#sk-discussion
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Okay, what are peoples speculations about upcoming events to look forward to due to the age rating?
next year's triple i
What about summers gamefest
I ate it
Also what they did was mean spirited
Fair enough
yes, yes the summer thing
if i were there i would've leaned harder on that honestly
I mean they only said it during the stream loading page its not like they advertised it or liked silksong tweets beforehand
Sgf ๐๏ธ
That loading page which was basically a collection of jokes
coming up on a 2d game with an indie austrailian developer with a protagonist whose name starts with h and ends with t
Also team cherry wasn't on the list
Awww ty pookies <3
So was Silksong released during iii
Omg this is sugoiiii
Yeah but then it was taken back at the end
TC giveth, and they taketh away
===_===<
Bug eyes
Why not on july 4th smh
lol I beat what I thought was chapter boss but it's still chapter 1
Bruh purolator didnt even try to deliver my package and i gotta pick it up myself
BOMBACLAT
What game
Digimon World Next Order
I need ultimate level digimon already, though the game gives those with like 700 required points in strength etc, the max is 9999
Yeah that's the new Marvel movie right
Womp womp
boss attack while guarding : like 100 damage, without, thousands
Aluo should I watch JJK or Oshi No Ko first
I'm deciding what to watch after I catch up to One Piece
Jjk is magic action and oshi ko no is singing
Oshi no Ko
i have only seen the latter out of these so i'd say jjk
do not read the oshi no ko manga 
jjk it is
The stars?
blood of the damned
Hey
Fern: Ms. Frieren, Silksong got an age rating in korea
Frieren (reminiscing): Himmel always said he looks forward to playing that game
How you do fellow kids I think this is pretty relatable
weebs making the worst memes possible:

griddy

Hey guys, I really need some clown makeup!
you need a job
Exactly zero people need clown make up
Pretty sure the market is saturated anyways- after yesterday
five years
Yup. In five years 3 people did a metric assload of work on a game
Gonna be hype when it drops
you should inject cat urine into your friend's blood stream while they're asleep as a funny prank :D
i feel nothing but peace

it's finaly coming out
gwbbfmaindm
doesn't matter, the very notion of it coming out is good enough for me
i married and had 3 kids while waiting for silksong
Cool
Congrats 
I married and had 3 kids while waiting for silksong
i am just kidding
Then who did I just marry....
Yes. It's always assumed people are lying on the internet
i love lying
me to
hiii star ^w^
its like pulling off a heist
I dont like lying
you get your blood pumping and its thrilling
(Lie)
krill 
still trying to beat steelsoul mode but i die to the same boss every time
What boss
hk
Yeah what boss
hollow knight
back to slime rancher pfps 
yup next run i am gonna get it
The new art they released for Earth Day was pretty cute
Awww
Are youa . Vikings fan
WALL-E 
yup
why tho
Just wonderingng
what team do u support
professional clowns:
they already have their supply tho
and as for NEEDING it....
then we're just parsing hairs
they can make themselves look like clowns through other means
Just like you donโt need internet access
yoink
oh no my internet
thank god for my phone's dataplan
man remember when we didnt have phones
Rubs dataplan shaped belly
Is this a "๐ด" moment or are you talking bout as kids?
as kids- not having massive powerful pocket computers
Yeah I dont miss it tho
Hey, Silksong will come out before crowsworn, right?
Idk
Marketing guy for both games said silksong would definitely come out first
No confirmation beyond that
pretty sure leth said it would
leth is the marketing guy
Dont know about publishing but yeah he handles all marketing with the trailers and shit
i mean crowsworn is a long way off so it's not much of a distinction
Oh huh thats cool
Yeah crowsworn got massive with the kickstarter didnt it?
yea their original decemer (2024????) prediction is likely going to take longer with all the stuff added
but then- i don't know much about it, really
but what i do know is attaching leth's name to the kickstarter persuaded me out of 50 bucks
Yeah they got over 10 times what they needed to just make the game
The original release date was december 2023 lol

well there ya go
And now it's "2025 or later"
makes sense
Crowsworn will be awesome
Ill be patiently waiting ๐
Its important to remember that any form of work in life can become monotonous and tedious depending on what comes up in life outside of work
Taking longer can keep the passion running healthy and strong. The cuphead dlc imo was a great example of patient creativity that really paid off
That dlc came out immaculately
I didn't even know they were making a dlc
Yeah i honestly believe that the best thing devs can do after coming off of a great and successful release is say absolutely nothing about what they are working on until its fruition is nearly complete
It eliminates all pressure
That practice would particularly benefit creatives that like to pace out the work for the reasoning above. I wouldnt be surprised if thats how folks like tc and crowsworn and the cupbead devs like to work.
I agree
I'm also sure once Silksong releases it wil probably last way longer than hollow knight is lasting (it still is)
Unfortunately, silksong was initially planned as a dlc and just kept getting bigger and bigger. The cat was let out of the bag before it got so big tho
If silksong is as big as I remember being told it will be, I'll take like, a month and a half to even beat the game for the first time
i think telling us even 5 years ago is still fine
nah I agree with Rilk, i don't think it should've been announced as early as it did
ofc that isnt team cherry's fault cuz they didn't think the game would get as big as it is now at the time
a game taking five years is normal, a dlc taking that long isn't
tc didn't announce the project at that point, they announced that the project had expanded into a full game
i dont even think it should've been in the direct in 2019
i think it could've waited til like 2021
yeah they shouldn't have even ran the kickstarter how many people had zote spoiled for them because of how reckless they are
I think team cherry should cease
Seemingly it didn't matter at all when it was announced marketing wise
They needed to announce it cause people were expecting Hornet DLC and staying quiet on that for 2 years would've been real weird
that is true
It also wasn't in a Direct but everyone seems to think it was
Just seemed like all the odds were against TC tbh lol
oh mb
it was just a blog post right
Yup. 1 day after a direct to be exact
TC rolls earliest trailer, asked to leave Direct
๐ญ
They had a whole treehouse but never appeared in a direct for more than 2 seconds
I think the treehouse was the real killer cuz it made people think the game was more far along than it probably was
looking back the treehouse areas look more like dev testing areas LOL
There are lots of bugs
Yup, imo that's the thing that was a real weird decision
Full treehouse and a demo isn't a thing you do with a game that is 5 years away
tbf those areas were fairly early on in the game
to be fair, its unreasonable to think that a curated demo experience means the game is finished
if they have a chance to do a treehouse and can do it idk how they turn it down in good conscience
like.... entirely unreasonable imo
But also what game does more marketing when it's 5 years away than the following 4 years combined
the demo was also visibly incomplete 
"i can't believe the devs gave us 6% of the game- it looks done!"
they dont necessarily know its 5 years away
one where that initial marketing was clearly plenty
the 2022 trailer is complete eye candy
or maybe they do know... ๐น
i love it sm
I still think it's extremely bizarre. Why not do all that marketing 4 years later
Hype I guess
Hype is a reason to wait
odds are tc didn't know when it was going to be done and maybe they just wanted to strike while the iron was hot, it's not like it wasn't immensely effective
so lets say the game is coming out in like a month, does anyone here actually know what TC is gonna do marketing wise between now and then? no.
I always thought the deep docks treehouse area looked really weird
Like it just was layed out weird
probably just demo things
I mean it's a portion of the demo but yes some of the stuff being where it was was strange, I wouldn't assume things will all be in the same spots in the final game
Like the mask shard just floating
especially the mask shards, there were two there right?
Yeah those obviously weren't in their final locations
silsong whens kilksong skongsil
I know one was right after an enemy room
Anyway I personally think making a demo for a game years before it releases is weird, period. Regardless how obviously unfinished or effective marketing it is.
yea the mask shards were like not even out of the way of the main level design at all
I agree
Didn't HK get a demo too
Yeah for backers I think
Kickstarter demo is different I think
i dunno- i think people are just upset that they decided certain things about the game and it didn't come to pass
People obviously want results if they're paying for a product still being made
90% of this community's frustrations are self inflicted
OK Aunt Wu
If 99 games do marketing a certain way people are allowed to assume the 100th will be similar
Well yeah
Silksong was also a stretch goal even if they probably aren't using the kickstarter funds anymore
its still similar as far as I have ever been concerned
Silksong's marketing is the same is the majority of ways
I think all of the funds were used for hk iirc
Plus some
They released hk cause they ran out of funds so yea
the times are, MAYBE a little stretched by but then you remember that its 3 people hard at work making a masterpiece instead of farting out a brown shooter
CONTEXT is key when thinking about anything silksong related and the complainers don't have an ounce of nuance
Silksong's marketing is typically compared to games who actually needed to establish themselves to consumers
I think you're being too hyper rational for the average person
Yes technically you're right but expecting everyone to have zero emotion is not how people work
Yeah a lot of sequels do go completely cold turkey
Or hell even games made by famous publishers
Cyberpunk had nothing for like 8 years
im being exactly as rational as anyone who actually thinks about anything they do, ig
I'm saying the average person does not think everything through rationally
I'm honestly completely fine wuth how silksong has handled its marketing but I do really want a development journal or video of it after release
bringing up emotions is exactly what i mean anyways- people work THEMSELVES into a frenzy based on actual nothing
Average person doesn't sit around pondering SS's marketing
Would be awesome to actually see how silksong progressed over the years yknow
I mean we have gotten a handful of snapshots and I don't think showing too much more would be productive
And if you expect people to do that you're gonna think everyone is an idiot
it's not some oddity with how TC is doing things- people just assume things, and then get mad when they're dead wrong
I mean like after the game is completely out
then yeah
Just would be cool to see the inerworkings
So SS's marketing is perfectly fine and normal TC just didnt account for people who are irrational?
Thats... not an issue
Didn't account for the average person
The average person isn't an irrational man thinking about how good TC's marketing was
I'm not even blaming TC for anything
what is chat yapping on about today
how having a playable demo that played brokenly was too early
I think that you are too hard on the people who are complaining.
i see
That's what I actually think, really
Perhaps I should've rephrased to "people who are being irrational"
People complaining aren't total idiots they are just excited and don't know what to do with that
Outside of some extreme examples, I think the frustrations people are voicing are totally fine even if they are not entirely rational.
Put on the roman armour, we are marching to Australia
Yeah like that
Sure but there's no reason to treat those frustrations with any level of respect
The avenues are entirely irrational though- "they announced it too early" "the demo looked playable" and "i don't want another cyberpunk" are just meme soundbites that don't make any sense in the context of real life
TC did nothing wrong at all it was just the circumstances that forced their hand to do early marketing, IE the Kick starter and (maybe) Treehouse
they have absolutely no bearing on the current situation
and there's NO EFFORT for complainers to actually try to understand anything that I've seen
yeah
maybe they DID announce it early- but TC didn't know when it was releasing...
alot of people complain that there's "Radio silence" but honestly for a game that is not out yet at all, we have a shit ton of infromation
more than we could ask for
so i just dont understand how people could complain
Everythings better with hindsight
Radio silence would be fine if it started right after the game was announced and not after almost a year of regular updates.
People being frustrated cause "they did too much marketing early on and then went silent" makes sense to me.
and having inured yourself to the situation over the last FIVE YEARS- you think one can make peace with that
Maybe at first glance until you understand that the goal of marketing is to draw new people in
the current state of affairs has been ongoing for quite some time
at one point the cormorant must surface from its hunt
Its a waste of time to give us regular updates (which would also ruin the surprises of the game) because if someone is making an effort to keep up with updates for this long they are probably already buying
it cannot stay underwater for so long
that's... true
whatre yall smoking today
silksong is a cormorant
but i know a chill ass cormorant that chills in ponds and eats stock fish- no needing to dive
Complaining about people
because he doesn't worry about such utter nonsense and takes the fish for what they are instead of pretending its what its not
that man is my new hero
sleep deprivation
i love these ugly mongrel birds
goodnight chat
night
The za
WHY IS HE IN THE CONTAINER
There is no air supply
cats generate their own air supply
which is a skill they developed purely to confound us- out of spite
average cat moment
They love them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FjGP4t2zKY
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Our cute cat loves itโs fish bowlโฆitโs so funny!
sometimes my cats use their air generation when tehy're right beside my face
and of course it comes out of their butts
if i gave midas a internet controlled feeder shed explode from food in a day
Garfield son or Adventure Time daughter
get them both just in case
Powdered rolling in his grave rn

?tag info polls
both are me ๐
Isn't it which you want
im alive you turd
What the. The evildoer
powdered died today... could he be the one responsible for the murder of nicole brown simpson 
i dont think i was alive yet
few days off i think
wait sorry got that backwards, i was like 3months old
Your almost thirty you can fall apart at any minute
Started at 3 months old, truly inspiring
literally do every day
Damn hes older than me
Man who tf made the human body, im tired of piloting this shit
True
SACABAPSIS FISH
When will we get the human body 2?
Zoro smiling this is not canon
joker foile a deux (2024)
When mommy and daddy love each other very much
The 64 new mutations every generation are the patch notes of the human body
@young breach i havent had a pc since minecraft was new 
#NotMyMarimo

@rustic ore whats that fishs actual name
Sacabambaspis
searching on mobile is so much worse now
ya
The ui engineers gotta maoe changes for the sake of it
hold on a sec...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQqfEirngkc
Hello! In this daily series I beat Lace everyday until SilkSong releases, enjoy watching;)
If they made a good ui and never had to do more changes theyd be fired
๐คทโโ๏ธ ๐ชฃ
and joker steals all my bans bc they made the mod stuff slower 
Hate ui designers

Balatro jokers?
Is that why you never ban me
Every ui change for any game makes it worse
Hired to make every edge round
i actually hit send 3 months ago, dyno hasnt caught up yet
Yall if dinosaurs were still around would we call them by their genus names, like Utahraptor or Seismosaurus, or would we give them common names like birds and stuff
Freakosaurus imo
Utahraptor is an awful name
What them arms do
def shorten most of them
Okay first of all fuck you
utah is cringe
Yes but Utahraptor isn't
Utah isn't too bad its just a lame name
"dance if you hear your state" "U T A H
"
Cat located?
UTAWN?
Utah has the pretty rocks and cool deserts
huh no i live in cali
But youre dancing
i was quoting a tiktok 
With some awesome forests up northeast. Its pretty great
even worse
Utah is me without the Utah and you replace that with me
even worse ร 3
Lookit those feet tippy-tappin away, them's the moves of a fullblooded Utahn
X3
if it's any consolation i'm latina/o i just live here
ctrl alt delete
I'd mention the mountains but us Utahns can't pronounce the word correctly 
i dont know how that fixes it, its state full of dumb rich folk
Latinys
luffy i know you're also iirc but i'm going to murder you
And now its GONE
too late
wasnt me
your sins are permanently recorded
You will be getting the dyno dm soon
do yall not consider that a slur? ik its new n all but in other communities its banned

it emphatically is not
I've never thought of it as a slur
it's technically not a slur but i really dislike it
but thats funny
it's not even in that conceptual space
I will now refer to it as a slur
Latinx is just a universal latino/latina that nobody likes using
Kill Kirb
i do have an actual question tho
why not just Latin?
or is that completely different
it's a term that only works in writing and isn't the preferred one that is very different from being a slur
I don't know how to say it irl
ech it sounds weird on the tongue too
Kleenex but hispanic
people ik more have greif with it being read as "latinks" and think its stupid
Thats funnier
iirc latinx was made by white people who wanted to be inclusive to people who don't identify as male of female but it's just pretty eugh
Lay tinx
it's certainly stupid, but I never read it as a pejorative
that wasn't the origin of the term
i did not in fact rc ๐
Kid named pee clipse
corpse formerly called kirbstar
it did see wider adoption outside of spanish speaking communities but afaik it did originate there
Huhhh
ah
Also lantinx is the tip of the iceberg of the whole attitude of English changing the Spanish language which people get really passionate about
My buenos
terremoto heights 
fair, our language is fucked enough, it shouldnt spread
did that show even release
every language is being heavily influenced by english at all times, that's not necessarily something to be upset about it's just a fact of the way the global communications structures are
I dunno teasers usually show a while before release
As a white person it is my moral obligation to colonize everything and I expect you to respect that culture ๐
The same way I will fail to respect yours
powder would it be wrong to call someone gringo in a light-hearted jokey way or is that too much
As an asian person i must apologize for all the asian people who were not good in the past
nah lets activate the grand unification of language but make the language the beatboxing noises from the post office scene of MiB2
We should communicate with bird songs
what was the plot of that movie again
I only rember 1 and 3
i dont know who thats even targeting
Me I think
white people
Yippee!!!
sexy plant lady
K retired but they needed him and had to reboot his memories
Men in Black was like the Matrix where there really only needed to be one movie
Men in Black 2: More Men, More Black
MIB international best movie >>>
Thor Ragnarok run offf
banning you rn
Bee Movie 2: Beeing yourself
I mean sure but thatโs not the best advice for someone whoโs a bit prideful about the language
but the first 3 are still good in both
they certainly have good scenes
I dont care if they get angry ots the truth!
but I attribute that to good foundation
it's also not really a spanish word nor used as one by english speakers
hey luffy let's fuck 'im up
loanwords from a language stop being lexical items in that language
constantly rejecting michael jackson as an agent was the most based scene
its like how half the xmen movies suck but they all have good scenes buried in them
Among us chair
The New Mutants doesn't have good scenes but they did a really good Magik
new mutants? a live action?
idk which one that is, the names are a blur
Any good movies this year
uh
This venom
there are no movies coming out
it was the last Fox made xmen movie
I mean actual movjes not anime
it was released in pandemic era and bombed if it's any indication
Wtf saving this
ah never saw it
no one did
the fox xmen were really hit or miss
but they made the best superhero movie
yeah but thats when you narrow it down to the single word, like the controversy is silly but again in the topic im saying, the broader context is why folks are weird with it
x-men origins wolverine ๐ช ๐ช ๐ช
watch Pulp Fiction
venom kiss gif
guh
the broader context of wanting 'linguistic purity' in some sense is also kind of just misinformed at best
Ooo that's a good 1
language eugenics 
yeah
i love movies, on my birthday i hope to go marathon some stuff. spend all day at the theater. been years since i got to do that, idk if anything good is playing tho
ghostbusters 4
anything good*
when is your birthday
26th
garfield
I also wanna watch The Thing
the Ghibli movies will be at AMC around then
I always go to the movies with my father
good *
Always a good time
peak
The big short, you cab learn about the market crash
HELL YES
GARFIELD IS GOOD FIGHT ME
/uj nah garfield is meh but i like to joke about it 
I liked the live action one as a kid where there was a fancy garfield
Bill Murray Garfield
these ss-disc people can't recognize kino when they see it ๐
allegedly
maybe he feels a kinship with the character
maybe you feel a kinship with a large anvil over your head
not if i unhinge my jaw face up and open it real big
Mewing streak unbroken
meow
woof
mrrp
squeek
Burp
your ass is not the simpon
what does the fox say
it says it's going to get a lawyer if you damn paparazzi don't go away
why is he so happy
Why aren't you as happy
reasons 
Wonder what skins people are going to make for hornet when silksong drops
sans undertale
spiderverse only stuff
clown nose and hair is quintessential
thats gonna be ingame already
Jester Crest
Would be insanely funny if there is a clown wig in game
Hornet having actual customization would be cool
With her cloak being an aactual item in game it might be possible
this is why they are late
it's because they planned the last few months to add cosmetics but then they kept adding more and now there is 257 cosmetics and different colours of them ๐
hey i check like once a year, is silksong out yet
You'd get a ping in #hk-announcements
fuck
Did you look
Honestly I wish they'd ping for more stuff
I miss people getting needlessly upset at fangamer merch drops
how did you even buy lethal company being that unaware lol
Hey guys im stuck at lace sentinel 2 any tips on how to beat it
you can parry the i-am-the-storm-that-is-approaching attack
Oh wow thanks
iirc you hop on a better game (EG, Hyper Light Drifter)
HLD is actually goated
Its even on 60% sale 
Hyper Light Breaker is coming out too, but honestly I preferred to the 2D pixel art
It took my eyes a second to load your profile picture it was literally just green and yellow up until that happened
I prefer HLD more but I don't mind the aesthetic being brought to 3d
If it allows them to be more creative gameplay wise then they should do whatever they want
But yeah 3D Unity art just canโt beat the first gameโs visuals
is that a slime rancher pfp
They made some art for the upcoming Earth Day
I think this is the second time in just a few weeks that I yap about HLD in this channel
wha
thatโs so cute omds
I'll never miss up an opportunity to recommend HLD
what is hld
HOLY SHIT ITS WALL E
itโs on game pass should i give it a shot
Honestly up there with Hollow Knight in terms of just how good it is
Fs check it out
iโll install it
everyone here knows about wall e right
Wordless storytelling is a weakness of mine in visual media
obv
People talk too much in movies nowadays
Childhood classic right there
This also mean it hardly interrupts the player
Which is nice. I like just existing in the world
Exactly
the screenshots look beautiful but i have a feeling itโs hard
Its got some difficulty but the respawn system is very lenient
Yeah thatโs the big thing
As in you respawn in the room you died in
No bullshit backtracking after you die like in HK
ah niceee
I like the corpse run mechanic in theory but damn in practice is it horrible 9/10 times
||The Bow Boss
||
HK did it fine for the most part imo
The Soul Sanctum was kinda egregious but I didn't have many issues with it for the other bosses
on my first play through it just felt tedious cus i was shit
If you play FROM Software games HK is a cakewalk but holy crap, playing HK for the first time back in 2017, I hated the death system
is this a channel discussion for a game that doesnt exist? wtf
||dude is a NIGHTMARE on NG+ too||
It exists, I played it today
if something exists from this game its a 3minutes demo from 8 years ago
even black myth wu kong is launchin
kkkkkkkkkkk
I remember when there was a legitimate discussion about what would release first: Elden Ring, Tears of the Kingdom, and Silksong.
2020 type shit
they are not making this shitty game, get over it and go play something else, dont expect nothing from tc
Obvious troll is obvious
true
like Outer Wilds
Like... damn people they're not serious
even a guy with only 2 fingers on his hand could finish this game on 7 years, what a joke this is a metroidvania, not gt6
double negative 
Iโm saying, thereโs gonna be team death match in Silksong, trust
should i do newcomer or is it too easy
you made your joke you can stop now
Shit memes are shit
hey, shitposts go in #hk-meme
Thus they ran away
Kappa? Oh God a twitch nerd
Or double down
Bro got sorted like clean laundry lmao
oh right, window did you notice bungie is copying peak? theyre making a Pantheon raid boss-rush



What even are trolls
lol this discord is like 7 years old
I @ simo when I saw the name
who da f gives money to people by watching them playing video games and suckin at it bro
Magical creatures from lord of the rings I think
kkkkkkkkkkkkk twitch 2024
i wish the reveal the other day was a livestream i was bout to be a clown in that chat
lol? i think trolls are a litle more older boy
what is this opening cutscene bruh
to what
to hld
idk, i never booted it up lol
Itโs dope as hell
you're never gonna find out
big ass mechs and then dog
HLD opening cutscene > HK opening cutscene
its peak 
me with like 30 games on this ps4, played: 5

here's the games I've played this year
Basically the story is ripping off nausicaa of the valley of the wind
a difficult game about climbing
Is that its name 
Strand type game 
wait really now I have to play hld
Yeah bro, corrupted forest, apocalypse from giant evil mechs, uuuhhhh, thatโs about it
The story is looser than HKโs, on account of there not being any fucking words in it
well maybe I'll start it this weekend when I have a chance to
The only difference is that Nausicaa is a Disney princess and the HLD main character is a hobo with heart disease
Which btw, Tammo have you read the Nausicaรค manga?
no but I do want to
Bro
I've read a bit about it and it sounds wild
The movie is good but the manga blows that shit out of the water
ik ik
Lowkey it might be better than any of Miyazakiโs movies, which is high praise coming from me since Iโm a Ghibli nut
Also the movie only adapts like 1/5 of the full story
Update: I have finally beat the boss and now I am doing zote's fathers sidequest
Oh shit, the Pale King is in Silksong?
I dont know this guy is in a cloak. He says he used to be a part of some sort of gang.
i love when games give you a good look of a distant city 
Hollow Knight: Silksong, in which Hornet runs coke for the Crips
Actually she wears red so they would probably shoot her, nvm
she slays
imo imo
the one time she tries to stab a guy she gets stopped ๐
can you even say there is a difference, then?
she slays in spirit ๐
Read the manga
this game is so pretty
Itโs great
nausica has a manga?
The ost by Disasterpeace is fantastic too
i need it
I have the box set
give it here
unfortunately itโs 2:15 am so i gotta go now bye 
I want to
unironically had a double take
was thinking, mr john elden eing himself made books?
Iirc it was a manga before it was a movie; one day Iโd like to get my hands on it lmao
Everyone in chat can take turns borrowing my copy
I was so confused at first hearing โMiyazakiโ when people were talking about Elden Ring before realizing it was just a different guy who happened to have the same name 
The two Miyazakiโs are complete opposites, itโs so funny
Beautiful world of magic and wonder or horrifying world of horror and hopelessness
And both are the best in their respective fields tbh
what is elden ring myazaki's opinion on the beatles
โRingo has the best singing voice out of all of the Beatlesโ
He said that word for word actually
as a whole though
To really complete it, itโd be funny if it was a dynamic like ghibli Miyazaki and Junji Ito where one creates whimsical and fantastical worlds but is frankly kinda an ass irl, and the other creates dark and twisted realities but is a whimsical mf irl
He said he prefers Radiohead I think
because if he likes them it'll be like this but with two miyazakis
REAL
Miyazaki has some unsavory moments, mostly with his son, but beyond that he kinda cooks when talking about everything else, his assessment of the anime industry is spot on
Iโd rather some be grumpy and be right and be super happy but have nothing to say (at least in regards to artists I donโt personally know)
yay!
Iโve said it before, but Hayao Miyazaki to me seems to be a man who can be very blunt, both for better or for worse
Yeah, heโs definitely too hard on his son, but tbf his son is not nearly as good of a director as he is
Though maybe one could argue thatโs partially due to less than ideal guidance
ytueee
Also his movies slap so who cares if heโs sometimes an asshole


meanwhile, junji ito
he's a barbie girl in a junji ito world
I will say though, since so many people expressed and interest in the Nausicaรค manga, itโs definitely a lot darker than any of his movies
A lot of his nihilistic feelings on humanity and environmentalism come through a lot more strongly, likely because unlike his movies, the manga is 100% made by him
I mean, Nausicaa is already one of ghibliโs darker movies so tbh thatโs to be expected
And also doesnโt have to be censored for film audiences
Yeah makes sense
True, but it has a straight up Disney ass ending, which was not Miyazakiโs choice. The ending of the movie ends at the 20% point of the manga, and things get crazy is all Iโll say
Ngl I may have spoiled myself on perhaps some big plot stuff via some wiki but itโs also been a while so idk
Damn
Well itโs still such a great story that thereโs a lot to get out of it even if you know the plot
Bad stories are stories that have no value once you know what happens
But honestly Iโve come to realize that even if a spoiler is unideal tbh it probably wonโt affect my enjoyment of the media; after all, if a story is irreversible ruined by a spoiler, is it that strong of a story? 
Thatโs what Iโm saying
unless it's like fundamentally a mystery story I don't find spoilers to generally be that bad
and sometimes it makes it easier to appreciate the overarching narrative while you're in it to have some sense of where it's going
Something Iโve come to really value in my games or movies or whatever is rewatchability or replayability or whatnot
Even a good mystery should have something to offer upon rereading
sure but there it's "ok what did I miss" which is fundamentally a different approach than the initial reading
Well thatโs part of what I mean, a bad mystery catches you by surprise because of bullshit, but a good mystery can make you go โooooooh shit, that was right in front of my noseโ when you reread it
And honestly it doesnโt have to be a mystery to have that quality, Attack on Titan was the same when I rewatched it for the first time, I was having my mind blown every other episode by a character saying some shit that made me realize how far in advance everything was planned.
Then you have kino like Columbo where the whodunnit is revealed at the start and the fun comes from seeing how Columbo tortures his victims
Same with music, great music gets better the more you listen to it
Which actually makes me curious, what artists do yโall listen to?
Not me listening to the same song on loop for hours
For the record my use of โtortureโ here is metaphorical, Iโll admit I havenโt watched a ton of Columbo but Iโm not aware of any times he waterboards anyone
CIA type anime
Did you just call Columbo an anime???
Itโs like an American live-action crime drama thingy from like the 70โs
Damn
Iโm gonna guess a lot of videogame OSTs
My music tastes be eclectic as shit; one moment Iโm listening to lemon demon or whatever, the next some video game stuff, the next Mussorgsky, the next big-name music from like 70โs-80โs or whatever, so on and so forth. The baseline for my interest in music is โdo I vibe with it in any way shape or form? Yes? Then it goodโ
Fair enough
I mean thatโs not too crazy, I think most people are a mix of random bullshit with one or two artists they return to a little more often than the others
I just have a playlist filled with random shit that I put on when I walk
sollow snight
Yo who has any idea when ss comes out
We don't know yet
yes but we're not going to tell you
POWER OF FRIENDSHIP TRULY IS THE BEST NARRATIVE WRITING IN ALL FICTION
the knight literally defeats the radiance with the power of friendship
โUm actually it uses the power of the Void unified under its will ๐คโ
Today we are reviewing our 413th ss-discussion quote
i mean hornet
Oh okay
more like fraternity
โUm actually theyโre not friends, Hornet just cares about ending the infection ๐คโ
They have sibling rivalry
What was happening between the king and herrah tho (was the white lady a side character)
White Lady was the kingโs wife, Herrah was his side chick
So friendship
Nah, the Pale king was Herrahโs side man
What do you mean your friendships arenโt forced and toxic???
Who was herrahs husband then?
Whats going on here?
Heโs dead
Talking about pale king horny adventures?
I didnโt ask if he was alive I asked who he was
I mean actually maybe she never had one
king of deepnest
They made a deal
Herrah would become a dreamer
PK would do the deed with her
no we hear about a king of deepnest, but he's deffinitely dead
When do we hear about him?
shrumal lore tablet
Once of honoured caste is kinda interesting
what if
crazy idea
they just meant pale king
Not the sire of deepnest
You disagreed on video game lore with me you should leave the discord
It is kinda weird hornet was herrahs only kid
Considering they had royalty, no probably not
Dont spiders lay eggs that have like hundreds of babies?
"their sire" means the king of deepnest was real
he sired one child and brokered peace, makes more sense than a total unkown imo
ok but, read it as if it describes hornets life
well they lay eggs into cocoon-ish things and... i forget
but spiders are weird
Hornet, a twisting, scratching thingโฝ
Spiders are cool
Egg sacks
they freak me out, less than other people but i dont want to touch them
Yeah they can do like 30 eggs per sac
wont kill one though
hornet drill mode = twisting
scratching = spider legs
not real ones
Spider eggs are more akin to what we find with the vessels born in
you might be onto something โ๏ธ
But hornet is only one thing
Why would they say things
Sheโs schizophrenic
Also wouldn't that require knowledge of the pks death?
Feel like that was supposed to be very specifically hidden
Also, once of honoured caste
The once doesn't make sense if it's the pale king
me praying for it being a grimm referance:
would be rly funny
be really lame
ig so
Fact
yea but that would seem op ingame imo
Pale king, sire of deepest's horrors
Spawn too many weaverlings
would kinda just have to be weaversong on crack
fr
Thatโs what Iโm saying
spawn so many weaverlings you crash the boss's wifi 
its common knowledge PK is just fucking gone, knowing hes dead is a logical assumption and just a 50/50 guess without any info. plus shrooms mock him enough already i can see this meaning PK
Also where is that lore table thing
I mean sure? But just kindve feels like a stretch yknow
๐คฆโโ๏ธ
deepnest fungal tablet it says on the bottom
thats what im saying ๐ฏ๐ฅ
Iโll find it myself
Plus I feel like the pale king is more than an honored caste
im sure someone has a vid of every lore tablet lol
He was a fucking god for millions of bugs
Relyea probs has a vid
i just think its alot weirder for Herra to have a dead husband that wasnt considered a beast, and simultaneously have no info on him
was legit typing that but changed it LMAO
๐
I have been thoroughly bested, well done
I would say its quite possible something that was just not included due to time and budget constraints originally and maybe planned for the hornet dlc
didnt the pale king and herra only get together because he wanted a legitimate child?
I feel like the king of deepnest is either something we won't ever know, or something that will be touched up on in silksong
Honoured caste could mean pharloom high society, which he would have left to go to hallownest, meaning he was once of honoured caste
She wanted a kid
also the mushrooms didnt join hallownest,honored caste is the best compliment theyll give him
No, because she wanted a child of high birth
The pale king could give less of a shit about offspring
All the others were disappointments
Lmao
no bc herra wanted one,so he sired one
pure vessel:
definition of angel child right there ๐ฅ
One out of possible millions
Yeah we donโt talk about him
The chosen vessel was a pretty good child methinks
Whoโs done pantheon 5
which one? the knight or pure vessel?
Pure vessel
me, why
Pure vessel
The knight is just some rando vessel
Iโm struggling
Yeah we see he did somewhat actually care about the hollow knight but I dont think he would ever really want a heir
The knight wasnโt chosen
He probably thought heโd live forever
His whole philosophy of an enternal kingdom doesnt much require an heir
ig not chosen, but t'was its destiny to take the infection from the hollow knight and become the next vessel for radiace so idk
How did it escape the abyss
Yeah and he probably would've
he wouldnt give up his throne he needs to feel above others 
Not itโs, tโwas the Hollow Knightโs, and it failed
ye and after failing isnt that like- the whole reason the knight came back to hallownest
He was a god
to become the next vessel (infected/sealed siblings endings)
Having a reason implies thought
Yeah other than the pk we dont exactly see a god dying in game
true
How did the knight climb out of the abyss and then just wander to howling cliffs
Was pk a god tho
We can beat the radiance in dream no more but that seems more like the void just consuming her
Not elaborated on
We know several vessels did escape the abyss on their own
By all definitions that dude was a deity
Broken vessel, the knight and thatโs a bout it
idk man how did salubra not get semi-infected like sly
questions we dont need answers to
"Born of god and void"
secret tunnel
likely an opening to stagways somewhere
isnt that saying about the vessels tho
Yeah and the vessels are constantly referred to as higher beings
god and void as in the void in the vessels, and pk is the god
The vessel in the hornet arena that drops the mothwing cloak
The many vessels in the nosk arena
yeah.. the parents being gods
The king is just a worm
broken vessel didnt escape g
Would the vessels be like 150% god?
Worms can see the futureโฝ
What
broken vessel did escape
Made of 2 deities and an acient weird all consuming power
Exactly
50% god: pk, 50% void: their shades
all vessels putside the abyss that arent THK escaped
Child of 2 gods, killed and gutted and possessed by the void
and then died tho, or am i dumb and just got infected
Who is this now
You donโt wanna know
ok bye
Literally every vessel
He got infected
also are we counting the vessel(s) hornet commited mass genocide in greenpath as esacped?
died
Ah
@shell yacht ?
every vessel
bc they technically escaped
Died
Broken vessel isn't infected until the knight enters the arena and the light seeds enter it
I thought they were just people
no hornet kills vessels i forgor why tho
i think to test if theyre worthy or sm shit
the door was locked behind THK and never reopened, all vessels outside are escapees
Like at first I thought elderbug was a vessel then I realised he just a dude
The vessels are visually distinct from almost every bug in hallownest
The closest thing to the vessels that isn't one is zote
ok but hear me out
what the hell is zote
Zote and elderbug are the only ones that look like vessels
shes not testimg vessels, shes exterminating them so they dont fuck up the seals
elderbug doesnt imo
Good point
zotes just an old guy
Vaguely
Like elderbug
meh
Zote's an old guy with parent issues
The knight is an old thing with parent issues
Zote could be anything but he does have a mouth
i think no matter what zote and elderbug are the same species
For some reason all wyrm spawns do not have mouths
not vessels tho
lore related i forgor why its in a tablet tho
There is more than one?
no voice to cry suffering or smth
Higher being are gods, they talk by telepathy
every vessel is a wyrm spawn-
the pk is a wyrm-
No thats just the void fucking them up
Vessels just dont talk
they have mouths, you just dont see it
The pale king could definitely talk
I
lol
Hornet could also talk
hornets a spider
I broke ok
they do not
Yea but still the pale King's child
not a vessel tho so it doesnt matter
