sk-discussion

[ember bobcat]

how did i lie?

[quartz cave]

Joky break him in half like a glowstic

[marsh ibex]

the messages were not from mossbag’s server

you will be sent to the bowels of the server

[ember bobcat]

they are idk what to tell you

[marsh ibex]

tell me the truth blud

[ember bobcat]

i am

[marsh ibex]

because I have already summarily proved they are not in several regards

[ember bobcat]

ask blue and the other guy then?

or just go up

[marsh ibex]

You will be set ablaze and dipped in the river Acheron for your crimes

[olive bobcat]

You can't talk to colors, idiot

[glacial wren]

silkczsong (in Polish)

[ember bobcat]

in what chat do you want me to type then?

[flat remnant]

type some bitches methinks

[sage void]

[flat remnant]

[olive bobcat]

[ember bobcat]

[trim estuary]

are you silly

[sage void]

yes

[formal marsh]

i cant believe 'methinks' is a proper word

[trim estuary]

methinks thats a good thing

WOAH WHY IS THE FORTNITE UPDATE 47GB

[charred surge]

Methinks you’ve a skill issue

[flat remnant]

the lady doth protest too much methinks

[formal marsh]

that is the context it sounds like it'd be used in

[flat remnant]

why he bloue

[smoky nebula]

Go read Shakespeare

[indigo nymph]

meow

[smoky nebula]

True

[indigo nymph]

[flat remnant]

also the "you are a saucy boy"

[smoky nebula]

This is normal language I have no clue what you're talking about

[flat remnant]

[smoky nebula]

(The word methinks is used at least twice in Macbeth btw)

[glacial wren]

I DEMAND SILKSONG THIS VERY INSTANT! else I fart on official hollow knight merchandise in protest....

[smoky nebula]

Also I think we should colloquially refer to people born via c-section as Macduffs or Macbeth slayers

[glacial wren]

a trailer where hornet does the same things as in the other trailers but it's definitely different this time

zote is there

[fiery burrow]

I'd hate to imagine Silksong fans waiting at a resturant

Waiter!!! I demand an update on how the food is going!!! It looked good on the menu, why is it taking so long????

[elfin reef]

Lmao

[glacial wren]

45 minutes for a steak does the chef hate me and my entire family?

[elfin reef]

Silksong wait has been a long time tbf

[flat remnant]

just eat the waiter at that point

[elfin reef]

And it’s going to be a while before we get news

I too wish they were a little more communicative

[hollow terrace]

Im tired what this chat is saying

I WANT SILKSONG NEWS

WHEN IS THE GAME COMING OUT

[fiery burrow]

Yeah you have to cook the steak for as long as it needs to be so its delicious

[elfin reef]

After so long you start to worry if they’re burning it to a crisp

[fiery burrow]

Also in this case you also need to port the steak and translate it

[wheat sail]

I'm tired of you being tired of chat saying that

[fiery burrow]

HK took from 2014-2018, Silksong is a lot less rushed as well

I used and too much

[elfin reef]

I definitely don’t mind waiting

I’m sure it’ll be worth it

[glacial wren]

they're raising a steer cut them some slack

[elfin reef]

But I’m just saying it might be nice to hear from them a little more often

[glacial wren]

I think they must be having fun so all the power to them

[fiery burrow]

They don't have to eat cheap foods and work 10 hours a day as well

[elfin reef]

Wait they aren’t working on silksong 24/7 wtf

[raw leaf]

They aren’t !!?!?!?😱😱😱😭😭😭💀💀💀💀

[cerulean sable]

unironically

i think i mentioned this before already but you know how TC said they werent really aiming for a genre while making the game? and that the game itself is often mentioned as an outlier in the metroidvania sphere

[raw leaf]

I could finish silksong in a day 👍

[glacial wren]

can someone abduct team cherry and make them work in a sweatshop making funny low effort bug games every year forever

[cerulean sable]

i feel like while Silksong is going to be still kinda structured like, i feel like it wont really be tied 100% as metroidvania in terms of what TC is aiming now

like were gonna see components bleed in from inspiration from other games harder

[raw leaf]

I hope silksong is under 11 dollars

[glacial wren]

silksong is the skyrims of dark souls of zeldas of

it's gonna be great or greatly convoluted either way it seems to be LONG

like at least twice as long as hollow knights main story

[cerulean sable]

ehh i dont think long development time = 100h game

[elfin reef]

I’m pretty sure in some interview it was said that the game is pretty short but there’s a lot of optional content

[glacial wren]

maybe not

[cerulean sable]

they didnt specifically say it was short

but like they did mention they can easily breeze the game now

its probably gonna be a case of game is actually 10~ hours but the optional content will inflate that by like 3-5x

[elfin reef]

I think a big complaint will be that the game is shorter/not as big as people anticipated given the development time

[glacial wren]

expectations are bad to live by

[cerulean sable]

first playthrough is probs gonna be around 20-25hs

thats assuming you dont go for 100% which is the same case for HK

[elfin reef]

Throw in silk soul and it’s probably 100 hours to do everything

That’s my guess

[cerulean sable]

also more dev hours doesnt always mean more content, sometimes a lot of it can just be revisiting and refining older stuff

as you further progress you also start developing more skills and insight

[elfin reef]

The graphics are really good

Also a lot more people will finish quicker

[glacial wren]

one could say they are making it smooth like a certain material

velvet

[elfin reef]

I spent a lot of time dying in my first hk playthrough

But now that I’m familiar with the game silksong will probably be easier

[cerulean sable]

and you go back and refurbish the early game stuff to raise them up to the standard of your newest work

weve seen this as far as Edge where there was a lot of added details to the art like the scorchmarks in Deep Docks which wasnt there before on the Treehouse demo

again theyre breezing through game cuz they know it like the back of their hand

but for regular playthrough i still think its gonna be 20-30h non 100%

for the average player, theres going to be a lot of deaths, experimentation and in general just wandering around

[glacial wren]

I'm thinking if the premise of the game really is as simple as reaching the citadel probably yeah 20 hours or so

[cerulean sable]

they said that reaching the citadel is just half the goal

which is why Ari immediately shushed Wilbo

[glacial wren]

really

[cerulean sable]

yeah

[elfin reef]

We’re probably all pulling all nighters when ss drops so we’ll probably beat it in a day tbh

[cerulean sable]

it was on the Edge Magazine

[glacial wren]

enlightening this changes things

what

[cerulean sable]

something something
William: "Well, really reaching the Citadel isnt just your main goal, its just your halfway point and from there on ou-"
Ari: "Hey dont spoil too much, they dont need to hear it"

let me find the actual snippet

[glacial wren]

ari wears the pants at team cherry clearly

[cerulean sable]

fuck i cant find my copy

but im not joking, we had discussions about it here for a couple of times now

hence its kinda soft accepted that reaching the citadel is more like reaching COT in HK

like its the "main goal" but not the final one

whether or not it will be the point of the game where it opens up like CoT, we dont know

[elfin reef]

Do you reckon we’ll get another true final boss after the main one?

[flat remnant]

a giant spool with thread on it

[cerulean sable]

i dont think TC will use the term "true final boss" cuz you know, all endings are canon

but for a secret ending / harder final boss? yeah

my only issue is i hope they seperate it this time

[wheat sail]

All endings are canon

😪

[cerulean sable]

i mean not like in HK where both THK and Rad was integrated together and you had to fight THK over and over

this also meant THK in itself can feel anticlimatic

because they needed to be balanced around the fact that youll go through them for Radiance

so yeah, the regular final boss should be honestly around NKG difficulty relatively IMO

or maybe im just biased, a bit lower than that maybe?

[wheat sail]

It should be procedurally generated auto runner level that adapts to your skill

[wheat sail]

Nkg would be too hard for normies

💪

[cerulean sable]

thats fair

right now from a scale of gruz to Abs Rad

i think its fair to say THK is around 4~ ish no?

rad being around more like a 7-8

[wheat sail]

Don't think I've fought abs rad so idk

I'd be ok with the final boss being a 5-7

[cerulean sable]

didnt fight abs rad

but yeah hence my frame of final boss is Radiance

i think something like Radiance but without the THK bit wouldve been a good regular final boss difficulty

most of the frustration from Radiance is more on 1. trying to DPS race the boss 2. THK sloggin stuff down

yes i know and i understand if your intention is to make THK feel like hes part of the Radiance fight

but theyre very disjoint fights together so instead of learning Rad's moveset youre just wailing on THK trying to finish it asap

[wheat sail]

Whys it a DPs race? It gets harder?

[cerulean sable]

at a certain point you have so much health you face tank them so it just comes out as frustrating

no i mean, at that point if youre fighting rad you can just melt THK anyway in like 20 seconds

oh you mean the Radiance point sorry

ive noticed to a lot of players, the advice tends to be "just abyss shriek her to death"

my friend did the same thing and he kept dying to the point he just said hes satisfied with the agme

[wheat sail]

Lol

[coarse leaf]

when is it coming out???

[wheat sail]

In a minute!!

[coarse leaf]

I am really excited.

[ripe cliff]

What's your opinion on having bosses present that are technically harder than the 'final' boss?

[cerulean sable]

then fast forward a day or so he watched playthroughs of players (including cr1tikal, he does this everytime he finishes a game)
realized how the fight isnt that actually too hard if you focus on dodging first, and i kept telling him not to DPS race radiance except for the half spike phase

my man went back and immediately killed her in 2 tries

[ripe cliff]

Like NKG

[elfin reef]

Good if they’re optional

[coarse leaf]

i got hk about a month ago and already beat it 8 times all endings

[cerulean sable]

hmmm for me id really prefer if the main game keeps a linear difficulty

[elfin reef]

.-.

[wheat sail]

I'd like it if they were well designed and interesting, not as concerned with who's harder

[cerulean sable]

but having optional bosses which are harder is fine

[coarse leaf]

bye

[cerulean sable]

condolences you will be waiting for a bit while longer for Silksong 🥴

we dont know whats going to happen this year

[elfin reef]

Probably over a year

[unborn dome]

base radiance is so easy to dps though

[cerulean sable]

also difficulty isnt always fun

[limpid sail]

hello guys is the silksong game on g2a real ?

[ripe cliff]

I kind of prefer the final boss to be the hardest personally. I'm totally fine with there being some really difficult optional bosses but I feel like the climax of the game should reflect that in difficulty. But that's just my preference

[unborn dome]

don't think so, but if you like malware you can try it out

[fiery burrow]

The most tragic boss should be the hardest unless deliberately weakened for the sake of more sadness

[cerulean sable]

she is but if you allocate the DPS race to dodge ratio by like 9:1, you will die

i learned how to DPS race her without constantly thinking about tanking all her hits

like its ok if i tank some hits, but frustrated first playthrough players at this point dont care and will just opt to spam abyss shriek without thinking about dodging

[ripe cliff]

THK is well designed imo in that it's meant to be tragic and not a final challenge
It feels anticlimactic because the Hollow Knight ending isn't meant to resolve the story

[cerulean sable]

hence my friend, who kept dying to radiance for 2-4 hours, the next day was able to beat her in 2 tries after he realized "oh wow i just need to slow down"

[wheat sail]

I guess me too but sometimes they make the main bosses not so hard so Normies can beat them

🤭

[ripe cliff]

DNM is the true resolution to the storyline, though TC will never admit it

[cerulean sable]

i mean it is the most narratively satisfying one

but like for TC's view they just dont like the idea of invalidating journeys

as the idea was always "your playthrough is the canon one" and thats fair because say a game has a sequel, and turns out half of your choices dont matter because the game retcons the other endings anyway

you just leave out unsatisfied

honestly weird comparison but despite loving alt historical games (Total War, Crusader Kings etc)
i still prefer having pseudo fantasy worlds because it feels wrong playing a faction and doing all these stuff + conquering the kingdoms when i know IRL thats not what happens

[unborn dome]

silksong's likely going to do the thing where they leave vague references to what happened after the previous game without outright confirming much

[cerulean sable]

yeah

despite that im still in the camp that i hope Silksong is a sequel

its just more narratively satisfying from both start and end for me

[fiery burrow]

TC admitted it in the game, they just think they are all canonically viable endings

[unborn dome]

we all know that silksong takes place during the time when the knight gets knocked out by the dreamers after hornet 1

[cerulean sable]

im not saying you cant do a good prequel, but the vibe it gives me is like saying "youll already know whats going to happen to Hornet in the end anyway" wheres sequels can provide a larger range of discussion in the "what ifs"

again alluding to the war games i mentioned, where i prefer pseudo historical worlds vs to actual real life because then im not tied by the end of it

then on the flipsides you have Bioware games like Dragon Age where importing your saves WILL show all your actions to the character

like 1 major character from Dragon Age Origins will show up differently in Dragon Age 2, ranging his cameo showing him either being the king in a sidequest, or some bitter drunkard in a tavern

[ripe cliff]

I feel like a sequel would work better if we felt like we were missing context about Hornet's story

[fiery burrow]

Prequels are only good if they put a heartbreaking revelation at the end or a nostalgic area at the end in its full glory

[ripe cliff]

But I mean, most gaps have already been filled already, soo

[glacial wren]

that's just wrong

[fiery burrow]

You're just wrong

[ripe cliff]

Sorry, wdym by admitting it in-game tho

[cerulean sable]

eh for me a sequel can still work as its probably going to explore Hornet's nature with regarding the Weavers, who they are and what part they played prior to ending up showing on Herrah's court

[ripe cliff]

Just from what the ending conveys?

[fiery burrow]

All the context and build up to DNM

[ripe cliff]

Alright just making sure you weren't referring to something I completely missed somehow

[fiery burrow]

yeah they put a note in the game saying "This is the only good conclusion to the game guys!!! Check it out!!!"

And then it gives a bunch of hints to get to Embrace the Void

[cerulean sable]

also it feels more satisfying in a way IMO in that a prequel is her showing how she became a badass in HK
while a sequel is "You already know how badass she is, but now youre about to see how much more further she can go compared to her version in Hallownest"

[fiery burrow]

I think its gonna be cool to see her at rock bottom in a sequel as well

And homesick

[ripe cliff]

I think it goes without saying that anything you can do to progress a given game's storyline is valid and canon in its own right, and the 'true' ending label doesn't immediately invalidate other endings

[cerulean sable]

theres tons of games that has multiple endings but still has direct sequels, some games handwave it by making all endings happen while others show direct continuation based on your choices, limited as they may be

i think overall tho Silksong is just gonna keep it vague as what happens in Hallownest is a matter of Hollow Knight, and the focus now is going to be Pharloom and how Weavers interplay with the story

[ripe cliff]

TC just takes extra care to solidify that fact

[ripe cliff]

Yeah this is like the most likely outcome

[analog forge]

Whats the cope nowadays?

[fiery burrow]

We dont need cope to be honest

Just hope and patience for a good game

[brittle garnet]

Be patient, get excited for events

[cerulean sable]

in the end though, im just happy the DNM ending is still satisfying as an ending, and while I understand some people's frustration of it being locked behind a 1 hour long boss rush, in the end EtV isnt strictly a "true golden" ending just because its the hardest one to attain

like its a reward for the hardest content sure

but youre not exactly missing out on a "true ending" in a traditional sense of it being the good/best ending

hell ETV is probably even worst narrative wise

provided you dont do the flower quest

[ripe cliff]

I feel like the reward of the P5 boss rush was definitely completing it rather than the ending

[fiery burrow]

ETV is a dream no more reskin presented in a misleading way

[ripe cliff]

That in its own right was a satisfying accomplishment, ETV is a mess that I don't really care for

[fiery burrow]

I care for it and hate it every day

[cerulean sable]

but in the end Pharloom doesnt really give a shit what happens in Hallownest. Hallownest being forgotten in time fits narratively, the world is moving and Pharloom has their own problems, and tying it with "actually Hornet has to go to Pharloom to stop the Shadelord from attacking other Kingdoms" is just gonna bog down Silksong's story and Pharloom's sense of agency IMO

its natural in a way that the events of Hallownest doesnt have a stake for the entire world for once

[ripe cliff]

To be blunt, hornet stopping the shadelord from invading pharloom would be really dumb from a narrative standpoint, even excluding the fact that it would require context from a secret ending from the previous game

[cerulean sable]

yeah definitely, just mentioned it because ive seen some complaints from other players claiming the game was ruined for them for having the """"golden ending""" be locked behind a really hard boss rush

[fiery burrow]

Shade Lord isn't even malicious

[ripe cliff]

Right, it's just TK amped up on godseeker focus

[cerulean sable]

like dude, DNM is narratively fine, youre not getting locked out a "true" true ending here 🥴

[ripe cliff]

If anything it would just.. return to the abyss

[cerulean sable]

yeah thats how i see it going as well

its just basically the void having some sort of united will but its not gonna actively go out and destroy kingdoms just cuz

but that doesnt stop people going in "what are you most excited for Silksong" threads and saying stuff like

"I wish at the end of Silksong, Hornet uses her new powers to go back and stop the Shadelord from destroying everything"

or that Pharloom is built on top of Hallownest and that when you drop down you go back in Hallownest and fight the Knight which channels the Shadelord blah blah blah

nah for me Hallownest is narratively concluded, id rather see Pharloom's own struggles with Hornet's stake there being rooted to her interwined Weaver history

[fiery burrow]

Hallownest being dead and moving on from it is the main point of the game

[cerulean sable]

exactly how i see it

like its even mentioned by some of the mushroom people

[barren sequoia]

The pharloom being built on top of hallownest is insane

[fiery burrow]

I wonder if Silksong will borrow the concept of change to an extent as well

I'm not sure I would really really want it but I wouldn't be opposed to it

[cerulean sable]

they know the King's vision of a forever lasting kingdom is not gonna happen, yet they still went with it

i feel like it will

in a more technological sense even

[barren sequoia]

One theme I hope carries over is dynasty and purpose

With how integral the weavers are I can imagine hornet having to face something related to it just likr the knight

[cerulean sable]

im not saying im 100% sure and this is mostly just speculation on my side, but i feel like the exploration of change and advancement is something they can express through technology to some extent

like in the Edge interview they said magic has a lot less stake compared to more mechanical stuff in Pharloom

[hollow terrace]

honest to god, hope there's aliens in silksong

[barren sequoia]

Like full on green aliens?

Or bug like aliens

[cerulean sable]

whether the magic fading is universal or locally something in pharloom, i cant really say, but thats mostly just speculation on my part

[golden pawn]

i'm about to get peak.

[fiery burrow]

I'm opposed to this idea because its different from what I knew of HK prior. Ironic

[cerulean sable]

like dont get me wrong, im not saying the game is going to focus on advancement by showing it on technology

[ripe cliff]

I think it would be pretty cool if Silksong's storyline serves to juxtapose with Hollow Knight's story, like two sides same coin type of deal

[cerulean sable]

but im just saying A PART of that change can be expressed through technology

[cerulean sable]

something something history repeats or rhymes

[glacial wren]

grubfather rolls in at the end to crush the final final Final boss

[fiery burrow]

What could that be?

Something new arising?

[cerulean sable]

something like Pharloom is dying?

and that church guys are desperately trying to keep their status quo in Pharloom?

[barren sequoia]

Im certain pharloom is just in an earlier state of decline

[fiery burrow]

I think thats the same side, Pale King and all

[glacial wren]

clearly pharloom is a more industrialized region compared to hallownest

[sick turtle]

i wonder if one of the endings (if it even works that way in silkong) will be making her way to hollownest or smth

[barren sequoia]

The decay and rotting instead of the husk left behind we see in hallownest

[cerulean sable]

yeah same, i personally think Pharloom is entering the stage of it dying

whereas Hallownest is already far long dead, were about to see an equivalent glimpse of what the PK was going through during the start of the fall

[ripe cliff]

like, we already sort of know that the premise of HK is about putting a dead kingdom to rest, so something that heavily contrasts with that idea, not sure
Of course still have it have to do with the world progressing and changing, but perhaps less allowing something old to rest and more getting something new to flourish. i think thats sort of in line with what taco brought up already

[glacial wren]

the idea of an evil religious thing ruling it all from the shadows has so much potential it's hard to think about

[ripe cliff]

havent been following along though really, trying to multitask atm

[ripe cliff]

yes

[sick turtle]

the shade is literally just a cult follower confirmed

[ripe cliff]

Do you think we can infer that Pharloom could also be considered to be in a stasis due to it being cursed?

[quartz cave]

New knight spotted DESTROY that guy

[glacial wren]

i hope there's a hungry knight snacksoul mode

[fiery burrow]

Reverse grimm troupe comes to spread happiness essence upon the kingdom to help it

[cerulean sable]

in the case of Pharloom tho, another angle i can see is that the Kingdom is not dying perse, but rather various powers can possible break from the system of Pharloom

Pharloom is gonna turn into a dead post apocalyptic kingdom like Hallownest, but rather instead shifting powers and rising kingdoms will slowly take place around it and the Church guys are desperately trying to stave it off but inadvertently caused the current curse

OR maybe all of this is just dumb speculation and in reality its going the same route as HK with the curse = infection thing anyway 🥴

[quartz cave]

Taco OBLITERATE the newknight

[barren sequoia]

I think it might be the exact opposite

[ripe cliff]

How

[barren sequoia]

Pharloom is advancing too far

[cerulean sable]

with the case of Pharloom being more alive though, i do hope its not going to be more or less the same as HK, and instead explore the themes of a kingdom falling out of favor as the smaller ones around it start to usher

[glacial wren]

it would be hilarious if they've been making a second stage to vast swathes of the map like the infection in crossroads

[cerulean sable]

honestly though, i wouldnt be surprised if they do

[fiery burrow]

New character with a new campaign that happens when Pharloom has collapsed

[ripe cliff]

Well I mean TBF i think things are still actively happening in the kingdom, events seem to be brimming so idk if it can be called a stasis

[fiery burrow]

I mean thats not what the stasis was in HK

[ripe cliff]

so yes i guess not. which is a good thing because i dont want the story to be too similar and just branch away from HK near the end

[barren sequoia]

A kingdom spreading too far and thin that the people need to actively be controlled by an opressing force

We also know they are in constanr need of materials

[fiery burrow]

Ancient Caste

No way. Thats what the blackwyrm was

[marsh ibex]

I’ll mute you

[cerulean sable]

"damn imagine if we couldve spread the infection further into other areas just like the forgotten crossroads, but we dont have the time nor budget to do- oh wait, we do not lmfao. Ari get to fucking drawing 200 different sprites"

that being said in terms of curse spreading ala infection, they probably dont have to do huge swats of art changes like the Infected Crossroad, they can do it in other angles like say, certain early game enemies start showing more strings and stuff

a couple of hanging strings and threads in the BG here and there, etc

[fiery burrow]

For what

[barren sequoia]

Certain areas might fall perhaps?

[ripe cliff]

it was prolonging Rad, yes, but it also kept everything unchanging, nothing was actively happening within the world

[barren sequoia]

Imagine the capitol starting to fall and decay after a pivotal scene or boss

[fiery burrow]

Well that was because the kingdom died the stasis was just prolonging doubt of that

[ripe cliff]

i'm basically citing monomon atp

[fiery burrow]

And not allowing new kingdoms to come into existence as well

[cerulean sable]

yeah the areas closer to the curse you could probably see large enough changes, but for the areas farther, it would be a lot more subtle

stuff would make you go "oh wait i just realized, were these hanging threads in the BG here before?"

[ripe cliff]

I mean, no. if the kingdom was truly allowed to die something new would arise from it, but the stasis prevents that

[cerulean sable]

not enough for you notice it immediately

[fiery burrow]

Yea

[cerulean sable]

but just enough to make you feel "somethings not right here"

[fiery burrow]

Coraline other mother's house lmfao

[glacial wren]

I'm personally excited to see how they handle first person dialogue

what if hornet is secretly funny

[cerulean sable]

you know how like in other games, you revisit an old area or town or wtv, but you have a nagging feeling something is just not right, whether the town music being weirdly offtune, or that the NPCs are placed incorrect, THOSE subtle changes

[barren sequoia]

Maybe something like myla

Yknow the one big village weve seen in the trailers

The really vertical golden one

The citizens of that town might slowly become more controlled by the silk throughout the game?

[cerulean sable]

theres this cool indie horror game for example where its about you moving into a house in a neighborhood and your job is to put all the furnitures in cuz theyre boxed outside

like nothing is happening and stuff, but eventually as you slowly move more furtniture youll start to realize small subtleties like ||wait, werent there windows here just a while ago||

[ripe cliff]

The concept of some giant bug at the top of the world pulling the strings is kind of a metal concept, but i doubt that's the direction they're going in
whereas the infection was way more metaphysical and spread through mind, this curse involves physical puppeteering almost. i'm sure there's still magic thrown in though

[cerulean sable]

its not something thats outright told to you, its just something you naturally realize after a while

[fiery burrow]

I'd like a song that signifies bad things happening in silksong, EG this Rain World song. Would just be a nice touch, maybe it could even be Dies Irae!
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-8NoXFOHpA||

[cerulean sable]

yeah something like that

[narrow prawn]

since hornet can talk she can actually ask characters to not be so vague about the lore

[barren sequoia]

Wonder how the vast difference in the areas are going to be explored

[ripe cliff]

ya think TC would ever add dialogue options?

[narrow prawn]

doesnt look like it

[fiery burrow]

I would prefer for Hornet to have her own voice

[narrow prawn]

same

[ripe cliff]

that's fair

[narrow prawn]

she has a unique personality in the first game doesnt make sense to sacrifice some of tht for dialogue options

[cerulean sable]

for real though, going back to the length discussion

[barren sequoia]

The whole personality thing is the part im looking fowards to the least myself

[narrow prawn]

y

[cerulean sable]

i know a lot of people are talking about how more hours = more content, but honestly i wouldnt be surprised if a lot of the work is done on adding new bosses or areas, but more on adding those little details

[barren sequoia]

I really liked the knights silent protagonist shtick

And just how it related greatly to the story

[fiery burrow]

And making sure those little details fit and can maybe interact with eachother

[cerulean sable]

what i mean is, like the hornet being able to talk part, remember how in HK, some NPCs will react on certain different conditions?

yeah yeah

exactly

with hornet being able to talk, that can add up if TC fleshes it out even further

[narrow prawn]

things change between games ppl dont like it before the game releases but can change minds later

[ripe cliff]

those elements will really help the world feel alive

[barren sequoia]

Yeah in still open for it but its a part I really liked

[cerulean sable]

small example is like the Snail Shaman having a different response to whether you talk to him first or not after getting the Vengeful Spirit

like any other games wouldve probably just added a generic response really

[glacial wren]

team cherry likes sweet, round and little things

[cerulean sable]

but TC cares enough that they wanted a second dialogue option of him going "i need you to kill the ba- OH MY YOU ALREADY DID. Such a reliable help you turned out"

[barren sequoia]

I have a feeling the overall npc count is going to be higher as well

[fiery burrow]

I liked the agender shtick whats with this woman nonsense 🙄

[glacial wren]

like a certain fruit maybe. grapes

[cerulean sable]

now, add in the fact that Hornet can talk, dialogue is not something they explored that much in the first game

[barren sequoia]

Which just increases the amount of tiny interactions they could add and think of

[ripe cliff]

this is going to be both good and awful for lorers. so much dialogue to sift through

[cerulean sable]

so yeah im not surprised if its gonna take longer to flesh those stuff out

[cerulean sable]

TRUE

[barren sequoia]

People go through all of the souls games

[cerulean sable]

on the flipside they at least they mentioned that if yo udont care about the story, the game wont force you into participating with them

[fiery burrow]

Its also quite memorable! I didn't have much trouble remembering key moments

or key dialogue

[cerulean sable]

because they accounted for the fact that they know not everyone is going to be super invested, and that means bogging the gameplay by forcing them into dialogues will annoy that portion of the playerbase

[fiery burrow]

The fact that they even cared to add small detailed made them special to me

[ripe cliff]

Its going to be largely a great thing, it also adds replayability. i'm sure there will be lots to miss on a first playthrough

[glacial wren]

considering the lgbt rep in the first game I wonder how many bug citizens will.... yknow

[fiery burrow]

Sherma is probably transgender

[young saffron]

I assume on steelsoul mode the dialogue will be different as well

[glacial wren]

own homes

[ripe cliff]

silk soul... hmm...

[fiery burrow]

I mean look at her

[marsh ibex]

banned

[glacial wren]

very few of the bugs in hallownest have access to housing

[cerulean sable]

yeah, hell im not saying im sure of it, but i wont be surprised if TC goes the extra mile to add small stuff like hornet either going
"So is it is true, what the stories [insert character] said about you"
vs to her going
"Who the fuck are you, and who is this [insert character]"

[ripe cliff]

[cerulean sable]

it feels like something TC would do

[fiery burrow]

Only girls blush

[cerulean sable]

and entering this new foray is gonna be time consuming

[glacial wren]

is hornet a girl! what!

[barren sequoia]

Like something like the great nail smiths

[cerulean sable]

remind me again?

[marsh ibex]

that’s not a thing lol

[barren sequoia]

Imagine the character interaction changing based on which one you meet first

[cerulean sable]

its them reacting to you owning the other nail arts right

[marsh ibex]

there are like two nailsmiths we see and one of them is dead as hell

[cerulean sable]

i think he meant

[barren sequoia]

Oh sorry I didnt mean its a thing but connections between multiple characters

I meant the fucking big sword guys

[cerulean sable]

the nailamsters right?

[marsh ibex]

nailmasters

[cerulean sable]

yeah the nailmasters

[barren sequoia]

Yes

[marsh ibex]

minor spelling mistake

[cerulean sable]

u

[marsh ibex]

sent to the trenches

[ripe cliff]

nailamster oreo

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-hat-kid-a-hat-in-time-mafia-mafia-town-gif-10299865138987440893

[barren sequoia]

Like imagine you meet oro first so your dialog with mato changes

[cerulean sable]

man what the fuck i just got sick of eating hardtack and moldy bread 😔

yeah

thats the thing

and hornet can now talk

[marsh ibex]

kinda does I guess

[cerulean sable]

so im not surprised if TC is going to comb the possible dialogue that occurs

UNIRONICALLY

i do think TC is going to add some limited dialogue choices

[ripe cliff]

the code is going to be so spagetti
Silk-code

[fiery burrow]

Its a different type of pasta

[cerulean sable]

i dont mean it in a way that theyre going to add the ability for you to tailor Hornet's character

but more or less shes a defined character that can inquire specific questions

[fiery burrow]

Silksong should open with a character creation screen

[glacial wren]

I want to make her wear suspenders

[barren sequoia]

Allow us to color the cloak

[cerulean sable]

insta picks the Knight class

[fiery burrow]

TRUE

[barren sequoia]

It would be cool honestly if the design did change a little based on what mark you have

[fiery burrow]

I'd pick the hunter class

[cerulean sable]

instead of pet the dog, hornet gets to kick the flea

[ripe cliff]

and then hit you with the deltarune reference

[fiery burrow]

Silksong should add typer values

[barren sequoia]

Its not mark what are the things hornet uses to change attacks and equip tools?

[cerulean sable]

seriously i know its a lot of spritework and a bigger issue is the cutscene compatibility

but Hornet having different cloaks depending on her crest would be fire

[ripe cliff]

gaster in Silk Song Real

[barren sequoia]

Crest yeah

[cerulean sable]

again, very unrealistic and its a lot of fucking work

its just a dream pipeline idea

[barren sequoia]

I always did wish the design changed a little in hollow knight

[glacial wren]

as though team cherry is collectively neurotypical

[barren sequoia]

Shows actual progression just through your character

[glacial wren]

DOUBT IT!

[cerulean sable]

but man i just wanna see hornet wear an equivalent armored ballgown like this

[barren sequoia]

We know its an actual item so we could meet a tailor

[fiery burrow]

idk if she'd want to give up what she had left of the weavers

[cerulean sable]

its less about removing her cloak

[fiery burrow]

Oh yeah! Losing her spells would probably be a big emotional blow for her

[ripe cliff]

she might have amnesia

[cerulean sable]

but augmenting it

[serene chasm]

Hornet in Heavy Armour

Thats all I want

[fiery burrow]

That was a big part of her childhood yknow

[barren sequoia]

Also if we do meet the weavers they might just upgrade the cloak

[glacial wren]

she hasn't changed her clothes since ||her mom died||

[barren sequoia]

If its their design they would know how to improve it

Like the omnitrix and the little green guy

Asmuth

[cerulean sable]

imo she hasnt forgotten her skills, its just that the citadel curse is actively hampering her ability

the sprint tho, its probably just 1. she lost most of her strength in the cage 2. she fucking fell from a great height (FROM THE GREAT, HEIGHHTSSSS. HEIIGHTTSSS)

and the churchkeeper will probably nurse her back to health giving her her sprint back

[fiery burrow]

Yeah she hasn't forgotten them

[barren sequoia]

Or maybe she just got new shoes

[fiery burrow]

TC has said that the time in the cage spent in the opening cutscene made her lose them

And that the weavers will help her restore them

[barren sequoia]

Like pokemon and zelda lol

Cant run unless you have very specific shoes

[ripe cliff]

she also talks to forgedaughter about the weapons she once had in the demo iirc

[glacial wren]

luckily she's got that exoskeleton otherwise we would be getting annoying video game theorists implying the game is a concussion induced purgatory or something

[cerulean sable]

PHARLOOM - BRONZE/GILDED CAGE (100% WEAVER PROOF) WITH SOULSAP™️ TECHNOLOGY (149.99 Rosaries)

Order now on the Hallownet

[ripe cliff]

||horner gruzzer skeleton||

[manic abyss]

So uhh

[ripe cliff]

my brain has rotted nvm

[barren sequoia]

I really prefer it when this chat is actual silksong discussion

[fiery burrow]

Spoiler tag this or shut up

[manic abyss]

Yesterday I went to sleep at 6:30 pm, but I only wanted to take like a 2 hour nap because I didn't want to waste my day
I woke up at 6am

[cerulean sable]

so true

its actually super refreshing

[fiery burrow]

Thank you

[ripe cliff]

i would like to apologize to any individuals whom i have scarred

[barren sequoia]

Wonder how hornet is going to learn skills or regain them in silksong

[serene chasm]

She has to go back to college

[barren sequoia]

Its not going to be through soul like the knight most presumably and if its from the weavers maybe just like books and shit?

[manic abyss]

Man that sounds really good for my spider problem
a little expensive tho
Isn't there like a sale or smth?

[serene chasm]

Thats why shes in Pharloom

[barren sequoia]

We know weavers made some of the only writable fabric in hollow knight

[fiery burrow]

In The Avatar: The Last Airbender, ||The Southern Raiders teaches that until you actively work to fix your mistakes and strive to be a better person, forgiveness is not warranted; nor is revenge||
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KidddOSDCIM||

[barren sequoia]

Am I the only one who really doesn't like the standing up weaver?

Their heads are just too big for their body

[cerulean sable]

hey no cost too great right?

man im actually excited to see how the world interconnects

i really feel considering what weve seen in TC, theyre gonna be the type of guys who adds the little extra interactions

and im the type of guy who loves doing this sidequest in a game, then talking to everyone i can see to see if they acknowledged my deed

nothing gets me that dopamine hit than doing this sidequest about say killing raiding bandits, going back to a far town, talking to an NPC again for the first time and hearing them say "oh yeah, heard youve been doing a lot of good work out there and with [town name]'s bandit problem being gone, weve got more goods flowing in. hell i can probably give you a discount too"

[serene chasm]

"I know who you are, hail Sithis"

[cerulean sable]

do not

remind me of Skyrim

[fiery burrow]

The swear is a nice touch

[serene chasm]

SS will be the Skyrim of Metriodvanias

[cerulean sable]

i will start a long rant again if you dont stop me

[fiery burrow]

Why is everyone speaking elegantly?

[barren sequoia]

I have actually been wondering if the hunt or search quests will be limited or just go on forever

[cerulean sable]

seriously the world acknowledging your actions is probably my favorite part in games

[fiery burrow]

Tears of the Kingdom was pretty fun in that regard

[serene chasm]

Living worlds are always good

[fiery burrow]

Doing quests actually changed stuff?!

[cerulean sable]

i remember doing this sidequest in new vegas that required you to kill 3 of the major fiend leaders

so i did, fast forward several hours later i arrived in this independent town and i was talking with a locals dealing with a quest of missing refugees. And one of the possible key witnesses has a journal you can steal/learn that she got hurt by one of the major fiend leaders

even more, you learn that the missing refugees were being sent to those major fiend leaders and are being done unspeakable things to them.

if you mention this to her, SHE will personally go to those slavers and kill her herself, and if you mention that fiend leader is dead, shell thank you and give you an extra reward

[narrow prawn]

w avatar

[fiery burrow]

We should remove ?tag info offtopic

[cerulean sable]

and these town and sidequest are largely unrelated to each other, theyre just connected by the fact that the sidequest NPCs and refugees are victims of a major fiend leader you so happen to inadvertantly kill in an unrelated sidequest

[serene chasm]

That be awesome if SS had that level of world connectivity.

[cerulean sable]

better yet is the "i need you to hunt these leaders" but if you already did, your response can be "uhh, i already did" and the bounty hunter NPC's response is "wait what the fuck you already did?"

[cerulean sable]

YEAH

i feel like TC might do it to some extent

little interactions of NPCs mentioning events here and there

they did it in HK, i can see them doing it for Silksong

[glacial wren]

I want there to be a path of pain times two

[cerulean sable]

from what weve seen TC puts a lot of care in the world building side

[glacial wren]

maybe 2 1/2

[serene chasm]

But even more so.

[fiery burrow]

Though Elderbug

You think Lomm will be a total jerk like him

[cerulean sable]

its the reason for the bench distancing at one point, how they interconnect areas AS LONG as they make sense

Elderbug complaining about the troupe and commenting them leaving is an evidence of it

nothing breaks my immersion in games when something happens in a town and theres no new dialogue that shows up

[barren sequoia]

I do hope we get like a journal or video of team cherry discussing silksongs design philosophy after its release

Aris hollow knight journal was awesome

[glacial wren]

insilk the song: how tc silked the silksong

hbngnhg need the silksong journals

[violet path]

overly repeated dialogue in general really takes me out of the scene in general

[ripe cliff]

how tc songed the silksong*

[fiery burrow]

Quirrel always left me empty at the end of his dialogue I just wanted to listen to him forever 😭

Except at the end of his journey that made sense

Maybe they could fix that by ending each encounter (Until there's a unique one again or you leave the room) with just a sit prompt

[hollow terrace]

"All tragedy erased. I see only wonders..." 🥹

[fiery burrow]

Genuinely such a powerful moment

HK doesn't hold punches with its story moments

[narrow prawn]

quirrel is the best

[glacial wren]

I want there to be a village of dung beetles and the gimmick is that every step every action taken in this town creates a nauseating squelch but maybe that goes against tcs design philosophy or something

[narrow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/quisel-get-real-gif-20256492

[fiery burrow]

Moss Grotto sound design is actually so good

They actually cooked with the first area this time instead of using forgotten crossroads 🤮

[ripe cliff]

attention to detail in the environment is gonna be such a neat thing

[glacial wren]

silksong is gonna be so pretty on the switch oled the vibrant colors come out right from the start

[ionic junco]

there'd better be a line from some npc for doing something over and over

[serene chasm]

Crazy what happens when a developer has time to make the game as best they can

[still owl]

welcome back silksongers

[fiery burrow]

The contrast between HK's development and SS's development is so real

[glacial wren]

developers deserve to be paid less and have their creativity stifled immediately to prevent games like hk from making people think that video games are supposed to be fun

[fiery burrow]

I can't stress enough that they were buying scraps of meat and making them into sandwiches when making HK just to save of resources

[cerulean sable]

another example i liked in Kingdom Come Deliverance, theres a point where you have to fight a 10 man bandit group which is in this game, very fucking difficulty but doable. And in that quest the captain expects you to do some stuff first so that in the final quest part, the penultimate fight is more like an 8v10

BUT if youre stubborn you can sequence break and kill the group yourself and you can report to him and his reaction is more or less:
Henry: "Its done"
Bernard: "Whats done?"
Henry: "Its over, ive taken care of the problem"
Bernard: "How?"
Henry: "I took care of them, theyre all dead"
Bernard: "What do you mean"
Henry: "I went into the camp and just killed them all"
Bernard: "JESUS CHRIST HENRY ARE YOU MAD. ALL OF THEM?"
Henry: "Well i thought its just faster this way"
Bernard: "Christ, alright ill have that place checked out. Sir Radzig isnt gonna believe this, but you dont seem to be joking either, so you better report back"

[cunning geode]

aye i love forgotten crossroads, it still looks good and gameplay wise its technically the first hurdle for players to overcome; can you figure out how to progress, or will you keep going in literal circles?

[still owl]

Fucking ttacco wall

[cerulean sable]

look i just think its a neat part

[glacial wren]

they were clearly living on instant ramen when they made the royal waterways that place clearly came from depraved minds

[cerulean sable]

its my favorite interactions and extra dialogue

the game has tons of it too

im just relating it to the fact that you can do something similar for the Snail Shaman

[still owl]

Less than that lol - surviving on bad cuts of meat and rationing croissants

oh and leftover sandwiches from the business(es) next to their office

[glacial wren]

I've never heard of this, that's upsetting :(

[fiery burrow]

Graig wasn't kidding when he said shoestring budget

[lament lotus]

really crazy how passionate they were

[still owl]

Payed off dw, they got that hella HK cash

[ionic junco]

games dev life can be tight

[narrow prawn]

mathematical reason for why silksong has not released: exonential graph between the time and year silksong releases. the number gets larger and larger and now it will take a very long time to reach

[lament lotus]

publishers dont even take a cut since theyre the ones publishing it

[narrow prawn]

[ionic junco]

source: currently living off instant ramen and scrounged food from work

[glacial wren]

based sisyphean lifestyle

[ionic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rael-gif-943215023730044045

one day I'll release a hit metroidvania about bugs

[charred surge]

Empty Soldier

[glacial wren]

team cherry is so cool I want them to have access to my bank account at this point just take it all

[golden pawn]

I got peak games tonight

[serene chasm]

Hi TC here. Please send me your moms credit card. Dont forget the funny numbers on the back

[narrow prawn]

hello! this is team cherry noticing your devotion. email me your credit card for free silksong (not a scam whatsoever i promise)

[serene chasm]

Hi Ari!

[fiery burrow]

Hello! I'm not TC but can I have your bank details too?

[glacial wren]

THE TEAM CHERY!

[narrow prawn]

yooooo will

we also need your address so we can drop of some hk goodies! ;)

[glacial wren]

if i reveal my social insurance number will I get to play the demo I understand otherwise just take it anyway-

[narrow prawn]

yessss yessssssss

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bro-you-got-the-whole-squad-laughing-you-got-the-whole-call-center-laughing-call-center-indian-gif-25440258

[ionic junco]

Sweet can I have some Hollow Knight: Silksong goodies as well

[narrow prawn]

of course! Send your bank details so we can find you.

[ionic junco]

sent

[narrow prawn]

ok thanks

[flat remnant]

hi all you lame people and also curly

[narrow prawn]

well be back to you... shortly

[ionic junco]

ah it seems I'm now homeless, thank you Team Cherry

for real, I'd love some badges or something with the collectors edition

[golden pawn]

wow..

[narrow prawn]

uh we hacve som eimportant buisness to attend to brb

[glacial wren]

homeless just in time to wait for silksong to come out by the time you find housing (never)

[narrow prawn]

(team cherry has blocked you)

[sage glade]

silksong hunter? might as well hunt unicorns too

[ionic junco]

I've been hunting for a very long time

ask ttacco

[glacial wren]

this is hyperbole, not all silkers want to be songed, some voluntarily choose to be Hollow Knights

then again the cherries are teaming in this economy

crickets

[young saffron]

https://youtu.be/67vbA5ZJdKQ?si=5Lte4ZWszLV36BpD

[merry bridge]

This looks mid

[flat remnant]

shut up smelly

it looks PEAK

[merry bridge]

it looks uninteresting

[ionic junco]

big laputa vibes

[spare fractal]

I did it...

I finish Pikmin 1. Again.

Still as peak as ever

I feel so fucking tired right now...

[cunning geode]

the green robot... made me cry a little last time i watched this movie

funny, havent really cried watching a movie in a while until then

[ionic junco]

Ghibli is an easy recipe for tears most of the time - the Wind Rises gets me every time

[cerulean sable]

hi Dev

long time no see

[ionic junco]

Hi Ttacco

[cerulean sable]

Also Jerma is streaming puzzle stuff

[cunning geode]

for me it was that moment where you watch the robot caring for the plants and animals still living on Laputa - and you realize that these hulking, flying death machines... were programmed to love nature

[cerulean sable]

and hes playing City of Tears in the BG 😭

[ionic junco]

[cunning geode]

good man

[cerulean sable]

ITS PLAYING DUNG DEFENDER

https://www.twitch.tv/jerma985

[ionic junco]

I wonder if Christopher Larkins been working on anything else or if he's been locked in Graig's basement until SS comes out

[cunning geode]

he has done other games

dude i love jigsaws btw

[cerulean sable]

he did Tohu

[cunning geode]

the puzzles mostly but i like the tool too

[spare fractal]

I want to close my eyes and go to sleep...

[ionic junco]

DOMA, DOMA DOMA

HA HAAAAAA

[cerulean sable]

DAAA

FUNDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ionic junco]

goddamn i want to fight him again

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-la-comarca-tehlaw_-streamer-gif-20170495

CRYSTAL THEME

[cerulean sable]

oh man theyre just playing the entire OST

[ionic junco]

jermas got some taste

[cerulean sable]

yeah he played HK before but didnt finish it

i think he got as far as Hornet 2

[ionic junco]

i mean fair enough

h2 is tough for most people

i struggled a bit with her

[cerulean sable]

no he beated her

then got shade cloak

[ionic junco]

ah I see

[cerulean sable]

then the playthrough fizzled out

[ionic junco]

I guess he just lost interest?

[cerulean sable]

iirc the reason was mostly he doesnt like HK as a stream game, its more of a take your time game he prefers playing offline

[ionic junco]

ah that makes sense

[cerulean sable]

mostly cuz of chat backseating him everytime

[ionic junco]

yeah its more of a 'lose yourself in the moment' type thing

things like figuring out what the mask maker is saying are more impactful if you work it out yourself, I think

[cerulean sable]

yeah

please play white palace

AUHHHH

[ionic junco]

LETS GOOOOO

God this has me so nostalgic

[hollow terrace]

dj please skip song

[sage void]

finally getting on fortnite guys.,.,,.,,

[young saffron]

hello

[ionic junco]

man jerma is so unhinged I love him

[spare fractal]

season 2 already came out, huh?

[sage void]

yes

[spare fractal]

I didn't get peter griffin

[sage void]

[spare fractal]

but I got jack skellington anyways so I'm happy

also solid snake so I'm even happier

[sage void]

[ionic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-cat-jam-head-bounce-kitty-gif-17946989

[cerulean sable]

ughhh

call me when he plays one of the good songs

[ionic junco]

booooo

[cerulean sable]

dont boo me

[sage void]

tacco hop on fortnite imo

[ionic junco]

your boos mean nothing I've seen what makes you cheer vibe

[lament lotus]

WHY IS EVERYONE PLAYING FORTNITE

[acoustic maple]

👻 boo?

[sage void]

because.,.,,

[lament lotus]

shits mid

[spare fractal]

because it is a good game

[sage void]

nuh uh.,.,,,

[spare fractal]

that is fun to play

[lament lotus]

dont call me until we go back to 2017-18

[cerulean sable]

@ionic junco ping me once music changes smh

[lament lotus]

or season 2 chapter 2

[spare fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-gif-11792868725529546015

[ionic junco]

yeye I gotchu

[grand ferry]

true

[ionic junco]

@cerulean sable

[cerulean sable]

what theme

[ionic junco]

soul sanctum

[cerulean sable]

i aint joining until i get the good stuff

YES

[lament lotus]

listen man i know you werent born when fortnite was good but if you were you'd agree with me

[ionic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

[spare fractal]

season 2 chapter 2 is still the best one

but I like fortnite anyways

[cerulean sable]

"JERCULAS THEME"

lmfa0

[lament lotus]

recent seasons been sucking

[lament lotus]

btw what yall talking about

[ionic junco]

https://www.twitch.tv/jerma985

jermas got the hollow knight music in the background

soul sanctum playing rn

[spare fractal]

I stopped playing in chapter 2 season 8 and didn't come back until og rolled around so I have no idea what you're talking about

[charred surge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[lament lotus]

OH that stream i watched it earlier

[cerulean sable]

PLEASE

WHITE PALACE

PLEASEEE

[ionic junco]

AHHHHHHHHHH

[cerulean sable]

ok thsi iss still good

[charred surge]

JERMA IN SILKSONG CONFIRMED ⁉️

[lament lotus]

damn i forget how good hollow knight osti s

[cerulean sable]

OPMGGG\

[ionic junco]

FUUFFFFCCC

[lament lotus]

crazy how i thought this music sucked to listen to outside of hollow knight

[ionic junco]

I need to replay

[narrow prawn]

fortnite battle pass

[hollow terrace]

so called free thinkers when hk ost appears out of nowhere

[narrow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-battle-pass-gif-27367381

[ionic junco]

Free thinker detected

[merry bridge]

its pretty good ost, they should make more of it

[lament lotus]

also WHY DOES HIS HOODIE STILL HAVE URANIUM

[ionic junco]

I lose my goddamned mind when it shows up in video essays

[narrow prawn]

so called free thinkers when i nuke their house:

[lament lotus]

i turn into that wojak wheneveri hear it

[cunning geode]

i love puzzles im gonna have a great time watching long edits of this stream later-HE RIPPED THE PAPER?

[cerulean sable]

WHITE PALACE PLEASEEE

[ionic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[charred surge]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[ionic junco]

jinx

[cerulean sable]

PLEASEEE

[lament lotus]

DRAW

[charred surge]

Damn it

[ionic junco]

ill take this

[cerulean sable]

Queens Garden its ok

[lament lotus]

what ost yall want

[cunning geode]

i just got jumpscared i glanced back at chat and thought i had orange name

[cerulean sable]

White Palace

[ionic junco]

white palace

[charred surge]

Curse of Moderationship upon ye

[lament lotus]

ptsd

[ionic junco]

it's just not the same without the buzzsaws tho

[lament lotus]

i actually forgot what white palace ost sounded like

[cunning geode]

astro's is more accurate

[cerulean sable]

ok i see it now

hes playing the playlist

next one is White Plady and Broken

[cunning geode]

oh no... nosk

[ionic junco]

nosk is a banger

[lament lotus]

LETS GOOOO WHITE LADY OST

[ionic junco]

white lady my beloved

[cerulean sable]

next one is Broken Vessel

[lament lotus]

reflection is a good ost

[inland ravine]

Hello! I'm Emu Otori! Emu Is Meaning Smile!

[lament lotus]

too bad its 30 seconds long

[ionic junco]

so many baby vessels

[lament lotus]

hey! pipe bomb

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-2-soldier-team-fortress-soldier-falling-gif-5964073814191065486

[cerulean sable]

KINGDOMS EDGEEE

[spare fractal]

Hi gwnj!

[lament lotus]

ost too good

[inland ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/boomshakalaka-gif-25687559

[merry bridge]

what act of ID theift is this

theft

[lament lotus]

the camera moving is so off putting

[cunning geode]

broken vessel theme oh no

[lament lotus]

feels like he got a sharpen filter on his camera

black eyes purple dragon

[cerulean sable]

god you could hear

the leitmotif

over and over again

good stuff

[ionic junco]

yup

[cerulean sable]

KINGDOMS EDGE

[cunning geode]

here it comes

[glacial wren]

SIGH hollow knight silksong

[inland ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/inanimate-insanity-ii-test-tube-object-show-waving-gif-25399861

[ionic junco]

actually did my thesis on leitmotif in games

zelda is full of it

[lament lotus]

oh yeah FYI jerma said this puzzle would take 2 hours

[glacial wren]

undertale fans when a song has another song hidden inside of it like a song matryoshka

[lament lotus]

kingdoms edge is really good

[glacial wren]

also other things but undertale is the only game ever

[ionic junco]

me n the bois on our way to kingdoms edge

[cerulean sable]

OH NO

[ionic junco]

nosk

[cerulean sable]

NOSK

[lament lotus]

nosk ost

[ionic junco]

[hollow terrace]

ITS NOSK

EVERYONE GET INTO A ACUTE ANGLE

[ionic junco]

dream theme

we pogging

[cerulean sable]

WERE SO CLOSE

[lament lotus]

oh is this the dreamer ost

[ionic junco]

yeah

[cerulean sable]

WHITE PALACE PELASEEE

[lament lotus]

it kinda looks like the steam is going into the kettle

[charred surge]

First time I ever open a Jerma stream and the chat is all “go piss girl” I’m scared

[cerulean sable]

he went on a biobreak 🥴

[ionic junco]

chat is behaving today

the voices in his head are calm

here we go

oh wait

[lament lotus]

huh

[ionic junco]

whoops

me when Gorb

[lament lotus]

oh dreamer boss ost

[charred surge]

The chat is saying stuff like “piss boss”

[cerulean sable]

COME ON

PEAK

ITS TIME FOR PEAK

white palaceee

[lament lotus]

here we go

[ionic junco]

@cerulean sable @cerulean sable @cerulean sable

                                         **W H I T E   P A L A C E**

@cerulean sable @cerulean sable @cerulean sable

[lament lotus]

YEAHH

[cerulean sable]

YESSS

[lament lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-pochita-cute-adorable-cry-gif-26990247

[charred surge]

JERMA JUMPSCARE

[lament lotus]

he returned when white palace came

[ionic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-listening-music-emotional-gif-8254997

[lament lotus]

is he the pale king

[ionic junco]

needs saws

[charred surge]

my first ever Jerma stream I hope I don’t get murdered by the horror or whatever it’s called

[cerulean sable]

"can we change music"

how about

i change YOU huh???

[ionic junco]

[lament lotus]

pale king
has alot of kids
doesnt care about them
short

jerma
has alot of kids
doesnt care about them
short

[ionic junco]

He looks like a fork

[charred surge]

Jerma has kids?? What kinda sick person would let that psycho have kids smh

[lament lotus]

PACM NA

[charred surge]

Live Pac-Man reaction

[lament lotus]

yall i got 15k jerma points holy shit

[ionic junco]

this man is a cryptid

[cerulean sable]

SEALED VESSEL

[lament lotus]

his chat gonna love this

[ionic junco]

music bouta pop off

[charred surge]

Time for the most intense puzzling of your goddamn life

[hollow terrace]

love this one

[inland ravine]

window :D

idk why i typed wonder

[cerulean sable]

what if he played Gods and Nightmares next 🥺

[ionic junco]

I'd never sleep

[lament lotus]

THE VIOLIN PARRTT HELLL YEAHHH

[radiant wraith]

Gods and Dreams

🐐

[lament lotus]

he sounds exactly like Sealed Vessel - Hollow Knight its insane

[ionic junco]

Sealed Jerma

[lament lotus]

aw man sealed vessel gone

[lament lotus]

he doesnt go outside so this is true

[ionic junco]

alright it's been poggies but I need rest, adios amigos

[charred surge]

What if ghost and hollow knight just played a puzzle instead of trying to kill each other smh..

[cerulean sable]

gnighttt

[lament lotus]

good bye

[hollow terrace]

I need sealed vessel to comeback

[lament lotus]

fr

[hollow terrace]

in silksong

[lament lotus]

he'll probably be mentioned

LMAO

i think he saw this image once

[cerulean sable]

LMAO

[lament lotus]

what is this ost, white defender?

OH

hive knight

[cerulean sable]

oh wait

hes still contiuing?

[lament lotus]

continuing what

LETS GO this ost i dont remember

[cerulean sable]

GRIMM TROUPE

GPZ

this is GPZ's theme

[lament lotus]

oh no wonder i dont remember it i fought him like twice i skipped out on him

[hollow terrace]

I think it autoplayed into the next playlist yeah

[lament lotus]

this goes really hard

[cerulean sable]

NKG COME ON

[lament lotus]

WO

[charred pulsar]

Whats happening?

[lament lotus]

jermas streaming a jigsaw puzzle and he has hk ost in the bg

[charred pulsar]

link

[lament lotus]

https://www.twitch.tv/jerma985

[cerulean sable]

highlight was City of Tears

chat was just ANGELTHUMP

[lament lotus]

this ost is so good

this chats really funny

[manic abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-sus-jerma985-the-sus-guy-suspicious-gif-25011230

[cerulean sable]

DAHDAHDAHDAHDAHDAHDAHDAHDAHDAH

[charred pulsar]

Has he played HK before?

[lament lotus]

nope

[cerulean sable]

HE SAID

[lament lotus]

he finally said it

[cerulean sable]

"OH THIS GRIMM, YEAH ITS A GOOD SONG"

[manic abyss]

The hk ost is just that good ig

Oh

[hollow terrace]

larkin you did it again

[lament lotus]

he said "more grimm? oh its a good song"

[cerulean sable]

yeayeah but didnt finish it cuz he doesnt like it ass a stream game

mostly from fans telling him where to g o

in his words he said its a game he would prefer playing offline because he just got absorbed by the world

[lament lotus]

wdym by absorbed

like immersed?

[cerulean sable]

like its a game you just take your time with

[charred pulsar]

Yeah makes sense, couldnt imagine being a big streamer and trying to focus on playing

[cerulean sable]

yeah

streaming it doesnt really work

he did get Shade Dash

[weary tapir]

Replaying ff7 remake part 1 and some of the voice direction in this game is questionable to say the least

[inland ravine]

simo :D

[lament lotus]

oh yeah i took 80 hours to get rad ending

[cerulean sable]

WHITOE DEF

[weary tapir]

Most of it is good but some delivery is… hm

[lament lotus]

taking your time with games is really nice since you never know if youll play it again

[cerulean sable]

lmao

[pulsar sleet]

Happy 10 months

[cerulean sable]

JJUST PLAY

PALE COURT

PALE OCURTT COME ONnn

[lament lotus]

what ost is thisd

[cerulean sable]

Dreamers

[lament lotus]

ah

[silver oak]

white palace...........

second best song in the ost

[lament lotus]

where does this ost play

white palace roof top?

[silver oak]

pale court isn't in the game

ost only song

[lament lotus]

damn i never knew that

[hollow terrace]

BUY it to get it punk

[silver oak]

I think it's only this and enter hallownest that are like that?

[lament lotus]

this go hard

[hollow terrace]

so called "they should increase silksong price" silksong fan

[silver oak]

also has he seriously only gotten this far in 4 hours

[lament lotus]

yep

[cerulean sable]

Pale Court is a proof that they should make a live OST

[coarse leaf]

[lament lotus]

honestly i think theyre gonna do a live orchestra thing a year or two after silksongs release

yall seen OMORI's orchestra

[weary tapir]

I wander what caused development to be pushed back 10 whole months

[silver oak]

didn't they have something like that

[lament lotus]

shit was SO good most of the ost's were better than the original

[weary tapir]

It is interesting to think about

[silver oak]

no it was like a video game medley thing

[lament lotus]

game dev

[weary tapir]

I was meaning a bit more specific

Like a mechanic or an area or something

[lament lotus]

who knows honestly

very broad range

[weary tapir]

I’m sure once the game is out they’ll probably say what

[full rune]

it's probably the mundane reasoning that they just thought they'd be done by then, and not anything in particular that's bottlenecking them

[weary tapir]

I wanna hear the dev stories is all I rly like that stuff

[silver oak]

I've been watching this stream for 5 minutes and I am already losing my mind

[lament lotus]

man id watch all the dev stories if they do that

[weary tapir]

Like the god of war 2018 documentary was so interesting

Bc you saw the stress and stuff

And what mechanics fucked up dev time

[lament lotus]

lowkey love dev logs from any indie dev

[silver oak]

the hades dev docs from noclip are some of my favorite videos on youtube

[weary tapir]

That’s why I hope when the game is out they talk abt like the struggles and making of the game

It would be really fun to hear

[quartz cave]

what about playing hollowpoint2.0

[lament lotus]

cant make perfect perfection

[weary tapir]

Listen up I’m in the house like carpet

[lament lotus]

holy fucking shit that violin solo

[weary tapir]

Do you know what I’m referencing.

😭

[lament lotus]

nope

[weary tapir]

Oh you blessed soul

[lament lotus]

what ost is this

[cerulean sable]

what violin solo

[lament lotus]

i was kidding i just didnt know what to call it

its just a really fast violin

[cerulean sable]

Daughter of Hallownest?

[lament lotus]

oh yeah

[cerulean sable]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3Pwmf3xVA8MV6h2isY6whx?si=cf7f0a913d854f3f

[quartz cave]

hey ttacco you should leak an expected release date for hp imoimoimoimoimoimoiirc

[olive bobcat]

Ok so anyways now that today's plans are done

[lament lotus]

tysm

[olive bobcat]

Kung Fu Panda 4 very good

[lament lotus]

it aint even out

[olive bobcat]

Sure it is

I watched all 1.5 hours of it

[lament lotus]

oh shit its delayed here

[olive bobcat]

L

[flat remnant]

any specific thoughts?

[olive bobcat]

It looks really good

[lament lotus]

i told yall it was good

[flat remnant]

I'm mostly worried about how they handle the villain if they're derivative and how awkwafina is in every other movie

[olive bobcat]

And while I was skeptical of the fox character I didn't find her annoying, actually charming imo

The villain's dope

[charred surge]

🗨️

[olive bobcat]

She doesn't have any super deep backstory but she's a cool villain

[charred surge]

WAIT IT’S OUT??

Fuck I thought that be way down the line

[olive bobcat]

Yeah out today

[flat remnant]

watching evil po rn (right now)

[olive bobcat]

Also they got a really good VA for The Chameleon

[lament lotus]

ah hell nah

[olive bobcat]

She's dope bro

[lament lotus]

im tuning out of the stream i cant bear to watch this

[charred surge]

Was mr beast a good va at all

[olive bobcat]

Also the city it takes place in is really cool

[olive bobcat]

Yeah he did good on his one word