sk-discussion

[vale temple]

she sees turkish man gifs on loop

[cobalt sigil]

just trimp imo

[remote ibex]

[sinful flare]

shrue

[coral jacinth]

Who has a basement anymore bruh what we need now are nuclear bomb shelters

[sinful flare]

who needs sticky launchers

[cobalt sigil]

nya~

[coral jacinth]

🤨

[violet dune]

he forces me to play drg

[remote ibex]

That sounds fun tho

[coral jacinth]

It could be worse

[violet dune]

and also tf2

[remote ibex]

I wish kaan locked me in their basement

[sinful flare]

this is too much torture @ivory sluice tf2

[coral jacinth]

Still could be worse (LoL 🤮)

[sinful flare]

i hope you get locked in someone elses basement

[remote ibex]

You can't handle my raw power (annoyingness)

[sinful flare]

true

[unkempt agate]

SHIT, WRONG VIDEO

[violet dune]

Your honor, league of legends

[unkempt agate]

HOW DO I STOP THIS FROM UPLOADING

[remote ibex]

[plucky ingot]

Delete discord

[unkempt agate]

OH NO

[violet dune]

[coral jacinth]

Such a pleasant video

[remote ibex]

What is happening

[coral jacinth]

Imagine being forced to play superliminal while tripping on acid

[inland ravine]

Remind me of weird core

[remote ibex]

Too freaked out must leave now bye

[inland ravine]

Bye

[coral jacinth]

Literally me

[inland ravine]

I'm also leaving to sleep

[remote ibex]

Gn gwnj have a nice sleep

[fiery coral]

Goodknight gwnj

[plucky ingot]

That one 'horror' segment would be even worse

[unkempt agate]

Welp

Uh

Hope you enjoyed that lovely video

[inland ravine]

OMG HII

[coral jacinth]

I played that game and it gave me a headache 🗿

[violet dune]

oh hi unique

[plucky ingot]

It wasn't too bad for me. A few sections did that to me tho

[coral jacinth]

Think the part that really hurt my head was near the end

[plucky ingot]

The e d and all the really trippy parts, so that makes sense

Anyways, I gtg

[coral jacinth]

Bye

The end is nigh from Lisa the painful

[coral prawn]

what hepeand to my trapdoor?

i cant leave

[quiet token]

(tboi spoilers) ||dogmas second phase activated a bit before the tv was broken and the activation sound was made multiple times ||

[grand ferry]

nice

[coral prawn]

edmun mc millen you little fucker

[quiet token]

||the activation sound is still going ||

[ivory sluice]

i'm not hopping onto game first thing after coming home

[trim estuary]

[grand ferry]

lets go

[sinful flare]

cring

im hopping on dmc instead

[sinful flare]

holy shit

the lost? a single quality 4 item? in the devil room? this couldnt have gone any more perfect

[quiet token]

it gets better

[coral prawn]

Ew blood pupy

[quiet token]

[coral prawn]

Free lose

[pastel whale]

They nerfed that didn't they psy fly

[quiet token]

yeah

still insane tho

[pastel whale]

Used to be so OP

[quiet token]

true

[sinful flare]

holy balls

[sinful flare]

lmao it would delete every hush projectile

[pastel whale]

Is it slower now or have a cool down or something

[sinful flare]

it has a cooldown iirc

[pastel whale]

Ah ok

[sinful flare]

not like a huge cooldown where it just wont delete projectiles

its slower in general now

[pastel whale]

It was near impossible to get hit before

[quiet token]

mf spawned ontop of me

[sinful flare]

oh that was a greed run

lol no luck as the lost

rip though

[grand ferry]

who is guppy

[plucky ingot]

Isaac's cat

[cobalt sigil]

what does that mean

[plucky ingot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coral prawn]

Thats the seed

For the run

[sinful flare]

the player's ip address encoded

[covert root]

ISAAC?

wow and u were having a good run too

[sinful flare]

thats isaac

[covert root]

F

[covert root]

yeah

[sinful flare]

yeah

[covert root]

yeah

[velvet sentinel]

should i get ac unity?

[kindred pewter]

skill issue

[kindred pewter]

no get godot

godot is 10x better than unity

[velvet sentinel]

…assasins creed..

[kindred pewter]

oh

[sinful flare]

armored core unity

[kindred pewter]

sure get it

[velvet sentinel]

animal crossing unity. Ace combat unity

[sinful flare]

air conditioner unity

[violet dune]

United kingdom

[kindred pewter]

UK

Ultrakil unity

[velvet sentinel]

the queen was a real one

[kindred pewter]

the queen is secretly V1

[violet dune]

mankind is dead
brittan is fuel

[velvet sentinel]

hell is full (hell omg london reference)

[kindred pewter]

tea is fuel

brittain is full (of tea)

[violet dune]

tea is mid

[kindred pewter]

stfu

[velvet sentinel]

youre mid

[kindred pewter]

tea is good

[velvet sentinel]

tea is great

[kindred pewter]

tea is amazing

[violet dune]

ik that but tea is also mid

[velvet sentinel]

tea is a heavenly gift

[violet dune]

coffee >

alf stop lurking

[twin bough]

No

[violet dune]

hah i got you to stop lurking

i wi.

[quiet token]

me when darkness brimstone eyeballs

[kindred pewter]

this is why you should never play greed

and instead play the regular game

[velvet sentinel]

this is such a sad death message truly inspiring creative and extraordinary

[kindred pewter]

chat which is better for hugging
a cactus or a pirhana plant?

[hollow terrace]

[fiery coral]

Why is the tomato brandishing a knife

[kindred pewter]

to cut

[fiery coral]

Window explain

[kindred pewter]

or stab

[deep laurel]

should i try t lost today or something less menacing?

[trim estuary]

Definitely piranha plants

[kindred pewter]

do it

[kindred pewter]

but cactus is more comforting imo

[modest tartan]

If ss or spoiler comes out ping me

[trim estuary]

Yeah but piranha plants are less likely to hurt you

[kindred pewter]

alright

[trim estuary]

Silksong spoiler ||Sharpe, the Steel Assassin, will turn Hornet into void halfway through the game||

Another Silksong spoiler ||THERE WILL BE COLORED BLOOD TC PLEASE I BEG YOU||

[kindred pewter]

you forgot about how ||Hornet uses the void to avenge the knight and trap the last judge||

[young saffron]

||imo blood would ruin it ish||

[kindred pewter]

nahh I love blood
shed

[trim estuary]

????

[fiery coral]

There will be blood
shed

[trim estuary]

||theres already blood in the first trailer??||

[fiery coral]

Darn it I was slow

[kindred pewter]

THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD

[sinful flare]

The only one left

[fiery coral]

THE ONLY ONE
LEFT

[sinful flare]

Will ride upon the dragon's back

[charred pulsar]

[fiery coral]

Because the mountains don't give back what they take

[trim estuary]

||each enemy type had like different colors of blood but the new trailer had only white blood||

[sinful flare]

Oh no there will be blood

[modest tartan]

[kindred pewter]

SHED

[fiery coral]

Goodknight Simo

[kindred pewter]

have a good knight simo

[fiery coral]

IT'S THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER KNOOOOOOOOOOOWWNNNNN

[modest tartan]

This is the most active server I'm in grats

[sinful flare]

beautiful lyrics

gn simo

[kindred pewter]

peak music

[sinful flare]

yeah

💪

[trim estuary]

See chat there IS colored blood

[kindred pewter]

ah yes

silk = blood

[trim estuary]

Yes yes the first image is of the finest quality

[formal karma]

I mean we knew that right?

[trim estuary]

Do you not see the blood

[trim estuary]

Someone is saying colored blood would ruin silksong grgehslerld

[opaque sigil]

The colored blood was removed but the robots might have oil or something

[formal karma]

Wowzers

[kindred pewter]

why did silksong remove blood

[formal karma]

Ratings likely

[sage glade]

bugs don't have blood

they run on spite

[trim estuary]

Accessibility option please 🥺

[coarse leaf]

man, they're about to retire at this point and still no Silksong

[formal karma]

Tc also doesn't care bout biology

[formal karma]

Eww, reddit

[quiet token]

greedier on its way to spawn 10 jumping enemies 3 waves in a row after i tell people its not that bad:

[sage glade]

FINALLY, the dad who actually works for visits team cherry!

[opaque sigil]

Eww going to tc’s place of work

[coarse leaf]

it's a public building

[opaque sigil]

Doesn’t make it not weird

[trim estuary]

Still a bit odd

[sage glade]

is the office public though

[obtuse glacier]

Why did you say it's not that bad

[sage glade]

how did they catch their attention

"Hey come outside let's take a pic"

[opaque sigil]

If I follow you through a public park is that not weird just because I’m technically allowed to be there

[coarse leaf]

maybe not for Will and Ari 🤷🏻‍♂️

[opaque sigil]

Or is it weird and off putting

[trim estuary]

Team Cherry actually sit outside their office all day waiting to take pictures with fans

[opaque sigil]

Hmm yes and so it’s very cool for people to just make that decision for them

[coarse leaf]

you don't know how Will and Ari feel about ppl visiting the building so

it's anybody's guess

[opaque sigil]

And I’m not visiting their building

[obtuse glacier]

Tbh just walk into the building and take photographs of team cherry until they tell you to stop, and after that, dont stop

[sage glade]

take the most sensible guess lol

[stark estuary]

Well usually I follow them all the way home but I can see why your half-assed way of doing things would disturb some people

[formal karma]

I'm sure they're happy to have people say hi- but it can be bothersome

[opaque sigil]

“I don’t know if they’d mind being bothered so I’m just gonna go bother them” is not the common sense thing to do the common sense thing to do is leave them alone

[kindred pewter]

tc will have bodyguards next time a fan meets them

[outer temple]

Yo pink kenergy

[kindred pewter]

Yo

[coarse leaf]

well it's not like everyone's travelling to Australia just to visit them 💀 it's a whole another world

[kindred pewter]

also wasn't there a concert supposed to happen in Australia?

[sage glade]

wait i keep realizing this kenergy is uhh

[kindred pewter]

[coarse leaf]

that was 2 months ago

[ripe cliff]

TC's body guards are the funnel web spiders

[obtuse glacier]

Australia is very under-populated so yeah only like 5 people have visited them ever

[kindred pewter]

sadly this disguise will go away soon

[opaque sigil]

There’s only one kenergy now

[sage glade]

quantum kenergy

[trim estuary]

Team Cherry have tamed fire ants that live in their ceiling that they can deploy at any time

[sage glade]

nosk reference

[kindred pewter]

omg hollow knight bur real life

[formal karma]

Tamed.... okay buddy...

[coarse leaf]

how's graig doing? it's been a while

[formal karma]

Like fire ants aren't nature's wrath incarnate

[kindred pewter]

graig is being graig

[formal karma]

Probably busy make hos own game

[ripe cliff]

Now I'm tempted to make a copy pasta blurb based on this

[trim estuary]

Do it

[ripe cliff]

Later

[formal karma]

Might as well

[violet dune]

do it

[sage glade]

so many sea type games

sea of thieves, sea of stars, sea of survivors

[quiet token]

just found out the haunt can hit you while travelling back to the wall

[formal karma]

And once Mario rpg gets remade I'll have an s type game

[sage glade]

s for strand

[sinful flare]

@sage glade @cobalt sigil yall up for tf2 in up to 30 minutes?

[sinful flare]

sss for smokin sexy style

[cobalt sigil]

no :3

in 30 mins ill be eating food with my dad :3

[marsh ibex]

blt obtained

[cobalt sigil]

then in 30 more mins ill bein in school

[sinful flare]

rip

[cobalt sigil]

then for three hours after that ill still probably be doing school :3

[sinful flare]

mine lasts 7 hours :dante:

[violet dune]

L

[sage glade]

nah bruh, screw that game i'm done

[violet dune]

lucky that oyurs is only 7 hours

[sage glade]

racist ahh game

[sinful flare]

pocket me with the quick fix

[marsh ibex]

Wither when people make good food

[sinful flare]

its like 8 periods per day but idk how yours like

[violet dune]

8

[sage glade]

man i would if they let me exist on a server for more than 3 minutes

[sinful flare]

yours too or nah

[violet dune]

8 hours

[sinful flare]

damn i would die

[violet dune]

[sinful flare]

my ass can barely stand 7 hours at least they got some kind of variation

[sinful flare]

rip

[quiet token]

cause it isnt THAT bad but it just has 1 really bad thing going on at any given moment

[olive bobcat]

What's Unity

[surreal remnant]

game engine

[opaque sigil]

Aluo please

[kindred pewter]

car engine

[olive bobcat]

Vrrrmmmmm

[sinful flare]

antonym of division

[kindred pewter]

shit wrong reply

[kindred pewter]

yeah?

[violet dune]

A

[obtuse glacier]

This is a more human response

[sinful flare]

me 450/500 of the time

[sage glade]

one of the assassin's creed games

[kindred pewter]

ew gpt-4

imagie paying for gpt-4

[surreal remnant]

the free version works just fine

[kindred pewter]

exactly

why do people want gpt-4

[surreal remnant]

big number good ig

only small problem the free version has is its database is outdated by a couple years

but you can just *give it the material you want it to base it on

[cobalt sigil]

tf2 might be a quite silly game

[violet dune]

engineer gaming

[kindred pewter]

ror2 reference

[cobalt sigil]

i asked for a medigun name in a ctf lobby and people started saying racist shit :3

[gritty bronze]

Y'all see this reddit post?

[cobalt sigil]

cool

[kindred pewter]

I saw it

[opaque sigil]

I mean yeah mechs aren’t really practical weapons

[kindred pewter]

now finally someone can say their dad works for team cherry (stolen joke)

[sinful flare]

quick fix actual peak

[kindred pewter]

whats a quick fix

[cobalt sigil]

medi gun

heals fast and gets uber fast

also you copy whoever youre healings movement

[sinful flare]

medigun that lets you do explosive jumps with the person youre healing

[cobalt sigil]

so like if youre healing a demo and they charge you charge too

[sinful flare]

same thing applies to pyro's jetpack

[sinful flare]

ik extra information no one cares but the quick fix shield charge works weird like you have full turn control but you control the turn yourself and the demoknight turning doesnt affect your direction

[coarse leaf]

best moment in the whole game

[sinful flare]

best moment in the whole game

[outer temple]

Yo that’s hype

[kindred pewter]

my favorite moment was when the knight said "" it was amazing

[coarse leaf]

BRO DIDNT ASK HIM TO LEAK DATE OF SILKSONG WTF

[cobalt sigil]

quick fix is cool

shame its banned in comp

[outer temple]

Is he some sort of respectable human or something?

[sinful flare]

really??

[cobalt sigil]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

meow?

[cobalt sigil]

because if med gets in danger they can just basically rocket jump out which is too op :3

[harsh apex]

And people are already using Chat GPT for info.. 😔

[sinful flare]

competitive players HATE fun

[cobalt sigil]

whats another weird banned weapon

[sinful flare]

idk what rules are you looking at

[cobalt sigil]

uhhh i think pomson might be banned?

beggars is banned too lol

[deep laurel]

why is it always ashpit?

[sinful flare]

there is no Mines floor in ba sing se

[cobalt sigil]

wtf gas passer is banned

[sinful flare]

detonator is banned but thermal thruster isnt

[lament lotus]

HUH??

[next pier]

They gonna use explode on ignite in pvp

[lament lotus]

hello boomer

[cobalt sigil]

ohhh

[next pier]

Hello Astri

[cobalt sigil]

weapons by default arent whitelisted and no one cares enough to whitelist the gas passer lmao

[sinful flare]

[next pier]

Have you beaten son of Sparda yet astri

[sinful flare]

rare boomer encounter in ss discussion

[olive bobcat]

@vale temple wake up

[next pier]

Based wtf

[vale temple]

I'll read it later
I'm in class

[next pier]

Mythical pokemon

Hi in class I'm dad

[olive bobcat]

Dandadan is art tell that to your teacher

[lament lotus]

i will meet sparda before that happens

[sinful flare]

astro when game

[lament lotus]

uhm

i cannot but maybe in a few hours

[sinful flare]

god i dont know if i should buy dmc hd collection it feels too expensive

[lament lotus]

it is

[fiery coral]

Just get 5

[sinful flare]

like sure i'll get to play the first 3 dmc games but the second one already sucks ass and the other 2 are pretty different from 5

[sinful flare]

i completed 5

ive still yet to fix the ps4 though i didnt complete vergil campaign nor any of the son of sparda campaigns

[next pier]

UNIQUE WHASSUP

[fiery coral]

Howdy

[next pier]

Man it's been so long since I've seen you in this server without you being a moderator

[fiery coral]

Back to being a regular user

[sinful flare]

oh i thought you were going to be here for only a while yo

[lament lotus]

only a while YO

[next pier]

Go back to the Zote brothers pfp for the good old times

[lament lotus]

ive almost forgotten that

[fiery coral]

Hm I could

[lament lotus]

REAL

[fiery coral]

Test

[sinful flare]

Test

[next pier]

LETS GO

[sinful flare]

eh dmc collection can wait till the end of discount :vergil:

@next pier wouldnt it be funny if we both went pyro with the thermal thrusters on a king of the hill map

[vale temple]

she's a woman

[next pier]

So true
Whatever you meant to say

[lament lotus]

ah right teachette

[formal iris]

I swear YouTube commenters are the biggest degenerates on the internet

[quiet token]

is it just me or does this look photoshopped

[sage glade]

besides us here

[next pier]

YouTube commenters are literally npcs with 2 lines of dialogue

[grand ferry]

funny

[olive bobcat]

omg John Darksoul

[formal iris]

No, it was worse than that. Some celebrity I think? Idfk, it was on an IGN community post, and the post was about the celebrity saying that she’s a gamer and she has an xbox, and the comment and a comment and it’s reply were objectifying her and also degenerates in other ways because she had an Xbox and not a PlayStation

[formal iris]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-dance-fortnite-gif-19664902

[surreal remnant]

why do people care so much about whether you have an xbox or playstation console

chauvinism?

[formal iris]

Idfk. But it’s the fact that they were objectifying someone at the same time made them the biggest degenerates I’ve ever seen.

[quiet token]

the lost is just stuck in this pose the dance glitched

[formal iris]

There’s even a reply I can’t even mention because it was fucking inappropriate.

[surreal remnant]

dm me it

[formal iris]

No no, we’re not degenerates in comparison

[sage glade]

there was a ror2 meme right above it

[surreal remnant]

we’re degenerates, but at least we have standards

[lone crown]

[sage glade]

here

[next pier]

Average console gamer

[olive bobcat]

https://youtu.be/A6Xq3jkZbTU

[pastel whale]

Dance?

Mod?

[quiet token]

yeah

on the last boss

[wheat sail]

Hello hello hello hi hello

[sinful flare]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-kitten-kitty-hi-hii-hey-gif-21229532

[pastel whale]

No farting

[wheat sail]

...

[pastel whale]

Omg it's that cat

[coral jacinth]

I shot and killed fart

[pastel whale]

That was mean

[coral jacinth]

He looked at me funny

[quiet token]

i died on phase 2 but i had spirit shackles 😭

[sinful flare]

found a gun i couldve used but i CANT USE GUNS AS THIS CAHRACTER ESHKJCFDSKFHJGSDKJFDVGASKLJDHALSŞJKHBDLASKJBSAD

[quiet token]

that was so terrifying

[sinful flare]

im limited to fucking using my hands

[coral jacinth]

ATF moment

[cobalt sigil]

womp womp

[olive bobcat]

I think that's what I use

[wheat sail]

Flurry op

[wheat sail]

NOOOOOOOOIOOIOOO

[sinful flare]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm gun

[coral jacinth]

The ATF takin our guns!!!

[pastel whale]

I'll take your guns

[next pier]

prayers blasphemous refnrencne

[coral prawn]

Idiot cat glimbs on my sister after not seeing her for two weeks

[versed pollen]

I hope the cat eats her

[white gazelle]

hello guys

how are ya

[pastel whale]

Yes we heard about unity

[marsh ibex]

Alright I guess

[coral prawn]

He would never he is to kind

[marsh ibex]

There’s a crick in my neck though

[pastel whale]

Crack it

[marsh ibex]

nuh uh

[white gazelle]

thats bad i know how it feels like

[next pier]

Crack it that surely will help

[sinful flare]

bored

[marsh ibex]

I mean I spent ten thousand years in that godforsaken lamp

[next pier]

DMC hd collection:

[white gazelle]

hornet waiting silksong:

[pastel whale]

Crickets head

[white gazelle]

what happened to that little cute doggie

[manic abyss]

hey chat

[pastel whale]

That's a cat

[white gazelle]

oh really?

[pastel whale]

Yus

[sinful flare]

hey daud

[white gazelle]

my eyes are made of iron as you can see lad

[pastel whale]

Very common mistake tbh

A lot of ppl think Cricket is a dog

[quiet token]

got the same deal as the last run

ehwaz into broken modem

got these from 2 shopkeepers lmao

[hidden yarrow]

guys, am I stupid or is steam banning me from buying silk song?

because someone just said its released...

[opaque sigil]

They lied

[surreal remnant]

i thought it was apparent i was joking

[hidden yarrow]

ya it was

I'm just on pins and needles waiting over here

[surreal remnant]

probably gonna be waiting a while

[opaque sigil]

People will suspend all common sense when ss is involved

[hidden yarrow]

well seems we'll be waiting for some time after 2024 at least

[surreal remnant]

the desperation fried their brains

[hidden yarrow]

lol, what can I say, I've replayed hk 7 times to at least 100% each time

[ripe cliff]

Try other games

[olive bobcat]

Why

[wheat sail]

Streamer luck

[olive bobcat]

It's only September 2023

[wheat sail]

It's October

[hidden yarrow]

I guess because I'm careful with my pick of games

[opaque sigil]

Not sure what that has to do with things

[olive bobcat]

So you're not gonna play it until after 2024?

[opaque sigil]

Also idk if I’ve acknowledged the huntress wizard pfp so I’ll do so now:
Based hw pfp

Best wizard

[hidden yarrow]

being more careful with how I pick games also in turn makes my criteria of games stricter, which is why I only play select games or game series.

[opaque sigil]

Well pep and Simon are also good characters

[stoic sigil]

Titanfall 2 had it's servers fixed before we got a Silksong release date announcement

[crude trail]

nah cuz why would it affect them it's not like silksong is made in Unity ofc

[stoic sigil]

At this rate Anthem will get revived

[crude trail]

fr i bought it again and it was on sale at like 90% off

[opaque sigil]

Fe4 remake could be announced before ss but probably not released

[ripe cliff]

He was asking about your silksong 2025 assumption tho

[stoic sigil]

We know more about GTA6 than we do Hollow Knight Silksong

[hidden yarrow]

at this rate cyberpunk 2077 will have a 2nd game and it'll be with even more game breaking bugs than the last one lol

[stoic sigil]

Granted it's because of the big leak

[opaque sigil]

I mean we know a lot about silksong

[ripe cliff]

Cyberpunk 2077 is forever bad

[hidden yarrow]

hmm well it wasn't an assumption, it was just me thinking, if they've gone this far they might do it again

[quiet token]

i was on the last floor, checked the curse room, went on the 2 buttons and 8 super envys spawned 😭

[stoic sigil]

Ubisoft will end up making a good game before Silksong releases

[rapid topaz]

That's why you push buttons one at a time

[velvet sentinel]

assasins creed mirage

[quiet token]

i tried but the 4 super envys startled me

[stoic sigil]

It'll be P2W trash

[cunning geode]

rainbow six siege was pretty good when it came out, im not so sure about today though

[covert root]

it says you were killed by the door what

[velvet sentinel]

gotta wait and see

[rapid topaz]

damn

what

[hidden yarrow]

assassin's creed odyssey wasn't bad, and you can't make me think less

[quiet token]

cause i killed all of them but lost the holy mantle

[velvet sentinel]

origins is like only 8€ rn

[stoic sigil]

Odyssey was ok

[hidden yarrow]

yep all those Malaka's really got to me

[wet tulip]

after eating 4 cookies i got so far, i might just eat the whole box

[stoic sigil]

But I'm with the "AC Peaked at Black Flag" Gang

[opaque sigil]

Even if you don’t like the newer ac games the older ones were solid

Black flag was Ubisoft

[rapid topaz]

I liked AC Revelations

[velvet sentinel]

btw just got ac unity and 50gb for a 9 year old game is wild

[stoic sigil]

Black Flag was old Ubisoft

When Ubisoft still had a soul

[opaque sigil]

Unity never clicked with me and syndicate kept some of its weirdness

[hidden yarrow]

I like the hk spinoff about a cursed sword using you to gain its power back, not really.

[opaque sigil]

Origins on are good games imo but very different

[stoic sigil]

Origins to Valhalla are P2W

[velvet sentinel]

when they removed assassins from assassins creed

[opaque sigil]

They’re not

[rapid topaz]

Ubisoft peaked at Rayman Origins/Legends they were very creative

[stoic sigil]

Mfw AC becomes WoW

[sinful flare]

guh i didnt know alba was a youtuber

[hidden yarrow]

oh Rayman Origins wasn't bad, I just couldn't stand repeating the same level 100+ times lol

[rapid topaz]

Why do you repeat the same level

[velvet sentinel]

rayman legends was peak

[stoic sigil]

I can go buy a funny glowing sword with OP perks from the store right now

[hidden yarrow]

to try and beat it. I have infinite skill issue

[opaque sigil]

But you don’t have to and the mechanics aren’t built around doing that

[velvet sentinel]

i wish arkane would make a dishonored 3 but the series is done 😭

[covert root]

F

[rapid topaz]

oh yeah I thought you needed to repeat it lol
this was quite hard I agree

[opaque sigil]

Having what’s effectively dlc to get strong items isn’t the same as being p2w

[velvet sentinel]

i mean like quite literally it is

[opaque sigil]

Not in the sense that the term is used

[stoic sigil]

That's exactly what Pay to Win is

[cobalt sigil]

paying to get better items is p2w i think

[stoic sigil]

💀

[quiet token]

[opaque sigil]

Only technically, generally p2w is used in the context of multiplayer games where you’re competing with people who can also choose to get an advantage so not paying puts you at a disadvantage relative to players who do

When you don’t have direct competition like that it doesn’t make sense to think of it in the same way

[stoic sigil]

"It's technically not P2W" 💀

[cobalt sigil]

p2w in pve or co-op games is like who cares i think

[opaque sigil]

No, it’s only technically p2w

In the general force of that description it’s not at all p2w

Because it doesn’t have those consequences on the gameplay

Things are balanced around not paying

[stark estuary]

DLC power creep is a common thing but it’s not pay to win

[opaque sigil]

It’s not p2w in any pragmatic sense

[rapid topaz]

I wish more multiplayer games had Pay to Swag economic models (cosmetic only)

[opaque sigil]

Calling it so is just being pedantic at best

[stark estuary]

And rightly so tbf, people who are paying for additional content want to feel like they’re getting their money’s worth
It’s not the same as a p2w multiplayer game where that’s granting you an unfair advantage against other players

[opaque sigil]

Yes it’s very different

And dlc power creep is sort of a scourge on game design at times but it’s a different issue

[stark estuary]

Yeah

[cobalt sigil]

ror2 reference

also a payday 2 reference

[opaque sigil]

Ror2 is an example yes

[wheat sail]

welcome to team fortress 2

[cobalt sigil]

tf2 kinda

most stock weapons are pretty good

[wheat sail]

after 9 yeras in development

i hope it was worth the weight

[cobalt sigil]

all stock loadouts are like useable

[opaque sigil]

P2W does sort of exist on a scale but tf2 is for sure on it

[cobalt sigil]

med probably has the worst stock loadout? but like its still good

[opaque sigil]

Not all games that are p2w are equally bad in the relevant ways

[cobalt sigil]

i think all stock loadouts are like good enough though

[opaque sigil]

It’s still a mechanical disadvantage not to have options

[cobalt sigil]

yeah

tf2 is kinda p2w but like the paying is like three dollars on marketplace so :3

[sinful flare]

only the syringe gun and the default saw which uhhh yeah

[cobalt sigil]

and all can be gotten for free

default medigun is still really good though so yk

[wheat sail]

you get the weapon for free anyway, or make a scrap and trade

[quiet token]

WHAT

[sinful flare]

the engineer can get a pretty big power creep

as long as you know how to use engineer and his other shotguns like frontier justice but you know

[wheat sail]

sniper still op

[cobalt sigil]

sniper might be a little bit of silly game design

[wheat sail]

no damage drop off, hitscan weapon, can charge up weapon for more damage

only obstacle is skill issue

[sinful flare]

loose cannon without the hitscan part

[cobalt sigil]

idk if skill issue is that much of an obstacle because a fully charged bodyshot still oneshots like 5 classes

[sinful flare]

idk how much skill that takes but i'd imagine it take a significant amount of skill that i dont have

[wheat sail]

no double donk though

[olive bobcat]

@kindred pewter Through multiple comp SBR games I've found something really funny

[sinful flare]

true can sniper double donk enemies

[olive bobcat]

It's always the teams that mock you after you die

[sinful flare]

yeah i thought so

[olive bobcat]

1v1 them and they get folded, but put them in a group and they act like they're hot shit

[sinful flare]

demoman remains to be the best class

[wheat sail]

snipers new primary weapon is not hitscan but fires a very fast loose cannon projectile that you can double donk

[cobalt sigil]

erm medic is the best class iirc

[sinful flare]

debatable

[rustic ore]

Imagine playing tf2 (this post was made by tf2 gang)

[wheat sail]

headshots sniper

[sinful flare]

holy fuck

[cobalt sigil]

if you have a medic and the enemy team doesnt you win like all the time no other class does that :3

[opaque sigil]

I prefer monarch or ion myself

[sinful flare]

16 spies:

[cobalt sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/trans-gif-5679409686680626425

:3

[rustic ore]

Northstar better 🥱

[opaque sigil]

Northstar when I Ronin them (they die instantly)

[sinful flare]

imagine playing payload as a heavy and you see 16 spies pushing the payload cart

[cobalt sigil]

gg you lose tbh

[sinful flare]

real

[rustic ore]

Ronin when I punch through sword block with tethers and fully-charged railgun shots (they explode):

[cobalt sigil]

class wars moment

[opaque sigil]

Just phase out or whatever that ability is called

[rustic ore]

You bait out the phase dash before tethering

[sinful flare]

16 pyros with the thermal thruster

[cobalt sigil]

why do you like thermal thurster sm

[sinful flare]

its a fun weapon

[rustic ore]

Northstar is almost as batshit zoomy as ronin is so he’ll have to use phase dash to close the gap

[cobalt sigil]

weapon :clueless

[wheat sail]

is axetinguisher degreaser still a thing

[sinful flare]

idk what degreaser does

[rustic ore]

Degreases

[cobalt sigil]

switch speed faster

[wheat sail]

last time i played it made your switch speed way faster

[opaque sigil]

I mean you never fight a northstar in the open if they have a kill hallway you take a side route and jump them from behind

[wheat sail]

so you can light someone, airblast them then axe them

havent really played in a long time though

[rustic ore]

Smart northstars (of which there are exactly seven) tether their corners

[cobalt sigil]

secondary slot is so important for pyro and giving it up for the jetpack might be crazy

[sinful flare]

crazy?

i was crazy once

[rustic ore]

kaan i will smite you

[wheat sail]

detonator/scorch is op

[opaque sigil]

You phase dash into them so they don’t see you coming which also bypasses tethers

[sinful flare]

they locked me in a lobby

[cobalt sigil]

neither are op

[sinful flare]

a ctf_2fort lobby

[cobalt sigil]

scorch is bullshit but not op

[wheat sail]

op

[rustic ore]

phase dash makes a lotta noise tbh

[cobalt sigil]

and detonator is a lot worse than scorch

[wheat sail]

op

[cobalt sigil]

nuh uh

[wheat sail]

op

[opaque sigil]

So does an active lobby

[rustic ore]

You got me there

[opaque sigil]

I’m just saying it’s really hard to lose a duel as a ronin

[kindred pewter]

TRUE

this is why I despire sbr

[opaque sigil]

Like I never live very long in a robin but very consistently take down at least two or three titans

[kindred pewter]

but also find it funny to play

[rustic ore]

To be fair a lot of my Ronin experiences as a Northstar main have been “get bodied out of nowhere” or “why on earth are you rushing a Northstar. there’s like a 90% chance I have Core before you get here”

[heady iron]

selfie with the boys

[rustic ore]

who tf are they

I also abuse the hover tech where ronins cant get me with the sword half the time

[surreal remnant]

team cherry

[opaque sigil]

I mean careless ronins will always get bodied instantly

[rustic ore]

i meant I’m getting bodied instantly

[opaque sigil]

And sometimes I’ll just skip north stars altogether if I can’t get them off guard

[opaque sigil]

Glass cannon titans be like that

[rustic ore]

nothing more annoying than that one NS that dashes backwards and behind a corner as soon as hes spotted (it’s me. that’s me. i’m that northstar)

[olive bobcat]

I think it's funny

I got a Scary Monsters vamp and TWOH Pluck to under half each and they still mocked me like they were good

[opaque sigil]

I mean half the time if i see a northstar try that I’ll dash away and circle around to materialize behind them and cut them in half, it doesn’t always work but often they’ll wait to draw you into line of fire

[versed pollen]

Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites

[rustic ore]

I like to play chicken with ronins and dash forward as soon as they phase dash. Either I die bc I closed the gap too much or they telefrag themselves

[olive bobcat]

Also at one point TWOH got next to 0

[opaque sigil]

I’ve never seen somebody try that against me but if they did it would probably end in them dying

[olive bobcat]

Both, actually

[wheat sail]

the frauds...

[rustic ore]

sometimes you gotta risk it for the biscuit

[olive bobcat]

I would've killed Scary Monsters if the transformation didn't have iframes

[versed pollen]

TC clearly are not developing the game as they had the time to take a picture

[opaque sigil]

I’m honestly not sure if I prefer ronin or monarch

[sinful flare]

i prefer demoknight

[rustic ore]

I prefer Ronin personally

[opaque sigil]

Ronin is a fun power fantasy for like ten seconds but monarch has a lot of longevity

[rustic ore]

Striders for life

I don’t actually like Sword Core tbh

[opaque sigil]

Like if you’re being careful as monarch you won’t die

[uncut citrus]

its late!!!!

i almsot missed today DSSDQR

[opaque sigil]

A ronin will die from minor damage adding up pretty quickly

[rustic ore]

Monarch will absolutely fucking dominate if you can play carefully

[opaque sigil]

Which is fun to do

[rustic ore]

Not fun to play against

[opaque sigil]

But Ronin is fun to mess with people

The sheer mind games you play

[uncut citrus]

Today we are reviewing our 206th ss-discussion quote

[rustic ore]

Is it weird that I like normal Ronin over Ronin Prime

[kindred pewter]

first yba player to have skill no way

[olive bobcat]

I'm also a big fan of those teams that never would have made it

Before those two I swept two KCRs and a TWOH

[opaque sigil]

What’s the difference again? Haven’t played in a while

[olive bobcat]

The 3 of them together didn't get me under 3/4

[wheat sail]

"The snow goose need not bathe itself to turn itself white, nor do you need to do anything but be yourself"

[rustic ore]

Ronin has these little flaps on the back of his head and Ronin Prime has no flaps, slotted armor plates, and a new sword

[opaque sigil]

Oh just cosmetic

Then idk why it would be weird

[olive bobcat]

Garm we should play YBA SBR sometime

[olive bobcat]

I can take you further than you've ever imagined, before betraying you and throwing you in the dirt

[rustic ore]

I like the grittier “realist” look regular Ronin has

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that’s fair

[rustic ore]

Like that is what I imagine a giant robot’s sword would look like. A sturdy, industrial-grade slab of metal

[surreal remnant]

a friend gifted me tf2, is it good?

[rustic ore]

Yes

Probably the best shooter I’ve played in several years, in all honesty

[opaque sigil]

Even if you don’t really do much multiplayer the campaign is actually great

[surreal remnant]

he said the campaign was really good

[opaque sigil]

I only dabbled in mp for the most part but that’s also fun, back when I played it was pretty empty

[surreal remnant]

i’ll prolly start with the campaign, not really a fan of multiplayer shooters

[kindred pewter]

first i need to know what stand to main, then get a fightig skill

[surreal remnant]

titan fall 2

[wheat sail]

ded

[kindred pewter]

I was completely bamboozled when my dear cream got nerfed

[quiet token]

I FUCKING did it

[next pier]

I'm gonna gift you team fortress 2

[kindred pewter]

W

[opaque sigil]

The campaign does a pretty good job of giving you the gameplay from multiplayer imo, the only titan that’s not in campaign is monarch and it’s basically a variant of the base titan in campaign

[surreal remnant]

the guy that gifted me tf2 also gifted me Hk

and elden ring

dude is a major W

[rustic ore]

Best girl is still Northstar Prime tho

[quiet token]

i never want to do that again

[rustic ore]

Real. Your friend is a HOMIE fr

[twin bough]

Good would be an understatement

[sinful flare]

you should play tf2 instead ‼️

[rustic ore]

how about YOU play tf2 kaan

how bout that huh

[olive bobcat]

I play TA4 + boxing defense, but one of the beefy stands + Pluck is pretty busted rn

Pluck's rework is insane and has some inf combos

[surreal remnant]

i’ll install it and try it out when i get home

[olive bobcat]

Scary Monsters + Pluck could probably get you far

[surreal remnant]

he gifted it to me at like midnight last night

[uncut citrus]

isnt it free

[surreal remnant]

titan fall 2

why must there be multiple tf2’s

[uncut citrus]

i was about to say "or do you mean titan fall"

[ripe cliff]

Damn that's confusing lmao

[surreal remnant]

make unique names game devs!

[olive bobcat]

We should just delete Team Fortress 2

[surreal remnant]

or make shorter names

[olive bobcat]

TF2 and T2

[surreal remnant]

but then no coconut

[kindred pewter]

pluck became one of the most useless to most OP goddamn

[olive bobcat]

I hate all the spec reworks

But especially Pluck and Vamp

One is busted beyond belief and the other is a fucking movie machine

[twin bough]

The hit 1991 movie by james cameron?

[wheat sail]

you conquered the golden boy

[kindred pewter]

I remmebered when people said hamon and boxing only good fighting stands

im such a YBA boomer

[olive bobcat]

I remember when Killer Queen: Bites the Dust was first added

3 years ago 👴

Boxing still solos idk man, something about it is just peak

We love our beefy health

[wheat sail]

?

[unborn dome]

tf2 is perhaps the only example of a fan base’s delusions eventually causing something to actually happen

[sinful flare]

summer 2023 update did happen..

[unborn dome]

im not talking about that tf2…

[kindred pewter]

fr fr

[sinful flare]

holy balls

idk what to say about greedier but i hate the fact that you get less coins 🗿

[surreal remnant]

still waiting for stormworks to get its fluids update so i can give npcs hypoxia

and then promptly crush them with air pressure

[vale temple]

did you never beat greedier

finally home this was the most boring first day

[sinful flare]

i think i beat greedier
like

once

[sinful flare]

you could say the same for our fridays

also its not because of my attention span

[vale temple]

my attention span has been non existent today

[sinful flare]

its a whole bunch of nothing we do for 160 minutes

[vale temple]

its the first day i dont want to hear you talking for hours bruh 😭

[sinful flare]

mmmmmmfcgmfxghfdgcbzxc i still need to do shit

[vale temple]

they haven't seen me for 3 months and told me i look like jerma

@olive bobcat too wholesome chapter, they definitely will be going dark soon

[lament lotus]

what

[vale temple]

idk 😭 it's bc i grew my hair

[lament lotus]

💀

[vale temple]

no this isnt my face reveal

[lament lotus]

then do one smh

[tulip edge]

No way the real jerma himself graced us with his presence

[vale temple]

[lament lotus]

mfs be like

[kindred pewter]

sof face reveal

[tulip edge]

I'm your biggest fan

[sinful flare]

sofuh

[lament lotus]

then give off the most condescending aura

[tulip edge]

I think the most condescending is

[lament lotus]

nahhh

shermasmirk is funny

[quiet token]

I beat it with the lost

[lament lotus]

people using it wronf

[sinful flare]

opinions on tainted lost

[quiet token]

Not played much

[tulip edge]

The right way to use it is in every situation ever

[lament lotus]

[sinful flare]

tainted lost is actually so fun
as long as you dont take any damage

theres a mechanic where the game blacklists several items for tainted lost and t lost has a sacred orb like effect

[tulip edge]

Bullet from enter the gungeon reference???

[sinful flare]

now funniest part is you'll never find holy mantle unless you use spindown in a particular way

funny lookin hair

[drifting lynx]

@graceful beacon join vc in kuba dupa

[kindred pewter]

damn you have nice hair

[unborn dome]

I need to start learning to speed run spelunky 2 co%

[tulip edge]

Jerma I'm your biggest fan

[lament lotus]

i mean

if you remove the heartie and change the hair colour

its effectively jerma

[vale temple]

[drifting lynx]

@graceful beacon join vc in kuba dupa

[lament lotus]

youte pepega

[vale temple]

you should tell them again

[fiery burrow]

Sof has a BEARD?!

[marsh ibex]

This is a rickroll

[fiery burrow]

I didn't know he was a dinosaur jesus

[lament lotus]

is this the new feature

[marsh ibex]

nuh uh

[vale temple]

no it's rickroll

[quiet token]

Channels name is red penguin

[fiery burrow]

the channels name is rick astley

[quiet token]

Missread mb

[lament lotus]

jjk opening is so mid

[marsh ibex]

What does that have to do with my rickroll

[wheat sail]

all anime music is the same anyway

[neat palm]

has there been some official comment from TC about whether or not the unity BS will delay the game further ?

[marsh ibex]

?sspsa

[white sail]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[vale temple]

no hesitation

[quiet token]

Nope so don't expect anything

[vale temple]

did you see me doing hush hitless

[lone crown]

Team Cherry spotted

( the reddit post of someone’s father meeting them during a business trip )

[hollow terrace]

I need to buy more hair products im in my early 20s midlife crisis

[wheat sail]

do you have long hair

[lone crown]

What type of hair

Curly?

[uncut citrus]

sharks dont have hair, dummies

[wheat sail]

think again

[lone crown]

You don’t have life

Only

[hollow terrace]

reeves does have a life

in PRISON

[twin bough]

Gottem

[lone crown]

No person with a soul would willingly make

[uncut citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901199704887541780/1091786490448715916/album_2023-04-01_13-08-09.gif

[sinful flare]

looks way more natural than the og does

[lone crown]

There was an original?

[manic abyss]

I hath bought Terraria

[sinful flare]

there was

[lone crown]

[sinful flare]

and there is
i dont know its name though

[winged kiln]

👍

[manic abyss]

now I shall be able to play 2D Minecraft

[sinful flare]

pesk gae

[winged kiln]

YOU LITTLE SHI-

[sinful flare]

it looks BALD

[manic abyss]

...?

[uncut citrus]

peak game

[twin bough]

Blocking you for this /jk

[uncut citrus]

peak gae

[hollow terrace]

I just need to buy some anti frizz conditioner for wavy hair

[vale temple]

terraria is fun, I'm sure kaan is willing to play w you

[manic abyss]

oh

[sinful flare]

peak gay

[vale temple]

send hair

[manic abyss]

because I don't have any other friends

[hollow terrace]

no

[vale temple]

in dms

[hollow terrace]

no

[lone crown]

198.131.89

[uncut citrus]

in MY dms?

[sinful flare]

in your dms

[uncut citrus]

in my dms

[sinful flare]

not your dma

[hollow terrace]

let me lament in PEACE

[marsh ibex]

sorry for your loss

[vale temple]

you can lament in dms

[sinful flare]

in my dms

[vale temple]

uhuh cant beat golem

[twin bough]

In your own dms

[marsh ibex]

I beat moon lord you punk

[vale temple]

joker did you beat golem

[uncut citrus]

Joky did you beat golem

[twin bough]

Aint golem a requirement for moon lord tho?

[lone crown]

Lament? As in Profundo Lamento?? Blasphemous 2 reference?????!

[uncut citrus]

i think Joky didnt beat golem guys

[lone crown]

(Please play Blasphemous 2, all of you will have zero regrets)

[coral jacinth]

Joker prolly can't even defeat king slime with zenith

[lone crown]

If you didn’t like the original game, the sequel is better than it in every possible way

Best indie game this year imo

Pizza Tower was goofy but Blasphemous 2 is so well crafted and impossible to ignore, especially after having a budget and learning from the faults of the original

[coral jacinth]

It uses unity I'd be doing them a favor by not installing it

[full rune]

I installed unity

[coral jacinth]

They owe you 20 cents

[brave light]

I'm sorry for stupid question, but is there new information about SilkSong?

[fiery burrow]

No

[full rune]

#hk-announcements

[fiery burrow]

They won't you to play their game dude

[lone crown]

They’d still profit though

[fiery burrow]

20 cents is nothing compared to the money you gave them to buy the game

and if you have gamepass xbox is being charged

[lone crown]

Yeah, also the logic of not buying at all is (obviously) worst case scenario lmao

[vale temple]

I could buy gum with 20 cents

[fiery burrow]

man TC would be so happy if no one bought their game 😔

[coral jacinth]

Why does everyone always give me serious responses when they know I'm joking 😭

[lone crown]

Where was the joke

[fiery burrow]

probably because your joke is kinda bad and nonsenical

[vale temple]

you give new user vibes, that explains the serious responses

[fiery burrow]

bro think he the "I'm new here, say hi" icon

[lone crown]

This chat’s used to goofballs anyways so it wouldn’t be too crazy to assume you weren’t joking

[quiet token]

Nope

[full rune]

Everyone knows I am joking whenever I speak

[winged kiln]

I’m a joke

[vale temple]

I even pinged

[fiery burrow]

man we should ban mean self talk

we should only be mean to other people!!

[winged kiln]

Oh Alr

Fuck you

[fiery burrow]

not yourself because you are awesome

[winged kiln]

Shut the hell up

[fiery burrow]

I hate you so much skiledissue

[winged kiln]

No one loves you

[sinful flare]

i love myself and i do mean it

[fiery burrow]

kaan gets it

[sinful flare]

no i lack caffeine god save me

[opaque sigil]

Cap

[fiery burrow]

Tammo be cool for once

We're all cool

[opaque sigil]

No I’m not cool why would you ask me to be something I’m not

“Hey star can you be a frog for a bit”

This is what you sound like smh

[fiery burrow]

ribbit

[violet dune]

frong

[opaque sigil]

So now you’re lying to me

[fiery burrow]

ribbit?

[wheat sail]

shiny

[fiery coral]

Hi joking whenever I speak

[uncut citrus]

Unique new old pfp

[rapid topaz]

omg Unique

[fiery coral]

Etimo

🐺 🖌️

[manic abyss]

Terraria experts of Sscord, I ask you, what world size is best?

[full rune]

Medium

[vale temple]

better to start with small-medium if you're not playing with others

[rapid topaz]

how are you doing ?

[uncut citrus]

IBG!!!

i like big worlds

[quartz cave]

YOOOO ZOROTE AND MAZOTE

[uncut citrus]

medium too small

[quartz cave]

THEYRE BACK!!!!!

[manic abyss]

I'm not playing with others

[fiery coral]

I'm doing good! Was about to head to bed, it struck midnight about 5 minutes ago

[manic abyss]

UNIQUE

[uncut citrus]

what would my emotes be?

[full rune]

Statistically medium best. I always go large though

[vale temple]

@uncut citrus can you send ismoli what i drew

[quartz cave]

Omg goodnight unique

[marsh ibex]

We ran out of emote slots

[fiery burrow]

Hello silkers

[quartz cave]

Lamw

[flat remnant]

unique

[uncut citrus]

i mean i would but why do you even have to go by me, did he block you or something? 🥹

[flat remnant]

what was the last one

[fiery burrow]

what was the final emoji, ?

[marsh ibex]

ligma

[wheat sail]

Remove the emote

[marsh ibex]

[vale temple]

yes

[vale temple]

ligma?

[fiery coral]

[vale temple]

i trust you reeeves

[fiery coral]

DAUD

[uncut citrus]

Mimina did that

[vale temple]

did what

[fiery coral]

Daud you had an exam right

[uncut citrus]

the annimaton

[fiery coral]

🚪

[vale temple]

now od your part

[sinful flare]

my question has been ignoredeth
are you gonna stay here :dwayne:

[quartz cave]

Noway scarfy hi

[wheat sail]

I did that animation

[surreal remnant]

Hiya reeves, Hiya sof

[silver oak]

Oh Sven says hi btw Unique

[fiery coral]

For a few days at least, yes!

[surreal remnant]

stay foreva

[fiery coral]

I'll always call him Pichu, hello Pichu

(Unless he doesn't like that name anymore in which case let me know)

[sinful flare]

i think i know exactly what my brain needs................. TURN UP DEVIL TRIGGER

[silver oak]

I think he’s fine with either

[fiery coral]

ALL THESE VOICES INSIDE OF MY HE-EAD
BLINDING MY SIGHT IN A CURTAIN OF RE-ED

[vale temple]

balls

[sinful flare]

FRUSTRATION IS GETTING BIGGER