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Datto is the new antagonist after Final Shape
Wake the duck up no sleeping in discord
supposedly itll be prismatic but actually without restrictions
The Raid is you actually raiding his vault
Why? For what reason would you rather a worse game and a worse dlc over a good one?
bc bungie chugging along has been doing a shit job
Because Bungie Execs < Sony Execs
if they do good nobody gets replaced
If they do good do they deserve to be replaced?
So what'll be the next big showcase event that could possibly maybe have the news we desire?
Let the big die and let the small arise
SGF
Ik lightfall story was shite but i cant think of many reasons bungie execs would be worse than sony ones
I am liking indie games a lot rn
imagine that
another game's treasure
What really how suprising
Dungeon Keys. Destiny 2 Starter Pack. Greedy Eververse stuff. Synthweave. Season Pass price increase.
the execs are the issue, without back to back failures rheyll stick around making bad decisions.
the devs want to do alot of stuff, they agree with fans on things, execs are like lol no youre not making free earnable loot! sell 5 new sets in eververse tho
Pluh
executives are demons with no human notion of fun? huh?
Just beat the first 2 colo trials first try I'm so
I struggled with the 2nd one so much for so long this is such a gratifying feeling
why does it matter to pick apart theories now the next event isn't for like 2 months
that's sadder than the theorizing
I don’t think it’ll be at summer games fest either

WOW you're counting it down
just wait andsee who cares what some internet nobody said about an event, did you learn nothing yesterday?
The person who asked
my parents' divorce is 2 months and 18 days away I AM NOT WORRIED
if its another situation like id@xbox i will be quite pissed
Summer games fest won't have voxelized air temperature physics so as far as I'm concerned it can get fucked
Who's Dave
TC has the chance to do the funniest thing 
this is what mental illness looks like
The very famous Dave
He is my co worker
I can't believe he doesn't know about Dave
my line manager
Disgraceful
smh
K
Wait i forgot i got my junior cert i cant
heres a tip, stop talking about it and youll care less about this fake news
i wonder if my gangstalkers are hiding the release date
one year since this soon ._.
that's the most i can think of that's happening i guess
He found it
it's gotten quite big blah blah blah make the game blah blah GIMME!
He found Dave
Is anyone else playing fallout 76 after watching the show?
no
No
is that a rhetorical question
play new vegas instead :3
fallout new vegas wins every time
Modded Fallout 4 on Xbox is crazy
unmodded fallout 4 becomes depressing after a while
i’m finally back
Who?
after 1.5 years
ohio
video games
Kentucky better
screw kentucky
ill take that ps5 and trade you an old xboxone
Cincinatti on top
Sorry but I need it for D2
PC d2 is for sweats
nahhhhhh
We can negotiate when I get a PC
I have both I 100% prefer ps5
the writing in fallout new vegas makes every bethesda fallout game look like stale peanuts
ps5 has no games :<
theres like bloodborne and that's about it
I'm not getting a Xbox just because of the Fallout 4 Modding Scene
yeah it blows everything else out the water
probably because it was made by the same team as fallout one which helps
in less than 2 years
I im never even gonna buy a ps5 since im to broke and ps4 is better in every way
Last of us part 2, god of war 3, spider man 2 and ghost of tsushima
Didn't NV Team make The Outer Wilds Worlds?
ps5 is fine i literally only got mine for tlou
fudgin wish they made outer wilds too that game's actually incredible
Forgot one
Some of my fav games of all time all exclusive to ps5
God of war 3 was for the ps3, not ps5
Srry i meant the remaster
Helldivers 2 is a Playstation original
all of seven exclusive ps5 games on your console that's "near the end of it's cycle"
nintendo switch wins
thats hilarious
Xbox is the one dying they are stopping all the exclusives soon no?
Time to play my favorite dead game Helldivers 2
Not dead
hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
the only exclusive that comes to mind on xbox is halo and palworld rn lol
its not even close tbh
xbox looks like they're going after the market of people who want to try pc gaming but think it's too confusing
Palworld…?
true
Xbox try not to have an account ban exploit challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
palworld is on xbox and windows, no playatation, so it counts ig
you win a ride in the wood chipper
which one of you was about to say something really stupid, i got a massive headache for like 10 seconds
Who pingedme
My bad
I wanted to say something but I redacted myself
I was about to talk about how good Curse of Osiris was
About to say ass is better
i think video games are cool
Thats crazy
It might seem crazy what I'm about to say
Uh huh
i think video games are mid
i think
You are
thanks rené
the first dlc i skipped bc i was broke lol
I will play yugioh (I believe in the souls of Descartes)
Was it good?
yeah
Sorry Silkers, but I looked at the redacted direct, it looks COD related
could it be just one game of a bigger publisher?
Logo exudes COD vibes and I don't think they'd use this sort of imagery for a Indie
May not be COD, but DEFINITELY not Silksong
if it wasn't a nightmare i don't know what to tell you
Rat pfp spotted, engage rat conversation
long wormy tails
If I'm wrong, I'll buy the person below me Silksong
i dont want silksong
little pink hands
oh now you remind me, i was doing a marathon in some middle eastern country and there was a purple board with like a leave a message and i asked the server what to put and i woke up
neat... dreams are so weird sometimes
I had this weird ass dream
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats.
I was playing this png dating simulator
I was late this time.
Was colonel Sanders there
With 3 generic dating simulator girls
omg were they nice...
And fucking Perteraubo from W40k
HOT
what
waddahell
were they nice..
I don't remember the dialog
not the first time i dreamed about this place
was it a desert?
I had a dream that I woke up
All the popular HKtubers got a copy of Silksong
And started streaming it
But it ended with a rickroll
It was a troll everyone was in on
is there a new Wolfenstein game planned?
https://x.com/Xbox/status/1785308276063633588 this gonna be our best chance 
We’re going to be talking about games of course
Tune in to the Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct on Sunday, June 9 @ 10am PT: https://t.co/z78G8h75r2 | #XboxShowcase
i had a dream where george carlin was some kind of father figure giving me a lesson on computer programs
This absolutely COD
wow the three headed hollow knight dog!
It's so obvious
oh are we coping in chat again now :|
im not holding out hope the redacted one sure as hell isnt indie i can imagine, and this type of stuff never turns out well/to be anything ._. 🔽
april first
i didn’t even notice the three heads 
the store page is literally real that bit isnt bait
It's skong, everything is bait 
just keep seeing this image get thrown around elsewhere and its kinda irritating when its so clearly not gonna be accurate like usual lmao :P
Bait
but what if it is..
See? It was obvious
it has to be real
whyd thet redact it
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/hollow-knight-silksong/9n116v0599hb
we have this at a bare minimum :|
Ascend to the peak of a vast, haunted kingdom in Hollow Knight: Silksong! The sequel to the award-winning action-adventure, Hollow Knight. Explore, fight and survive as Hornet, princess-protector of Hallownest, as she discovers a land ruled by silk and song.
To draw viewership. I know that's been an excuse, but actually tho
draw viewership from people who dont give a shit about activision
3 headed dog? yk what else had 3 heads? The margwa from black ops 3 zombies. This is clearly an announcement for bo3 remaster 
summer games fest prob
nop
wolta
The only hope I have for info is SGF and that's still like maybe 5% hope
Nuh, Cerberus from hades
to draw viewership from you nerds you know you'll watch it anyway
Artificial hype
i have 50% hope
its most likely gonna be this year unsuprisingly
and even then thats still technically speculation
who knows when!
I'm pretty sure at this point if we're to hear anything it's going to be from Team Cherry themselves
why
sane response
But what if
mhm most likely
leth's been the one to announce delays and stuff in the past too so it seems likely
Leth should kill me
skong wait just tends to devolve into "event is soon", getting hyped over it and then immense disappointment when the things we delude ourselves into dont happen ^-^
He didn't respond to my prompt earlier I would've looked awesome
but what if it does
it was supposed to release like a year ago anyway lmao it's most likely almost done
It's almost the one year anniversary of the last announcement
If you guys want something to cope about 
if we're being realistic
I don't trust Xbox that much anymore (especially after the infamous ID@Xbox Youtube reply) but I think this could actually be it, yesterday's event was probably too small for Silksong and they didn't want it to overshadow other cool indies (looking forward to Centum in particular)
i want to cope and seethe and mald.... give me something... please... need to touch grass... anything.... internet
It feels like it’s been almost done for a year
1 year anniversary of Leth's delay announcement in 10 days
I'm 90% sure Xbox is gonna have the release date announcement, they've been pushing Silksong like crazy
there's like nothing else lmao
you guys are so silly
other than stuff in june, may's a little slow for events and whatnot
you don't care but you're actively counting all of the dates
Me fr, I check the steamworkshop everyday hoping for silksong release. And I've been holding onto a delusional idea that ss will release on my birthday (5 days away)
You are wrong
i want to study you i think
Admins should lock ss discussion for a week
I always am
What could possibly be it?
Stop sleeping on May
i just keep track of dates for events and stuff because im one of the rare people who actually care about the announcements and whatnot ^-^
its surreal watching the cognitive dissonance though sometimes
Leth tell them why May will be big for Silksong
reasonable
what’s may
No silk
No song
Just void
In heart
Xbox Showcase on 9th June, Silksong's second trailer was shown there two years ago
May I hit you with this Ratio
do you know what a calendar is by chance :3
look at it maybe
THE COPIUM IS BEING INJECTED INTO MY BODY WITH THE HIGHEST SPEED
6 days 17 hours until a comet wipes out all life on earth
Sgf is also june 4th
If Silksong is there, I'll buy the person below me Silksong.

🙂
Wandering Dutch said so / j
June feels like a good month
Quartzo told me there'd be Silksong in May
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME NOT HIM
i cant wait to watch the next live event and expect silksong! again
Bro don't u just hate greenpath
yeah i wouldn't be surprised if all of team cherry has developed heart problems from the burden of expectation by now
can someone send the image of id@xbox saying "more news coming soon"?
im tryna do something funny
omori pfp :0
yeah give me a sec
maybe they just have contrasting definitions of how soon the word soon means
Team cherry replaced their hearts long ago
Ari is at at least 93% mechanization now
supporting my ari is a cyborg theory THANK YOU
probably, just trying to make a meme because of what they said in the id@xbox showcase, it was kinda dumb, they were hyping us up about "a game they were teasing" and saying "we have hinted on it before" and everyone thought about silksong (probably) and they said "vampire survivors 2"
uhhh there's this, cant find the comment immediately :|
that's just them promoting the xbox page though
ah ok looks like nobody has the comment, ill try looking through wayback machine
it allegedly got deleted
Try reddit
bait used to be believable etc etc lol
the cope is real, can't blame the community as a whole but i've just given up on trusting xbox outside of actual announcements
Xbox will carry us to Silktown
SGF is for nerds
Not anything- gonna just release news themselves
no offence but who the hell in the hollow knight discord isnt a nerd in some way or another
Real Silkers are looking at May
all of us except you
imagine having trusted xbox
Well silkers love being dead wrong so I bet they are
Just you wait, doomerboy
true, but I'm a cool nerd like avgn
Not a doomer at all- just an observer
i don't swear a lot though so scratch that
real silkers looking forward to the comet
Just you wait, observerboy
I will- its what I do
I'm going to be SO correct that you'll fall on the floor crying
Sure buddy
Graaaaahhhh May!!!!
Just keep moving the goal posts
if it releases in may i will just die exclusively because college exams :|
being able to play the video game would be real nice idk
I know
copers have meen moving the goalpost for 5 years, its not even on the ground anymore its sitting in the back of a truck
silksong might end up being a summer game which is fine by me
its predicted to come out in the next 6 months
Or winter or next year
why does the season it releases matter
sickening
I think no news between now and August is actually unlikely, for real. The time is now
...by who? i dont actually think we've had any official news since Leth's tweet in may
How is Quartzo less trusted than Dutch at least Quartzo had a picture
bar the store page
Spoken like all the rest of them for 2 years now
by the same nobodies that always make shit up
It. Just. Makes. Sense.
i actually don't mind but it'll definitely come out in may
Bait... bait never changes...
not by the devs but the rating has been given and numerous games have come out within six months after the rating has been given
If it came out in May we'd have a release date already
May be
no it hasn't? what are you talking about lmfao
it never got given an ESRB you can check on their website
It got an IARC rating which is different
on microsoft store its been given 10+
It got an IARC rating not an ESRB rating
missinformation goes wild
🐌 😔
April 1st- no April 29- no may- no sgf- no national sewing day- Nov 19th
fr
silksong copers try do basic amount of research challenge:
killer drag queen title
idk google isnt always the most reliable. Im going off what they said which is that they got an esrb rating of 10+
i can literally debunk things right in front of them and they keep listening to these stupid ass youtubers atnd twitter people
Leth confirmed it was IARC
IARC gets converted into other ratings. So yeah it shows an ESRB rating but it was made through the IARC
they
did
not
get
an
esrb
rating
ok but the USK ratings require the game to be feature complete
oh ok mb
who is "they"? TC confirmed it wasn't an ESRB lmao
It's still an IARC rating
Powdered I understand why you have no will to live now
Because he's ancient?
but what if the stupid ass youtubers atnd twitter people are right twice a day, like broken clocks
Well yeah but also ss discussion
they literally never are
but what if..
what if no
It's like dealing with a flat earther
the what ifs have been debunked already
i unironically cannot remember when one of those dumbass youtube channels actually said/predicted something correctly.
never
MAE PFP
almost killed me 🙏
Powder 
gwenge
she just like me fr
name's actually mae :P
Leth should kill me NOW
silksong is the religion of certain morons for some reason, it'll come eventually...
hehe
Don't outsource
silksong cope is over we coping for Revenant Hill now
Believe me people are still coping
huffing straight copium
I love when Yor says miss Anya
Rare moment I was funny
real
if you guys repent it'll come out sooner yknow maybe team cherry will spare you in the silkture
anyone excited for hades 2 ea?
well it hasnt been cancelled (i hope) so thats good
yeah unbelievably
@weary tapir How far into Madoka Magika did you get?
my cope is just “ss will come out one day” atp
mn
it'll come out this year probably. just not guaranteed to be <6 months
all we know is it will eventually come out so these youtubers making videos are kinda redundant
May will have the release date of the Silksong cancelation reveal
W
theyre learning
lmfao (i made this btw)
yeah please don't boost these youtubers with fake ss news or scraping the bottom of the barrel for content. It only helps their views
fudgin wish there was starboard in here holy hell
this is art
the idea that people are comparing it to half life 3 is just. wow. that's so fucking funny
love the sisiphyus (i cant spell) music lol
Yea- like no one is even working on half life
its bizarre that i've genuinely met a couple people who think the silksong struggle is a unique experience or even worse than some other fandoms out there
sisyphus
thanks
jojos reference
we're fairly lucky compared to what it could be, it'll happen at some point :|
not like it's been too long of a wait without updates
especially since there's still people working on it ._.
team cherry doesn't care about the fans (me. myself. i)
we shouldn't forget certain things
wrong! amnesia.
like, can you believe AoT is actually finished?
all the best silkers have a form of memory loss
Yea- I love when stuff ends
I'm Team Cherry, and today we'll be killing my fanbase
yes
yeh
Ima look up starboard
Hi, Will Smith from Team Cherry here. We're killing the game, there has been no active development on Silksong since 2018, you've just been baited this whole time. fuck you, die. Best wishes.
Like.... the decision so look at your story and just END it so it satisfies instead of beating dead horses
Legit
Fearless Fox will sweep Silksong
i like it when video games are developed for eternity with no end in sight :D it's so much fun!
same
and everyone is left to descend into madness
mnyeh
indie game development takes so long
Well I can't think of any examples of that so I'm good
give them a break
it’s jus gonna make silksong that much better tbh
talking about live service games stop it I DON'T MEAN SILKSONG
didnt hollow knight also take a long time to develop or am i just stupid
hollow knight took 3-4 years
Hey a decent joke in this channel. What a day
you can’t keep getting away with THISSSS
There will be a June Jubile
yes
without dlc
and was also effectively a passion project more than anything.
shanks is a D1 silksong glazer
they have their workflow down now though
although you replied to what I wanted to reply to
and they literally switched engines midway through hollow knights development
reply
yeah, true. project size is just so much substantially larger that it sort of counteracts itself.
either way tl;dr indie games take a helluva while to release, TC are doing the best they can. announcements draw resources away from that
Helluva boss
yeah I agree I'm not complaining about no news just wanted to mention that
hollow knight took four years and the release patch was a buggy mess for a brief while. they have the opportunity now to make sure silksong isn't like that, and they're taking it
filthy acts for a reasonable price
I pray they don't mess it up
the most likely wont, silksong was announced like what 6 years ago?
5.5
Man, I am disappointed in SinkSong. Litterly 0 new content 🤦♂️
if Silksong truly is as good as hollow knight is without its flaws and an even larger scale then dear god nobody will be ready
do you know what day it is today?
Tuesday
The 30th
i meant game design wise, it doesn't matter how much time they put into it they can still mess it up
like I'm not sure about there being quests but we'll just have to see and trust them
it's still time for your lie in April
the day before may?
silksong releases in 15 seconds trust
aight bet
silksong isn't real, get over it already
Trusting randos
it was all a dream
Nty
yeah just like you should on the internet mhm!
everyone online is your friend and you should believe them no matter what
guys i had a dream abt elden ring where if you dual wield medium shields, parry with one and then riposte with the other, the riposte is just the foulest uppercut that sends the guy spinning upwards like a fighting game character, and it makes a Mausoleum bell B O N G when you hit them
(proceeds to get kidnapped)
actually need that in my life now tbh
Huh
Are you guys missing old forums?
cap
So?
yeah you can wishlist it? so?
actualy idk
dual wield shields is not good, two handing shield is real deal
the store page has been out for a month now
might as well be hopelisting at this point
You should wishlist Silksong, NOW!
well about that
it has to be dual wielding because i also dreamt that the other shield had a new ash of war called “Gravity Crash”, which makes a gravity well that pulls in enemies as you shield bash
cant have that and a parry at the same time
W rendition
I see, one of the kind of dream that makes you more tired than before going to bed
hi guys
(they're playing hide and seek)
Hi discord user frostyyy
Hi person
im discussing ss
silk is real
SS must be in this or Summer Fest
or neither
It can’t be out after GTA6
Then a huge shadow drop
Actually gta6 is going to have a side quest where you hype silksong up
Its a marketing tactic
It will be a suicidal marketing
They have a rabid fanbase
We are going to be the marketing strategy
nobody is going to play anything else after gta vi right?
people will be put off of video games forever because of how much it will suck
If there’s no release date … they should deliver any updates then
there's not really any reason to do that until they have a date
waste of time and effort
damn i didnt know we had professionals from the industry here
We said that for tears of the kingdom
Updates don't make the game come faster. It'll be out on the same day. Since it doesn't change the time.... might as well just wait until it's out
We said that for other games
Needing an update is a personal choice that individuals need
well it wouldn't be out on the same day, it would be out later
Thank god Nine Sols comes on May 29th.
I'm going to set a government building on fire
Assuming putting out news delays even a single day....
wish me luck
Good luck!
if it was something on the level of a blogpost or trailer, it would be more than one
You know a bunch of people messages were sold recently right / j
Yea that person was just saying update
being more substantial than 'dev is still going' would take time
how the fuck is fnf actually getting content before ss?
i thought that game had the creators run away with the money
what is wrong with this timeline
One thing has nothing to do with the other so
YOU'RE KIDDING
I will play Monster Hunter Wilds over GTA VI
can we just let team cherry cook
so we literally have 2 events back to back?
The redacted stream is going to be Call of Duty, it's going to be a direct sequel to Black Ops 2
it's not like they're reading this
hohoho
I understand that but literally this chat goes round and round in circles. Let's just be patient
sgf is at 9pm gmt and i'm gmt +3 so it's fucking night
That would be awesome...
delayed game is eventually bad
delayed game is eventually good rushed game is always bad
delayed game is eventually bad
it might be
then you don't have to worry about playing it
Silksong sucks nuts, let's talk about good games
Like gollum 
True wilbo
SGF is on the 7th and Xbox is on the 9th
anyone had issues with Ori WoTW randomly crashing? My game seemed to crash after a few minutes and I don't think my PC is bad.
for me sgf is at the very first second of june8th
i just love not sleeping
ori cant crash if you dont open it,have you tried that?
Yeah, I'm close to your time zone. For me it's at 23pm.
On release patch mine would drop frames and the noise would go BRAAAP
So not just me? I tried lowering the resolution and reducing graphics settings but my game still crashes around 15-20 mins playing consistently.
Have you tried turning it off and going on a quest? I've heard that fixes most problems
Dang that sucks
Sorry, I gotta play Ori 'til the new hit indie game Hollow Knight: Silksong™️ releases.
play better games
Bro I spent money on it, got it on a sale. Kinda bumbed it crashes. I wonder if it is some settings because my memory ramps up like crazy.
what if they were right-
I also recommend Rogue Legacy- though if you wanted to skip to its far superior predecessor Rogue Legacy 2 I think that would be fine
memory leak moment
Make sure you're not running anything else- go into control panel and give it priority. I can't promise it'll help but it's something
Also- yea maybe get a little more memory, it's more money but more is always better
I'm terms of memory anyhow
that reminds me i should test ror2 console now that my ps4 has bookoo memory
let's go back a bit
Skull and Bones, the first AAAA game
Starfield, Bethesda's greatest masterpiece
Cyberpunk 2077, the greatest launch of all time
Mass Effect Andromeda, easily the best game in the series
Might No' 9, spiritual successor to Mega Man that has perhaps surpassed the original
Duke Nukem Forever, probably the game of all time
i can go on
tbf alot of those were rushed in a way
those should have been finished
Good thing those instances have exactly nothing in common with silksong
you could go on, but please don't
Cyberpunk didnt want to do last gen consolse at all and rushed a port, Duke nukem was in dev so long they changed console generation and restarted (not mentioning the shitty content)
Andromeda was the B team
this is a joke right
@shell yacht
Todd shitwad has no excuses for shitfeild however, they continue using an ancient engine and reusing assets
Basarios is real!
place some bombs at that rock NOW
silsong
That implies Gravios also exists
Which eh…. Pain
just stay away from active volcanos
shhhhhh

no gravios in my swamp
would shrek defeat a basarios
Basarios is real!!! Can we get much higher
Seeing his name on the Fallout (show) credits is like, Awe look at you, riding on coattails
100% my armors and finishing the last two monsters
Bold of you to assume you can finish an MH game
Risen Covid Dragon
Straight Malzeno
So i've heard
But it will fall under my spear
And my gunspear
But tonight, Animal Crossing
i still gotra go finish some elders, i tried toget back into it but my muscle memory is gone
Ye same, gotta do afflicted mons to retrain
Bro got muscle amnesia
i think its bc i tried replaying world and it was so clunky by comparison
Mhmm
OK so WE can't trust silksong rumors but YOU can leak MH Wilds returning water combat
Only if it was a good game
I love that during all this Silksong craze Wilbo only posts random memes on his Twitter
Holy shit chat
transforming into my ultimate form.......................................................................................................................................................................................................check back in eighty years
We need to wait 3 more years
oh shit it says 80 not 8
apparently starfield came out did anybody else not notice
they skyrim npcs did, bc they were in the wrong game
TRUE
Wilbos Twitter looks AI Generated
you look ai generated
I look ai generated
I am IA generates
As an AI Language model, I cannot kill other people
But you would be a lovely candidate if I could
oh that too, don't worry
breath of the monster hunters going to be awesome
Is there any game completely made by AI?
Not yet
Silksong I believe
I Mean there's some that everything other than some of the character models are I think
Snake 2 actually
By Doug Doug 🙂
the finals 
What do we call how enemies (not controlled by other players) act or response in game? Is it also called ai? I think I heard someone call it ai before.
i hear they like to spin violently
yeah tis AI
Any hollow knight fans?
no
shit game
Overrated as fuck
Hollow Knight
To many bugs
idk why the AI’s taking so long for silksong though
Man I've been light headed the whole day
Drink water
Did
Fun fact: ||Hitler|| died on this day in 1945. #RIPBOZO 

You’re welcome, goodbye
At least if it's an impending stroke they'll have to put me in Silksong

Well firstly what did you do
I didnt understand at all I think it was because I have pinned a guy from 4 years ago, and then because i discussed about pronoms, But the only thing i said was that "they" was used for plural as far as I know
or ta least that is put in my english books
English isn't your first language?
Same, it's confusing at first
I know that english is very bad thaught in spain but ...
Just refer to a person by what they ask you to refer them by, ignore dictionary definition in that case
Anyway no news
english speakers use they as a generic singular pronoun
more recently, people use it a specific singular pronoun
Thing is, "they/them" doesn't exist in spanish
any competent dictionary would have that use recorded
if it doesn't there are serious problems
I haven't looked in a dictionary in a bit so I probably goofed up there
refer them ? I dont understand that, is like , when I logged to the server they let me put pronouns or something in the role?
Just treat it as a grammar interference
ok
Because I was also confused first time
this also isn't quite right, 'they' has been used as a specific singular pronoun just without reference to a gender, what's newer is the use to communicate a specific absence of alignment with either gender
well anyways do we have more prediction events for silksong?
The next blue moon
that has nothing to do with silksong as far as I know
you would know, I'm not very knowledgeable about grammar stuff
That's where they supposedly annoynced ss release window in 2022
Fun part is that in spanish, a plural form of "he" is the "they" equivalent (gender in spanish is a lot more complicated vs english)
well the masculine form sometimes is used as neutral
it is the unmarked form
wdym
it's the generic form
not always
you mean in adjectives or pronouns?
both
"él" is masculine and "ella" is feminine
yes
no neutral
That's the thing, "él" is also neutral
neutral is encapsulated in the unmarked form when it is expressed
el psy congroo
not really , tell me one case in which that happens
"el radio" vs "la radio"
"el" is also an article
"la" is an article
not a pronoun
the point is that the 'masculine' forms are used in a neutral context
"él" is pronoun "el" is article
for example?
this
bro that arent pronouns
doesn't really matter
yes it does
we are talking about pronouns and adjectives
also "el radio" is not a good example
there is not a separate system of encoding gender for pronouns and adjectives
Why are we bringing articles into it? Was the discussion not about pronouns?
it wasn't really

well yes it was
the point is that the masculine forms are unmarked and used in neutral contexts when necessary
in spanish there isnt almost any neutral pronoun
yes thats true sometimes
well that's not true but only third person ones are relevant
tell me the neutral pronoun
What does unmarked mean in this context 
singular first person and second person pronouns are neutral
interrogative pronouns are also neutral I think?
essentially the default
Oh ok
but in third person there isnt neutral pronouns
Then create ones
why?
There are
tell me
Inclusivity and being nice to nb people?
also not exactly true but reflexive pronouns also aren't used in that way
"él"
"él" is masculine
Gender in spanish is a lot more complicated than english
Yeah in Italian too despite that we found a way
I wasnt right in this one , there are a lot of neutral pronons
it's going to lose its gendered morphology eventually anyways 
well at least a lot of it, but that'll take a while
It's not that hard if you think about it for a while really
Don't worry chat, as a monolingual white person I'll make sure to change your language for you
If Ellos is used to refer to a group of mixed genders, you could make an argument that "él" can be neutral in some cases by extension, as Ellos is basically the plural form of él
Thanks for bringing us your democracy
I dont think so, as far as I know there is not intention here in spain
You can still do it with current spanish, you just need to use a more sophisticated vocabulary
guys recommend me cool indie games
🦅
there wasn't an intention for English either, or any other language that lost its gender systems
yeah but thats an exception
Yeah but you guys still use vosotros 
Or just. Use a different vowel at the end of adjectives to solve 90% of the issue really
vosotros y vosotras
there is no way
there is yes way
which one
Yeah I'm just poking fun at how most other countries don't use vosotros or vosotras
ə
that letter doesnt exist in spanish
Yes it does
do you mean "e"
it's a schwa
we dont have schwa in spanish
Neither in Italian we just implemented it
That's french
That's not french
i dont think the spanish royal academy would accept that though
doesn't matter
They aren't and likely won't
also that vowel would sound very bad
They will if enough people use it for enough time
Do you know how it sounds
Doesn't make gramatical sense though
Do you know how languages evolve
Yes
more or less, for spanish speakers I dont think it is easy
usually by accident
It makes almost no sound tho
not quite like that
if it isnt rhytmic is very uncomfortable
in general just adding stuff to your phonological inventory deliberately isn't a thing
I mean, through constant use of the alternative things they become the norm. Just in this case the change is deliberate
yeah but here i dont see that intention
I wouldn't worry about it, everyone everywhere will speak english
I've seen star trek
or Mandarin.
I've seen firefly 
Reflected impedance effect: 
What I'm saying is there should be the internation
eh
dont think so i have never seen any person worry about that to be honest, in spain I mean
What's the problem of just trying to change a language to be more inclusive?
cool how apparently like half the spacefaring civilization is chinese but nearly every character is
if anybody doesnt complains it is fine I guess
If people who speak spanish want to use something like 'elle' to refer to themselves people should try to use it but that's kind of the extent of it
No silksong
that was i was talking about "elle" sounds very bad
You have never heard of a non binary Spanish person complaining about no neutral words?
Because most people in spanish speaking countries see it as unecessary, there are a lot of problems that take higher priorities
I relate
And none of the problems are currently being resolved
we have economic social and political problems to care aboout that
corruption,
I'm switching to toki pona this is ridiculous

They just can't be resolved overnight
Who’s saying it should be overnight
you are right , is not like " we are going now to solve economic problems"
The day corruption is resolved capitalism will be dead
having economic problems doesn't mean you can't also try to be accommodating of people
Which I mean I wish, but you get what I mean, no way that's gonna happen
The main point is that the issue does exist regardless of other issues persisting and the language will change
so there is a lot of stress to care about that things ( I dont want to be rude)
It's a lot harder
yeah but there is not intention on that
like I said before it's just a matter of time anyways
surely you can appreciate beauty in simplicity
spanish will lose its gender system, chinese will gain one, etc etc
says nobody
bomp
Not that harder really but if you say so
?? There is intention, it’s just slow
says the way languages generally evolve
He literally just said it
tell me how a person who only earns 1000€ at month and pays 500€ of rent will overcome that?
It is, because it involves a massive effort that will take an insane amount of time
it's not that much effort
To use a different letter when talking about an nb person?
referring to somebody in the way they ask you to isn't hard
I'm talking about using a different letter not overcoming economic issues
If they ask me, fine, but I just won't adapt it to my personal vocabulary
me neither
that's all anybody would reasonably ask
Imagine this working till exhaustion and then your goverrment instead of giving aids only says: "we encourage people to use this letter" I understand the letter thing till a point but there are more important issues
except it isn't an either/or
hello chat
what letter ve talking about
and the government saying it is such a random non sequitur and straw man
Hello
kendrick dropped
Ə
?? 
schwa is a weird pick
Also because the government doesn't just. Say things.
schwa isnt even in the spanish phonetics
actual jumpscare seeing you here
I am everywhere
well it does there were some ministries who talked that
It's been used in Italian for a while, I used it for consistency in this case
not in spanish
is it written as schwa or is it the sound
Who's a fool?
(If you say I am there will be consequences)
Written as schwa
you
oh ok
The sound is. Barely there
then sure type it however
let me explain we dont have schwa, there is a lot of people who didnt even know what "schwa" is
Italian doesn't either
You're going to the UK
Some people implemented it in their speech as a way to be more inclusive
Just because something isn't in your alphabet doesn't mean you can't use it
but nobody complains !!! thats the thing
sei bellə
alright then bruv, what's all this then
give im the beans, larry
I have never seen anybody complain about that
indistinct....
Except the Non Binary people who do
Exactly
wtf italian in chat
Hello remember we can only speak English tho
well maybe, but there are 47 million people in Spain there is no possible way to handle it individual as far as I know that community is not so big
there are people who don't
unfortunately changes are only driven but huge numbers of people
even though i've seen the asterisk being used way more often
i think it's because ə is essentially nowhere to be found on a keyboard
I personally like Schwa more because. It's actually a letter.
I dont have any intention to offend by the way
Yeah
why are there italians here
stop wasting time on discord
go restart the roman empire
they always start small
i won't
Our prime minister is already trying to restart some other things, we can't
my point is it sounds very bad, and for some people it sounds dumb .
it just dont fit
feels very artificial
I thought the same at the start. A couple years passed and I was like "Shit this good"
The first time I heard about the Schwa being used for neutral was like, more than 4 years ago
And somebody who grew up hearing it wouldn't give it a second thought
Exactly
and for some people a bit humillating ,
A not too big not too small YouTuber said he was gonna start using it, and now, Cassette Beasts uses it in the Italian translation of the game
Uh?
I am just saying what i have heard
Wdym Humiliating
I have yet to see a nb person complaining where I live
How many nb people do you know where you live
"elle" sounds exremely artificial and bad , so it would feel very weird
no one
Exactly
so that
Ok but how is it humiliating
I am just saying other people opinions
You can't say "Nobody is complaining" having a sample size of 0
Weird is subjective
there is people who opposses that
I just think you're not using the right term. Why would people who want to be referred to with ə find it humiliating?
the thing is that there is some social opposition to that
Mo
Usually the people worried about that here are people that are way well off economically speaking, so you kinda get some feeling of dissonance when you hear that, in the eyes of the 3rd world, that's seen as a "first world problem"
Yes that is called transphobia
sorry for misunderstanding , I am reffering to people who is not binary
Shoutout to anyone who said that they'd leave if there was no news but stayed anyways
OUT
Oh so it WAS today
if a nonbinary person doesn't want that term used to refer to them that's fine
No it was yesterday
Oh aight
I dont know the opinion of nonbinary people though
I would pop in occasionally, came back in the midst of rumors, now I’m here again
That is literally the only opinion that matters
I should leave again
When it comes to me personally, I just expect that people don't assume I can read minds
Only if you want
and the rest of the population ? if population says no I am not going to do it
they wont
That is called transphobia
not necessarily
Everyone is telling me to kill babies on the internet I think I will do so
obviously transphobia motivates a lot of the pushback but assuming nonadoption is always transphobia is silly
Oh ma God it's Giant Enemy Fool
you should probably give me all your money
yeah its bad that that exists but it isnt useful to spend a lot of public funds in that I would use public funds in social aids and so
You're the only person telling me that
It's almost as if we already had the premise of people telling you they want to be referred to with a specific thing
nobody is proposing using public funds on this issue
Talking to people doesn't require funding
How the hell would you use public funds for this?
Hey gang
Unless you count internet bills ig
spending money "in to teach kids in shcool" (which is very controversy, not because i think that but some poeple thinks that ) or campaings
I don't really care if someone wants to change their identity or identifies as something else, they just need to ask me if they want to be refered to in a certain way (and hopefully I don't forget it)
Oh goodness please government don't pay my bills for me oh god
agree
That is the whole premise we've been working with
Isn't that exactly our point
yeah but some people wont do that
that doesn't really affect things
That's called being an asshole
They keep bringing up imaginary people who oppose the point and keep arguing for them
I think they mean that some people won't tell you their pronouns
Me when strawman argument
nobody does that in Spain, and this is totally relatable to any spanish speaker
Then they clearly do not care and you don't have to do anything
I have never seen that
It doesn't take money really. New textbooks are gonna be made anyways.
there will be always the argument " they are manipulating our kids" thats use often
Would you call Spain a mostly LGBTQ friendly country?
it wouldn't have to be in textbooks
the existence of people making the inevitable bad faith transphobic arguments is largely extraneous
yeah they are equal and the constitution protects them
That 👏 is 👏 called 👏 being 👏 a 👏 bigot
bigot?
that is.... not what she asked
I wouldn't call my country like that (not Spain), but that's mainly because of lack of rational education where I live
Our constitution prohibits fascism but our Prime Minister is fascist. Are the people often transphobic yes or no?
I cant answer, I dont have data
I like to use the concept of "reflected impedance" when seeing these situations
Do you know what fascism is
what does "reflected impedance" mean ?
Tf happening here
silksong came out
😭
It's a concept mainly related to transformers in circuit analysis
yeah sorry I cant explain myself good
Basically, when you use a transformer, some energy will be reflected
cause i am not in talking in spanish, I reject fascism, anyway we should stop talking about that
sorry if I offended you
Not in this universe 
Transformers is a dead franchise
Afaik last news were what Leth said im Valentine's day
I will delete the comment by the way
Ok
I wish
they keep making movies
