sk-discussion

[warped nacelle]

Like maybe in years idk

[unkempt agate]

Some day I will be able to finely dice an onion in under 15 seconds

Problem

Money

[uneven vault]

is losing your hand worth it?

cause you’re obviously doing something wrong

[unkempt agate]

nuh uh

[modest night]

Are you actually a chef??

[unkempt agate]

Yes

[modest night]

Holy shit

That's so cool

[unkempt agate]

I'm chef

[uneven vault]

also i don’t want to taste meals filled with your blood

[unkempt agate]

It's called practice

I'm testing out different grips

[uneven vault]

trial by fire literally speaking

[unkempt agate]

The one I'm currently using is fucked

[warped nacelle]

How long have you been doing that

[flat remnant]

You will never be him

[flint mica]

hm bro help me hollow knight boss?

[uneven vault]

and you’re trying to rush it

[modest night]

Manual labour

[uneven vault]

#hk-help is a better channel

[unkempt agate]

It's been giving me extremely painful calyces

[modest night]

Yeah I don't have pikmins

[flat remnant]

calluses?

[unkempt agate]

The oven

[unkempt agate]

Sure

[uneven vault]

i still have a burn mark from taking something out of the oven

like yes you can make mistakes but i think you’re being a little reckless

[unkempt agate]

I am lol

I'm clumsy

But, I'm tough

[uneven vault]

ok

idk how to help you then

[modest night]

(That's the burnt nerve endings speaking)

[warped nacelle]

As long as it's small cuts, careful not to actually lose a finger or something 🥴

[uneven vault]

i used to work at a grocery store and quite a few people have reattached fingers from the deli machines

[unkempt agate]

Sadly yes, I cut myself quite badly about a year ago, I no longer have feeling in my left ring finger

[cerulean sable]

i remember watching a guy who does detailed tier lists on Bioshock 1, 2 and Infinite weapons

[chilly nexus]

climb ropes

[cerulean sable]

and his total assessment was pretty much in line with mine

[unkempt agate]

I severed the nerve lol

[uneven vault]

tier list is use what weapon you have ammo for

[cerulean sable]

BS1 had some "ehh its an ok gun but once you get x, you pretty much dominate everything with it" same with plasmids

[chilly nexus]

anyone here played remnant 2?

[warped nacelle]

Ballista and spear gun peak

[uneven vault]

ammo management was very much a big part of it so i think half the time i just drilled everyone in bioshock 2

[cerulean sable]

BS2 was pretty much "the only lack luster gun was the double barrel shotgun AND EVEN THEN its a fuckign B tier and is pretty much viable on all difficulties if you wanna use it so much"

same with plasmids

i think the only lack luster plasmid was Telekinesis

[modest night]

Holy shit WHAT you gotta be more careful

[warped nacelle]

Me when bees

[cerulean sable]

which was still really good

oh Bees were an S tier

[warped nacelle]

It's so good omg

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-bee-damned-bee-i'll-be-damned-shrimple-its-as-shrimple-as-that-gif-9456218215943143153

bees are indeed bees

[warped nacelle]

Makes all enemies panic and it actually fucking hurts

[uneven vault]

i was not very meta imma be real

[warped nacelle]

How will you cook if you lose your hands

[unkempt agate]

Ok I just checked setting, you can change the app icon now?

There's one called uwu~

[uneven vault]

and also i can’t extract any little sisters it’s not right

[cerulean sable]

they should make Hollow Shock

and instead of skills Hornet should shoot lightning and bees out of her hands

[chilly nexus]

if you heard someone say "B B damned", you wouldn't know if they were saying "Bee, be damned" and cursing a bee, or saying "Be Bee damned" and cursing someone to be attacked by vengeful bees

[unkempt agate]

Why is there one called "uwu~"

[cerulean sable]

and Silk needs to be replenished by a hypo tool that contains Silk that she injects in his forearms

[uneven vault]

silksong if it was good

[warped nacelle]

The lifeblood syringe in the trailer is in fact EVE from the hit series Bioshock

[cerulean sable]

unironically tho i found Bishock 1's way of replenishing eve to be metal

[unkempt agate]

Chat, should I change my discord icon to uwu

[cerulean sable]

like, fucking just stab your arm with a huge ass needle to refill your "mana" so to speak

in other games they gently poke the needle in their arms

nah in fucking Bioshock and Cry of Fear, its like they intend to stab their arm as forcefully as they could to deliver the solution into their bloodstream ASAP

[warped nacelle]

Solid needles

Never break

[cerulean sable]

tbf afaik theyre hypedermic needles

[uneven vault]

solid ass veins

[cerulean sable]

and theyre pretty thick

like theyre more like large stabby things

[warped nacelle]

horrible

[cerulean sable]

hornet is metal

the lifeblood injector is like half the size of her body but the motherfucker injects it to herself like shes some rivers of blood user from elden ring

[modest night]

Dude I want to look at the hornet animations in game

Like sigh it's gonna be so cool

[cerulean sable]

the only animation im kinda weirded about is her variable pogo animation

[unkempt agate]

I wanna look at the hornet animations

[warped nacelle]

SS will be amazing 🥹

[cerulean sable]

the one where she rolls midair looks really good

[hollow terrace]

all the unique tools animations

[cerulean sable]

the one i kinda find weird is the one where she summersaults

[split juniper]

mark my words gta 6 is going to release before silksong and THAT in and of itself says alot

[uneven vault]

nah you prob aren’t correct

[warped nacelle]

What exactly is the current state of gta 6 anyway

We had a release window for SS

[cerulean sable]

like this spin is good, but the one where she flips upside down kinda looks SLIGHTLY jank with how much frames they use

[hollow terrace]

there were "playable" leak videos for gta6

[warped nacelle]

I know that much

[unkempt agate]

https://vxtwitter.com/markiplier/status/1334342687047122945?t=8D37OVzBcRTGZuxFVCxyaw&s=19

[split juniper]

wasnt it supposed to b 2023

[uneven vault]

trailer next month

[unkempt agate]

What did mark mean by this?

[split juniper]

and now its radiosilence

[uneven vault]

it’s not radio silence

it was confirmed the scope for silksong was increased slightly and required more time

[hollow terrace]

https://vxtwitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1656106351184199680

[warped nacelle]

I don't think gta 6 will be there before ss

[coarse leaf]

it was never confirmed for 2023 by team cherry, that was xbox being stupid

[cerulean sable]

it was kinda like

[warped nacelle]

gta doesn't really interest me anyway

[uneven vault]

gta online sucks i’m not excited for online 2

[surreal remnant]

perfect place for a new base

[lusty horizon]

still a beautiful area

[warped nacelle]

That generation 😩

Are you using mods

[marsh ibex]

LOAD

LOAD YOU FUCKING IMAGES

LOAD

[lusty horizon]

no

[surreal remnant]

mhm, world gen is vanilla tho

[uneven vault]

time to play for 2 weeks then forget about minecraft for another year

[warped nacelle]

There are mods for it

[surreal remnant]

i did find that seed on the internet

[warped nacelle]

But ok

That looks super cool

[surreal remnant]

mods for what

[uneven vault]

modded world gen

[warped nacelle]

For different world gen 😭

[surreal remnant]

yes i'm aware, i'm saying that world gen is vanilla

[warped nacelle]

Was wondering since it does look really cool

For vanilla

[cerulean sable]

2022
Xbox "Hey are you guys planning on releasing within 2023?"
TC: "Uhh well, any dev wants to finish their games, whenever we feel its up to standards well release, but game dev is volatile so you never know"
Xbox: "Yeah I get it, but if you THINK you can release it within 1 year, do you think its possible"
TC: "I were not solidly aiming for any release date in particular but yeah it would be cool to finish before 1 year passes, we guess?"
Xbox: "Ok. TEAM CHERRY WILL BE RELEASING HOLLOW KNIGHT WITHIN 1 YEAR"

[surreal remnant]

it's a cherry blossom biome surrounded entirely by some pretty tall mountains

[warped nacelle]

Building in and on mountains is something I often do

[surreal remnant]

other side

[uneven vault]

i rarely see the new mountains they are so cool looking though

[warped nacelle]

[cerulean sable]

like tbf i dont really blame them, if you had a project that you had 0 deadlines to accomodate to and someone asked when are you going to be done and tis been 4 years, i think saying "yeah maybe around a year?" is a decent enough prediction

[unkempt agate]

Chat, does rainworld take place in asia

[cerulean sable]

like youre not commited to a date yeah, but anyone would probably FEEL like they could hit 1 year as a soft deadline, but TC didnt, so no worries its not like theyre hard commited

[uneven vault]

it’s probably rained in asia at least once

[cerulean sable]

but they still had to pop out the announcement because thats the general community impression

good thing tho 90% of the announcements reception was nice and people were supportive

[warped nacelle]

fr

[coarse leaf]

i dont doubt silksong is maybe getting near the end of its development cycle so i can believe a release date is on the horizon

[uneven vault]

we can only wait till people stop joining the server just to ask about silksong

[warped nacelle]

Same

[cerulean sable]

well they have no deadline anyway

[coarse leaf]

yeah

[uneven vault]

that’s the great thing with indie

[cerulean sable]

so its probably a soft deadline thing but afaik theyre just doing whenever

[hollow terrace]

i believe they are DONE and are making DLC for SILKSONG

RIGHT NOW

[uneven vault]

if you want a copy paste game every year get call of duty

[cerulean sable]

also its important to take breaks to avoid burnout and give you a better perspective to where your work is now

afaik its not like theyre just going "ok 1 day of work, time to take a long break" even, they have this internal thing where they do crunches on their own pace and as someone who got into some of those more passionate streaks, it does happen lol

i had moments where i would "eh i could probably code for from 8AM to 12PM, then for the rest of my off im gonna play video games"

then fast forward its fucking 8PM

[warped nacelle]

As Slime Rancher team said

[cerulean sable]

good words

[hollow terrace]

and theres days where you wanna burn down ceos homes because you got tired staring at a computer's screen

[cerulean sable]

aTREU

[uneven vault]

mojang? (average complainer)

[cerulean sable]

also in my experience, coding when youre seeing YOUR ideas come to fruitition is a different beast vs being told what to make

and TC does take month breaks anyway so honestly trying to detach themselves from the internet is also a good strategy to some degrees

[lusty horizon]

I see.

[cerulean sable]

not that i agree with their overall marketing job but you get me

[split juniper]

OK

[warped nacelle]

@coarse leaf hi do you have a good website to read dandadan

[cerulean sable]

i dont like the DS quest structure for ER ngl

like i get the idea that you dont need to see everything or get handheld everywhere

but i barely got invested cuz its usually
meet someone
accidentally find them in another area
find them dead

[uneven vault]

i mean the main thing was having to show silksong early because of backer obligations i don’t believe it would have been shown otherwise

[coarse leaf]

honestly just subscribe to viz’s shonen jump stuff, its only 2 USD a month and it gives you access to p much the whole shonen library. if you dont wanna tho i think mangadex is still up and tends to be a pretty solid fan translation website

[warped nacelle]

ok thank youuu

[cerulean sable]

yeah

im kinda torn in one way that yeah i agree that they had to show their backers that it wasnt a scam

but on the other hand, i think having af ull on trailer probably skewed expectations

[uneven vault]

it’s not the fault of team cherry in that case

[cerulean sable]

THAT BEING SAID, they probably had to expand the game given the reception was

"wow its going to be as big as Hollow Knight"

[uneven vault]

what about the tree house

[cerulean sable]

and honestly in the end as much as we grovel over the wait, once it is out, well all be (hopefully) thankful that they actually took their time

having immediate relief is great, but id rather have to wait for something actually memorable

[heady iron]

Thanksgiving is over
I'm done being thankful

[lusty horizon]

fair

although

[charred surge]

open slay the spire
pick silent
on last chest, see kunai and compulsively pick it up before realizing you lost your chance at getting the blue key
kunai goes on to let you absolutely demolish act 3 boss
technically win the run but don’t get to act 4
realize that tbh you probably wouldn’t have gotten to act 4 without kunai, and if you did act 4 prolly would still be rough, but you definitely couldn’t get there if you did pick it up because of aforementioned blue key
curse fate for this cruel catch-22

[lusty horizon]

I felt more than happy to see Seluvis die

[cerulean sable]

oh yeah fuck that guy

[uneven vault]

showing full gameplay from not a trailer also kinda makes people think it’s along the way

[charred surge]

Whatchy’all talkin about

[coarse leaf]

unfortunately as with every online community theres always gonna be those people who find a reason to be negative no matter what

[languid linden]

I think they also thought that it was gonna be out fairly soon tbh

[uneven vault]

expectations be that way

[languid linden]

Like not as optimistic as the fanbase was maybe with their late 2019/early 2020 predictions

[uneven vault]

idk i’m one of probably many who has only played hollow knight with all dlcs out

[languid linden]

But idk their scope creep is kinda insane

[uneven vault]

so saying the game is big of course it is it had many expansions

[coarse leaf]

i think i started playing hollow knight like a month or two before the first dlc released

[uneven vault]

well i got it on steam sale and luckily decided to actually play it

[cerulean sable]

my only issue with scope creep is when it starts turning into bloat

[coarse leaf]

i get the impression their scope creep was mostly out of passion honestly lmao. thats not saying expectations had no part in it but the fact they just kept adding more and more from how theyve talked about it im not sure it was totally out of obligation

[cerulean sable]

having too many systems that dont interact with each other or feel divorced is something id wanna avoid

[uneven vault]

gotta love bloat in an already huge game

[cerulean sable]

so many games for example adds eating mechanics but on practice theyre either borderline neglible or outright fucking annoying

also

[coarse leaf]

red dead 2

[cerulean sable]

i think a misconception is thinking more dev = more content strictly in the space of having more areas

[languid linden]

Yeah I agree

[cerulean sable]

theyre not gonna add like, another area everytime, but rather when its not refining, its doing something other like say fleshing out dialogue

those arent strictly content in the sense people are expecting more gameplay elements, but nonethesless theyre a huge undertaking on their own

[uneven vault]

dialogue in my vidya game? i can’t read

[unkempt agate]

Hey chat, should I do the steel balls challenge in dead cells

[cerulean sable]

like you can say "its just text how hard can it be?"

[uneven vault]

never heard of steel balls challenge

[coarse leaf]

honestly something i am very excited for above a lot of stuff is the visuals and art in silksong

[uneven vault]

everyone cheering cause silksong doesn’t have godhome so you can actually play the game

[cerulean sable]

but theyre probably accounting for stuff like, what if x character does y if z happens? or would they react differently?
HK already had these like checks for dialogue and characters reacting differently, now imagine Silksong who arguably HAS MORE dialogue possibilites due to how many more people there are

[unkempt agate]

Basically you beat every difficulty in sequence from a new save without dying once

[coarse leaf]

it feels like over the course of development with hollow knight and its dlcs team cherry learned and improved the art and animation they were already very talented at and all the trailers for silksong have really shown that

the art looks BEAUTIFUL this time around

even moreso than the last game

[uneven vault]

eesh

[cerulean sable]

i wouldnt be surprised given that they said you can downright ignore dialogue, there would be extra checks and dialogue snippets of character reacting differently if you didnt interact with them

[uneven vault]

“and this is why the silk is songed”

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[coarse leaf]

im really curious how the dialogue is gonna work now that we’re not playing a mute character

[unkempt agate]

And you have to do it in 6 runs, you can't play the same difficulty twice, as soon as you beat it, you gotta do the next one

[cerulean sable]

from "Oh its you, from the town before, weve met! You mentioned you were looking for X correct?" to "Who the fuck are you, and what the fuck are you doing here?"

those things add up

[uneven vault]

polish in my vidya game? i only play rushed games

[sage void]

[fiery burrow]

I wonder how indepth the interactions will go lore wise

[cerulean sable]

and some people are probably underestimating how much time it probably takes to make everything cohesive

[fiery burrow]

I remember being flabbergasted playing undertale and realizing just how much lore is hidden away in areas you can just completely miss

[uneven vault]

there is no lore

lore isn’t real

[languid linden]

The room will fill with GAS

[cerulean sable]

cuz remember, HK had a lot of those interactions but rarely do they cross interact with other

most NPCs dont really interact with each other so dependencies are probably not a huge issue here, we dont know for Silksong but what if it is? thats probably something they had to experiment with mid developement

not just "oh theyre probably adding new areas or new bosses!" everytime

[coarse leaf]

even in very well-made video games there can be very strange moments in dialogue where an npc just mentions you doing something optional that you didnt do so im sure its tough

[uneven vault]

hornet blows up in a fiery explosion?

[uneven vault]

usually can happen with sequels as well but since they are different games we forgive them a bit

[coarse leaf]

gyas….

[cerulean sable]

lowkey one of my favorite parts of new vegas is how little stuff can change how the interactions initially

[coarse leaf]

yeah, this was the case for gow ragnarok but thats way tougher to do since it involves using save data from a whole nother game

[cerulean sable]

stuff like "never seen you around here before, whats up?"
to "oh its you, i cant believe someone like you would even show up in a place like this!"

[uneven vault]

i love when games unironically do use it though it’s nice

save data reading isn’t impossible

[cerulean sable]

hell one small thing with a certain NPC that i like that reinforced my roleplaying as a doctor was a ranger in Vault 3

hes initially hostile at you but if you perform a medical check, you can tell him his legs is fucked up and he cant continue the mission

[coarse leaf]

i know

[cerulean sable]

but after that, some of his dialogue changes from "what the hell are you still here for?" to "is there anything else doc?"

or "look i dont need help, i can finish this mission just give me time" to "look doc, i can still fight, i just need to rest a bit ok?"

so that tiny change HELPS A LOT when youer RPing as a doctor

[coarse leaf]

one thing ill always find strange is that totk used inter-game save data so you still had your horses from botw but weirdly chose not to incorporate that in more subtle ways like hestu not treating you like a total stranger again when you find him in totk

[uneven vault]

yeah tears has that problem in general

[fiery burrow]

It felt like no one knew me when playing ToTK even though I interacted them a lot in BoTW

Certainly odd but I cant blame them for that

[opaque sigil]

the major characters all know you

[coarse leaf]

the super story important characters all knew you yeah

[uneven vault]

many npcs act like a stranger unless they are someone story

[opaque sigil]

only randos

hestu knew you pretty sure

[coarse leaf]

but any optional interactions from botw nintendo decided to just assume the player never engaged with them

[uneven vault]

even terry town people act unfamiliar though i built that shit for you

[opaque sigil]

terry towners that you recruited know you but there are new people there

[uneven vault]

not all of them

some of the originals don’t know you for some reason

it’s weird cause it seems like they want to go with the fact you helped build terry town but didn’t do other side quests?

[coarse leaf]

i just think it was silly for them to not include that when theyd already incorporated totk reading your botw save into the game

[cerulean sable]

seriously you dont have to make a perfect world but nothing makes my brain more gooey is when NPCs react to the world around even if its one line of dialogue, which is my main issue with Skyrim vs New Vegas. NV doesnt to perfectly, but compare it to Skyrim

Skyrim: kill the emperor
NPCs: noone even acknowledges it, noone even fucking cares

New Vegas: Kill Caesar
NPCs: https://youtu.be/k7ErfgAhrt4?t=22

[coarse leaf]

and only ever used it for horses instead

[uneven vault]

horses are cool though

better than nothing i guess just sucks

[coarse leaf]

it was especially cool being able to have the unique horses from botw that arent in totk

i do appreciate that

[uneven vault]

i would rather them assume we know everyone

[uneven vault]

i think all of them can be found or at least some of the ones

locations have moved though

[coarse leaf]

some can but stuff like zelda’s horse dont exist in totk

and zelda’s horse is awesome

[opaque sigil]

it certainly looks better than the gold horse which ig is basically the equivalent

[coarse leaf]

ill never forgive nintendo for not letting you fully tame the king of the mountain in EITHER of the games smh

i want to bend a powerful spirit to be a mount for me

[uneven vault]

it’s op as hell and was never meant to be

[coarse leaf]

trueeee

[uneven vault]

also it’s supposed to be iwata so prob not

[opaque sigil]

they maybe could've let you keep a stalhorse but those die in the sun so

[coarse leaf]

i like that they gave skeleton horses a use in totk

they make getting around in the depths sm easier

[fiery burrow]

Would be quite OP as Satori has really really good stats I think

[opaque sigil]

doesn't it have infinite stamina

[uneven vault]

horses are kinda just ok now though anyways with building things

[uneven vault]

yes it do

[opaque sigil]

horses are still nice

[fiery burrow]

I believe it has stats like Eponas aswell(?)

[coarse leaf]

see im not creative like that so i still use horses a lot

[opaque sigil]

auto follow road, no battery management, relatively fast

[coarse leaf]

and i like horses

[coarse leaf]

this too

theyre a way more relaxing way to get around

[fiery burrow]

Also Horses are just nice companions

[coarse leaf]

w vehicles you actually have to pay attention

[uneven vault]

i still have my horses just i wish the botw dlc ancient armor came back

[coarse leaf]

trueee

[fiery burrow]

Yeah that was nice

Too bad the armor itself was ugly

[uneven vault]

i like being able to teleport my horse cause i forget it or can’t get it up somewhere

[opaque sigil]

eh it was nice but a bit much and not that necessary since stables are everywhere

and it was ugly

[coarse leaf]

it also kinda lost its purpose once you get that motor bike

[fiery burrow]

I wanna ride my horse around the great plateau

[coarse leaf]

granted you can only get that from the dlc that you unlock at endgame

[uneven vault]

had to use monster parts it wasn’t infinite

[opaque sigil]

tbh I'm sure you can get it there if you try

[fiery burrow]

Ultrahand shenanigans could get it up there for sure

[opaque sigil]

ride it onto a platform and make it a hot air balloon

[coarse leaf]

ok but did you not have a fucking ballistic amount of unused monster parts by endgame

[uneven vault]

octoballoons as well every forgets about them now

[opaque sigil]

they're redundant

[fiery burrow]

They're kinda clunky to use

[coarse leaf]

octoballoons kind of sucked

[uneven vault]

well yes i used my 999 springs and stuff

[coarse leaf]

mainly because i never always have a korok leaf on me in botw

[opaque sigil]

they were neat in botw but now there's just no real point in using them

[uneven vault]

but horses still weren’t useless

[coarse leaf]

i like totk’s use of the tool durability stuff soooo much more

[uneven vault]

have the same advantages still

[coarse leaf]

weapon fusing made it actually fun

[uneven vault]

sucks the master sword one is broken

[coarse leaf]

and not just a lame durability system

[opaque sigil]

weapon fusing also made actually doing combat worth it

[uneven vault]

it only works for the first fuse on the master sword

[coarse leaf]

yeah

granted it srill wasnt useless for me in botw because i used elixers a ton

[opaque sigil]

master sword gets infinite durability against ganondorf so whatever

you can use other shit for other things

[uneven vault]

i miss silver enemies dropping gems though

[coarse leaf]

im glad they did this

[opaque sigil]

would've been a bit anticlimactic if they didn't

[coarse leaf]

ganondorf in totk is probably my current favorite ganon fight in the franchise

[uneven vault]

master sword is for mining ore

[opaque sigil]

oh yeah the whole ending sequence is fantastic

[coarse leaf]

the ganon fight in twilight princess stood on top for me before totk

[opaque sigil]

now they drop more useful stuff

[coarse leaf]

but totk’s version just went completely ballistic and knocked it out of the park

[opaque sigil]

are you counting demise because that also slapped

[coarse leaf]

yeah, demise was like a close second

now close third

[uneven vault]

worst change is fairy fountains costing rupees every upgrade instead of initial unlock

[opaque sigil]

didn't they always do that

[uneven vault]

no it was free after you first bought them besides the monster parts

[coarse leaf]

ehhh i always have a surplus of rupees anyways because i never use gems outside of amber and diamond in weapon fusing

so i just sell them usually

[opaque sigil]

gems are fun but hard to use

[coarse leaf]

oh and topaz for dealing with the scary hands

[uneven vault]

you don’t get gems as often unless you go mining

[coarse leaf]

i go mining a lot

[opaque sigil]

I never had a shortage

lot of caves

[uneven vault]

shortage of diamonds usually cause everyone wants diamonds now

i haven’t crafted the champion weapons yet cause i need the rupees

[coarse leaf]

as much as i still love botw there is just so much that totk did better the more i think about it

[uneven vault]

also i like upgraded every armor piece

[fiery burrow]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

the dungeons are absolutely the biggest improvement

[uneven vault]

i can’t really do that right now

[fiery burrow]

I'd argue the combat has had the biggest overhall

[coarse leaf]

the divine beasts in botw were still fun but they just didnt have any memorability

[fiery burrow]

The dungeons had shallow theming

[opaque sigil]

the combat is largely the same it just has motivation now

[uneven vault]

also star fragments being easier def helps lol

[opaque sigil]

gleeoks are cool though

[fiery burrow]

Fuse and ultrahand are huge

[uneven vault]

lynels are brain dead easy though now

with having double damage weapons and fuse parts

[opaque sigil]

they were in botw too

[coarse leaf]

the improvement for me is less about the themeing and more about the spectacle and uniqueness of their designs both visually and layout-wise

[uneven vault]

they were yes but it takes like 2 cycles now

[coarse leaf]

We talking about tears of the kingdom?

yeah

[opaque sigil]

tbh fuse was a bit disappointing because of how they decreased damage (and boosted enemy health) to compensate, you're not incentivized to experiment because damage fuses are the only way to keep up

[fiery burrow]

Visually it was a big step up but I dont think the layout is changed substantially from the divine beasts

[opaque sigil]

what

[coarse leaf]

did we play the same game

[opaque sigil]

they're pretty different idk what to say

[fiery burrow]

Speak for yourself

[opaque sigil]

some are a bit more like beasts than others but they were all pretty different

[coarse leaf]

i just appreciated it for how fun it was

[opaque sigil]

it certainly did add a lot to the game it just seems like that could've been handled better

[coarse leaf]

one of the first unique weapons i made was long stick thick stick and it made me smile and i loved it from then on out

[uneven vault]

fusing wings to shields for free slow mode is cool but yeah you either have gleeok horns or high damage lynel parts in your weapons

[fiery burrow]

Maybe my memory fails me

[uneven vault]

i’ll usually just use silver boko cause i have so many though

[opaque sigil]

getting intact weapons from depths does kind of give you opportunities to have damage capable things that aren't boring fusions mechanically but even in those cases you can just damage fuse for even more damage

[coarse leaf]

i mean if you want more challenge you could just as easily not use the super powerful fusing parts

[fiery burrow]

I'd use silver boko horns if they didn't look so goofy

Bro your a bokoblin not an anglerfish

why is it shaped like that

[uneven vault]

the dungeons and divine beasts both just have you activate the terminals it’s kinda just eh

if the dungeons were more then go to next terminal it could have some more interesting nuance and use your abilities more

[coarse leaf]

this is true for the rito dungeon but every other dungeon felt like so much more than this

[uneven vault]

fuse is underutilized for majority of puzzles

[opaque sigil]

you say that like you don't use the abilities to get to the terminals

[coarse leaf]

you could still strip it down to that but thats just ignoring all the unique parts

which is lame

[uneven vault]

you never use fuse in a dungeon though

it’s used for like one shrine quest maybe?

[opaque sigil]

basically all the hunt shrines use it a lot

[fiery burrow]

Those shrines were so cool

[opaque sigil]

an issue with relying on fuse is that players won't always have shit that's open to be fused and nobody wants to have to lose a fancy horn so they can put a leaf on their sword for 30 seconds

[uneven vault]

those shrines were less puzzles and more tests of skill but sure

[coarse leaf]

oh another huge improvement for me was the side quests/side adventures, even if the rewards still werent amazing just doing a lot of them was so much more fun and actually took your attention and some time unlike the really lame side quests in botw

[fiery burrow]

Had to treat em like puzzles

[uneven vault]

shrines having so many damn blessings was ugh

the sky blessings were kinda eh you just get an orb to a location

[opaque sigil]

yeah the intent was clearly not for you to fight head on, they all had traps you lured enemies into or shit

[uneven vault]

some required more interesting things but mostly

[opaque sigil]

at least flux constructs are neat

[uneven vault]

it was higher island use glider to get them down

[fiery burrow]

The sound they make when hitting them is peak sound design

[uneven vault]

i’m not gonna complain for people cheesing shrines that’s on them

[coarse leaf]

like the really simple zero-effort quests from botw were still there but then they had some actual fun engaging stories that took some time to complete along with those, more stuff like the tarry town questline in botw basically

where you actually feel like youre doing something

[uneven vault]

cause yes shrines are kinda eh

lurelin village was cool

[opaque sigil]

shrines in general were a big step up

[fiery burrow]

Very fun to cheese

[coarse leaf]

i mean can you really call it cheesing if the whole point of how totk is is that you can solve shrines however you want

[opaque sigil]

not perfect but more creative than botw

[uneven vault]

if it wasn’t for the like 32 blessings maybe

[opaque sigil]

those are a different situation

[uneven vault]

rocket on shield and you had to put it on before entering the shrine so not exactly however you want

[fiery burrow]

Did they patch that one rocket fuse hop glitch

[opaque sigil]

rocket shields were probably an oversight but it definitely doesn't harm the experience that much that players can do that for some shrines

[coarse leaf]

well that just sucks all the fun out of it imo

i like solving lil puzzles

[uneven vault]

that’s what i mean by cheese bruh

you remove the whole puzzle

[uneven vault]

yes

[opaque sigil]

the fact that the game prevents you from making rocket shields in shrines already does a lot to prevent people from accidentally doing it

[uneven vault]

there’s not gonna be dlc for tears so we have what we have for the game

[opaque sigil]

if people choose ahead of time to game the system a bit then that's fine

[fiery burrow]

Dont rocket shields eat durability up anyways

[opaque sigil]

like that's a major barrier

[uneven vault]

i mean you can get hylian shield pretty early if you know where it is

[fiery burrow]

Thats true

[coarse leaf]

i did love totk’s shrines for the most part over botw’s

[fiery burrow]

They felt more welcoming than botws if that makes sense

I like their general vibe more

[coarse leaf]

there are so many shrines in totk where ive solved puzzles and realized later that i didnt do it at all in the intended way which made me feel better about it

[uneven vault]

aesthetically yes but depends on the shrine

[opaque sigil]

ultrahand lends itself better to shrines mechanically than botw runes did

[coarse leaf]

the amount of really stupid ways i solved shrines was fun

[uneven vault]

the worst shrine was prob the twin peaks one in botw

[fiery burrow]

Lifting something up with ultrahand, recalling it, and ascending through it to cheese shrines never gets old

[coarse leaf]

no no the worst one was where you had to stasis-hit a ball very precisely into a hole far away from you

[opaque sigil]

I mean some of them straight up call for that

[uneven vault]

golf?

[coarse leaf]

it was a shrine kinda close to the lost woods

near the stable down the hill from them

[fiery burrow]

Yeah but you can use it and chain it near everywhere

[uneven vault]

the one is completely trivialized by it cause where you need to put the ball is over a small platform

yeah the golf shrine i know what you mean

[cerulean sable]

silksong should have post rock style titled songs
instead of Bonebottom it would be:
"i was in a dead town. i wish i was a dead bug"

then Lace would be like
"SHE CALLS FOR THE PALE FLIES, LIKE A CONDUCTOR ON A GILDED STAGE (DEE.P DOC.Kss 115.67hz)"

[uneven vault]

having to go between the two shrines to find the solution to the other with the loading screens and all that is very annoying though

[coarse leaf]

the hole you need to get to get to the spirit orb isnt super tough but theres an optional second one that you need to do to get all the chests in the shrine and i wasnt just gonna leave one single shrine incomplete so i HAD to get that one

and that optional one was fucking torturous

[uneven vault]

the chests in blessing shrines this time around were kinda bad

that’s prob why i wasn’t happy to see blessing shrines

in botw you would get armor sets and feel very rewarded

[opaque sigil]

weren't generally fantastic in botw either, limitation of what types of items exist

[coarse leaf]

this was only very rarely though

[opaque sigil]

botw had some armor sets but also a lot of gems or ancient parts

[uneven vault]

armor sets were all moved to around the caves

[uneven vault]

seeing a giant ancient core was still good

[coarse leaf]

like it did feel good when you got armor sets from shrines in botw but it happened maybe once out of every like 5-10 shrines

[uneven vault]

yeah some were still hot garbage

[coarse leaf]

so it wasnt that much better

[fiery burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[opaque sigil]

not really you get so many of those by just farming guardians

[uneven vault]

giant ancient cores are not given very often unless you are lucky

[fiery burrow]

0.5% chance

[coarse leaf]

to me just getting part of what i need for an upgrade at the end of a shrine is satisfaction enough for me

im easy to please in these games

[opaque sigil]

no shot

oh each item has a chance

[uneven vault]

i do miss old dungeons though but they can’t realistically fit in the current way the new games are designed

[opaque sigil]

which is like 12 rolls per kill

[fiery burrow]

ah

[fiery burrow]

Hopefully some old zelda is planned for the future

[coarse leaf]

if they continue with the open world format i feel theyll continue to get better and better with the designs of the main dungeons

[uneven vault]

dungeons have no real reward currently

[opaque sigil]

I think fliers maybe have a higher rate too, in any case you definitely can get plenty of ancient cores without much time investment

[coarse leaf]

the dungeons in totk were already a huge step up from the divine beasts for me

not perfect but a huge step up

[opaque sigil]

botw and totk both frontload the abilities but totk at least uses sage powers in dungeons

[uneven vault]

champ abilities in botw were nice and all but don’t get me started on these bumbling idiots in tears

[opaque sigil]

oh they weren't that bad

[coarse leaf]

i love themmm

i love having all my silly friends wjth me in totk

[fiery burrow]

Having to walk up to them to activate their abilities certainly hurts their usability a lot

[uneven vault]

trying to use them in combat was very frustrating so i just turn them off besides tulin

[opaque sigil]

yeah but the only one you need in a snap is tulin and he gets behind you when he's available

[uneven vault]

cause tulin free stun and flying was nice

[coarse leaf]

tulin was definitely the one that was the most useful primarily for sky island traversal

[opaque sigil]

sages weren't great but they were at least ok

[fiery burrow]

Yeah but why the heck is Riju actively running away from me when I need her most

[coarse leaf]

i just liked having them follow me around lol

[uneven vault]

sidon is useful for water damage up based setups

but some got in the way and the worst was accidentally getting on mineru

[opaque sigil]

yunobo as a vehicle weapon isn't that great but it is funny

[fiery burrow]

Splash fruit supremacy

[uneven vault]

have you seen the no cooldown type of thing

if you’re close enough you can activate again instantly

he has uses though it’s usually finnacky to do the no cooldown thing

[coarse leaf]

i did like the story in totk way more also

felt more fleshed out in a lot of ways

[fiery burrow]

I think the story isn't really compatible with the way its told

[uneven vault]

it’s a different format of story

[opaque sigil]

eh it worked well enough

[fiery burrow]

mfw when I get the ||zelda's transformation|| cutscene second

[opaque sigil]

[coarse leaf]

unlucky tbh

[uneven vault]

breath of the wild was vague because you start with amnesia

[coarse leaf]

just explore less smh

[fiery burrow]

Honestly I prefer BoTW's story and Zeldas arc more

[opaque sigil]

tbf the tear stuff is pretty heavily foreshadowed by a bunch of the memories so it's not like predicting it early is all that odd

[uneven vault]

that’s not even possible

[opaque sigil]

the one leading into it

[coarse leaf]

botws story was kind of just nothing though

it felt more like a setup for totk

[fiery burrow]

Not really no

[uneven vault]

|| the transformation cutscene is the last one that unlocks||

[fiery burrow]

I mean the one where she's all like ||"I know what I must do"||

[uneven vault]

pretty much half of them for shadow that

[coarse leaf]

the spectacle of the narrative was just way more enjoyable in totk for me

[uneven vault]

it’s not a surprise of it shouldn’t be

[fiery burrow]

They do yes but I was mostly just left confused and unsatisfied by seeing it first

[coarse leaf]

especially when that spectacle actually overlapped with the gameplay esp towards the end

[uneven vault]

cause i already predicted it was the first time|| i saw the dragon ||and the game even basically tells you that

|| you get the mission find zelda and the dragon will be on screen ||

[coarse leaf]

i am very curious where theyre gonna go with legend of zelda next

[opaque sigil]

||the simple presence of a new dragon should be enough to kind of point you in the right direction||

[uneven vault]

||and it has blonde hair and is smaller than the others||

[fiery burrow]

Its not just the simple fact that ||zelda is a dragon ||that that cutscene is about iirc

Though thats the big reveal

[coarse leaf]

i feel like they cant continue w the same story that botw and totk were on because i dont know what more could possibly be done with it, unless they pull a majoras mask and leave hyrule entirely

[opaque sigil]

wasn't the intent to just leave totk as the last chronologically

[coarse leaf]

no idea

thats what it feels like for sure

[opaque sigil]

either way there's plenty of space in the timeline to put whatever the hell they want in there

[uneven vault]

idk there’s translation errors in botw so we can’t be too sure

[coarse leaf]

it would be cool to see stuff outside of hyrule again for the first time in a while

[uneven vault]

zelda says “he has given up on reincarnation” in the english while it says the opposite basically in japanese

[fiery burrow]

Dont forget that one love message bottle quest with the zora and the kid

[coarse leaf]

the translation error that makes that one sidequest in botw that was meant to be simple and innocent but got turned into something evil and gross in english

[coarse leaf]

YEAH

[fiery burrow]

Granted the japanese version does have some hints of romantic context iirc but nowhere near the extent of the english version

[uneven vault]

also quest log looks cooler in japanese being first person from links perspective

[coarse leaf]

one addition in totk that was small but did so much for me was being able to drop stuff from the quick menus

[uneven vault]

i can’t really remember a specific side quest it’s been a long time

[opaque sigil]

well fuse made that a necessity in a way it never would've been in botw

[fiery burrow]

"Quick" menus

[opaque sigil]

I will say that the quick menu for fusing arrows or selecting items being a scroll through your entire materials inventory fuckin sucked even with the sorting stuff

like come on just add a feature to mark as favorite

[uneven vault]

the menu changes are kinda eh almost is worse to go through my items

the different pages in botw felt faster to me

[opaque sigil]

totk has a good deal more materials

so it takes longer to find them

[uneven vault]

yeah but now it’s all one big menu

i think weapon materials and the more gimmicky materials could have been separated

[opaque sigil]

if you could just mark things for priority in arrow fusion selection then there would be no problems

[uneven vault]

i just hope frequently used isn’t terrible

[spark vale]

Is silksong out yet?

[fiery burrow]

sspsa incoming

[uneven vault]

why would they fix actual problems we need to fix the bugs

[opaque sigil]

an option to automatically reapply the material you just used also would've made the arrow materials less annoying to use too

[fiery burrow]

Have they patched Shield Block Reset

[uneven vault]

idk

they fixed most things after the debacle of 1.20 adding more bugs

💀

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-choso-jjk-choso-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-10037971888755283102

[fiery burrow]

Cant find anything on it so Ill assume its still possible

[uneven vault]

i think horse glitches still work

[fiery burrow]

Ill never forgive them patching TCR though

[uneven vault]

what’s tcr

[opaque sigil]

I do miss the bomb launches from botw

[fiery burrow]

Thunder Clap Rush, basically just forcing a flurry rush from bullet time

[coarse leaf]

touching cats repeatedly

[uneven vault]

that’s not a bug that’s a feature (still can’t pet the dogs 0/10)

[fiery burrow]

[opaque sigil]

you can feed the dogs and that's good enough

[coarse leaf]

i can appreciate them letting you stare into the dogs eyes for like 20 seconds to make it like you more

[fiery burrow]

If only thats how it worked irl 😔

[opaque sigil]

it is how it works irl have you ever given a dog food

[weary tapir]

greatsword is funny

4 hits 900 damage

[uneven vault]

cats hate that irl but dogs chill like that

[fiery burrow]

My dog does NOT show my treasure every time I feed it

[opaque sigil]

damn your dog is broken ig

[uneven vault]

uh train your dog better

[coarse leaf]

dont dogs usually hate if you do this irl nintendo is trying to trick children into getting mauled by dogs

[fiery burrow]

It also needs more affection than granting it basic necessities

[uneven vault]

sounds like a w to me

[fiery burrow]

Eye contact can be threatening or liked by dogs I think

Depends on your vibes and the dog

[coarse leaf]

if a dog likes you i think they generally take eye contact as something more affectionate

esp if youre doing baby talk at them while you make eye contact

[uneven vault]

sidon simps also didn’t like that he got a wife in tears

[opaque sigil]

it can be a sort of authoritative thing but it isn't always and I wouldn't call it a threat

[fiery burrow]

Yona is far cooler than link anyways

[coarse leaf]

its sort of the same with cats but its more obvious when its affectionate from them because of the slow blink thing

[opaque sigil]

sidon was too hot to stay single it was always going to happen

[coarse leaf]

making eye contact w a cat and getting the slow blink is always an awesome feeling

[uneven vault]

cats also kill you if you over eye contact

[uneven vault]

link got best friend zoned 😔

[fiery burrow]

Nintendo does not have the balls to make link gay

[coarse leaf]

fuck you im a sidon simp and im not angry

he deserves the best

my king

[uneven vault]

well i think things point to him and zelda being a thing apparently

[fiery burrow]

Zelink was heavily hinted at in BoTW yeah

[coarse leaf]

i think id rather they keep his sexuality ambiguous lol

[fiery burrow]

Well, Zelda loves Link, not sure if he feels the other way around

[uneven vault]

sexuality doesn’t matter cause he’s just supposed to be the player

[uneven vault]

i mean zelda stole his house 🤬

[coarse leaf]

link having any gender preference feels strange to me mainly because no matter how many centuries old he gets hell always be a whole child in my mind

[fiery burrow]

Im fairly certain they're living together lol

[marsh ibex]

Considering how much personality his dialogue boxes and animations have in BOTW that most likely isn’t the case anymore

and it seems pretty reciprocated

[uneven vault]

well yes he’s zelda’s protector but the game calls it zelda’s house

[fiery burrow]

Yes and he's a sarcastic little goober

[coarse leaf]

you have dialogue options in botw and totk

[uneven vault]

he has options to say things but not full on dialogue

no voice acted

[fiery burrow]

Not yet...

[coarse leaf]

if link ever gets full voice acting ill cry and not in a good way

[fiery burrow]

First it was Ganondorf, next its link

[coarse leaf]

that would ruin him

[fiery burrow]

Meh

[uneven vault]

i love botw adding the … option at the start then forcing you to talk after the old man talks about rhe paraglider

[fiery burrow]

Its a voice and he's already vocalized a lot in previous titles

He also full on says words in Wind Waker

[coarse leaf]

i mean grunts and yells are different from him speaking full sentences

that would just be weird

[fiery burrow]

His sentences are already fairly short anyways lol

[uneven vault]

important

[coarse leaf]

link also had some good personality in skyward sword from my memory

[uneven vault]

his excited grunt when you cook is cool

[coarse leaf]

mostly through facial expressions

hes a sassy little shit in skyward sword

[uneven vault]

he’s technically always had dialogue you just didn’t know what it was people don’t just start talking to you when you walk up to them

[fiery burrow]

Just like The Knight

[coarse leaf]

link having fully voiced dialogue would get into legend of zelda cartoon territory and thats not the link i want

[uneven vault]

uh prob not knight has no mouth or implied dialogue unlike link

[coarse leaf]

excuuuuuse me princess

[fiery burrow]

The Knight may have a mouth, its unclear

[coarse leaf]

characters literally directly reference the fact the knight never speaks in the game

[fiery burrow]

I was however joking

I dont think the knight talks

[uneven vault]

i’ve seen you in lore and i trust nobody in there

[coarse leaf]

excuuuuuuuuuuse me princess

[fiery burrow]

OK I guess

[coarse leaf]

honestly thinking about it link has always been a sassy little shit in every piece of media

[uneven vault]

link is just sigma patrick bateman he doesn’t need to speak very much

[fiery burrow]

Thats why he's so awesome

[acoustic maple]

the pale king has a mouth right? so it would probably be inherited by the knight? maybe cuz it hasn't learned how to speak? idk

[uneven vault]

he has the courage to be an ass and still fucking survive zelda

[acoustic maple]

what is the biology of hollow knight

[fiery burrow]

Pale King is implied to speak through soul

[shell yacht]

missing facial features are artistic choice

[coarse leaf]

him running away from saria at the start of OoT after she gives him the first basic ocarina will always be stuck in my mind

[shell yacht]

[uneven vault]

inheritance prob doesn’t matter for vessels

[fiery burrow]

[uneven vault]

vessels having the ability to speak would go against the pale king’s wishes

[shell yacht]

weve had a genetic trait discussion several timesactually

[fiery burrow]

So does them having free will and thinking

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/saria-ocarina-of-time-nintendo-3ds-kokiri-forest-gif-15861903054524914836

[fiery burrow]

And yet

[uneven vault]

you can’t remove a brain

[shell yacht]

varried headshape thanks to WL etc

[uneven vault]

she don’t know how to handle his ass

[fiery burrow]

You cant remove the ability to vocalize either, not sure how that would work

[shell yacht]

this chat is proof otherwise

[uneven vault]

yeah cause this isn’t lore channel

[coarse leaf]

ill remove your brain

yeah speechless huh

no comeback huh

[fiery burrow]

The vessels weren't artificial constructs nor were they altered beyond the void in their insides

[weary tapir]

that was fast….

[shell yacht]

i was letting blues comment sink in... for the funny

[uneven vault]

also oot states that link goes to speak with the king after the events of the final boss and exposes ganondorf

[fiery burrow]

Its over

[weary tapir]

The first one wasn’t even that good I’ll say it

[fiery burrow]

Mascot Horror has been deemed profitable in the movie industry and now we will never see the end of it

[coarse leaf]

then he goes to a totally different kingdom to get tormented by two different fairies that HATE him and prevent some fucked up little wood boy from crashing the moon into the earth

[uneven vault]

you could think the same of disney remakes but that is no longer the case

[fiery burrow]

Disney remakes are still being made

[uneven vault]

but they don’t make money disney has lost money this year

[coarse leaf]

the vibes of majoras mask on the n64/gamecube will always be fucking immaculate

the 3ds port kind of ruins them

[opaque sigil]

fnaf has the name recognition to make money on mid movies

[shell yacht]

i mean, its not new, extreemly cheesy chuckee cheese lookin horror isnt new.
hell a movie about a vengefull tire got a sequel. yes a tire, like for a car, killing people

[weary tapir]

The first FNAF movie was not a good movie I will stand by this

[uneven vault]

imagine if majoras mask actually had a 7 day cycle like it was going to with the disk drive expansion

[coarse leaf]

never has a game made for children made me feel more unsettled while playing it

[opaque sigil]

time loop games need to keep the clock short and sweet

[coarse leaf]

majoras mask is borderline a horror game for@me

[weary tapir]

That game is freaky as hell

[uneven vault]

it was going to be 7 but limitations of hardware made it 3 so you could say it was for the better but

it’s still something that happened to in the works

[weary tapir]

The scariest part is just all the people saying their last words and the things they do on the night of the third day…

Oh my lord.

[fiery burrow]

True

[coarse leaf]

even the designs of the giants that help you save the fucking world at the end are so scary

[weary tapir]

Some of the things in that game are fucked

[coarse leaf]

they look freaky as hell and make weird-ass sounds

[uneven vault]

you have to wear the masks of dead people

[weary tapir]

An older sister lets her younger sister get drunk so she doesn’t realize she’s about to die

How messed up is that

[fiery burrow]

That whole alien sidequest was super creepy

[shell yacht]

[uneven vault]

you also have to act as those people for side quests with others being none the wiser

[coarse leaf]

the aliens were straight up just the flatwoods monster

[weary tapir]

A marriage ceremony is held mere moments before the fucking world ends

[uneven vault]

you are straight up impersonating dead people

[weary tapir]

like idk that game is so dark

[coarse leaf]

ocarina of time imo hasnt aged amazingly but something about majoras mask just still works to this day

[uneven vault]

and you also like turn back time so if you beat the game even with all masks some events never happen

[coarse leaf]

i cant quite put my finger on what it is thats different

[uneven vault]

so some people never get to be happy

[weary tapir]

Ocarina of time will forever be the most timeless video game ever for me

I think it’s something every person should play at least once if they like video games

[uneven vault]

majora was made in a year i believe on oot’s engine

[coarse leaf]

ocarina of time is totally still worth playing i just think it hasnt aged as well as majoras mask

[weary tapir]

It was made in a year and the time mechanic was straight up pulled from another game that was gonna be made

[coarse leaf]

im a little biased because majoras mask was my first LoZ game too

[weary tapir]

The 3DS version is fine for modern players

[uneven vault]

i played the 3ds versions i don’t think there’s a major problem with the ports

[coarse leaf]

i think the 3ds version totally botches some of the tone of the game though

[weary tapir]

The 3DS version of majora does

[coarse leaf]

like its functionally fine

[weary tapir]

Not oot

imo

[coarse leaf]

oh

yeah thats true

[weary tapir]

ocarina of time 3D is like probably objectively the best way to experience oot

[coarse leaf]

theres a couple things like the death hand that oot’s 3ds port kind of fucks up tonally

but overall its fine

[uneven vault]

oot is like hd oot but not hd cause it’s on a 3ds the models are very well made and graphics great

[weary tapir]

But I will always play the n64 version of oot

On my n64

[uneven vault]

i don’t have an n64 so the 3ds was the way for me to play it

[weary tapir]

Old 3D zelda > botw era zelda

[uneven vault]

that’s how i see it you play with what you have

[weary tapir]

Sorry hate to be that guy

twilight princess is my favorite game ever ever ever

[coarse leaf]

the death hand would have sent me into a fucking coma if i played oot as a child

why was that in a childrens game

[weary tapir]

Unspeakable horrors beyond my child comprehension

[uneven vault]

you’re not really if there was a really long classic zelda i would be in love

[chilly nexus]

OoT is a game that I understand when people say it's the goat

like i have no opposing arguments it's just "I see that"

[weary tapir]

It made video games what they are today literally

[coarse leaf]

im pretty sure it was the first 3d action rpg right

[weary tapir]

Like without it games would not be even close to the same

[coarse leaf]

its one of those medium-defining games

[weary tapir]

hyrule field for it’s time was insane

the idea of a seamless world like that was crazy

[uneven vault]

classic zelda dungeons are 1000% better and you have notice to go to them

[coarse leaf]

crazy how ocarina of time is indirectly responsible for elden ring

[weary tapir]

I want a modern really long classic 3D styled Zelda game

[uneven vault]

it has flowing day and night cycle

like yes it was a few minutes but still

[weary tapir]

Imagine what we could do with a new classic style 3D Zelda with modern hardware

[chilly nexus]

I would LOVE this, like a dark souls with more puzzles

[weary tapir]

Think about it.

[chilly nexus]

and TOOLS

I miss tools in zelda games

[weary tapir]

Yeah linear to a point but open ish

[chilly nexus]

gimme that hookshot

[weary tapir]

I think it would be so good and we did the whole open world thing

[coarse leaf]

as much as i think theres massive potential to do even more crazy shit with the open world LoZ format going back to a more linear format with a new entry would be nice

[chilly nexus]

gimme things that open the world

[uneven vault]

whenever i get a new classic zelda im addicted for days the puzzles just feel so nice they don’t feel the same in botw/totk

[weary tapir]

I don’t want to stay open world I think it was good the 2 times we did it

[chilly nexus]

ye we've had a good open world era

[weary tapir]

But I want to go back and have like twilight princess but like insanely long

[chilly nexus]

imo it started with Skyrim

and it's been a good decade ish

[uneven vault]

giving all tools so early just gives progression kinda nothing

[chilly nexus]

back to confined defined games now

[coarse leaf]

i need my twilight princess and wind waker switch port where the fuck are they nintendo

[uneven vault]

on the wii u

[coarse leaf]

people have literally been asking for these since the switch launched where are they

[weary tapir]

I hate that I have to say “classic 3D Zelda” and not “classic zelda” because classic zelda is top down

[chilly nexus]

TP plays so well on the wii u

[weary tapir]

So confusing

[coarse leaf]

oh yeah the wii u that no longer has a digital store

[uneven vault]

classic zelda is so nice too

[chilly nexus]

hate? na it's a privilege that all are so good they're both classic

[weary tapir]

Twilight princess will forever be my favorite game of all time

[uneven vault]

they’ve done modern top down and i think it works too

[weary tapir]

I love top down zelda too it’s so fun

[chilly nexus]

I love zelda 2 too tbh

[weary tapir]

Links awakening remake is one of my favorite zelda games actually

[coarse leaf]

twilight princess is awesome but visually it kind of suffers from the brown filter that every triple a game from that era had for some reason

[weary tapir]

Genuinely

[uneven vault]

yes

[coarse leaf]

what was up with that

[chilly nexus]

I like to the og LA

[uneven vault]

twilight princess i never played on wii so i loved that

[weary tapir]

I played every version of that game

[uneven vault]

also skyward sword hd was amazing

[weary tapir]

I even played links crossbow training

[chilly nexus]

SS is the one game I haven't played

[opaque sigil]

Eh it kind of made sense for tp

[uneven vault]

blame the people who complained about wind water

[weary tapir]

Careful with that abbreviation in this server

I know you mean skyward sword

[chilly nexus]

Skyward Sword* lol ye I realized :p

[weary tapir]

But yeah

[coarse leaf]

i just think its a really ugly color pallet, you can give something a dark tone without putting a filter that makes it look like youre drowning in sewer water over everything

[weary tapir]

Skyward sword was alright but the sky over world kinda sucked

[inland ravine]

yo everyone

[uneven vault]

skyward sword is a modern 3d zelda done well though twilight princess may be better with actually exploring

[uneven vault]

fair but i liked the character interactions

[chilly nexus]

yo's back like the toy

[weary tapir]

Kakariko in twilight princess is so fun it’s like an old western town and I LOVE the vibe

[coarse leaf]

skyward sword was so overhated for its time, granted it was more warranted when the only way to play it was using wii’s not-so-good motion controls

[weary tapir]

The music fit with it too

[inland ravine]

dr

[chilly nexus]

Majora's Mask had great music

I love the song of healing

[uneven vault]

twilight has great music yes

[weary tapir]

https://youtu.be/jkL1sJjwQlI?si=1xdzDlTR_o-1WUio this game was a fuckin western Zelda game

[charred surge]

typo in da group chat

[weary tapir]

It’s like the cowboy era of Zelda

[uneven vault]

zelda is always top tier music

[coarse leaf]

i just really want twilight princess and wind waker on the switch i dont understand why nintendo hasnt done it yet

[uneven vault]

i don’t see them doing it now it’s late in the life cycle of the system

[charred surge]

Imagine mentioning TP being the western Zelda game and not even posting the Hidden Village theme smh

[weary tapir]

The fact they did not do a oot mm ww and TP bundle for Zelda’s anniversery will forever perplex me

[weary tapir]

I was literally about to send it

[uneven vault]

uh they like money

[weary tapir]

I’m not kidding 😭

[coarse leaf]

theyve isolated oot and mm to the lame expansion pass thing

[chilly nexus]

the way that MM and WW are both zelda acronyms is so funny to me

[uneven vault]

would never give a collection that big

[barren scarab]

im just lost

[coarse leaf]

i mean they did it with mario

[weary tapir]

This song is awesome https://youtu.be/e3s39EvaqEY?si=do2GlXe6FkaEtQNy

YEEEEE HAW

[uneven vault]

3 mario games is alright yeah but 4 zelda games is a ton of content

[weary tapir]

also also I am about to say something crazy

[inland ravine]

😭 i-

[weary tapir]

I loved wolf link

[charred surge]

Certified banger

[weary tapir]

He was such a good boy and fun to play it reminded me of okami

[coarse leaf]

thats not crazy the gameplay there was fun

[weary tapir]

Twilight princess is literally 50% okami

No joke

[coarse leaf]

once you get to switch between the two is when the gameplay in twilight princess really kicks off lol

[charred surge]

Breaking news : spoon found in kitchen

[coarse leaf]

i wouldnt say thats controversial at all yeah

[barren scarab]

i feel bad should i say yes

[weary tapir]

I remember at launch wolf link was the biggest complaint of the game

[warped nacelle]

y'know back then I had zelda tp on wii and sonic unleashed on xbox

[uneven vault]

master sword was so hype in twilight princess lol

[warped nacelle]

it was fire

[barren scarab]

has it been far too long

[weary tapir]

and I was like WHY

[coarse leaf]

thats just internet people being weird and hating something because its unique

[inland ravine]

game are fun tho but... maybe no?

[barren scarab]

I'd do that

[weary tapir]

Midna was also the best traveling companion

[uneven vault]

honestly i get werehog complaints more than wolf link

[weary tapir]

She was so awesome

midna my favorite Zelda character

[barren scarab]

Well he did specify this game was fun specifically..

[charred surge]

Simply never engage with the wider audience on popular games

[warped nacelle]

You nkw o

my cat

hlep

[uneven vault]

oh

moss died to cat

[inland ravine]

okay maybe say yes

[weary tapir]

My biggest complaint with twilight princess is a very specific thing.

[barren scarab]

Nah what if its a virus

What if he hacks me and says evil stuff

[warped nacelle]

You know I never looked up that kinda stuff so I barely ever seen hate towards wolf link or that sonic game

[barren scarab]

like EVIL stuff!

Like "Have a bad day" or something

[warped nacelle]

So I just remember them as good games

[weary tapir]

https://youtu.be/137YvPWp0jI?si=9cFbTFjJQGfgMC7g who the fuck. Thought it was a good idea. To let the enemy music play over this song in the scene it plays

[inland ravine]

yep that's what i thought

[weary tapir]

WHO THOUGHT. THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA

[barren scarab]

yeah its gonna be sad

[coarse leaf]

twilight princess has one of my favorite osts of any loz game

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

[barren scarab]

and there's 15 damn mods online there's no way he'll get away saying that on my account

[coarse leaf]

theres like some borderline breakcore shit in there it goes hard

[charred surge]

Would it be an actual hot take to say that I actually kinda like Fi from Skyward Sword; maybe it’s another cold take but I remember people hating Fi for some reason (granted the low battery messages weren’t totally appreciated but I think that’s aside from the character herself)

[warped nacelle]

I replayed zelda tp on pc years ago and I didn't have any problem with it

I just think it's neat

[barren scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-nothing-we-can-do-nothing-we-can-do-there-is-gif-17017334091191129728

[weary tapir]

This is the most important part of the game. This song is beautiful. And you can only ever hear it for fuckin TEN SECONDS. before you hear the damn combat music

[uneven vault]

should just put new batteries in your remote then

[inland ravine]

there's nothing we can do

[weary tapir]

GRAHHHHHHH why why

And they didn’t fix it in the remake!!!!

[coarse leaf]

my one and only complaint with it is the color pallet

[weary tapir]

it still does it!

[barren scarab]

🥹

[inland ravine]

🫂 it's okay dw

[coarse leaf]

i dont even think the slow-burn intro is that bad like people always say it is

[warped nacelle]

OH YEAH

zelda tp is SOO bright holy shit

[uneven vault]

too bright needs to be darker

[weary tapir]

I love that we actually get to see links life!!!

like that’s so fun

[barren scarab]

i will miss the short mf napoleon

[charred surge]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-explode-gif-25528415

[coarse leaf]

the issue for me is more the brown filter over everything that every dark-toned triple a game from that era had

[uneven vault]

slow intro only sucks for repeat playthrough

[inland ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[weary tapir]

I don’t even mind it I like catching the fishy for the cat and hearing the silly music

[barren scarab]

i miss having a drink with napoleon

[barren scarab]

cat

[uneven vault]

i’ve never done a repeat playthrough so i can’t tell you

[cinder hatch]

yes

[barren scarab]

i make you an offer

[warped nacelle]

hmmm I'd need to watch gameplay again but I think I see what you mean

[barren scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/sharko-deepwoken-sharko-deepwoken-megalodaunt-the-deep-is-calling-gif-3078545919423873116

[weary tapir]

also the first temple is a banger that hooks you

[weary tapir]

MONKEY TEMPLE

[barren scarab]

take fish. feed cat.
you get xp. cat gets full tummy.

[warped nacelle]

Also I've been reading a bunch of dandadan

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/legend-of-zelda-link-twilight-princess-me-at-parties-dog-gif-16431828

[weary tapir]

I LOVE MONKE TEMPLE

[charred surge]

Perhaps in a tongue-in-cheek nod to its namesake, the Napoleon is a squat frame in comparison to other Harrison Armory designs. Its frame is packed with marvels of Armory engineering – technology that demands nothing less than the best and brightest pilots. In spite of its small stature, the Napoleon employs one of the Armory’s most terrifying new weapons, the Displacer, which manifests pinpoint, one-way blinkspace ruptures on its targets.
Notable for more than its stature, this chassis boasts a tremendous record of success, with pilots reporting a .800 return rate in high-KIA operations. The Napoleon is a popular chassis among breach divisions of the Armory’s legions, Think Tank security, and Union Economic Bureau development teams.

[barren scarab]

why is it so bright what the fuck

[coarse leaf]

how are you liking it so far

[uneven vault]

you can actually interact with animals in the game

[barren scarab]

🥹

[inland ravine]

idk why but it scares me seeing this style

[warped nacelle]

rn I'm at the moment where the spirit gets in the cat statue

[weary tapir]

The fact totk did not let you pet dogs is why it will not win game of the year

I’ll say it.

[warped nacelle]

It's very fun

[uneven vault]

it shouldn’t anyways it has a lot of flaws but i guess most games this year do

[weary tapir]

Idk I loved totk I think the sandbox is the most fun I’ve had in a game since botw genuinely

Doing dumb shit was so fun

[charred surge]

I was thinking of maybe totk one day but now I will NEVER buy it, trash game, 0/10, worst game of the year

[weary tapir]

Yeah you can’t pet the dogs

That was the first thing I tried when I got out of the tutorial genuinely

[uneven vault]

[weary tapir]

You land next to a stable I saw a dog and I was like “HEY”

[uneven vault]

big mistake

[weary tapir]

And I ran over and I couldn’t pet it

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-link-twilight-princess-willem-dafoe-gif-gif-27286568

what is this

william dafoe in twilight princess?

[inland ravine]

CHAD FACE

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

he is indeed a chad

[shell yacht]

Zelda in BOTW/TOTK
"Im something of a scientist myself"

[inland ravine]

hey powder

[obsidian juniper]

Hi

[inland ravine]

hey there

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-peach-princess-zelda-smash-bros-brawl-willem-dafoe-gif-27286594

there’s more what the hell

[inland ravine]

WHAT IS PEACH DOING HERE

[uneven vault]

it’s smash bros brawl

[inland ravine]

ah

[weary tapir]

the king would like to have a word about your “science experiments” Zelda

[lone lichen]

yeah that's a cutscene from the start of subspace emissary

[shell yacht]

howdy

who is this leaf

[uneven vault]

i mean it’s zelda’s fault if we go by age of calamity

with terrako and all

[weary tapir]

All I’m sayin is if the king just let his daughter do some fun little science experiments maybe she would’ve gotten her sealing powers faster

[inland ravine]

i'm leafy from a youtube show from bfdi (jk i'm gwnj)

[obsidian juniper]

How Is it going?
Im back here after a long time

[inland ravine]

well wbu

[heady iron]

Glad it's not another youtuber named leafy

[shell yacht]

whats a gwenge

[obsidian juniper]

Fine
Chilling before going to sleep

[inland ravine]

:)

[coarse leaf]

he acknowledges himself that the way he treated her ambitions was a major fuck-up on his part

[weary tapir]

Yeah he was an ass

[uneven vault]

age of calamity’s ending is alt reality with time traveling terrako but yes blaming zelda for making the first terrako is funny

[coarse leaf]

but after its already too late