I fucking love mustard

[wheat sail]

I'm droolin like a freak I'm lickin my lips rn

[fierce sparrow]

hello im new hru guys

[wheat sail]

Yo

[grand ferry]

ur early

[lament lotus]

what the sigma

the shrimp aint that good

[charred surge]

tfw when you write up the recipe for sprinkled mustard shrimp

[manic abyss]

The anime or the manga?

[opaque sigil]

[high hedge]

How would you react if your tiny robot pal went, “Bweeee-ooooop…”

https://tenor.com/view/gravebot-happy-robot-mr-bot-robot-dance-toy-gif-13607119

They look like this

[fierce sparrow]

first of all, hey! im new, obv

and second,

[opaque sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-violence-earthmover-gif-9147879473446682423

[fierce sparrow]

when did they start workin on silk song?

[cerulean sable]

use one of these babies at it https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Pulse_Gun_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)

they half worked on it as early as 2018

conceptualized at 2017
half worked at 2018
full forced by 2019

[opaque sigil]

godmaster came out in mid 2018 I don't know why you'd start counting before that

[high hedge]

:(

Why

[opaque sigil]

well idk why you'd count at all

[cerulean sable]

hence halfworked

honestly at most im expecting it to be a couple of spritework etc

but mostly brainstorming for ideas

[fierce sparrow]

...does silk song have a relese date?

[high hedge]

No

But usually I say yes

[fierce sparrow]

and sorry if i came in randomly

[cerulean sable]

but the demo weve seen is probably cooked for around 6 months

[high hedge]

It’s okay

[cerulean sable]

there is no need to appologize

[high hedge]

I forgive you

[cerulean sable]

but no we do not have a release date

[fierce sparrow]

thank you

and ah man

its been so long

[cerulean sable]

the closest we had is 2022 during the xbox thing

but from Leth's word, it was more like a soft "well try" date

[high hedge]

At least they released a teaser trailer for the upcoming Hellboy film

[opaque sigil]

I imagine it was mostly that, especially since godmaster didn't really get finished fully

[fierce sparrow]

hmm

theyre gonna cook i know it

[high hedge]

Yeah for sure

I believe they have been delayed due to rewriting the Hornet x Lace wedding ending

[opaque sigil]

true

[fierce sparrow]

wait really?!

i knew it!!!

[high hedge]

Yes I really believe that

[cerulean sable]

the gist is the convo was like
Xbox: So uhh guys, you think you can release within the year?
TC: Well, we hope so, i mean as developers were always trying to get it finished but we have no set date
Xbox: But do you think 12 months is realistic?
TC: Maybe?
Xbox: Alr, SILKSONG WILL BE RELEASED WITHIN 12 MONTHS YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS

[opaque sigil]

but does silksong have a class system

[fierce sparrow]

thats so cute

[high hedge]

Yes and the social hierarchy is FIERCE

[young saffron]

Yes and I'm at the top

[high hedge]

You journey to the top by becoming an aristocrat

[opaque sigil]

full metal jaguar crest boutta pop off

[fierce sparrow]

we just have to keep supporting them they are absoluetly cooking, screw "fans" who yelled at tc to hurry up

[high hedge]

You have a good attitude

[cerulean sable]

honestly if i was doing a project that i had i just kept adding on, and you told me 3 years into dev "if you think you can finish it within the year", in hindsight it would be easy to give a maybe, but development without deadlines isnt perfect so delays can happen (which did happen in TC's case)

[fierce sparrow]

thanks you both are very nice

[cerulean sable]

really, it was probably a half assed confirmation with Xbox, and its not like it was the only Xbox game that got delayed

[fierce sparrow]

yeah.

[young saffron]

They are adding in more swamp areas as a giant fuck you to the fans that complained

[opaque sigil]

those events tend not to be actually decisive but the xbox twitter has every reason to play it up

[high hedge]

I think like two others were right?

[cerulean sable]

yeah

honestly i still blame xbox lmao

come to think about it

[opaque sigil]

I'm not sure blame is an applicable concept

[cerulean sable]

the devs probably gave a maybe and they just gunned them so it became a soft release date for all of them

[fierce sparrow]

i cannot even remember the last time i saw a silk song teaser, but i remember it being so good and vibrant

[high hedge]

Did TC have to agree to be lumped in with the others

[fierce sparrow]

[cerulean sable]

Leth said Xbox talked to them prior to it

they probably didnt have any control on the announcement

[opaque sigil]

I mean maybe tc also just didn't read the fine print

we don't know

[cerulean sable]

thats another guess i have