sk-discussion

[cerulean sable]

yeah yeah

but yeah the newer colors are starting to grow on me

it reminds me of the New Vegas situation, with the yellow/brown tint and all that

to give it a western feel but like a lot of weather and visual mods' first MO is to remove it

[torpid orchid]

orange is the color of infection in hk, but I guess there is no specific color for enemies in silksong.

[cerulean sable]

but after several playthroughs, i do KINDA miss it 🥴

and I can see the arguement that it does make the colors pop out more

[half arrow]

Its just... Perfect

Little changes for better

That's what they said, the game wouldn't come out until it was perfectly made, and they felt it surpassed Hollow Knight.

[nimble radish]

great now I'm excited for silksong again

[half arrow]

Xd

[modest night]

Hey guys

[iron spear]

@cerulean sable i wouldnt put too much into the colour grading thing

video encoding and trailer editing can mess with that stuff

it doesnt neccaseraliy mean it has changed

[opaque sigil]

I think to some extent that's kind of what people assumed when it came to the xbox trailer

[cerulean sable]

man ok

you reminded me of the 2018 color wars

[iron spear]

hahahahah

[cerulean sable]

"WHY IS COT BLUER???"

[iron spear]

hoyl shit hahaha blast from the past

[cerulean sable]

"IS IT ME OR DID CROSSROADS BECOME MORE GREY???"

[iron spear]

that girl Flowers

[opaque sigil]

damn I can't find the deep docks comparison 😔

[cerulean sable]

mannn

[iron spear]

was going insane over the lifeblood changes

[cerulean sable]

and the inevitable color "fix"

[half arrow]

Hey

[cerulean sable]

goddamn this took me back

[young saffron]

the sudden burst in SS disc is amazing lol

[iron spear]

THE INFECTION PARTICLES HAVE CHANGED!!!

[cerulean sable]

I DO NOT LIKE HOW MUCH GREENER FUNGAL WASTE IS NOW

MAYBE THESE CHANGES WERE ADDED TO ADD SATURATION BECAUSE OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT THE GAME IS TOO BLUE

man that war lasted 3 days

[half arrow]

Lol

[iron spear]

there actually was a bit of a color shift to be fair. It was actually because of the switch. The original shaders used in pre lifeblood builds were not compatible with the switch

so the new shaders did shift the colors a small amount

[cerulean sable]

yeah it was noticeable, but people were half half with the reasons

like one camp was cuz yeah like you said, the need to port it to Switch caused it

[fresh pollen]

Palatal consonant reference

[iron spear]

its actually unitys fault really (they have since fixed it with the appropriately named UNIVERSAL render pipline)

[cerulean sable]

then on the other half you had the "this is intentional change to add more color to game and frankly i like it/dislike as it removes original™️ artistic intent"

[cerulean sable]

forgot but did they have to upgrade the Unity version then?

all i know is the shift to 2020 recently

which entailed 1.5

[iron spear]

man i read so many completely serious comments stated as fact about the dev process of HK and silksong that i know are 100% wrong and it makes me think.,.. no one ever knows what they are talking about on any subject lol

So the consoles themselves force unity updates

they will say we only allow LTS version X or newer

so TC have to update as they go

all devs have to

[coarse leaf]

1.5 is still confusing to me in general, like, why

[cerulean sable]

yeah but graig they know what theyre talking about because theyve 1. watched enough youtube essays that throws enough jargon for 6 hours straight 2. see point 1

[half arrow]

Yes that is proof enough

[cerulean sable]

like on surface you have people constantly complaining that if theres a bug its QA's fault, disregarding the fact that QA can report the issue but it would be deemed as low priority, then its not getting fixed

"lazy devs" included

[formal karma]

Mhmmm lazy devs

[cerulean sable]

lazy devs and outdated game design are two of my most hated fucking words used by the internet nowadays

[formal karma]

Let's just be happy that TC don't have to bow to a publisher (that we know of anyways)

[cerulean sable]

bugs? lazy devs
feature i dislike? intentional sabotage to the gameplay / outdated game design

[coarse leaf]

The HK modding scene is proof that people have no goddamn idea what good game design is

[formal karma]

My most hated word is cyberpunk

[coarse leaf]

Ignoring the small handful of mods that arent garbage

[opaque sigil]

tc made the shade system bad because they specifically hate me

[half arrow]

I hate internet people, not all just those who speak arrogantly and have no idea what they are saying

[formal karma]

In the context that people compare silksong to cyberpunk with NO understanding

[half arrow]

I have heard worse things unfortunately

[fresh pollen]

Any game that takes time is either in development hell or abandoned

[formal karma]

I am sure but cyberpunk paradox occurs consistently

[half arrow]

that and the people who "left team Cherry" have caused silksong to arrive later, which is so stupid that it makes me want to burn the internet

[iron spear]

the problem with gamers is most of them are very young

[formal karma]

At least ive never seen that one

[cerulean sable]

this is so fucking true

[iron spear]

and have literally no idea what its like running a project

[formal karma]

Or how life works in general

It just makes sense for tc to show a trailer at x event

[iron spear]

they straight up dont understand that you only have limited time and money to make an indie game. Saying completely idiotic things like lazy devs etc

[formal karma]

It. Just. Makes. Sense.

[cerulean sable]

ive been gaming long enough that 4-5 feels like average to me at this point, then i see a bunch of players thinking this is the next dev hell game and im lke buddy, usually when i see big AAA game even, i expect 3-4 at the minimum just to be safe

[iron spear]

MAJORITY of the time you have to choose where to put your time and effort

[cerulean sable]

i mean tbf these are the same people who eventually tries to get into the industry with an open world (does everything) style of game

[iron spear]

you cant just, fix all bug lmao

[formal karma]

4-5 years.... but I think the greater context is 3 people

[cerulean sable]

especially sometimes youll see in r/gamedev

[opaque sigil]

which go oh so well

[cerulean sable]

"im making my first game, heres [a list of incredibly unrealistic scope of features]"

[formal karma]

Reddit? Ahaahahahahaaha

[iron spear]

haha yeash

like a 10 year old desinging a super hero. HE HAS ALL THE POWERS

[half arrow]

literally, (I'm 17 in a few weeks) and I find people my age who are throwing shit at games for having x bugs or that a game "takes too long to release" my pal, you have no fucking idea

[formal karma]

Let's remake the entire globe to play in- what a Kickstart goal that's entirely plausible

[cerulean sable]

DONT GET ME STARTED
on those "i am willing to make a team" but then the post implies that theyll be the quasi director style role that says "this is good/this is bad/add this/add that"

[cyan forum]

GOOOD MOOORNING FARLOOOM

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-badass-ride-of-the-valkyrie-zoom-gif-19070801

[half arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-end-the-end-is-near-simpsons-homer-simpson-end-of-the-world-gif-5236371

[cerulean sable]

its why so many fucking gamedev tutorials always preface the "do not make your dream game on your first try, hell not even your second" point

[iron spear]

wow i cant belive this game isnt 100% bug free and not 500 hours of unique game play. We demand more! Oh also how dare you crunch devs 100 hours a week!!

[cerulean sable]

"1 YEAR OF DEV = 50 HOUR OF NEW CONTENT RIGHT"

[fresh pollen]

I just assumed all devs started by making like a billion small games as practice before actually making a big game

[cerulean sable]

meanwhile in actuality "oh btw this feature broke the other new feature, so either we rewrite that portion to the ground up or we decide not to use it at all"

[iron spear]

Then some complete idiot from management tells everyone its time to add multiplayer

[coarse leaf]

the expectations of some consumers, and then also the outrage on the industry being build upon crunching is hilarious, go pick one maybe

[fresh pollen]

Then again, I'm not a dev

[cyan forum]

little nightmares took like multiple years from a decent sized studio with big-shot funding. and it's like 4 hours

[cerulean sable]

like disclaimer, i have 0 gamedesign experience except outside modding, but one of the biggest key exp i had was often times without proper planning, 80% of the features you include that you think is cool is immediately met with "you know what, this feature fucking sucks, why did i even implement it" then you scrap it entirely

[cyan forum]

and despite that it's one of my favorite games of all time

[iron spear]

ive been tangetly in the scene now for about 7 years and have heard many many horror stories of managment completely fucking up a project

[opaque sigil]

the spec ops: the line multiplayer

[coarse leaf]

Gotta make it live service

[cerulean sable]

wasnt that an early 2010 game disease

like tacked on multiplayer

[iron spear]

There is a reason game devs are turing indie en masse

[cerulean sable]

in CODs situation today its the opposite, the campaign is usually an afterthought

[half arrow]

I hate when they say that, because THERE IS NO NEED TO ADD MULTIPLAYER, PLUS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM ACCORDING TO THE STORY AND IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO IT

[opaque sigil]

well yeah but in that case it's basically the exact thing the game was trying to critique

[cerulean sable]

yeah yeah true lmao

[opaque sigil]

just slapped on uncritically

[iron spear]

AAA studios are riddled with cooperate idiots who dont know anything about games, but for some reason their ideas are valued higher than the people who know.

and then you get Gollum

[coarse leaf]

Gollum, leaving all sarcasm behind, was actually tragic

[cerulean sable]

yeah i remember reading a dev who said "you have to understand, everytime you hear a shit feature, most of us dont want it in the first place. as obvious as it sounds devs dont want to make a bad game"

[half arrow]

I mean I like online games, like splatoon, but damn

[coarse leaf]

That studio made good games, then did something completely different to everything they had ever done using a ridiculously big IP, and then shutdown

[cerulean sable]

but unfortunately, a lot of the audience doesnt really care

its extremely easy to say "if i was in your place i wouldve done this instead"

[iron spear]

i can tell you with 100% certainty that the devs were not the problem on something like gollum

[coarse leaf]

That was 100% mismanagement hell, and it caused a good studio to die

[iron spear]

yeah exactly

[half arrow]

I really don't know who was in charge of the game xd

[cerulean sable]

and you know one mans trash is another mans treasure and all that

whats funny is if they WERE theoretically given reigns, most likely that not theyll have the same detractor comments telling them "why did you do this and that, if I was in YOUR place I wouldve..."

[iron spear]

Im gonna say a random comittee

[half arrow]

and that's when I answer them, "if you know so much, make a mod"

[iron spear]

to have an IP like LOTR and fuck it up is only something corperate dickheads could pull off

[coarse leaf]

I dont understand how gollum was ever greenlit, i also really dont understand how you then give that project to the studio that does point and clicks for heavens sak

[half arrow]

Yeah, its sad

[formal karma]

Let's blame the fans

That was Witcher but still

[coarse leaf]

Nah dont forget rings of power

They pulled the same thing

[formal karma]

Did they blame the fans?

[coarse leaf]

Yes

[formal karma]

Dang- but ig I was right

[coarse leaf]

One of the big things was raceswapping characters/races ( for no reason ), and then just calling all criticism racism afterwards

[iron spear]

I could make an incredibly good Gollum game

hes actually a really fleshed out character

[formal karma]

Maaaaaan taking named characters, ruining them and then killing them was so wack

[coarse leaf]

Honestly, a gollum game isnt that easy tho, we know broadly what he did, it really wasnt very much lol

[iron spear]

I would frame it as his slow decent into insanity, almost like a silent hill game

[coarse leaf]

He just chilled in a cave for 300 years

[iron spear]

the ring just strips everything from him

[formal karma]

Gollum game was a GREAT concept but it failed... conceptually is that makes any sense

[cerulean sable]

im too lazy to edit, but this but the text bubble is replaced with "why didnt they just do x, if i was on hold of the project i wouldve easily made a better game"

[iron spear]

till he is just a forsaken creature living in the dark

[coarse leaf]

Yeah youd need to really go into the psychological aspect of it

[iron spear]

end the game with Bilbo approaching him

[formal karma]

Showing his actual 'friendship" with shelob

[coarse leaf]

You do have some wiggle room, even when holding true to the lore, but its still not easy to make good gameplay out of

[formal karma]

His post bilbo would be easier I think

Shoutout to auto correct things to make bilbo into bimbo

[coarse leaf]

Definitely, although you only really have the way to mordor, and the way to moria there before just having to follow the movies

[cerulean sable]

hear me out

[iron spear]

Yeah maybe post bilbo

[cerulean sable]

GOLLUM...

A TELLTALE STORY

[iron spear]

so it shows him REALLLY losing it cos he lost the ring

[opaque sigil]

tbh that wouldn't be the worst format to go for

[coarse leaf]

He gets captured by the elves for a bit aswell( so he can get questioned by gandalf) thats actually in gollum funnily enough

[fresh pollen]

Gollum fps game

[brittle garnet]

Clearly it'd be like a stealth game

[opaque sigil]

it would kind of have to be if there are any enemies present narratively

which is the angle they went with for the game afaik

[coarse leaf]

Yup

[modest night]

fishing minigame..

[fresh pollen]

Fast paced, over the top, exactly like lord of the rings was

[coarse leaf]

I havent finished gollum so i cant 100% put it in the timeline, but its somewhere after being tortured in barad-dùr im p sure

[iron spear]

I would have a full torture scene where the elves torture Gollum. Basically I would want the player to constantly be walking the line of both feeling sorry for Gollum and hating him. Just as Tolkien would have wanted

[formal karma]

Did the elves torture him?

I know Sharon did- personally, maybe

[coarse leaf]

They didnt

[opaque sigil]

ah yes, Sharon

[formal karma]

Sharon! Fucking auto correct

[coarse leaf]

He actually was able to escape because they treated him too nicely basically iirc

[formal karma]

Oh... he's so much less intimidating as Sharon

[coarse leaf]

Sharon the old scallywag did tho yeah

[coarse leaf]

"In the days of fair weather we led Gollum through the woods; and there was a high tree standing alone far from the others which he liked to climb. Often we let him mount up to the highest branches, until he felt the free wind;", thats the beginning of his escape story as told by legolas

[vivid crag]

Maybe silksong was the friends we made along the way

[formal karma]

Maybe the memes were dead all along

[iron spear]

I found this old pic i had of TC office https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/283467363729408000/313934355640614913/IMG_20170516_163104.jpg?ex=661e22a7&is=660bada7&hm=dc5138decf41f02c7dcfe9f22fb8b1a3f5e57254320a750564a6ff20a6bb36a5&=&format=webp&width=1992&height=1120

I posted years ago, working on Grimm Troupe I think?

[wide quartz]

im gonna try and restart elden ring :0

[formal karma]

That looks depressing- get them walls some drip with today's sponsor Displate

[coarse leaf]

have fun

[wide quartz]

i got about 75% a few months ago but then quit cause i didnt like my build

[cerulean sable]

WTF THEY HAVE CASTLEVANIA

TU DU, DUDUDUDU

[coarse leaf]

What were you using?

[silver oak]

Any silkers in chat

[forest isle]

SS was too easy. Any info on HK: Zote Dynasty?

[wide quartz]

fat curved greatsword build

[fresh pollen]

Print out a funny meme and hang it on the wall

Example

[wide quartz]

ive read up a bit on not being a beginner

[fresh pollen]

I'm silking hard rn

[wide quartz]

and i think ill go for medium melee with incantations

[iron spear]

I think william is litterally working of NKG FSM in that pic

[forest isle]

actually you can manipulate marionette with singular string

[iron spear]

EVERYONES FAVE BOSS RIGHT????

[fresh pollen]

The f is fsm

[wide quartz]

thats not manipulating thats shaking something around

[coarse leaf]

Holy shit, hes making it like a dance in that very pic

[opaque sigil]

that looks fun, I just wish the whiteboard was clearer

[forest isle]

As long as it doing what I want to, singular string will do just fine

[wide quartz]

[iron spear]

heh first he teleports in. Heh. then do attack

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[fresh pollen]

Sorry, grey prince zote and pure vessel take that cake

[wide quartz]

why is the grey prince zote not grey, is he stupid?

[sage void]

i see that samus fig

also gm everyone

[wide quartz]

hi agent

[lament coyote]

me

[cerulean sable]

graig

i know youre not at liberty to say

but is it possible for TC to ad a 5v5 competitive mode

[tawdry valley]

Grimm Troupe

[iron spear]

That board has all the ideas for the DLCs on it

So silksong stuff though, im sorry

[tawdry valley]

Yuck, silksong news

[iron spear]

HK moba incoming

[cerulean sable]

FINALLY

[sage void]

[tawdry valley]

If blizzard could keep Overwatch running TC can make Zote a bard

[iron spear]

wait till you see hornets zote

[cerulean sable]

please let them be killable please let them be killable please let them be killable please let them be killable

[iron spear]

im gonna add all the mods on here into roc

just a random room full of weirdos

[cerulean sable]

also hornet having more sass brings me delight

yeah and its mostly cuz of zliant ha gottme

[iron spear]

zaliants more like, simos best mate

[charred pulsar]

Zal I Ant

[iron spear]

i wonder what he did to "earn" admin 😉 gamergate 3.0

OH FUCK ITS SIMO

[charred pulsar]

[opaque sigil]

every npc should be killable, even plot necessary ones

[cerulean sable]

only those who dont have polearms

[tawdry valley]

New Vegas was so close to being perfect

[opaque sigil]

I think outer worlds lets you kill everybody

shame it's mediocre in every other respect

[silver oak]

you should pay me for this unless it makes you change your mind in which case I will pay you for this

[tawdry valley]

Unfortunately Yes man has infinite bodies, and you can’t kill kids because you’d then technically be able to [Health regen perk] them

[iron spear]

im also going to add legacy mods

[tawdry valley]

How are you gonna claim royalties on a blue jellyfish

[iron spear]

like window

where the fuck is jonny

[silver oak]

gone for months

[cerulean sable]

graig do you think TC has a dchacne to add masterstrikes

[silver oak]

I dmed him the other day, never responded 😔

[iron spear]

i hope hes alive

S tier mod

i need to remake the mod tiers lmao

necro, s tier. Taco..... well you'll see

[woven stratus]

The wisdom of the pinned comment is immeasurable

[undone zenith]

Holy shit Simo sighting

[iron spear]

#sk-discussion message this one???

[silver oak]

probably the new one

the pins will be cleaned up one day but for now they can be a little silly

[iron spear]

gang gang

[steel marsh]

[formal karma]

i assume the comments gone pin is about something xbox did?

[frail shell]

I'm not realizing yet , is the ESRB rating really a huge news ?

[tawdry valley]

Haven’t looked at em for a while. Definitely some interesting additions

[cerulean sable]

i forgot you made this i hope i forget it again

[formal karma]

no

[tawdry valley]

No

[formal karma]

it wasn't a year ago when it first came up

[tawdry valley]

It might have been like 8 months ago when people pretended that they only wanted to know if the game was still being developed but yeah

[formal karma]

"rating pending" that means its 2 or 3 weeks from releasing!!! one year later

[frail shell]

Doesn't the rating mean the game is finished or something?

[opaque sigil]

no

it doesn't even actually have an esrb rating

[dapper topaz]

I mean, it means the game is coming out tomorrow

[frail shell]

Yo

Most hopeful SS fan

[dapper topaz]

…Did you see my pk emote?

[frail shell]

Yeah ...

[dapper topaz]

No one said that

[formal karma]

no one except fools

[frail shell]

You can't rate an unfinished game tho

[tawdry valley]

You get an E rating for not having realistic violence and for not having blood

[frail shell]

Can you ?

[formal karma]

but you CAN ressurect a year old arguement

[tawdry valley]

Media items would just lose ratings. Rather than wait until x time till release to get rated

[formal karma]

this didn't matter when it was 'rating pending' it doesn't necessarily matter now

[dapper topaz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1buhzj0/sorry_to_burst_your_bubbles_but_all_the/

[stiff burrow]

The rating came from a questionnaire that Team Cherry filled out

Is the TL;DR of that

[opaque sigil]

you definitely can

[formal karma]

don't send the poor lad to reddit....

[dapper topaz]

I will.

Let em suffer-

[frail shell]

Can we at least hope for a 2024 early 2025 release?

[tawdry valley]

TC getting sent a survey that they’re legally accountable to hold silksong up to ESRB must have played the whole video game and made the decision

[formal karma]

you can but hope didn't do anything in the last 4 years

hope doesn't really do anything at all, really

[stiff burrow]

We have nothing to go off. It might, it might not. I think it will, but that means nothing

[tawdry valley]

You can hope for whatever. It’s inarguable that silksong is closer to release than it ever has been

[dapper topaz]

Anyway, apart from all that, I do have hopes for Silksong coming this year

I’m not insane however, it’s possible it might be earlier or later

[frail shell]

Are they trying to release their game in the same time period as GTA6 so no one plays it ?????

[formal karma]

man just....no

[stiff burrow]

Most logical argument by a Hollow Knight fan

[formal karma]

it isn't tho

[frail shell]

They just want people to forget about SS at this point man

[stiff burrow]

It was sarcasm

[formal karma]

get better memes

[tawdry valley]

It’s true, team cherry actually doesn’t want to complete silksong

[frail shell]

I just realized I was 10 when I first saw the trailer 💀

[formal karma]

that explains a lot

[dapper topaz]

Why would they work on the game in the first place then

[silent cloud]

what

[tawdry valley]

Noted

[frail shell]

I lived 1/3 of my life waiting for silk song

[stiff burrow]

They want to finish the game and then release it
Hollow Knight released like a week before Breath of the Wild, you really think they care what other games there are

[tawdry valley]

I lived 2/3rds + waiting for world of goo 2

You’ll grow into it

[formal karma]

was goo 2 ever announced?

[stiff burrow]

I never thought World of Goo 2 would happen

Yes

[tawdry valley]

No

[stiff burrow]

I mean, it was last year

[formal karma]

then you have only been waiting for a year

[tawdry valley]

Says so right here

[tawdry valley]

I’ve been waiting for world of goo 2 since 2008

I don’t care when it was announced to exist

[formal karma]

if it wasn't announced then it wasn't being made which means you haven't been waiting for it

[stiff burrow]

You can wait for something to get announced

[formal karma]

just like half life 3- no one is waiting for it, because its not being made

[frail shell]

Elden Ring had time to release and the DLC will probably come out before silk song ever gets another trailer

[opaque sigil]

ss already did get another trailer

[formal karma]

one game doing things has never had any relation to silksong

[frail shell]

I'm just having fun with the time silk song takes to come out

[brittle garnet]

I hope they release before ER DLC

[astral dagger]

Silksong

[formal karma]

well ER is this summer isn't it? so likely not?

[tawdry valley]

Silksong Elden ring double event

[sly scaffold]

silksong but anyrad spawns when you kill an enemy

[tawdry valley]

HK and Elden ring both get a dlc at the same time. Both qualify as basically whole new games.
Both fight to assert which is the soulslike and which is the silklike

[formal karma]

silksong isn't a dlc so....

[dapper topaz]

And HK won’t get another dlc so….

[tawdry valley]

Paid downloadable content

[nimble radish]

is downloadable, is content
are you jokester? crushes your head

[tawdry valley]

I will hear no other metrics

[frail shell]

Anyone made a mod where u can play Hornet in HK yet ? Since u know ... it was the objective in the first place

[astral dagger]

Why not invert that. Silksong has a better engine, so import hollow knight (the entire game) into silksong.

[tawdry valley]

No, they came up with much better ideas and made those though

[brittle garnet]

There's a hornet skin for the Knight

[formal karma]

that objective got shit canned quick

[tawdry valley]

Feel free to play em

[astral dagger]

We should import hollow knight into silksong

[frail shell]

Yeah I think the map didn't fit hornet or something

[dapper topaz]

I’ve heard there was some mod which recreated SS but it isn’t available rn

[nimble radish]

isn't there a mod that lets play, like, fallout 4 in fallout new vegas
one of the games in one of the other ones

[astral dagger]

Basically that
But hollow knight in silksong

[tawdry valley]

New Vegas in 4

[frail shell]

Did anyone play the SS demo at the E3 here ?

[tawdry valley]

Silksong and HK don’t seem compatible for that concept

[dapper topaz]

Only the admins have played it afaik

Probably some mods too but who knows

[silver oak]

lol, lmao

[nimble radish]

@ everyone did you play the demo?

[astral dagger]

Tbh I’m hoping that we get e3 demo release at some point

Even if after silksong already released

For the sake of archival.

[formal karma]

never happening

[frail shell]

They've done so much things between the demo and now , it's probably out dated now

[astral dagger]

Yes

[formal karma]

it was out dated in 2019

[astral dagger]

That’s why I want to archive it, to compare, and for slight insight into silksongs development.

[charred pulsar]

Those darn QA peeps! All their fault I say

[frail shell]

Oh you mean like they did with the HK demo ?

[dapper topaz]

The demo is pretty small, I don’t think a lot of people will play it after SS itself releases

But for archival purposes… maybe

[frail shell]

Hk demo was just the cross roads

[dapper topaz]

Mhm true

[frail shell]

Now in SS we got that weird green place and 2 boss fights if Im right

Still wondering what is the canon HK ending for SS tho

[astral dagger]

Void god flower ending

[formal karma]

nothing is

[astral dagger]

With mushroom journey.

[nimble radish]

all of them happened one after the other

[frail shell]

Definitely canon

[formal karma]

hk's ending has exactly ZERO impact outside hallownest so it doesn;t matter

[frail shell]

Imagine a fight against the Hollow Knight at the start of the game

[astral dagger]

Void god.

[frail shell]

With Hornet having op stats

[formal karma]

doesn't mean anything outside hallownest that we can infer

[cyan forum]

So?

[astral dagger]

New Game Plus.

[formal karma]

wow, some black goo in a dead city's sewer that matters so much....

[dapper topaz]

Moss grotto? Yeah we have Moss mother

[astral dagger]

Ancient god of the void, god of gods. In an unknown location now.
Seems kinda like it’ll have impact, even if years later on.

[nimble radish]

that depends on its motives

[astral dagger]

It’s mere presence has impact.

[opaque sigil]

its motives aren't exactly a mystery

[formal karma]

i mean without the godseeker it may just gooify, we don't know

[opaque sigil]

it will just gooify

[dapper topaz]

I hope they also add a mossbag character somewhere there

Moss grotto moss mother mossbag

[formal karma]

its not like we SAW it outside godhome

[nimble radish]

what, fight as many people as possible

[formal karma]

it was just tendriling

[frail shell]

I'm pretty sure Radiant had only an impact on Hallownest

[opaque sigil]

it's not like it kills tiso or any number of any other npcs

[astral dagger]

Something doesn’t easily get the title GOD OF GODS

[brittle garnet]

God of gods is still the Knight isn't it

[opaque sigil]

it choosing to fight in godhome in gsm is recreational presumably but that doesn't mean it just wants to kill people

[astral dagger]

if only a few gods per area usually, for something of that power, it’s insanely strong.

[cyan forum]

Dude the godseeker was crazy

[formal karma]

vengefly is a god so....

[dapper topaz]

What even happened with Tiso in the pantheon lmao

And why is he there when we see his dead body at the bottom of the colosseum

[cyan forum]

it's like some 13 child calling andrew tate the second coming of christ

[frail shell]

God of Gods is a title given from the "cringe gods" POV

[opaque sigil]

he's there the same way the rooms look a bit like the environment the boss is fought in

[astral dagger]

Not saying it will try to kill- saying that it’s mere existence will change stuff around it, subtly, but over a long time, noticeable

[formal karma]

TC wanted to make sure that everyone knew that Tiso got buttholed

[frail shell]

Radiant was not the God of the universe, just a higher being pisssing of Hallownest

[opaque sigil]

there's no reason to think that will happen

[brittle garnet]

Though, to be fair, it's been somewhat established that Vessels identity is composed of both the shell and the shade, so god of gods as being born from the shade would not be exactly the same as the Knight

[cyan forum]

radiant = the radiance, right?

[opaque sigil]

it would most likely be the same due to how void heart works (and that being a half formulated account of the identity)

[nimble radish]

silksong ends with hornet going to get her sibling with unfathomable power

[dapper topaz]

Mm I see

[cyan forum]

the silkening

[formal karma]

her relative's corpse with ????

[opaque sigil]

vessels' minds are composed of both the shell and the shade but it's not half in the shell and half in the shade, the full mind is in both (e.g. LK post fight ghost)

[cerulean sable]

something something Vessel in Pharloom theory

[nimble radish]

I don't think essence ghosts imply the full mind being present

[dapper topaz]

No

[frail shell]

I think the only thing we'll get in SS that has something to do with Hallownest is gonna be infos about the weavers

[cyan forum]

idk about the vessel, but seeing the void be there could be potentially really cool

[opaque sigil]

it means that the shell and shade aren't separate minds interfacing, it's one mind. LKB also supports that with the 'we became as one' thing

[brittle garnet]

I'd rather say that the shade is the unconscious mind

[astral dagger]

Imagine the way team cherry made all endings canon is if you have hollow knight then whichever corresponding save slot chosen effects silksong slightly.
Meanwhile if no endings achieved then, a usual.
Only slight changes but still some.

[cyan forum]

so little is solidly known about the stuff

[opaque sigil]

in which case tk would've been under exclusively the control of that since the moment it got void heart

which isn't really true

[brittle garnet]

This would be cool but i think there will just be no mention of any hk endings at all

[dapper topaz]

Entire HK lore:

[frail shell]

Meanwhile that one guy that did the sealed siblings ending

[cyan forum]

yeah, which is why we need a sequel

[nimble radish]

I think the void is where the actual brain is, so to speak, the shell more facilitates the mind existing

[cyan forum]

or the "mind" is a imprint, or a fossil, made out of void

[opaque sigil]

shell certainly stops it from decaying but due to how essence moves it would be distributed across both

[cyan forum]

void is only the clay

[dapper topaz]

Players will probably assume one of the endings lead to Silksong’s timeline or something like that

[formal karma]

they do- but they're utterly wrong

[astral dagger]

Hollownest is doomed already in that kinda, so hornet just going after seal break via pharloom is fine.

[brittle garnet]

I hope they do a prequel comic for silksong too... Ari hinted at it way back when...

[nimble radish]

is essence the mind or is it created by the mind

[frail shell]

Btw , what animates the knights body when the shade is out there chilling ?

[nimble radish]

well, I suppose both are true

[astral dagger]

More shade

[opaque sigil]

nothing

[dapper topaz]

Yeah it’s actually difficult unless it’s implied somewhere in the game later on

[nimble radish]

ym

[brittle garnet]

Respawning isn't canon

[frail shell]

Meaning steel soul is the Canon gameplay

[brittle garnet]

Canonically the Knight and its shade can't exist at the same time separately

[frail shell]

So why making an ending where the knight death is the main plot ?

[exotic geyser]

omg did he? where...

[brittle garnet]

?

[frail shell]

The knight dies in the dream no more

[exotic geyser]

well in the ending of course it can, its just that death during gameplay isnt canon

[brittle garnet]

Yeah and?

[formal karma]

dies in every ending, really

[nimble radish]

depends on how you think about death

[brittle garnet]

Idr look it up

[opaque sigil]

it loses its shell but at that point it probably doesn't need it

[astral dagger]

Tbh the worst ending is the one where you just absorb the radiance from the hollow knight

[dapper topaz]

Mister mushroom ending 🍄

[astral dagger]

Since the vessel is impure.

[formal karma]

we think its the worst anyways

[nimble radish]

maybe it does just fade away after killing the radiance

I wouldn't expect it though

[frail shell]

Add to that hornet being in the fight

[dapper topaz]

Yeah that’s like, getting your keys stuck inside the car

[opaque sigil]

its influence certainly lingers for a while at minimum or else hornet would be fucking dead

[astral dagger]

Hornet gets saved then tho

[frail shell]

Sealed Siblings is the worst of them all and if u do it it's just because of the achievement

[frail shell]

Nah she's locked in

With her being the seal I think

[astral dagger]

Pharloom bugs can break the seals and kidnap hornet

[frail shell]

Lmao that'd be fun

[dapper topaz]

Did they use music to doo thhaaat

[frail shell]

What music ?

Oooh

[dapper topaz]

The theme is song so

[frail shell]

Yeah pharloom music and all of that

Mb when I read Pharloom I understand Farum Azula

[dapper topaz]

Anyway, Pharloom area musics will be bangers since Christopher is returning

[dapper topaz]

[inland ravine]

so anyway i appear

[frail shell]

Yeah I've just played too much ER

If hollow knight didn't existed it'd be my top 1

[nimble radish]

why are there so many hk fans on this server
hate that game

[opaque sigil]

true it's mid af

[dapper topaz]

Fr

So many bugs

[astral dagger]

Also, the hollow knight on their way to save hornet during silksong;

[dapper topaz]

And not just ordinary bugs

Game - breaking bugs

[frail shell]

I can love HK can't I?

[dapper topaz]

We are joking-

[frail shell]

Oh mb

Can't get sarcasm threw messages

That's an issue for me

[nimble radish]

indicator that I may not be wholly serious: I questioned why there were so many hollow knight fans on this server, the hollow knight server

[frail shell]

You can be on a games sever without the game being ur fav game

I highly doubt everyone having HollowKnight as their favorite game here

[dapper topaz]

Yeah actually my fav game isn’t HK

Like, sure it’s the second on my list

But there’s one game I simply can’t get enough of

[frail shell]

Elden Ring 😄 ?

[dapper topaz]

Nah, that would be third

[frail shell]

Fair enough

[fresh pollen]

Hotel mario?

[dapper topaz]

My first is this pixel art game- Eastward

[frail shell]

Tetris 99 ?

[dapper topaz]

Mm never heard of that

[dapper topaz]

Lmao

[frail shell]

I just checked what eastward is and the AD looks really gud

[tawdry valley]

I mean I guess HK would need to be top 5 for me

Statistically speaking at least

[frail shell]

OMG A BORDERLANFS 2 FAN

I really appreciate you

[tawdry valley]

Bl4 will be the one surely

[frail shell]

Yeah ...

[dapper topaz]

It’s such a masterpiece, trust me

Sure the story may not be elaborated that much

But in terms of gameplay it’s super good

And in terms of game art, there’s literally few other games which can compete with it

[frail shell]

3 wasn't it ......

I really want to play Octopath Travler 1 & 2 for the art style

[tawdry valley]

I need to get back to having time to play video games first

But yes for sure

rip

[frail shell]

Hey I know when the game came out it was an absolute flop ... but what are you guy's thoughts on No Man's Skye actual state ...........

I swear it ain't that bad anymore

The games really chill

[tawdry valley]

no man’s sky is now at the bare minimum for an mediocre/okay space exploration game

Congrats ig

[frail shell]

But I ain't the flop it was when it came out

They worked well imo

[dapper topaz]

Man I really wanna play more metroidvania

I’m not a hardcore metro fan- my main genre is RPGs and games with pixel assets

[opaque sigil]

nms is a fine sandbox at this point but it struggles at a meaningful sense of exploration

[tawdry valley]

Vast improvement from dogass to mid doesn’t make it less mid. No man’s sky was boring and unplayable, now it’s just only kinda boring

[frail shell]

Play Dead cell's

[jade canopy]

Shouldn’t be hard to get recommended some around those lands

[formal karma]

i mean deadcells isnt reallya metroid

[dapper topaz]

Heard a lot of it

Looks impressive!

[primal horizon]

I really hate the people that say “pixel art are overrated” like shut up that’s not the point of video games 💀

[dapper topaz]

Fr lmao

[jade canopy]

It’s mostly a rogue like

[frail shell]

Pixel art is and art style

[opaque sigil]

at some point nms just turns into 'space cargo hauling simulator' which can be interesting but you also often can just end up revisiting the same systems over and over since you know their economies

[frail shell]

Looking like BF 2042 or GoW 5 isn't a must for every game

[tawdry valley]

Like GoW succeeded because it looked cool

[primal horizon]

also it’s easier on the devs too so like, win win

[frail shell]

Pixel art isn't that easy

[tawdry valley]

Also, GoW looked cool

[frail shell]

It's like art in general I think

[tawdry valley]

Hard to mess up combat you can wavedash in

[primal horizon]

You have wayyyyyy less to worry about when it’s pixel art

[dapper topaz]

Pixel art needs mastering yes but the requirements are small

Traditional art/hand drawn art has a multitude of genres just like pixel art

[lament pumice]

Yes exactly, I draw pixel art, and it is hard

[frail shell]

It's depends of the pixel art we're talking about

[opaque sigil]

pixel art is probably cheaper but making well animated pixel art isn't easy

[frail shell]

Shading pixels is hard af trust me

[tawdry valley]

Pixel art is easier than hand animation and more accessible than certain 3D renders

[lament pumice]

yes

[silver oak]

Breaking: game design is hard

[primal horizon]

pixel art is an actual STYLE it’s not something in general

[brittle garnet]

Well yeah it's certainly more accessible but it's not easy to make it look great

[primal horizon]

True that

[tawdry valley]

High quality execution of any art form is difficult. Pixel art has a relatively lower barrier for entry

[brittle garnet]

But so is any other style tbf

[frail shell]

I want to play the 3DS Fire emblems now

🫠

[tawdry valley]

Not in terms of skill, just implementation.

[opaque sigil]

tbh they aren't that good for the most part

[frail shell]

Fate was good

[opaque sigil]

conquest was good, rev and birthright were awful

[primal horizon]

I dunno if you guys had a choice and were accessible to that stuff
would you pick to draw hand-drawn art or pixel art in terms of difficulty

[frail shell]

The main 2 games on 3DS are Fate and Conquest anyway

[frail shell]

Start by hand art and try pixel when ur ready

[opaque sigil]

shadows of valentia inherited some of the worst map design in the series and it still is better than rev and birthright

[dapper topaz]

I’d pick pixel art

I’ve seen games with breathtaking pixel assets, I can imagine they took like months to make

[frail shell]

My brother really wants me to play Engage but it seems boring tbh

[dapper topaz]

However, this doesn’t mean hand drawn art is easy

It’s just my pick cuz I’m more into pixel stuff than anything else

[opaque sigil]

engage is a great game

especially in contrast with the letdown that was 3h

[frail shell]

Bro 3H was good

[opaque sigil]

3h was meh at best, it has a lot of absolutely insane mechanical problems

[frail shell]

Lore , Soundtrack and Characters were all great

[opaque sigil]

and the game itself wasn't

[frail shell]

Ig it was an easy game for sure tho

Take byleth and ur lord and its an easy win

[opaque sigil]

fodlan is probably my second favorite setting, the ost is great, and the characters are mostly good, but the map design, weapon mechanics, class balance, skill system, etc is all bad

(it's also a bit annoying that the game doesn't really use the setting that well)

[frail shell]

There were indeed way less classes than Conquest

But it's hard to do better than conquest in terms of gameplay

[opaque sigil]

it's not about number of classes it's the complete lack of any reason to have a diverse army

also conquest is good but it's not like the best in the series

[frail shell]

Depends for every player

[wide quartz]

I've only played the gba ones lol

[manic abyss]

Potatoes

[frail shell]

Bro is to og for me

[opaque sigil]

eh engage basically takes similar approaches to difficulty as conquest does but it does it in a much less ad hoc way

and does considerably more to make classes have distinct advantages which is something the series has had a lot of trouble with

[frail shell]

The thing that made stop engage real fast is Collgate main character

[manic abyss]

I should play Fire Emblem one day

[frail shell]

He's so annoying

[manic abyss]

Problem is Idk where to start

[wide quartz]

Start with chess

[frail shell]

Lol

[manic abyss]

I've already played chess

[opaque sigil]

if you want to emulate, 7 or 8 are decent starting points, or awakening.

you also could start with 3h but it isn't really a normal fe game, or engage

[frail shell]

I didn't finish awakening

[manic abyss]

Does Fire Emblem have like an overarching story or is it like Legend Of Zelda?

[wide quartz]

Each game is basically separate

[opaque sigil]

like legend of zelda except they often just take place in entirely different worlds

[frail shell]

Just don't start with Engage and ull be good

[wide quartz]

Some stories stretch into several games

[manic abyss]

Ah I see

[opaque sigil]

9/10 are one overarching narrative, as are 1 and 3 but those are bad

[wide quartz]

6 is a prequel to 5

[opaque sigil]

7 is a prequel to 6, 5 is an interquel to 4

[wide quartz]

Dang

[frail shell]

My brother really wants a reboot of FE 7 I think ... like he want the reboot of a game with insanely large map if I'm not wrong

But idk if it's the 7 or not

[opaque sigil]

4

[frail shell]

Oh yeah maybe

[opaque sigil]

4 remake is likely in the works due to an insider who knew stuff about engage pre-release, but that could be a troll or something

would love to have that so long as they don't try to soften the story a bit for a new audience acquainted with the newer games

[frail shell]

Yeah my brother is more of an FE fan than me tbh

I don't really anything about those

Meanwhile I forced him to play HollowKnight and he still doesn't have the patience to beat Margit in Elden Ring

[opaque sigil]

a lot of the older games kind of aren't that great and take more effort to find a way to play than is worth it

like 4 is probably the only nonlocalized one that's good (5 has a lot of very good mechanics but it also is balanced out by a lot of god awful mechanics like staff missing)

and at this point if you haven't played 4 may as well wait for the remake, though I imagine basically everyone has been spoiled on a lot of it

not that knowing what's coming really ruins those moments but still

[frail shell]

I don't watch/read anything about FE 4

So if not the size of the maps idk anything about the game

[opaque sigil]

makes sense that that's the one thing you might know

other fe games have maps the scale of castles, fe4 maps are across the board at least one country

[sage glade]

anyone got a tldr

[quick blaze]

Does Silksong take place after or before the events of Hollow Knight?

[nimble radish]

during

[surreal remnant]

after

[opaque sigil]

probably after but not technically confirmed

[quick blaze]

But we see Hornet a lot during Hollow Knight

[quick blaze]

Ah okay

[surreal remnant]

pandalorian was trolling

[nimble radish]

theres a potentially very long period of time in which the knight is asleep after reaching resting grounds

and hornet, when encountered for the second time, has new abilities

[surreal remnant]

you’re crazy

[opaque sigil]

tbh if that was the ic trigger you could kind of make that claim

[silver oak]

The knight dream nails the egg in the abyss and passes out for 5 months

[surreal remnant]

months isn’t a canonical unit of time necro

[silver oak]

banning you imo

[surreal remnant]

years is tho, so just say 5 years

[nimble radish]

you have to do the one for the other to happen, at least

actually you don't because lost kin?

[brittle garnet]

It's technically unknown right now

But it's after trust

[mortal shoal]

A sequel is way more likely, but neither of them are confirmed. It's simply that all the stars would have to align in order to make it a prequel. You can watch some videos and there's evidence for both, but atm it's probably going to be a sequel

[quick blaze]

I'm hoping Silksong isn't a prequel cuz I want to see the story move forward if you know what I mean

[cunning geode]

silksong takes place during HK because it’s actually Hornet playing a game on her Webtop Computer and that game is Silksong

[brittle garnet]

At least hornet's story yeah

[mortal shoal]

But we all know whatever it is, it will all boil down to Hollow Knight: ZoteBoat

[muted owl]

Hornet died 50 years ago.

[cunning geode]

you tried

[fiery burrow]

Where'd the boat thing even come from

[cunning geode]

funny rhyme

[fiery burrow]

Funny is being generous

[mortal shoal]

That will be revealed in Siksong. I got inside knowledgr

[cunning geode]

[nimble radish]

L emote
solos

[cunning geode]

where my hollogre fanatics at

[mortal shoal]

I would be down for a Hollow Knight: ZoteLoad

[nimble radish]

don't know what that is

[cunning geode]

!!!

[mortal shoal]

Just how... Trucks are loaded, and you know.. zote rhymes with.. NVM im sorry

[nimble radish]

what the flip

[cunning geode]

wow that’s a crunchy one

i still have the og… gimme a minute

silksong will come out before they ever accept my emoji in this server

[mortal shoal]

Can you post it as a picture

[cunning geode]

yes

[mortal shoal]

Oh ok

[cunning geode]

what did ya expect

[mortal shoal]

Something else lol.

But nvm

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232587540719206400/1223457044003295324/markifire.gif

[nimble radish]

someone warn him

[high hedge]

Impossible

[lament coyote]

It was confirmed more than just technically

[hollow terrace]

Still technically unknown regardless of hints or speculation

[nimble radish]

it was confirmed that we don't know

[high hedge]

The answer is just to say sequel

Everyone gets mad at you when you say prequel

[hollow terrace]

Confirmed that you are canonically a IDIOT

[winter nova]

wasn’t there a review of the game recently

or was that an april fools thing

[high hedge]

Yeah they said it sucked

[winter nova]

oh

[high hedge]

They got to play an early copy and apparently all the controls are motion based now

[opaque sigil]

TRUE

[winter nova]

[nimble radish]

the kinect

[opaque sigil]

midsong

[high hedge]

Sorry to ruin your hopes😔

[lament coyote]

Is silksong's trailer description a speculation to you

[high hedge]

It is a sequel in regards to being a follow up game

They’re wondering chronologically

Like how fnaf 2 is a sequel prequel

[mortal shoal]

Chronologically all arrows are poiting at it being a sequel

[lament coyote]

Could've just re-sent it but okay sure

[nimble radish]

you fool

[lament coyote]

[glacial wren]

what fhe fuck are you all talking about it's hollow knight 2

[high hedge]

What about that scene in the trailer where Hornet points to a calendar that says 1955

[mortal shoal]

A point I don't see talked about alot has to do with Hornet being "Princess Protector" of Hallownest. Surely, if it was that way, she wouldn't just dip after being raised there, then come back after SS?

[high hedge]

Well she was kidnapped

So she would want to return

[nimble radish]

that's heavy

[lament coyote]

What about weavers' den?

[mortal shoal]

So did those lil bell cultists fight their way through into deepnest?

[cunning geode]

what about that scene in the trailer where Hornet reacts to the bite of '87

[lament coyote]

Surely if she saved weavers in pharloom there would be more than a single weaver alive

[nimble radish]

technically it was the bite of 83', you see the

[slate comet]

Is there any news about silk song?

[high hedge]

She doesn’t spend all her time there

[fiery burrow]

Well she was captured and brought to Pharloom against her will

[high hedge]

Maybe they don’t want to live in Hallownest

[lament coyote]

Join the cult and you shall know the truth

[glacial wren]

why would she wanna go back to dying dead ass hallownest

[nimble radish]

depends on the last time you checked

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/conniption-drew-conniption-im-gonna-have-im-gonna-have-a-conniption-drew-gif-22871009

[high hedge]

Sentimentality

[slate comet]

Early 2023

[lament coyote]

Eh... Might be so.

[high hedge]

The game has been indefinitely delayed

[slate comet]

Rip

[olive bobcat]

The game has been infinitely delayed

[high hedge]

YAY

[glacial wren]

oh yeah her distant mother and bastard father and all the dead things surrounding those dead things im sure hornet just stood around there after the endings

[mortal shoal]

She went Deepnest into Queens Garndens into Hive no? Or what was the order

[half arrow]

Ss is a sequel xd

[high hedge]

See this is why you just call the game a sequel

No one actually entertains the prequel idea

[mortal shoal]

Yeah that is what I said in there

[lament coyote]

I just wanna see the knight callback in pharloom(

[glacial wren]

if it were a prequel wouldn't hornet have hair?

[half arrow]

ª

[high hedge]

She has always been bald

[olive bobcat]

Man I listened to Giorno's theme, now I wanna rewatch some part 5

[mortal shoal]

I wanna see void in Pharloom. As like a DLC or sum

[high hedge]

I’d rather not see old stuff in Silksong

[mortal shoal]

Not like a main part of the story

[tiny pine]

hell yeah part 5

[nimble radish]

did that guy ever have hair?

[high hedge]

I want new content

[fiery burrow]

Well its a different kingdom and they made it that way specifically so they could have new stuff

[high hedge]

I rewatched the train fight

[olive bobcat]

I also still need to rearrange my part 4 shelf

[fiery burrow]

It would be strange to see a lot of callbacks to Hallownest

[olive bobcat]

Train fight goated

[glacial wren]

also where's her reclusive law abiding sister who's allergic to dreams

[high hedge]

Exactly

[olive bobcat]

We all remember Bruno's face zipper dodge

[half arrow]

WellThat depends on the ending they took, or if there is another void in silksong

[high hedge]

Bruno is a hand to hand baller

[fiery burrow]

All endings will be accounted for so that kinda rules out void appearing since that would make not getting voidheart and thus ending 1 non-canon

[fresh pollen]

There won't be bugs in silksong as there were already bugs in hollow knight

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/stand-bucciarati-giorno-pelea-fight-gif-17494533

[mortal shoal]

Well the white flowers are from Pharloom and were brought into Hallownest by Le'mer. So that is a sort of callback already.. but it changes HK lore tidbits moreso than SS

[fiery burrow]

Why are you presuming the delicate flowers are from Pharloom

[olive bobcat]

Luffy I think you should buy the Gold Experience figure

[high hedge]

Why

[olive bobcat]

Let me pull up a couple pics

[high hedge]

I hate Giorno

[opaque sigil]

they're not even close to being the same flowers, also her name is Ze'mer

[mortal shoal]

Mostly just cause there's a load of them there

[olive bobcat]

Is this not cool to you

[fiery burrow]

We see white roses, they are visually distinct from Delicate Flowers

[half arrow]

I highly doubt that all endings are taken into account.

[high hedge]

It’s a good design

[tiny pine]

im still miffed about the localizations for the sub/dub

[fiery burrow]

TC has stated such

[high hedge]

Zipper Man

[glacial wren]

her name is waiii

[tiny pine]

oh thats lovely

[sick elm]

Developer comment: All endings are canon

According to Team Cherry, all endings are equally canon.

Source

@starpengu used /dev-comments source: Reddit name: All endings are canon

[half arrow]

A long time ago

[olive bobcat]

I love when people make displays for their figures

[fiery burrow]

There is no reason to presume thats changed

[olive bobcat]

Like photoshoots

[opaque sigil]

it was clearly in reference to ss

[lament coyote]

Dub?

Will ss get a voiceover

[modest night]

You should do that

[high hedge]

TC decided to make only dying prematurely in Steel Soul canon

[tiny pine]

omg sonia hii

[mortal shoal]

Not sure where else they would come from or why would TC pick such a similar flower for the sequel. So no evidence, just strong clues imo

[modest night]

Omg hiiii hiiii

[high hedge]

Aloha

[tiny pine]

wtf how u been

[opaque sigil]

why don't you go look at the flowers again because they really aren't similar

[fiery burrow]

They would come from a different kingdom? Hallownest and Pharloom aren't the only ones in the world

[glacial wren]

ss needs a bunch of random youtubers voicing characters with actual spoken english

no accent or nothing

[high hedge]

In my hazy memory all things line up to how I want them to be

[olive bobcat]

I do

[tiny pine]

i want accents

[high hedge]

Why not keep them that way

[half arrow]

It also doesn't make sense that silksong, being a sequel, has 5 endings from which to follow Hornet's story

[nimble radish]

I think bugs are all australian

[modest night]

Honestly stressed out and I have to write a thingy on a lab class and it's 8 pages long urghhhhhh

[opaque sigil]

it does though

[high hedge]

They are

[glacial wren]

top of the morning to ya laddies my name is sherma

[olive bobcat]

I've got a One Piece display going rn, every crew member has a unique plant and then little decorations

[modest night]

Wby?

[high hedge]

Everywhere else imported bugs

[fiery burrow]

when Pharloom's story is separate from Hallownest's conclusions yeah it does

[opaque sigil]

hk endings don't affect pharloom, there's no reason for tc to have to pick one to make canon

[high hedge]

My favorite is still the franky section

[tiny pine]

ZORO

[glacial wren]

godhome ending

[mortal shoal]

Bad phrasing on my part. They could for sure come from somewhere else, but isnt that just lame? Getting teased with them in an ending, that they can overpower void itself, then just having them gone? Weird stuff

[tiny pine]

ive been good so far
mostly trying to organize my cosplay plans this year

[opaque sigil]

not really no

[fiery burrow]

Flower ending was already lame

[lament coyote]

Pharloom's story might happen after an indefinite amount of time so it wouldn't matter which ending was the result in the past

[steep fog]

Pharloom when

[fiery burrow]

Its a variant of the lamest ending which is known for empty cliffhangers

[high hedge]

1985

[opaque sigil]

also since you clearly aren't going to actually look at the flowers

they're not even close to the same thing

[high hedge]

Those are basically the same

[modest night]

Who are you cosplaying?

[high hedge]

They’re both white

[fiery burrow]

Lace's wedding dress should be decorated with those flowers

[tiny pine]

Doc and Tachanka from Rainbow 6 Siege
and Ghost/Simon Riley from COD if I have time

[high hedge]

It is

[stoic path]

I feel bad for the testers, they won't be able to enjoy Silksong the way we would.

[high hedge]

TC sent me early sketches of the Lacenet wedding

[modest night]

Slay send process pics

[mortal shoal]

That's an opinion, mine is that they could make some wacky and fun connections with the void from Hallownest and the flowers from Pharloom. Not sure what connections. But it sounds great to me

[glacial wren]

when was this confirmed for silksong

[high hedge]

Just now

[tiny pine]

i had an Arknights cosplay in the works but had a weird ass falling out with the guy who organized the shoot

[mortal shoal]

Also that Godmaster ending is way too annoying of a cliffhanger to be left as just a cliffhanger forever

[cerulean sable]

hornet's javelin should disable the shield of shield enemies

[modest night]

I think you can imagine whatever you want forever and that's pretty rad

Like you can totally make stuff up the game isn't even out yet anyway

[tiny pine]

April next year (trust me)

[high hedge]

It should stick to walls and let you stand on it

[glacial wren]

secret ending where you give lace a flower and go on a giddy gay little date assuming neither of them are dead

[opaque sigil]

I mean it's going to be

[cerulean sable]

half life moment

[high hedge]

True!

[opaque sigil]

it's also not that much of a cliffhanger

[lament coyote]

Hollup what does scoa stand for

[cerulean sable]

also Hallownest bogging down Silksong's story is lame

[mortal shoal]

Ok every ending is a cliffhanger... But this one is the worst to me

[opaque sigil]

but regardless in no universe is ss going to follow up etv, even if they did inexplicably decide to follow an ending that would be the single worst one to choose

[high hedge]

Summergamesfest Coalition of Atheists

[lament coyote]

So sgf but shorter

[high hedge]

Yeah

[mortal shoal]

That's why I would prefer it to be outside the main story. As a side quest or DLC

[glacial wren]

I like to think the connections to hallownest are as simple as hornets possible damaged memories of it

[high hedge]

Hornet flashbacks

[fiery burrow]

Juggling the whole weaver thing with the delicate flower ending for no reason would be too much imo

[opaque sigil]

the weavers

the weavers are the only real link between those kingdoms and there's no actual reason to have any more

[glacial wren]

duh

[high hedge]

Pale King will be in Pharloom wearing a fake mustache

He will refuse to acknowledge you

[glacial wren]

if quirrel forgot idk why a bunch of dumb spiders wouldn't

[mortal shoal]

It would be a laaarge challenge for TC for sure, to juggle it with all the other stuff and still keep it canon. If they found a way tho, large respect to them.

[opaque sigil]

quirrel is probably beacon dependent and has adverse effects from being outside of the kingdom, spiders aren't

[half arrow]

but it affects Hornet xd

[high hedge]

Is that a thing

[glacial wren]

probably

[lament coyote]

He had monomon mask he wouldn't and couldn't care less

[half arrow]

Its affect Hornet

[fiery burrow]

In irrelevant ways

[opaque sigil]

not in such a capacity that it would need to be addressed

[opaque sigil]

she doesn't have to talk about it, there's no reason why she would

[high hedge]

Hornet forgets her name and is renamed to Shoe

[half arrow]

Bruh, in one she fight the Hollow Knight

[opaque sigil]

she doesn't and even if she did that wouldn't matter to ss

[high hedge]

Hornet would win

[half arrow]

In another shes trappet into the black egg With Ghost

[high hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-nah-i'd-win-jujutsu-kaisen-gojo-i-will-win-gif-12293923855672000789

[fiery burrow]

Why do any of these things pertain to Pharloom

[high hedge]

?tag info jokerpsa

[white sail]

Silksong spoilers!

||https://youtube.com/clip/UgzlVc4LM4J6_DfuscZ4AaABCQ||

No ending stops Hornet from being captured, and the ability to break seals with bugs from Pharloom makes Hornet being locked in the Black Egg not an issue. Dreamers also don’t die when sealed, we simply didn’t have the means to remove them without killing them.

[opaque sigil]

another thing she has no reason to mention in ss

[burnt topaz]

wth are the pins

[high hedge]

They are good now

[glacial wren]

what if..... silksong.. takes place on a dream.....

[high hedge]

Hornet wakes up and goes, “Well that was weird!”
Then turns over to see Lace next to her

[fiery burrow]

That fall off the bridge to the citadel actually knocked her out, Silksong is her dream

[mortal shoal]

Maybe dreams aren't such great things, afterall....

[olive bobcat]

@high hedge Hear me out

[high hedge]

Well thats rad

Purple Haze has a great design

Lots of P5 stands do

[olive bobcat]

Not my picture (effect not included with it)

[high hedge]

Its my favorite part for stands

[half arrow]

Im just saying that the ending does affect Hornet, and obviously although Pharloom is not affected (except in the one where the void escapes xd) it gives relevance to what has happened to Hornet

[high hedge]

The purple effect goes so well with it though…

[mortal shoal]

Shut down all of Silksong speculation any% WR

[opaque sigil]

it affecting her doesn't matter when that would not be visible in ss

[glacial wren]

I'm just saying i dont know yet because i have not played hollow knight silksong yet

[olive bobcat]

Shoutout to people who make displays for their figures instead of just setting them up in rows, gotta be my favorite collectors

[opaque sigil]

this is also just an inaccurate understanding of etv but that's besides the point

[high hedge]

You still haven’t?

[glacial wren]

no :(

[fiery burrow]

Silksong focuses on Hornet's journey through Pharloom

Not how Hallownest has affected Hornet

[glacial wren]

hornet trauma dumping wtf

[opaque sigil]

she can have whatever internal thoughts you headcanon her to have but that doesn't mean she has any reason to say anything about them, so they don't affect SS

[fiery burrow]

Silksong should have a venting channel

[high hedge]

She is thinking about marrying Lace all game

[half arrow]

well, Hornet has a personality, and it can vary whether the infection has been cleared or not, and there is also a reference to his tribe in the description of silksong, so it does affect

[opaque sigil]

idk where this idea that Hornet will definitely have to sit down and give a total autobiography comes from

[glacial wren]

my dad killed all of my siblings and my mom was an actual beast of a woman and i was raised by bees i think

[fallen blaze]

Hornet yap sesh confirmation

[opaque sigil]

that personality is not likely to change considerably due to that (nor would that be identifiable either way) and the weavers aren't in hallownest and wouldn't be affected by infection

[fresh pollen]

I'm looking forward to potential steel soul jinn related lore

[fiery burrow]

idk why she'd really express her feelings regarding Hallownest in Silksong

[opaque sigil]

you have not actually given a single reason why it would be at all difficult for TC to just not confirm any ending

[fallen blaze]

What if she forgor

[high hedge]

They wouldn’t want to disappoint me

[dapper granite]

Silksong just got it's release date!!!

[high hedge]

Me personally

[dapper granite]

21st sep

[indigo steppe]

Hello chat

[coarse leaf]

True, they're doing it for me, we had a meeting

[fallen blaze]

Bro ghost pinged me in off topic

[half arrow]

I give three reasons xd

[indigo steppe]

seeing godzilla x kong today

[high hedge]

Its fun!

[glacial wren]

thinking about yuri hehehehe

[fallen blaze]

Then talkin bout silksong release date

[opaque sigil]

not a single one of them actually was a reason

[high hedge]

Hope you enjoy it!

[indigo steppe]

https://tenor.com/pF69DHimFY0.gif

[dapper granite]

@fallen blaze
Google it see for yourself

[fiery burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232587540719206400/1223730380218171453/hcnop.gif

[olive bobcat]

Think I'm gonna listen to JoJo during work today

[opaque sigil]

that tc could hypothetically choose to confirm an ending doesn't make it hard for them not to

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/feyd-rautha-kong-gif-4116279393305708694

[half arrow]

really yes, by no longer having a kingdom to protect, she can focus on something else, apart from who she has been captured by.

[fallen blaze]

Lebaron

[indigo steppe]

Apparently there’s a scene of just 25 mins of pure kaiju action?

[high hedge]

I used to do all my chores that way

[cerulean sable]

my kingdom
my kingdom
my kingdom for a stag

[opaque sigil]

she isn't choosing to be in pharloom so that's moot

[high hedge]

I wasn’t timing it, but it’s a lot

[half arrow]

Hornet VS Hollow Knight
Hornet trappet in the black egg
The voids escape

[olive bobcat]

I have a playlist with a bunch of random music that's good for work, but recently I've just been listening to albums and soundtracks

[indigo steppe]

https://tenor.com/kgnioaSIH66.gif

[fiery burrow]

Two of those aren't even correct

[glacial wren]

but she finds her real family by the end and decides to stay :D

[opaque sigil]

none of those are reasons, two of them are false outright and one of them is just not a problem due to the possibility of seals breaking

and even if they were true they wouldn't be a challenge for TC to avoid, they could just not address them

[coarse leaf]

If im not getting anime flashbacks every 2 minutes within ss im not playing it iirc

[mortal shoal]

It kinda is better for her no? Rather be captured and dropped into Pharloom than captured in an E G G for eternity/your death

[half arrow]

Im just speculating

[indigo steppe]

Godzilla King of the Monsters gets too much hate

[fiery burrow]

tbh getting some seal breaking flies would be dope

I wanna use them

[half arrow]

Wich ones?

[opaque sigil]

ig maybe as a simple key alternative

[glacial wren]

I've seen this argument like 6 times now can we all just agree that silksong is just hornet hallucinating and she is actually dead

[fiery burrow]

First and last, there's no reason for Hornet and THK to fight and there's no reason to assume the void is escaping rather than doing what it does in DNM

[inland ravine]

@high hedge hi :3

[glacial wren]

the stages of grief bro...

[high hedge]

YOOOOO HI GWNJ

[inland ravine]

[high hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-forehead-cat-head-cat-attack-cat-head-attack-gif-3068817216195933292

[inland ravine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004627119516700782/1226161424078995597/attachment.gif

[opaque sigil]

arguing that sealed siblings definitely blocks silksong when one of the first things you see in SS is a seal very prominently being broken by a method that exists in pharloom is just very silly

[half arrow]

well the fact is that he meets the Hollow Knight and something happens
and the void would obviously do something

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-water-cute-cat-shower-cat-gif-27550509

[mortal shoal]

I mean maybe they thought there was a reason to fight? Really looked like that in the ending. Clearly THK started it, not sure why tho

[inland ravine]

Me

[opaque sigil]

the void isn't going to do anything (other than godseeker mode) and she's not going to fight thk, even if either of them had a reason to fight thk wouldn't be able to walk