sk-discussion

[copper shadow]

Im playing it right now dude

[upbeat bear]

splendid

[random citrus]

https://vxtwitter.com/beribug_/status/1757520663206604912?t=nTFZtFHoZldlE2x6jRa6lA&s=19

[copper shadow]

Bravo team cherry 😭 🙏

[upbeat bear]

wrong

[fiery burrow]

Too detailed for an HK map

[runic atlas]

[random citrus]

we really are coping

[atomic sparrow]

there's no fucking way

[copper shadow]

they really outdid themselves this time didnt they

[indigo steppe]

GO BACK TO THE ASLUME

[fiery burrow]

No

[copper shadow]

Bell champion is a boss??? I thought he was more like one of the pale knights, only referenced but never seen

[random citrus]

also, hello everyone, im new here

[upbeat bear]

thats where we are

[wheat sail]

I already beat enshrined lace and legend seth

[coarse leaf]

I’m gonna starve to death if no news pls I don’t wanna died

[leaden leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-23709582

[wheat sail]

With 6 bindings

[lament lotus]

aw man

[upbeat bear]

true !

[atomic sparrow]

https://twitter.com/clockwise8842/status/1757817797105561804

Void (@clockwise8842) on X

Had to.

#hollowknightfanart #silksong

Twitter · Feb 14, 2024, 5:23 PM

[viscid sleet]

hard

[atomic sparrow]

peak

[copper shadow]

Really cant believe after all this time it was actually worth the wait

[indigo steppe]

We have a mod named Jonkler too😭

[cerulean sable]

the less i hype, the better

bass riff

[wheat sail]

Be hyped

[upbeat bear]

why did the jonkler ban? is he man?

[atomic sparrow]

wheres man when you need him

[leaden leaf]

wait what

[upbeat bear]

these new users are too optimistic about silksong release

[wheat sail]

Maybe we should take notes

[upbeat bear]

someone go fetch the truly lobotomized silksong discussion members

[atomic sparrow]

lobotobites

[warped nacelle]

Let us forget about the double S and restart like it was announced today for the first time

[fiery burrow]

Let us forget about the double S

[copper shadow]

Overall really enjoying the game, still cant believe they actually came forth with the feb 14 shadowdrop

[quiet knot]

Omg guys im so excited for silksong they just announced it. I bet its gonna take a long time, but im willing to wait!

[wheat sail]

Let's start a channel to discuss Silksong

[fiery burrow]

Moss is mossbag!? 🤯

[upbeat bear]

BWAAA...

[fiery burrow]

Can I have a shoutout

[warped nacelle]

Like and subscribe 👍

[leaden leaf]

[cold lark]

Stonesong -Y

[copper shadow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ufc-d8C9QwHsFQgR39MSTq

[craggy siren]

let's create a channel on YouTube that will cover news about SS every day

[copper shadow]

The trailer looks so polished! It surely will come out within a few months!

[upbeat bear]

what if I dislike and unsubscribe?

[tall sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-cat-cute-gif-12080171459357821404

[uncut citrus]

[warped nacelle]

It is your opinion and you're free to

[wheat sail]

You are not allowed to leave

[barren oyster]

You can never leave

[low thicket]

Hello i'm back, i can't sleep (i'm Ecoanxious)

[upbeat bear]

its so weird seing so many new users

[barren oyster]

Wtf is silksong out then ?

[low thicket]

I'm also Antinatalist

[barren oyster]

Let's gooo

[uncut citrus]

@inland ravine https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1133935732965265569/1207482482597822544/caption.gif?ex=65dfceb1&is=65cd59b1&hm=7fee03c8d5ec996817e08915c95cdc7bcbcc2038d29d17a9f3339217c06f2f31&

[tall sigil]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/zynDw2XVpUBxhQA1Pv/giphy.mp4?cid=73b8f7b1c47b83689adca05e11d2ad18481af805187965d2&rid=giphy.mp4&ct=g

[flat remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/972055977849401354/1130459867245711450/251AF7DB-6BAA-41DA-9D4B-1F896544E3E9.gif

[shell yacht]

laggy gif

[warped nacelle]

Laggif

[upbeat bear]

:3 💣 wave

[tall sigil]

whats a ssj3 zote?

ah

[wheat sail]

Whys the j

[upbeat bear]

1 zotefly

[lament lotus]

nah id win

[sterile wedge]

Woah, it was real

[rustic ore]

SSJ: “Super Saiyajin”

[barren oyster]

Because japan

[warped nacelle]

Nerdeamorph

[upbeat bear]

nah id :3

[rustic ore]

Mosshead

[warped nacelle]

Sup chief

[rustic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/roronoa-zoro-gif-23040545

[warped nacelle]

awesome

[low thicket]

We are watching an italian documentary about fast fashion my God our world Is really on an Edge

[vivid bison]

Silk

[low thicket]

Not the best way to fall asleep i know

[ornate gazelle]

Silk 🎶

[upbeat bear]

well atleast its not on, a 45 bear pizzeria

[analog vortex]

EDGE? EDGE MAGAZINE ???

[ornate gazelle]

🧵 🎶

[analog vortex]

Also yo chat

[vivid bison]

Microsoft Edge

[leaden leaf]

Hol up is that mossbag from youtube

[merry bridge]

why is your username tapioca

[uncut citrus]

yes i am mossbag, the real guy, from youtube

[merry bridge]

thats a type of flour

[vivid bison]

Why is your username Emu

That’s an animal

[uncut citrus]

his username is quite obviously Scoob

[merry bridge]

because Its funny to trick people into thinking im from AUS

[analog vortex]

Also happy borthday silksong

[merry bridge]

also emu war memes

[ornate gazelle]

It’s happy birthday hk right?

[vivid bison]

Silksong hasn’t been born yet

[analog vortex]

[low thicket]

Achtually 🤓☝️ it's a root

[merry bridge]

which gets turned into flour

[low thicket]

Yep

[analog vortex]

It was born

[merry bridge]

I ate the root before

[summer crane]

I'm going to explode

[vivid bison]

All my characters are named after herbs or spices

[low thicket]

OUR WOURLD IS DYING IN FLAMES PPLS

[upbeat bear]

well dont

[vivid bison]

Tapioca sounded cute

[merry bridge]

que pena

[summer crane]

OXI?

[young saffron]

news was real.

a joyus occasion, celebrations for all.

[upbeat bear]

wrong !

[analog vortex]

Do you help production in high guardian spice by any chance

[summer crane]

You can't stop me

[merry bridge]

do you have a character named saffron

[vivid bison]

Cinnamon

[upbeat bear]

gosh dangit

[low thicket]

I do i have 11 Hectares in Permaculture

[merry bridge]

hey thats the word where I drew inspiration for my character's name

[young saffron]

why is slowmode 10 seconds

[hollow terrace]

Leth comments of reassurance usually end up with that

[young saffron]

This weeks gamerant is going to be so good.

[vivid bison]

Spam

[upbeat bear]

very inspirational

[low thicket]

Coz we reddit goblins swarmed the discord to see the leth Announcement with our eyes

[spare fractal]

I know, inspiring stuff

[proud crane]

bro dung defender is below the map i glitched him

wrong place

[cerulean sable]

gamerant will be left exposed after this announcement

we will then destroy it while it is weak

[upbeat bear]

how I feel knowing I arrived before this

[shell yacht]

shoot the orange crit spot

[upbeat bear]

nah pretty on brand for this chat

[cerulean sable]

(loading up dragon ammo)

(sets up wyvernheart)

[low thicket]

How?

[upbeat bear]

you dont know cause you didnt arrive before this

[warm bison]

Everyone who thought the news was on the 14th is probably upset rn

[shell yacht]

https://youtu.be/2iOjnxK7XKc?feature=shared

[cerulean sable]

i mean it technically is

[full rune]

4:20

[cerulean sable]

4:20 LMA

O

[warm bison]

YES!

[spare fractal]

now, I shall ask an inspiring and reflective question: HOW MANY F#CKING MODS ARE THERE?! I NEED THE EXACT NUMBER, IS IT 20, IS IT 16, IS IT 30, WHAT IS IT?!

[low thicket]

Nope i arrived Just at the beggining of It, very proud ngl

[cerulean sable]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4r4fX4NZIqVIhGyDvERp0l?si=afef9481a082469a moment

[spare fractal]

how many mods are there I need to know...

[lament lotus]

24

[cerulean sable]

uhh around 11

[lament lotus]

idk actually

[cerulean sable]

or 10

10-14

[lament lotus]

man just to server settings and manage roles then you can see 😭

[cerulean sable]

i miss my 2017 join date badge

[lament lotus]

idk if you got perms for that

[cerulean sable]

i accidentally left in 2021 and it i forgot thats how it tracked it 😔

[coarse leaf]

Dude I love ur pfp

[cerulean sable]

thanks i had to play hunt down the freeman for it

[spare fractal]

where do I even find server settings?

[lament lotus]

only mods

can see that

[spare fractal]

AGH

I need to know the exact number of mods currently in the server, not just the ones that are online!

[shell yacht]

just spend 2hours digging thru logs and find you og join msg with the joinposition on it

[cerulean sable]

my goddddd hereeee

[cerulean sable]

yes but

[lament lotus]

TOLD YOU

[cerulean sable]

its no longer cool on my side

[marsh ibex]

Halberdier isn’t a d&d role

[cerulean sable]

dungo

[violet path]

Dnd

[cerulean sable]

i was going by Grim Dawn classes

yall deviated

[spare fractal]

20! Oh my gosh, thank you so much.

[cerulean sable]

so i said fuck it and went with polearms

this was the original plan dummy

[spare fractal]

so, there's a total of 20 mods

[marsh ibex]

prove it

[cerulean sable]

me and knightmere started it in DMs

[spare fractal]

simo and benji both have all of the roles in the server, so that subtracts 2...

[cerulean sable]

and said lets tailor it to Grim Dawn classes

thats why i went Battlemage and he went Paladin

u were the one who took Rogue

[low thicket]

@cerulean sable mi man peloso Is cooking

[spare fractal]

and curly and zal still have the mod role despite now being admins, so that subtracts two more...

[cerulean sable]

who tf is cooking and whyd oes it smell like methamphetamine

[coarse leaf]

What no silksong does to a man

[shell yacht]

chat out here doing simple subtraction! an improvement! they can learn!

[spare fractal]

20-2-2 is 16. There is a total of 16 mods currently in this server without counting admins.

Which means...

I have all the pfps I need!

[shell yacht]

my neighbor probobally

all the what

[spare fractal]

The experiment can now finally begin

[cerulean sable]

YRUE

[shell yacht]

are you hunger games siming the mods

[spare fractal]

The HK Discord Server Hunger Games is in motion now...

[shell yacht]

[tawdry valley]

Add Walter Hartwell White to the hunger game sim.

[low thicket]

What this mean? I feel like i'm about to assist smth cool

[spare fractal]

is walter a hollow knight discord mod

[cerulean sable]

guys

i just wanted to say

[tawdry valley]

ttacco is Walter white a discord mod

[cerulean sable]

Beyond all ideas of right or wrong
There is a field

And I will be waiting for all you there 🥺

[upbeat bear]

do it with all the based members next

[shell yacht]

in vinland?

[cerulean sable]

idk thats jus what julian casablancas said

[low thicket]

What we have done to you lady

[tawdry valley]

Valhalla or bust

[upbeat bear]

you have not made the list yet

[fleet cairn]

hi just checking in did anything happen today regarding silksong news

[drifting jungle]

leth said hi

[spare fractal]

I'd say there are no based members, but being based or not is simply subjective

[tawdry valley]

No

[low thicket]

Oh Sorry i missunderstood based

[upbeat bear]

me and mimi have had a very based conversation recetntly

[cerulean sable]

unfortuantely it is not vinland saga i am sorry but i guess valhalla is technically heaven right

[tawdry valley]

Valhalla is just the cool kids table

[stark flame]

forgive me if this was asked but did the devs say how the whole unity fiasco affected them?

[tawdry valley]

You either go there or the people who are there don’t think you get to go there

[upbeat bear]

vinland saga is an amazing series

[cerulean sable]

yes i heard

[stark flame]

friends are a bit scared htat its gonna send the release date to the next decade

[shell yacht]

vinland is basically valhalla if you dont think about how wrong the vikings were

[cerulean sable]

unfortunately

i have no enemies <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< nah id win

[fiery burrow]

No however it will not probably effect them since the fee is quite negligible, especially for a company as rich as TC

[tawdry valley]

The fees at their worst would have cost them 100k if they sold 1 million copies, and then another 10k every 1 million copies sold.

Pretty sure Unity backpedaled anyways

[spare fractal]

should I make the admins part of the mod hunger games too?

[tawdry valley]

TLDR: it doesn’t/didn’t/couldn’t affect Silksong

[fleet cairn]

Well at least that's something. I'm very impressed with how much work they're putting into the game. I just know that when it releases it will really feel like a game that has 5 years of development behind it.

[wise ibex]

Omg I have no idea how to use discord and have no idea how to even see the original post but I’m hyped! This will keep me going for the next 10 years.

[tawdry valley]

Unity execs were just stupid and assumed that everyone who uses unity is making free mobile games

[marsh ibex]

how do you not know how to use discord you made your account in 2021

[cunning grove]

Click here: #sk-discussion message

[wheat sail]

Logical fallacy

[fiery burrow]

Rick roll

[young saffron]

heat death

[stark flame]

[tawdry valley]

At the top of the channel section, there’s a search bar with options to filter messages by content and/or who sent/received it.
Additionally, individual channels have their own menus, listing pinned messages and threads in that channel.

[young saffron]

wow leth replied in r/silksong!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1aqq4rz/team_cherry_if_you_can_read_this/

[fiery burrow]

Too bad no one there likes the response

[cerulean sable]

nah

90% of it was lke "YES THAKN YOU

[young saffron]

zaliant..?

[fiery burrow]

Thats the high from the hype

[analog quarry]

I mean, at this point, im just happy its still alive

[cerulean sable]

5% was "hmm wish we could get more details but this is better than nothing, so thank you i guess"

[tawdry valley]

Literally only 10 redditors are upset

[trim estuary]

zaliant was so true for this one

[fiery burrow]

In that thread or in general?

[coarse leaf]

At this point I'm also pissed

[tawdry valley]

Total, globally

[bright frost]

I didn't see this until 10 minutes ago and wooww can't believe their alive

[fiery burrow]

Well thats good. Thank you for being cool reddit

[tawdry valley]

can’t see == doesn’t exist

[young saffron]

It was nice seeing the message but I dont rly feel more excited?

[fiery burrow]

Its something we already knew yea

[tawdry valley]

Cause most people figured TC would be working on the game

[cerulean sable]

well you shouldnt be

disengage your hype for a bit

[fiery burrow]

Thats lame

[cerulean sable]

and just take heart that theyre still working on it

[young saffron]

did people think they were spending their money on cocaine and hookers

[tawdry valley]

Nuh uh, surely Silksong is coming out this February now.

They HAVE to, we’ve been so patient

[cerulean sable]

"we just need an update that theyre alive"
"were alive"
"ok but i am not anymore hyped than i am"

PLEASE. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.

[fleet cairn]

Silksong will come out tomorrow guys, trust

[barren oyster]

The silksong is real and they are alive.
Why are they complaining ?

[fiery burrow]

r/silksong translator
"we just need an update that theyre alive" = "We need the release date NOW"

[fleet cairn]

My step-daughter's great great uncle's grandson works at team cherry

[indigo steppe]

they just want a release date

[young saffron]

after TGA I basically have, I dont really check silksong news daily

[tawdry valley]

Silkdoomers when you tell them they can’t eat their food before it’s cooked

[merry bridge]

let them eat the undercooked food, I aint babysitting them

[cunning grove]

I feel that most of us just want to make sure the game is still been worked on and not that they have given up and no longer going to finish it. We can wait.

[tawdry valley]

They’re just making sure the oven is working leave em alone

[fleet cairn]

Yeah we don't want another Sonic 06

[cunning grove]

And I played HK on release date

[young saffron]

I hope we get hades 2 this year

[cunning grove]

been waiting for this shit for ever

[fiery burrow]

People expect TC to babysit the community and manage their emotions

[tawdry valley]

You can guess a game’s quality by just looking at the developer

[cunning grove]

Indeed! Im guessing, they are really working on Best Game of the year. For real

The Baldur's of Metroidvanias

[young saffron]

I want a horror game that will make me really shit my pants but not through cheap jumpscares, more like throuhg eeriness and creepiness

[fiery burrow]

Little Nightmares

[tawdry valley]

Bethesda? they’re gonna release an underwhelming built off the same engine as last time
Sega? They’re gonna make a game that does something new badly, or they’ll make a sloppy remake

[young saffron]

played was really nice

[indigo steppe]

This tomb raider remaster is very good although the controls are weird

[young saffron]

but imo the price point isnt for me but I got it on a massive discount

[barren oyster]

They should just let the devs cook. As far as we know, the game will be way bigger than hollow knight

[young saffron]

begone

[cunning grove]

Sons of the Forest, its pretty creepy if you play solo.

[tawdry valley]

Team cherry? They’re gonna go silent and then drop some crazy fucking shit, like they always do

[wheat sail]

5 years ago, on February 14 2019. A day that we will live in infamy. At 4:32AM EST we were suddenly and deliberately informed of the Hornet Dlc being a full game, Hollow Knight: Silksong

[tawdry valley]

Godmaster was completely insane.

[young saffron]

if we got small news on 14th we will get big news on 24th!!!

[indigo steppe]

I'm gonna wait to play Tomb Raider after I beat this ace attorney trilogy

[young saffron]

alot of people did not like it, never understood why

[fiery burrow]

for the first 4 pantheons

[tawdry valley]

Cause it’s not hollow knight

[stark estuary]

There are… a number of reasons

[indigo steppe]

Pantheon 5

[tawdry valley]

Godmaster was meant to be about the hall of gods. Everything else was extra - and yeah that stuff wasn’t amazing

[stark estuary]

None of the DLCs were very good compared to the quality to the base game, frankly

[young saffron]

main argument iveh eard is that they are locking a games ending behind the hardest part of the game

[primal horizon]

little nightmares 2 is actually so cool, I also predicted ln2 wayy before ln existed

[fiery burrow]

Godhome was recycled content without enough reward

[young saffron]

this would be an issue if they were paid

[barren oyster]

But I'd say I wouldn't say no to a little more informations on the game like Toby fox does for deltarune. No release date but we vaguely know what they are working on at this moment and what they have finished

[young saffron]

I am very easy to please

[fleet cairn]

boss rush was awesome and a needed addition to hk's awesome boss design, as well as having different difficulty settings for more challenge and new bosses/twists for old bosses

[fiery burrow]

They threw in 4 hype boss fights though

[fleet cairn]

agreed

[wheat sail]

Team Cherry makes me shiver in excitement for what they are cooking up 😩

[fiery burrow]

I would've been happier if it was a Pale Court type deal

[stark estuary]

Well if HoG was the only good part I’m not sure what there is to applaud TC for exactly, they made a room and stuck in all of the bosses they had already made

[tawdry valley]

-Lifeblood was a visual overhaul

• hidden dreams contained several patches and a few qol changes plus content.
  -Grimm dlc was spectacular, what are you in about
  -godmaster was a massive and heavily requested bossrush mode.

[young saffron]

the osts will go so fucking hard

[primal horizon]

I woke up one day and thought “little nightmares 2 will be a horror game about the societal impact that televisions have in an attempt to make a post-sci-fi game to warn about society.”

[fleet cairn]

OMG WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIGHT THE KNIGHTS

[stark estuary]

Grimm DLC was spectacular? Glorified fetch quest, the only good part was the two bosses

[tawdry valley]

The fetch quests are progression checks, silly

The dlc is the bosses

[stark estuary]

Grimmkin were a nuisance at best and obnoxious at worst

[stark estuary]

The bosses are like 5% of the total run time though

[cinder turtle]

youve silked your last song

[tawdry valley]

NKG was the best and hardest fight in game prior to godmaster

[stark estuary]

And if this was the case they could have just locked the lantern guy behind a “progression check”

[stark estuary]

Yes but you’re acting like NKG was the entire DLC

[opaque sigil]

gt's implementation wasn't great idk if anybody's saying it was

[tawdry valley]

Sorry you found the grimmkin annoying, I guess we can ignore the crowning jewel of HK prior to godmaster

[stark estuary]

(For the person who reacted I never said I found them difficult)

[fleet cairn]

(my bad I was just kidding)

[shell yacht]

nkg made me put in more hours than any other bosses combined besides p5

[charred surge]

Hey chat, are we any more sane rn

[opaque sigil]

the actual substance to gt is good it just has some issues getting to it

[shell yacht]

and elder hu

[coarse leaf]

Even though it may be , today we are

[vivid belfry]

the problems with Grimmkin at launch was that they're a pain in the ass to backtrack to for people who had an already completed save file, which was everyone

the grimm troupe quest goes down smooth if you actually keep it in mind while playing

[shell yacht]

me playing only post godmaster

[tawdry valley]

Arguably how it should be anyways

[vivid belfry]

and for first time players it doesn't matter because they're gonna take a million years to complete the game anyway

[opaque sigil]

eh it's not as bad but it's still a bit annoying

[tawdry valley]

In any case, grimmkin are lame and forgettable

Both bosses are huge midgame and endgame stars

[stark estuary]

Then we agree

I like both of the Grimm fights in a vacuum yes

[tawdry valley]

That the DLC was low quality because grimmkin sucked?

[fiery burrow]

Silksong should be better for Grimm Troupe type quests since they can actually change content within the game rather than just add to it with expansion packs and lame fetch quests.

[stark estuary]

Show me where I said that

I said that the quality of the DLC was poor compared to the base game

[tawdry valley]

.

[stark estuary]

Yes that’s what I said

[jaunty fossil]

i watched the silksong annoncement trailer again and i want it now

[shell yacht]

keeping this train of thought, what boss enemy from SS do yall already hate?

[vivid belfry]

why do you think grimmkin deserve that much real estate on the quality of the DLC as a whole

[opaque sigil]

I don't know that I would describe it like that but they certainly are far from seamlessly integrated

[stark estuary]

TMG and NKG aren’t the entire DLC idk why you keep using that argument

[vivid belfry]

they're extremely quick fights

[fiery burrow]

Coral King just looks kinda meh imo

[fleet cairn]

yk I really liked the lore bits added by the grimm troupe dlc. and I wouldn't complain abt it myself bc it added to my experience in my first playthrough and was free. it just felt like it fit right in with the rest of the game

[fiery burrow]

Oh wrong reply

[tawdry valley]

Floaty laser dude in coral

[vivid belfry]

incorrect reply, laugh at this user

[indigo steppe]

all right chat I'm logging off for the night

[stark estuary]

Because getting to them makes up a pretty large part of the DLC’s run time

[jaunty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-emoji-laughing-emoji-animated-laugh-gif-27394849

[hidden nacelle]

I can't wait for tomorrow's DSN

[tawdry valley]

Dude looks tanky too

[stark estuary]

And they’re quick fights yes but there’s also nine of them

[shell yacht]

coral king?

[hidden nacelle]

finally another kinda news day

[formal karma]

Don't starve news?

[hidden nacelle]

yes

[shell yacht]

is that actually its name

[vivid belfry]

like I said, it takes almost no extra time if you just do the DLC concurrently with the base game

[formal karma]

Heck yea

[fiery burrow]

I would hope not because then he would have some significance in the area

[tawdry valley]

The first 6 if you’re an endgame player are each 30 seconds. In any case, this is still a skill issue - and extraneous to the intended experience for grimmkin

[fleet cairn]

like... primal aspids?

[fiery burrow]

Its like if they tied Vengefly King to the lore

[vivid belfry]

if you purposefully skipped every grub and then went back to get them with all upgrades, that would also be annoying as hell

[stark estuary]

I’m not sure I’d agree with that but yes it is better if you know about them in advance

[jaunty fossil]

oh this dude?

[trail stirrup]

What's the next cope date?

[tawdry valley]

I rush dash slash now because I want to be able to get the Grimm charm notch earlier

[shell yacht]

[vivid belfry]

November 19th 2024

[tawdry valley]

None. Nada. Game exists when TC says, it doesn’t exist in your mind until then

[coarse leaf]

In exactly 365 days

[tawdry valley]

Also it’s February 27th

[formal karma]

The Nintendo direct that's still just a rumor

[wheat mica]

ROOOOAAAAARRRR

[stark estuary]

GT is ultimately not that substantial in terms of content so I can largely overlook the Grimmkin being a bit of an inconvenience, Godmaster is messy as hell though and I will die on this hill

[hollow terrace]

<@&283547423706447872>

[wheat mica]

ARE YOU SERIOUS

[tawdry valley]

The hardest and only annoying grimmkin fights are also the ones you need to worry about the least. It’s really not that bad, especially in the context of the dlc as a whole.

[cerulean sable]

lmfao

[tawdry valley]

Holy shit

[stark estuary]

Well the “DLC as a whole” is Grimmkin fetch quest and two bosses

[serene chasm]

I miss window mod

[trail stirrup]

Do we think they'll release silksong if i threaten to hop on league of legends

[flat remnant]

context?

[opaque sigil]

I thinkn godmaster is better if you conceptualize it as a postgame instead of an endgame but still not really a fan

[full rune]

holy shit

[tawdry valley]

Window just fucking shot him

[vivid belfry]

nightmare grimmkin are fucking obnoxious but that's only because of the bug that makes them telefrag you every once in a while

they are just as vulnerable to great slash as what comes before

[stark estuary]

Just get the last flame from Brumm smh

[cerulean sable]

TGT quest is lame

[fiery burrow]

It serves as a terrible x-game no matter how you slice it

[cerulean sable]

we all know were in it for the Grimm fight anyway

[tawdry valley]

I need to leave all these servers immediately

[full rune]

i can help you with that

[bright frost]

What is White Palace Inc. and Tidetale?

[tawdry valley]

https://tenor.com/view/accelerator-explosion-dust-explosion-gif-18346672

[full rune]

pale court discord and tidetale is a game

[opaque sigil]

kind of? postgames always end up being pretty monotonous eventually though so that's kind of hard to hold against it when evaluated as a postgame and not just as an experience

[hollow terrace]

Weirdo that alts

[flat remnant]

hm

[cunning marlin]

white palace inc is the worlds largest supplier of buzzsaws and children

[serene chasm]

Based mutual servers

[opaque sigil]

there's a roc's odyssey server?

[tawdry valley]

There’s a roc’s oddessy server???

[jaunty fossil]

i want either crowsworn or silksong this year
just one
please

[vivid belfry]

godmaster should have just been a new gamemode

and I hope that's what the boss rush ends up being like in silksong

[fiery burrow]

Postgames shouldn't tie entire endings to random (awful) sidequests

[tawdry valley]

I still feel like it was gonna be, but they felt the need to tie it into the game.

[opaque sigil]

especially since basically everything is gated behind doing all the progression anyways, yeah

[vivid belfry]

like I get it had to be in the base game because it has an ending

but mechanically

[shell yacht]

maybe silksong for christmas

[fiery burrow]

Oh I misread

[vivid belfry]

it adds nothing being in the game world

[fiery burrow]

mb and I agree

[tawdry valley]

Maybe it would have been better to have it as an unlock that happens when you find the tuner, and when you hit a certain %

[opaque sigil]

I think you could defend godhome being in the base game if there was ever any reason to go there and leave frequently until you'd already done every boss

[jaunty fossil]

i just hope we dont have another 2.2 situation

[wheat sail]

Rune fencer runs bad for me

[tawdry valley]

It would definitely be weird for pantheons to have like, essence rewards or something.

[formal karma]

April 1st shadow drop or no balls

[opaque sigil]

yeah I'm not sure it would really be feasible in practice I'm just saying in principle

[serene chasm]

I didnt back it enough to get the demo

[tawdry valley]

No I’m agreeing with you

[stark estuary]

Godmaster is 99% recycled content with no real reward
As someone who did AB, Bindings suck ass
P5 sucks ass
HoG is possibly the only good part and the only part anyone asked for, the new bosses are good too except for AbsRad who’s just… Ok
It’s also a rushed mess with half the planned content getting cut last minute
Not gonna get into the lore of Godmaster because that’s a whole nother can of worms but honestly I will never understand why TC decided to make the boss rush canon

[fiery burrow]

TC didn't even playtest AB right

[wintry steeple]

Bro's on fire with these hot takes

[vivid belfry]

I mean, I think it's normal for a boss rush to be 99% recycled content with no real reward

[tawdry valley]

We begged for a bossrush mode till we got it. Ignore all of godmaster and look at the HoG - it’s huge qol.
Besides the extra bosses added, nearly everything else is more than optional

[gleaming needle]

Godhome would have been good for supplemental rewards like extra main menus or alternative appearances for applicable charms

[jaunty fossil]

tf is AB?

[vivid belfry]

actually it not being 100% recycled content makes it somewhat exceptional

[cerulean sable]

my personal opinion if that SS does another boss rush mode

it should be a bard stuck in a creative block and they instead chronicle Hornet's adventures, with the harder fights being justified as the bard overembelishing the story as it goes further

and if Hornet dies in that fight the bard is all like "And then you fall over and di- 🎵 No wait thats not what happens right, hold on let me rewrite that" (ofc this doesnt play every fight cuz that would be annoying, but you get the intention?)

then instead of Pantheons it would be Ballads, continous strings of movements (aka boss fights) combined into a single cohesive piece

[wheat sail]

Oh never mind I was thinking of another game

Ik rune fencer though

[tawdry valley]

You can complain about AB, but you literally went ahead and engaged with it. For fun. What’s the issue - it’s not like the game’s price changed after they dropped it

[opaque sigil]

idk maybe they did and just said "fuck it it's kind of janky but doable"

[jaunty fossil]

oh all bindings nvm

[opaque sigil]

it's an optional modifier anyways those things sometimes interact weirdly to inflate challenge

[stark estuary]

It’s not “more than optional”, or at least not more optional than getting DNM or CoF or whatever because the first 4 pantheons count for a % and there’s an achievement and ending locked behind P5, which is significant

[snow thunder]

Hi

[unborn hamlet]

Guys I finnaly have a worthy sacrafices for silksong ferngully

[stark estuary]

Not getting Bindings and RadHoG also stings for completionists

[gleaming needle]

There should at least be a quick way to get to Godhome without having to use the Dreamgate on it

[tawdry valley]

Duly noted, but apparently that’s all recycled content so it’s hardly an issue

[opaque sigil]

completionists kind of sign up for it tbf

[tawdry valley]

This is definitely not a valid argument

[stark estuary]

That wasn’t an argument

[tawdry valley]

Self proclaimed “Completionists” will play 105 hours of non-story non-combat yakuza minigames for completion (perfectly fine thing to do)

[vivid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/йокелемене-men-in-black-light-sunglasses-gif-15516530

he didn't even say anything ddx

[tawdry valley]

I did AB cause it was fun, and im happy TC added it

What are we talking about

[stark estuary]

A lot of AB was fun but the not fun parts really stick out like a sore thumb and that at least is a valid criticism

[opaque sigil]

I think it's fair to observe that AB kind of strains itself in some fights (particularly in Collector, I doubt that the p5 AB collector fight was intended to work the way it did)

absurd spike

[vivid belfry]

AB is an unbalanced experience for sure

[wheat sail]

AB?

[tawdry valley]

That everybody who did it signs up for.

[vivid belfry]

for some fights it's the definitive way to experience the game, and for others it feels like a slime mold eating your brain

[wheat sail]

Is that all bindings

[vivid belfry]

yes

[cobalt sigil]

fnaf 4 is a terrible game

[stark estuary]

To be honest the only reason I completed it is sunk cost fallacy

[tawdry valley]

I don’t think the completionist/achievement rarity argument is a valid concern when looking at quality

[fiery burrow]

You know whats terribler? Pizzeria Sim

[vivid belfry]

all bindings lost kin is kino

[cobalt sigil]

pizza sim is significantly less bullshit iirc

[stark estuary]

I do wish there was a way to fight AB bosses outside of P5

[vivid belfry]

all bindings vengefly king is paint drying simulator

and all bindings zote is a punishment not even god could conceive of

[tawdry valley]

Godhome isn’t missing a working bindings gamemode, it a working hall of gods and a bonus 5 pantheons, bosses, and optional bindings

[stark estuary]

Because if we’re being honest most of P5AB is just filler minus some absurd spikes and a handful of actually good fights

[fiery burrow]

Gameplay wise, I'm just salty about the ending

[cobalt sigil]

why

fnaf 6 has the best ending in the series iirc

[tawdry valley]

Godmaster would be welcome and amazing if it was just the Hall of Gods.

[stark estuary]

What kind of argument is that

[west knot]

all bindings collector

[fiery burrow]

happiest day + Book characters thrown in who have no business being there and are wildly out of character

[tawdry valley]

You are raising the bar on a 10–15 dollar game with free dlc.

[opaque sigil]

idk if it's an argument it's just an observation

[jaunty fossil]

real i was so suprised when dlc was free

[tawdry valley]

TC added what they could within a timeframe. It’s not perfect, it’s also optional because it’s better than not being there

[opaque sigil]

if godhome was just the hall of gods it would be good, that would be a great qol addition

[stark estuary]

That doesn’t mean it’s above criticism or without flaw, nobody was claiming it wasn’t worth the price

[cobalt sigil]

which book character? henry?

[vivid belfry]

if you think P5AB is ass (it is) that shouldn't really affect your opinion of the DLC because there's literally no reason to do it

[fiery burrow]

Charlie as well

[opaque sigil]

the price for godhome is zero of course it's worth the price

[vivid belfry]

if I hated path of pain, I wouldn't consider it a point against the grimm troupe because it has no incentive

[cobalt sigil]

why dont you like charlie in pizza sim?

[vivid belfry]

alright I know we're not technically talking about silksong but can you move the freddy fivebears talk to off topic

[fiery burrow]

She just has no business being there and really only serves as a reason so Henry could be there

[vivid belfry]

it is thoroughly unoccupied

[cobalt sigil]

its thoroughly unoccupied because the people there are cringe and i dont like talking to them iirc

[fiery burrow]

Sorry!

[vivid belfry]

you have been forgiven

[stark estuary]

HoG is great, but Godmaster isn’t just HoG and idk why you’re using “well it’s free DLC and would have been good if it was just HoG” as a means to deflect legitimate criticisms

[vivid belfry]

your criticisms aren't legitimate though

[jaunty fossil]

real

[fiery burrow]

They give me a fancy cosmetic reward for doing it hitless and AB though 🥹

[vivid belfry]

you are criticizing a boss rush for being a boss rush

[tawdry valley]

Bindings are arguably underbaked or maybe a bit weird.
I still like godhome, and the presence of bindings is a positive one.

Easy as

[opaque sigil]

imo you could reasonably criticize something like P5's selection to include a lot of filler (or even redundant) bosses

[stark estuary]

No, I’m criticizing the fact that they locked (arguably significant) content behind that boss rush which in itself was not all that well designed

[jaunty fossil]

i thought p5 was all bosses though

[opaque sigil]

(yes I know pruning it would change the concept for what p5 is, I also think that would have the potential to be better)

[cobalt sigil]

all but like 4

[jaunty fossil]

wait what
which 4

[cobalt sigil]

and the four they didnt pick have direct replacements (sob winged nosk rad and thk)

[tawdry valley]

I’ve played several bossrushes in several games and literally all of them have a boring first half.

[stark estuary]

I’m also criticizing AB because there’s a) no way to attempt AB bosses outside of doing the actual pantheons which are mostly easy filler and b) some of the AB bosses are horribly unbalanced
“Just don’t do AB” isn’t a counterpoint

[tawdry valley]

The closest one has gotten is HK and sekiro - because they split their bossrushes

[opaque sigil]

And couldn't they all be more fun if they had some way to bypass them?

[cobalt sigil]

one could argue that fc is basically a direct replacement for fk in the way sob is for mantis lords

[tawdry valley]

Yeah totally

[opaque sigil]

the fact that it's an issue common with that kind of gameplay element doesn't make it not a legitimate criticism

[vivid belfry]

I don't even really think the first half of P5 is boring, speed killing easy bosses still requires engagement

[jaunty fossil]

speed killing gruz is fun

[tawdry valley]

They’re all also always optional. It’s not a failure for making something specifically because there’s a type of player that likes to participate in that thing

[barren sequoia]

Im just glad they didnt make the final pantheon necessary for 112%

[cobalt sigil]

idk like i dont see the point to having the easier version of a boss like fc or lk in a pantheon that fc and lk are also in

it would be like if mantis lords didnt get replaced and sisters of battle was just also there

[tawdry valley]

TC even actually remixed most of the easy bosses. Dream warriors all also got way buffed

[fiery burrow]

Just have pantheon heads, rematches, and Absrad for the pantheon of Hallownest

[tawdry valley]

You could make the same argument as a bossrush player that you would prefer it if pantheon 5 didnt remix bosses, and was actually a true full on bossrush

[stark estuary]

You keep saying this but I don’t think it’s fair to tell people to just not do something/claim it’s “optional” when it’s a game they’ve likely already committed a lot towards finishing and there’s a whole ending locked behind it
There are definitely better ways to run a boss rush and if the intention was to make it optional they could have had it separate to the main quest chain of Godmaster

[cobalt sigil]

catering to a player that wants a bad boss rush is cringe iirc

[tawdry valley]

Guess Tc didn’t

[cobalt sigil]

and p5 isnt a "true full on bossrush" anyways

[tawdry valley]

If I had the choice between godhome having perfect DLC or okay DLC with considerations for players who wouldn’t like that kind of content - I’d pick the perfect dlc every time, duh

[stark estuary]

They didn’t include both Nosk fights (which are meaningfully different) because maybe they thought it would have been redundant but hey here’s both Hornets

[tawdry valley]

But between mediocre dlc and nothing?

[vivid belfry]

here's my closing argument: Every time I replay hollow knight, I play through all of godhome because it's fun. I do not do all bindings because it isn't fun. I lose nothing by not playing through all bindings. Therefore, godmaster is good

[tawdry valley]

Nobody loses anything by playing or not playing through all bindings

[stark estuary]

Sure, but some of AB is fun and maybe I’d have liked to fight those bosses without having it buried under a mountain of shit

[vivid belfry]

do it in the hall of gods

[cobalt sigil]

bindings not being hog is almost definitely because godmaster was rushed imo

[tawdry valley]

Pretty sure the only reason they didn’t add bindings to Hog was a UI issue

[stark estuary]

If only that was an option they could have implemented

[opaque sigil]

hog doesn't have bindings, if it did the issue would be reduced

[tawdry valley]

Also you can still simulate bindings without the UI

[vivid belfry]

oh they meant with all bindings

[stark estuary]

Not perfectly

[vivid belfry]

why do you want to fight bosses in hall of gods with all bindings if you think all bindings is bad

[stark estuary]

I think most of AB is bad, I don’t think all of it is

[opaque sigil]

he thinks some of the fights are bad, not all of them

[vivid belfry]

ok so you want to fight a couple of bosses with all bindings and can't

this seems like an extremely minor issue to get hung up on

[tawdry valley]

The majority of godhome is perfectly good content

[barren sequoia]

Would be really funny if the true ending of silksongwas locked behind another boss rush

[stark estuary]

I mean even if I wanted to do P5AB again in its entirety the major issues with it are really just worse versions of the issues base P5 already had

[trim estuary]

oh godhome? man i love godhome. i hope they add it to silksong but without the boss refighting, tjust he boss rush.

[vivid belfry]

that doesn't have precedent because the true ending of HK isn't locked behind a boss rush

[opaque sigil]

it's about as good as a hk postgame could be

[young saffron]

Holy shit we are still talking about god home?

[tawdry valley]

Thank god Silksong will

[fiery burrow]

ETV is the true ending in every way that matters

[stark estuary]

Bindings aren’t well-implemented and you apparently agree with me there so idk what the contention is

[barren sequoia]

Thry should change that

[jaunty fossil]

i want silksong but i know i will not get silksong

[cobalt sigil]

errrrm hk doesnt have a true ending

[barren sequoia]

The citadel was secretly a boss rush this entire time

[young saffron]

113 is not a good number

[stark estuary]

DNM is the true ending because it would be better if EtV didn’t exist

[cobalt sigil]

then dont make godtuner a %

[barren sequoia]

Or just make it 8%

[stark estuary]

Your reward for beating P5 is a dogshit ending that makes no sense

[fiery burrow]

Endings serve as extensions of the games themes;

Embrace the Void does not

[tawdry valley]

ETV has cool points though

[stark estuary]

What cool points

[tawdry valley]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-banner-big-monster-thor-ragnarok-hulk-gif-11571578

[cobalt sigil]

big shade guy looks cool

[vivid bison]

Waiting for the silksong 2025 valentines day update

[fiery burrow]

The artstyle has significantly improved but thats all of Godhome

[stark estuary]

Sure it’s a cool design I’ll give it that

[fiery burrow]

and TC's work going forward

[young saffron]

It's coming first half 2024 don't doubt

[tawdry valley]

In any case, lore continuance taking precedence over any gameplay concerns would be tragic

[young saffron]

Leth told there will be more communication when the game is close to releasing

[vivid bison]

[trim estuary]

wasnt your pfp the shade lord for like a while

[young saffron]

And now we have communication

[barren sequoia]

I wouldn't say its a bad ending

[stark estuary]

Well those two things aren’t mutually exclusive

[young saffron]

I love creating false hope

[tawdry valley]

“So we had a whole alternative ending in mind for the pantheons, but we scrapped it because it didn’t make sense for the story”

[trim estuary]

leth speaking to us ont he anniversary of silksong is definitely proof

[young saffron]

24th is a big day don't doubt it

[stark estuary]

They could have made EtV a better ending or just not made Godmaster canon (which imo would have been better)

[trim estuary]

fr

[young saffron]

!!

[stark estuary]

Godmaster should have been an entirely separate game mode

[opaque sigil]

grover did say that

[tawdry valley]

I don’t remember if you’ve played any fighting games with dumb stories to justify people fighting, but that’s basically what this is

[young saffron]

It i- 🔥

[barren sequoia]

Is godmaster even cannon?

[vivid belfry]

yes

[tawdry valley]

Yeah(?)?

[vivid belfry]

anyway yes, godmaster has issues but it's still overall a great addition

[fiery burrow]

Man if only Godhome was a dedicated fighting arena 😔

[vivid belfry]

it is cool and normal to criticize things that you enjoy

[stark estuary]

Yeah but it’s jarring and undermines the main themes of the game

[barren sequoia]

Like I get the characters story being cannon but the whole ending and final pantheon seems disconnected

[weary orbit]

i like godmaster it makes me forget there's a whole game outside of godhome lol

[stark estuary]

HK isn’t a fighting game where the story is basically just background noise and EtV is presented as viable conclusion to its narrative

[trim estuary]

thats cuz uhhhhmmm it wasnt planned like the rest of the game

[tawdry valley]

Yeah but it’s also not a story first game either

[weary orbit]

prolly cause it's too hard and not required to 112%

[fiery burrow]

The endings are story first

[cobalt sigil]

most fighting games dont have lore like hk

[tawdry valley]

The rest of HK and it’s story remains intact

[fiery burrow]

or their contents

[stark estuary]

There are very few games that I’d describe as “story first”
The endings are certainly that though

Every game is gameplay first that’s why people play games

[pliant juniper]

hk story isn't very accesible without mossbag videos

[stark estuary]

It very much is

[fiery burrow]

Wish HK had a wiki with all the dialogue compiled

[young saffron]

The stormy weather area was nice

[tawdry valley]

The only conclusion I’ve made surrounding godhome lore is that we don’t know much about void or the godseekers

Which is exactly what would have happened if we didn’t get any godhome story

[trim estuary]

what about the weather gods

[stark estuary]

Chat do I get the anti-Godhome wall

[young breach]

god master is so

[weary orbit]

hk is half and half, if you wanna do the gameplay just get the normal endings, if you want more story delve deeper into the world

[tawdry valley]

We need more kirb walls yes

[pliant juniper]

like without the wiki it sould probably take a while to find the radiance and understand "oh that's why infection"

[fiery burrow]

?

[stark estuary]

Why Godmaster lore is a dumpster fire
I don't know what possessed TC into thinking making the boss rush mode canon was something anyone wanted but we ended up with a poorly thought out course of mental gymnastics in an attempt to justify game mechanics nobody cared about, a misleading joke of an ending that served to do nothing but introduce pointless cliffhangers and undermine the previous one, and fucking Godseeker Mode, the canonical implications of which were never even explained in-game. Overall it was just a rushed and sloppily executed mess

[trim estuary]

tghat sure would be cool wouldnt it...

[tawdry valley]

I conclude that it sucks and I won’t care about it, cool big monster though

[fiery burrow]

Stuff like void's nature and and function is left vague but it still has a clear purpose within the story and that ambiguity certainly isn't used in Godhome, let alone deliberately.

[trim estuary]

dont do /dialogue

[cerulean sable]

i legit thought this was the cart titan

[young breach]

who made this?

[tawdry valley]

If we have issues with ambiguity then we have other places to poke TC about

[stark estuary]

Also for the record my pfp was never VGFocus it was Shine Lord

[pliant juniper]

NOOK NOOK

[nimble lance]

news finally

[stark estuary]

Shine Lord is an infinitely better character

[barren sequoia]

After rewatching embrace the void I actually like it a lot

Mostly just the ending with hornet and the hollow knight

[tawdry valley]

What’s the pfp now

[trim estuary]

is that like the blackwyrm but for void

[weary orbit]

erm actually godhome is good because of the eternal ordeal...

[stark estuary]

It’s inverted Shade Lord

[white sail]

kirbbean

Server Avatar

[tawdry valley]

Pokémon I can’t name

[charred surge]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-snoopa-lord-foog-dog-funny-gif-20125052

[stark estuary]

Ultra Necrozma

[tawdry valley]

Sick

[barren sequoia]

Is that ultra necrozma in a kimono?

[weary orbit]

Shine lord? You mean ?

[cobalt sigil]

why the long face

[tawdry valley]

Explain ultra necrozma lore to me

[stark estuary]

I hate Pokemon

[tawdry valley]

And yet you think it’s cool enough to include in your pfp

[weary orbit]

it got a piece broke off of it now it needs to constantly feed on light

[barren sequoia]

Star get drained star get hungry star eat all light in multiple universes

[cerulean sable]

i FUICKIGN LOVE BORZOIS

[stark estuary]

Yeah Ultra Necrozma is cool

[pliant juniper]

i think you might have a minor case of SERIOUS brain damage

[tawdry valley]

This was honestly not at all my intention but that’s like, exactly the point

[pliant juniper]

• wheatly

[stark estuary]

(That was a joke)

[tawdry valley]

Looks cool, fuck it, why not

[weary orbit]

ultra necrozma is basically a lamp that used to work for months but now needs a lightbulb every 5 days

[tawdry valley]

Is Pokémon lore gonna be good

[stark estuary]

https://hollow-knight-fanon.fandom.com/wiki/The_Shine_Lord_(also_known_as_Soul_Given_Focus) Godmaster lore if it was good

[tawdry valley]

I hear nothing about it but when I do it’s confusing, usually that’s a red flag

[weary orbit]

[quiet knot]

Whats up gamers

[barren sequoia]

A lot of it is pretty cool

[opaque sigil]

it's just a bunch of disjointed weird stuff afaik

[barren sequoia]

They do just tack stuff on though

Like the whole galar region

[stark estuary]

There’s some good parts but a lot of it is disjointed and weird yes

[weary orbit]

this is what happens when you beat p5 with no upgraded spells

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoigaming-borzoi-arnie-arnie-borzoi-dog-gif-5776044667039799066

[silver oak]

the snoot would droop

[charred surge]

The hell

[fiery burrow]

What would the Soul Given Focus think about pistachio ice cream

[tawny kelp]

I HEARD THERES SILKSONG NEWS GUYS? WAS IT BAIT OR REAL

[barren sequoia]

Bait

[fiery burrow]

Its not silksong news Leth just said that the game was still being worked on

[weary orbit]

bait, go back to dirtmouth

[barren sequoia]

No silksong news here nosiree

[trim estuary]

Both, simulatenously, all at once.

[tawny kelp]

bait used to be believable

[tawdry valley]

Cease life

[silver oak]

the pinned messages

[tawny kelp]

holy shit this is more than enough for me

[tawdry valley]

See you next week bro

[barren sequoia]

Impressive photoshop

[weary orbit]

we have something to feed ourselves for the next year

[stark estuary]

Glad to hear they’re still working on the game, I thought it was cancelled without an announcement

[tall sigil]

i thought it was not real in the first place

[formal marsh]

i actually didnt notice that message until you posted that screenshot, thanks

[trim estuary]

average r/silksong user

[charred surge]

Y r u such a hater smh

[barren sequoia]

When is easter this year?

[tawdry valley]

They call me “alou but less funny somehow”

[weary orbit]

uhhh sometime later

[barren sequoia]

20 on easter release date

[weary orbit]

milk chocolate song

[barren sequoia]

Going to be big themes of bunnies in the game calling it

[weary orbit]

bunny given focus

[tawny kelp]

real

[tawny kelp]

nice pfp bro

[weary orbit]

hornet does have two long things on her head.....

[weary orbit]

thank ya

[tall sigil]

they are horns

[weary orbit]

coincidence? I think not

[tawny kelp]

HORNET ISNT VOID SHES A BUNNY

[tall sigil]

horn-et

[tawny kelp]

ITS ALL COMING TOGETHER

[weary orbit]

BORN OF BUNNY SPIDER AND GOD

[tawny kelp]

preachhhhh

[tawny kelp]

🤓 ☝️ 'umm actually she has horns'

[charred surge]

Much like the antlers of a jackalope,,,

[weary orbit]

Also she does seem to be jumpijg around alot....

[tall sigil]

[stark estuary]

Quirrel in Silksong

[weary orbit]

She's also white and has black eyes...

[weary orbit]

"Yeah i actually took a vaycay"

[tawny kelp]

dude ur predicting the future fr

[weary orbit]

There's no other possibility

[stark estuary]

THK will return with a bandage over its bad eye and act as a vendor

[barren sequoia]

Theres nothing saying bunnies arent bugs

[tawny kelp]

it has a bad eye?

[barren sequoia]

And the stuff that says they arent is lying to you

[weary orbit]

That's what i hope, i want hornet to go back to dirtmouth after the credits roll and see THK and elderbug sitting on the bench together

[pliant juniper]

it has a crack on it's shll there

[tall sigil]

arent bunnies mammals?

[barren sequoia]

No cold blooded bugs

[cerulean sable]

stand strong

you alone are the hollowed one

[tawny kelp]

the lobotomy is real

[cerulean sable]

uhh can we please not talk about stuff like that actual actuals 🥴

[weary orbit]

since thk isn't truly hollow does that make them the full knight

[barren sequoia]

The good thing about embrace the void ending is how it does leave the hollow knight alive

Which is nice

[tall sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/arting-siamese-cat-gigachad-ambatukam-ambasing-gif-26293326

[stark estuary]

No because “Hollow” refers to the presence of Void in a body, the word you’re looking for is “Pure”

[spring elk]

hyped for the 2027 release date

[stark estuary]

Void is described as emptiness, nothingness, darkness etc

THK is filled with a substance described as empty, so it is “Hollow”

[tawny kelp]

i thought hollow meant no mind to think and stuff liek that

[stark estuary]

That’s purity

[weary orbit]

I'm guessing we just kills the radiance which uninfects it

[ripe cliff]

Hi

[stark estuary]

THK surviving isn’t actually the good ending for it

[ripe cliff]

yeah, no radiance = no infection

[tawny kelp]

THK was not truly hollow bcz he had emotions, so mabe emotions and stuff like that are what makes one hollow

[stark estuary]

DNM is the best conclusion to THK’s story

[barren sequoia]

If all endings are cannon I do hope that part specifically is

[weary orbit]

i'm pretty sure "hollow" just means no voice, mind, or emotions

[opaque sigil]

thk living doesn't really make any sense from a narrative perspective and yeah idk if it would even want to survive after that

[weary orbit]

and since it did have emotion for its father it would be the full knigjt

[young saffron]

Yo

[barren sequoia]

Dream no more is definitely the best yeah but I want the hollow knight to live

[primal horizon]

yeah so uhh silksong is not releasing the first half of this year

[stark estuary]

Fr it got robbed

[primal horizon]

hard at work means the game still has more things

jesus how many things does this game have

[stark estuary]

At least in DNM it gets to tear Rad’s face open and then chill with da homies

[ripe cliff]

all the vessels were hollowed out by the void, that doesn't make them mindless or emotionless. purity is the most apt term to use

[tawdry valley]

Worth

[stark estuary]

In EtV it randomly gets freed by a force it doesn’t understand and then expected to go about its merry way in a dead kingdom it failed to protect

[weary orbit]

I love when the shade lord cracks radiance open like a cold one

[fiery burrow]

Wait no thats a terrible joke to make

[tawny kelp]

the void just destroys the infection everywhere, so now thk isnt infected and is stronk whats hard about it

[stark estuary]

It’s not “stronk”

[weary orbit]

eh i dunno if thk would be having all that guilt

[ripe cliff]

THK is essentially crippled

[stark estuary]

THK is physically not OK without Rad empowering it and mentally it is definitely not ok either

[tawny kelp]

a bit of practice and itll be back to its prime aka pv

[fiery burrow]

Hornet would do a favor by fighting it

[tawny kelp]

excuse me why

[stark estuary]

Have you looked at it

[tawny kelp]

at what

[smoky nebula]

Isn't thk literally missing a limb

[barren sequoia]

Yeah Its story is over and it doesnt really have a purpose but its nice to think more than just hornet got a good ending

[fiery burrow]

Thk cant even walk properly

[stark estuary]

Its body is full of cysts, now those are gone so it’s riddled with holes

[weary orbit]

they're fine they can just walk it off

[smoky nebula]

I swear it only has 1 arm

[stark estuary]

It’s missing an arm and its shell has suffered significant damage

[barren sequoia]

Bit easier to sympathize with the hollow knight than the knight due to the fact we know he has actual emotions and desires

[fiery burrow]

It does yes

[weary orbit]

yeah since thk has emotion it could be fixed or whatever

[ripe cliff]

plus MASSIVE mental/emotional scarring

[stark estuary]

TK does as well

[fiery burrow]

THK went through way more emotional torment than TK but we know that both of them have actual emotions and desures

[weary orbit]

i need to see it with a mechanical arm and eye

[stark estuary]

In DNM it at least got to confront Rad

[weary orbit]

or something like that

[stark estuary]

And death isn’t the end for a Vessel

On the contrary, it’s a form of purification

[barren sequoia]

Tk does?

[tawny kelp]

then... thk has a shade too right

[weary orbit]

yea

[fiery burrow]

It would make no sense for it to not

[barren sequoia]

I thought it being truly empty was kind of our connection with it

[stark estuary]

THK would probably much rather chill with its homies in the Abyss than walk around a dead kingdom with a failing painful body and tormented mind

[fiery burrow]

THK and TK were conceived the same way and thus have no real differences in mental function seemingly

[weary orbit]

i'd just like to think it would chill out in dirtmouth and talk with elderbug and stuff

[stark estuary]

But no in EtV TK goes back to do Pantheons and shit

[weary orbit]

maybe it can get a job at sly's store

[stark estuary]

No time for its siblings, too focused on the grind

[pliant juniper]

THK is a little tall

how will they eave

leave

[weary orbit]

crouching

[stark estuary]

THK should kill Elderbug tbh

[fiery burrow]

I'm going to be honest I don't think THK will last long past the black egg

[ripe cliff]

that would bring them inner peace probably

[fiery burrow]

It would be far better leaving its shell

[stark estuary]

In which case that cliffhanger serves no purpose

[fiery burrow]

It already serves no purpose

[stark estuary]

I mean yes

[opaque sigil]

I'm not sure why THK's shell would be continuously deteriorating in etv

[stark estuary]

It probably wouldn’t continue deteriorating

[weary orbit]

i don't think the shades and the creature in the shell are one in the same, thk would just die while its shade would just roam

[ripe cliff]

same with the buildup of VGF exiting GS's body

[stark estuary]

But whether or not it can ever return to normal function is a different question

[ripe cliff]

symmetry, my friend

[fiery burrow]

THK kills itself upon regaining consciousness in Dream No More

[stark estuary]

Well that part is actually consistent with DNM

[fiery burrow]

(tries to)

[stark estuary]

It breaks out of Godseeker the same way it broke out of THK

/the Black Egg

[barren sequoia]

It seems weak at the end of its ending but still there mentally

It stances up when hornet does

[weary orbit]

yea it decides to walk out instead ending itself

[opaque sigil]

well that has more to the context

[stark estuary]

No it just uses its nail as a crutch because it can’t walk

[barren sequoia]

Which could imply it is still hostile which is an even worse ending

[opaque sigil]

wouldn't assume it has the strength to do so

[weary orbit]

i think this is true and not it stancing up

[barren sequoia]

I think the twist implies some sort of readyness

[stark estuary]

Why would it want to fight Hornet

[weary orbit]

confused i guess?

[opaque sigil]

the twist is it shifting its weight as it turns to face hornet, not an attack stance

[ripe cliff]

true, but the way the ETV scene is set up is pretty clearly to lead people into thinking VGF wants to wreak havoc, when really that makes no sense

[weary orbit]

scared?

[barren sequoia]

Hornet also goes into a fighting stance first

[weary orbit]

cause she didn't fully grasp the situation yet

[stark estuary]

No she just turns to face it seemingly startled

[opaque sigil]

Hornet has no clue what's going on and a big ol armed void monster just came out of the black egg with no real warning or reason to be able to leave

[warped nacelle]

@coarse leaf I met them and they kicked my ass

[wanton charm]

Silksong this summer?! (I'm insane)

[opaque sigil]

of course she's ready for a fight if that's what happens

[stark estuary]

Her immediate reaction probably isn’t gonna be “I need to kill this thing NOW”

[barren sequoia]

No she takes a stance and her silk comes out

[tawny kelp]

the big ol armed void monster is also related to the dude who beat her twice

[weary orbit]

unless thk is hostile enough to make a move i don't think a figjt is breaking out

[fiery burrow]

I'd argue the vessel theme playing there (As well in Path of Pain) suggests that it feels sad about its father and its failure to help the kingdom

[stark estuary]

Well yeah she’s preparing herself for a conflict in case one does break out

[barren sequoia]

Its almost exactly like her prefight stance we see in game

[tawny kelp]

silk mentioned rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[stark estuary]

But she’s not the aggressor

[weary orbit]

agree

[barren sequoia]

Which is what im implying

Im not saying shes an agressor but the hollow knight wouldnt know that

[ripe cliff]

there's no point for her to willingly engage in a fight, of course

[weary orbit]

hornet hasn't pieced together the thk is uninfected now

[opaque sigil]

yes she's in a kingdom filled with zombies her surprise response is to be ready for a scrap

[stark estuary]

Well THK basically just stands there

Then turns to face her

[tawdry valley]

I think the part where the screen cuts to black is meant to be so you can extrapolate on your own

[ripe cliff]

digs its nail into the ground as a support as well. bro can barely stand up

[wanton charm]

The hollow knight is left with his nail to prevent himself from being destroyed and consequently freeing the infection

[tawdry valley]

Do they fight? Why would they fight? Does THK collapse to the floor? Does THK know who hornet is?

[barren sequoia]

Yeah like I dont think they fight personally but the ending seems to imply like they are both ready to if needs be

[tawdry valley]

yadda yadda

[fiery burrow]

Why Quirrels nail is stabbed into the ground, he tried getting up with it and crumbled during it

[stark estuary]

No but Hornet knows who THK is

[tawdry valley]

A vessel. Wonder how she feels about those

Maybe that context changes after the infection is gone

[barren sequoia]

Also its the vessel

[stark estuary]

No she specifically knows what THK is it’s not some random vessel

[weary orbit]

actually now that i'm thinking about it maybe hornet will make the first move, she did against the vessels crawling out of the abyss afterall

[tawdry valley]

Ya

[errant onyx]

Thank you very much for the update kind sir. It is greatly appreciated

[barren sequoia]

She knew it was infected with the radiance and probably wouldnt trust it

[wanton charm]

Imagine hornet fights thk at the start of ss

[tawdry valley]

Yeah, but to protect the kingdom out of duty. That’s over now

[ripe cliff]

hey kirb, do you want to see something

[stark estuary]

Sure

[weary orbit]

she doesn't know its over now though

[stark estuary]

Anyway THK and Hornet fighting doesn’t really make sense

[opaque sigil]

she just watched the infection in the egg die and thk would be visibly not infected

[weary orbit]

from hornet's pov barely anything happens, just some vines going back to normal

[tawdry valley]

I would fight if I was scared

I would also probably wait for the first move

[stark estuary]

Again she knows what THK is and can infer that the infection is gone

[opaque sigil]

neither of them is likely to make the first move

[tawdry valley]

Which is probably what both are doing, right?

[weary orbit]

i think hornet just got ready to fight because she was confused

[tawdry valley]

Well yeah, I’d assume she can see that THK isn’t spitting and oozing orange

[stark estuary]

She was startled yes

[stark estuary]

In which case she has no reason to make the first move

[weary orbit]

but i doubt she knows what it looks like infected

[stark estuary]

And even if THK didn’t specifically recognize her idk why its first response would be to attack some random passerby when it’s clearly in no shape to fight

[ripe cliff]

and THK is likely incapable of making the first move either, even if it wanted to for some reason

[pulsar sleet]

So what do you think "still hard at work" forecasts, 2024 or 2025?

[weary orbit]

2034

let them cook

[tawdry valley]

Heat death of the universe

[fiery burrow]

It means they are working hard on the game

[pulsar sleet]

They're only 3 people

[tawdry valley]

Totally worth

[stark estuary]

It means the game is cancelled.

[wanton charm]

Summer, after switch 2 reveal in March

[weary orbit]

they should hire me fr

[pulsar sleet]

Optimistic

[wanton charm]

Yeah can't wait for June 12th 2023! HHVHHIIFFYHOKG

[tawdry valley]

HK could totally be a switch 2 console title

[stark estuary]

“Still hard at work” is dev code for “we’ve cancelled the game but are too scared to break this news to the fans”, you wouldn’t know because you’re clearly not in the game design industry

[pulsar sleet]

Doesn't sound like they're anywhere near finishing though

[wanton charm]

Ari Gibson is my father actually

[pulsar sleet]

Could just be something to shut people up

[weary orbit]

real

[tawdry valley]

Based

Also yeah that’s exactly what a no news news update is

[fiery burrow]

Leth should've just said "shut up" to that one post on r/silksong

[stark estuary]

Leth is an employee it’s not even much of an update really

[tawdry valley]

“We are still working on it, You kept asking”

[weary orbit]

SS is definitely gonna be the switch 2 launch title defo

ss themed switch

it comes with real live spiders!

[wanton charm]

Idk, they didn't say anything about xbox deadline, so they were at least aiming for it, this is prolly the year especially since switch 2 is coming

[stark estuary]

That “update” is about as compelling as Graig’s troll posts

[tawdry valley]

Leave the juicy stuff to Ari and Will.

[keen kiln]

"lmao no we dropped it you guys are fucking annoying"

[weary orbit]

based tc honestly

[pulsar sleet]

Fair

[ripe cliff]

has the novelty worn off already

[stark estuary]

I think Silksong is cancelled

[wanton charm]

Hopefully we will see something cool in the nintendo direct, not silksong obv

[pulsar sleet]

Obv

[tawdry valley]

True, TC has historically been very professional and serious

[ripe cliff]

we have to ration people, this post was supposed to sustain us for months

[weary orbit]

if ss doesn't release, just paste hornet model onto the knight and bam

[weary orbit]

that's what i'm sayin

[wanton charm]

We have 3 months before resorting back to insanity

[fiery burrow]

We actually have a store of food in the back, its called "other games"

[pulsar sleet]

The hey gang spiel lasted 9 months

[weary orbit]

we have to split this message between all of us to last for about a year or two

[pulsar sleet]

Still hard at work is good for a few weeks

[stark estuary]

Wilbo Twitter

[wanton charm]

Ready for round 2?

[weary orbit]

sorry no good games releasing soon besides princess peach showtime

[pulsar sleet]

please no

[stark estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/sword-fighter-peach-stab-princess-peach-showtime-gif-908690942061187710

[ripe cliff]

tried rain world, gave up on spearmaster campaign

[weary orbit]

Real

[stark estuary]

Sword fighter Peach is actually like Hornet Silksong