#sk-discussion
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no silksong up until now?
robocop gaem
Robocop more like robocope
insane

The things literally called SS discussion silk song discussion
skreeleelee
fnaf lame
please minimod the moderator
that always ends well
We need a Xbox port for Talking Ben 
true…
“will please fans”
the fuck
Give him admin role
Don't make me grime you
can someone tell me what is ASA and why everyone spams it in ytb chat
Note taken I’ll be sure to do that in the future
What are we gonna do, talk about a game that hasn't come out yet?
ark survival ascended
It’s the ark sequel
I love LYING
Want us to talk about each individual frame?
A Silksong Announcement
oh alright
new fnaf games suck though 😔
Joker your character is looking for a loved one in different planes right
Imagine silksong at the Xbox event
oh it’s like those cel shaded games
Steel soul discussion
yuh
Bro she has defined cheekbones
What species
insane
WAIT REALLY?
LOLLLLLL THE CHAT IS FLOODED
Yes talk about like what you hope to expect talk about the ads and beta
Haven’t thought of it yet
Lame
Nah it's ark survival ascended
spidersss
there is no beta
What ads
Ark fans are insufferable today
Demo, not beta
Ohhhhhh
I lied, I have no idea what Asa is
you are a Hollow Knight fan
You ain’t got no room to talk
Have you not looked at the news the hollow Knight and silk song news yeah clearly not a true fan
?psa
her sword reminds me of the transistor thing
oh shit wrong one
ALEX YIIK
I need a reason for my character to be in the party so I was wondering if I could just like, be related to you
this is ss discussion daud
YIIK
I'm surprised by how patient the silksongers are compared to the ark fans
I KNOW
I did the wrong one
ITS ALEX YIIK HOLY SHIT
man why are games still doing text bubble speech its 2023
WAIT ALEX YIIK? WHERE!?
what
oh an i behind
DID WE GET THE YIIK SEQUEL
they lost hope so it's fine
He's fucking dead I genuinely am at a loss for what to do with him 😭
I prefer the ASA spam to the 🤡 spam tbh
Thank you this is what happens saying for the past three minutes
As a stylistic choice
powdered when not all devs can afford voice actors
what
Idk the only ark fan I've ever met is annoying so it might just be me but clowns were funnier
?tag offtopic
#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.
New guy
stop whining.
WHAT I WANT THIS GANE
To keep illiterate people from playing their games
just have the same guy do 47 voices
Fearless Fox !!
Fearless fox guys
I love arson I love burning down government buildings
too many words
Its 2 sentences
If you want to talk about off topic things go to the off topic discussion the littrle off topic discussion
too many words
whats it showing rn? i see foxgame2
spirit of the north
no
you're new here right?
2?????
you trying to argue with the literal rules of the server?
wow
new member moment
You are allowed to go off topic here
Stop minimodding
it’s annoying
also people are talking about an event we're watching
I hope the ark news is really brief
Kill them
It’s showing zone boat
Thank you at least someone agrees with me
That sentence had too many syllables, apologize!
Kill instantly
(i don’t agree with you)
they are disagreeing with you dude
what?
I'd post the "Im new here say hi" speechbubble but I joined today 
METAL GEAR
MGS 3 wtf
stop arguing or ill mute you
rejoined today
Metal gear fans when wooden cog fans walk in
I have a total of 160 messages here 
Me and him have the same point
At least half of them were today 
same thing
featuring Gas Snake
plasma snake
no we don’t
his point is “stop arguing against the rules” which you are currently doing
Einsteinium Snake
Arguing against the rules
Dude, fart?
Snake eater fans when they find out that people don't often eat snakes 
they DONT?
I will arguing with the rules not against them
Snakes are eaten more often than you think
why eat snake when you can pet
semantics, and not even right
Hungry
first of all, he doesn't
second, you are arguing with a mod and people who have been regulars here for years
I'm pretty sure they know more than you
That surprises me
ok they gone, back to normal ss discussion
anyway
Grease
what event is even happening rn
HORSE

HORSE???
town sim?
WHERE HORSE??
horse gone
Risk of Rain: Returns release date reveal
this is clash of clans 2
only if silksong fans were as persistent as these "asa" fans...
spore tribal stage 
did they give a title already
we were
damn everyone just really like dinosaurs
have you seen any other gaming events
please no
yeah lol
YOOO a game on my birthday!?!
How cope is this one guys
you think ttacco's gonna love that one
nah
no polearms
is this one fortnite
yea
Valorant
AYO MARATHON??
This is call of duty
game looks neat
Yeah, people in this server wouldn't know what that is 
honestly yeah
No silksong right?
No
WAIT IM IN CLASS iS IT MARATHON
do you see a ping in #hk-announcements
Hi guys, did Silksong appear yet?
No?
no window its
Then you have your answer
I'm fartnite
Yes
uhh its money fighting
There’s ark
its not marathon
damn...
Less GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
damn
damn
Haha I lied dumdum
its the other extraction shooter
The finals?
with cubes
shoot and get money and the bodies turn into money and the environment can be destroyed big stadium guns
I HATE FINALS
holy shit rock in wrist
Minecraft sheep sound???
holy shit that looks like Ark
I wish I had a rock in my wrist
No silksong
Idk man i'm going insane
Sorry
It is ark lol

see? they got what they wanted
Dollar tree ark
finally
nice sheep sfx
it was confirmed prior to this event it was gonna be there
vin deisel when
Silksong in twelve seconds
bruh they were acting as if it wasn't
Silksong now
*19
this game is cute, hopefully its just what ark fans were lookin for
fizz
Don’t call me that.
ok
Why not? scared you'll blush?
oh it's ark
Fortnite 2?
it reminds me of them
Omg
Bruh, the starting beat sounded like silksong
Its the guy from fortnite
🎻
There is a lack of silk in these songs
what does that even mean
keanu??
how much time until we take off the clown set
2 more min
haha
thx
get it guys
they said clown
because no silksong
funny!!!!
yup just gonna grab that beating heart with my bare hands
ark just got coming sooned
hopium or copium today?
well you aren’t you when you’re hungry
Guys look it's the Silksong
thinking it's hopium is copium
yeah that was a good trailer
Alan wake fans when they have to sleep
Doomium
shut up fucker
A mix of the two
stupuid
fight back cassian andor
Dude
I wish I had my legs be another person’s head
Always copium
Any SS news?
ANY SILKSONG YET.
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
Yes
But also not at all
no
i am always fighting
damn the chat got 50 percent slower after asa announcement
any further inquiries on silksong will lead to incremental 5 second increases for slowmode
yep that trailer from years ago 
Oh the new guy got muted
So aggressive 
Any Silksong? 
we can get slow mode up to a week guys, have faith
Please 10 second slowmode, chat is too fast for my tiny brain 
Silksong taking over lol
how is silksong?
Yes PLEASE 😋
Fuck you
wait is something happening
No
Yeah hating on Nox
i love noxie
i am happening
I don't
lights effects are cool
she just has shitty ds control opinions
I hate everyone in this chat except Pawf
I don’t
that was it boys. goodnight.
At least take me to dinner first jesus, so forward
F
No silksongs
🤡
did anything cool appear

i didn't know this was even happening
uhh Like a Dragon
some north game
No silksong by bu
Ok fuck y'all I have to do math
and the new ark game
no news
yoooo i gotta peak
No Silksong, The Game Awards for sure!
and the alan wake 2 footage was neat imo
Let's goo
there was like 7 games wtf
its over now annie
yep
we are clowns!
🤡
Classic
Mister Chef!
okay ty wombat nearly doxxed you
lol yea
ghhh Silksong Silksong Silksong!! Please.. SilksongSilksongAghhhhAGHHHHSilksong
have a good day everyone
no only ER dlc at tga
I should've expected
thought TC said Silksong would be shown by TC themselves next time
bye bye
11 games
good day
When is this game coming out 😭😭
stop
spotted 😂
aka never

do you really expect us to know
oh no we're doomed now! I just watched xbox's thing and there was no silksong trailer.
Yes
time to get food
Wait doesn't this mean silksong news could be any day 
Your biggest opps are usually your greatest friends 
IT IS OVER??
its actually joever
where is the ark 2 gameplay
where is silksong
I'm about to eat the pizziest pizza of my life
no it just started (the clown show)
As it has been for ages, my money is still on tga as a holiday release
I guess silksong will be released in 2024.
Gone... Reduced to atoms.
share smh
hustlers must watch
I have it, but you can't
This game is not real
I already accepted
🍕
Guys... TGA is our hope, right...?
No lol
Silksong goes to another school
Okay but we may get It at the Game awards
Welp, time to move over to the RoRR stream
nope
It's happening at tga, that's been my stance for a while now

It's our doom
No
risk of rain rain rain?
The game awards game awards
how many years has SS been in development?
Rick of rain is back
Rain of rain rain rain
tc says they will show it themselves, most likely will not be at any events. now go play a fun little game in the meantime like pikmin 4 or lies of p
I mistyped 
Rixk of rein returns
RICK OF RAIN RETURNS ON NOVEMBER 8TH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, see you next time there's an event chat 👋
Aghhhhh!! !aGHHHHHHHHH
Guess it's back to Warframe
“Fun”
5 ig
shut the fuck up annoying ass
Yooooo
I’m not even annoyed still wow
or FINAL FANTASY 14 THE CRITCALLY ACCLAIM-
not ypu joker youre cool
that's actually enough for a high schooler to graduate and do their first year in collage...
who de hell are you
So we have 0 clues, damn
yeah so chill
Chat, will we get Silksong or Nuclear annihilation first
always did
which do you think
we'll get a cat pretending to be the hollow knight first.
Yes
She's Cassian Andor
I thought that was pretty obvious
so what do i do with my life now
Play RoRR
Play RoRR
risk of rain rain?
Make a DSN video and fuel the alcoholism
fellow ror fan lfg
i don't want to play any games that feature ukuleles, such as ror or outer wilds
why is the slowmode longer than the amount of people here
Play RoRR, coming November 8th for $12.75!
Play I Love You, Colonel Sanders: A Finger Lickin' Good Dating Simulator
True!
i know it's a very weird hill to die on but trust me i just can't like it
What if silksong has ukulele?
it has a ukelele
is RoRR: Rare omurise Rawr Rhinosaurus?
it does
it won't it already has a violin
Sad!
no its something better than Rare omurise Rawr Rhinosaurus
bruh its not even ark 2 its a remake of ark 1 whats the fucking point 😭
I've never played an Ark game tbh
same
all the hype for a remake? lol those fans are a joke
ok then is it... Risk of Rawring Renumeration?
couldn't you get tied up in Ark? Now with better graphics?
its something more like what league of legends are not able to experience
ok then I'm just gonna call it Rafflefruit's overflowing Regenerative Relishes.
close... not
Bro i was in 5th grade when the game was announced
Now i'm going to high school
yeah that's wild...
how about Ron's over-boisterous Reancting Revenge?
that's cool grimm pfp

I can't wait 
silksong waiters should make a sadge meme song like "I got a qiqi" but silksong style lol
apparently handcuffs were in the game
Yeah it'll be discounted to $12.75
him.
Evening, Silksong game discussions.
oh? No longer new with the fucking "new member" Badge, i am going to eat who bullied me for it
it is afternoon in the best and correct timezone
yeah gmt+2 is cool
what if I kicked you for it
So then you rejoined and you got the badge again
what if I eat you before that
take him out to dinner firs-wait
if you eat something that just ate something are you actually eating both?
Philosophy
can't say no to extra food
ooooooooh....
average i am actually eating light enjoyer
is air actually tasteless or are we just so used to it's flavour that we don't notice?
hello everyone
memeline
this is not how you begin a conversation what the fuck
yes it is
WHERE WE DROPPING BOYS
TGA stage
Jonny !
jonny did you see the rorr?
RoR Returns release date dropped
what do you think my message was a reference to? 
i was just making sure :)
my first vengeful spirit skip
really cool character
vengeful fly photobombing
Risk of Rain: Returns on November 8th exactly 10 years after the original, god bless the lord
And Console DLC the same day
Festival of Gup
Vinyl Returns music but with Ukulele USB

only 2 weeks 
wha
We are feasting tonight
vengefly* sorry mb
or a couple nights from now
I haven't watched much footage of Returns I want a blind experience
Only seen the trailer animation and it's very cool
just gonna say it will be peak
how did you know... :O
apparentluy every other videogame OST is "fire" and a "banger"
There are a lot of good video game OSTs yeah
you dont hear about the bad ones for obvious reasons
most arent bangers
Well idk I just like most (or many) of them
15 SECOND SLOWMODE 
doesnt mean they're "fire"
my opinion is righter
i can think of a game that doesnt have bangers, like yomi hustle
yeah that one or 99 floors
mfs listen to video game osts like this and still go "man this is soooo good"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXwpkxqqRCQ
Original file name is NA_41 - Random Gods
These songs can all be found in Rain World\Assets\Futile\Resources\Music\Songs
This song is also track 22 on the OST.
Songs created by Bright Primate (James Primate/Therrien & Lydia Esrig).
Uploaded with permission;
https://twitter.com/Regener808080/status/923313813675479040
Thank you
I don't know who made it tho
most games ost aren't good for sure but Chris Christdoulou is one that I love sooo yeah in my point of view that's high chances of an ost I'd like
Chris Christodoulou is actually an example of all bangers
yeah christodoulou is insanely good
It's one of the rare ost my friends enjoy even with absolutely 0 clues about the context of the games
Even my mom loves it lmao
2 other osts i really like that are pretty underrated are the ones from enderlilies and deaths door 
unironically that moment in rainworld is equal to darksouls' interconnecting map realization for me
death door peak
TRUE
also why is the chat cooldown 15 seconds
Outer wilds and katana zero kinda fits in that too
i had to deal with the stupud twitch player for like an hour just to see nothing in the stupid xbox show
I spent so much time ||scaling the wall|| just to be told ||to kill myself
||
lmao so real
So in 43 days?
why this made me laugh without context
Mfw this is one of my favorite songs in the ost
guh
Its like the auditory representation of ||the experience that pebbles is going through ig||
I dont think its very pleasing to listen to though
wsg ss chat
Has the Xbox showcase happened yet
yes
Yep, no silksong
Dang not a surprise
In other news the sky is still up and blue
you know it's rainworld when you ||eat all of a sentient robot's neurons because you were hungry and didn't know she didn't like that||
How do you not know
because I'm stupid
starpengu you're new 
lmao
It's also the auditory representation of thought. It's chaotic and incomprehensible, yet the sundown theme still makes it's way through as the single imperative thing you can understand about something so much more complex and you are
Also the sound design is very good
soapi I gave up on expert maps
||Pebbles really isnt wrong in calling himself godlike I suppose||
sorry maybe later
||Iterators|| are insane its nuts
new member laugh at this user
reminded me of myself, long ago (2 days)
it sounds like insanity to me tbh, with the main theme of the game serving as an underlying thread of despair for the hope of an answer that does not exist
How was the Silksong event chat
🤡 <- (self portrait)
That’s very poor makeup application you should redo that
dw I'll make sure not to change it before the next nintendo direct/xbox showcase
Just got rid off "System icon for new server members" today, im old now
OK gramps
Ok yeah counterpoint || https://youtu.be/HrKcrhx5EqU?si=ruOoA38iyP9hPbqQ || Major Saint spoilers
Original file name is RW_86 - The Cycle.
These songs can all be found in Rain World\RainWorld_Data\StreamingAssets\AssetBundles.
Songs created by various artists.
Artwork by AnnoyingFlower.
Uploaded with permission by Akupara Games.
Havent gotten to saint yet 
Oh yeah you’re on arti or something
Im on spearmaster
(is the music a spoiler? I haven't gone through saint yet but I kinda want to listen to the soundtrack)
Oh that would make sense
I beat arti - very fun campaign, but a ||mid ending/bossfight||
It’s definitely not the second to last bit of music you hear in the entire game
dually noted
I watched the RoRR reveal livestream instead 
Based
And was there silksong there
I was asleep so I missed both like a pro
Well you're not gonna believe this but...
Wait so does the ||lowest karma symbol|| represent Artis ||primal urge for violence?||
yeah they revealed that ass jim is actually the second playable character for the game who you unlock in new game +, it looks pretty sick
I think it’s officially called ||wrath|| so yeah
hmmm
Tbf the new survivor seems interesting
I can take a wild guess as to what the second to lowest karma symbol represents then 
Any silkers in chat
no
Yuh
Silksong released right?
Im a JackViner
did you do it for the vine
I think they did
i'm more of a songer myself if you see what i mean
I've come to respect songers a little bit
Silking is better obviously but songing is an art and I can respect that
Both lead to a world without hope for union between silk and song
Once silksong releases, we merge into the silksongers, just you wait
It will never happen, the prophecy demands it

No Union
Aside from the union of Hornet and Lace in holy matrimony
the great hk civil war is brewing, where brothers turn on brothers as silkers and songers fight over who can have the one single holy prerelease copy
like we will become silksongers, they will become horace
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
yesterday i songed until my voice ran out 
truly horrifying
if silkers and songers combine, then will come to exist 
(Hope your voice gets better soon
)
oedon bloodborne (real (god please help me I'm going insane))
any news? I'm at work I couldn't watch the stream
nope
no 😔
ohemgee who could have foretold this
rippp next time definitely though
yes! the news: ||your balls will explode now||
hi aya 
WHY
ommg hii CatScarf
aya u like omori right
very, Much
that is inspiring
wait why is slowmode 15 seconds xbox is over
iomor that's actually my minecraft username,
that's incredible
We will call it The Benji Heresy
is it eee omor or 👁️omor
Omori spotted
omori some emo ass game fr
hey guys i was busy have there been silksong news in the xbox live
nope
nope
🤯
i omor
i omor (i should play that game)
The Game Awards 100% (might kms)
Gotta love that pastel colored emo ass game fr fr
false, you are deserving of life
oh so you're joking about suicide
" Iomor"
if so, i need silksong.
shrue!
Reject omor, embrace
I want 90s anime Omori so bad
NO MORE PLEASE i BEG YOU
What the hell is this

if you do it - you never get silksong



me with the armadillo update
Hmmm... fax

epic
great explanation
epically heinous
mods can you turn slowmode down from 15 back to like 5 🥺
true i should ping them
wait slow mode is 15?
egg shaped animal? 
reeves
Sof
pengg
y e s
hello ss disc 
would prefer if mods went all the way just do 6 hours
hi
hi alula
tbf it would be really, really funny if everyone was forced to keep making new accounts in order to send messages lol
i drew a little guy (tw: horror)
hello agentla
spooky
nice work!
chat i'm going to art class today gib me smthn to draw
a "spider king" (like a rat king but instead of having their tails knotted together it's a bunch of spiders that can't untangle their legs)
draw yourself pipe bombing someone
her
ok fine mario or something 😡
:( fine i'll do spider king later
like me me or self-sona me
dw about it if you don't want to
where's she from?
Shimeji Simulation
oh peak
whichever
hiii jonny 
can you make slowmode faster
3dcluegrinfroglesseline
omori if it wasn't mid (j)
neon genesis omorgelion
bomb

bombs preexist
trueing
Have you achieved to Ara's post?
i ate the pipe, it bombed
sounds like something aya would say
what did pipe ever do to you
No, how do you know?!?!?!🤯
it bombed
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christodoulou is a real one for sure
hey friends, what's more popular:
golf or fortnite
golf
unironically idk. probably fortnite by a very slim margin would be my guess
yes
golf
golf
as someone who has played fortnite, golf
hey guys, quick question, what would you say is a fast time to beat absolute radiance on your first run?
they both suck though
Do you understand what the question means
how many people watch/partake in it?
I assume the RoR posts are cause of this
FINALLY
Console players eating good
FINALLY
I can play the good ror2
I could never get into ror2 tbh
idk why
it’s a game you play with friends
rick of rain is back
problem is it’s an expensive game for 3 or more peeps to buy
Why do Silksong prequel deniers never mention that she told the weapon smith that she doesn’t have her “usual” weapons. Meaning she would have had to have those tools in Hallownest when she didn’t in game
fair enough. I've only played it with another friend once lol
sometimes games just don’t click
Either way there really isn’t any explanation, sequel or not, which explains why Hornet doesnt have get SS toolkit except “she didn’t feel like using it”
Nah, prequels are cool man
they can be
nah it's because she's badass and wanted to do a no charm no tools steelsoul 5 mask run
Prequels are inherently more interesting because of the limitations set on them. Unlike sequels where it’s just “Do whatever you want from here”
i’d rather see Hornet from the game we know develop her character rather than have younger hornet just become the same hornet we know… which isn’t much
i want to see TC do whatever they want with an entirely new kingdom outside the only one we know
idk about that one bruv. there are some reaaaaaaally good sequels out there
yes?
Seeing her development will most likely add subtext to her character in Hollow Knight which recontextualizes a big part of the game for us
THEYRE GONNA MENTION BCS

but seeing her development in hollow knight recontextualizes any sequels that might come out in turn
but i don’t care i wanna see Hornet do new things
sorry
Hornet most likely will kill another goddess in Silksong, and then u think she's gonna be like that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsceyf1d9Ss&ab_channel=CuberKnight
Took me 7 days to optimize this fight
13.92s
12.14s
11.40s
11.34s
11.26s
10.97s
10.95s
And now I am redoing this TAS with fury only.
here is a bilibili link if you wanna see all the optimization of this fight: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hq4y1E7jj
There are explanations of this progress but in Chinese, lazy to translate it.
说明一下,压制小姐姐的跳跃...
i haven’t watched it that doesn’t effect me
From a creative standpoint, it is much interesting seeing writers work with limitations than to see them work without them. Like yeah making a landscape painting is cool, but making that same painting upside down with only your feet is much more cooler and interesting
Still applies
too bad
It’s a completely new location with different characters
yeah but the feet painting is shittier and looks awful, and when the artist has no preset limitations they can create more new and interesting limitations, such as having different rules for the world, location, and characters
yes
i would rather TC not limit themselves in writing
Hello fellow mainers
hello strange european man
Hru all
hanging in there by a thread :)
International Dourt of Custice
unless you're into feet I suppose
Sometimes it’s ok to not say things
I literally said “The same painting” firstly. And what? this doesn’t even make any sense. Creating limitations isnt having limitations by default. I mean sure weaving a narrative creates inherent limitations but that comes with all forms of art. Prequels have inherent narrative limitations which are not contrived and making something of the same quality from it is much more impressive
it feels pretty contrived to have a prequel game where we know Hornet is gonna end up back at Hallownest somehow
having a sequel with no guarantee of Hornet’s safety in her future is interesting, it makes me want to know more
just know that this is my perspective on it
One of the weakest and most disproven prequel arguments. Knowing where a character is gonna end does not sever one’s emotional attachment to their current journey, especially not if it’s handled well
Life and death circumstances are far from the only stakes writers can use for conflict
Tips for making good prequels: Don't follow the Star Wars route and you're good
look i’m sure a prequel is still gonna be a cool game but i’m not as interested in that
you’re really not gonna change my mind
There are multiple prequels which are highly critically acclaimed which disprove this argument sorry but it’s weak
Yeah, prequels can be interesting, but knowing what happens with Hornet in a lot of circumstances in HK might make whatever stuff we see in Silksong feel a little underwhelming.
Like, we are probably gonna see Hornet do some crazy magic shit in Silksong, but if it were a prequel, then that’d kinda mean that Hornet did all sorts of crazy shit to ultimately kinda end up as just another character in HK, maybe even just locked in the black egg for eternity for all we know.
That’s got how you make the best equals what do you mean 
Tbh, making a good prequel is harder than making a good sequel when you think about it, right?
sometimes i’m interested in prequels sometimes i’m not, it’s not a black and white thing
Still arguing as if this is a debate devoid of personal preferences
bro go read all 14 books of the wheel of time and look me dead in the eyes and tell me that sequels are objectively worse than prequels
also it's not contrived to make narrative limitations in your artwork, thats literally just how storytelling works, and being able to pick and choose the limitations that best fit the work of art you are creating is just better in every single situation, as long as you aren't a bad writer. unless you are poor at deciding what the limitations are, it is advantageous or equal in all situations to make up the limitations yourself, thus creating a better piece of art
there are advantages to prequels, for certain, but they aren't just flat out better than sequels
just because i don’t want silksong to be a prequel doesn’t mean i don’t like prequels
Yeah lol
Fundamentally, there would be little to no story that we already don't know for a HK prequel
I stand by my theory that HK and SS are simultaneously occurring and Hornet is just running between Hallownest and Pharloom really fast 
Chat it doesn't matter if it's a sequel or prequel, Silksong will still be mid
great theory
tbf there is a lot that we don't really have answers to
Like, you could expand the concept I guess, but you would need to like, create a whole different experience than the original work
oh so you hate waffles?
objectively correct theory
how did you know
God tier response
i mean we dont really know where deepnest spiders come from,so you could make a prequel about that
Guys, what's incomprehensible here?
silksong prequel bc pk mansion
we need a whole prequel about the first husk you see in game and its tax paying life before succumbing to radiance (that would be really funny)
I guess, but you could say that using the already existing characters to expand the world would be a mistake
Anything at the Xbox show? 🤡
nope 😔
It's a money strategy game
I don't get how people think using Hornet or another existing character would be interesting for a HK prequel tbh
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Neither are inherently worse or better than the other. It is just much more creatively interesting to work with limitations than without it. And besides there really isn’t any reason to have a sequel if there aren’t limitations bounded by the events of the earlier installments. In that, especially with Silksong which takes place in an entirely different place with entirely different characters, there really wouldn’t be much reason for it to exist apart from “its a completely different story just with Hornet”, not saying that it can’t be good like that, far from it, just that it’s much more interesting for it to have SOME limitations set by the previous installment.
Also yeah, you’re going to create limits on narratives regardless that’s not really relevant to what I’m trying to say
It would be much more appealing if we were exposed to the HK world in a way we didn't before
biggest prequel believer
mb if I misinterpreted what you were saying
why would it be? im curious
thought tbh im not in neither side
i aggree with the dude who said hornet just zooms between the two waiting for the next canon event in hk
It is up to the writer to use what happens to the character in the first installment and enrich it emotionally with context from the prequel. The purpose of the events in a prequel isn’t to show what happens to a character despite their developments in the original installment, but to elevate those original developments with further context and emotional backing
My argument for why Silksong isn’t a prequel is because I feel like it 
Because the main characters didn't even know about Hallownest at all before it got to ruins 
fair enought,this happens to me cuz i didnt do my -lore reps
Fucked up process if you do lore deep dives before playing a game
im getting canceled worse than matpad
Silksong happens during the time The Knight spent locked away in the dream world by the dreamers
I'M A SEQUEL BELIEVER
That’s why I watch sequels with no prior concern for watching the first film
Based process actually!
Like dune 2
But yeah, if Silksong was a prequel, it would be probably about the in between the ruins of Hallownest
silksong takes place in mr. mushroom's head as fanfic while he's bored out of his mind waiting for the knight to show up 
With that, it wouldn't change too much from what we've seen in HK really
That’s an interqual not a prequel
Technically, yeah, but Hornet wasn't really born when Hallownest was in it's peak, so
It’s not like a sequel can’t do that either, especially considering that Silksong will almost certainly delve more into the Weavers and stuff, which have their mysteries in HK. And the thing about character development, is that we’ll almost certainly see Hornet go through all sorts of things that will affect her character and abilities, and I feel like how Hornet appears in HK compared to how she’ll appear by the end of Silksong will feel much more underwhelming if ss were to be a prequel.
jinn be like
"there's nothing that shows that silksong will be a prequel but I will ignore everything that hints that it's a sequel to prove my point"
Why are we arguing Prequel-Sequel-Midquel. We’ve been over this. Silksong is an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE!!
Actually hilarious to think Mr Mushroom actually likes the knight and appreciates their company but just acts like an asshole regardless
You know, it wouldn't be possible (lore-wise) that Silksong would be a prequel, just think about it for more than 2 mins 
Tsundere Mr. Mushroom lmao
I don't want Silksong to be connected with Hollownest, I wanna see MORE of Hollow Knight world
*Hallownest
I’m sorry that we didn’t get silksong guys.
this just reminded me i havent platined hk cuz im too lazy to go get the rocket mushroom ending
dw I blame you completely but it's ok I forgive you 😊
It’s my fault for failing the steel soul last night
WHY IS COOLDOWN INCREASED , THIS IS JUST LIKE THE RAIN WORLD CHARACTER TOURNEY.
No it isn’t
That's why I'm saying that like, if TC ever make a HK prequel, they could need to introduce a new character that was when Hallownest was as it's peak
Builder bug..
Hello I’m team cherry
and that's why we need the money management tax evasion husk game, that's what I'm saying!!!
A snapshot of Hallownest at its peak, peak fiction, if you will
you mean silksong
zal hop on bootcamp lessons

If Silksong was a prequel though, Hornet would still be a baby bug 
And Hallownest would already be doomed by then
Are we still talking about Silksong here
I mean yeah it can happen either way. It is just more potent in a prequel. A sequel’s job is more to CHANGE a character’s ending while a prequel’s is to enrich and recontextualize it
Both can do that tho
The first sentence of my message will shock you
Well, except for the change a character's ending
There was a chance today , so ss-discussion is now off-topic again
keep yapping that silksong will be a sequel instead
Like yes, I saw a lot of things happening there (1), but I’m interested in what’s happening there (2)
YO WE GOT 5 SECOND SLOW MODE BACK THANK JOKER

A new guy got muted earlier because we were off-topic, very funny
He kept trying to minimod
So true…
Based backseat modder. We should actually have MORE backseat mods, I’m sure the actual mods would appreciate the new input and perspective 
real funny
Ik I’m hilarious 🤭
I only minimod hk-memes cause I know the mods rarely look there
I mean like, who would want to?
tbf the most emotionally complex character in hk is like "damn I was cool before, but now I'm not" and that's the whole thing. or, like, in hornet's case, "I'm cool and trying to protect the kingdom and I'm the child of two royals" and that's it. like all of the characters are incredible and I love them but they don't really have much complexity in the first place. that doesn't mean TC couldn't give some characters some depth (that would be just as cool,) I just don't really know if it's their writing style. they seem to prioritize the lore of the world and the events that take place in the story rather than the characters
idk maybe I'm just stupid though 🤡
I propose we change off-topic chat with the ss-discusion one on the channel list and see how long it takes for someone to notice a difference.
Imagine deleting a message instead of editing it, smh
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Builder bug is the most emotionally complex
Oh boy i have a prequel series for you 🤭🤭
He loves his life, he loves his job (happy)
He sad when you break sign (sad)
Has a crush (love.)
do tell, I really love reading but I'm out of books atm lol (assuming that it's a book series)
ive hearddd nov 8
That’s three whole emotions!
Hard to do a proper character study when there aren’t that many characters
Because ya know, it’s a dead kingdom
the land of stories and the school for good and evil prequels on their way to RUIN established canonicity
I just wonder if we'll have a happy ending for Silksong tbh
Hk has a happy ending.
But honestly disagree on the matter of emotional depth, the Knight just has a limited perspective
Like, realistically, do you think a happy ending would happen?
A potential happy ending, if you speculate
Anyways, i think i did a whole type up once about how a prequel can recontextalize Hornet’s Hollow Knight character
All of them are tragic and ambiguous in their own way
yeah, not saying it's bad or a problem or anything, I just think it's interesting that HK's story is so fascinating even though all of the characters seem so simple (to me at least)
Not likely, what if you lift the curse of pharloom, and everyone dies.
based
The knight could survive the godhome ending.
yeah and it was a lot of waffle
He may just start wearing godseeker as a skin suit.
Like all of these stupid ass discussions
If it’s a prequel, most likely sad to bittersweet. If it’s a sequel then it is likely to be a happy ending
Honestly HK works best with the slightly melancholic and dramatic air
Okay, but can we talk about how hard it is to write a main character for anything tho?
fucking around and finding out is the best way to waste my time until silksong finally drops (it's never coming out and I'm a fool 🤡)
If there was an unambiguously happy ending it’d be weird tonally imo
Really? I love waffles🤭
That’s why you make them emotionless , like Kris deltarune or the knight hollow knight.
Like, it's very easy to just make every character more likeable than your protagonist
This only works sometimes
Byleth was greatly hindered by being borderline emotionless for example
Worst storytelling take of all time
Was there news? I assume so
Nope
no
But I'm talking about everything media related tho
🧍♂️
From movies, manga, comic books, series to games
it was actually funny though
I freakin love how the world of Silksong is bustling with life. No melancholic blue color scheme, but a passionate red
Main protagonists are both easy and hard. I feel like there are certain roadblocks you don’t run into while writing the protagonist compared to side characters.
Anyways, here's my take on protagonists: The worst protagonists are the ones who I see myself in (not in a bad way)
But essentially, if you’re having problems writing your protagonist, you’re having problems writing the entire story. The protagonist embodies the central theme in some way and if you’re struggling to figure out what that is likely your entire narrative is unorganized
Most certainly, yeah
The issue with writing a protagonist is an issue of not knowing what to say with your story
It's not about dead kingdom now, it's about kingdom going absolutely chaotic and crazy, that's how it feels
I dont understand
Never seen a protagonist that you see them and you think "Oh, I would totally do that?"
Idk man this is a pretty bad take, but explain
Okay, hear me out:
Yep
You aren’t really supposed to relate to characters via their capabilities but instead their internal conflicts and relationship with said conflict and the environment
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say 
Not all of them should be, I’m saying it’s an easy way
Yeah but the writer can still do all this regardless on if you’re more or less capable than the protagonist
I think you can make almost anything a compelling main character, so long as you make sure that they fit within the world that you've made. For example, in LISA, the main character is a piece of shit who's just trying his best, and it doesn't come off as forced because you can become emotionally in-line with his goals as a result of being forced to make difficult decisions involving other characters and the world around you.
That's a videogame example but it applies to almost everything.
Even just the way that you write them can vastly change how the audience percieves the character's likability. For instance, Frodo could easily come off as a sniveling idiot if described just a little differently in the books, but Tolkien's writing ensures that the audience feels how Frodo is a genuinely good person who is being corrupted by the ring and takes the risk anyways (in an act of bravery), rather than a coward who whines about giving up halfway through and becomes an asshole to everyone around him because that's just who he is.
Me when I watch Death Note
I see Batman in myself, I love Batman.
I am Batman.
DUDE SO FR
I’m the caped crusader.
But the worst part about it is that you get too much attatched to a character that goes through the same stuff as you
This approach really only works in video games and nothing else
So are you!!!!!
Hello 
i love deltarune
I feel like team cherry is making an entirely different mode just for game critics
it depends. there's definitely possibility for a film where the main character is an empty shell witnessing the events and characters in the world around them, but it would certainly be unconventional and wont to failure unless you did it just right
that would be pretty funny

It’s too hard but it’s the tutorial
1st person perspective movie 
Apparently a fight broke out at a screening for five nights at freddys
Frebby fastbear got to him
Come on
before I get mod pinged
Hardcore (2015), that's really it
Want to hijack this and say Hollow knight is unique in that the protagonist is not the main character. And it is actually the two combined which embody the theme of the narrative not either one of them by themself

Wait that was an actual rule break I was kidding 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
oops forgor reply
whats that about
hardcore is a movie in first perspective
it's an actual good film you should check it out
listening to celeste ost resurrections
The hell i left for 2 seconds 💀💀
I love that song so much
are you truly venom
About how the silent hero tries to figure out what's going on (not really)
do you write btw? just curious since you know so much
Yes 🤭🤭
nice
i gotta ask, what are yall feminine folk’s opinions on the gigachad meme
It has "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen in it btw
it just popped into my head you dont gotta answer
best of luck on your future writing endeavors 🤜 🤛
are you havin a good time 
what about it
yooo good luck 
like whats yall thoughts on it
I gotta make a new playlist for another vacation.
its funny ig
in general
Yes, in 200 degrees
damn bro what are you typing risk
idk I think it's funny to respond to random things with it when there's absolutely no context. I don't really see how my opinion would be different than any man's though tbh
I just rewrite all my messages like 4-5 times before I send them out because I can never get my points across properly 😈
Jarlfeld.
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nice! I hate tlaz tbh


