#sk-discussion

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opaque sigil
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When they happen they often just get shouted over

patent heath
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Fair, but does she have spells or shade cloak?

versed pollen
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Hornet has a bigger hitbox, which would probably make numerous harder in some respects. But can you really count "bigger hitbox" as a mechanic in a game

wheat sail
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Uhhhhhh yes

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Idk

shell yacht
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no spells or known iframe move yet

silver oak
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She has things similar to spells

opaque sigil
shell yacht
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wait her dash has iframes?

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are u sure

versed pollen
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Lack of ddark means AR is harder and basically no one else

opaque sigil
silver oak
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Not the basic one but I think there’s a clip

patent heath
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I was thinking that Rad and AbsBad might be harder.
Hornet doesn't have anything similar to the Shade Cloak from however much we have seen. So Light Wall will just be undodgeable.

wheat sail
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I'm sure team Cherry will add baby iframe moves

patent heath
versed pollen
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silver oak
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Anyway pc hornet would sweep pc knight in a 1v1

shell yacht
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yeah ddark saves you from most of rads moves with its insane frames

opaque sigil
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fiery burrow
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PC?

silver oak
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Player character

fiery burrow
wheat sail
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Just parry

opaque sigil
patent heath
fiery burrow
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Once TC updates HK to add a "Break shell and kill this person with void" button its all over for Hornet

silver oak
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She has “silk abilities”

patent heath
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silver oak
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Pretty sure that isn’t the official name but stuff like the gossamer swarm or silk spear

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opaque sigil
hazy summit
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This is a spell-like ability

versed pollen
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ddark 2 in Silksong, millions must win button

fiery burrow
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I wonder if they're gonna do upgraded spells in Silksong

shell yacht
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idk if id call it spell related, she used in in hk too its just silk being whipped around

fiery burrow
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Its tied to her silk infused with soul bar

patent heath
shell yacht
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it uses soul?

versed pollen
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It strikes me as an attack that would consume silk to use so I consider it a spell

hazy summit
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I don't think it's a spell either but its the replacement

golden pawn
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She’s a weaver, it’s obviously gonna be tied to her being a weaver.

shell yacht
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using silk to use a silk whip, yes, follows logic

fiery burrow
wheat sail
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Watch me silk

fiery burrow
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If it was just silk she wouldn't need to hit enemies to collect it since she produces it herself

shell yacht
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the kingdoms just covered in silk, everyones a puppet

opaque sigil
versed pollen
shell yacht
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silksong is a lies of p clone

hazy summit
patent heath
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Fair.

hazy summit
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Why the snail

opaque sigil
patent heath
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Also, in SS can you choose how many of those special moves you can have equipped?

hazy summit
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I'm ruined

wheat sail
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🐢

shell yacht
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wait is that snailris?

patent heath
opaque sigil
hazy summit
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And you have to go to a bench to change it

patent heath
wheat sail
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Stop pinging it

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🐌

wide quartz
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holy moly im on 5/7 chapter of goodnight punpun

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i started it earlier today

opaque sigil
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equipping only one at a time would mean they can't be used as progression unlocks very much without being a pain in the ass

hazy summit
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I mean

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One

shell yacht
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i wanna buildcraft but i need more info beastcry
for crowsworn too beastcry
ree

versed pollen
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Only being able to equip one spell sounds miserable

patent heath
opaque sigil
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it seems like there's maybe only one slot dedicated to them, but it could be that two skills are baseline and there's only one that gets swapped out or something

patent heath
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I mean, yeah, three was usually how many special moves you had in HK as well.

hazy summit
patent heath
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the Spells and Nail Arts.

wheat sail
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Maybe you can infuse spells in a nail, make silksong an rpg

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And have a spell give 12.666% dmg

patent heath
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I feel like the Silk AOE attack thing and the Needle Throw might be fixed, and you can change the third one.

tribal jay
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Do you lose the run if you die on godhome

viral silo
hazy summit
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And have a tool that makes poison based attacks have increased 5% damage

tribal jay
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Bet

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Cause I wanna do mods

patent heath
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This is SilkSong discussion btw. Not Steel Soul.

tribal jay
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He just told me yes

hazy summit
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SS stands for steel soul

patent heath
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Snail Shaman.

opaque sigil
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*shaman stone

hazy summit
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SteelSoul-discussion

tribal jay
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Non existent

patent heath
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Shade Soul discussion when?

fiery burrow
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Soulscholar discussion

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What is the strongest race in Hallownest?

versed pollen
shell yacht
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i have a pasta fir this holyshaw

hazy summit
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My favorite steel soul moment was when steel soul Jim steeled all over the place

shell yacht
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crap phones dying

patent heath
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Why can so many things in HK be abbreviated to SS?

fiery burrow
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Spore Shroom

patent heath
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They were teasing SilkSong all along.

patent heath
opaque sigil
hazy summit
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Selder Sbug

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golden pawn
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Sender sug

fiery burrow
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shes sdead

hazy summit
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sHE beHAMBURGERved

runic atlas
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wasnt it she believed

hazy summit
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Yeah

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Got it wrong

patent heath
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What if SilkSong made a JoJo reference?

copper knot
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what if silksong made a

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a aa aaa uhh

hazy summit
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Bbq

patent heath
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Ok Furry Catboy Sans.

copper knot
patent heath
hazy summit
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runic atlas
copper knot
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imagine that being my greatest legacy

patent heath
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Shrue.

hazy summit
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SingSolk

copper knot
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“furry catboy sans, active in hkdisc and makes custom knights”

patent heath
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But anyway, I am gonna head out. Good night everyone.

hazy summit
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Gn

copper knot
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i should probably be eeping its 2 am

hazy summit
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Go eep

wheat sail
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Are you Asian

hazy summit
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You are the eepiest

wheat sail
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Tracking

copper knot
opaque sigil
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the accursed sphere 😔

copper knot
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we should make the earth flat

wheat sail
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Actually

hazy summit
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The earth is already flat

wheat sail
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Mhm

opaque sigil
runic atlas
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no it isnt

hazy summit
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Time zones are a myth

runic atlas
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it's shaped like hornet hollow knight

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duh

hazy summit
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Oh right

formal marsh
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Self destruct

copper knot
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round earth is a propaganda by big pharma and vaccines are forced by nasa or smth idk

hazy summit
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There should be Isaac items in silksong
And it should be a luck based game

fickle ivy
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I love this channel. There is always some weird conversation going on.

hazy summit
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I havent played hollow knight in a long time

silver oak
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Is a flat earth not also round

hazy summit
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No
Squared

fickle ivy
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Not if it is a maple leaf

copper knot
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flat earth is infinite

runic atlas
hazy summit
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Earth is Minecraft

copper knot
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dont ask me how the sun sets

hazy summit
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Its coded like that

runic atlas
hazy summit
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My uncle is a dev he told me

fickle ivy
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Fire extinguisher, obviously

hazy summit
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He also told me theyre shutting down earth tommorow

fickle ivy
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Crap, but all my stuff is here

hazy summit
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Make a backup

copper knot
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no fucking way they are porting earth to earth 2.0

hazy summit
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I'm uploading "granny" to the cloud

fickle ivy
copper knot
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its disappointing how they’re not allowing us to play in the old server tho

hazy summit
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My condolences

fickle ivy
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consolences

hazy summit
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Thats why they are shutting down earth

fickle ivy
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Worth it

hazy summit
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Lol

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We might not play silksong

fickle ivy
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At least we can rewatch people play the demo for the 3,067,281 time

hazy summit
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My favorite moment is minute 15:58

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From the treehouse thingy

fickle ivy
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My favorite is frame 69,420 where Hornet does the ok hand sign.

hazy summit
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I might be crazy cause i don't remember that

copper knot
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my favourite part is where they

hazy summit
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They 🔥

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Man i need the game

copper knot
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yeah its so damn cool when they

fickle ivy
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my part they

wheat sail
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Found my old friend

hazy summit
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Tyey

hazy summit
fickle ivy
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Your friend rockin that mid 2000s aesthetic

hazy summit
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What is that

wheat sail
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Used this around late 2000s

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Has a billion ds games in it

rapid topaz
fickle ivy
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So serious question, what mechanic in Silksong are you all looking forward to the most?
For me I am most looking forward to the combat movement.

runic atlas
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actual platforming tbh

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the swishes and swooshes hornet can do

runic atlas
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but like specifically when outside of combat

fickle ivy
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both great answers

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I really hope there are no definitely best tools

runic atlas
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SS becomes RoR2 are there are some objectively best tools

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how do yall react

hazy summit
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However
I'm looking forward exploration the most

runic atlas
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oh yeah actually

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the new areas

hazy summit
runic atlas
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imma be enjoying those like the best cheesecake in my life

fickle ivy
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Exploration was my favorite part of Hollow Knight

hazy summit
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They look so interesting

runic atlas
hazy summit
runic atlas
hazy summit
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Almost

runic atlas
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kinda yeah

fickle ivy
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I mean spite, but screw it, I am rolling with it

hazy summit
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Seems like some tools will be useful when exploring

rapid topaz
hazy summit
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Hornet uses a spike tool to reach a high place

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In one part of the trailer

rapid topaz
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when you're doing streaking there's always a workaround even if your items are mid, a coherent build can carry

fickle ivy
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Exploration and Difficulty were the highlight of my first playthrough. Combat and Hall of Gods were the highlight of my repeat playthroughs.

runic atlas
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yeah but ror1 or rorr are better in the item department

wheat sail
rapid topaz
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I got a friend who is unable to think on long term for RoR2 and it's funny how they consider some items being "good" while I'm like, well, this is just gonna become near useless soon

fickle ivy
rapid topaz
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Good example is tome of ghorr like yeah stage 1 and 2 it's decent but at some point you really wanna scrap it

runic atlas
wheat sail
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🏃‍♂️

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(commando sweep)

runic atlas
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candle yummy

rapid topaz
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Also many greens items aren't that good lol I rather get 3 speed white items than any green

wheat sail
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Yeah higher tier doesn't mean good automatically

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For some you need good stats to make use of

rapid topaz
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yeah

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The double jump is probably one of the best for streaking

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meaning no reset runs

wheat sail
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That ones fun for moving around

rapid topaz
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like even 1 feather is strong

wheat sail
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Or I like the one that makes you jump forward

rapid topaz
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dodging is super good and many enemies can't do anything when you're in air

rapid topaz
runic atlas
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fuck now i wanna go play rorr yall stopping me from my translation journey

wheat sail
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Also drones are very good cause many monsters try to kill them and miss a lot

runic atlas
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ignore that im the one who brought the game up in the first place

rapid topaz
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RoR2 "meta" is pretty much about money and rushing ultimately, if you're able to full loot the maps fast, you basically win

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I don't see why you would stay and kill enemies

wheat sail
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I like watching the light leave their eyes

rapid topaz
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also full looting means outscaling, meaning enemies are easier, meaning you keep your pace. and if you can get some speed items on the path it's even better

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that's why credit card is super busted lol

wheat sail
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Mhm

tawdry valley
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Someone gets it

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That being said, run context matters. There are plenty of situations where more items would be more useful than unscaled enemies

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Just be reasonable. Full looting isn’t common because being thorough isn’t usually a good idea

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If you’ve looted most of the stage and killed the boss, maybe don’t take a lap around the stage for like, one white or green, before entering it

wheat sail
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I usually just try to get what I can in like a 5 or 6 minutes

tawdry valley
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At the same time, stage 2 seems to have a really good printer. Maybe you should full loot the stage and only pickup items that you want to get printed

fresh copper
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I give myself an absolute max of 8 mins a stage and leave once I got a fair amount of items and killed my boss

tawdry valley
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Or if you’re loader, and map traversal movement doesn’t matter anyways

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Every stage has items. Leave once the stage your on is giving you items slower than the next one will

rapid topaz
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Yeah I think it's a matter of priorities and decisions. for example I found myself often in cases where some chests where super far away because my pathing was bad, so I decided to save 3.5 minutes of walking by going to the TP and I'm pretty sure this carried the run... at least I felt like it was better by experience
Also I'm starting to ignore more and more of the Luck Shrines. I feel like it should be the least thing you do in a map, if you have excess of money or something

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I know luck shrines can give equipements as well sooo huh

tawdry valley
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Chance shrines are amazing outside of stage 1

rapid topaz
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I'm sure they are, I just win my runs anyways without caring too much about them lol

tawdry valley
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if you spend your first 17 gold on a chance shrine though? Your own problem if it’s a blank

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It’s also worth noting that scaling is of great concern nearly exclusively in monsoon.

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2 extra mins a stage in rainstorm is nowhere near as bad as in monsoon. So it depends on the player

runic atlas
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Hopefully GearBox balances out the items and actually makes the upcoming dlc good I really need the incentive to play RoR2 again

tawdry valley
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If looting items is fun and you aren’t a fan of monsoon, that’s your prerogative

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If you wanna scrape claw and strategize for a god run despite the odds, you will need to make decisions in the context of time and scaling

fresh copper
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Idk if yall care any, I got pretty lucky tho recently, with 4 reds by stage 3, 2 hardlight afterburners, a desk plant, and n'kuhana's opinion

tawdry valley
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Maybe void items are a bit busted but that’s it.

rapid topaz
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I was grinding eclipse back there so Monsoon yeah
watched a few videos about tips for RoR2 and that actually validated some of the thoughts I had about stuff
Like how the recycler and credit cards are so busted on long term, this just sounds obvious

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seeing the game design of this rogue lite

tawdry valley
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Recycler is an extremely valuable spawn yes.

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If it’s on eclipse then you can obviously imagine why

rapid topaz
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Also I don't play with blue items except the ones I find on the maps. No real reasons, personnal challenge, I prefer relying on the rng loots than the shop

tawdry valley
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I don’t always agree with “credit card good” because it needs to happen early for it to work out

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After that it also relies on multi shop rng

tawdry valley
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Just practice good habits and look around for equipment barrels before using your multishops

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Especially if there’s like, a green multishop with 3 amazing greens

rapid topaz
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My isaac experience makes me do stuff like that

tawdry valley
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Oh then you know exactly what I mean.

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Hedge your bets. Fight rng at every turn

rapid topaz
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except if I'm ultra slow so that I rather keep on a path of looting that back and forth and loose time

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I mean, counting on the chances of a card

tawdry valley
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I was thinking in terms of stage 5 but ye

rapid topaz
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idk depends on the mood as well

tawdry valley
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Also if it’s eclipse 8 - taking a minute or even 5 to sort your build out before the moon is important

rapid topaz
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true true

tawdry valley
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At minimum take a stage 4 or 5 scrapper to keep your build clean

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You know or have heard this already so I’ll shut up

rapid topaz
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Don't worry lol

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You're more experienced so it's always good to hear

tawdry valley
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I don’t think so, I haven’t touched enough of E8

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Full achievements and logbook though

rapid topaz
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I was also a big original ror player so I got the "mindset", kind of, already when going on RoR2

tawdry valley
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sweet

rapid topaz
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Like I knew it was a matter of balancing time and looting

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Just didn't knew exactly how doing it

tawdry valley
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Sweet

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I played ror2 on early access release. Was super hype to see the game grow

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Never played the original though

rapid topaz
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I wanna do it at some point

runic atlas
tawdry valley
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Logbook* with an asterix though. Voiding log is annoying

tawdry valley
runic atlas
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Reminder of the famous "Is item balance really that important?" from one of the devs

tawdry valley
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I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it does have an influence on the game

runic atlas
tawdry valley
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All items are good. Some are better

rapid topaz
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I think the philosophy of Risk of Rain isn't to make it competitive so yeah... Item balancing doesn't sound that important.

runic atlas
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Some are straight up trash and some are god tier

runic atlas
tawdry valley
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Most are great, some are very good and some are very bad

tawdry valley
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Believe it or not- if you pay 50 gold for a random green item - the devs don’t want the 50 gold to always be worth the same amount of run advantage

wheat sail
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Do you guys play with mods

rapid topaz
# runic atlas It is though, otherwise all runs end up looking the same

Okay but if all items are balanced the looting optimization during the run is less existent, or even meaningless, which is a fun part of the game to me.
If I know I could just loot anything on the maps and don't care about scrapping because all items are decent enough... I'll just don't really care anymore and rush loot anything on the floor

tawdry valley
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Ideally you get more or less benefit, and then more or less again - but this time based on your run context

tawdry valley
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This is only the case if you like to loop

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Because if you loop enough times, the only way your build can really change is with like 2 lunars and/or your equipment

wheat sail
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Some items are probably bad on purpose anyway cause I'if everything's good then most runs will be pretty samey

tawdry valley
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Character and items be damned

rapid topaz
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This is how TBOI handled it as well

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It might be less satisfying in some runs, but if you manage to scrap the right one, explore, find workaround, you can pretty much win every runs

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(and with some skill of course)

tawdry valley
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TLDR: Getting a bison steak printer instead of a crit glasses printer isn’t a balancing issue

wheat sail
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Luck 🤷‍♀️

rapid topaz
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Honestly I think some items people consider trash are decent
Like medkits. It's nothing crazy but it's useful, I got 10 of them one time using soups and I'm pretty sure that was a run saver

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With so low survivability in the build

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the % of health back is strong

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stacks linearily

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so really not that bad

tawdry valley
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Steak and squid are the main trash items I think of

rapid topaz
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squid?

tawdry valley
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Squid polyp

rapid topaz
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Oh huh

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yeah agreed

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Though there is a funny use with the Soda Distributor

tawdry valley
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Everything else has a situation where it kinda goes hard

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Bandolier, wire

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Printing bandolier as loader is really bad but it’s hilarious

rapid topaz
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Yeah grublaugh

tawdry valley
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Your punches are trash but you have plenty to share feelspkman

rapid topaz
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You know, I know many aspects are bad but for some reasons I still take them because the skin color change is sick

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And I know I'll probably win anyways (in some scenarios)

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So I don't mind not optimizing

tawdry valley
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Bison steak is meta on acrid

rapid topaz
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And it's so rare. Like there's some sort of satisfaction of finishing run with them, you won't get many in regular eclipse runs anyways

tawdry valley
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It’s not a run that means anything if he’s not munching on steak

rapid topaz
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TRUE

rapid topaz
tawdry valley
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Oh aspects

rapid topaz
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I think it's just color swap but maybe not all of them

tawdry valley
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Yeah aspects are rare enough that I just run em

rapid topaz
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But honestly

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getting Aspect of fire at stage 1 is crazy

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fire effect at every shots

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that's the one I think is worth it for a full run as well

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because it justifies keeping the Fire Damage booster green items

tawdry valley
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Lightning is probably better

tawdry valley
rapid topaz
tawdry valley
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Aspects also depend on survs

rapid topaz
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basically GG, so much dps on mithrix, you don't rely on enemy kills anymore

tawdry valley
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fire is mid on arti but amazing on acrid for example

rapid topaz
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for the R only

tawdry valley
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It’s mostly for death mark but yeah it’s great on both blight and poison

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Fire is just super easy to scale with ignition now

rapid topaz
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yeah

tawdry valley
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I usually forget to open modman lol

delicate lichen
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-Y

tawdry valley
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But I mostly use QoL stuff and try out the fun custom survs

rapid topaz
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I tried the procedural maps mod for RoR2 but otherwise I wanna keep it vanilla until 100%

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that's just a personnal thing

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same for TBOI

tawdry valley
tawdry valley
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It’s too embarrassing to walk up to an empty chest because it looked closed downhill

rapid topaz
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I see the appeal for that lol

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That... should be a feature in the game imo imo

tawdry valley
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Then there’s stuff for low end machines that fixes particles but whatever

rapid topaz
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I just don't really like the fast printers or, the other stupid one, which is no teleporter wait

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I saw someone play with it I was like.. heh

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the waiting for teleporter is an inherent part of the design

tawdry valley
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Yeah if it augments game design it’s kinda off limits for me

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For both of those, I think there’s a mod that artificially adds time that you gain

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ie fast opened chests and prints add 1 second

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Or something

rapid topaz
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Like maybe you'll find this fun but after some point I'm pretty sure it will become too easy just because of game experience + the fact that scaling matters less as you are faster

glacial wren
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the big silk

tawdry valley
delicate lichen
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bait used to be believable

rapid topaz
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good idea

tawdry valley
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Yeah it’s fun to pick up the items that are best for your situation

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But then like

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Every run is identical

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Command meme runs > command runs

rapid topaz
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I would play with those mods when I'm sure I have done everything just by principle

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Because I admit, broken runs are fun once in a while

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Not too much though

tawdry valley
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Do what’s fun obviously

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Most people just find that fun comes with challenge

rapid topaz
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I personally love the eclipse mindset because it looks a lot more like the rogue lites I play

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It's tense and risky

tawdry valley
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I’d never have bothered with eclipse until I saw they decreased enemy attack cooldown

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Sounds amazing

rapid topaz
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Yeah

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Well at first the appeal for RoR2 was the visuals and musics, I didn't really cared too much about actually finishing it

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But the gameplay loop was too good. Got addicted lol

runic atlas
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yall should play tunic tbh

rapid topaz
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Tunic is awesome!

runic atlas
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and also chants of sennaar

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and also outer wilds

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peak metroidbrania tbh

rapid topaz
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Outer Wilds is my favourite game so yeah

runic atlas
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and that's why you're based

rapid topaz
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I tried it in VR recently, the mod is great

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better than other VR games I've tried

runic atlas
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my pc is too weak to handle the vr mod but i truly cant wait to get a powerful enough one to try it

rapid topaz
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you'd love it I'm pretty sure shroompog

runic atlas
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i would tbh

tawdry valley
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I think I’d joyride in the ship till I threw up

rapid topaz
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I had scareness of the || black hole || already on regular game
I can't tell how much I feared this in vr

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idk there's something unsetlling about this

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I know It's no big deal but just seeing it is something

wheat sail
rapid topaz
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so it would be more like a QoL thing

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that should counterweight it

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I'm gonna watch FMAB, have a good day everyone

runic atlas
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cya

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ill also be doing that soon

rapid topaz
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Poggers

dim otter
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Hi

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Hi

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Nvm

wheat sail
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Also good anime

true karma
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guys
hornet's theme is technically silksong

silver oak
#

hm truth

hollow terrace
#

Hornet’s theme is a motif in lace’s theme

frank mist
#

Where game 😔

hollow terrace
#

Lacenet sweep of course

charred surge
white sailBOT
#

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. hollowpins

sinful flare
#

risk... of rain 2

fiery burrow
shell yacht
#

alr getting my knife

frank mist
#

I just come in here once every 3 months and cry i know

fiery burrow
#

Whats your knife gonna do

#

Its already begun breaking down and its soon to be digested

shell yacht
#

shit

true karma
warped rock
true karma
#

we need as much news as we possibly can

warped rock
#

i saw someone playing a dev build of it earlier today

#

whatever that means

true karma
#

i am going to make a prediction
we will know silksong's release date by the end of this year

warped rock
#

i say if it doesnt release this year it wont release next year for a while

#

cuz of gta6

fiery burrow
#

Guh

shell yacht
#

you cant be serious

fiery burrow
#

Team Cherry takes a holiday so they can spend time in gta6

warped rock
fiery burrow
#

New blogpost comes out, its just a review

shell yacht
fiery burrow
#

A joke so funny not even the person making it could resist pepegamaster ing

shell yacht
#

i wish i was laughing

#

im perpetually hivetired

#

without the coffee

runic atlas
#

Chat chat where is sil-💥

fiery burrow
#

hivetired is so me

#

(I never drink coffee I'm just grumpy sometimes)

glacial wren
#

cheam cherry

#

I recently cut off coffee and it's made little difference

runic atlas
#

Cheam Terry

fiery burrow
#

Shorterm it may not make a difference but drinking it frequently probably isn't great for your body

glacial wren
#

the human body works best with variety anything indulged is probably a bad idea

#

unless you aren't human go nuts

cunning geode
#

i too enjoy a variety of illegal drugs

shell yacht
#

i almost cut caffeine again, feels great

coarse leaf
glacial wren
#

industrialism

#

yes caffeine is physically addictive

fiery burrow
runic atlas
sinful flare
glacial wren
#

it was on reddit so it must be true!

cunning geode
sinful flare
#

also did you see the level editor for monolith

cunning geode
#

yes i did

sinful flare
#

did you spot the silly little minigame in it

cunning geode
#

no not yet

#

i have not tried using it yet

sinful flare
#

tho im stuck at 2nd boss

glacial wren
#

energy drinks can jeopardize your health and/or just kill you it's kind of funny

#

I need all of the energy.... ALL OF IT

cyan forum
#

Guys, where on Maslow's hierarchy of needs is the conflict of your favorite pieces of media centered around.

charred surge
#

mfw when I see some bloke on tumblr complaining that hollow knight is a bad game because a charm used to make collecting money easier isn’t optimal for boss fights (hk may not be flawless from a design perspective but with how much this person seems to loathe every single fucking aspect of this game I question why they bother playing at all)

opaque sigil
#

like yeah charm balance is ass but that is not the way to argue that point pepegamaster

shell yacht
#

you dont get it tammo, they need their geo magnet but its useless against NKG!!!!

sinful flare
glacial wren
#

I don't need wayward compass to fight the radiance this game is stupid

sinful flare
fallen blaze
#

How come every charm isnt op HK sucks

marsh wadi
#

Hey guys is silksong out yet?

runic atlas
glacial wren
#

I think silksong is undoubtedly "in"

marsh wadi
#

awww shucks. I'll check again some other time

fiery burrow
sinful flare
#

wait........

glacial wren
#

greed should give you all of the money

sinful flare
#

holy fuck

glacial wren
#

like in real life

fallen blaze
#

Greed should kill you irl

sinful flare
#

i feel like there needs to be a mod that makes every charm useful in combat

fallen blaze
#

Make it imo

tawdry valley
runic atlas
white sailBOT
#

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. hollowpins

sinful flare
#

like say compass would let you dash towards the location of the last enemy you hit with a cooldown of 10 seconds

tawdry valley
#

But it’s a singleplayer game, and printers are annoying.

glacial wren
#

bad idea

runic atlas
#

How typing "?sspsa" feels:

tawdry valley
#

Arguably one of the less offensive qol mod out there so yeah

fallen blaze
#

Compass is a heat seeking missile

#

He

sinful flare
#

true

tawdry valley
sinful flare
charred surge
# opaque sigil bruh what

“Criticism” of HK I’ve seen from this person :

  • You can’t dodge bosses!! or something
  • You sometimes to have to change charm setups for bosses
  • They can’t turn off the foreground?? (but apparently that be bad too because that would make dodge attacks easier?? Weren’t they just complaining about not being able to dodge???)
  • They got millibelle’d lol
  • Honestly I’m mostly pissed about how whiny they are about it lmao
fallen blaze
#

I ain't allat

runic atlas
#

I allat

opaque sigil
#

I can't think of any fights where the foreground is a problem

glacial wren
#

millibelle is kinda bullshit for first time players but finding her is like finding jesus again so it's all good

sinful flare
#

so it isnt purely cheating

fallen blaze
#

Tumblr

wheat sail
#

Part of printing is to frustrate you so making it faster is unfair

glacial wren
sinful flare
opaque sigil
#

hornet 2 just has like a few bits of grass it's not going to obscure anything

charred surge
# opaque sigil I can't think of any fights where the foreground is a problem

Yeah for some reason they DESPISE boss fights even tho tbh I think most of the boss fights except some of the dream warriors tbh are really fun; I don’t wanna sound like that kinda person but this guy kinda sounds like they have an honest to god skill issue lol; at least, they struggle with patience and the idea of needing to lose a few times and learning to dodge attacks

opaque sigil
#

'skill issue' and 'bosses not being designed to be killed on a sight read' are different

charred surge
glacial wren
#

I could see that if this game was like dark souls but you rarely have to brute force one part of the game without the option to go do something else for a while

#

there are some boss fights that just seem really annoying to deal with though especially as the difficulty curves up

fallen blaze
#

Hop on showdown

opaque sigil
#

there are some bosses you're supposed to meet, fight, die to, and decide to leave before fighting again

glacial wren
#

it'd be akin to criticizing pac-man for having too many ghosts

charred surge
#

Luckily I think perhaps the more annoying bosses (not necessarily the most difficult) are more optional, namely No Eyes and stuff I am not a fan of No Eyes, just STAY FUCKING STILL YOU FLOATING FUCK

fallen blaze
#

Mario has too many goomba

surreal terrace
#

There are a few boss fights that can be super super hard and yea it can feel@fustrating and annoying and even impossible esp to someone who doesn’t play games that much

#

hk was like one of my first games and I was playing on switch so some on the combat/mobility was a tad difficult because of the joystick

fallen blaze
#

Switch controls are fin÷

glacial wren
#

joy-cons are designed for baby fingers I'll die on this hill

surreal terrace
#

but if u don’t rlly have that ability to keep going after u lose then hk is just not for you straight up

fallen blaze
#

Zamnn

surreal terrace
#

It’s a great game in every regard n the joy is derived from beating them and realising how fun it was yykyk

#

and also world building and lore and character

glacial wren
#

like most games, if not just life itself, losing is fun

surreal terrace
#

but that part is definitely the reason why a lot of people don’t like it

fallen blaze
#

Without the losses the wins wouldn't feel as good

#

Typeeeeeshittt

surreal terrace
#

And also the ocmplete lack of direction at crossroads

charred surge
opaque sigil
#

crossroads is still pretty directed

surreal terrace
#

It took me SOOOO long to find out I was meant to go to the left to find green path

runic atlas
surreal terrace
#

And even then I had to ask my friend who introduced me to hk

fallen blaze
#

I've seen a guy complain that Hk doesnt have a difficulty system

glacial wren
#

mfs think they're anton ego because they don't like a thing

surreal terrace
#

It’s just do it or don’t do it

fallen blaze
#

No I meant that they wanted easy normal hard type tjing

surreal terrace
#

You have the choice not to do most things though

glacial wren
charred surge
#

Honestly I think the most confused I was first playing hk is where to go after hornet (and even then I knew you had to go to fungal wastes but it was more that I had a skill issue and got confused when I first got there)

fallen blaze
#

When I was bad at games I quit to gruzz mother

surreal terrace
#

Yh the easy normal hard is built into the completion of the game itself

fallen blaze
#

Then like 4 months later I was good

runic atlas
#

Where I was most confused was fungal wastes cause I didn't realize I could pogo the purple mushrooms

surreal terrace
#

At least fungal wastes is like cool tho

glacial wren
#

I got totally lost at the fungal wastes bc I didn't know the city of tears existed yet

surreal terrace
#

Crossroads is boring af by design

opaque sigil
#

it's the first area, it's designed to be the first area

surreal terrace
#

For a newbie yk

fiery burrow
surreal terrace
charred surge
surreal terrace
#

but just like imagine u hear great things abt the games worldbuiliding and stuff and then ur just stuck in this hollow area bc u can’t figure out where to go

charred surge
surreal terrace
#

there’s barely direction which IS a great thing but when ur a newbie you don’t know how to play the game

opaque sigil
#

crossroads is pretty heavily set up to deliver you right into greenpath

surreal terrace
#

I disagree

glacial wren
surreal terrace
#

Crossroads has a lot@of access to different places by design but it can be a little confusing for a new player

charred surge
opaque sigil
#

the greenpath door is something you're basically guaranteed to pass before beating fk, and you can see the baldur there. Then after ancestral mound, in case you forgot about that room, leaving that delivers you to the room right next to that door

surreal terrace
#

My solution to this is just having more green leaves coming out from the room or something idk

opaque sigil
#

the game routes you past the greenpath entrance twice

cunning geode
surreal terrace
#

maybe I literally just forgot about it

cunning geode
#

crossroads is well designed but it’s still up to the player to “figure it out”

fallen blaze
#

Tc so forgettable smh

surreal terrace
#

Like I rmbr I was so confused I had gknrb2 every room like wtf do I go lololol

fallen blaze
#

What is that abbreviation

opaque sigil
#

I mean even if you do that it won't take too long to find the right way

charred surge
surreal terrace
#

Right

#

It’s awesome

glacial wren
#

it's like getting lost in a big box retailer and finding your mom again it's delightful

charred surge
#

I confess that I cheated a bit with guides early on so I’m hoping to commit and truly figure things on my own with silksong

surreal terrace
#

I just want remember when I first played tho and like I had gone through kings pass and was exploring and I had no idea what I had to do to keep going

#

I don’t like using guides generally

#

I thought the lil big guy at the front of the room was the boss so I completely missed falsexhampion

glacial wren
#

who else is dropping off of the face of the earth when silksong releases

fallen blaze
#

Me toooooo

surreal terrace
#

Like it acc took me so long to get into green path like 5 hours it was acc so goofy

#

But once I stepped into green path I started LOVING the game

charred surge
hollow terrace
#

Forgotten crossroads more like forgotten BORING

fallen blaze
#

I thought that guard was a boss

#

I thought that was false knight cuz I was looking for the first boss

surreal terrace
#

Right

hollow terrace
#

fuck forgotten crossroads moss grotto is the best starter area

opaque sigil
#

I mean yeah

fallen blaze
#

And it whooped my ass so I rlly thought

surreal terrace
#

ARGEE

charred surge
surreal terrace
#

I liked ori guys that was so good

glacial wren
surreal terrace
#

My biggest hatred ws the fact I couldn’t fc the icy here cos I lost the damn gravity ball

versed pollen
#

Silksong releases so I go in this channel specifically to lie to new players without elaborating at all

surreal terrace
#

And also the hot area remains 99% or smething cos of the ending

glacial wren
versed pollen
#

Thanks

surreal terrace
versed pollen
#

I wouldn't make up such obviously false lies

marsh ibex
glacial wren
#

playtesters should start lying to everyone as a distraction tactic

versed pollen
#

Feb 31st

marsh ibex
#

then he got people mad

marsh ibex
#

do you like my pfp

glacial wren
#

goodness!

tawdry valley
#

Post the IP coward

versed pollen
#

It has HK so it's bad Imo

marsh ibex
versed pollen
#

WHAT

high hedge
marsh ibex
#

yeag

opaque sigil
high hedge
#

Frieren knight

marsh ibex
#

the pfp actually really crunches the quality

#

?av

white sailBOT
#
kingoclowns
Server Avatar
marsh ibex
#

comparisons sake

glacial wren
#

is this silksong?

marsh ibex
high hedge
#

So is she Frieren

marsh ibex
#

idk man

high hedge
#

Is that her name

marsh ibex
#

Yes

tawdry valley
versed pollen
#

That's for you to decide nerd

glacial wren
#

griefing noobs!!

cunning geode
#

minecraft fnaf roleplay server

tawdry valley
#

My brother in Christ you asked

#

Can the snapshots be loaded in multiplayer or nah

#

If you want something quick, try a trial chamber

glacial wren
#

heres a fun idea

#

silksong releases modders make a hornet boss fight mod hornet vs hornet whos the better hornet

opaque sigil
#

my money's on hornet

surreal terrace
#

U joking it has to be hornet

opaque sigil
#

are you fucking high

surreal terrace
#

are you low

opaque sigil
#

yes beesive

surreal terrace
glacial wren
#

perhaps another hornet could shore support for hornet 1 so its hornet 1, hornet 2 vs hornet, the origin hornet, for sure

#

like the mantis things

glacial wren
#

maybe it could be better with a four hornet tour de force

wide quartz
#

just finished punpun

fallen blaze
#

Hornet royale

exotic geyser
formal karma
#

I assume hollow knight hornet would be a complete joke as a boss in Silksong

fiery burrow
#

Hornet 2 when I pimpillo all her stupid stingshards out of her hands

rapid topaz
#

also hi Sarah shroompog

upbeat bear
marsh ibex
#

No it’s hollow knight

upbeat bear
#

girlpower in chat

fallen blaze
#

Always

upbeat bear
fallen blaze
#

Heaven

runic atlas
#

Tbh I hope Silksong accidentally violates the Geneva Convention

upbeat bear
remote ibex
#

True

runic atlas
#

It was a reference to the red cross but uh

#

Sure

fallen blaze
#

What's the Genevacon

runic atlas
charred surge
# fallen blaze What's the Genevacon

The Geneva Conventions are international humanitarian laws consisting of four treaties and three additional protocols that establish international legal standards for humanitarian treatment in war. The singular term Geneva Convention colloquially denotes the agreements of 1949, negotiated in the aftermath of the Second World War (1939–1945), which updated the terms of the two 1929 treaties and added two new conventions. The Geneva Conventions extensively define the basic rights of wartime prisoners, civilians and military personnel; establish protections for the wounded and sick; and provide protections for the civilians in and around a war-zone.

marsh ibex
#

No one saw anything

fiery burrow
#

Resting Grounds is pretty good on piano

#

Its a bit tricky on later parts though, lots of wrist motion

marsh ibex
fallen blaze
#

Xbox live

upbeat bear
marsh ibex
#

I miss her

fallen blaze
#

I saw it

#

What was it again

upbeat bear
#

YOU FIEND

fallen blaze
#

Deathbattle

upbeat bear
#

YOU DEVIL UPON MY SHOULDER

upbeat bear
#

YOU HORRID BEING WHO RESIDES IN MY HEAD TO PESTER AND TORMENT ME

remote ibex
#

:3

upbeat bear
#

MAY YOU BE CAST INTO BRIMSTONE FOR ETERNITY

remote ibex
#

Ok but is she cool

fallen blaze
upbeat bear
#

MAY YOUR DESCENDANTS BE TRAPPED IN THE HOTTEST PRECIPICE OF HELL

fallen blaze
#

Real

upbeat bear
#

MAY YOU BE TORN ASUNDER VIA WHEEL YOU WRETECHED CREATURE

upbeat bear
remote ibex
#

Wha

#

Fell?

upbeat bear
#

yeah

wide quartz
#

i fell from the light

fallen blaze
#

Talk or should I fight

upbeat bear
#

im too busy being sapphic to type correctly

upbeat bear
remote ibex
#

Why are they a loser

marsh ibex
#

bazinga

wide quartz
#

DANGIT JOKER I WAS GONNA SAY THAT

high hedge
wide quartz
#

im joining in with the kill joker movement

marsh ibex
#

Damn

upbeat bear
fallen blaze
#

Yowzers

upbeat bear
#

thats who I am smiten by

marsh ibex
remote ibex
#

Idk what frat means

marsh ibex
#

what’s wrong with you

upbeat bear
#

a lot

high hedge
marsh ibex
remote ibex
#

OHHH THE FALL RISK ASSESSMENT TOOL OF COURSE

fallen blaze
#

Frats dont seem so bad

high hedge
fiery burrow
#

Alcohol more like peak

remote ibex
fallen blaze
#

Shh

formal karma
#

sure but are frats even like that anymore?

upbeat bear
fallen blaze
#

Yeh

high hedge
# fallen blaze Shh

(Don’t look at the higher intensity of assaults against female students around high fraternity populations)

formal karma
#

people in this chat are saying yes so imma assume no

high hedge
#

The movies make Frats seem fun though

remote ibex
upbeat bear
#

I could be with her rn if I wasnt such a fucking coward...

remote ibex
#

Frats more like rats

runic atlas
upbeat bear
remote ibex
#

Hats more like cats

surreal terrace
fallen blaze
#

Cats more like drats

upbeat bear
high hedge
#

Sorority

hollow terrace
#

Rhyming is banned

upbeat bear
surreal terrace
#

Lhinclover

wide quartz
#

cat in the hat

remote ibex
#

Spats more like SATs

fallen blaze
#

Sorority

high hedge
remote ibex
fiery burrow
#

It ain't a crime to rhyme 😔

upbeat bear
#

its exactly what it sounds like

hollow terrace
#

Calling the MODS

surreal terrace
#

Btw is SAT meant to be hard /srs

fallen blaze
#

What's the sat

surreal terrace
#

I can’t tell

high hedge
upbeat bear
#

now if this is cause you smart or cooked thats on you

surreal terrace
#

I’m an au girlie but my friends have done it and they’ve score rlly rlly high on it and describe it as like a GA test

golden pawn
#

i finally set up a paypal and used my own money for stuff weaverparty

upbeat bear
marsh ibex
#

I heard illegal rhyming was occurring in this channel?

fallen blaze
#

Cashapp

#

No way jose

golden pawn
surreal terrace
#

kind of like naplan? But naplan is easy af

upbeat bear
marsh ibex
#

is it time for a search

high hedge
fallen blaze
#

Wont find any rhymes on me

high hedge
#

None that I can see

runic atlas
hollow terrace
#

Moderators please stop these traitors

surreal terrace
#

The plight to lightly fight the mighty knight

runic atlas
violet path
surreal terrace
hollow terrace
marsh ibex
#

fifteen years dungeon

high hedge
marsh ibex
violet path
#

GOD NO PLEASE

surreal terrace
#

I don’t know why people say orange is the hardest word to rhyme when purple exists

runic atlas
fallen blaze
#

Nurple

runic atlas
#

Ourple?

upbeat bear
remote ibex
#

Burp...le

runic atlas
#

Hurdle

fiery burrow
fallen blaze
#

Getting caught would make me distraught

surreal terrace
#

Oh right

empty bluff
#

This is the year

surreal terrace
#

I might just search the rhymes tonight

runic atlas
#

Aight that's it what's the next word keep em coming

fiery burrow
surreal terrace
empty bluff
#

I can feel it in the air

surreal terrace
remote ibex
#

Sometimes I feel like punching people

runic atlas
violet path
#

nuh uh

empty bluff
#

Elbow

violet path
#

headbutt

runic atlas
#

Nahhhh

empty bluff
fallen blaze
#

Gun

violet path
runic atlas
empty bluff
#

Nah just a kick is the best

upbeat bear
empty bluff
runic atlas
#

Nahh

upbeat bear
surreal terrace
runic atlas
#

Knee in stomach

surreal terrace
fallen blaze
#

Eh

upbeat bear
empty bluff
white sailBOT
#
fiddyyyy
Server Avatar
upbeat bear
remote ibex
#

Nah, I'd home

fallen blaze
#

Nah I'd win

surreal terrace
#

Nah I’d cry

#

Tfw ur piano teacher hops in his car and abandons you

fallen blaze
#

What's ftw

remote ibex
#

Nah id adapt

surreal terrace
#

That feeling oh

surreal terrace
violet path
remote ibex
#

Nah id adopt

surreal terrace
violet path
#

that is not a real word 😭

surreal terrace
#

Mitch would disagree

remote ibex
surreal terrace
violet path
surreal terrace
remote ibex
#

I prefer a bridge

fallen blaze
#

I was gonnasaythat

uncut citrus
violet path
#

you just did

violet path
surreal terrace
remote ibex
fallen blaze
#

F minus

violet path
#

wait that doesnt really work scratch that

upbeat bear
surreal terrace
#

CRINGE DOESNT RHYMEch

remote ibex
#

Cringe doesn't rhyme BITCH

surreal terrace
#

oh shit that’s goodch

remote ibex
upbeat bear
fallen blaze
#

Nah I'd rhyme

surreal terrace
#

nah I’d crime

upbeat bear
remote ibex
upbeat bear
surreal terrace
#

nah I’d 💁‍♀️🤹🎭

fallen blaze
#

Tipping hand, juggling, performing arts

surreal terrace
#

…. Mime

upbeat bear
surreal terrace
#

the joke was past it’s prime beastcry

orchid cliff
#

Metroid Prime?

violet path
orchid cliff
upbeat bear
violet path
#

what 😭

remote ibex
#

I love subnautica

upbeat bear
violet path
#

im too busy playing lame games

#

like fortnite

lyric urchin
#

Sorry to interfere. I'm new to the community and would like to ask. Is silksong is sequel to hollow knight or prequel?

lyric urchin
#

Um... OK? Sorry

upbeat bear
#

you have a better chance asking a fucking magic 8 ball

remote ibex
#

We know so little about it that we can't be sure tho

lyric urchin
#

That's kinda sad

upbeat bear
remote ibex
#

Yeah

lyric urchin
#

I didn't knew there is so little news about the game

fiery burrow
#

mb

marsh ibex
fiery burrow
fiery burrow
#

No this is the channel for Silksong questions, the only other place is #hk-general

fallen blaze
#

Mfs cant ask silksong questions in ss discussion

fiery burrow
#

?tag offtopic

white sailBOT
#

dynoError No tag offtopic found.

fiery burrow
#

?tag info offtopic

white sailBOT
#

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

upbeat bear
fallen blaze
#

Tag fail laugh

upbeat bear
#

across the entire internet

remote ibex
upbeat bear
#

cat spotted in chat

charred surge
fiery burrow
#

I've discovered peak gif grubomg

flat remnant
#

they asked me for a pic, and i sent smoking tomato
they blocked me. i realized they asked for a pic of my face. i, a fool, sent a pic of my soul

upbeat bear
#

the failed lord of filth and decay is also here

fiery burrow
upbeat bear
fiery burrow
#

I am the oracle.

upbeat bear
#

then ask yourself dummy

charred surge
fiery burrow
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If you TRIED you'd send an image of a SNAPPING SHRIMP

upbeat bear
uncut citrus
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shut up dummy

upbeat bear