sk-discussion

[chilly nexus]

@coarse leaf

[fiery burrow]

That weaver is the snitch who ratted out Hornet's location to the citadel

For 20 rosaries

[coarse leaf]

whining about what?

[opaque sigil]

Cmon it was at least 50

[marsh ibex]

Team cherry names the weaver “The Snitch” in spite of the leaker who leaked SS at that xbox event a while back

[opaque sigil]

About the existence of people talking about silksong

[chilly nexus]

There are pictures in it even!

[opaque sigil]

The bit is annoying and just disruptive

[brittle garnet]

anyway why do yall think Hornet was captured

[chilly nexus]

The weaver bit is at the end with my analysis of the poem

[stark estuary]

That doc is frankly not very accurate and I’m not sure why this guy keeps bringing it up

[marsh ibex]

Anyways I gotta go drive see you

[coarse leaf]

ive seen that a little bit but the only time i really see anyone get annoyed is when someone comes in and complains that silksong isnt out yet

[chilly nexus]

PKS it's cuz it's fun

[flat remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/drive-drama-ryan-gosling-gif-3442817

joker irl

[stark estuary]

It’s also spreading misinformation

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/bus-traffic-jam-wrong-way-counterflow-drive-gif-16425938

[random remnant]

drive safe gootbye

[chilly nexus]

the game isn't out yet

[olive bobcat]

Yeah that's fun

[opaque sigil]

It really doesn’t matter just ignore it

Too lazy to read it to debunk stuff anyways

[stark estuary]

It’s been debunked several times already

[brittle garnet]

let's talk about pipes

[chilly nexus]

if ppl want to correct me tbh I'm v down

[opaque sigil]

Which is the sign of something not worth debunking because whoever is saying it doesn’t care

[chilly nexus]

that way I can make it better

just lmk the specific corrections to make

[random remnant]

there's so much hollow knight analysis i still have to read i truly don't know shit

[stark estuary]

Yeah that’s true

[opaque sigil]

Congratulations on not paying attention to people’s messages

[high hedge]

What’s the missing word here

[brittle garnet]

smh nobody wants to talk about pipes

[coarse leaf]

mfw i look at lore that doesnt even exist yet like there are objective truths to it and take all the fun out of theorizing on lore

[quiet knot]

good morning gamers

[olive bobcat]

Too busy with vectors rn

[fiery burrow]

Why are you so aggressive to people who prefer a more grounded approach to the lore of the games

[high hedge]

He’s on the moon

[flat remnant]

did you draw anything last night?

[chilly nexus]

what's funny is we were on topic in spite of my comment earlier, but it's the people continuing to critique that comment that have stayed off topic

[coarse leaf]

im aggressive to people who are dicks to people who just have fun with it

[opaque sigil]

That’s VeKtor

[high hedge]

ITS WITH A K?!

[stark estuary]

It’s disingenuous to pretend like we know literally nothing about the game’s lore/narrative simply because it isn’t out - the everything we know about Silksong doc is over 100 pages long
And “the game isn’t out yet” doesn’t mean you can make whatever baseless claims you want and act like they’re even remotely likely

[cold lark]

mfw when there is still no ss news

[olive bobcat]

No

[high hedge]

Good

[quiet knot]

I didnt because i was asleep

[high hedge]

I can always trust Aluo

[flat remnant]

damnb 😭

[chilly nexus]

normally I ignore this stuff but ily mimi so you get a "so true "

[flat remnant]

ah damn i don't have any dirt

[olive bobcat]

Shipping Vector with himself
Ship name: "Dot Product"

[brittle garnet]

it's not excitement, it's just that over the years statements like "no way silksong in silksong discussion" were used by people who would then proceed to derail the topic

[random remnant]

a quick and easy addition to any crowded background

[hardy maple]

Rate my high school lunch

[olive bobcat]

slobby joe

[flat remnant]

get a new high school 😭

[high hedge]

Just don’t search I Hate Cat

[brittle garnet]

smite this person

[random remnant]

what if there was a silksong burger

[coarse leaf]

but if someone wants to theorize why are you getting angry at them for that? my point isnt that any of it has any basis, my point is that theorizing on lore is half the fun of it for a lot of people

[quiet knot]

I gotta finish one of my traditional drawings first and then i can put more time into learning digital art

[cold lark]

10/10

[hardy maple]

It’s a chicken patty

[random remnant]

there would be slices on the pretzel bun in the shape of weaver eyes perhaps

[fiery burrow]

Your message was not about Kirb's articulation

[brittle garnet]

see the topic is already being derailed

[chilly nexus]

omg yes I see that

the cheese would be super melty/gooey like threads

[random remnant]

yesss

[brittle garnet]

anyway i should talk about how the weavers probably worshipped a plant god and the citadel locked up that god to take advantage of its power but it started rebelling against them so they want to use hornet to replace or further restrain it so they can remain in control

[random remnant]

where are you getting the plant god thing from ? i'm curious

[chilly nexus]

like relating to the white flowers?

[high hedge]

A Planter Power

[olive bobcat]

Idk about probably but cool thought

[brittle garnet]

I'm very lazy right now but basically i think the white flowers are coming from a source at the very top of the citadel, and the Citadel was built around whatever that source is in order to hide it

[cold lark]

source?

[high hedge]

I dunno it’s a cool idea though

[random remnant]

i like the idea of the citadel being built around something

[chilly nexus]

I can definitely see the source of the white flowers being a plot point

[brittle garnet]

yeah so basically https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PuDZwlUvySxSmT177rgdSnTax8cQxiYvFgEbX2aQ-7A/edit# read this document

[chilly nexus]

they're too proliferous to be accidentally there

[fiery burrow]

I hope the Citadel has some foreshadowing/build up to it coming from the environments preceding it, EG the ||Five Pebbles Super Structure|| in Rain World

[stark estuary]

I’m not angry and dk why you’d assume I was
My point was simply that it eventually gets kind of tiresome for Jacoby to constantly post about his doc whenever people in the channel talk about SS even though they’ve consistently ignored every criticism made of it in the past, that’s basically misinformation at that point
I don’t blame you for referring to it as a theory doc as that’s how it’s usually presented, but if you were to actually read it you would realize it doesn’t properly cite any evidence, is poorly formatted, makes several unfounded assumptions and is otherwise incredibly flawed

[coarse leaf]

that was a miswording on my part then, i meant to specifically refer to people who look at lore objectively and criticize people who dont

[high hedge]

“Hey why did you draw so many flowers?”
“Holy shit I didn’t realize I drew more than three, hopefully no one notices.”

[opaque sigil]

We’ve seen the area next to it and it doesn’t seem to

[brittle garnet]

oh Kirb rate my document too

[fiery burrow]

Thats unfortunate

An Unfortunate Development, you could say

[chilly nexus]

omg is kirb here?

[opaque sigil]

Haven’t seen all of it though

[stark estuary]

I’ve not read it, send the link

[brittle garnet]

scroll up a little

i think they're clearly connected

the flowers wouldn't just grow out of nowhere and it's suspicious the all the roots happen to grow around the citadel

[fiery burrow]

I've always imagined the citadel as a yellowish bright building, it being white with lots of flowers and roots would be quite nice

[opaque sigil]

It doesn’t generally have those in it

[chilly nexus]

the gleaming citadel could also be gleaming due to being close to the surface and having natural light in places which would lend to the plants

countering that tho is the fact the flowers are white so don't need light as they don't photosynthesize

[brittle garnet]

i don't think we'll see roots or flowers in the citadel itself since my theory posits that the citadel was built to hide them

[opaque sigil]

No plant in HK has ever needed to photosynthesize

[random remnant]

why would the roots need protecting?

[brittle garnet]

well i think the evidence we have points to it being at the top

[fiery burrow]

Soul-synthesis

[opaque sigil]

Pollination is not photosynthesis

[brittle garnet]

basically i think the Citadel usurped whatever is producing the roots as the main power in Pharloom and is trying to hide it from everyone

[opaque sigil]

And plants in HK pollinating is also probably not true

Definitely not universal

[cold lark]

You have a good point

[olive bobcat]

Man, Rain World sucks but the lore is cool

[random remnant]

rain world mods are awesome

[brittle garnet]

so true aluo

but it doesn't suck that much

[opaque sigil]

Then your response was just irrelevant

[fiery burrow]

Rain World has awesome level design and lore

[opaque sigil]

I didn’t say anything about pollination at that point so no

Plants don’t photosynthesize period. Pollination is unrelated

[brittle garnet]

i think the citadel is shining because it has a lot of lamps around it and it is made of shiny reflective metal

[sonic hamlet]

I am a plant

I photosynthesize

We exist

[fiery burrow]

Not in HK

[brittle garnet]

also i believe that the world of HK has no surface or at least no sun

[olive bobcat]

Why's that

[sonic hamlet]

I like to think the world of hk like an ant colony

[brittle garnet]

that depends if dirtmouth is in a gigantic cavern or on the surface

[stark estuary]

I mean most of the doc is just observations and it doesn’t really seem to arrive at any meaningful conclusions so idk what to say really
I’m sure there’s some significance to the plants but as you rightly said we don’t exactly have enough information to speculate on that front
I will comment on the connection you made to the Pale Beings though:

1. “Root” is not necessarily a classification of HB, it’s only used in-game as a title for WL
2. “One of them” is likely not a reference to “plant-based higher beings” (which is not even a real classification), it’s more likely a reference to higher beings in general as WL is the first one the Godseekers properly observe
3. The Pale Beings (PK and WL) are nowhere near Pharloom and the former is dead so idk how on earth they’d have any relevance (it would also be pretty confusing/alienating for newer players and TC specifically mentioned wanting to make SS a self-contained narrative)
4. They’re white > they might be connected to the Pale Beings is a non-sequitur
5. Most of the speculation section relies on some pretty weak reasoning but you acknowledged that in the doc so there’s probably no need for me to go in depth

[olive bobcat]

Dirtmouth is confirmed to be underground

[opaque sigil]

I said plants don't photosynthesize

idk why you're pretending it was more than that

[brittle garnet]

but the game takes place underground and pharloom is also clearly entirely underground so it makes sense to me that the surface is most likely uninhabitable since why is everything underground otherwise

[cold lark]

I think the flowers are neat

[olive bobcat]

why is everything underground otherwise
They are bugs

[opaque sigil]

photosynthesis was a particularly salient rl plant behavior that isn't exhibited in setting, thus its being mentioned

one function

[stark estuary]

Bro is a professional glazer

[opaque sigil]

that function does not exist in universe

[brittle garnet]

yeah tbh the things i'm most certain about is that i think the lace fight is at the top of the citadel and the pipes have plants inside them

[opaque sigil]

ok you're clearly trolling

[stark estuary]

Reading comprehension devil 😔

Yeah Tammo, Hanlon’s razor

[opaque sigil]

idk if the charitable assumption is that somebody doesn't know how to hold a conversation

[stark estuary]

You forget, this is #sk-discussion

[opaque sigil]

especially when they're being overtly antagonistic

[fiery burrow]

You are on discord no one knows how to hold a convo

[opaque sigil]

that is true

[brittle garnet]

tbh i have no clue if Pale Beings is any sort of classification that includes more than just PK and WL but i think if there were two of them there are probably more

[opaque sigil]

it isn't

it's used as a term for those two specifically

[stark estuary]

It’s also just a descriptor

[chilly nexus]

I have tammo blocked tbh cuz that does happen a lot, to some ppl more than others but it gets tiring sometimes ye

[brittle garnet]

perhaps but didn't TC comment something about that in an ama

[chilly nexus]

I wouldn't stress about it

[stark estuary]

Not to my knowledge

[fiery burrow]

They only mention Pale Beings in their answer about the Pale Ore

[brittle garnet]

like I'm wondering if there's a Pale Wyrm, were there non-Pale wyrms, and were there more than one Pale Wyrm??

[stark estuary]

They mention that pale ore might be related to the pale beings but there’s no reason to assume they aren’t just referring to PK/WL in that context

[opaque sigil]

wyrms varying in appearance is plausible if not probable

[random remnant]

there was something called a blackwyrm but it's only mentioned once and it's unclear if it's a related species iirc

[stark estuary]

PK is specifically referred to as the Pale Wyrm so it stands to reason that there were others that weren’t pale

[fiery burrow]

What did Tammo say about my innocuous comment

[opaque sigil]

just ignore it

[brittle garnet]

i wonder if Pale ore is like, PK's wyrm carapace or something

[opaque sigil]

probably not

wouldn't make sense for it to be in deepnest or hallownest's crown

[flat remnant]

irreverent reply that hints at mental instability

[brittle garnet]

well i assume if the wyrm was tunneling throughout hallownest, then maybe parts of it chipped off and got left behind in other spots

[fiery burrow]

Tammo

[opaque sigil]

if it tunneled through those areas it would've left very visible marks in deepnest and destroyed the moth site

[pulsar silo]

How’s it going guys. I haven’t thought about silksong for like a year so I was wondering how things are looking in here.

[marsh ibex]

it’s a bit weird if you tunneled and a piece of your skin got lodged on a mountaintop

[brittle garnet]

but really i find it weird that pale ore would be related to the specific two pale beings since it seems like it's embedded into the rock itself

[marsh ibex]

Damn you

faster than me

[flat remnant]

roughly the same, the only real substantial news we have is that is called a cogfly

[random remnant]

things are pretty meh it seems

[fiery burrow]

Thats why the moths followed PK, they had no other choice after PK brutally destroyed their sites of worship and slaughtered half their population with sheer size alone

[marsh ibex]

that’s not really substantial

[opaque sigil]

doesn't necessarily mean its origin is connected with them, could be something they used

[spare fractal]

cogfly!

[brittle garnet]

well the rocks it was in could have moved around, and the rad statue probably is made from rock sources elsewhere

[opaque sigil]

true the pk kaiju angle is underappreciated

[pulsar silo]

That’s neat! I am wondering if we’ll see anything on valentine’s since that’s ss’s anniversary but I’m also fine if nothing comes from it.

[fiery burrow]

The game was also delayed

[brittle garnet]

this is fair i suppose

[flat remnant]

i can't come up to a new person empty handed

[marsh ibex]

yes you can

[opaque sigil]

the rad statue would've been destroyed when he barreled through that location, it was there before he arrived

[marsh ibex]

like when I tell people whose family is in the army what happened to their family members

personally I think pale ore is like

[stark estuary]

The “connection” could just be that they’re both pale and vaguely magical
It could also just be something they used
It could also be that their presence in the area caused mundane rocks to develop into pale ore
We don’t have any way to know, but there are any number of explanations that make more sense than it being broken off pieces of PK’s shell

[marsh ibex]

weird dead spots

I associate the cold with death

[wooden schooner]

Fun fact : "empty hand" translates to "karate", this is a reference to the fact you can make people catch these hands

[brittle garnet]

maybe pale ore and pale beings share an origin instead or something

[atomic sparrow]

hello arch imedes

[random remnant]

im going to go make and eat fried rice goodbye chat

[brittle garnet]

hello andy

[opaque sigil]

that is a very heterogenous grouping to the point where that doesn't make a ton of sense

[fiery burrow]

Its just what the Pale Beings used as freezers

[spare fractal]

what hands? my hands? do I just not get the joke?

[stark estuary]

We can reasonably assume PK used Pale Ore at least once

[stark estuary]

(THK’s nail appears to be a Pure Nail)

[brittle garnet]

i don't understand

[pulsar silo]

That seems self evident but it’s still good it was confirmed

[fiery burrow]

PV's spells have PN markings as well right

[opaque sigil]

they're all very different in nature, sharing an origin doesn't make a ton of sense

[opaque sigil]

yes

[wooden schooner]

If you're empty handed, your hands are empty. Punch people as a last resort

[pulsar silo]

I always assumed pale ore just pops up in locations that are under the influence of a pale being

[opaque sigil]

it often does so in areas that aren't

[spare fractal]

the relation pale ore has to the pale king and other higher beings is that you can find a pale ore on hallownest's crown. who wears a crown? the king! who's the king of hallownest? the pale king! it's simple!

[flat remnant]

poor grubfather

[pulsar silo]

Like their very presence changes the makeup of the environment to the point that some parts become soaked in their energy to become something new

[wooden schooner]

I theorized it's just a bone or some sort of hard part fallen from the corpse of a pale being, like the dried skin keeps snowing after countless times

[spare fractal]

maybe grubfather is posessed by the pale king's ghost, and never wanted to eat his own children

[brittle garnet]

i always found it sorta suspicious that all naturally occuring pale ore is located in those broken egg looking fossils

[opaque sigil]

that's inconsistend with its being in the crown or in deepnest

[pulsar silo]

Pale ore being like fossilized bone is a cool idea

[brittle garnet]

tbh you never know what beings died there however many millenia ago, and like all of the rocks are fossils of some kind

[opaque sigil]

it wasn't pk or wl

[fiery burrow]

There's no reason to associate the pale ore with soul and they don't really demonstrate any spells or anything

[pulsar silo]

But like there’s also those delicate flowers, which don’t seem to be the remains of a pale being. Unless they grow from the nutrients of a dead pale being in the soil or smth

[wooden schooner]

got a lot of plotholes I know, it's just that it's pale and super resistant. If dried skin from the Wyrm is a snow storm, I can only think of its bones as hard as metal

[opaque sigil]

if the ore is fossilized something it's not fossilized pk or wl

[flat remnant]

the nail being imbued with the knight's father's soul would be a really hard idea if it were real ngl

[opaque sigil]

the issue isn't with the material necessarily it's with there being no way for it to have gotten there from pk's body

[brittle garnet]

yeah but if Pale Ore is connected to both of them, then that means they must have some connection to each other as well beside just their color, which means that the term Pale Beings might refer to more than just the 2 of them

[fiery burrow]

Fragments of other kingsouls

[wooden schooner]

oh I'm not talking about pk specifically, maybe other higher beings died/reformed there (really vague sorry)

[spare fractal]

simple, it's a vessel's body. because the pale king reincarnated in a vessel. it's that obvious.

[opaque sigil]

it would only need to be connected to one of them to be connected functionally to both, hell it could even just be what the palace is made of

[silver laurel]

I thought it was kind of a given that there are more white people

[fiery burrow]

I've seen it proposed that King's Idols are made out of Pale Ore

[opaque sigil]

they're all personalized

[silver laurel]

Wyrms are a whole species right not just one guy

[fiery burrow]

And all made out of a mysterious white material

[silver laurel]

No

[brittle garnet]

i don't think that's a boss

[spare fractal]

ok, yes, this was a joke on matpat's video. (I'm gonna miss him so much)

[silver laurel]

I'm excited for the big ass 4 armed robot

[pulsar silo]

Maybe pale beings were far more common in a the far distant past and their energy remains in the planet beyond their deaths through influences in the earth and lifeforms

[silver laurel]

the fight is probably gonna be bitch easy but I think it will still be good

[pulsar silo]

Absolute speculation on my part but it sounds cool

[fiery burrow]

Sherma is piloting it

[spare fractal]

Every copy of Hollow Knight is personalized.

[spare fractal]

why would sherma want to kill us?

[fiery burrow]

Citadel

[brittle garnet]

this is headcanon but i think that if every living thing contains Soul, and a huge amount of the world seems to be made from the fossils of dead things, all that Soul accumulating over the ages has to have some effect

[opaque sigil]

he's the rightful ruler of the weavers, wants to reclaim his place

[stark estuary]

What other HBs, TC said Pale Ore was connected to PK/WL they didn’t say it had some vague connection to HBs in general
Also ngl this is kind of a whack claim, you assume there was some other HBs in Hallownest that have never been mentioned to exist anywhere, and that they only thing they left behind were some weird rocks?

[opaque sigil]

hbs having died there in the distant past isn't impossible or out of place conceptually

[brittle garnet]

well, the world is probably very old, it makes sense that many HBs sprung up and died over time

[fiery burrow]

higher beings leave a huge impact

[stark estuary]

Yes but there’s no mention of HBs having died in that area nor is there any evidence of them having existed there

[stark estuary]

I never said it was

[opaque sigil]

and enough time would probably erode that away more or less entirely

[brittle garnet]

if that was long enough for remains to fossilize, would you expect there to be any mention?

i don't think so

[spare fractal]

no way sherma betrays us

[opaque sigil]

you'd have to be a fool to just trust him blindly

[pulsar silo]

If there were higher/pale beings residing in the land the game takes place in, I’d imagine it was a time before the ancient civilization in the abyss

[stark estuary]

So a number of different HBs died and had their remains fossilize all over the map, resulting in the exact same substance

[fiery burrow]

Sherma is manipulated

[marsh ibex]

he’s cute and cuddly

[brittle garnet]

i dunno

maybe? Rocks move around, too

[warped nacelle]

Shermanipulated???

[opaque sigil]

this would be cool but doesn't really have anythign to do with the ama answer anyways

[spare fractal]

you'd have to be insane if you think sherma's evil

[stark estuary]

Well yes I mentioned that already

[opaque sigil]

and like if they were fossilized dead gods you'd think tc would make the pickup spots big cool dead things

[brittle garnet]

my personal headcanon is that Soul crystalizes into pale ore if concentrated enough over a long span of time

[pulsar silo]

At this point we’re just bouncing off ideas that sound cool it isn’t about being super accurate or plausible to the game’s actual intentions

[fiery burrow]

Maybe

[marsh ibex]

omg why does no one talk about how pure vessel/thk’s nail is a reflection of themselves

[brittle garnet]

and my other headcanon is that HBs contain a very large amount of soul compared to other beings so their death sites are more likely to create pale ore

[spare fractal]

I thought it was a pure nail. I need to see this.

[fiery burrow]

Quick Focus goes crazy with how much geo Pale Ore has got to sell for

[brittle garnet]

i don't think Soul is an entirely corporeal substance

[opaque sigil]

it's broken in etv

[marsh ibex]

It totally is the pure nail is cracked and all showing that purity isn’t all that its cracked up to be

[brittle garnet]

it can seemingly permeate solid objects

[marsh ibex]

get it

[spare fractal]

what is an etv?!

[opaque sigil]

the shitty ending

[fiery burrow]

I mean then PK's death would leave a lot of Pale Ore in his throneroom

[marsh ibex]

all that it’s cracked up to be

[brittle garnet]

not enough time and it's dream realm

[pulsar silo]

Hehe.. “cracked” up to be..

[opaque sigil]

and maybe a bunch in ke too from wyrm body decaying

[pulsar silo]

Dammit

[spare fractal]

oh... embrace the void... but that's the cooler one!

[stark estuary]

I mean probably, even the Snail Shamans’ bodies contain way more Soul than regular bugs considering that one Snail Shaman was drained for ~4 canisters worth whereas the entire corpse pit couldn’t even fill one

[marsh ibex]

You will be spared

[pulsar silo]

I took too long to find the emote

[fiery burrow]

PK's been dead for very long nor would the dream realm remove his soul

[pulsar silo]

Thanks

[brittle garnet]

when i say long i mean, millions of years

[stark estuary]

The bit about Pale Ore being crystallized Soul seems pretty unlikely given the AMA answer tho

[brittle garnet]

the amount of time irl minerals form over

pale ore being ice cold is very weird and interesting

[fiery burrow]

I doubt that going by the Radiance statue

[brittle garnet]

i don't get it

[stark estuary]

Soul being able to crystallize is baseless and doesn’t really make a ton of sense

In its natural state soul is gaseous, it would likely just disperse through the air

[brittle garnet]

it's more like, maybe material infused with soul forms into pale ore

[frigid karma]

Wait so soul like fossilizes into pale ore?

[opaque sigil]

and if it did happen there would be ore by pk's corpse since his soul is all gone and he had an awful lot

[stark estuary]

No

It’s not a liquid in its natural state

[brittle garnet]

when i said crystallize i didn't mean like that, again i imagine it more like how crystals and minerals form irl

[stark estuary]

We only see Soul appear as a liquid when it’s being manipulated

[opaque sigil]

it's not even physical matter

[stark estuary]

I mean yeah

[fiery burrow]

When do we see the mysterious soul realm

Team Cherry wai?!

[spare fractal]

why is embrace the void "the shitty ending"?

[opaque sigil]

something something space between body and soul or whatever that moth said

[stark estuary]

The realm between body and soul 🤫

[opaque sigil]

because it's a really bad ending to the story

[stark estuary]

Oh come on

[spare fractal]

it's awesome!

[stark estuary]

EtV sucks ass don’t get me started

[brittle garnet]

basically if the bodies of bugs after death can contain soul, and soul can permeate solid material, then when over millions of years the bodies of beings decompose and disperse into the environment, how does the presence of soul let's say in the rock/soil affect things?

[opaque sigil]

tk ignores its entire story to go do a side hustle and then just stumbles into killing rad anyways without needing to actually kill the dreamers or face thk in the black egg

[stark estuary]

It’s fine if it’s your favorite but it is like objectively not a good ending to the story

[wooden schooner]

maybe pale ore is crystallized soul

[coarse leaf]

it has its appeals, its got some good cool factor

[stark estuary]

Not really no

[fiery burrow]

Embrace the Void is a reskinned dream no more locked behind the worst challenge in the game with the worst presentation making people think that the void goes all evil or even worse that there's just a random big scary dude chilling in the void, and then has the gall to leave it on a stupid cliffhanger while simultaneously ruining all impact DNM has by making THK alive.

[coarse leaf]

your opinion 🤷‍♀️

[stark estuary]

The “appeal” is a useless red herring and a weird cliffhanger that will never get any follow-up

[fiery burrow]

ETV has nice art and music, albeit its very out of place within the context of the ending

[brittle garnet]

i once had a funny theory that void is basically like oil irl, except that the biological matter also had soul in it and the vast quantity of soul in the environment over time concentrated and congealed into this weird semi-alive substance. Nothing at all supports this but i find it fun

[opaque sigil]

the appeal is learning that thk also got a pure nail which is kind of fun

[stark estuary]

Not only does nothing support it I’d argue a fair bit contradicts that theory as well

[brittle garnet]

i can't think of anything like that

[stark estuary]

Have you looked at Void

[brittle garnet]

elaborate

[coarse leaf]

i think they’re implying with the “i ONCE had a theory” part that its not a theory they really support, they just thought it was a neat idea

[warm bison]

lol no one can trust if that's true or not

[spare fractal]

Sealed Siblings is a worse the hollow knight that
-Locks you out of an achievement, requiring you to replay the game if you didn't get the hollow knight first
-Concludes the plot of Hollow Knight in a boring way
-Is one of two ending options after beating THK. And why wouldn't you go for dream no more, with the awesome true final boss?
-Turns Hornet into a dreamer for no reason at all other than saying "hey look, she's a dreamer now!"

[opaque sigil]

sealed siblings' existence is thematically necessary because it establishes tk's agency

[stark estuary]

Sealed Siblings isn’t as bad as EtV because unlike EtV it was never meant to be a true ending

[fiery burrow]

Sealed Sibling is also just necessary from a gameplay standpoint

Like whats gonna play if you don't decide to fight Radiance

[stark estuary]

It’s not supposed to be a satisfying conclusion to the narrative

[marsh ibex]

hornet turning into a dreamer makes more sense than godly resonance 💀

[carmine island]

Sealed sibling

[stark estuary]

EtV is on the other hand is presented as an actual alternative to DNM

[carmine island]

More like

Trapped

[spare fractal]

it literally only exists for achievement hunting, that's all

[fiery burrow]

That does not address my point

[stark estuary]

Also Sealed Siblings still concludes the story in a much better way than EtV

[spare fractal]

ETV actually gives you a fun challenge that, while hard as balls, is engaging and fun to play.

[fiery burrow]

Its got like the cool PK + THK theme thing going on as well

[marsh ibex]

what do you mean by that

[warm bison]

all it does is confirm that the knight and hornet are siblings even though we already knew that before you even get the ending

[stark estuary]

But that theme doesn’t play to completion like it does in DNM, which is a neat bit of musical storytelling

[marsh ibex]

?

[fiery burrow]

Chris cooked

[marsh ibex]

most endings don’t confirm much of anything

[stark estuary]

You know DNM is the only time we actually hear the ending of the Sealed Vessel theme

[marsh ibex]

they like, end the game and try to reach a conclusion or raise more questions than answers

[opaque sigil]

why does nobody mention that Larkin is basically the perfect name for a composer given that larks are birds with remarkably notable songs

[warm bison]

dream no more I believe is the true ending

[stark estuary]

Wrong ending

[fiery burrow]

TRUE

[sick elm]

Developer comment: All endings are canon

According to Team Cherry, all endings are equally canon.

Source

@kingoclowns used /dev-comments source: Reddit name: All endings are canon

[fiery burrow]

I appreciate the use of silence in some sections of the game as well, like the throne room

[marsh ibex]

“We don’t believe in true endings”

[fiery burrow]

It feels much more heavy than if the White Palace theme was just normally playing

[opaque sigil]

dnm is the true ending in the mechanical (and thematic) sense but it gets no canonical special treatment

[fiery burrow]

Same goes for the rest of Basin and the Abyss

[hardy maple]

Anyone else agree that people who eat gluten are fake?

[marsh ibex]

I’d be pretty miffed if the same theme played at the end of a platforming gauntlet

[stark estuary]

Until you sit on the throne

The PK and HK themes are stripped down to their barest melodies and played simultaneously, once and never again

[spare fractal]

it only exists to get its associated achievement, and give you a slightly different ending purely to address hornet being there

[fiery burrow]

Yes and its absolutely brilliant

[hardy maple]

U play persona?

[marsh ibex]

Why do you ask me the same question every time you see me in chat

[fiery burrow]

I won't lie I bawl like a baby in the throne room and the rest of the White Palace

[opaque sigil]

ew

[hardy maple]

Oh nvm ur him

[warm bison]

I think it might if hollow knight silksong is a sequel

[marsh ibex]

bro you’re soft

[fiery burrow]

There is nothing wrong with that

[marsh ibex]

okay since you didn’t read the bot message

[opaque sigil]

there's no reason for them to do that

[hardy maple]

How so?

[stark estuary]

In that short sequence, which is the closest TK ever came to interacting with its father, you get the impression that they reach an understanding - literal ages of regret being laid finally to rest

[opaque sigil]

the bot message misses a major part of it

[marsh ibex]

I know

I meant the source

Fuck off tammo

I’m mod abusing

[warm bison]

wdym

[hardy maple]

There’s multiple endings?

[opaque sigil]

and I'm about to abuse this mod

[fiery burrow]

Yeah, especially after witnessing the abyss

[stark estuary]

Poor PK 😭

[warm bison]

oh c'mon its team cherry they say all sorts of things

[hardy maple]

He never declined climate change?

[marsh ibex]

ok

[opaque sigil]

posting a video of a literal human trafficker is a questionable move

[olive bobcat]

@silver oak

[marsh ibex]

I dunno why you’d ignore a comment straight from the horse’s mouth

[warm bison]

that was before silksong was even a concept

[fiery burrow]

All while doing the sickest platforming in the game

[opaque sigil]

it wasn't

it was like 2018 ss was a concept by then

[marsh ibex]

They knew silksong was gonna be a game before they finished HK
Hornet DLC was a kickstarted thing by that point

[atomic sparrow]

yo psst... @olive bobcat ... #art-discussion message awesome art here...

[marsh ibex]

leth said as much

[warm bison]

yeah dlc

[olive bobcat]

Peakoraga tbh...

[marsh ibex]

Did you read the first sentence

[hardy maple]

Trump denies climate change?

[quartz cave]

Is it?

I disacree with the last bit ngl

[fiery burrow]

Trump denies a lot of true stuff

[quartz cave]

Yes

[olive bobcat]

Yeah

[opaque sigil]

raging narcissists are known for that sort of thing

[warm bison]

leave polotics out of this guys

[opaque sigil]

remember that time he lied about a storm's path and sharpied it onto a map that was funny

[fiery burrow]

Its not political to know that trump is an absolute idiot when it comes to climate change

[olive bobcat]

I disagree with that last bit tbh

[marsh ibex]

?tag info jokerpsa

fuck

Wrong one

?tag info offtopic

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[opaque sigil]

this shit was absolutely hilarious

[hardy maple]

Andrew tate didn’t really deny climate change he just roasted the hell out of Greta thunderburg

[olive bobcat]

What

[marsh ibex]

it’s fine

topics come and go

way of the channel

[warm bison]

you mean the poles changing?

[olive bobcat]

New member, banned

[marsh ibex]

nah it’s cool

[stark estuary]

This isn’t even worth entertaining with a response

[marsh ibex]

I just don’t like it when it happens mid convo but it happens

[opaque sigil]

he literally trafficks women climate denial is far from the worst shit he does

[hardy maple]

He asked something

So I answered

[hardy maple]

Is it proven though he would still be in jail if it’s true

[opaque sigil]

[charred surge]

Hello chat- oh good heavens what is going on here

[marsh ibex]

uh

[quiet knot]

Politics 🤢

[hardy maple]

Wat

[marsh ibex]

you have a very idealistic view of the justice system

[shell yacht]

[warm bison]

political hell

[marsh ibex]

and on how other countries deal with that stuff

[stark estuary]

Why are you backpedaling it’s true that he trafficked women

[shell yacht]

can we go back to 24/7 monster hunter talk

[warm bison]

stereotyping lol

[hardy maple]

Not really?

[fiery burrow]

Oh my god

[marsh ibex]

oh you’re deep in the trenches

I sense this convo going nowhere

[fiery burrow]

2 in one day

[hardy maple]

Is it bad that I’m supporting Andrew tate?

[shell yacht]

they come in 3s

[opaque sigil]

yes

very bad

[stark estuary]

Yeah but the thing you drew attention to instead isn’t as bad as the thing that was already being discussed

[warm bison]

I mean only if you stereotype all lefts as one and all rights as another

[hardy maple]

But Andrew Tate has very good views on life

[nova fable]

yes

[marsh ibex]

no he doesn’t

[opaque sigil]

he really doesn't

[marsh ibex]

he has backwards views on women and relationships and that bleeds into how he advises men to live their life

[opaque sigil]

if you think andrew tate has good opinions you desparately need a therapist and an internet break for at least a month

[hardy maple]

Bro what his opinions and motivational speeches are great

[warm bison]

where do you cross the line on any of it

[fiery burrow]

Conservatism inherently encourages sexist and religious mentality

[marsh ibex]

this of course is going to fall on deaf ears and I suggest a switch in topics

[warm bison]

thank you!

[hardy maple]

I mean he’s rich he must have something wise to share

[stark estuary]

I will mention though that we appear to be seeing a case of this right at this very moment

[fiery burrow]

Puts down popcorn

[opaque sigil]

that is so incredibly false

[serene chasm]

rich =/= wise

[opaque sigil]

is defending a sex trafficker not against server policy it seems like it should be

[warm bison]

unless it was inheritance

[hardy maple]

I mean jeff bezos was rich he had a very good speech on life and death and stuff

[marsh ibex]

he’s getting there

[stark estuary]

What? It’s not true regardless

[marsh ibex]

although he has yet to say anything too bad

[cunning geode]

=/= means “not equal to”

[fiery burrow]

Give it like 5 minutes

[opaque sigil]

druid starting wealth moment

[hardy maple]

Bro I’m not even defending him it’s just not proven he’s a sex trafficker so I don’t refer to him as such

[warm bison]

if you went from the ground up then they deserve it

[quiet knot]

I'd rather listen to advice from my Dad because he knows me better than some rich old white American.

[warm bison]

oops oh well

[stark estuary]

Not necessarily? That’s a gross oversimplification

[opaque sigil]

you said verbatim that you supported him

[serene chasm]

I also listen to your dad. Hes got some good takes

[quiet knot]

Thanks

[marsh ibex]

curly please stop coming into my house and speaking to my parents

[warm bison]

im not saying they shouldn't donate because they should

[hardy maple]

Yeah you’re changing the topic because you don’t really have any proof man, I ain’t trying to defend bro but people should be innocent till proven guilty?

[serene chasm]

Why not? Theyre very nice

[marsh ibex]

💀

[stark estuary]

What do they need the money for anyway

[formal marsh]

i have one question: how old are you

[spare fractal]

in conclusion, ending ranking list for me is:
-1: Embrace the Void. An amazing reward for completing the hardest challenge of the game, and makes you feel like an absolute badass.
-2: Dream No More. Even though I like Embrace the Void more, this one is also amazing, and the best conclusion to the Hollow Knight story.
-3: The Hollow Knight. Does a good job at making you think, "That was cool, but maybe there could be a better conclusion to it all."
-4: Embrace the stupid flower: Embrace the Void, but halfway through the flower isekais you.
-5: Sealed Siblings: Already ranted on this one for too long.

[opaque sigil]

spell components

[stark estuary]

Well that’s not a weird thing to ask at all

[quiet knot]

Wtf get out of here the chat is talking about bad topics

[hardy maple]

What is this?

[marsh ibex]

mid?

[fiery burrow]

A mid take

[cunning geode]

he was indicted

[formal marsh]

they sound so immature they might as well be 14

[quiet knot]

Hollow Knight endings

[olive bobcat]

mid top ending tbh

[nova fable]

look up like one video that actually criticises him instead of being stuck in your bubble

[hardy maple]

Bro I haven’t finished the game yet he just spoiled every ending for me

[cunning geode]

boo hoo

[runic adder]

Elon Musk is the richest man alive so clearly all the shit he's doing with Twitter is genius and unable to be criticized

[opaque sigil]

every incel/andrew tate fan sounds like that

[quiet knot]

Well you shouldve sticked to off-topic then

[warm bison]

nice

[formal marsh]

every incel/andrew tate fan is 14

[stark estuary]

idk why you’d assume that and their age is irrelevant to the arguments they’re making
Also uh, maybe don’t ask random people to share personal information publicly online, especially if your reasoning for doing so is that they might be a minor

[opaque sigil]

some of them stay that way for years 😔

[formal marsh]

?????

[olive bobcat]

Solution: ban all minors

[marsh ibex]

just don’t ask people their age in the future since it doesn’t matter all that much

[frigid karma]

Can we still call tate fans stupid tho

[opaque sigil]

yes

[marsh ibex]

unless they admit to being 11 at rhat point report and call mods maybe

[hardy maple]

Bruh so should I stop talking bout Andrew tate

[opaque sigil]

yes

[hardy maple]

Or can I continue

[frigid karma]

Ye

[formal marsh]

a mod told you to, so maybe??

[marsh ibex]

Yeah, like I said before

[stark estuary]

Stating the obvious is not against server rules so yes

[thin inlet]

Anybody seen this on Reddit ?? Might be fake be seems interesting

[serene chasm]

Talk abot ke instead. Im a good influence

[spare fractal]

eh yeah, I really like embrace the void as a reward for beating p5 and for the spectacle rather than how it concludes the story of the game.

[formal marsh]

i havent seen that before

[opaque sigil]

it's fake

[stark estuary]

Kingdom’s Edge is a pretty cool area yeah

[fiery burrow]

Its fake but a good edit

[marsh ibex]

It’s probably reverse mapped

[olive bobcat]

Real

[marsh ibex]

Fake

[stark estuary]

It might be my favorite area tbh

[frigid karma]

The realest

[shell yacht]

reddit: fake

[stark estuary]

The Wyrm corpse adds a lot

[olive bobcat]

Not a horrible looking map tho

[nova fable]

100% real

[fiery burrow]

Kingdom's Edge would be better if it was actual snow

[stark estuary]

I think it not being actual snow is cooler in a way

[shell yacht]

skin flakes, yummy

[stark estuary]

Subverting expectations

[serene chasm]

You can tell its fake from the awful colors

[opaque sigil]

ice mechanics bad

[fiery burrow]

OK but PK is vaguely related to cold

[shell yacht]

kings dandruff, part of this complete breakfast

[frigid karma]

Snow is boring, the molt of a rotting dead god is badass

[marsh ibex]

He is related to wind

[stark estuary]

I mean it is a very weak connection but it’s technically true

[formal marsh]

pharloom map green and red, hornet be calling it a christmas tree 💯

[spare fractal]

alright enough ranting on sealed siblings, what are we talking about now?

[olive bobcat]

I will say the map is a little too detailed for an imitation of HK's style

[warm bison]

ENOUGH WITH BRINGING UP POLITICS, all that will happen is you tell someone something someone else disagrees and we're back to square 1

[fiery burrow]

STOP. POSTING. ABOUT. POLITICS. IM TIRED OF SEEING IT

[opaque sigil]

they could conceivably change it up if shakra and hornet just draw differently

[marsh ibex]

I suppose

[formal marsh]

hornet the type of bug to scribble on her map

[marsh ibex]

I wonder if they’ll have a “fill out your map for x amount of rosaries” in silksong

probably not

[sage void]

hiiii can someone tell joker itd be really nice if he unblocked me

[frigid karma]

Oh god no that sounds horrible

[olive bobcat]

True

[sage void]

[olive bobcat]

Gonna make a new map fake but it's all thin lines and italicized writing

[fiery burrow]

Just shut out all foreign ideas and stay in an isolated political echochamber

[opaque sigil]

it's just some extra cash there wouldn't necessarily be a real pressure to have to do it

[spare fractal]

@marsh ibex agent told me it would be really nice if you unblocked her

[warm bison]

politics just puts a bad taste in everyones mouths

[frigid karma]

Honestly the option to customize your map and add like sketches in Silkstone would be neat ig

[sage void]

lets gooo 🥹

[marsh ibex]

That’s good for agent

[sage void]

pleaseeeeeee

[fiery burrow]

Agent what did you do for Jojoker to block you

[shell yacht]

cope with your block

[sage void]

joker got mad that i wanted him to hop on....,,

[marsh ibex]

asked me to play lethal company and terraria calamity

[opaque sigil]

the new prince of persia game had a cool feature where you could put screenshots of a room on your map so you can look back when you get a new ability and see what locks there are which is neat qol but probably won't fit ss very well

[fiery burrow]

Oh

[stark estuary]

I think the realization that the falling ash is moult is one of the coolest moments in the entire game tbh. On the one hand it’s pretty damn awe-inspiring (albeit maybe a little gross), but on the other it’s also… serene. Sad.

[fiery burrow]

Yeah calamity sucks imo iirc

[sage void]

yeah and that wouldve been COOL

[opaque sigil]

ohrm ohrm ohrm

[sage void]

One blocked message <click to reveal>

[frigid karma]

Maps are a core part of the game imo and having to pay for this very important part wouldn't really add tk anything

[olive bobcat]

We need more Roblox players in chat

[opaque sigil]

I think it was proposed as a reward

[warm bison]

not really because every one is so close minded including you and me that no one can help anyone except themselves

[sage void]

i sometimes play roblox

[spare fractal]

you can't just say "if I recall correctly" after "In my opinion"

[fiery burrow]

Oh thats where I got the phrase serene sadness from

[sage void]

not much, though

[frigid karma]

Hard agree

[fiery burrow]

so true imo iirc

[olive bobcat]

Alula hop on Witching Hour 👉👈

[sage void]

imo iirc tbh

[sage void]

whats that.,..,

[warm bison]

lol

[olive bobcat]

You know plate survival games

[sage void]

yeah

[olive bobcat]

It's one of those

[sage void]

aluo can we play 2 player wizard tycoon pleaseeee

[olive bobcat]

What's fun about it to me is that you can earn in-game currency and use it to "voodoo" people, giving random effects

[marsh ibex]

It’s just ease of access
Maybe after postgame and not totally showing hidden areas (dotted line there maybe)

[sage void]

or Cruise Ship tycoon

[spare fractal]

agent hop on sonic r-echarged

[sage void]

do you remember that one it got deleted

[spare fractal]

it's like sonic r, but cooler

[sage void]

it was super fun tho

[olive bobcat]

There's also a karma system that just indicates what kind of player you are

[sage void]

huh

[fiery burrow]

RW ⁉️

[olive bobcat]

Every good deed is +1 karma, every bad deed is -1 karma

I have around -4.5k karma

[sage void]

aluo did you play cruise ship tycoon

[olive bobcat]

Probably

Is that the one where you build a cruise ship

[sage void]

what about 2 player wizard tycoon

[warm bison]

there's the word "debate"

[sage void]

yes in the back of your factory

[olive bobcat]

I remember running low on money and taking out everything but the frame and a room

[sage void]

so true.,.,.

[spare fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/tails-doll-meme-this-gif-is-mad-old-dance-fast-dance-gif-14402825356517040459

[sage void]

ok aluo whats your username

mine is uh
batmansuperbaby

[olive bobcat]

Flexible_Pony

[sage void]

ok friend me.,.,

[spare fractal]

you're batman's baby?!

[olive bobcat]

I think my skin rn is Nico Robin during Dressrosa

[spare fractal]

goodbye!

[frigid karma]

Did both of you make your names when you were 12 or something

[olive bobcat]

Nvm it's Peter Griffin

[sage void]

no im batmansuperbaby, its different

[stark estuary]

The Wyrm corpse is quite a poignant spectacle, but it’s also bittersweet in a sense. It represents both how the death of one being can result in the life of another (in this case rather literally), but it’s also a fading remnant of perhaps a larger world - one where it was not uncommon for such vast beings to be seen roaming the land. The Wyrm, like Hallownest, was not immune to time, even with all its power. And soon, it will be completely gone, with nothing to remember it

[olive bobcat]

Yeah basically, it's kinda awesome

[sage void]

ok go to lore bestie

[spare fractal]

YOU'RE BATMAN'S SUPER BABY?!?!?!?

[full ledge]

Ew

[sage void]

no im batmansuperbaby, its different

[spare fractal]

YOU'RE BATMAN SUPERBABY?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!

[frigid karma]

So batman and super's baby

[sage void]

no im batmansuperbaby, its different bestie

[olive bobcat]

I should make a Koala skin

[spare fractal]

YOU'RE BATMANSUPERBABY?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!??!

[sage void]

aluo my 10 y/o brother watches op is that good

hes at like post timeskip rn

[olive bobcat]

Not good anymore

[sage void]

what happened

[stark estuary]

I’m not allowed to shitpost there

[olive bobcat]

Your brother is going to get unrealistic expectations of the female body

[sage void]

OH YEAH

no he already has that dw

[fiery burrow]

Didn't you get away with saying Hornet is Void in lore

[sage void]

poor netflix fans going from marineford to post timeskip </3

[warm bison]

I'm done. everyone's done. I said what I said. it made sense because everyones got different opinions and the world is so vile. no one wants to know about sex trafficking. The only one that can help the people is the police and the government. case closed

[full rune]

you dont need to "get away" with it, it's flat out truth

[opaque sigil]

not like op is the only thing doing that

[sage void]

true

[marsh ibex]

shut up you fucking fraud

[stark estuary]

You can get away with most things in lore if you phrase it right

[sage void]

ok @olive bobcat im hopping on bestie

[stark estuary]

It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it

[sage void]

i have to move the cat

[spare fractal]

wait, she isn't?

[marsh ibex]

You’ll never get someone to love you like he did

never again

[olive bobcat]

I'm in an online class rn but later

[sage void]

oh ok

[fiery burrow]

Not after the incident

[spare fractal]

cool celeste emoji!

[olive bobcat]

Nah that's the normal progression, it's just how far in they went after Marineford

[warm bison]

she even says she isn't

[sage void]

wait guh what

[spare fractal]

the incident? what incident?

[sage void]

i did NOT know that

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[sage void]

is that how timeskip works lol

[opaque sigil]

bobbi bill cleansed her of the void

[warm bison]

that's why she can talk and why she can't be The Hollow Knight

[fiery burrow]

Me when I lie

[sage void]

i mean ig thats how aot did theirs

[fiery burrow]

Void creatures are capable of talking

[spare fractal]

man, I can't wait to see bobbi bill's return in silksong!

[sage void]

i still need to finish s4.,.,.,,

[warm bison]

which ones

[fiery burrow]

Collector makes plenty of noise

As does VGFocus

[warm bison]

true nvm

[olive bobcat]

I think there's like 3 episodes between but basically

[sage void]

ah i see alr

aluo do you watch aot

[olive bobcat]

Nah

[sage void]

i got to the part where ||sasha died and the kids kill a guy and run off to a farm|| and i stopped aot s4 spoilers btw

[spare fractal]

Ima hop on roblox to play Sonic R now

[sage void]

ok im gonna go start watching again

[stark estuary]

The “ugliness” of the sickly, sharp, bright orange infection is contrasted against the divine “beauty” of the Radiance. If Radiance is Nature, then the infection is Nature when it is twisted and repressed. The aesthetic mismatch is likely intentional: “how could something so holy create something so vile”.

[spare fractal]

see ya when it gets taken down, and I can't play obscure sega saturn game anymore

[marsh ibex]

I hate you

[fiery burrow]

Moss Prophet

[warm bison]

but to be fair, the mid-wife said she helped deliver hornet

[versed pollen]

Sounds like some shit my high school english teacher would tell me

[fiery burrow]

She doesn't

[crisp drift]

Maybe he is an English teacher.

[versed pollen]

That would really suck

[fallen blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-26450094

[sage void]

@olive bobcat pleaseee hop on AoT the intros are so good

[indigo steppe]

That “guy” was Captain Lobov, who could’ve ended the Rumbling with a thought /s

[olive bobcat]

The curtains are blue

[sage void]

wait actually 😭

[obsidian juniper]

im studying to become an english teacher when do i get this power?

[sage void]

oh wait nvm

[versed pollen]

When you get your degree ig

[crisp drift]

When you succumb into the books.

[quiet knot]

Whats up gamers

[indigo steppe]

the sky

[fiery burrow]

Why would you resign yourself to so awful a fate

[marsh ibex]

ok roger

[indigo steppe]

[warm bison]

I thought it was her unless someone else does, I'm working on becoming a theorist on hollow knight so idk it might've been someone else, but point being the mid-wife obviously helped deliver hornet. she's literally The "mid-wife"

[marsh ibex]

or luffy

[obsidian juniper]

fair enought
im starting reading so maybe it kicks on soon

[fiery burrow]

Idk why you would assume she's the midwife for Hornet

[fallen blaze]

I'm a hornet becau

[fiery burrow]

Also spiders don't give live birth

At best she took care of the spider eggs

[crisp drift]

Well did we ever see spider eggs?

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-jaya-one-piece-monkey-d-luffy-the-sky-gif-22042622

[fiery burrow]

yes

[crisp drift]

In the game, I mean.

[stark estuary]

Why is her name Midwife anyway

[marsh ibex]

Also kirb I still hate you for that paragraph in lore

[obsidian juniper]

the description they gave sounds cool to me tbh

[thorn fractal]

midwife means uhh

[fiery burrow]

She's mid and a wife

[marsh ibex]

Spawning that annoying ass drama for no reason smh

[marsh ibex]

yours?

[thorn fractal]

one second lemme pull it up

[fiery burrow]

I don't have a wife

[fallen blaze]

Shut up blue lake

[opaque sigil]

reasonable way to translate a rl concept to a hk concept if she just watches over the eggs

[fiery burrow]

That'd be weird

[marsh ibex]

Yeah you do

[warm bison]

neither does a worm die and then come back to life then have redacted with a being who becomes a tree 1,000 times or more

[marsh ibex]

You told me at the bar

[obsidian juniper]

its the person that aids in birthing a person,wasnt it ?

[thorn fractal]

okay 😔

[thorn fractal]

yes

[crisp drift]

PK didn't really. Die then came back.

[fiery burrow]

No literally in game spiders don't give live birth

[frigid karma]

Oh my god I hate this sentence with all my heart and soul

[fallen blaze]

[marsh ibex]

most creatures lay eggs in HK

[stark estuary]

It was the most coherent thing posted in that channel all week smh

[fallen blaze]

What does the curtains r blue mean

[fiery burrow]

What paragraph

[versed pollen]

This is actually because nothing in #hk-lore is coherent Imo

[fiery burrow]

Flood chat with it

Ignore Joker typing in chat

[marsh ibex]

It means people love killing any and all deeper discussion on literature because of shitty teachers

[stark estuary]

I already did you just won’t get the context

[frigid karma]

Basically don't think about plot or analyse anything the author is stupid and metaphors do not exist

[fallen blaze]

True

[obsidian juniper]

like the infection image contrast
i never thought of it but it sounds really cool to me

[marsh ibex]

I LOATHE YOU

[warm bison]

k, so?

[stark estuary]

There is another…

Would really be a shame if a mod deleted that huh

[fallen blaze]

[frigid karma]

The curtains are blue is an insult to authors and i stand by that till the day I die

[versed pollen]

The curtains are blue

[fallen blaze]

Why is it called the curtains r blue

[marsh ibex]

because of the original post

[flat remnant]

the drapes are lapis

[fallen blaze]

Oh that explains it

[frigid karma]

The shears are indigo

[thorn fractal]

The mail is violet

[marsh ibex]

https://failbetterhome.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/blue-curtains.png?w=900

[flat remnant]

the mantle is is navy

[stark estuary]

What you're talking about is a common critique of literary (and other types of) criticism / academic study. It's meant to point out how it's possible to read subtext from a source that the author never intended. If you've ever written fiction, you'll know it happens in crazy ways.

Most of the time, when it comes up, it feels like it's being brought up by some angsty high schooler that hates their English class. "This teacher is so bad at English they're teaching us stuff the author never intended."

[thorn fractal]

thank you 🤯

[marsh ibex]

copy pasted

[stark estuary]

🤫

[fallen blaze]

Crazy as hell if u think I can tead

[obsidian juniper]

i feel the courtains are blue is a generalization
it means not everything is gonna have meaning beyond this is cool as hell or because i said so

[fallen blaze]

Read*

[thorn fractal]

I'm illiterate so I ain't reading allat

[fallen blaze]

I still dont get it

[versed pollen]

If you're illiterate you CAN'T read it

[thorn fractal]

I cam read it somewhat

[fallen blaze]

Its judt the teachers interpretation or?

[frigid karma]

God I hate this image so much the English teachers sentence isn't even that hard to understand it's legit jus "blue is a sad color so they chose it for a sad scene" what is not to understand omfgggggg

[fiery burrow]

Illiterate people can read like 5 sentences 😭

[hollow terrace]

Alright who’s the boogyman we’re arguing our points against

[thorn fractal]

I don't even know what that means

[fallen blaze]

That means

[marsh ibex]

well sure but people use it as a way to shut up any analysis on a topic online and it can just…be both anyways

[fallen blaze]

The curtains are cerulean

[thorn fractal]

okay I may be exaggerating 🤏🤏

[marsh ibex]

It isn’t as mutually exclusive as the author imagines, what you take away from a piece of media matters as much as what the author intended

[fallen blaze]

😡

[fiery burrow]

Me. I said kicking puppies was morally justifiable.

[obsidian juniper]

yeah
thats why i said its a generalization,people can be too pushy to take things as they are and not interpret metaphors

[frigid karma]

I mean different stories different things that's why you have to be able to tell author intent

[fallen blaze]

Uuuuuuuuuuu

[versed pollen]

Me

[cyan forum]

No news this january lol

[versed pollen]

I hate analysis in literature

[fallen blaze]

I hate yaps

[frigid karma]

Like you should be able tk easily tell if the author is trying tk tell a deep story with metaphors that require analysis or just "fuck it we ball EXPLOSION"

[cyan forum]

👀

bro

[opaque sigil]

literary analysis can be fun teenagers just refuse to have fun with it because it's school

[fallen blaze]

Literary analysis boo

[versed pollen]

I don't like it so it objectively sucks, actually

[marsh ibex]

also teachers can just make it horrid

[opaque sigil]

I got lucky with teachers so ig I can't really speak on that

[marsh ibex]

ie I liked lord of the flies but my teacher dragged out us reading it

[olive bobcat]

I remember my 8th grade English teacher made us write some weird shit

[marsh ibex]

to kill a mockingbird was funny

[frigid karma]

Surely this isn't bait...

[marsh ibex]

the side eyes during certain words were not

[versed pollen]

My favourite thing is when teachers make me write weird shit because I'm actually not so bad at that

[marsh ibex]

yeah you do it daily

[versed pollen]

Ah hell nah wtf man

[versed pollen]

Thank you, it comes with experience

[frigid karma]

I feel like a problem with English class is that they make you analyse stuff you don't wanna analyse so you read a story you don't like

[olive bobcat]

@sage void progress is going great

[frigid karma]

And that's the problem you don't like the look so you aren't gonna enjoy picking through it and shit

[sage void]

lets gooo

[marsh ibex]

when you live in a predominantly white area and take high level classes which are again, predominantly white? Comes with the territory

[olive bobcat]

Did you ever read that post about someone whose teacher made them write like they lost their kids in 9/11

[obsidian juniper]

what is to kill a mockingbird?

[fallen blaze]

Donald duck tucked in bed

[olive bobcat]

It was kinda like that

[versed pollen]

OMG I LOVE THAT POST

[olive bobcat]

Although not to the extent of that post

[marsh ibex]

there’s a dad who’s a lawyer and he has to defend a black guy who was accused of doing bad things to a white woman

[frigid karma]

Famous book

[marsh ibex]

from the perspective of his kids

[obsidian juniper]

oh icic

[fallen blaze]

Honk

[fallen blaze]

Mimimimi

[thorn fractal]

Pink Geometric Patterened Shirt with an Upside Down Red Triangle Symbol

It is frozen on the inside

[fallen blaze]

Everywhere I go

[olive bobcat]

What does this mean Lake

[thorn fractal]

It is frozen on the inside

[olive bobcat]

I don't get it

[thorn fractal]

obtuse red triangle on an upside down green pyramid

[fallen blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-death-sad-lasagna-blow-torch-gif--garfield-death-sad-lasagna-gif-16442652701325459644

[thorn fractal]

It has lava on the inside.

[quiet knot]

are you high?

[fallen blaze]

No hes blue lake

[olive bobcat]

I think he's just weird

[thorn fractal]

No I just really like blue circles that are frozen on the inside

[fallen blaze]

Like what

[thorn fractal]

it's correct batman

[fallen blaze]

You've gone mad imo

[fallen blaze]

Remix 😭 ????

[thorn fractal]

It's frozen on the outside

[thorn fractal]

what is bro plotting

[fallen blaze]

😈

[thorn fractal]

You aint 𓊗𓁹𓁹𓁰𓅻𓁜𓂀𓁹𓍯𓆸𓃠𓆦𓆉𓃒𓄀𓃻𓄆𓄿𓅇𓅊𓅆𓆣𓆚𓆙𓅛𓅢𓅿𓀕𓀂𓀧𓁂𓁉𓀾𓁀𓁚𓁜𓁥𓂏𓁹𓁹 little bro 😭😭☝️

[prisma meteor]

hellaur everyone....

[thorn fractal]

hi

[fallen blaze]

D1 yapper

[prisma meteor]

I love the pregnant man emoji

[fallen blaze]

Nah ima do my own thing

[thorn fractal]

🫃

[olive bobcat]

mpreg emoji

[prisma meteor]

🤫🧏‍♀️

these are also good emojis

[fallen blaze]

Good God

[thorn fractal]

🤫🧏‍♂️

[fallen blaze]

Stooooooopppp

[thorn fractal]

(bye-bye)

[fallen blaze]

No

[thorn fractal]

🦉

[prisma meteor]

hi aluo....

[fallen blaze]

Looks like I'm not skibidi enough or whatever the kids yap about nowadays

[violet path]

Chat i need your input

[fallen blaze]

Yes you should

[violet path]

Do i start replaying rdr2 now and do my hw later or do my hw now like a good student

[fallen blaze]

When is it due

[violet path]

Tonight

[prisma meteor]

play satisfactory with me

[fiery burrow]

Play rdr2 now and feed your homework to your dog

[fallen blaze]

Do the homework

[flat remnant]

hi rosie

tonight i'm drawing hatsune miku with a knife 😈

[fallen blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-ink-pig-head-memoji-gif-25029183

[flat remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/madoka-dance-homura-gun-homura-akemi-gif-15167343

[spare fractal]

sonic r is awesome

[fallen blaze]

Sonic s is better

[olive bobcat]

@sage void Almost out of class, still working on Koala

[sage void]

kk awesome

aluooooo help me im in the cold rock it loop

@olive bobcat https://open.spotify.com/track/5qD7IupKtX4p5UfTUtmhFY?si=nXyHJI1iSReUnmElGn0cOQ

[olive bobcat]

Here let me give you another song

https://open.spotify.com/track/5WBbWwR1bTLQlCj9BdtV5q?si=2a2b7e1c85d8422b

[flat remnant]

is this pepsiman

[olive bobcat]

Making Koala's top is the hard part

Cause I need to combine two or three clothing items to get the right look

[sage void]

listen to cold rock it pleaseeee 2 mello is the best artist imaginable

[olive bobcat]

Later Alligator OST good tbh

[sage void]

i would agree

[olive bobcat]

This song pretty banger

[sage void]

have you played spin rhythm aluo?

[olive bobcat]

Wuzzat

[sage void]

or do i need to stream it to you

ok guess i gotta show you spin rhythm

[sage void]

its a really awesome rhythm game with 2 mello and custom modded songs

like beat saber modded but better

ive only dont XD difficulty on TWO songs and only ranked one at D+

[olive bobcat]

Ah I see

Lemme see if I can find one of my old Beat Saber vids

[sage void]

I HAVE ONE OF MINE WAIT

[olive bobcat]

Didn't beat the level but I got far

[sage void]

REAL MY WAR.,..

[olive bobcat]

Fun part is at 2:14

[sage void]

trust me i cant beat My Time reither

@olive bobcat epilepsy warning

[olive bobcat]

It's that stupid pattern that's like a spiral

[sage void]

i have Rush E beaten tho

let me get my my time clip

[olive bobcat]

Zigzag*

lmao trans blocks based

[sage void]

i dont have it saved but i have my rush e one but I DIDNT RECORD MY CLEAR 😭

i cleared ONCE and never will again 🙏

[olive bobcat]

Slow moving crowded songs my hated

[sage void]

ive got to be prideful

[sage void]

samee

[olive bobcat]

I played a World's End Valentine map that was slow blocks, fucking sucked

[sage void]

when you finish that class ill show u spin rhythm before we hop on roblox

[olive bobcat]

I'm out rn

[sage void]

oh awesome

vc? we can do it in my server

[olive bobcat]

Also I did the math during the fast part, it was like 14 blocks per second

[sage void]

damnn

i have bps mods lol

[olive bobcat]

You can see how fast my hands are shaking after the fail

[sage void]

it happens every time

do u do expert or expert+?

[olive bobcat]

Anyways sure

[sage void]

alr cool

[olive bobcat]

I always do expert+

[sage void]

same

[olive bobcat]

Making Koala on Roblox

[rustic ore]

omg i love throwing hands

wait. wrong chat

[fallen blaze]

Bro think he rocky or sumn

[flat remnant]

the purple names have flooded chat

[rustic ore]

cat get ourple

[flat remnant]

us white names are being oppressed

[flat remnant]

no money

[rustic ore]

GET OURPLE OR GET OUTPLE

[olive bobcat]

We oppress whites here

[crisp drift]

Is the ourple a typo or not.

[flat remnant]

do NOT search ourple on gif search and click the second result

[rustic ore]

Ay bro tf is that

[flat remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/ao-oni-mobile-scary-dancing-ao-oni-dancing-gif-27401085

[crisp drift]

I'm curious what is it, but I don't want for curiosity to kill the cat so.