#sk-discussion
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if they haven’t caved by now they won’t even like it’s been 5 years 😭
Because they probably want this game to succeed as much as we do
yeah but like I do kinda wish there were genuine dev updates like the blog posts instead of an annual leth assurance
ari gibson the throat GOAT
wtv that’s a pipe dream atp
dont say that
i love olives
i love olives
hiccups in development are a thing that happens with most games, HK itself had hiccups of its own, they just came in a form different from a long development cycle
that’s fair but I still think there’s an obligation for more detailed updates on development that hasn’t been upheld in a long time
the time it’s taking isn’t the issue it’s the radio silence
not an obligation imo but it would be nice i get what you mean
hiccoughs*
Yesterday, February 17th, 2024. A day that we will live in infamy. Team Cherry Games has been suddenly and deliberately attacked by the cyber forces of the Empire of Reddit
yeah idk going after the definition of “obligation” is hard bc on one hand this started as a dlc, the game is basically a gift
a big boulder was dropped on team cherry hq
but also like you accounce the game, that’s kind a binding action in terms of taking action to like keep fans updated
sorry haha 😅
augmented eye-ass headline
stop taking laxatives ros 
i dont know your anime references sorry
its a GAME ACSHUALLY
it's not anime 
ok what game
tbf its a visual novel so it sorta is borderline an anime
va-11 hall-a
you arent my fucking dad cunt
augmented eye is like a fictional news outlet in that game
I was referencing the speech for pearl harbour, but you reference anime smh
they only report real news
persona vibes
they were talking about rosie btw
the eyes are the evil spies in the handmaids tale who kill all the women who arent being womanly
ive never read that book…..
well now you know there are spies called eyes who kill people for going against the regime by not being womanly
thanks im so knowing of this now
Binding? Binding of Isaac? 🤨
theres this one hot guy called nick who offred thinks could be an eye but she also thinks hes hot
but when men marries anime pillow, everybody looks at them weirdly
misandry
😔
sounds like a setup for every single dystopian YA novel romance
no
its a lot better than that
good
im being reductive
big words
buffoonish drooling caveman sees the word reductive for the first time
indubitably
you should read handmaids tale winter you love women you love books about femoids
its a really good book its amazingly well written in this homosexuals opinion
ill give it a look
it has gay people
sighhh WOKEmaid’s tale
My remix of Brand New Animal- L『NIGHT RUNNING』by Shin Sakiura Ft. AAAMYYY
I love BNA and the soundtrack became one of my favorite! So I decided to make a remix Night Running. I guess you could say this was my passion project
Original song by Shin Sakiura & AAAMYYY
link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T3ofoKfEoY
why
Me when media has gay people (don't exist):
i always listen to this when you send it aluo
How many times have I sent it
Yeah I usually send the normal one
i hope she digs around in trashcans for food from dawn til dusk
send the one im thinking od
This is a remix I really like
2020年4月よりフジテレビ「+Ultra」にて放送!
TVアニメーション『BNA ビー・エヌ・エー』のノンクレジットエンディング映像を公開!
■エンディング情報■
『NIGHT RUNNING』
Shin Sakiura feat. AAAMYYY
歌・作詞:AAAMYYY 作曲、編曲:Shin Sakiura
■フルサイズダウンロード配信中!
iTunes
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/id1503458418?app=itunes
レコチョク
http://recochoku.jp/album/A1013363038/
mora
http://mora.jp/package/43000033/A83114/
mora(ハイレゾ)
http...
maybe i chose the wrong character to declare being literally me 
thanks bestie
Also the visuals are really nice
dark souls reference!!!!!!!!! aawahwawaswawwawawaaaaaa
so quirky and cute haha
iirc Night Running is what got me to watch BNA
i miss mimics i miss chests sprouting full four-limbed bodies and running after me
Also the opening is cool
https://youtu.be/3Okzra8Anr4
2020年4月よりフジテレビ「+Ultra」にて放送!
TVアニメーション『BNA ビー・エヌ・エー』のノンクレジットオープニング映像を公開!
■オープニング情報■
『Ready to』
歌:影森みちる(CV:諸星すみれ)
作詞:rihoco / 作曲:Jin Tanaka 編曲:R・O・N
■フルサイズダウンロード配信中!
iTunes
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/id1502661921?app=itunes
レコチョク
http://recochoku.jp/album/A1013363064/
mora
http://mora.jp/package/43000033/A83111/
mora(ハイレゾ)
http://mora.jp/...
i like that they never describe the luggage's teeth as sharp, they are always described as like HUGE and blocky
its more scary because to me it implies like a crushing motion instead of a tearing motion
yeah its just like big human teeth
they like bust your bones all to hell
you should be stronger than a treasure chest so just push up
it tore that one guys arm off in the first book
Should've pushed up
i dont remember no arm losing
i jsut remember it biting off a few fingers and i think it swallowed a guy whole
wait i think it tore someones fingers off then another guy just got caught and literally dragged to death by his arm
which is arguably more brutal
There is just this awful pit in my stomach every time I continue this game
Yeah HK is kinda bad
uninstall it 🙇♀️
I need to finish it but I don’t want it to end man
I want to continue Yakuza
persona 3?
It’s so fucking torturous
this was literally the last frame that froze before the site crashed 😭
Yes
that games been over for 20 years
Although moreso than that, my heart yearns to watch One Piece and eat my sandwich
true
LOL
But first I have to do homework and shower
the luggage is terrifying but also just a wooden puppy
more like a wooden pitbull imo
That's enough sending the same stuff, it's time to find a totally radical thing you all have never seen
send an image of the luggage from the discworld books
did you listen to sayonara rolling star
No, I'll listen later
Is it similar to Lonely Rolling Star in how it sounds
never listening to anything you send again until you do….
what song this
If you know what's right, you'll listen to this
classical music
no actually
specifically listen to the version from katamari forever not the one from beautiful katamari
For the Love of Money - The Black Keys
sighhh the site broke down leaving me with a still frame of the oily almost naked man running away 
You’ll never be him
【QRT of Burt Fabelman’s son (@hankofjuly):】
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guh i can't find any other video of it
It looks so dogshit
whats with that BACK ARCH
Wallpaper Engine had to update
the flash has insane scoliosis
smeggsy
the point is that while he runs he looks like
yuh
i canf stop watching it its sof hnny
who posted this thinking “yeah….. this looks fuckin sick…..”
I love the part where he runs through a wall
(His atoms were clearly moving too fast)
the way he just stands there for like 5 seconds after killing those three guys then just abruptly goes back to running in one direction for no fucking reason is killing me
wdymmm mimics has been a staple in DND for a long time
thats rhe joke buffoon
no its not
shuts the shut u9p
half-wit
Mods ban TTacco
what did you just call me
bruh sorry nvm i dont need to awp you realize
ur literally a stationary target i can easilyh just cap yall with a scout
what are you saying help
i love him (from the new One Piece EP)
I'm so close I'm so close
i just hate hate hate him
Sub ticks
I finished Zou earlier, I'm almost onto Whole Cake
I can binge that, then I'll be on Wano
I hate hate hate you/j
subticks were a mistake
- i have no idea how much impact they even do
They've really been building up to Wano, especially in Zou, and it sounds cool as fuck
Me neither..
thanks for the presentation
Anyways, galil > ak
Yes
hi kirb i just tilted 4 in a row in a tourny
what are you waffling about 
Ding liren cosplay
real i lost to 1300 1500 1600
maybe i shouldnt play in morning
yeah dont get me wrong i enjoy valo
but CS' movement and simpler gameplay is honestly way more fun for me
CSGO was my jam for a few years. Loved that game
I should give csgo a try again
Never tried Valorant. Looked fun, but I got burnt out by CS and OW
I don't like abilities combined with guns
hello ss disc surely this channel is not as brain dead as hk disc
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
don’t tell me it’s just as bad curly
We're awesome (I'm here)
don’t tell me that
Hallo mein freund heheheha
Depends on what you mean by braindead
hello kirb long time no see
we're okay methinks
but we used to be a real channel
You remember me 
its not its even worse here
still pretty real
i find that thats a very hard bar to reach
What happened to the game I love?
Not the worst thing Ive seen
I should ban them for RP
true alva
Anyways I sleep gn chat
goodnight
eated
I don't even know how to stop
bet
gn Kirb
honestly i feel like a lot of the people that could be cool regulars don’t exist because the way hk disc is now just deters people from staying
thanks

Real
then say something about it
Meaning?
Whats wrong with hk disc
I havent been there in a while
I want food
relatabel
it’s just weird now
to the people being weird
Everything is weird
Are bonk and jere and levi still running around
haven't seen bonk in a while
i’m talking about the new regulars
They were my favs
ain't that the truth 
bonk levi and jere are awesome
i mean... if you consider that normal....
Do eloki and uhhh whats his name still use there
you hate bonk and refuse to explain why so i don’t really know what you define as normal
eloki does sometimes not often
i don't hate bonk
who else are you thinking of
i dislike bonk 
same difference
Mochinator or something like rhat i think
moch is there yeah he gives out puzzles he’s awesome big fan
Also a guy that horses people when you ping them
that was jere
Nooo surely not
toast you seem so familiar but i don’t think we’ve ever formally interacted
yeah that’s him
flog is great
imo, i think we can do it if we tried guys
Maybe ive seen you around from my old hk disc days
only for us to say the silksong's mine 😔
I CAN DO ANYTHING!!
do what
hmm debatable truly
it is written
my room is so warm but i want cake so i’m going to have to leave my nice warm room for cake this shit blows
The tasty kind
Hmm
Burger
u guys are so much more normal than hk disc
Kinda craving some Indian food
i’m going to move here
indian food is delicious
but i like the most basic stuff
butter chicken goes so hard
Yesss
I used to have an indian neighbor who showed my dad how to cook an amazing butter chicken meal like 10 years ago but hes long since moved away since then
hop on naan bread and chai tea 
Did you say chai tea-
Dont eat daud

I love chai tea
I do like naan
dude i need the recipe
I’ve had a mango smoothie at a South-Asian-food restaurant before, it was good
I'm either getting Jollibee or some Briyani
like the dessert jelibee? or is this something else
Jollibee is a Filipino chain of fast food restaurants owned by Jollibee Foods Corporation (JFC). As of September 2023, there were over 1,500 Jollibee outlets worldwide,[2] with restaurants in Southeast Asia, the Middle East, East Asia (Hong Kong and Macau), North America, and Europe (including Spain, Italy,[3] and the United Kingdom).[4]
speaking of Did it get delayed yet
Officially
My roommate and I love ordering the chicken bucket
With extra sauce/gravy
Because I'm hungry
ohhh yum
Erm then eat? Smh my head
thanks
i thought it was already made basically
Chat im extremely tired and its 1;30 am but i wanna play persona what di i do
Erm my whole family is still sleeping
dude same time zone lets fucking go
Erm then eat your family??? Two birds with one stone

i told myself i’d be asleep by 3 so just make the same goal with me dude
Eruyggghahahahahggh PERSONA CALLS
what is that
I WILL BURN MY BREAAAAAAAAD
I have been replanting the same tomatos for almost a year
wait but thats true??? yeah true i agree true
do u actually agree with me
haha
I'll call in Kevin, he can be a regular
epic game
You either die a HK discussioner or live long enough to join SS discussion
I remember when I was a hk-disc main
Granted, ss-disc didn't exist yet
i think kevin could solo goku personally
its not good sometimes yeah
moch carries the channel for me
6 days until the ann iversary
Congrats Ann
Congrats Ann
congran ats
yeah but on the inverse its home country branches all suck
i swear you cant get a decent chicken from there chains here nowadays
Yo taco
its funny how mcdonalds is leading that instead (i do not endorse mcdonald eitherway)
hi
I got something to tell you
You’re cool
So true
Goddamnit autocorrect
@coral prawn heads
Cat jumpscare
TRUIE
Bet you feel stupid now
The next one is gonna be tails
i do not care about the coin results am i going to shoot at it dummy
jolibee mentioned??
ss-disc elderly home 
im both
coin-flip versus the unbreakable and immutable power of a nice hug
hi ss discussioner
I have only like 1 or 2 messages in hk-disc
bonk did levi tell you we beat infernum
Damn I should play more bullet...
Only played a lil bit more than half a year ago
Can't hit me of you are dead
Bullet chess no way?
yeah bonk i hit 1800 lmao
Oh real I played a crazy move earlier
in bullet though
Gg I hit 1750 rapid and then lost 150 elo in like one night
I think I'm around 1500-1600 in bullet
this is me in bullet
i hit 1700 like 4 times before that
Look at na4 real https://www.chess.com/live/game/101951017791
Too real 🥹
Though for me it's like 100 at most
The most elo I’ve lost in one night was like 400 puzzles elo
For rapid it’s like 150
The blitz players are too good for me i think
next on the hitlist is blitz to 1700 :clueless
yeah blitz players are like way better than bullet and rapid players
Surly rapid
Hey fuck you
no i mean like
I swear the average blitz player is 100+ higher play than their rating
a 1600 blitz is probably better than a 1600 bullet or a 1600 rapid
YEAH htats what i mean
Even relative to rating differences
So rude
Pale king lesbain confirmed?
Yeah
well then yeah you stink go have some variety smh
I'm 1900 in rapid and 1600 in blitz i just checked
But blitz is so fast I can’t think
Hop on bullet
i havent played rapid in 2 years
A little cause I haven't played blitz in a while just cause the volatile rating...
thats a lie but i havent played it in a while
I haven’t played blitz since I was like 7
1800 bullet, 1600 blitz, 1600 rapid
That’s also a lie
I mean what I said was a lie
ohh
I hate troubleshooting computer...
Fr…
At least i djd 1900 damage 
have you tried turning it off and on again?
The earth should turn off and on again sometime
I dont know
https://open.spotify.com/track/57Xjny5yNzAcsxnusKmAfA?si=3092267529a4484b curly try reptillia
stop judging me
I feel that
Great song. Gonna throw it in the queueue
Thank god for Thor or else I would be cooked
I've been finding that Talk Too Much by Renee Rapp has been pretty universally liked by ppl I know. Add that one to the queue as well!
Yeah. Sometimes finding the vibe can take a while.
I totally forgot I set up my spotify on discord
I did not even do that or I don't remeber doing it at least
Carrot is cute
Curlers try 2econd 2ight 2eer by will wood
sure thing
WAIT WHO MUTED CURLERS
gwnj 
This is so NOT cool
ME!!!
How you doing kiddo?
doing well wbu
how can u talk with the muted role tho? does the role itself not remove chatting permissions?

Nah, he'd chat
Curlers is built different
i'll bring my chancla for this
Im too powerful

He’s gay and all powerful
Mmm coffee 😋
and curly has no slowmode🙀
indeed. coffee yummy
when hes screaming the "YOU RAN ME OUT THE ROAD. THE WAIT IS NOW OVER. IM NOW TAKING OVER" hits you 😭
This mini boss suck
the power of gay and powerfulness makes curly even stronger
Bone massage
hey corn :D
Hey Gwnj
Anyway curly :3
Dont mess with me. Ive got the power of gay and anime on my side
Gave it a listen. Liked it, quite fun
You suck
Please don't attack junpei
😔
idk the anime too but found it in anime bow gifs
I hate it when I cant find a proper fit for my headphones
Having two people that are weak to zio and a fight with zio enemies suck
That is a beautiful bird
oooo nice
Ofc they randomly crit me twice
I bet it would be funneir with sound
it's doing that itself, and that's the problem
missing which charge sucks
Have you tried turning it on and off again?
yeah
Shit well those were all the ideas i had
and nft

gexp
Finally updated my One Piece poster wall again
When I get hit by any status effect I cry
Spoilers for One Piece characters up to the end of Dressrosa
So peak
I FINALLY GOT THE SUIT FOR THEM ALLLLLLLL YAHOOOOOOOO
why are they all wanted
just read the manga if you want them so much
crimes againt
Errrm actually I watch the anime

Do both Imo
Two more levels....
Tbh the only "bad" thing they did up to the timeskip was attack Enies Lobby
Yes there was that ||mass breakout from Impel Down, but the Straw Hats as a collective didn't have much to do with that||
That is true....
I do wonder
solksong
nitro is pretty neat 
how else can i make my pfp lesbian roommate temmie without any of my friends knowing 
Not true, they are violent insurrectionists who should be kept prisoners if not executed.

the what
They did ||Start a war against the world gov and luffy did punch a celestial dragon||
5 days!!!
Until the end of the world?
True, how dare they ||even just TOUCH higher beings such as celestial dragons||?
It's the 18th today. More like 6.
Birthday!
Oh dam my bad then
Also unrelated but wtf was that kraken balling?
Thanks!!!
Food
As in the legendary sea monster shooting hoops??
Kraken is good rum
I do love when I get hit my a one shot attack
As in a giant squid juggling the head of a fishman to attack
New wallpaper pair
download translucent tb
Whuzzat
Searchbar ruins it imo but I respect the lack of Windows 11 so it's still based
Thanks for bringing that up, it's fixed now
It's beautiful 
i am One and i indeed could agree
Her face is rather pointy actually
the only thing they need to put a warning on, is ME
Verse 7 of "The twelve days 'till Silksong":
On the sixth day till Silksong, Team Cherry gave to me
Seven years of playing
Six watchers rolling
Five years of waiting
Four blog posts sating
Three tireless devs
Two thrilling trailers
And a demo in E3
One more level....
I need some ideas for 11 and 12
11 children coping
there's way more than 11 though
hmm there are 11 charm notches
"11 charms notching" 🤔 🤔 🤔
doesn't quite work
how is yakuza 0 so far btw
i bought it on sale but haven't played it yet
download it and P rank the karaoke
If we don’t get silksong this month, There’s a good chance we won’t get it until the switch 2 in 2025
The switch 2 could’ve been the reason why they didn’t release the game in 2023
Silksong? Debuting on the switch 2? Excellent
I have zero doubt that Nintendo would ask them if they could delay it for switch 2
its um not nintendo owned
hollow knight has been holding top 1-3 for a while on the switch store
unrelated but thought id share that
If Nintendo is doing anything right with the switch, there’s gonna be comparability. And yeah - it’s not nintendos decision.
We don't even know if the Switch 2 will even be a thing
There's no way that Nintendo didn't learn from their mistakes with the Wii U and 3DS
So? that doesn’t stop them from asking team Cherry
It’s not even a switch exclusive
Delay the release of Silksong (again) on 3 other platforms to wait for the switch 2 to release because… Nintendo said pretty please?
with sugar on top
Pwease delay your game? 🥹
it wouldn’t be a delay because we don’t know when it’s releasing
Plus, I bet they would like the time to add more
i think they're gonna release it when its finished 
Regardless, the switch is gonna be backwards compatible
needing extra time doesnt make sense if they're the ones deciding when they release it
If they’ve been developing for switch 2 (specifically) then they’ve also been developing for switch 2 for a very long time.
Only way this adds up is a happy coincidence for SS and Switch 2 release dates.
i don't see why they would need to make it for the switch 2 when it already runs great on the switch
Runs
It doesn't run on anything
"performs"?
Yeah probably?
TC jumped from 5-10 dollar DLC in a year or two, to a 15-20 dollar game in 5+ years. If they want to spend more time - they will do so, with our without Nintendo’s benefit.
Nah I think you are wrong
The game will be a switch 2 exclusive because during E3 2019 the game was showcased at the Nintendo tree house so clearly team Cherry have a partnership with Nintendo and it will be exclusive
Clearly

who let you cook
they realized the new Piss of the Shitdom is no match for Hollow Peak
so they instead use it as the main Switch 2 game release
unbeknowst to them, Hollow Peak turns out to be Hollow Mid, and the game tanks so hard that Nintendo's stock goes down by 15%
lower mid
Nintendo then captures both Ari and William into a cage and sends them into a facility, and just before theyre punished, the bridge delivering them collapses...
yrEU

to make sure that silksong's quality is up to our expectations, they are playing through it themselves irl. That's why it's taking so long.
No
dam D:
Bye
Buh bye
joins convo
contradicts chatter
refuses to elaborate further
leaves
its releasing tomorrow
for sure
nah but imagine
I will not imagine
wdym nah 100% coming tomorrow
perchance
Fine. If it comes out tomorrow. I wont buy it
i wont buy it because hollow knight is bad so obviously silksong will be too
So true
This is a binding contract
If it comes out tomorrow and you buy it you will explode
i am gonna mention this again
cuz someone said theyre scared of SS being too long, and in their opinions HK is already a tad bit longer
and this is kinda a somewhat common sentiment
with one guy stating that metroidvanias dont really scale well with anything longer than that etc etc and 10-20 hours is the sweet spot for most time
but given that TC said HK wasnt made aiming for a specific genre in mind
i have a feeling (again this is just speculation) wtv Silksong ends up with, it might not be hard defined as a metroidvania anymore
Good. Cuz i wont buy it. Signed :D
try and bargain for just your mortal soul, trust me
before i wanted silksong to not release so people cry over it not releasing, now i want it to release so that all the people saying "i wont buy it" buy it
20 
A game like Silksong will probably have a lot of avoidable content
small number
ive seen it mentioned quite a bit
Too long as in so much content it takes a while to do everything?
like ofc you also have a lot of people saying SS HAS TO HAVE 100 HOURS OF CONTENT
i think its pacing in general
Who wants less product
it needs to have tw3 amount of content smh my head
Oh
some people state HK's map is too big, sometimes the fast travel is too unevenly placed, or that going around areas is a chore at end game
Like if there was a lot of slow aspects to SS?
so even if you have 10+ more hours of content left, a lot of people feel like theyre had their fill and that the game is overextending its welcome
ofc its all subjective in the end, but like me discussed back then, 40 hours is long but its not gonna feel like a chore if most of it is fun
But if it had more content then you liked couldn’t you just stop playing
i think it boils down to HK's pacing
the gap inbetween new abilities and ofc the game being a bit wanderless
from what ive seen in HK, the clear time for main game can take from 15-25 depending on the person
most people ive seen will still do long playthroughs of hk
That’s because you stare through their windows and force them
again its all subjective

you also have tons of people again saying they want 100 hours worth of content

which i think is a bit too unrealistic
It is
Well
I had like 100 hours in hk
But I guess redoing boss fights doesn’t count towards content time
Silksong will be a quicker to traverse I believe
doesnt hornet have run by default
i do think having a more structured narrative carrot to lead the player in Silksong could better as a bit of a main game progression incentive, like to remind you of your goal again vs to "ok you wandered around for hours and you found the dream nail, now uhh try to figure out how to get the fuck up the tower, the lab and deepnest and figure it out on your own"
vs to saying "oh ok Hornet get up the Citadel, you might need something to climb up, tho im not where"
we dont know yet when shell get her sprint
i do think sprint should be the first ability
It’s actually last
id rather dash first than use the silk spear imo
You get it to run after the Silken Siren
also they need to make the important progression closer together
otherwise the game will be out of that content time sweet spot
since they said pharloom is a lot larger than hallownest
ahh i see
so there must be less wandering
i still think youre going to be lost
its kinda their MO at this point
but at the very least establishing really good movement abilities as early as you can would be for the best
that fits for hornet tho
im not saying they should give you everything within 40% of the progression
at the very least, 15 minutes in they should give you sprint
it already gives you a load of movement abilities
then 1 hour or so would be i guess another movement ability
if hornet wasnt a lot faster than our vessel pharloom would be painful to wander around
whereas claw i think averages at around 2-4 hours for a lot of people (this is sourced from my own playthrough and most new player streamers i watched)
yeah defo
hell i would say the movement feels neutered until wall climb
dash is like 30 mins if u dont know what ur doing
and thats probably the most quintessential movement ability for hollow knight
if we make time equivalence
by 2 hours on average you would already have been provided
pogo
dash
fireball
wall climb
in Silksong assuming it would be a bit similar:
pogo
ledge climb
dash / sprint
sprint long jump
silk spear
probs wall climb?
perhaps hornet would start with sprint
since its a bit awkward to just 'unlock' sprinting
i honestly think shell get sprint after she wakes up from the church keeper
in the demo she only has bind, pogo and ledge climb
Silksong should have one area and all exits are infinitely looping hallways
she gets new jays
Thats gotta be one big ass area
but the churchkeeper in story would excuse it as
"theyve taken your strength and youre injured, i can heal your wounds to help you for now" and which essentially gives her sprint
some people say sprint is a bit too early at that point IMO it doesnt really hurt in the long run
sprint should be early
eheh. long run. sprint. eheh.
its so basic but makes it so much better
the starting area of moss grotto + moss mother already gives you a solid tutorial for ledge climbing, binding and pogoing
which arent really super hard abilities to get used to
will hornet really be able to pogo?
also thank god this game has sprinting we dont have to slow walk
yeah but I mean pogo on spikes like the knight could
diagonally iirc
shes diagonal
its meant so you cant abuse it like in HK
where youd literally pogo people on top
but theres some crests that gives her an HK style pogo
its more of like a bounce rather than a pogo
regardless, by definition it can still be defined as a pogo imo
It's what I understood as well
fighting in silksong seems like it will be more complex and elegant than in hk
not much of a line to cross
oh now i remember
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HK Dash
Dash
Air Dash (refreshable by pogo) -
SS Sprint
Short Dash burst (upon starting sprint)
Air Dash w/ Gravity
Sprint
Sprint + Stab which transitions to pogo/bounce
Sprint + Jump which gives long jump
overall that giving that early after moss mother isnt too bad
once silksong comes out there will be like thousands of people trying to 100% it first lol
i do know some arguements about it, that giving SS dash/sprint shouldnt be too early, because youre meant to make the player get accustomed and appreciate her base moveset until you get dash at around 30-60 minutes, so when you do get sprint, you REALLY feel it. Hence her first ability should be the silk spear
but honest, i think story wise if the demo is still to be used as a basis, Sprint makes a lot more sense and i dont think giving sprint that early is going "confuse" the player in the long term,
Do you think we're going to find bretta again?
no thankfully
im gonna block my youtube NGL, theres too many 100% all bosses bullshit within 2 days out of the game
since nobody will be good at it, itll be like everyone is playing like we played on our first playthrough
they make exception for zote
me too but just one or two in a side quest could be funny
we should see at least 1 vessel corpse
since hornet is literally killing the vessels in hk
dont me wrong, i understand that Hornet has her connections there and im not against an HK reference here and there, but i think narratively HK is already closed, and id rather learn more about Pharloom and the Weavers
so many people online has mentioned about stuff theyre excited in SS
and its always "i wanna fight the shadelord which he atacks attacks pharloom in the ending" or "i wanna see x character come back again" or "Hornet should drop down and it reveals that Hallownest is below Pharloom"
or zote's corpse
Ok but only one
Nah I think it should only be small references that would make sense
silksong is a prequel right
it makes more sense
not really?
Probably not since you can let her die
Wait wut>
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Can Bretta die or does she just stay in that room forever
a lot of the arguements for a prequel is "how can sealed siblings be canon" when 1. the game isnt really that fleshed out so stuff can still be written to accomodate the ending 2. its lame for you end up without all your abilities and progression in the end cuz Hornet will end up all the same
We can't
What was the thing it removed my message for?
It's like sly
Oh I assumed she was like Zote
we can help her or just let her alone but she won't really die
Anyways yeah makes sense since they went a bit everywhere. The ones that survived at least
Tho I would accept maybe like 1 boss related to HK just for the funzies but it doesn't have to be there
vesels do be wandering
If it's a prequel and we could have one HK reference, I would love to see a younger quirrel
True, Quirrel boss fight real
No
(canonically impossible the first time they meet is in the comic)
we don't really know at this point if it's a prequel or not
also there is hk references with steel soul jinn and her 'masters'
what is wrong with this creature
I hope it’s a prequel personally
same
I do wonder what ending it'll follow if it's a sequel
Would be really funny with how much people here hate the idea
it would make a better game
It makes more sense to be a sequel
In theory it could follow any of them and never address it
how
The one where the vessel die I think
Like me xd
Exactly
It's the same for me but I think I'd rather be after Hallownest already did everything cause otherwise people are gonna be like "oh this maybe affects hollow knight is some way"
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Silksong spoilers!
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No ending stops Hornet from being captured, and the ability to break seals with bugs from Pharloom makes Hornet being locked in the Black Egg not an issue. Dreamers also don’t die when sealed, we simply didn’t have the means to remove them without killing them.
No she's bloody dead in that ending
Ah.
Xd nor that that was the canon ending
all endings are canon
But are we sure that she's not dead anyways like didn't she inhale too much infection
None of the other dreamers died
well shes literally stuck there tho
They can break seals
since she became the seal
Hornet's development to describe who she is and her people (the spiders)
and shes in there
Ok but they did it willingly, she literally passed out or died from too much infection at once
Even if all endings are canon, they can just chose one of them for the sequel (like zelda)
But also ehhhhhh I think that it's gonna be a sequel
They don’t really need to choose just one
Currently yes, but some have had to choose to make the game xd
possibly either the one of no more dreams or the one of godmaster
woof woof bark bark
I don't see why Hornet would leave Hallownest if she needs to kill vessels
The chain of events could be:
Ending occurs > amount of time passes > hornet is kidnapped
Vacation
wel she doesnt need to kill vessels anymore
Again for Sealed Siblings
"I don't get paid enough to deal with y'all"
Yeah that's why I think it'll be a sequel
That's the least likely ending to be canon.
Well not really in that case
THEY ARE ALL CANON
Shes benn kidnapped so xd
yes xd, but they had to take some ending
All of them are canon but some or more canon than other
if its a sequel how come hornet loses her abilities
like in the animal farm
They could make a sequel without specifying exactly what ending they follow
and has to relearn them all
Bonked her head really hard
as far as i know, this is not yet known. they've said they wish to keep all endings relevant for silksong
This would include all endings
cop out 
Also maybe she did them through objects and she lost the objects and has to find new ones
Nothing is hard written anyway
Hornet is stuck yes but the seals themselves would be something Weavers themselves would know
Hornet is possibly hunted due to her status / relation to the Weavers, meaning by extension her captors would also be familiar with its creation/destruction
Seal Breaking butterflies literally blew up Hornet's cage, you can run semantics and explanations like "well, its not the same type of seal!" but you can also equally argue TC hasnt hard written everything anyway
eitherway a lot of games with multiple endings with sequels tend to just blur the lines of whats cannon and not because the main point is Hollow Knight's story is over, Pharloom will be the main focus
It is known that it has been sealed, meaning that the power it had has been taken away
they should show a montage of her escaping from all endings
It preserves every ending being canon
and canonize the multiverse
Into the spiderverse
silkverse i mean
Wait that already exists
If its a sequel, what happens in Hollow Knight is overall irrelevant in the grand scheme of Silksong
If it's a prequel how come she lost all her abilities in HK?
Well see that
any news?
good
check pins
They will have to say something, at least as a reference
And thats why i dislike it being a prequel, the excuse is either all her progression is for nought cuz we know shell end up what she is in HK, or it gets retconned as "she didnt use all her abilities"
They really don’t
but at that point you can also write the sequel with "well none of the endings of HK matters because one way or another she escapes"
They want it to be super newcomer friendly, so they’re better off starting you fresh
I mean maybe she just got over her drug addiction
yea but is that better than her losing all her abilities for no reason
Furthermore, it is very possible that Hornet will develop in Silksong and learn who he really is and his people, now that he has nothing left to protect.
She
LMAO
yeah my main gain for a sequel is how much more open ended it can feel once we learn more about Hornet
whereas if its a prequel well we know eitherway at the end of Silksong, shell be back in Hallownest
she finally learns the she is a he, that's who he really is
there really is an explanation xd, she has been sealed, being unable to use her power with silk
I’ve always said HK didn’t feature enough trans iconography
The magazine literally states Hornet has lost her traditional strength
and must regain it
Yea
in her dialogue with the forge daugther, she mentions "i know some tools btw, but they might be a bit foreign to you, can you replicate them?"
Metaphor for drug addiction
maybe pale king's transformation counts
it doesnt really matter if its a sequel or not
maybe, maybe not
It does to #hk-lore
also every vessel transformed from she/her or he/him to they/them when they died
🤓👆 Actually yes
the main point isnt if its a sequel or prequel, but rather people always pointing out that its a prequel simply because a sequel is impossible due to Sealed Siblings
Yea xd
I sure hope it’s a prequel
When Godmaster ends and no more dreams are wide open
how much more will i have to advocate for the midquel
I Hope no
Mid…
eitherway its up to TC, my only take is i dislike it being a prequel because it closes a lot more endings for Pharloom and Hornet, and kinda denies all her progression and more from the denizens of Pharloom
It would lose some magic
the best route for them to take it down is just saying 'she just escaped ok' and not specifying the ending, so that hk's endings arent thought of as more or less canon
Yea, i think the same
thats the route a lot of games do
At the end Hornet learns how to trust people setting up her relationship with tk
wait wasnt hornet born in hallownest
Correct
It less canon actually
therefore its gotta be a sequel
She is kidnapped
Yea
Sealed subhuman
I will seal you
by the "town" to which the spiders belonged before they went to Hallonest
the other explanation was that she got kidnapped before the events of Hallownest
Daddy noooo
u mean before the infection
yeah
And thats have no sense (no too much sense)
that doesnt make sense
She got kidnapped, then came back during the last final moments before tk fight thk >:)
since the infection was happening, and pk gae herrah a daughter to become a seal
No sense
imo in the end i dont think it matters alot anyway, just kill the elephant in the room (sealed siblings) and more or less the issue of it being a sequel shouldnt really be a problem
but thats TC's mo
Yea
meaning that he needed to seal his hollow knight
in the end, i just wish TC doesnt fucking go the route of "Hallownest was below Pharloom all along!!!"
Yea
Hallownest being forgotten to the point of being a legend is narratively conclusive to me, Shadelord or not
i mean having hornet go into a cliff like area at the end and jump down a hole then u see the words kings pass would be kinda funny
I really wish it was a sequel, the development of Hornet, the story of the spiders and what happens and happened in Pharloom
yeah in general the progression of Hornet being open is what id prefer
Well
currently there is an opening to the history
No
Can't tell if the Pale King would like that outcome or not
Dudes dead
I mean arguably someone who can see the future probably wouldn't have any kind of preferences
we dont know that
That's what "would" is for
||Captured and taken to a distant land
Hornet, protector princess of Hallownest, finds herself alone in a vast and unknown world.
He must fight enemies, seek allies, and solve mysteries as he ascends on a deadly pilgrimage to the top of the kingdom.
Bound by her lineage and guided by the echoes of her past, Hornet will venture through moss-covered grottoes, coral forests, and glowing citadels to untangle a deadly thread that threatens this strange new land.||
i havent even completed my 112% run ;-;
It mayby count as spoiler so
i said real sun
No
dont worry u probably have another few years to do it
what do you have left
also pale king is actually more transformation methinks
64%
@verbal plover the plot
huh
na i actually did a 112% run but it was multiplayer so it capped at 100%
Because technically Hallownest would be lasting eternally, in the stories of legends about it
But also we have no fucking idea how far his future sight goes or how it works in the slightest so
bugs in other kingdoms would probably hear about the radiance
also his foresight must have been crap
ong he didnt see the hollow knight failing at his job
I mean, for someone that has future sight, in some circumstances the future and the present would be indistinguishable, so maybe he literally could only do what he did
well unless his forsight doesnt extend past his death
Yea
I mean I'd also argue would any knight have worked at all?
the knight we play as has no emotions
unlike the hollow knight
he most likely knew that his kingdom would not be eternal
thats why he turned to void
Ehhhh not sure bout that and also maybe the radiance could break out anyways
eh doesnt matter we kill the radiance in 3 endings anyway
If you ask me, he already knew how everything would go, including THK failing, and planned everything so that it would all go like it did in the game, ensuring that while yes ruined, Hallownest would truly last eternal
does the radiance just resemble the light of the sun or is she the actual sun
I don't think we know
But I'd assume she just resembles it
Even if her being the sun is cooler
Also, I'd personally count legends of the Kingdom as making it last eternal so he succeeded
my question is after radiance is truely dead or sealed does the corruption get removed from the rest of the bugs and they can go back to living their lives?
when no cost too great
They didn't get mad like the whole point is that they liked him more than the radiance
the radiance gettiing mad
and big moth mum got mad her children left her for a random
if he didnt go to that particular area
Must be very hard to find a place that already has a lot of very disorganized people, no?
I don't think we know

