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zinc sky
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I don't think silksong is real

buoyant plume
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Lemme ask my sources

zinc sky
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but silksong is coming

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I need silksong

buoyant plume
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Apparently, not yet

zinc sky
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team cherry is in australia

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Australia isn't real

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team cherry isn't real

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silksong isn't real

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give me silksong

buoyant plume
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Take a chill pill Phil

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Use proper Capitalization or improper capitalization

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Not both inconsistently

blissful trench
buoyant plume
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Does that mean the Earth has no bottom

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Chat… ||CRINGE||

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Is South America real?

coral prawn
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No

sage glade
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hold it

wheat sail
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Bra zil

sage glade
wheat sail
cerulean sable
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do you think silksong shoudl have incredibly accurate anatomy damage tracking

empty plover
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atleast there is an active chat

cerulean sable
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like dwrf fortress

empty plover
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im fine with the white slash

cerulean sable
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where you can hit someone say, in chest with a sword and it will track everything down from tissue, fat, muscle, sinew, nerve etc damage

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ofc not visually

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but think about it this way, it will just pop up a "MUSCLE TISSUE - DAMAGE" and reduces the enemy's attack speed by 8%

empty plover
cerulean sable
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thats what gamers THINK they dont need

wheat sail
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I do :)

empty plover
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and studying

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and all of that fucking shit

cerulean sable
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hey we joke but unironically sometimes micromanagement aspects like these are a big draw to a lot of games

wheat sail
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Some of the best fiction have basis in reality

cerulean sable
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hell sometimes i love needing to deal with logistics

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down from ammo type on each individual unit

empty plover
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anyways

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i hope silksong releases before gta 6

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because everybody will ignore anything and just play the game

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(which tbh is kinda lame considering the gta series has nothing original)

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i'd love a big ass metroidvania when the main character uses a needle to attack and an occasional spaghetti attack

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that sounds way cooler than

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rob bank

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steal car

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rob money

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commit genocide

cerulean sable
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i think the fandom overlap is like, anything less of a 1/14th of a slice

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if anything the only thing GTA will overtake is online relevancy but HK will always have its own popularity sphere

empty plover
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no

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silksong cool

odd tree
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Skong

empty plover
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also i dont know why people be hyped up for gta 6

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best case scenario its a higher graphics gta 5

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with a couple more gun shops

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and a more racist main character

odd tree
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No ps5

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And my pc ain't running allat

cerulean sable
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i mean

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you can argue the same for Silksong for these people

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"it just looks like a cartoonish 2d platformer why are people so hyped about it"

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different tastes and perspectives

empty plover
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true i guess

odd tree
empty plover
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but these people probably dont know what hollow knight is

odd tree
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If it's just gta with better graphic

odd tree
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Gameplay wise

cerulean sable
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and its the same reason why people still buy the Far Cry games despite the online community saying its the same thing:
simply put the average player will buy the game and play it casually, theyre not gonna go to 2 hour essays about complaning about the lack of innovation or wtv

theyll buy the game because its a nice game to play after a 9 hour long working hour and turn your brain off to shooting stuff

empty plover
cerulean sable
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also tbf Silksong is visually way better than HK

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like theres just so much extra detail

odd tree
cerulean sable
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HK bush shading vs Silksong shading

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look at that blade of grass too

empty plover
cerulean sable
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weve compared them way before

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because weve been cross comparing screenshots a few years back then

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and saw graphical differences from the Silksong trailer vs the Xbox screenshots

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also the bg as well on the 2 images

odd tree
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I'm always skongyped

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Even when i'm 99 years old

cerulean sable
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HK uses a lot of dark black spaces to hide rushed artworked (to quote TC)

empty plover
cerulean sable
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whereas so far most of the Silksong screenshots dont use that much black empty spacing

odd tree
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I will keep living until skong is out

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I will do anything

empty plover
odd tree
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I will sacrifice my family to keep living to see skong

empty plover
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metroidvanias need brain power

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because you have to figure out where to go next

odd tree
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I don't care

cerulean sable
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like i said, they used a lot of dark bgs in the original game to 1. hide rushed bg artwork 2. allows them to work faster by reusing assets

odd tree
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As long as i live to see skong, my life's purpose is complete

empty plover
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NOO

odd tree
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Conplete

empty plover
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we want silksong news

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leth

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!!!

full rune
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Who's we

empty plover
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people dont want silksong news?

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well fuck

dapper topaz
olive bobcat
cerulean sable
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its easy to forget that the first game was rushed by their own words and they explained how stuff like level art could done quickly by cutting corners to say with the afformentioned use of empty black BG spaces

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Silksong is just way more lush in comparison

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those leaves has way better shading than what youd see in Hollow Knight

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in comparison to Greenpath

sage glade
cerulean sable
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yeah but i guess its harder to do shading on moving characters

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though

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Seth kinda has some level of shading to him

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though its probably just encoding artifacts?

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like you can see the cloth below his neck has darker undertones as shadows

indigo current
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Guys was there anything at nintendo direct?

cerulean sable
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from what im getting the larger enemies tends to have some decent shading, then again that was on Edge vs 2022 footage

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and its probably easier to not notice flatter colors on smaller enemies

south vigil
indigo current
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🥶🥶

toxic lily
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We had gameplay of metroid 4 and a year (2025)

flat remnant
wary storm
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but it all wasnt about silksong, but anyway we had something

neon adder
# cerulean sable

Why does that bug have a Falconeer’s Mask on
Is he being controlled by someone

cerulean sable
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probably

charred surge
cerulean sable
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its a Moorwing apparently

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its probably a massive evolved dust roach that was tamed

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its not a fake character

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its literally from Edge

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i cant believe i started all of them with "its"

sage glade
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although i know how you could confuse it cause the fan ocs look like that

cerulean sable
charred surge
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So I was just here thinking it was one of aluo’s or sumn’s devious tricks when it was real-ass official-ass stuff??

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Pasta fazool,,, I am a fool,,,

torpid orchid
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random question. Which bug do you want to see in silksong? I want a dragonfly.

charred surge
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All of them

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Jokes aside it would be neat to see some bugs that may be more niche relative to what bug characters might be popular elsewhere

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But really, bug is bug

neon adder
idle scaffold
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came out end of december 2020 i believe

cedar radish
shell tartan
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I can't wait for Silksong feelspkman

cedar radish
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Silksong won't come

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wake up

shell tartan
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It will

granite valley
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WAKE UP

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WAKE UP

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YOU'VE BEEN IN A COMA FOR 8 YEARS, WAKE UP

shell tartan
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It releases this year or next year like

granite valley
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gorbbrain WAKE UP, BY THE POWER OF GORB

shell tartan
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._.

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Listen, the jokes about Silksong aren't funny anymore

charred surge
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But you know what is funny? This. You may now sustain severe damage to your diaphragm and general internal bleeding due to the pure comedy contained in this image.

uncut citrus
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Small

hidden fable
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if silksong shadow drops i will jump into a kfc deep frier

zinc sky
hidden fable
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i will silksong so hard

formal karma
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Good thing they won't shadow drop it then

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On that note however- 358 days until the end of newsless year 4

sick jackal
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never forget

formal karma
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I'm fine with it- I just wish we heard anything in the last 2 years

flat remnant
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you will never hear anything again gun1

lament coyote
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If we don't hear anything this month then silksong is fucking gone

sick jackal
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Eh it's probably just a victim of scope creep. They have no deadline, no one's forcing them to release the game, so they probably keep adding things, making the scope bigger each time

formal karma
lone lichen
formal karma
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Just as stupid then as it is now

wary storm
flat remnant
pine valve
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yay france

lament lotus
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anywhere except paris

young saffron
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YALL WHAY THE FUCK

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I PUT A SUCTION TOY ON MY HEAD AND THIS MARK IS THERE

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I HAVE FUCKING CLASS fleacrying fleacrying

grand ferry
jade canopy
young saffron
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It was on for like 10 seconds

hazy summit
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Hello gays

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(Guys)

copper dagger
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Hello

indigo mason
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Hi

hazy summit
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How are you? In terms of cope and hope

indigo mason
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I'm doing alright honestly - thinking abt how good this game will be when it releasee

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I'm not salty abt it not being at showcases lol, the silkcope is all fun for me

copper dagger
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I have hope... But the Nintendo direct

compact hare
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It's gonna release soon!

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Soon! soon!

copper dagger
indigo mason
copper dagger
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Silksong will release tomorrow

compact hare
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definitely!

copper dagger
indigo mason
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My last thread of cope is the Pipsqueak comment - if they have the time to do something like that they have to be wrapping up Dev time 🤡

full ledge
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True team cherry works 24/7 and has no free time

high hedge
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Sleeping is time not spent silking

indigo mason
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Obviously not 24/7 work - I understand they have their own lives and that, I just also find it weird that they've been basically silent bar the occasional real life interaction and now they just randomly appear to support a fellow indie Dev (which is based btw, I'm not hating them for that)

copper dagger
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Something strange is that they said Silksong was releasing last year... But nothing happened

compact hare
indigo mason
full ledge
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The only thing team cherrys done that actually annoyed me was wait so long to announce the delay

silk zodiac
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Any songers in chat

copper dagger
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There are so many clowns in the Internet (I'm at my limit)

indigo mason
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Truee

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I still believe that dream I had

compact hare
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Don't worry guys

copper dagger
compact hare
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it will come out tommorow

indigo mason
copper dagger
compact hare
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Tomorrow will be the day Ari Gabson descends from the heaven and present to us the release date

copper dagger
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The fact is that yesterday they showed us as clowns

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At the Nintendo direct

heavy mason
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Hmm

copper dagger
heavy mason
gray owl
hazy summit
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Tomorrow the day eat hamburger

indigo mason
full ledge
hazy summit
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Metroid was there

full ledge
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Mario and Luigi

indigo mason
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It was !! I really wanna get mario and luigi

full ledge
indigo mason
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But I'm waiting for new console because it will obvs be cross gen

gray owl
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i may buy a switch for m&l

wild plinth
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That direct made me wish i had a switch

full ledge
indigo mason
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I'm not buying any more first party Nintendo games until switch 2 drop

full ledge
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I loved dkcr on my Wii

coral prawn
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Dk troplical freeze is the goat

high hedge
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The wait is over

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Nevermind…

full ledge
indigo mason
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Switch was actually my first Nintendo console lol, I live in a no Nintendo household

copper dagger
coral prawn
full ledge
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Before and after IPS screen mod

hazy summit
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Wow

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So...much better

full ledge
jade canopy
gray owl
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i remember the fuckin gameboy color

full ledge
gray owl
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yeah i got worried cause ik the wii is technically retro gaming

hazy summit
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R u this old?
Ps4 image*

gray owl
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fair enough

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but like i know there are people that do not know what a DS is

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so it's not impossible that some people would make this kind of meme unironically 😭

hazy summit
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The same people who don't know it?

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Oh wait nvm

gray owl
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i may be stupid

coral prawn
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I am stupidhollowcool

hazy summit
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xd

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Me too

gray owl
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We all believe in silksong here, we're all stupid

coral prawn
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We? whos we?

gray owl
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me and my cat

lament coyote
hazy summit
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I believe in silksong but i don't believe it will come out this year

gray owl
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I think silksong will come out when i get a 2nd hollow knight tattoo

hazy summit
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Just waiting for the announcement at TGA
Hope it happens

gray owl
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i think TC will drop news themselves tbh

hazy summit
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Yeah that too

coral prawn
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that is what they said

wild plinth
gray owl
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yea

copper dagger
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But what If GTA VI releases at the same time as Silksong?

gray owl
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so i dont think it'll be at TGA or ND

jade canopy
hazy summit
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The thing about tc droppinn the news themselves is that we don't have any expectations about it
It could happen anytime

gray owl
jade canopy
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But there are other stuff than silksong discussion

full ledge
gray owl
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so you're saying it will be tomorrow

compact hare
lament coyote
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i meant the server in general because people seem to perceive mods not as just normal chatters

elfin eagle
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Just admit people need to start pressing team cherry

hazy summit
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It could be tomorrow
It could be in december
It could be yesterday

wary storm
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well, what videogame presentation is going next?

gray owl
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i'd rather wait for them to be a great video game than a rushed one that lacks in some aspects

wild plinth
elfin eagle
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Then stop spaming silksong in every game event

jade canopy
hazy summit
wary storm
gray owl
lament coyote
full ledge
gray owl
elfin eagle
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Vocal minority my ass. Silksong is TT everytime a game event is close

wary storm
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i do that for fun, and cheering, not because i want teamcherry to put their product as fast as possible

full ledge
lament coyote
wary storm
full ledge
gray owl
wary storm
full ledge
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A lot of my favorite games are triple A and lot of my favorite games are indies

tawdry trail
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Peppino spaghetti from hit game pizza tower was confirmed by an anonymous data leaker to be a boss in silksong

full ledge
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You just need to play the good ones

lament coyote
gray owl
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Is Baldur's Gate AAA /genq ?

full ledge
lament coyote
opaque sigil
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aaas in general are way better than indies you just only see the best indies

gray owl
opaque sigil
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nobody hears about indie flops they just die quietly

lament coyote
gray owl
opaque sigil
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yeah

lament coyote
magic narwhal
gray owl
elfin eagle
wary storm
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well thats becasue indies are easier to make, and a lot of bad creators start making their products, copying other talented ones

opaque sigil
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aaas also have bigger marketing campaigns

magic narwhal
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If an indie that was backed by thousands of people flops, people are gonna talk about it

opaque sigil
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indies depend on being good to get the word of mouth (not that that isn't also a gamble)

magic narwhal
gray owl
magic narwhal
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Kickstarter campaigns can get huge

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HK is a fantastic example of that

lament coyote
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crowsworn

worn spruce
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indies are easier to make??

full ledge
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When a big game is bad everyone hears about it when a game no one’s ever heard of is bad no one’s gonna hear of it

gray owl
brittle garnet
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HK's kickstarter was actually pretty small

lament coyote
magic narwhal
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People are a lot more willing to be risky with indies

gray owl
brittle garnet
gray owl
full ledge
brittle garnet
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and of course it's true AAAs have bigger marketing campaigns what

magic narwhal
full ledge
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Not really

brittle garnet
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it has 2000 backers

gray owl
full ledge
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Didn’t meet all its goals even

wary storm
brittle garnet
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yeah it earned like 60k AU

worn spruce
wary storm
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when AAA games are huge but plain, because taking risks isnt cool for investing

opaque sigil
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indie games are different to make I wouldn't necessarily say easier

brittle garnet
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crowsworn was huge, it has 10 times the backers that hollow knight had

gray owl
full ledge
opaque sigil
magic narwhal
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I don't think something with the technical complexity of like Celeste was particularly easy to make

worn spruce
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indie devs have different problems to aaas

full ledge
magic narwhal
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Like you can still have complex indies, team size only really effects time for the more dedicated teams ngl

wary storm
brittle garnet
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i mean easier in the sense that you have a smaller scope and don't need millions of dollars of budget

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
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of course, but on average

magic narwhal
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It depends on the scope of your project and what you do with that

wary storm
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imagine doing like vampire survivors clone, is it easier than making even shittiest open-world AAA game?

brittle garnet
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it's harder to make a good game

wary storm
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i think yes

brittle garnet
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of course

lament coyote
magic narwhal
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Effort obviously is gonna be required whether or not you're an indie or a triple A

wary storm
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to make good game you dont need a lot of money, you need sum like this - idea, 2$ and tomato juice

brittle garnet
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yeah but the reality is that the average AAA is better than the average Indie, even if more and more very good indies are coming out

wary storm
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yep

magic narwhal
brittle garnet
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just because there is a tidal wave of bad indies that nobody plays and that die in obscurity

wary storm
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people misses BAD indies, and i mean trash-bad

magic narwhal
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You also have to think about quantity vs quality

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How many actual triple A releases do you see a year vs indies?

brittle garnet
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yes, but my statement was about the average, and remains correct

worn spruce
magic narwhal
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If we compare on a completely equal data set, I think you'd find it's actually kinda even

wary storm
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like just google vampire survivors clones, all that hollow knight clones, hades clones, ALLL this stuff you miss

high hedge
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This is known

magic narwhal
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The more a triple A studio goes on the more they adopt that cash grab mindset some early indie devs may have

wary storm
high hedge
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Simply just play the cool indies

brittle garnet
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the cash grab mindset is a simple reality of publicly traded companies needing to generate shareholder profit

high hedge
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Then you’ll at least save money

magic narwhal
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Meanwhile if an indie adopts this mindset even after being established they're more likely to go bankrupt so it usually works in reverse

brittle garnet
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now i'm not saying it's a good thing

opaque sigil
magic narwhal
wary storm
brittle garnet
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sure, but also AAAs cater to a much much much more casual audience

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who don't care about quality nearly as much

opaque sigil
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idk about more casual but definitely a broader one

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depends on what you mean by casual ig

magic narwhal
brittle garnet
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really?

magic narwhal
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Something like the Souls series for example is never gonna compromise on difficulty

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Again, it varies

brittle garnet
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souls isn't exactly tripleA

magic narwhal
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It is now

wary storm
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and i will type silksong every indie world, every nintendo something, every eggsbox presentation

magic narwhal
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I would argue it has been since Bloodborne

high hedge
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Egg carton

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Aloha Frosty

brittle garnet
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fromsoft is also an outlier

magic narwhal
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Let's talk about Santa Monica then

brittle garnet
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you can't cherrypick ONE example and say that MOST companies work that way

worn spruce
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yeah elden ring for example is way easier in terms of how easily you can get op and also you have summons and stuff

magic narwhal
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GoW also won't compromise much in the way of difficulty

brittle garnet
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two examples

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awesome

sacred stratus
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Ngl souls especially DS1 were not that difficult yes there were some nasty sections and traps but I feel like it’s just a game that isn’t afraid to kill the player and isn’t afraid of players having to learn over multiple attempts

opaque sigil
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arch wasn't talking about difficulty

high hedge
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They said a lot not most tbf

magic narwhal
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I can name more if you wanna hyperfixate lmfao

brittle garnet
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yeah i wasn't talking about difficulty

wary storm
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ds1 >>>> elder ring

sacred stratus
magic narwhal
opaque sigil
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arch was talking about broad audience appeal

manic abyss
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🐓

magic narwhal
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If something has a skill requirement, it is less casual by design

opaque sigil
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you can do that with a difficult game especially if you can effectively advertise it as that

magic narwhal
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Monster Hunter as well will not compromise on this

brittle garnet
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casual means the way people approach playing games

magic narwhal
wary storm
peak phoenix
brittle garnet
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most people who play games only play a couple games a year and don't care about "the gaming community" "the market" or indie games, most of them don't even know any indie games except the ones that are marketed at the front store page

magic narwhal
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Usually yes

brittle garnet
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nuh uh

gray owl
brittle garnet
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a casual gamer is a person who is not highly invested in games

wary storm
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i like how game just humiliates player with unfair stuff, like "oh bro you took this weapon to this small pipe-like room? sorry you cant hit anymore bye"

brittle garnet
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applying the word casual to game difficulty is slang

peak phoenix
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Souls like games have a reputation of being difficult when in reality it's just a fast pace algorithm. Dodge here, Dodge there, study the movements, dodge again, counter and base all attacks on their movements

magic narwhal
worn spruce
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yeah

wary storm
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and you can just change your weapon, because some of them are better at +0 than your +3 stick

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in elder ring there is no situations like that, and this suck

magic narwhal
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Which makes it a non-casual experience

magic narwhal
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Not really

brittle garnet
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shut the fuck up holy shit

wary storm
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i feel like im playing just plain version of ds

opaque sigil
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people casually play things like cod which take constant skill maintenance to not fall behind

brittle garnet
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it's irrelevant to the point i was making

magic narwhal
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Bro getting heated over a basic conversation smh

brittle garnet
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because you're being insufferable

magic narwhal
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I'm stating points my guy

brittle garnet
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it almost seems like you're misunderstanding the argument on purpose

wary storm
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default eldest ring fan tbh

tropic arch
magic narwhal
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Not really, you're just kinda focusing on one aspect of a discussion you tried to start in the first place

brittle garnet
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anyway, i was saying that the average person who plays games does not care about indie games

opaque sigil
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you misunderstood their point
they corrected you
you ignored the correction

wary storm
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regional indicator y

magic narwhal
brittle garnet
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it's statistics...?

magic narwhal
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What stats? Just marketing visibility?

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That's a really shallow way of figuring out how people find out about games

opaque sigil
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the comparative sales demonstrate that aaas have a larger audience

brittle garnet
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sales

wary storm
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dirtblyockmyyice

opaque sigil
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that's not even close to in question

hazy summit
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Everyone has played at least one indie Game in their lives
Unless they only play FIFA or smth

magic narwhal
tropic arch
wary storm
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ICE CREAM

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stop

hazy summit
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Dont spam

tropic arch
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WORLD CAULK

opaque sigil
wary storm
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hades 2 suck

brittle garnet
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most people play mostly AAA games, and only breakout indie hits

grand ferry
tall cargo
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stardew valley menitoned!! i loove starudwe valeyu

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
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people who actually seek out indie games to play are a minority, people who talk online about games are a minority

hazy summit
tall cargo
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what

hazy summit
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what what

sacred stratus
nimble radish
brittle garnet
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most people who play games also only play mobile games but eh....

sacred stratus
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Gadayum an actual interesting debate about games. What a fun watch

high hedge
worn spruce
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true

brittle garnet
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i think that statistic is shifting downwards

opaque sigil
opaque sigil
hazy summit
brittle garnet
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yeah i suppose

magic narwhal
sacred stratus
high hedge
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More big indies getting mobile ports

opaque sigil
wary storm
nimble radish
high hedge
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Yep

hazy summit
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Mobile ports are ugly most of the time

magic narwhal
brittle garnet
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it's just to illustrate the point that most people don't care about indie games and don't really look into them, and just play the games that are on front store pages or that are advertised online, and those are overwhelmingly tripleA's

opaque sigil
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consoles and gaming pcs are luxuries, everyone has a phone

nimble radish
hazy summit
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Why head shakin

brittle garnet
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so yes, to come back to the original point, AAAs have bigger outreach and more marketing

wary storm
high hedge
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Hm

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that's drea

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hazy summit
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Drea

magic narwhal
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The mobile gamers don't usually wanna spend any money at all on games

wary storm
magic narwhal
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Unless they're whales

hazy summit
high hedge
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Mobile gaming has a really high market cap

brittle garnet
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brittle garnet
magic narwhal
wary storm
opaque sigil
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the bigger budget is the path to the larger audience, if it wasn't then they wouldn't do it

brittle garnet
magic narwhal
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You just have a smaller number of really big spenders there usually

nimble radish
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it's sturgeons law I was thinking of

high hedge
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Fish law

heady iron
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I need to roll my anime waifu

magic narwhal
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Mobile games have such big an appeal because there is 0 bar for entry

brittle garnet
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it'a not people who barely sneeze at a game

opaque sigil
magic narwhal
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And that is because a lot of them are free

brittle garnet
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that's also just something you said

high hedge
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I'm sorry I used an expression to discuss people who buy games but don't really play them....?

high hedge
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wary storm
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?av

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magic narwhal
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Or pick up a game and drop it almost immediately?

wary storm
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holy skibidi this works

brittle garnet
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i'm not talking about people who buy games and don't really play them

magic narwhal
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Okay so

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What even is your data

brittle garnet
magic narwhal
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We have moved the goalpost so much you just have a grey blob now

opaque sigil
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probably more people buy and don't play indies than aaas

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lower barrier to entry

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less commitment

nimble radish
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what, because the games are cheaper

opaque sigil
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yeah

magic narwhal
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So you drop it

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This happens with anything, not just indies

marble epoch
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# brittle garnet ???

You've decided we're now not just talking about anyone who has bought the game, cool but the data you're citing does not reflect that

brittle garnet
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we're still talking about this

opaque sigil
magic narwhal
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But in terms of....actual marketing no I still stand by this you can get indies that are talked about a lot which end of the day is the point of marketing

brittle garnet
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you can get indies that are talked about a lot.... But that does not mean aaas don't have bigger marketing campaigns

magic narwhal
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Is it easier for a triple A to buy like basic ad space sure, but honestly you know how many people use ad blocker?

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People do not care about those kinds of ads

runic atlas
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Like

opaque sigil
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it is true

brittle garnet
runic atlas
high hedge
runic atlas
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Especially people who aren't chronically online and find out about games that way

magic narwhal
brittle garnet
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I feel like you're projecting your own experience onto everyone

brittle garnet
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and assuming that everyone feels like you do on the topic

opaque sigil
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sgf in 2023 had more views than the fucking super bowl and that's literally an ad show catering to aaa titles primarily

high hedge
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Really?

runic atlas
magic narwhal
high hedge
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I guess that makes sense

runic atlas
brittle garnet
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you can say "not really" all you want but it's showing in what you say

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AAAs have bitter marketing campaigns because they have millions of dollars to spend. Companies have sales goals to meet. It's not exactly rocket science, but if you frequent certain communities you'll see ads for the indie games you may be interested in based on topic alone. This may seem like bigger marketing campaigns

magic narwhal
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Something with a big following will garner attention, it's not because people want ads

runic atlas
magic narwhal
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It's because people want news on a project they have investment in

brittle garnet
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the point of ads isn't that people want them

magic narwhal
peak phoenix
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The point of ads is to draw in people that may be interested in the sale

runic atlas
magic narwhal
brittle garnet
runic atlas
magic narwhal
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So, yeah the bulk of ads people don't give a shit about

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If we're ignoring those instances now

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Banner ads alone rarely win people over

brittle garnet
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i'm not ignoring those instances, i'm saying that your view on what is most common is not reflected in reality, thus leading me to say you're projecting

runic atlas
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I remember when I was a kid, there was basically no internet. Waiting for the next Pokemon games consisted of schoolyard rumors passed around by kids who knew fuck all

magic narwhal
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You're ignoring the reason games get big to begin with which is usually word of mouth and reactions

runic atlas
magic narwhal
peak phoenix
runic atlas
magic narwhal
runic atlas
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Believe it or not, most children aren't as online as all of us are

brittle garnet
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statements like
"Ads rarely win people over"
"People only find ads annoying/don't care about ads"
"People run adblock"

really indicate you're assuming things that are true for you are also true for the majority of people

magic narwhal
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And getting each other excited about things that their friends are playing

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Which has an influence

brittle garnet
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yes but they're more likely to talk about AAAs

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's just how it is

magic narwhal
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Skylanders wasn't really a triple A back in my day

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It was just a game with cool toys

runic atlas
brittle garnet
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yes but it's an exception

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and idk if it's actually indie

magic narwhal
runic atlas
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They just care if it's cool to play or people they know are playing it

brittle garnet
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they don't KNOW about the EXISTENCE of indie games except the VERY MOST POPULAR OUTLIERS

brittle garnet
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is that so hard to grasp

runic atlas
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For your information, the instance I was talking about was with Kirby

magic narwhal
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I wasn't talking to you fam

runic atlas
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That's undeniably triple A

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And kids discover it through ads

runic atlas
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i am in a game design university course and most people there have never even heard of hollow knight, just to illustrate the point

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it's already a group of people who play a lot of games

magic narwhal
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I think the point to be made is that fandoms are just centralized echo chambers. Indie games are discovered by the masses through events like state of plays or Nintendo directs. From there they can build their marketing, but without the boost most suffer and lose very important sales

magic narwhal
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Especially ones that are one offs or haven't been around long

brittle garnet
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it's reality, online spaces like this one are tiny bubbles

runic atlas
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^

opaque sigil
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when you only stick around in online spaces dedicated to indie games, you're gonna think they're a lot more popular and known than they are in reality

peak phoenix
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Yeah exactly

magic narwhal
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That's again true of Triple A's too a lot, people remember the franchise more than the games

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Hi

peak phoenix
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It's true of anything with a fandom

magic narwhal
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Like ask people about Horizon, most people won't know anything about it

brittle garnet
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people don't need to be part of any dedicated community or fandom to know about tripleAs

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that's worded badly

magic narwhal
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Before I ever played Horizon I still saw ads for it everywhere before release

gray owl
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are we still talking about AAAs ?

brittle garnet
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AAAs have more outreach to people who aren't specifically interested in gaming

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is what i meant

magic narwhal
peak phoenix
brittle garnet
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better than not knowing both

magic narwhal
half lintel
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When skong . . .

brittle garnet
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yes but if you know a game exists, marketing has worked

heady iron
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Basically what we're saying is
Leth is doing a terrible job
marketing the game so relatively nobody knows about silksong

peak phoenix
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Skong will come out. Just thank God it isn't Haunted Chocolatier

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If we get Haunted Chocolatier news before Skong, it's in trouble lol

brittle garnet
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isn't that the next game from stardew creator

peak phoenix
brittle garnet
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eyyy i remembered correctly

peak phoenix
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Feels like I've been waiting an eternity for it

brittle garnet
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i don't really care about it tho

heady iron
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stardew? Is that that Bethesda game everyones talking about

magic narwhal
peak phoenix
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That is Starfield

magic narwhal
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That would be a waste of money otherwise

brittle garnet
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you're adding words to my mouth that i did not say

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again

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you keep doing this

runic atlas
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Mfw Strawman argument

magic narwhal
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The point of marketing is to get people to invest, not just know something exists

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You're wasting money if there's no sales

opaque sigil
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it's almost like there's no good way to argue that indies have marketing campaigns on par with aaas

peak phoenix
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Oh man

brittle garnet
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Repeat [statement] but adding [context that did not exist] to reframe the argument in my favor

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anyway i'm done here bye

peak phoenix
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Marketing this marketing that. Sounds worse than one of those perfume commercials with that guy from Dune

high hedge
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Chalamet

heady iron
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TC should advertise their own crytpo

high hedge
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Timothy Chalamet?

peak phoenix
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Yeah that's the guy

high hedge
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I forget his first name

opaque sigil
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isn't it timothee

light egret
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mods have access to silksong devbuild?

opaque sigil
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no

runic atlas
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Yes

heady iron
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What's Chalamet's last name

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Obama

light egret
opaque sigil
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it's a thing you can do with discord, you can rename apps

cunning geode
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i like how you pinged him too so he can come troll you as well

peak phoenix
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Yeah Timothy (obviously stuck up) Chalamet

opaque sigil
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you can make that say anything you want

peak phoenix
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He gives of nepobaby energy

light egret
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idk man

cunning geode
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happy Juneteenth to my fellow usamericans

light egret
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its been so

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long

cunning geode
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it’s been a bit yeah

light egret
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im just looking for hope

peak phoenix
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It's Juneteenth?

cunning geode
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hope will find you

peak phoenix
#

Damn

cerulean sable
cunning geode
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hey dude i listened to gojira again i’m gonna have to get more of their albums

heady iron
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How's playtesting going ttacco

peak phoenix
inland ravine
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so anyway i appear

cerulean sable
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yes i like FLYING WHALESSSSSSSSSSSSSS so much 😭

cunning geode
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i’ve also been listening to I Am the Intimidator over and over

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just a really fun short concept album

cerulean sable
cunning geode
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that’s great

cerulean sable
quartz cave
runic atlas
quartz cave
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You know team cherry gave us deadlines you cant be so far behind at this point

cunning geode
cerulean sable
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thats and oddly specific album theme

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no damage? no crests 😤

opaque sigil
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no crests (or wanderer's only or whatever) sounds like a boring challenge ngl

quartz cave
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Ttacco needs to hurry up or he'll get fired

cerulean sable
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tbf in actual game context i doubt itll be considered a challenge

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its like, "CAN YOU BEAT DARKSOULS ONLY USING LONGSWORDS" type of shtick

worn spruce
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what are you guys playtesting

quartz cave
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Ask taco

runic atlas
heady iron
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Did you guys figure out the cause of the unskippable 10 minutes long cutscene of Hornet and Lace kissing yet

sinful flare
worn spruce
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cool

cerulean sable
runic atlas
heady iron
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Me when I fucking get Jack

runic atlas
inland ravine
high hedge
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🫵

inland ravine
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pls do not be mean to new knights

high hedge
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Yooooo aloha gwnjplantwave

runic atlas
inland ravine
inland ravine
high hedge
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Very cool to see you gwnj

runic atlas
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Also hi gwnj elderbug

high hedge
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See anything you like from the direct?

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I’m interested in a few of the games

inland ravine
inland ravine
hazy summit
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Hiiii

inland ravine
#

pixx :D

hazy summit
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Why does ornet look like tgat

inland ravine
#

hornt

sage glade
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@somber girder

spare fractal
inland ravine
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patoo fleapat

stoic sigil
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I have arrived

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Cue fanfare

coral prawn
stoic sigil
#

Rude

inland ravine
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no NO

manic abyss
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GWNJ

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or NWNT

inland ravine
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DAUD

stoic sigil
cunning geode
stoic sigil
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Finally good PS5 Exclusives

burnt grove
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You don’t know me but something will happen in 3 days regarding Silksong

inland ravine
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joker :D

spare fractal
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today I have a math test

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wish me luck

manic abyss
inland ravine
lament lotus
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as in homosexual

spare fractal
peak phoenix
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None of my sources have said anything about silksong so I doubt

inland ravine
sinful flare
peak phoenix
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Hello! Thank you!

spare fractal
inland ravine
#

KAANG JUMPSCARE

cloud token
peak phoenix
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Don't worry. I am sure we will at least get big news this year

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If not a release for the holidays

elfin yarrow
peak phoenix
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I have a strong feeling we are looking at early '25 thought admittedly I am hopeful for October

peak phoenix
elfin yarrow
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no

wary storm
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tomorrof for sure

elfin yarrow
#

for sure

heavy mason
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Hmm

copper dagger
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also agaib

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Not a random meme channel

high hedge
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And so do you :)

sage void
sage void
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once again will not be playing prime 4 on the switch

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wait where did slowmode go.,.,.

high hedge
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You are a mod now

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Congrats

sage void
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no way

high hedge
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What is your first ruling

sage void
#

did server booster role get an update or something

high hedge
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Yeah

sage void
high hedge
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Yippeeeee

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🏂

violet path
sage void
wary storm
sage void
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oh huh its just only not here 😭

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i have all the other ones

wary storm
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yep this is sad i think they shouldve give it to

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everyone

sage void
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am i being gaslit Clueless

cunning geode
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maybe

sage void
wary storm
sage void
wary storm
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this will be in silksong

high hedge
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Not anymore

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You RUINED it

wary storm
#

🤫 👅

tough glen
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where kaan gaming

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unless you mean some other kaang

coral prawn
sinful flare
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the fuck

tough glen
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omg kaan

pulsar sleet
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Slowmode?

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Nope

tough glen
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wait lmao why did you ping for that though

coral prawn
tough glen
#

(we will have no slowmode in the next five years)

coarse leaf
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We rejoice comrades

tough glen
violet path
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I think slowmodes gone in every channel

tough glen
tough glen
sinful flare
wooden schooner
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So I didn't check yesterday because of how hype the direct was.

sinful flare
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i was playing tf2 and procrastinating my project even further

wooden schooner
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How's everyone doing

sinful flare
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whats up

wooden schooner
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Also I should have kept the june jamboree name

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Because of super mario party jamboree

coarse leaf
small maple
#

Any silksong updates

coral prawn
#

No

cunning geode
#

it’s got tools

coral prawn
small maple
cunning geode
#

indeed

sage void
#

found a megumi figure.,.,

formal marsh
#

im hyping myself up for silksong again oops

stoic sigil
#

Fool

brazen rampart
#

Its crazy how i check this channel coping ppl will be like « wow ! Skong out now ! So cool ! So cool ! So cool ! »

stoic sigil
#

Clearly you haven't read the new TC Blog

wary storm
#

wow ! Skong out now !

stoic sigil
#

||fake||

cunning geode
#

but i don’t wanna sneak peak thats spoilersss

runic sage
#

guys what should i draw MS paint hornet doing

formal marsh
#

smoking a fat blunt

runic sage
#

got it

cunning geode
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blending a smoothie

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while simultaneously smoking a fat blunt

stoic sigil
#

Chat my sister has been raging at a washing machine for the past 10 minutes

cunning geode
#

rage against the machine

formal marsh
#

what did the washing machine do to her

stoic sigil
#

Not spin it seems

marsh ibex
runic sage
#

it is done

formal marsh
#

go off girlboss

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TC shouted me out when talking about pastries..

cunning geode
#

epic

runic sage
wanton eagle
#

Ahh, really like it!

runic sage
#

what should i draw ms paint hornet doing next though that is the quesion (please give me something my families going to the botanical gardens and im not so i need something to do 😭)

valid sable
#

draw Hornet at the botanical gardens

small maple
stoic sigil
#

Throwing car batteries into the ocean

runic sage
small maple
sage void
#

I GOT A KITE yahooo

runic sage
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ok sorry graig but kurathis asked first

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sorry

cunning geode
wanton eagle
stoic sigil
#

I am not Graig, I'm the real fake graig

sage void
#

this thing is so silly and the people at the store were very nice

marsh ibex
stoic sigil
#

Would Hornet be cracked at Fortnite

runic sage
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hornet at the botanical gardens (flower)

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first one to suggest next drawing gets it drawn

stoic sigil
#

Hornet cranking 90's in Fortnite

marsh ibex
peak phoenix
#

Hornet dabbing

runic sage
peak phoenix
#

Damn hornet is a sweat who knew

runic sage
peak phoenix
#

Hornet dabbing over a dead body

wary dawn
stray compass
runic sage
peak phoenix
#

Huh

runic sage
#

here you go

stray compass
peak phoenix