sk-discussion

[opaque sigil]

That’s not at all contingent on pricing changes

Completely different issue

[iron bronze]

yeah thats completely different

[rapid condor]

I really hope the Unity tax doesn't cause Team Cherry to have to delay Silksong to an even more later date (although completely understandable if they have to)

[lament lotus]

you couldnt have said it better

[iron bronze]

something about a merge with ironsource

[trim estuary]

They’ll actually release it sooner

[iron bronze]

i didnt know about that until like yesterday

[lament lotus]

piraters are pretty good at their job suprisingly

[opaque sigil]

There’s no reason for it to

[astral dagger]

this may not include the “emotion stress fees” to the financial team from this which is another few million. Along with yearly fees on top of that for “permanent damage to their feeling from this”

[lament lotus]

window or joker pin something

[tawdry valley]

They’re called PIRATES because they PIRATE

[trim estuary]

ARRGHH

[lament lotus]

YARRR

[hollow terrace]

pin what

[lucid peak]

unity single handedly brought back physical game copies, atleast for the ones that can afford it

[iron bronze]

Unity decides to increase the tax to $0.50 cuz fuck you

[kindred pewter]

AYYYY MATEY

[vale temple]

this ratio

[iron bronze]

cant stop them anyways

[tawdry valley]

Ain’t no way physical copies cost more

[hollow terrace]

its anyone guess yall can argue about it

[sinful flare]

except theyre still digital

[astral dagger]

Time to get free money from Unity with the lawsuit.

[opaque sigil]

You know that making up random shit to complain about really isn’t a useful contribution especially when there are actual problems, right?

[iron bronze]

crazy how physical copies cost more despite the fact that rn they're actually better

[rapid condor]

Could you pin me? 🥺

[twin bough]

Who are you?

[trim estuary]

Someone get the spear

[sinful flare]

who am i

[lucid peak]

it's an added cost to development, so indie game devs have to switch engines

[opaque sigil]

pcs also often don’t have a way to use physical copies these days

[lament lotus]

ddx's message about the revenue charges

[twin bough]

Kaangaming

[rapid condor]

Who are you?

[sinful flare]

yeah who are you

[quartz cave]

@hollow terrace pin one of jokys embarrasing messages

[rapid topaz]

remember PC disks 👴

[sinful flare]

convincing

[twin bough]

I have no idea

[tawdry valley]

It doesn’t affect Silksong

[lament lotus]

yeah thats what im trying to say

[sinful flare]

man back in the day we used to install windows 10 on floppy disks

[iron bronze]

it probably will eventually affect silksong

[olive bobcat]

It's all or nothing when I play SBR

[lucid peak]

imagine if thanks to the unity changes silksong now releases before the year ends

[rapid condor]

It actually affects Team Cherry's april fools game: Milksong

[trim estuary]

This is not Deepwoken

[tawdry valley]

It might educate people who just heard about it, but nobody reads the pins anyways

[lament lotus]

true

[opaque sigil]

There is no conceivable way that would make any level of sense

[iron bronze]

if hollow knight was 15 USD, divide 200,000 by that and you only need 13,333 downloads
they can certainly get way more than that

[rapid topaz]

I was welding my components to build my PC aaah good old time ye ye

[tawdry valley]

No

[astral dagger]

Silksong should in theory be able to just turn around and sue Unity for rights of their game at the cost of not being able to develop more games with unity.

[vale temple]

???

[opaque sigil]

That’s just wrong

[trim estuary]

Oh yeah? Oh… yeah….

[tawdry valley]

Scrap all development post 2023, why? To avoid 15k in fees to unity

[iron bronze]

if silksong were the same price as hollow knight, they would most likely very quickly pass the threshold for revenue and installations

[kindred pewter]

I will put a pin against your skull

[opaque sigil]

And they could take the fees

[rapid condor]

[kindred pewter]

bro is racing with no horse lmao

[sinful flare]

horseless

[opaque sigil]

Ditching years of development isn’t really free either

[kindred pewter]

mf is horseless

[olive bobcat]

Killed 7 people horseless 😎

[iron bronze]

this is all horrible
cuz unity is a genuinely good engine

[lament lotus]

too bad

[kindred pewter]

what stand are you using?

[tawdry valley]

It’s mid

[lament lotus]

unreal way better

[olive bobcat]

TA4 with boxing defense

[rapid condor]

You know what? Unity is no longer invited to my birthday party

[signal crag]

yeah, honestly they are just too deep into the development for a engine change to even be an option.

[iron bronze]

unreal puts your computer on life support lets be fr

[kindred pewter]

ah I see

godot guys

[opaque sigil]

It’s still a possibility that unity will revoke its changes, it already walked back dupe installs

[lament lotus]

HAVE YOU SEEN THE TECH DEMOS
also pc issue

[twin bough]

Actual skill issue

[olive bobcat]

I love killing other TA4s, putting them in their place

[iron bronze]

godot is good for 2d
unfortunately not as great for 3d

i am mostly upset because
i only do 3d games

[lament lotus]

whar??

[kindred pewter]

yeah silksong in godot would work ngl

[lucid peak]

it would be way more than 15k

[raw fulcrum]

Oops replied to wrong message

[copper knot]

get better computer

[lament lotus]

50k oh no

[kindred pewter]

TA4 is kinda braindead

[olive bobcat]

Absolutely

[iron bronze]

godot has mainly been focused on 2d games and is now just starting on 3d recently
its decent but doesnt really match up to the others like unity and unreal

[olive bobcat]

But that makes people think they can win any fight

[tawdry valley]

They’d need like 750k sales

[lament lotus]

ig so but godot devs are based

[tawdry valley]

They’ll have more than that for sure

[iron bronze]

my computer might be able to run unreal safely but i'd rather just increase my storage and ram and hope for the best

[olive bobcat]

In my last game I found two TWOHs attacking a TA4 who was on the run

[opaque sigil]

Profit would also still vastly exceed the fees

[iron bronze]

they must take over the industry

[olive bobcat]

I ended up 2v1ing the TWOHs, rocked them, only got hit 1-2 times

[lament lotus]

the hell is TA4

a jojo stand yeah but which

[vale temple]

tusk act 4

[olive bobcat]

Tusk Act 4

[tawdry valley]

Armored core gameplay looking good

[lament lotus]

oh pink guy i think

[olive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/edited-discord-message-big-chungus-fortnite-gif-23270842

[lucid peak]

it would be something like 560k fee and thats going off of the sales from 2019

[iron bronze]

which is why i brought up reinstalls, piracy, updates, and generally anyone who wants to be a douche using VMs

[kindred pewter]

no way they lost
I know made in heaven has bad stats but goddamn lol

[lament lotus]

i wish sbr animated relases

[tribal kayak]

hornet isn't the hollow knight for me

[tawdry valley]

Huh?

Unity enterprise fee totals:
100k - $1250
500k - $25,250
1 million -$35,250
2 million -$45,250
+10k every million installs

@lucid peak

[lament lotus]

BROS NEEDS TO GO TO 3RD GRADE MATHH 🔥

[iron bronze]

you as a customer arent paying for update but the devs are going to end up paying because you now have to install that new update

[olive bobcat]

The World Over Heaven

I think they were vamps too

[tawdry valley]

TC isn’t selling 50 million copies in a month my guy

[lament lotus]

silksong is NOT getting 50 million installs

[twin bough]

50 billion installs sounds more realistic 💪

[iron bronze]

and once again
nothing is there to stop unity from increasing the fees

[tawdry valley]

And they aren’t releasing in December to avoid unity, which they can’t do anyways

[lament lotus]

IT WILL BE

[coarse leaf]

Silksong is gonna be the first game to reach 50 billion downloads

[opaque sigil]

Unity has already identified installs as something only charged once per device, and says they plan not on targeting pirated installs (which they would plausibly not be able to do if they wanted)

[kindred pewter]

oh thw world over heaven
yeah skill issues on their part

[olive bobcat]

Silksong is gonna be the first game

[quartz cave]

Omg aluo send fakes

[kindred pewter]

how could you lose with a twoh 😭

[iron bronze]

thats where VMs come in

[opaque sigil]

Updates wouldn’t count either because they would be on the same machine

[olive bobcat]

No I'm gonna use the bathroom instead

[iron bronze]

i think they said that updates count
ill go find the post

[wind wind]

its joever...

[lament lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-rancher-dervish-slime-glass-desert-meme-relatable-gif-26975043

[opaque sigil]

So you’re just fixating on a hypothetical person using hundreds of vms to install on each one separately

[astral dagger]

Welcome in todays video we will show you how to mod Unity so it doesn’t know you install stuff with it.

[lucid peak]

yea i didnt use the enterprise fees and just applied the unity plus/personal fees

[iron bronze]

one person? no
and hundreds? also no

its just thats its very much a possibility and people are unhinged

it shouldnt be a possibility

[tawdry valley]

Slime rancher fans doing everything in their power to resist playing animal crossing. (They’ll never see the light of day again)

[iron bronze]

trying to get to unity forums but buttons dont work this is fun

[full nexus]

Lies of p looks good

[astral dagger]

Unity stock is dropping fast.

[full nexus]

Any of y’all gonna get lies of p

[lament lotus]

NUH UH ITS 60 DOLLARS

[iron bronze]

ok found it

[lament lotus]

actually

[iron bronze]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/unity-plan-pricing-and-packaging-updates.1482750/

[lament lotus]

i found a good idea

[quartz cave]

YRUEEE also stolen gif from @quartz cave

[iron bronze]

Q: If a user reinstalls/redownloads a game / changes their hardware, will that count as multiple installs?
A: Yes. The creator will need to pay for all future installs. The reason is that Unity doesn’t receive end-player information, just aggregate data.

unless they've already decided to revert it

[marsh ibex]

Pretty sure they did

[twin bough]

Who?

[marsh ibex]

or maybe they didn’t

[lament lotus]

i think nintendo should be charged 20 cents per purchase and it all goes to charitys

[iron bronze]

there was also this:

Q: If a game that's made enough money to be over the threshold has a demo of the same game, do installs of the demo also induce a charge?
A: If it's early access, Beta, or a demo of the full game then yes. If you can get from the demo to a full game then yes. If it's not, like a single level that can't upgrade then no.

[opaque sigil]

They already changed that

[astral dagger]

Unity thought for about 5 minutes and keeps changing this. Goofy.

[marsh ibex]

So you want them to have free tax write offs?

[iron bronze]

well thats
sane at least

[lament lotus]

i overlooked that

[marsh ibex]

Cuz that’s how you get free tax write offs

[olive bobcat]

Some surprising skill issues in SBR

[iron bronze]

so i guess the real issues is just things like piracy and VMs then

[olive bobcat]

I like mocking my enemies while I fight them

Even better if it's a team I'm sweeping

[iron bronze]

did they go back on this one too?

[surreal remnant]

i thought you were supposed to have your friend appraise a painting you have for way more than it’s worth then donate it to a gallery and claim the value of the painting (why modern art sucks)

[kindred pewter]

imagine teaming up but still losig lmao

[opaque sigil]

Getting tax write offs for charitable donations is like the one type of tax write off that would be cool but it would need to require an adequate amount

[lament lotus]

blud is NOT luffy

[astral dagger]

Robloixs game dev studio exists (it’s horrible don’t use it roblox takes a 90% cut of game devs profit)

[olive bobcat]

I found a RHCP and SP (both vamps) in tundra once

[opaque sigil]

They can just create demos to align with the other part of the policy

[olive bobcat]

I killed RHCP and mid-uppercut on SP I said "you guys are really weak"

[opaque sigil]

It would also obviously be changed by the only one install per machine thing

At least for people who buy it, still would be ideal to create the demo separately

[astral dagger]

What about someone automatically changing their hardware key or whatever it is idk my brains melted to make it seem different systems?

[weary siren]

what if someone runs a script to continuously uninstall and reinstall the game on their machine or multiple machines :|

[opaque sigil]

Only the first one would count

[iron bronze]

i imagine this wouldnt really be an issue if it was just a percentage based on revenue
and not based on installs

[weary siren]

well there's that at least but god this is so stupid

[quartz yew]

Unity is completely non-transparent with this issue.

[opaque sigil]

Probably not

[cobalt sigil]

what stand?

[weary siren]

it'd be a lot simpler at least though i still cant imagine people would be happy

[cobalt sigil]

ta4?

[iron bronze]

oh mb i was wrong
its not 200k installs
its 100k
thats not any better but

[opaque sigil]

The issue is in large part due to the unprecedented method of implementation

[surreal remnant]

it’s about 50% better

[olive bobcat]

The guy I'm BDing had KC or smth

[marsh ibex]

also how badly they’re rolling out changes

[tawdry valley]

And how fast too

[opaque sigil]

It’s clear they didn’t think it through very well

[tawdry valley]

Really weird how they don’t want to do a revenue split

[surreal remnant]

anyone got a tldr for what unity is doing?

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291184728944410624/1151561179861368922/image.png

[tawdry valley]

The decent news is that costs are based off of your actual success

[opaque sigil]

What a surprise

[quartz yew]

Why the fuck do they want to charge people for making a game? For creating a product using their engine? It just seems like such a bizarre business strategy.

[opaque sigil]

What

[tawdry valley]

…..

[cobalt sigil]

they want money

[tawdry valley]

That’s ironic right?

[opaque sigil]

Gotta be

[magic narwhal]

Uh, no that would be an appropriate approach but is not at all what they’re doing

[iron bronze]

charging people $0.20 per installation after 100k installs and a $200k revenue threshold is met
they're not explaining how they're going to calculate it but they basically want us to trust in them and they're not being very transparent

[shell yacht]

its a tool, you pay to use it
but the hot topic is an insanely unreasonable ask from unity

[quartz yew]

I meant unity charging devs for making a game. Not the players

[surreal remnant]

so they’re being greedy and vague

[magic narwhal]

Instead they’re taking a cut of revenue even if someone gets the game for free from a different platform

[opaque sigil]

…

[tawdry valley]

Because the developers are the ones using the service

[opaque sigil]

Do you understand what a game engine is

[tawdry valley]

The service they’ve already been paying for

[shell yacht]

its a tool, you pay to use it
but the hot topic is an insanely unreasonable ask from unity

[cobalt sigil]

money is exchanged for goods and services

[marsh ibex]

You already have to pay for game engines lol

Why would they be free

[tawdry valley]

The problem is how they’re charging their service

[magic narwhal]

Like if it goes up for free on PS+ or Gamepass, that’s a fee from Unity per download

[marsh ibex]

yeah

[tawdry valley]

Not the fact that they ask for money lol

[iron bronze]

pretty much
im mostly worried about piracy becoming an issue because you'll basically get charged for profits you arent even making

[astral dagger]

Here’s how to fix it: this change will be applying to all games starting development past 2025
Any already made/in progress games will not have this change apply so long as the finished product is rolled out before 2026. Any “dlc” made for games this doesn’t apply to will also not have this apply even if considerable as a SLIGHTLY altered version of the game up to 2027 wherein sufficiently large enough dlc (at or greater than game price) may be considered for applying the charge IF the main game is except with the possibility of also being except applying to such.

[opaque sigil]

There’s no reason to fix it the implementation is fundamentally bizarre and pointless

[trim estuary]

what

[marsh ibex]

that’s a lotta words

[quartz yew]

I think my wording is a bit off. I apologize for that. I meant to charge the devs for already making the game and getting the revenues from... an already published game.

[marsh ibex]

too bad I’m not reading em

[iron bronze]

your options are Personal which is free but has the Unity splash screen which usually steers people away, or spend $2000 on Unity Pro so you can do that.

Unity+? Gone. Doesn't exist anymore

[magic narwhal]

Here’s how to fix it: don’t charge for anything unrelated to use of the engine…..

[quartz yew]

Damn now I feel stupid.

[marsh ibex]

Anyways time to read the words

[iron bronze]

I was hearing that people were having their Unity+ subscriptions forcefully changed to Unity Pro which seems pretty...not okay?

[tawdry valley]

Ya

[opaque sigil]

This is related to the use of the engine

[quartz yew]

The hell?

[marsh ibex]

how do you quantify an “in progress game”

[trim estuary]

As in they were forced to pay for it or it was converted into it?

[astral dagger]

Unities too greedy for that so that’s the best I think we could end up with - they still go through with horrible plan but they give reasonable time to abandon ship.

[trim estuary]

Silksong

[magic narwhal]

What the hell is that price tag

[coarse leaf]

unity fell off 💔

[trim estuary]

It’s $1000 a year not a one time $2000 price

[magic narwhal]

Unity was already kinda losing the battle to Unreal ngl

[trim estuary]

Rusts and Ruin I hate subscription based services

[coarse leaf]

oh yeah ofc

[iron bronze]

well as long as they had time on their unity+ subscription they would have been fine until the next billing period most likely

[quartz yew]

Anyway everybody forget what I typed.

[magic narwhal]

But now they’ve run off the cash cow that was the indie dev market, so it’s probably dead soon

[gleaming pumice]

is this even legal?

[coarse leaf]

no

[iron bronze]

https://unity.com/pricing#plans-student-and-hobbyist
here is their current pricing plans

[gleaming pumice]

i've been lurking watching the discussion - yep i figured

[astral dagger]

Published advertisements or announcements of such a game even if release date is not announced with a credited developer team.
This does technically give a deadline to massive projects but it’s hopefully long enough they can restart with a other engine or publish it in time.

[iron bronze]

doesnt feel like it
cant be

[hasty oar]

It doesn’t matter

[magic narwhal]

Oh absolutely not, they’re basically asking for twice the amount of money for the same game

[iron bronze]

$2040 for Unity Pro each year
oh boy
how fun

[trim estuary]

What’s the pricing like for Unreal?

[opaque sigil]

Not what they were talking about nor would that be illegal

[violet dune]

I thought it was 1k

[olive bobcat]

It's completely legal

[violet dune]

free I think

[astral dagger]

Don’t they mainly make money off their asset store?

[violet dune]

unreal is also open source

[iron bronze]

it might have been before but currently no

[marsh ibex]

That’s unfair, is it not?

[ruby crown]

Yeesh already Team Cherry already had to deal with Xbox rushing them
Now Unity is rushing to threaten them millions of dollars if it doesn't release before January

[surreal remnant]

“xbox rushing them”????????

[olive bobcat]

When did Xbox rush them

[marsh ibex]

Games get developed way before announcement

[trim estuary]

Really? I thought it was like unity where after you make a certain amount of money you gotta pay for it

[iron bronze]

imma check what unreal engine's prices are
i do know that they do take a percentage past a certain point tho

[opaque sigil]

Astonishing how every part of this is wrong

[cold lark]

Unity on their way to be greedy 🏃‍♂️

[magic narwhal]

I don’t think you can claim royalties from third parties like this ngl

[violet dune]

I'm pretty sure you dont

[marsh ibex]

something something luke Skywalker

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/amazing-word-wrong-gif-14585699

[astral dagger]

Howso? It gives them a year or so of breathing space to finish or switch over with ways to publish dlc for such a game.

[olive bobcat]

Look Skywater

[opaque sigil]

That’s not what they’re doing lmao

[iron bronze]

ok so unreal actually has pricing options
but its cheaper

[marsh ibex]

I just said why

[ruby crown]

"ALL THE GAMES SHOWN ON THIS LIST CONFIRMED TO COME OUT IN EXACTLY ONE YEAR" - Xbox

[surreal remnant]

TC chose to be included in the xbox announcement

[twin bough]

Star war

[hasty oar]

What language does unreal use

[magic narwhal]

Xbox wasn’t rushing shit lol

[opaque sigil]

Bruh why is it that when bad shit happens people always make the worst fucking arguments about why it’s bad

[trim estuary]

Yeah but it uses C++

[violet dune]

my issue with unreal is that for the free version you either have to build from source or download epic launcher to install it

[marsh ibex]

published advertisements or announcements

Games are developed decently before announcement or ads or release dates

[surreal remnant]

TC could’ve opted out, or as they did, delay it

[twin bough]

Once again what is wrong with the epic launcher?

[astral dagger]

But usually they announce games somewhat, and as said published not public announcements REGISTERED dev teams is what is being looked for to make sure the game is actually being made up to then.

[trim estuary]

You can’t pog at the sequels past the Force Awakens that’s not how it works

[coarse leaf]

team cherry isnt a victim

[opaque sigil]

What does the epic launcher have to do with anything

[uneven marsh]

Teacher said to have a free day, so here I am.

[trim estuary]

Bagel does not like epic launcher

[twin bough]

They had good worldbuilding

[tawdry valley]

I posted this in may:

Games from SGF that aren’t out yet.
-witchfire
-the invincible
-Ark 2
-die by the blade (will release late 2023)
-delayed from feb 2023
-Nivalis
-starfield
-Hollow knight Silksong

[trim estuary]

Welcome to Unity discussion

[twin bough]

Wither literally just mentioned it

[astral dagger]

Isn’t starfield out?

[iron bronze]

So Personal is just free, but they have the Enterprise program which costs $1,500 per year
Compared to Unity's Entireprise program that costs $4,950 per year

[marsh ibex]

People hate epic launcher because they hate it

[cold lark]

Unity when they see bad decisions 🏃‍♀️

[tawdry valley]

Ya

[marsh ibex]

Most of the reasons given are pretty shitty all things considered

[iron bronze]

They have a custom license but that has negotiable terms so...I'm not gonna count that

[tawdry valley]

difference between may and September

[magic narwhal]

It was a release window provided by TC, they couldn’t abide by it and had to delay

[violet dune]

my issue is i just dont want the extra bloat on my pc

[astral dagger]

Negotiate for no install fee.

[magic narwhal]

Again, Xbox didn’t rush shit

[hollow terrace]

btw with how leth shared their convo with xbox, it was mutual argreement of "probably" https://youtu.be/pDSVnMEV3K8?t=6362

[trim estuary]

Do you have any idea how large UE5 is

[opaque sigil]

That’s not really true but whatever close enough

[iron bronze]

You'd need an infinite charisma stat for something like that

[marsh ibex]

also if Xbox was rushing it
The delay most likely wouldn’t have happened lol

[violet dune]

yeah

[trim estuary]

The EGS is nothing compared to that

[tawdry valley]

It’s like you can say literally anything if it’s not legally binding

[marsh ibex]

like “we’re rushing we’re rushing actually take all the time you need”

[iron bronze]

I've done minor research
Some people say they've gotten it down to like 30 GBs
Others say its in the 200s

[astral dagger]

Hiesters, let’s get to heisting.

[trim estuary]

When I briefly used it it was 50GBs I think

[iron bronze]

my computer is gonna be crying
im gonna have to upgrade some parts

[tawdry valley]

You can also do anything, including rush or relax, and release whenever you want

[ruby crown]

Meant more rushing as in
They were making promises on Team Cherry's behalf putting unfair expectations

[surreal remnant]

me patiently waiting for ss discussion to go back to normal

[violet dune]

isnt this like

[tawdry valley]

TC owns the game. Every platform wants to sell the game.

[violet dune]

the 5th time we've discussed unity

[iron bronze]

i havent even realized but unreal is genuinely just
cheaper

[tawdry valley]

TC gets to choose when they give out the game

[magic narwhal]

But yeah charging per download is such a weird way to collect royalties, at that point Unity is effectively trying to claim the games created using the engine as their property which is concerning

[iron bronze]

idk but people have been losing their mind over these last two days

[marsh ibex]

It’s something they did not have to agree with

[twin bough]

I'd go to the other server but no one is active

[stoic sigil]

[surreal remnant]

same lol

[sinful flare]

exact same reason smh

[surreal remnant]

the other other one is dead too

[astral dagger]

At 5 am chat was talking about unity and 7 hours later it still is.

[vale temple]

you should invite me

[twin bough]

That ones always dead now

[weary siren]

nintendo direct tomorrow everybody

[olive bobcat]

[elder adder]

There will be no silk tomorrow

[weary siren]

anything in particular you guys think will be there?

[trim estuary]

anyway
It's Unreal how all these GameMakers are coming together in Unity like some kind of Clickteam

[surreal remnant]

sadly

[sinful flare]

zamn which one

[iron bronze]

im genuinely surprised
i thought that for what unreal could do it would be more expensive

[twin bough]

Satisfactory

[sinful flare]

oh

[ruby crown]

Yes, doesn't change the fact Xbox was making promises for them even if Team Cherry didn't need to follow them?

[sinful flare]

thats not satisfactory at all

[tawdry valley]

I only see one D

[livid oracle]

I don't think Xbox can rush them it's gonna be on all platforms why would Xbox have a say over like PS or Nintendo for example

[surreal remnant]

look at the beginning of this new build #932761153703149659 message

[iron bronze]

probably because there are an insane amount of really well known games made on unity

[weary siren]

maybe splatoon?

[cold lark]

Unity on their way to steal money 🏃

[uneven marsh]

Hi kaan!!

[weary siren]

not silksong

[surreal remnant]

i wonder what that link looks like to people not in the server

[twin bough]

BIG

[astral dagger]

Yeah. Ultrakill, silksong, hollow knight, half the games.

[violet dune]

ahh yes #uknown

[violet dune]

what server

[magic narwhal]

Releases windows get changed all the time for a lot of games, SS did not invent the concept lol

[trim estuary]

The Archives

[tawdry valley]

It takes me to the satisfactory discord

[surreal remnant]

the square is 41x41 foundations so 328mx328m

[vale temple]

shouldn't one X stay
I didn't do these for months

[ruby crown]

Literally never said that lol

[marsh ibex]

Did you watch the video Window sent

[magic narwhal]

If people expected the window to be absolute with no confirmed date that’s on them

[iron bronze]

watch december 31st these games just start pulling themselves from every publisher 💀

[marsh ibex]

because you’re talking like you didn’t watch the video window sent

[olive bobcat]

It's boolean, not regular math

[tawdry valley]

@surreal remnant this is kinda neat

[marsh ibex]

It was even timestamped within the link itself

[vale temple]

yes, I didn't do boolean for months

[magic narwhal]

It’s also not rushing TC, it’s just repeating a timeframe they gave

[weary siren]

i miss Hornet, guys. i miss her a lot.

[tawdry valley]

Ignore the satisfactory drug dealer+/steel factory owner

[stoic sigil]

Hair net 😔

[trim estuary]

She’s DEAD!!!! Lace KILLED HER!!!

[twin bough]

Oh thats cool

[weary siren]

ive had this nickname since the xbox game pass trailer 😭

[hasty tinsel]

will Silksong release be affected by the new Unity royalties?

[cold lark]

I miss 1745

[trim estuary]

Probably not

[surreal remnant]

only does that for public servers afaik

[weary siren]

id say possibly and even likely, but nothings confirmed of course.

[magic narwhal]

At the very least, there may be a price increase

[stoic sigil]

This is literally 1984 by George Orwell

[tawdry valley]

Unity enterprise fee totals:
100k - $1250
500k - $25,250
1 million -$35,250
2 million -$45,250
+10k every million installs

[magic narwhal]

Worst case, we have a HK situation again where they need to swap engines

[twin bough]

Chat i will return in 5 minutes please go back to normal

[marsh ibex]

Here I’ll even clip it for you

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxE6nfxh_ED4pgbV1KYPTIFpTpZeC4BDMj?si=rdshLYP-QG3GXVfN

[magic narwhal]

This is pretty normal for this chat ngl

[eager creek]

Oh chat's still on about this? I popped in while getting ready this morning and saw the stuff

[tawdry valley]

They are not going to swap engines to avoid 0.1 cent off the 10 dollars

[marsh ibex]

“Hey are you guys planning on releasing it in the next year?”

“Yeah”

[magic narwhal]

Which is why I think price increases is more likely

[twin bough]

Usually chat is silly

[magic narwhal]

Try Reddit?

[twin bough]

Ew

[dusk quail]

They should add me into silksong so I'm hollow knight related

[twin bough]

I dont want braindead i want silly

[uneven marsh]

Pluh

[cold lark]

first Unity charging money and now Xbox is rushing team cherry?

[zinc crow]

Hi random guy in ss discussion

[stoic sigil]

They should make me the Silksong

[magic narwhal]

Xbox isn’t rushing shit smh

[uneven marsh]

Wait, when did that happen

[dusk quail]

Well how is unity gonna make money

[coarse leaf]

The hell is that third image?

[eager creek]

Based Tech pfp

[tawdry valley]

I’ve been chosen from the horde. I must answer (?)

[real basalt]

oh no ss release date again

[magic narwhal]

By charging people like they already do for using the engine…..

[onyx dawn]

Crowsworn?

[real basalt]

was it the direct

[magic narwhal]

Not charging per download from third party platforms

[hasty oar]

Yeah I think it’s croesworm

[cold lark]

someone lied Xbox didn’t do anything

[stoic sigil]

5/12/23

[dusk quail]

Oh, yeah that sucks

[candid iron]

Huh I was expecting more chaos here

[hasty oar]

Hi rain world person

[candid iron]

Hi

[iron bronze]

they mainly made their money from subscriptions and software sales
and i mean

[marsh ibex]

I wonder what other game Leth is a PR guy for

Hmm… it eludes me

[iron bronze]

i think they take 30% from things sold in the asset store?

[coarse leaf]

I forgot Leth works on that.

[marsh ibex]

I think it’s ravenslurs?

[steady flare]

i almost forgot that i had a dream one time where a Nintendo Direct was playing in my PC and there was footage of a real life Tarantula crawling in a glass container and there was subtitles below saying ''Hello im Toby Fox''

[stoic sigil]

Birdoath

[real basalt]

THE HELL IS TTHAT
2000 PER PURCHASE

[coarse leaf]

banned for slur usage

[steady flare]

and the chat went ape shit saying stuff like ''MUFFET'' or Silksong

[violet dune]

toby fox moment

[uneven marsh]

Even if it did happen, that makes perfect sense.

[real basalt]

LIKE
THAT MEANS THEY LOSE PROFIt PER PURCHASE

[iron bronze]

what

[uneven marsh]

Xbox does that shit

[magic narwhal]

People need to learn to read jfc

[iron bronze]

no no
per year for unity pro which is currently the only alternative for plans

[real basalt]

whoops

[stoic sigil]

This made me laugh

[real basalt]

but like really

[tawdry valley]

Unity enterprise fee totals:
100k - $1250
500k - $25,250
1 million -$35,250
2 million -$45,250
+10k every million installs

@lucid peak

[cold lark]

Xbox isn’t rushing shit yet

[real basalt]

IT COSTS DEVS FOR PEOPLE TO INSTALL WHAT

[iron bronze]

you are charged $0.20 per installation after 100k installs and $200k
and i keep reiterating how bad it is that they wont tell us how they're going about tracking that

thats very sketchy

[magic narwhal]

Yeah it’s really stupid

[tawdry valley]

It’s gonna be a mess next fiscal quarter yeah

[astral dagger]

Watch as half the games get removed for malware forced by Unity.

[real basalt]

Corporate bull....

[cold lark]

Is that legal?

[dusk quail]

HOW IS UNITY SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY THEN 😭

[tawdry valley]

I should probably do the math for the less forgiving plans

[magic narwhal]

I dunno how it’s even legal to collect royalties like that through third party use

[iron bronze]

feels pretty illegal
and scummy

[astral dagger]

Because those “install trackers” are near identical to full on malware.

[quartz yew]

Anything else but this

[eager creek]

Don't people pay money for their program anyways

[violet dune]

godot sweep

[real basalt]

It costs or unity right

[dusk quail]

Idk, I think that charging for installing is reasonable

[magic narwhal]

If Unity had a storefront to download the games directly from there then sure that’s reasonable and within rights

[iron bronze]

they could lie to you, which would be very illegal but you wouldnt be able to refute it because you cant actually check it yourself
or they could get the information from the customer's computer which would probably be super illegal

[real basalt]

TO AN EXTET

[astral dagger]

Asset store. Their premium plans. Being able to buy full game ownership (AND UNITY DOESN’T DOUBLE CROSS AND BETRAY)

[cedar radish]

I want to believe

[real basalt]

No they bury it in the 50000000000000000 pages of legal jargon

[coarse leaf]

Oh, there’s another one?

[marsh ibex]

nth user learns how YT recommendations function

[marsh ibex]

Read pins

[iron bronze]

they charge a flat rate for installs
instead charging a percentage based on revenue

[magic narwhal]

But like, these games are housed on third party plats, Unity doesn’t touch them after giving devs the licence to use the engine

[merry bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/themercslaughing-gif-20727637

[iron bronze]

if you redownload the game on another device, even if you already bought it, pretty sure that counts as a new install

[real basalt]

Good point.... what if you want to mke a cheap g\me

And different country markets

[iron bronze]

not anymore
discount?
nah
dont even try

[slender musk]

"Install-bombing" could be a thing, too

[dusk quail]

Wait I can't see while clicking on it, how did you do that

[real basalt]

This world man

[steady flare]

fake but possible

[quartz yew]

I widh ai tech bros would develop an ai that summarises corporate 1000 page terms and legal services instead of making an ai that steals art and writing.

[coarse leaf]

idc what u hate since i hate u common cat w :hollowd: :hollowd: :hollowd:

[tawdry valley]

“Wow! I was just thinking about that. How lucky of youtube”

[magic narwhal]

This is going to murder indies on Gamepass, Steam Sale, PS+, etc

[cobalt sigil]

you would need diff computers though so idk how effective install bombing could be

[marsh ibex]

good

I hate indies

[real basalt]

go for it

[marsh ibex]

I want their market to crumble to ash

[cold lark]

me uninstalling and reinstalling the same game repeatedly to make someone broke

[iron bronze]

time to go to unreal

[quartz yew]

I'm not smart enough to coee ai.

[real basalt]

name 3 good aaa game that are recent

[tawdry valley]

Don’t spend hundreds on extra machines to fake download games in

[cobalt sigil]

didnt they say that wont work

[magic narwhal]

BG3

[real basalt]

Well if unity business gets screwed

[magic narwhal]

Armoured Core 6

[violet dune]

armored core 6, hi fi rush, bg3

[tawdry valley]

Spend 10 dollars on a really sharp rock, and run into unity HQ

[marsh ibex]

why

[iron bronze]

apparently they changed their mind and said they wont charge for that
but that wont stop you from using VMs though...

[magic narwhal]

Tears of the Kingdom

[iron bronze]

if you're willing to be petty enough...

[quartz yew]

Just rally up 1000 haters and go ballistic.

[real basalt]

namea good game

[slender musk]

Interesting thing about that

Apparently in the cases of games received from stuff like that, the cost is transfered to the company offering the service

If you get HK on game pass, they plan to give Microsoft the bill

[marsh ibex]

That’s not an answer

[tawdry valley]

If you hate a game dev, don’t install bomb them, just bomb them

[marsh ibex]

why do I have to prove myself to you

[real basalt]

Ture

[magic narwhal]

Oh then that’s a great way to get sued

[cobalt sigil]

i think that will still hurt indies just more indirectly, microsoft will just offer less indies if it costs more

[marsh ibex]

damn my mom just called me a friendless loser

[quartz yew]

With the recent string of corporations not giving a shit and wanting more money, I have a bad feeling they're gonna stop streaming indie games due to this policy...

[real basalt]

Actually think

[dusk quail]

Is deep rock aaa?

[magic narwhal]

Does downloading from cloud count as redownloading?

[cobalt sigil]

unlucky

[iron bronze]

thats why i keep saying VMs
you can basically pretend to have several different computers on just one host computer

[twin bough]

:(

[real basalt]

no

[coarse leaf]

Was ss developed in unity?

[iron bronze]

im worried about refunds though
no way they'd charge for that?

[real basalt]

3 good games

[violet dune]

so would steam end up getting charged or am i stupid

[magic narwhal]

Yes

[tawdry valley]

I’m so sorry to hear it took her that long.

[dusk quail]

Sorry guys, autocorrect

[quartz yew]

Yes

[hollow terrace]

btw

[cold lark]

Just use thousands of computers

[coarse leaf]

Damn

[echo dock]

Yo

[slender musk]

I was hoping it would mean Microsoft would smack Unity for costing them money

Indie games can be pretty profitable

[tawdry valley]

Wait are you serious or not

[marsh ibex]

half serious

[coarse leaf]

That really sucks

[wheat sail]

Hello USA

[quartz cave]

Lmao

[tawdry valley]

Half sorry

[slender musk]

Steam would not be charge, afaik

[quartz yew]

They'll probably sue. And then Unity would be forced to remove the policy or continue to loose money.

[marsh ibex]

Lol

[dusk quail]

Just use Godot

[quartz cave]

Fuck unity imo, lets separate

[wheat sail]

🚶‍♂️

[noble patrol]

Leg

[wheat sail]

We're done

[quartz yew]

That's alot of damage

[wheat sail]

Wtf leg

[slender musk]

If I were actually a game dev I might lol

[coarse leaf]

They said shells plural, why do you have so many shells, who did you take these shells from?!?

[quartz yew]

With what?

[rapid topaz]

everything that starts with uni sucks smh my head

[tawdry valley]

Aww. Cmon man she’s just being sweet

[marsh ibex]

snails

[dusk quail]

I really wanna make a game, but I procrastinate too much

[quartz cave]

Even unicorns

[wheat sail]

Nintendo direct on the 14th, but probably no switch news

[marsh ibex]

perhaps

[violet dune]

same

[slender musk]

Mood and a half lol

[rapid topaz]

the exception

[marsh ibex]

I think that

if they revealed switch 2 tomorrow

[robust reef]

lets go tf2

[marsh ibex]

I’d blow up the white house

[wheat sail]

Nintendo still trying to bait as many people as possible to get a switch up till the last moment so probably not

[astral dagger]

The era of unity ends.
Now things shall truly be unreal with how much anarchy there is.

[wheat sail]

Switch was revealed in october right after a September direct before

[violet dune]

[shell yacht]

it wouldnt be a normal 40m direct unless its all about switch2

[twin bough]

Ha switch up get it

[vale temple]

howdy

[merry bridge]

whats the switch 2

[twin bough]

Yeehaw

[dusk quail]

I feel like every single company here is slowly turning to EA

[wheat sail]

whatever the next nintendo console is

[marsh ibex]

“By the way, one last thing”

[twin bough]

The sequel

[marsh ibex]

slowly?????

[merry bridge]

oh

[astral dagger]

The game system for team fortress 3.

[quartz cave]

Im gonna tell your mother youre supporting terrorism online

[shell yacht]

rumored super powerfull switch

[twin bough]

Thats kinda the point of a company

[robust reef]

it will never come out bro

[wheat sail]

Bonjour

[tawdry valley]

It’s like a wii mote and switch combined. You hold two screens in two hands, and shake them to play the game

[violet dune]

slowly?

[robust reef]

I accepted it

[twin bough]

Oh

[astral dagger]

That’s the point.

[twin bough]

Imagine editing the message

[robust reef]

I get it

[coarse leaf]

English only!

[marsh ibex]

most companies are all very greedy and milk out every bit of profit as they can

[quartz yew]

I just bought a damn switch. I can't take it anymore.

[cold lark]

quickly*

[quartz cave]

no (in spanish)

[coarse leaf]

Especially team cherry, good thing unity is fighting against the greedy indie developers!

[astral dagger]

Roblox on their way to sell their communities souls for cash:
Twitter:
Etc etc etc.

[coarse leaf]

All hail unity!!

[merry bridge]

bruh slowly? every passing year we are seeing how shameless corporate greed shows, they arent even trying to hide it anymore

[vale temple]

ßĥűþ

[dusk quail]

Yeah

[twin bough]

HI EMU

[merry bridge]

hello alfie

[quartz cave]

OMMGGG E-MU

[dusk quail]

I'm sorry for underestimating their inner EA 😭

[violet dune]

Hello scoob

[coarse leaf]

Bhup?

[wheat sail]

Remember, they had a direct for 3ds games in septber 1, then suddenly revealed the Nintendo switch the month after

[twin bough]

Zoinks

[dusk quail]

I just miss when Fall Guys didn't have V bucks

[wanton eagle]

I just hope they announce some new big titles like dk or new mario game smth

[coarse leaf]

They already did Mario

[vale temple]

it's shut but with funky letters

[astral dagger]

Unity ends. CHAOS REIGNS.

[wheat sail]

So they might juice the switch sales more before revealing

[coarse leaf]

Neat

[quartz yew]

And it's leaking into some foreign development companies. Especially gacha games. They go from being understandably greedy to "gives us your inheritance or the game becomes unplayable"

[robust reef]

same, the crowns were good

[rapid topaz]

they will announce the 4DS 🙏

[coarse leaf]

I think that’s actually pronounced skhuth but I’m not entirely sure.

[wheat sail]

Because consumers show time after time that they will keep buying

[echo dock]

Overwatch

[dusk quail]

It gives us a good reason to win, now we can just buy it

[robust reef]

yeah

[wheat sail]

Maybe some won't buy, but enough always buy to make it worth it

[vale temple]

sounds like a star wars name

[marsh ibex]

LMAO?

[steady flare]

reminder that the CEO of Unity is the same guy that genuinely thinks that charging cents for ammo in a FPS game is good

[merry bridge]

[marsh ibex]

“Especially gacha games” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[twin bough]

EWWWWWW

[quartz yew]

And then they don't give a shit to the english viewers and only care when they see a drop in activity before revealing new stuff to bury the drama.

[coarse leaf]

why dost thou doubt thine own amusement

[steady flare]

the reviews are better than the game lmao

[wheat sail]

And they eat that shit up

[coarse leaf]

Let’s all invest in sega

[robust reef]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-game-gaming-fire-reactions-gif-25416214

[dusk quail]

Wow, thats the first game ive ever seen to be overwhelmingly negative

[vale temple]

any artists in chat

[visual sigil]

critically acclaimed?

[quartz yew]

Theu eat that shit up!

[dusk quail]

Yes, but a bad one

[vivid belfry]

Yeah why

[quartz yew]

But am I wrong?

[twin bough]

I drew a stickman once does that count

[vale temple]

i need good background ideas (preferably dark)

[vivid belfry]

I think this is more of a topic for #art-discussion

[coarse leaf]

You know #art-discussion exists, right?

[quartz cave]

What did you do to joky

[vale temple]

i dont care

[marsh ibex]

in what world are any gachas “understandably greedy”

[quartz cave]

He died of laughter

[echo dock]

I draw on google slides does that count

[coarse leaf]

Well we do!

[dusk quail]

Ngl, that looks like hornet, lurien, and seer in the same body

[coarse leaf]

The orange names will skin you

[quartz cave]

R.I.P. JOKY

[marsh ibex]

better for fart discussion but ub

Sea

[merry bridge]

this art discussion is better then seeing dumb arguementive points about ss being delayed over unity tbh

[quartz cave]

Whats going on

[quartz yew]

I mean it as a "yeah they asked for money cause they're greedy" and then it goes "Ayo these people are desperate for money"

[dusk quail]

What's a gacha

[quartz cave]

Is that sof or snother blocked user

[coarse leaf]

Gacha pon

[vale temple]

but the real reason is that I don't want to overshadow the other arts there

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/gachapon-gashapon-gochagocha-aesthetic-anime-gif-20401660

Just because we allow off-topic in this channel doesn’t mean it’s suddenly every channel put together. If you want to talk about something that has a dedicated channel, go to the dedicated channel.

[quartz yew]

A deep pit you must never go.

[dusk quail]

Bruh just go there

[marsh ibex]

barely any gacha games actually require spending money unless you’re playing a shitty one or you’re fiending competitive

[merry bridge]

art discussions happened before, you gonna moderate everytime art is mentioned now?

[echo dock]

[rapid topaz]

true Joker

[coarse leaf]

Limbus company is generous , too bad the developers did a goofy lil..

[robust reef]

gacha life is bad imo

[dusk quail]

May I know tho

[quartz yew]

But..nvm.

[rapid topaz]

Btw WTF is Gacha Life I see it on youtube sometimes and I'm confused

[coarse leaf]

Gacha games are not gacha life

[magic narwhal]

I mean….no

[vale temple]

fine, I'll do it next time
but if you could at least give feedback this time?

[vivid belfry]

Gacha games give you randomly selected heroes / elements

[dusk quail]

No, go there

[magic narwhal]

The amount of currency you get is laughably low

[vivid belfry]

Like a gachapon machine

[robust reef]

both bad

[quartz yew]

No.

[coarse leaf]

Hallownest’s Crown.

[quartz cave]

Guys we should make silksong in the best game ever gacha life/j

[twin bough]

Real

[coarse leaf]

I like some gacha games

[dusk quail]

Ok :3

[robust reef]

ok

[vivid belfry]

And because they're of varying quality, high level play tends to favor whales

[coarse leaf]

Sometimes gambling is fun

[echo dock]

Please dont

[coarse leaf]

I’m a Pokémon card buyer aswell.

[vale temple]

good idea
common cat w

[quartz cave]

Done.

[magic narwhal]

Bruh just respect you’ve been told to take it elsewhere lol

[quartz yew]

The recent cookie run kingdom gane literally has a whole event dedicated to buying currency so that you can get fan favorite characters that aren't even playable. Shit's wild.

[coarse leaf]

That’s not the person who posted the art..

[rapid topaz]

I had a whale friend that told me once "I only spent around 300$ this month in the game"

[cunning geode]

oh no

[merry bridge]

no

[rapid topaz]

This sentence is now stuck in my brain

[merry bridge]

If I have a question im gonna ask it

[magic narwhal]

Still rude, like respect the ruling lol

[coarse leaf]

Just buy rain world and it’s dlc and you get 150 + hours for 35$

[quartz cave]

I dont even spend that much in among us merch!!

[echo dock]

[wheat sail]

300 is a bit weak for a whale

[rapid topaz]

I mean he is not rich

[dusk quail]

Bruh, they probably have every ea game in existence inside their computer for them to be allowed to say "Only $300"

[rapid topaz]

So that's a lot

[quartz cave]

Daily...

[hallow yacht]

anyone got any good post golem magic weapons for calamity

[frigid karma]

Gatcha is just gambling for people who are too lazy to go to casinos

[quartz yew]

Honestly they sound like a dolphin type of player. I once heard a drama of a whale that scammed a whole art zine to spend 2000 dollars on genshin.

[dusk quail]

#off-topic

[magic narwhal]

Good for you, just don’t aggro for immature reasons 👍

[merry bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030875707565412382/1126319983685799996/20578292-E30F-4676-BD67-C2DB2D369E3D.gif

[wheat sail]

It's gambling but they get anime girls as rewards

[obtuse glacier]

Aka here

[cold lark]

gambling for redditors

[merry bridge]

my opinion about that comment

[quartz cave]

Literally this channel

[frigid karma]

Gambling for cowards

[hallow yacht]

nah this IS #off-topic

[dusk quail]

No

[magic narwhal]

Again, good for you

[quartz yew]

Gambling for weebs.

[hallow yacht]

ss isnt out so this is by result off topic

[quartz cave]

Yes ""

[vale temple]

you're just mini modding at this point

[merry bridge]

youre the one taking issue with my question lol

[wooden quest]

Hey chat im packing for university i dont know how much storage space i have where should i put my 8000 zote plushes

[quartz cave]

Use them as a bed

[real basalt]

put 4000 in hell to punish zote for his sins

[dusk quail]

🤓

[wooden quest]

Great idea

[quartz yew]

They're doing their best.

[frigid karma]

In your suitcase

[weary nymph]

You need to buy another room to put them in

[hallow yacht]

the garbage compresser

[twin bough]

The floor

[echo dock]

Get like a tent and put them on top of ur car

[vale temple]

theo i got to the beast

[wooden quest]

All very helpful advice

[dusk quail]

How do you punish God

[wheat sail]

Maybe dragon wants to be mod someday

[hallow yacht]

now your just being a dick

[frigid karma]

Hoid can you make like a zote pillow fort

[dusk quail]

:(

[obtuse glacier]

The parrot emojis are getting to him

[vale temple]

is that not theo

[weary nymph]

You’re*

[real basalt]

you worship a false god

[obtuse glacier]

Nope

[dusk quail]

Nuh uh

[quartz cave]

Yroue*

[vale temple]

what the fuck

[magic narwhal]

Nah I like having a life off the internet

[fiery burrow]

hello chat any cool people

[dusk quail]

Uo*

[robust reef]

whats ur pfp

[hallow yacht]

yorue

[echo dock]

Did you actually think I was theos alt?????

[twin bough]

OMG HI

[vale temple]

yeah?

[obtuse glacier]

Sarvente

[rapid topaz]

Yeah I'm aware of "real" whales but idk for me if you spend 30% or 40% of your salary there's a big problem, whatever the salary, just a question of scaling. Like ok 300 isn't a lot in comparison but damn if you have 1000 a month it's huge

[echo dock]

LMFAO

[dusk quail]

No

[frigid karma]

Who's theo

[fiery burrow]

alferado

[robust reef]

I suspected that

[echo dock]

Nonoonnoonnoonono it was a joke I’m not Theo

[merry bridge]

by having issues over the little things online that you perceive

[quartz yew]

Parrot parade! 🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜

[dusk quail]

I got my pfp off of Google images

[frigid karma]

🦜

[dusk quail]

Gonna have to check the source later

[magic narwhal]

Spending $100+ on a JPEG you don’t even own is never worth it

[merry bridge]

hi gelato

[quartz cave]

BASED

[echo dock]

Sof I always thought u were kk joking when u called me Theo

[quartz yew]

Yeah I'm not justifying it. That's still a wild amount to spend in a game.

[fiery burrow]

uh nuh uh

[quartz cave]

Also hi megaman hater

[twin bough]

When did you become based?

[dusk quail]

What does whale mean

[echo dock]

True

[quartz cave]

L imo

[twin bough]

Its an animal

[violet dune]

aquatic creature

[rapid topaz]

I'm shocked by what you said earlier though lmao

[fiery burrow]

your mother

[visual sigil]

rip shouldnt have kept red key

[quartz yew]

Mods. Crush his skull✊💀

[magic narwhal]

It means people who spent a bunch of money on those types of games

[quartz cave]

Mods. No

[vale temple]

I thought mochi (pan) was a different pan and asked where was she when she was in chat

[dusk quail]

Yeah but you use the term to describe people

[twin bough]

Do i?

[dusk quail]

My mother's a cactus

[violet dune]

SIMO?

[visual sigil]

i was looking at the wrong chat

[dusk quail]

Nvm

[echo dock]

Lol

[frigid karma]

I think if you're ultra mega rich go ahead and spend on gatcha, minifigures, collectibles, whatever you want but unless you can have that cash to just bleed out freely save it for food or rent or something

[twin bough]

Where?

[fiery burrow]

yes?

[twin bough]

Is simo in the room with us right now

[wheat sail]

Or not

[violet dune]

he could be any one of us

[quartz yew]

Yeah that drama happened and it was chaotic. The worst thing is that when everybody confronted them they just replied with "❤️" and then never logged on.

[twin bough]

You dont have to be rich for minifigures you just cant get the good ones

[magic narwhal]

2 of those 3 are actually tangible objects though, a gacha game can have its service ended on a whim and all that money’s just gone

[frigid karma]

Yeah best not to waste money but hey, who am i to tell you what you can and cannot do?

[violet dune]

what happened

[rapid topaz]

Modern terminology for people that tends to spend big amount of money or ressources into a game etc.. excessively. idk if that exist outside of games media

[tawdry valley]

Deserved for whaling on a gacha

[dusk quail]

Oh, thanks for being useful

[frigid karma]

I literally cannot stop them so like why bother

[tawdry valley]

I am sorry your money is gone

[merry bridge]

where

[coarse leaf]

Become a whale on plushies instead , you can create a throne to sleep on

[dusk quail]

Ive already done that

[magic narwhal]

Not talking about myself, explaining why I could never recommend spending on gacha

[tawdry valley]

Also: I am a sorry, but your money was gone

[dusk quail]

Can I be a whale on gelato

[magic narwhal]

It’s like buying NFTs

[tawdry valley]

Not what I meant

[rapid topaz]

no problem

[fiery burrow]

My entire closet is full of plushies and I have and entire 2 foot long bin of them

[frigid karma]

If it makes you happy then i don't care it's not my money so spend away. Just understand that that stuff is actually useless and will never benefit you in any real way

[quartz yew]

This happened a while ago but there was a persona gay art zine of some ship. Apparently the person in charge of the finances used all the money they saved up for the zine and spend it on genshin. It was around 2000-7000 dollars.

[tawdry valley]

wtf

[dusk quail]

I love gelato though :(

[tawdry valley]

wtf

[rapid topaz]

Wow

[tawdry valley]

Wrong reply

[fiery burrow]

[violet dune]

[dusk quail]

Whyyyyyuh

[quartz yew]

Honestly it was an understandable reaction.

[tawdry valley]

lolol

[wheat sail]

I wanna be rich to spend a stupid amount of money on gacha and see people's reactions

[tawdry valley]

Only works post 2003.

[dusk quail]

I wanna be rich to buy 42 acres of land and then make a real life Hallownest

[quartz yew]

And as I said before, when everybody confronted the person about it, they just replied with a heart emoji and never logged back on the interner ever again. I think they deactivated their twitter account too.

[dusk quail]

Maybe I can put an ant colony in there

[frigid karma]

I wanna be rich.

[frigid karma]

That's it i just want money

[rapid topaz]

Capitain Radious

[wheat sail]

I can sell you some void beings for 200$ each

[dusk quail]

No, I'll get myself a wife for that

That*

[echo dock]

My favorite cyborg killing machine

[tawdry valley]

He’s alright

[quartz yew]

Idk the part that got me was that it was a ship art zine. It wasn't even a zine for the game itself. How did they get that much money for a ship art zine.

[wheat sail]

aVoid your wife

[frigid karma]

No way it's ddx fanarr

[magic narwhal]

Oh shit!

[dusk quail]

Nuh uh, void my children so I don't have to pay for child support

[wheat sail]

Cult of the wrath of the lamb

[fiery burrow]

what is a zine

[stoic sigil]

Overwatch 2
Diablo Immortal
Redfall

[tawdry valley]

I respect youtooz more than I do funkos

At least they look decent

[rapid topaz]

For a long time I had a memory of grevious having 6 arms

[magic narwhal]

Same

[rapid topaz]

Idk why

[magic narwhal]

Funkos also have trouble standing a lot of the time

[fiery burrow]

I should buy every youtooz, pile them up, and burn them

[heady iron]

Bruh unity drama indirectly getting silksong trending

[fiery burrow]

and every funko

[quartz yew]

It's basically a huge art collab where a bunch of artist create art and basically sell it to those interested. It ranges from posters, keychains and other art merch.

[delicate plinth]

naw wild

[frigid karma]

Funkos look bad too at least youtooz have a bit of personality

[wheat sail]

Silksong will use the unity thing as an excuse to charge 20 extra dollars for silksong

Team cherry*

[fiery burrow]

sounds pretty cool

[frigid karma]

Istg every funko of realistic series loos the same

[quartz yew]

You guys think TC willr respond?

[fiery burrow]

where is the hollow knight zine

[delicate plinth]

lmao

[tawdry valley]

Shit like this happens and people wonder why TC doesn’t need to change marketing strategy

[hasty oar]

Extra $20 for team cherry

[delicate plinth]

[tawdry valley]

Oh right kickstarters already have it

[wheat sail]

If they do that I'm gonna redownload the game 500 times

[fiery burrow]

20 cents is way too lenient tbh it should be 10 dollars

[dusk quail]

I thought it was a joke image, its T rated?

[quartz yew]

Don't give them ideas.

[dusk quail]

I found that picture in hk memes

[stoic sigil]

Holy moly

[fiery burrow]

for extreme blood and gore

[quartz yew]

Probably because of all the bugs you kill. Also some mildly disturbing lore.

[fiery burrow]

mild language too

[dusk quail]

Is it actually T rated?

[frigid karma]

Silksomg is m for mature

[tawdry valley]

https://tenor.com/view/point-and-laugh-schadenfreude-squid-game-hilarious-haha-gif-23450682

[fiery burrow]

we dunno the rating, I wouldn't be shocked if it was though

[rapid topaz]

means Tiso is here

[dusk quail]

I feel like hollow knight should've been T rated too. Like you litteraly have a place where your walking on your siblings skulls

[wheat sail]

Watch when everyone forgets about this unity thing within a month

[tawdry valley]

I give it the weekend

[fiery burrow]

it's not a particularly graphic area

[wheat sail]

Because for one, it only affects those games making more than 200k in a year

[trail zodiac]

WAIT NO NO NO NO

[quartz yew]

Wasn't there suppose to be skull bench too? Sick.

[stoic sigil]

The most influential outcry since the Reddit Protests

[frigid karma]

YES YES YES

[heady iron]

It will be rated Ao for one scene between Hornet and Lace

[fiery burrow]

(it's not in the game just stuck in the files)

[violet dune]

will unity charge devs when people download a pirated copy

[frigid karma]

BUG LESBIANS LETS GOOO

[dusk quail]

Stfu

[quartz yew]

Apparently

[violet dune]

[tawdry valley]

Allegedly, no.
Likely: yeah, they can’t keep pirates out forever

[trail zodiac]

silksong releases on gamepass
unity will force microsoft to pay for the install fee on gamepass
microsoft wont pay that
silksong wont be on gamepass or will switch engine

[quartz yew]

So pirating won't do anything.

[hasty oar]

Same

[frigid karma]

Serious question, how would they even detect that in pirated copies

[trail zodiac]

unity will be adding a tracker

[tawdry valley]

You seem like an individual that knows how money works

[nimble pebble]

Hilarious

[quartz yew]

For legal reasons I am not suppose to encourage this.

[fiery burrow]

For illegal reasons I am supposed to encourage this.

[quartz yew]

Lmao idk?? They literally just said in their reply "trust our algorithms" like??? That's not untrustworthy at all.

[twilit mulch]

No silksong more?

[tawdry valley]

Really? They’re gonna gut Microsoft?

[wheat sail]

Unity did say on their faq that they are able to detect if people are maliciously installing i.e. to keep billing the devs. Don't know how effective they actually are though

[cold lark]

Choose: unity or 🤣👉 roblox dating simulator

[trail zodiac]

yes

how many games on gamepass use unity

[quartz yew]

Wait wouldn't that make the install bombing happen?

[trail zodiac]

microsoft will not let that happen

[quartz yew]

Microsoft is gonna kill them I just know it

[frigid karma]

Oh my fucking god that is the sketchiest thing you can say about that

[tawdry valley]

I’d have assumed that Microsoft would be handing liability to developers, or that devs would be taking cuts from their one time payment

[violet dune]

I don't trust microsoft about anything at this point

[tawdry valley]

They’re trying to get Microsoft to pay for it?

[nimble pebble]

Lol if they keep the pricing Unity isn't going to die immediately, but only because there are projects are already in development for it. As soon as they are done Unity is dead.

[frigid karma]

how will you know the files on my computer are legit and trace it back to the original developers?

"algorithym bro dw about it"

[quartz yew]

They're trying to disguise their malware as a company product and it's making me go insane

[wheat sail]

I mean they are able to detect if people are legit installing or maliciously doing so in theory someone couldn't just install a million times just to charge the devs a ton, I wouldn't know how though

[fiery burrow]

they said it's only the initial install

[nimble pebble]

It's even worse:

[trail zodiac]

multiple devices are seperate charges

[violet dune]

python

[fiery burrow]

eh that's not a big deal unless some maniac is buying a 1000 switches to install bomb

[quartz yew]

Please fucking end this timeline. This can't be real.