sk-discussion

[kindred pewter]

YEAH

I think wax has come here

wait actually he hasn't

[twin bough]

You may be getting confused

[fiery burrow]

Chat if silksong were to feature guns how much guns would you want

[feral carbon]

im american so yes

[fiery burrow]

I'd like 1-4 gun options

[sinful flare]

i'd like all gun options

[quiet knot]

Silksong better have ricoshots

[feral carbon]

why would a game about bugs and getting to the top of what i presume a anthill have guns

[quiet knot]

Because guns are the best

[fiery burrow]

MF this bug world has fully automated mining robots

[feral carbon]

where

[fiery burrow]

Pharloom by the looks of it is already fairly advanced too

[fiery burrow]

Crystal Peaks

[feral carbon]

they already kinda have a gun with throwing their needle

[feral carbon]

theres no mining robots only husks?

[fiery burrow]

that's lame though, I want gun

[fiery burrow]

Bro hasn't gotten crystal heart

[sinful flare]

there are mining robots in risk of rain 1

[kindred pewter]

in silksong I better have the ability to throw a coin and shoot it

[quiet knot]

fr

[fiery burrow]

One time in like 3rd grade I flipped an apple sauce cap and punched it midair I think I am literally john ultrakill

[feral carbon]

um ackshually ive 112% the game on 3 files with 1,189.9 hours in the game 🤓

[quiet knot]

I punched a basketball once and i also felt that

[kindred pewter]

I punched a child once and I also felt that

[fiery burrow]

I wonder if I could actually do a mid air coin punch that would be so sick

[quiet knot]

Real

You can if you have hard enough knuckles

[kindred pewter]

you can with the right power

[fiery burrow]

I should learn how to do it with dog treats that would be so sick

I punch and my dog catches

[quiet knot]

Yeah punch a dog treet into your dogs mouth

[kindred pewter]

just replace your upper arm with a metalic coating and punch very fast

[quiet knot]

That would be a cool dog trick

[quiet knot]

like a metal glove?

[fiery burrow]

He's a very good catcher

you can just chuck a treat into a vague direction and he'll get it

[kindred pewter]

yes

and have the force of a bullet

I mean speed not force but yeah

[twin bough]

When did you become so based!?

[kindred pewter]

since forever

[violet path]

guys pklease dont punch children unless they play genshin

[steady sage]

children are terrifying

[twin bough]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[violet path]

well i guess when youre the same height as them..

[sinful flare]

children are annoying
babies even more

[steady sage]

are you suggesting smth?

[violet path]

yes youre short

[steady sage]

don't size-shame me >:(

you can make fun of the way i talk, tho

[fiery burrow]

you talk funny I think

I've never heard you

[sinful flare]

do you like how my face disintegrates into chalk

[fiery burrow]

no way I got my 400th radkoth kill

[fiery burrow]

I'm no expert but that's weird

[twin bough]

You talk normally tho lmao

[steady sage]

nyaaa :3

[twin bough]

Well maybe not in text

[fiery burrow]

Hollow Yak!?!?!?

[sinful flare]

@trim estuary which mods

[trim estuary]

no mods...

[sinful flare]

wym.. hop on badassemotes

im talking about the mod that adds a few cool silly dances alongside tons of weeb related shit

[trim estuary]

hop on ror 109775244548667016 🗣️

[sinful flare]

ror2

[sinful flare]

‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[trim estuary]

you cant self react

thats not how that works

[fiery burrow]

you made engineer turrent taunt?

what's it do

[twin bough]

Proof?

[sinful flare]

makes your engineer turrets emote with you
alongside the option to make all of your allies emote with you

[trim estuary]

no no i mean its morally questionable not that you cant do it

[fiery burrow]

I disagree

[trim estuary]

its kinda like murder

[flat remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-emoji-react-discord-react-reaction-gif-1221992568260856831

[fiery burrow]

ss-discussion gotta be one of the chillest channels tbh

[twin bough]

Because its always dead?

[kindred pewter]

#hk-meme better

[fiery burrow]

I'd rank the channels I use like this

1. ss-discussion
2. lore
3. artgallery
4. hk-offtopic
5. offtopic

the rest are mid

[flat remnant]

Art-discussion..

[fiery burrow]

I don't visit art discussion that much idk why

I kinda just want the art without the discussion ig

[flat remnant]

I would rank it at 2 or 3

[violet path]

id rank channels like this

1.old hk discussion
2. ss discussion
3. hk discussion

[fiery burrow]

what was old hk-discussion

[flat remnant]

The people who help out with art tips are cool but i some people kind of make it eh

[opaque sigil]

Smh star just likes the fruits of the artists’ effort and not the artists

[fiery burrow]

[flat remnant]

Pengu.,,.. i thought we were friends,,,,,,,,,,

[opaque sigil]

If the shoe fits don’t complain when I shove it on your foot breaking three of your toes

[fiery burrow]

what...

[flat remnant]

that doesn't sound like it fits

[sinful flare]

@cobalt sigil chat is delayed but help me activate artifact of glass

[flat remnant]

anymore at least

[sinful flare]

i think the server just died

[olive bobcat]

Fuck the old #hk-discussion, bring back the old #sk-discussion

[violet path]

old ss disc was chill too but not too different from modern

by old i mean like 2022 i havent been here that long idk

[cobalt sigil]

its fine fo rme

[shell yacht]

riddle era was the only good ssdisc

[violet path]

i used on and off 2022 and mostly 2023 for ss disc

[olive bobcat]

Baby mode

Where my 2019 gang at

[fiery burrow]

anyways I appreciate all the artists and the love they put into their art that's why I've upheld reacting a , or a on every post there

[sinful flare]

w

[violet path]

i used nothing in 2019

[olive bobcat]

Damn itttttt

Kumail Nanjiani isn't voicing Prismo in Fionna and Cake

[sinful flare]

i got kicked

[violet path]

then used lore in 2020-early 21, hk disc in late 21-early 22, then on and off ss disc and hk disc for rest of 22 and ss disc reg in 23

[olive bobcat]

Apparently there were communication issues and they didn't send out the request

[fiery burrow]

what were my first messages

[sinful flare]

@cobalt sigil @trim estuary internet is extremely unstable :zotetroll: yall have fun

[fiery burrow]

cringe thats what

[twin bough]

HE VOICED PRISMO!?!?

[cobalt sigil]

:3

[fiery burrow]

emote spam everywhere

[olive bobcat]

Yeah

He says he really loved the role

[twin bough]

It makes sense now but i had no idea it was him

[cobalt sigil]

i wish i used trans huntress mod rn

[languid linden]

His reps are getting BOOTED

[fiery burrow]

hatsune miku artificer mod my beloved

[olive bobcat]

Kumail's reps are doomed

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-adventure-time-jake-gif-7964035

[languid linden]

SANS

[fiery burrow]

chat do you like big blue cheese or large cerulean cheddar more

[flat remnant]

i thought they were the same person

[languid linden]

Blue cheese is fine

But you really can’t beat a smoked Gouda

[fiery burrow]

eh I'ma need a source for that

[flat remnant]

wha

[kindred pewter]

what happeed to big blue cheese??

[olive bobcat]

Anyways new Prismo tomorrow probably

[flat remnant]

Oh shit

I'm like one or two episodes away from simon backstory episode

[violet path]

one or two what?

[flat remnant]

I said episodes

Again is glob an actual diety they praise

[quiet knot]

big blue cheese is better

[flat remnant]

I know golb is a thing

Wait is glob god and golb the antichrist

Shhhh no one can know

[quiet knot]

O ok sorry

[coarse leaf]

hatsune miku pokemon

[quiet knot]

I wish.

[coarse leaf]

!

[flat remnant]

Hatsune miku has RUINED pokemon

[quiet knot]

[kindred pewter]

BASED

[marsh ibex]

Glob is martian god, golb is personification of entropy or smth

[fiery burrow]

funny red chaos man

[flat remnant]

They both look similar with the red and the polygon motif

Golb is the antichrist to glob headcanon

[marsh ibex]

They aren’t related afawk

[quartz cave]

OMG HI JOKYYY

[charred surge]

What type would Hatsune Miku be

[olive bobcat]

That depends

So far we've seen psychic, grass, and fire afaik

[violet path]

ooo pokemon

[flat remnant]

She's a hologram so I would say whatever type rotom is

[true vine]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-vocaloid-gif-26481947

[tawdry valley]

Electric would be the go-to but the music gives me brain damage so probably psychic

[kindred pewter]

hey her music isn't that bad

you are just bad

[twin bough]

No you

[charred surge]

Idk much about miku tbh but I get fairy type vibes

[flat remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/pipe-bomb-so-cool-pipe-bomb-hatsune-miku-gif-3979886170462943769

[barren jacinth]

Miku, there is a pipe bomb in your mailbox!

[primal horizon]

I am gonna RUIN this

[stray current]

Yup

Got no idea

Is it an update to hk?

[tawdry valley]

Sequel

[stray current]

Like, what, hk2?

[tawdry valley]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxwbZsL14Y

[fiery burrow]

||Did Golb not attack mars and take Magic Mans wife?||

[marsh ibex]

we don’t really know the specifics of that and that doesn’t imply a relationship

[stray current]

Oh so it's hk, but you play as hornet and everything is new?

[marsh ibex]

[slate wagon]

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume glob was inspired by golb to some extent

[tawdry valley]

Yeah

[stray current]

Cool

Ty

[flat remnant]

Finally someone in ss-disc asked a good question

[fleet temple]

Looks mid tbh

[north shore]

Also like, a new movement system and new areas and stuff. It doesn’t take place in hallownest

[fiery burrow]

Yeah, it's also got an altered heal ability, costing a full meter of mana and healing 3 masks and taking less time. It's also featuring a new tool ability, equipable abilities which are finite. You refill them at a bench with bone shards, items dropped by enemies and found around the world.

[fiery burrow]

Yeah she's very acrobatic in this game and it's much more open and less claustrophobic than HK

[north shore]

Currently imagining how this release is gonna look. The entirety of HKT is gonna be scrambling to beat it because of the inevitably #ss-help channel

TASCord is gonna be trying every possible method of getting it to work

Like, the first month or so after release is gonna be everyone trying to beat it, and then crack it wide open

[flat remnant]

Modding cord will be taking the assets from the hour it releases

[north shore]

Don’t get me started on glitch hunters and speedrunners lmao “we can exploit that”

[north shore]

The hour before it releases. You know them.

[north shore]

“WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN”

[flat remnant]

Would TC patch the glitches

Not the game breaking bugs just the little novelty things

[north shore]

And even despite this, it’ll probably take months to actually get a new mod installer and mods

[north shore]

Maybe? They did stuff like that to idrops, wcs, etc

And even then they just kinda…made them harder/less useful

I feel like while they could fix the bad flag detection system and solve a lot of these glitches (bench storage, wcs, etc, etc), they actually enjoy seeing the community have fun with their game in their own way

[north shore]

Also I’m speaking in a manner of while updating it, they could have revamped the flags for the DLCs, though it would be a ton of work

So that’s also probably another reason why it didn’t happen

[hollow terrace]

Ss-help will only let you post and not

Help

[north shore]

For…how long

[hollow terrace]

because simo and benji will HATE others helping

FOREVER

[north shore]

Please don’t.

As annoying as #hk-help not being one is, people get angry over how “confusing” #1057825333841240104 (or https://discord.com/channels/879125729936298015/1047056433767796766 ) supposedly is

I don’t know if you’re in HKT, window, but there have been many a discussion about this

[versed pollen]

YES!!!

[north shore]

I assume all the mods got an invite but maybe it was just cat

[cerulean sable]

what will silksongs girl dinner be?

[hollow terrace]

Too late simo is banning HKT from helping new users

[charred surge]

When Silksong releases they should make a mod that swaps the enemies of hk and ss

[north shore]

You probably are but I am really bad at detecting sarcasm so please tell me if you’re joking or not

[cerulean sable]

get poleaxed

[north shore]

I probably sound incredibly dumb

[cerulean sable]

HK enemies will get destroyed by Hornet's moveset ngl

[primal horizon]

Yes it be sarcasm

[north shore]

Thank you

[sinful flare]

it is sarcasm

[merry bridge]

youre not sarcasm

[north shore]

I know simo probably wouldn’t do that ever but I had to be sure lmao

[primal horizon]

Are you sarcasm

[sinful flare]

nah simo would

[north shore]

Gods I look so stupid rn

[cerulean sable]

honestly which is why i think porting the knight to SS with 0 movement changes isnt feasible

[merry bridge]

no

[pulsar tiger]

came back after weeks and ss discussion is still as mentally insane as it was

[primal horizon]

Then how would you know what sarcasm is like

[serene chasm]

It isnt, but doesnt mean it wouldnt be fun to try

[cerulean sable]

thats true

[charred surge]

Ok, fine, replace all ss enemies with crystal crawlers that duplicate themselves every minute

[primal horizon]

Been like this since quarantine, never changing.

[merry bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030875707565412382/1126319983685799996/20578292-E30F-4676-BD67-C2DB2D369E3D.gif

[cerulean sable]

but like youre gonna have to recode almost everything probably

or make your own groundup to replicate the knights moveset

[serene chasm]

That would take a long time. Like 5+ years or something

[hollow terrace]

Everything I said was a lie

[primal horizon]

I should’ve joined on April 1st

[pulsar tiger]

This year, I believe

[cerulean sable]

cuz the main issue is if you rise with me forever, across the silent sand

the stars will end up being your eyes, and the wind is going to be your hair

[twin bough]

I am

[hollow terrace]

We will never know what’s the lemons plans are until the hour of release

For they hold the TRUE secrets

[primal horizon]

So this is a lie? 🤨
and is this also a lie #sk-discussion message 🤨

[flat remnant]

Cars 2 reference

real ones know

[lone crown]

If they’re lying about lying that only proves they’re lying

[marsh ibex]

hey guys

[primal horizon]

You’re right

[marsh ibex]

https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1699434568011387253?s=20

Pop Base (@PopBase)

AI-generated Drake and The Weeknd song ‘Heart On My Sleeve’ has been submitted for Grammy consideration.

Recording Academy CEO says “it’s absolutely eligible because it was written by a human.”

Likes

18960

Retweets

818

Twitter · Sep 6, 2023, 2:49 PM

[north shore]

Okay everyone estimate how long you all think it’ll take for TASers to discover wcs or some other form of momentum conservation for silksong (if silksong actually works with our more clean methods of TASing bc other methods are a bit painful)

[olive bobcat]

@vale temple I bought volumes 5 and 6 of XY

[marsh ibex]

no

[lone crown]

You’re trolling.

Say the “fake”

[primal horizon]

Theres no hecking way

[marsh ibex]

Well

[lone crown]

AI is such a massive double edged sword man

[marsh ibex]

It was submitted

[flat remnant]

Remember like 6 years ago everyone was saying AI was going to replace manual labor tasks rather than creative jobs

[hollow terrace]

Beaming you an laser that makes you explodes

[serene chasm]

the grammys are lame anyways

[primal horizon]

Yeah cause we get stuff like president AIs but then we get stuff like president AIs

[marsh ibex]

there’s no apostrophe Curly

[flat remnant]

It belongs to grammy

[serene chasm]

there

fuck you

[marsh ibex]

damn

[primal horizon]

AI is copying

[flat remnant]

Grammy has lost ownership

[marsh ibex]

if it gets past

[fleet temple]

G'r'a'm'm'y's

[marsh ibex]

if it becomes an actual nominee

art is ched

[lone crown]

Even still, why should that be allowed
I still haven’t gotten over that AI art winning a competition filled with art actually made by people

[primal horizon]

NOO that’s not real, is it?

[lone crown]

My opinion is, AI should replace the mundane jobs and not the creative ones

[flat remnant]

It's a popular opinion

Just so happens the important people running the show don't agree

[flat remnant]

Pics that go hard

[hollow terrace]

One small issue

[primal horizon]

Oh no

don’t speak I don’t like that there’s a “small” issue :(

[hollow terrace]

Some people might depend on those mundane jobs

[serene chasm]

AI doing creative stuff is popular cause it makes talentless dudebros feel special

[lone crown]

Some people have different skillsets?

And prefer other jobs?

[primal horizon]

oh nvm continue to speak

[lone crown]

That is also true

[serene chasm]

I have a very special set of skills

[marsh ibex]

what skills

[violet path]

:)

[flat remnant]

Curly-ing of course

[serene chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/taken-set-of-skills-particular-gif-24468765

[marsh ibex]

what is your job even

[primal horizon]

I program stuff, and I’ll never get replaced because eventually ai will degrade on itself from programming

[serene chasm]

Job?

[lone crown]

Only job curly’s familiar with is discord moderation

Right

[violet path]

jeez

uncalled for

[flat remnant]

Mfw they make AI to program the other AI

[marsh ibex]

Curly aren’t you like 30 something

What do you do for a living

[violet path]

live

[serene chasm]

I work for my cities parks dept, specifically I do repairs and installs of anything that doesnt grow. Benches, fences, playgrounds. Thats sort of stuff

[primal horizon]

i wonder what I can do for a living

[lone crown]

I didn’t mean it like that but yeah that’s on me for the negative tone

[marsh ibex]

Benches grow wtf

They’re made of trees

[twin bough]

What? Never seen a bench seed before?

[serene chasm]

I dont grow them. Just put them in the ground

[primal horizon]

But sometimes they’re metal

[marsh ibex]

sad

[flat remnant]

What do you think about vandals

[marsh ibex]

trees are made of metal

[lone crown]

I mean you could sit on things in nature, pseudo benches

[serene chasm]

hate them, but keep me employed

[primal horizon]

Wait actually? Wow didn’t know that lmao

[marsh ibex]

duh

[primal horizon]

You are the real menderbug wowzers

[marsh ibex]

Menderbug likes the vandal smh

they sure are a riotous bunch

[serene chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-up-funny-meme-guy-gif-22610169

[flat remnant]

hollow knight fans seeing real bugs (hk ref)

[primal horizon]

Wait isn’t metal like
one element

[frail thicket]

100% real

[twin bough]

Yeah wire is another element

[fiery burrow]

hollow knight fans seeing the sun grow wings and try to kill them (hk ref)

[lone crown]

Me seeing a cockroach and it doesn’t use a super predictable jump attack and instead tries to run or fly towards me

[primal horizon]

ren is right

[languid linden]

TRUE

Who the fuck is Ren

[primal horizon]

Welp I’m off to sleep goodnight

[languid linden]

I only know HoHoker

[fiery burrow]

how did the riotous bunch and menderbash meme start

[lone crown]

Some new weirdo

[twin bough]

Roroker

[marsh ibex]

[fiery burrow]

sounds like an anime girl or something

[marsh ibex]

Ren is androgynous smh

[heady iron]

sorry joker you're an anime girl now

my condolences

[digital junco]

fate matched with purgatory

[cobalt sigil]

can someone send the meme where its like the trans anime girl

and at the brginning its like a notebook

[flat remnant]

Ren is the canon name of joker persona 5 how do none of you know this

[sinful flare]

i only know the gif where its that anime girl on the computer

[serene chasm]

I dont play bad games

[digital junco]

do you mean the pipeline one

[cobalt sigil]

o don’t think so

the one where she’s like sitting on a bench are like transitions idk

[cobalt sigil]

and there’s a song in the background

nah not that one

[fiery burrow]

whoops wrong one

[cobalt sigil]

becoming based pipeline

[olive bobcat]

My parents watched the first episode of live action One Piece

[cobalt sigil]

yea that one

[heady iron]

nice quality discord

[cobalt sigil]

ty

[surreal remnant]

small upgrade to the setup

[flat remnant]

I searched for this and i want you to know you sent me down a very sad and relatable meme pipeline

[violet path]

game name iroh?

[marsh ibex]

This fucking song

[heady iron]

I bet it is quite satisfactory

[violet path]

thats really satisfactory?\

[trim estuary]

what about it

[violet path]

looks different from when i played it

[heady iron]

idk

[trim estuary]

uh oh

[surreal remnant]

Hydroneer

[marsh ibex]

What was even the original

[hollow terrace]

A second looking at this I thought it was Minecraft with super shaders and a realistic texture pack

[surreal remnant]

lol

the glowing bucket is back

[silver laurel]

h

[opal dew]

Say the line larryjak

[placid ether]

Silksong update

Dudu

[violet dune]

hello good larry

[silver laurel]

Erm...what the deuce?

[opal dew]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-rogan-shocked-what-surprised-gif-16534811

[olive bobcat]

Jingots

[flat remnant]

Let's game it out

[surreal remnant]

bucket

[charred surge]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-soldier-my-dear-god-dear-god-gif-16659739

[full rune]

There's more

[surreal remnant]

No.

[kindred pewter]

if stanely parable taught me anything, is that the buckets are not meant to be played with

[surreal remnant]

i meant technically it's a pan but whatever

it's only gonna get brighter

[silver oak]

I love the comment sections under songs that got popular through a game that children play

[sinful flare]

eugh

[silver oak]

Just saw someone completely unironically ask for the song name under the official upload of the song

[marsh ibex]

fronk

[heady iron]

jojo moment'

[opal dew]

Me asf

Apart from don't pronounce it like that

[languid linden]

Ging

There are termites in your bed

[opal dew]

I know

They pay rent

[languid linden]

Wtf mine don’t

[barren jacinth]

They live rent-free

[kindred pewter]

for me it's jojo

[opal dew]

https://youtu.be/iBIseRtPdLQ?si=bmqxe-D_vfERYR1g

[grand ferry]

do you want bacon grease

[sinful flare]

do i want what now

[grand ferry]

bacon grease

[sinful flare]

also i was kinda desperate so i built a scanner room base in mushroom forest only to find out that i cant find ||the other third of the cyclops blueprint||

[grand ferry]

can use for other things ig

[sinful flare]

buuuut i was able to find a ||vehicle upgrade station blueprint||

[grand ferry]

wait for aurora adventure before making ur seamoth upgrades

[grand ferry]

trust you dont want to accidentally make dupe items

[sinful flare]

i already bought one storage upgrade and depth module

i mean crafted

[grand ferry]

rip wasted depth module

[sinful flare]

it wasnt much anyways

[sinful flare]

is there uhh anything i should watch out for

i'll bring quite a lot of cured food and disinfected water for sure tho

fuck it i'll go straight to aurora probably

[grand ferry]

dont get lost lmao

and make sure to have ur knife in ur hotbar at all times

[sinful flare]

should i get the thermablade or smth

[grand ferry]

dont overdo it, space is important

[sinful flare]

the 1000 degree knife you would see years ago

[grand ferry]

no need to hurry

i dont know if it does more dmg, but it cooks food

so its realy just utility

[sinful flare]

well thats convenient

[grand ferry]

have you tried eating metal scraps

[charred surge]

1,000 degree knife cutting through a rock, except the rock is actually a cake

[cerulean sable]

question

with regards to endings

so usually in games, players perceive that, wtv the ending that has the most effort needed for it is the ending that is closer to a true/golden ending

so we already know TC themselves said, no ending is the true ending as way to not invalidate peoples experiences ie "oh i didnt really finish the game because i didnt finish the true ending"

prior to Godmaster, DNM is considered to be the true ending as it is probably the most "satisfying" which is why its usually labeled by the community and speedrunners as "True Ending"

what if TC goes against this approach in Silksong and instead make all the endings close to each other in terms of the difficutly to get them

both narrative and difficulty wise

[heady iron]

different colored endings

[barren jacinth]

I mean they could go security breachs route and make them starred with how difficult they are

[opaque sigil]

that wouldn't do a great job of mechanically incentivizing further play imo

plus it would mean not having more progression after a first ending

part of the reason thk and dnm work is because you go and do other shit before dnm usually

[flat remnant]

People give me tv shows you hate

[heady iron]

breaking bad

[grand ferry]

so true

[kindred pewter]

good MORNING gmers how you all doing

[pastel whale]

Blargh

[cerulean sable]

yeah thats fair

i guess the best way is to just make the normal ending a lot more satisfying i guess

overall THK ending is kinda like a soft "bittersweet" ending

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, and that kind of works to give the player a sense that another path might’ve been possible

Though frankly even dnm is for some reason presented in that sort of way because tc loves making endings that will trick people into drawing wrong conclusions

[barren jacinth]

Like what?

[opaque sigil]

Like what the prognosis is in THK, that TK is dead in dnm, everything about etv

[barren jacinth]

TK just goes back with the other shades in dnm right?

[opaque sigil]

Something like that

But people see the shell and go “oh it’s dead” (though in dnm’s case that’s not really a conclusion that makes any sense to draw because we observe it surviving losing its shell when it kills Rad)

[barren jacinth]

True

[violet path]

@sinful flare horse

[sinful flare]

what the fuck am i looking at

[violet path]

the design team for bz had a field day ig

[sinful flare]

thats uhhh a guy

you dont see much of those in subnautica

[violet path]

he looks like all 3 mech bosses from terraria merged together

[tawdry valley]

Sub zero ending

[violet path]

wait thats the ending

[sinful flare]

geometry dash subzero

[violet path]

this game short ash tf

[tawdry valley]

Yeah you don’t finish him till you get really close to the end.

iirc you get kyanite and stuff and that’s the final tier for both games

[violet path]

oh ive had like 3 lockers full of kyanite for like 4 days

[tawdry valley]

Shocker

Anyways yeah, it’s the ending

[violet path]

do you not have to do stuff with like finding more abt sam?

[tawdry valley]

Don’t think so, isn’t it your file tho

[broken sequoia]

when is silk song coming out

[opaque sigil]

When it’s done

[violet path]

idk i just got the ||info from the old lady at the greenhouse||

[tawdry valley]

Community estimate is first half of next year. The community estimate has also literally always been a 6 month window 3 months ahead of the current date

[opaque sigil]

||her name is marguerite and she deserves your respect, that woman killed a reaper leviathan with a knife and drifted through the edz by eating it from the inside||

[sinful flare]

my estimate is when the tc feels like releasing it

[tawdry valley]

But given how TC talked about Xbox, it’s pretty likely to come out within a year

[full rune]

all these resources and you gamble on a chat to tell you

[violet path]

ik her name but i didnt know if ddx wouldve remembered it

also i killed a reaper too

[sinful flare]

i didnt

[opaque sigil]

With a knife?

[sinful flare]

i saw one a few times though

[tawdry valley]

Probably a freeze gun

[violet path]

yes

[olive bobcat]

Ok my roommate and his friend are pretty sick

[violet path]

those exist?

[opaque sigil]

Also she’s a ||degasi survivor which is cool||

[violet path]

tell them i say to get well soon

[tawdry valley]

There’s one that shoots a bubble that stops time in it

[olive bobcat]

They watched JJK for 4 hours yesterday, they both watch One Piece, they checked out the shelf and one owns a bunch of the Pokemon manga

[tawdry valley]

Idk if it’s in sub zero

[violet path]

the propulsion cannon?

[opaque sigil]

No

[kindred pewter]

absolute based roomates

[barren scarab]

Well, its hard to go off that anymore.
We can take 2 endings out of the equation because there's no way Hornet leaves Hallownest without the infection being cured/destroyed
So basically, the only endings that would make sense for SS to start with are the Embrace the void endings, And the Dream No more ending

[opaque sigil]

||stasis rifle||

[sinful flare]

stasis rifle

[opaque sigil]

She doesn’t leave voluntarily

[olive bobcat]

They saw the wanted posters and wanted to see the room

[opaque sigil]

No ending is off the table

[crisp drift]

Don't we have a ?psa for this.

Not sure what's the command.

[violet path]

?ss

[kindred pewter]

ong where did you find those wanted posters

[opaque sigil]

?tag sealedsiblings

[white sail]

Silksong Spoilers! || https://youtube.com/clip/UgzlVc4LM4J6_DfuscZ4AaABCQ

No ending stops Hornet from being captured, and the ability to break seals with bugs from Pharloom makes Hornet being locked in the Black Egg not an issue. Dreamers also don’t die when sealed, we simply didn’t have the means to remove them without killing them.||

[violet path]

?uhhh sspsa

[barren scarab]

Sealed siblings

[violet path]

oh jokers thing

[barren scarab]

Really?

[opaque sigil]

Guys I think I might be part wyrm

[violet path]

seal breaking bugs >:)

[surreal remnant]

given that’s what it said, yes

[violet path]

is it that necesarry to spoiler tag silksong in the silksong chat?

[barren scarab]

Why did nobody ever tell me that..

[violet path]

ig dynos just that respectful

[tawdry valley]

Yes. Also you break seals throughout the entire game

[surreal remnant]

we use it in #hk-lore too

[opaque sigil]

No but it is what it is

[barren scarab]

no.

[violet path]

likely because you didnt ask

[crisp drift]

Dyno is a gentleman.

[surreal remnant]

no way to have it tag in lore but not tag here

[barren scarab]

No i'm talking i've never seen a youtube video even mention that

[violet path]

blah blah blah

[barren scarab]

i've been lied to all along

[violet path]

insane asylum

[opaque sigil]

May as well tag in other chats too

[cerulean sable]

literally with how vaguely written the weavers and shit they can easily just retcon that they had a part with the creation of the seals, with Pharloom being their home and the church guys having complete control over Pharloom, its not that hard to write that they would also know how to break the seals

[violet path]

bcs hk youtubers are dumb dumbs

[cerulean sable]

have some creativity

[opaque sigil]

And this isn’t?

[violet path]

this is a prison

[barren scarab]

of course

[violet path]

not an asylum

[opaque sigil]

It wouldn’t even be a retcon, that’s already somewhat implied

[barren scarab]

ion know, if you have to break the seals the same way you had to by killing the dreamers, wouldn't you have to kill hornet? (if you do it the knights way, and hornet is inside the black egg)

[violet path]

maybe they can

[tawdry valley]

My issue with the sequel prequel argument is literally exactly this. TC can add any amount of new information that changes how the story is structured- without breaking canon.

[violet path]

no because its seal breaking bugs

[barren scarab]

thats why i really never thought sealed siblings was a true ending

[cerulean sable]

honestly making the game a prequel would end up with more question and the only biggest arguement for prequels is because of Sealed Siblings

[violet path]

all endings are equally canon

[surreal remnant]

we only really see that they might have been involved with the seal of binding, bit of a stretch to say they helped with the dreamer seal

[tawdry valley]

Evidence points to a sequel. We have a debate because like many things hollow knight, we lack confirmation

[barren scarab]

yes im just saying why i didnt think that sealed siblings was a true ending BEFORE

[violet path]

also itd be cooler of it was a sequel because it would be

[olive bobcat]

Amazon, $15

[cerulean sable]

yeah, i prefer open the endedness of sequels

[opaque sigil]

If they make it a prequel it would be bonkers to establish hornet losing her powers and tools before ss, which they did

[crisp drift]

Sequel would be cool but I won't mind prequel.

[fleet temple]

when did TC say all endings are canon again? was that before or after godmaster?

[violet path]

anyways if ss is completely disconnected from hk is the cliffhanger at the godhome ending ever gonna be addressed

[olive bobcat]

I got like 20 wanted posters or smth

[fleet temple]

probably not

[kindred pewter]

15 DOLLARS WHAT

[opaque sigil]

Prequel would also just not function timewise but that’s another thing

[olive bobcat]

I wanted early One Piece ones but I could only find recent ones

[barren scarab]

after i think

[kindred pewter]

omg if I can convince my mom to buy it it would like be a great birthday present

[surreal remnant]

“ok so you’re gonna bump your head on a rock, forget all about pharloom, but not forget anything else, and drop all your new trinkets on the ground, it was also a magik rok so you lost all your new powers”

[barren scarab]

what did you say?

[violet path]

hornet anime

[opaque sigil]

It’s not really a cliffhanger

[tawdry valley]

Just frame this:

[barren scarab]

literally

[olive bobcat]

lmao yeah I saw that slip-up earlier

[tawdry valley]

Also the live action isn’t bad

[fleet temple]

just because you can explain it into it not being a cliffhanger, it's still framed like a cliffhanger

[barren scarab]

Wow chopper is one thousand berries now?

[olive bobcat]

Yeah the live action is really good

[opaque sigil]

Because tc likes troll endings

[violet path]

also making it a prequel would be pretty pointless, hk isnt very set up as a prequelable game

[surreal remnant]

p5 flower ending is still a little iffy on what happens there

[opaque sigil]

It’s not a cliffhanger because there’s no real question as to what would happen

[barren scarab]

@olive bobcat excluding this

[flat remnant]

What makes a prequellable thing?

[surreal remnant]

regular ending is pretty straight forward

[fleet temple]

that is not your explanation for that
please do not tell me that is your explanation

[quiet knot]

Wazzup silksongers

[opaque sigil]

It isn’t an open question because answers are readily knowable

[flat remnant]

Despicable me didn't need a prequel and it got a decent one

Hi silk

[cerulean sable]

If they make it a sequel:
All TC has to do is make the canon ending vague AND write the church guys with the power to also alter seals due to Weaver bullshit

If they make it a prequel:
Explain and break the fact that Hornet herself has been established as a "eternal" protector of Hallownest since the start
Why she loses out on all her abilities she got in Pharloom without it being a "its a video game" excuse
Theyd have to be more limited with the endings they can go because in the end, Hornet will always come back to Hallownest

Also in my experience, and this is not to blanket everyone, but in most cases ive noticed the reason people want a Prequel is just so they can excuse fighting old HK characters again

[opaque sigil]

idk what to say it just isn’t a cliffhanger

[olive bobcat]

It got 2 cinematic masterpieces

[quiet knot]

Despicable me is peak animation

[kindred pewter]

that looks so good

[shell yacht]

prequel bad

[barren scarab]

Wasn't she born in hallownest or am i tripping?

[surreal remnant]

hornet was, yeah

[opaque sigil]

All tc has to do to make it a functional sequel is have it start the way we see it start in the demo and they’re set

[shell yacht]

yeah nobody can remove their hk copium

[quiet knot]

Dont loot at me like that 🥹

[barren scarab]

then thats all there's no way they can make a prequel

[cerulean sable]

Yes but some people argue she fucking escaped to Pharloom or someshit inbetween

[barren scarab]

unless hornet got kidnapped as a young child

[barren scarab]

does not make sense

[violet path]

i meant more for hornet, hornets story could possibly have a bit of merit but moreso as a retelling of her life not just one adventure where she was captured, having a prequel that has little references to the original usually doesnt pan out nearly as well as having a sequel do that

[quiet knot]

Hornet got baited with a geo scam

[tawdry valley]

We get a third game that’s a sequel to both, and happens post HK where she gets kidnapped a second time

[surreal remnant]

well hallownest is ancient, so she’s probably fairly old

[barren scarab]

searched for the banker so hard

[cerulean sable]

again this is the lamest fucking arguement i found to why hollow knight is a prequel

[barren scarab]

travelled to a new kingdom

[fleet temple]

or because they want every lingering question in hollow knight tied up in a nice little bow with nothing left up to interperetation

[quiet knot]

Real

[flat remnant]

What if it's a sequel that has elements of her backstory integrated into the plot

[olive bobcat]

Hornet rebel arc peak

[barren scarab]

escapes her parents?

[violet path]

shes seen being kidnapped in the first trailer

[flat remnant]

Ala GOTG 3

[tawdry valley]

Stinky plot

[opaque sigil]

The type of person to say a kidnapper is liberating their victim 💀

[olive bobcat]

The first half of the game takes place after HK, then the second half takes place before HK

[flat remnant]

Says you

[barren scarab]

💀

[violet path]

also why would she want to escape her royal mother and culture who give her a room and evidently good training

[quiet knot]

We cant just have a time jump in the middle of the game?

[barren scarab]

you seem to forget that her mother is literally just not there

[opaque sigil]

Her mother who was asleep and her father who was completely uninvolved

[flat remnant]

Time travel

[barren scarab]

i wonder if she ever been with the pale king huh

[flat remnant]

In zoteboat we will introduce the multiverse

[crisp drift]

White Lady cared for Hornet, she says so herself.

[barren scarab]

yea

[violet path]

that makes very little sense

[opaque sigil]

In like the most lukewarm noncommittal way imaginable

[tawdry valley]

I want new stuff. I want pharloom to be the new hallownest. I don’t want pharloom to be a place where people vaguely refer to hallownest and then wink at the player

[barren scarab]

well the pale king is her father
has she ever been.. there?

you know with her father?

[quiet knot]

Been to the white palace?

[barren scarab]

yes

[violet path]

the pale king is only her father as a business transaction as far as we know iirc

[quiet knot]

Well there is evidence that she has been there right?

[tawdry valley]

Hornet can have a place in pharloom without pharloom having a place in hallownest

[quiet knot]

A secret room or something

[crisp drift]

Well it's... Something.

[barren scarab]

The child room?

[opaque sigil]

No

[violet path]

shes there in the tot mod

does that count

[opaque sigil]

Hornet has probably never been to the palace

[cerulean sable]

Im going to be absolutely real, Im honestly so dissapointed that people are getting an entirely new kingdom with its own set of history and people to meet

And everytime someone says whats part theyre mostly excited for on Silksong, its ALWAYS a character or boss in Hollow Knight
its either "i wanna fight the shadelord/the knight/iselda/hornet returning to hallownest"

like seriously, what i love about Silksong is that its going to be an ENTIRELY NEW DIFFERENT PLACE TO DISCOVER, i dont need nostalgia bullshit to make me appreciate the game

[flat remnant]

I just realized you're a star wars fan you know what you mean when you say that

[quiet knot]

nvm that was for pure vessel i think

[cerulean sable]

Hallownest is finished

we dont need to back to it

its pretty much concluded

[barren scarab]

I don't want nostalgia
I want to know if the knight is alive :(

[tawdry valley]

I’m a general grievous fan correct

[surreal remnant]

I never begrudged the Wyrm's dalliance as bargain. In fact, I feel some affection for the creature birthed.
White Lady, Listening after acquiring the kings brand, excerpt

[fleet temple]

"but-but embrace the void"

[quiet knot]

He sacrificed himself

[opaque sigil]

In all endings it is, in two endings it’ll wish it wasn’t

[flat remnant]

We need elderbug prequel

[barren scarab]

no wonder bro got tarnished

[crisp drift]

Anyways Hornet definitely doesn't need to run from her parents and stuff.

[surreal remnant]

thk was never pure, a pure vessel can’t become impure

[barren scarab]

He did have the voidheart, so technically, is he alive just as a shade?

It says he united the void

[quiet knot]

No?

[cerulean sable]

the only callbacks we need is Hornet's past which is explored through the Weavers, i dont need cameos from 50 different characters in Hollow Knight back in Silksong

[kindred pewter]

first movie was funny, second and third I did not enjoy

[tawdry valley]

Idk man, maniacal god emperor and monarch brood mother

[quiet knot]

All the shades dissapear at the end of the ending bro

[tawdry valley]

Not a great vibe

[opaque sigil]

Basically yes

[barren scarab]

i dont want to fight the knight in silksong tho

[tawdry valley]

You won’t

[barren scarab]

how tf do you make a knight fight in silksong work

[violet path]

yes but i do want there to be a bit of continuity or growth for hornet as a character, tk didnt really have character so i think it will be interesting to see our protagonist actually have memories, complex feelings, and desires. I don't want hornet to only exist just as a blank slate for the player to move around, I want them to justify having the protagonist of silksong be hornet

[opaque sigil]

You don’t

[quiet knot]

You dont

[barren scarab]

the knight is so simplistic its gonna be actually hard to make him an npc you fight

[quiet knot]

snail me.

[tawdry valley]

What does this have to do with what I said

[barren scarab]

exactly

[violet path]

i dont even remember what hornets personality was like in hk but whatever it was we should see some continuity or growth in ss hopefully

[barren scarab]

he's made for an actual player to use

[quiet knot]

Whatever you say never makes sense.

[shell yacht]

copium fueld dreams is the only way we get a rematch that isnt grimm

[barren scarab]

i cannot imagine in a million years the knight as a NPC you can fight

[flat remnant]

How could you not enjoy this

[surreal remnant]

that’s why it won’t happen

[quiet knot]

EL MACHO!!!

[barren scarab]

Good

[kindred pewter]

ok wait let me re-state my statement
First movie was funny, second movie was enjoyable, third movie was shit

[violet path]

i was saying in general in regards to what i think they should do in regards to continuity to hk

[fleet temple]

Honestly, chances are that pharloom is way more important than hallownest in the greater hk universe

[violet path]

i doubt it

[crisp drift]

Which one is the third movie?

[quiet knot]

I mean hallownest is like the birthplace of the void right?

[cerulean sable]

were kinda having SS disc here, thanks

[surreal remnant]

Honestly, chances are kingdoms rarely affect one another in a meaningful way, other than singular travelers

[cerulean sable]

just a reminder

[quiet knot]

thats really important

[shell yacht]

actually a silksong discussion, can u not interupt it with fucking dispicable me

[violet path]

its said over and over again in hk that hallownest is a beacon of intelligence and civilization in a barren world, plus silk is right theres the meaningful gods of void and light

[shell yacht]

[flat remnant]

Oh i did not see this

[violet path]

he was the only ok part of 2

oh and grus girlfriend was cool

[crisp drift]

Alrighty then.

[sinful flare]

@grand ferry ya there?

[barren scarab]

despicable me competes with silksong lore

[kindred pewter]

someone pinged me who pinged me

[fleet temple]

Honestly I just assumed void is always there, just really far down, hallownest just happened to discover it

[grand ferry]

hi

[cerulean sable]

Honestly thats my head canon too

[crisp drift]

Anyways we have no indication of where Void comes from or if Hallownest the only place to have Void.

[tawdry valley]

So what would be the Silksong equivalent of minions.

[surreal remnant]

no indication void exists outside hallownest

[cerulean sable]

Void is basically a long spanning empire that pretty much now stays dormant across multiple emergent kigndoms as of today

[barren scarab]

isn't the void literally everywhere and it has existed all the time

[sinful flare]

aside from the propulsion cannon do i need anything

[slate wagon]

void bedrock theory has always been canon

[dapper granite]

grubs

[surreal remnant]

no….

[quiet knot]

The bell guys from silksong

[violet path]

isnt that whats implied? with the ancient void civilization that worshipped it before got there

[flat remnant]

Should silksong have an emotional story that is the main focus or a smaller lore story that's in the background

[cerulean sable]

eh i think the Steel guys are aware of it

[crisp drift]

The fleas.

[grand ferry]

cutter, repair, maybe 1-2 spare batteries

[barren scarab]

Hmmmm

[shell yacht]

void as the core of the world seems like crazy, like TK became the god of that, and youre saying its a near global phenomenon/species

[sinful flare]

thats it?

[shell yacht]

???

[fleet temple]

yeah, it just happened to be the area where pk decided to rest his fat wyrm corpse

[barren scarab]

Those people with pickaxes at the furnace area

[flat remnant]

The minions of course

[cerulean sable]

for me the void stuff is basically like old era Roman Empire at its peak before it crumbled away, which is why youll still see pockets or references to it in outside kingdoms

[tawdry valley]

It’s very rainworld but that would also be kinda weird

[violet path]

half and half. again, i want them to use hornet as an actual character and not a blank slate for the player to control

[grand ferry]

@sinful flare theres other stuff like your scanner torch knife but i assume you already ahve it 24/7

[tawdry valley]

What would be cool is if the ancient civilization is also everywhere underground

[grand ferry]

i replied wrong fuck

[cerulean sable]

YEAH thats how i see it

[barren scarab]

its implied in godhome when you beat every boss on ascendant/radiant difficulty and read the journal entry for that void thingy you get

[tawdry valley]

It’s not an ancient civilization, it’s THE ancient civilization

[shell yacht]

the hell

[violet path]

they dont even need dialogue options they can just make her be in a mute spell or sum and showcase her personality in her interaction with the world

[sinful flare]

kk

[kindred pewter]

honestly, I would love silksong to be an emotional story, this game better have storylike level to hamlet

[grand ferry]

accident sry

[flat remnant]

To shaw or not to shaw

[barren scarab]

im sure they will

[shell yacht]

ttacco and ddxxrevolution wanna dig up draugers

[violet path]

on you at all times?

[hollow terrace]

forerunners from HALO POGGERS

[cerulean sable]

the problem with emotional stories at least is if its forced you can end up just averting people further from the game

[fleet temple]

I just feel like void only being in this one specific area in all of the greater hk world is kinda strange

[barren scarab]

Okay shawspear.

[tawdry valley]

Thats a harder rip from rainworld but also still cooler

[slate wagon]

what a bunch of losers, you were everywhere on this cave planet and you still died

[violet path]

have seaglide, knife, scanner, repair tool, laser cutter, spare batteries,

[flat remnant]

Who's saying they're all dead

[kindred pewter]

that is a question

[barren scarab]

now give us a third game where we explore lands serene

[crisp drift]

I mean Mask Maker did say he thinks the AC overexpanded.

[tawdry valley]

Rainworld literally has a “void sea” that makes up the core of the earth. The ruins of Ancient civilizations sink into it, new ones evolve higher up, and then also sink

[violet path]

character relationships in real time would be an interesting thing to explore in the world of hollow knight

[sinful flare]

during aurora

[tawdry valley]

Please tell me halo also has a void or something

[flat remnant]

Since when does mask maker have any opinions on the air conditioning

[violet path]

ohh then ya pretty much what i said anyways

[crisp drift]

Ancient Civilization.

[surreal remnant]

AC=ancient civilization

[barren scarab]

i think bro meant ancient civil

[heavy magnet]

alternating current

[quartz cave]

Armored core imo

[violet path]

i think its possible catscarf was joking

[sinful flare]

alr then

[shell yacht]

he meant how they failed tocontrol the entire region of hallownest, basically saying they and PK made a similar mistake

[surreal remnant]

Absolute Conundrum

[sinful flare]

Armored Core*

[barren scarab]

jokes? in the hollow knight server?

[violet path]

ban him

[barren scarab]

Unheard of

[flat remnant]

Do you guys think the ancient civilization in silksong had air conditioning of any sort

[fleet temple]

it would need to be funny for that to be the case

[cerulean sable]

for me its going to be like

the void stuff is long long long gone, it is an ancient civ BUT its a massive super colony just like how ant super colonies can span from different provinces to provinces in terms of range

for most part its basically not known anymore but the steel guys would be somewhat experts on it or managed to harness it in their own way, which is why Jinn is there and iirc she could "feel" the Knights essence i think? and why Sharpe looks like shes made out of void

again this is just headcanon theory but i unironically dont think void is isolated just in Hallownest

[crisp drift]

Yes.

[violet path]

i thought it was funny

[barren scarab]

maybe the void provides air conditioning?

[kindred pewter]

if they had macines, 100% they have a whole ass fan

[shell yacht]

precursors flood and the uh, the other precursors

[crisp drift]

I mean in those dark rooms won't you have cold air.

[violet path]

nah i dont think physical components of hallownest need any place in ss outside of like maybe one actually important cameo just for funsies or more emotional development if thats the route they go

[tawdry valley]

@cerulean sable to be clear though - that’s probably not the case. The AC is everywhere in hallownest, but is also said to have perished after over expanding and to have been primarily present in hallownest. So them (and the void) are probably exclusive to hallownest

[cerulean sable]

for all we know the void sea can span into farther regions, and what we saw in Hallownest is just a small pocket of it

[heavy magnet]

I don't know that AC existed beyond hallownest, it might have, but i def think Void is in more places than just Hallownest

[barren scarab]

okay now lets talk about zote

[heavy magnet]

it would be weird if the power opposed to beings of light were just in one spot of the world

[barren scarab]

didn't zote come from an area outside of hallownest, and why is his body void

[slate wagon]

the steel group being void would honestly be the best way to tie in void if they wanted to
but like, part of me wants them to just leave it in hallownest

[barren scarab]

it matches the knights and hornets body

maybe he's just like that

[tawdry valley]

I’d like to see how a society like pharloom or the steel guys handle an abyss not covered in vessel corpses

[heavy magnet]

I could see the steel clan masters being some offshoot of the AC and having an interest in Void

[barren scarab]

i'd like to think air conditioning existed in areas far from what the void could reach

[crisp drift]

Yeahhhh.

[frigid karma]

He just happens to look almost exactly like a vessel

[tawdry valley]

I’ve said it before, but void is one hell of a weapon. Now imagine an arms factory in the abyss

[violet path]

thats true i always thought of the void and radiance as existing only in hallownest but its entirely possible that they had influence everywhere and hallownest was simply their Jerusalem

[barren scarab]

he looks like a depressed vessel

[cerulean sable]

The thing is i dont think void itself is just an isolated HK case, and expanding into other kingdoms or the world of hallownest doesnt specifically mean that its an HK thing thats being forced in SS, just that the force itself IS part of the overall worldbuilding rather than an isolated case

but in the end this is just a head canon and i dont really care or not if its the case, i just dont think its that "fanservicey"

[heavy magnet]

Void is probably cool to the touch, so maybe it's AC freon

[frigid karma]

Nah he's just depressed

[shell yacht]

crazier hearcanon, hallownest is unique in its magic weilding/god population, because of all these fucked up things gathering and dying they come together as void at some point in the past. like the elder crossing in MHW

[barren scarab]

Yeah

[flat remnant]

No joy to feel

[violet path]

oh ya wait what the fuck is zote

[fleet temple]

I thnk by making void this super powerful entity that can form into an extremely powerful higher being while also making it exclusive to hallownest, is basically turning hallownest into this hyper important location that everything is somehow related to, like lordran in dark souls

[tawdry valley]

Gravity falls phenomenon from gravity falls

[crisp drift]

Until it devours you.

[quiet knot]

Zote is a godlike being

[barren scarab]

my point exactly

[frigid karma]

Zote is the pale king

[violet path]

🫢

[quiet knot]

Yeah and hes just observing you

[crisp drift]

Zote is Zote. A guy with family issue and a truckload of luck.

[slate wagon]

void being dead things is basically calling void oil and I'm here for it

[shell yacht]

and stand users

[tawdry valley]

I think the wrym took most of the attention. Additionally, void doesn’t seem to be something talked about that often

[heavy magnet]

that's why you dig down deep anywhere, you get Void

[barren scarab]

im afraid the lack of bitches has driven him insane

[violet path]

i think itd be cool if we see one returning hk character in silksong

[fleet temple]

he isn't void

[barren scarab]

why's he black then

wait no that came out wrong

[violet path]

didnt cornifers wife isalda say she was gonna start exploring again

[crisp drift]

Why would he not be black.

[violet path]

💀

[barren scarab]

why is his body

[slate wagon]

Mr mushroom

[fleet temple]

why is elderbug black, why is hornet black, why is sly black
are they all void too?

[barren scarab]

knight?

[crisp drift]

Elderbug is black.

[tawdry valley]

Half the Hallownest population has black skin. We have a different set of properties that define a vessel

[shell yacht]

like 90% of the game is black and shiny its not all void

[barren scarab]

i dont know are they all partially void?

[crisp drift]

Tiso is black. Cloth is black. Quirrel is black. Like.

[violet path]

ik its the dream world but arent those void particles?

[barren scarab]

maybe void had a lasting impression on Hallownest?

[kindred pewter]

90% of the characters in the game are black, does that mean they are made out of void??

[heavy magnet]

you need to allow for things that are colored black and aren't Void

[frigid karma]

Elderbug is void confirmed

[crisp drift]

Zote is an outsider.

[shell yacht]

not in the slightest

[barren scarab]

yeah and when you finish him he crumbles to void no?

[fleet temple]

it's a stylistic choice

[barren scarab]

yeah i know

[remote ibex]

Even if they were, it's happening in a dream anyway

[hollow terrace]

again, dream world idea from bretta, bretta made up gpz

[shell yacht]

no

[violet path]

havent played in a while but arent those void particles?

[barren scarab]

yeah i just thought it was really similar to the knight

[tawdry valley]

“Everything is void” is a new take, I’ll give you that

[kindred pewter]

you need to understand that this is BRETTA's imagine of the knight and zote combining, so it would make sense if she put the knights void into her perfect description of zote

[sage glade]

is this the knight

[fleet temple]

the vessels are made to resemble bugs like zote, not the other way around

[barren scarab]

now is that good or bad

[sinful flare]

thats sans undertale

[heavy magnet]

void has eternity potential - therefore, everything is void

[barren scarab]

ohhhhhhh

[tawdry valley]

Horrible, but we’re all learning

[kindred pewter]

no thats me in 50 years

[barren scarab]

thanks

[sage glade]

what happens to your skin

[violet path]

WHAT???

ZOTE ISNT REAL HES ALL IN OUR HEADS?

[barren scarab]

my take is everything is partially void not everything is void :(

[kindred pewter]

acid fell on it

[frigid karma]

Zote is a mass hallucination

[barren scarab]

what

NO WAY

[kindred pewter]

Zote was a group hallucination

[tawdry valley]

Nothing is completely void, including void for the moment

[coarse leaf]

mandela effect

[barren scarab]

what did bro just say?

[hollow terrace]

alright lets go back to the better topic at hand, void story elements in silksong instead of chatgpt shit

[frigid karma]

Zote is hallucinations caused by gas

[heavy magnet]

pretty sure that Void at least is Void

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-seethe-mald-mandela-catalogue-gif-26231049

[tawdry valley]

Mostly vessel corpses at this point if you ask me

[kindred pewter]

I don't think silksong would have any prescencse of the void

[crisp drift]

Oooo Window is already in costume.

[kindred pewter]

the void is something to hallownest

[heavy magnet]

that sea is pretty big

[kindred pewter]

not to pharloom

[heavy magnet]

booo

[barren scarab]

ion think so

[heavy magnet]

I want Abyss DLC content, recycled into Silksong

[kindred pewter]

pharloom already has it's own problems that adding void to it would make it more complicated

[fleet temple]

Personally, I think it will be at least referenced, but not anywhere near as important as in hk

[slate wagon]

the replacement for void in SS is gonna be the voice

[crisp drift]

I think I'd prefer Void to be something just for Hallownest.

[barren scarab]

i think its just probably not acknowledged in Pharloom, since the way we found out about void anyway was by the creation of Vessels in Hallownest.

[heavy magnet]

what if the Voice is the Void though

[barren scarab]

Maybe its always there, just nobody knows? (Pharloom)

[slate wagon]

hornet sees a puddle of void

Oh shit that's my siblings

[barren scarab]

Ya

[tawdry valley]

Void with silk magic sounds terrifying, nice

[crisp drift]

Trueeeeeee even the abyss shriek room is talking something about voice?

[kindred pewter]

Anyways I have a better question:
how does the void taste like?

[crisp drift]

Pain.

[slate wagon]

like your mouth being cut up

[fleet temple]

"oh shit that's me"

[heavy magnet]

i think if anything Essence/Dreams isn't going to be in SS, that'll be a HK thing
essence will have its thematic place taken by music/song/etc. something like that

[barren scarab]

Chocolate

Like really intense chocolate

It seems like a liquid so you'd probably have to freeze it before eating

Oh and it also has the side effect of death

[kindred pewter]

I don't want to eat it I want to drink it

[barren scarab]

go ahead

[slate wagon]

essence is the one thing I really hope doesn't return
TC said hornet was a more physical bug, I hope that extends to dreams

[barren scarab]

But the godseeker proved that drinking it is not the wisest idea

[remote ibex]

Slightly thick and ice cold with a bit of sourness

[shell yacht]

we are collectively forgetting that one or more assasin might have void ties, also their master

[frigid karma]

Like licorice but with carbonated fizz

[slate wagon]

well not at all, more so I hope it's not completely tied to the story

[barren scarab]

what assassin

[violet path]

Better question should i go to eep now or watch a movie

[kindred pewter]

these answers are all good hmm

[remote ibex]

Gn toast

[frigid karma]

Sharpe

[kindred pewter]

watch howl's moving castle

[crisp drift]

Well, sure the assasin might know about Voir, but they can stop at there.

[fleet temple]

Steel Assassin Sharpe

[heavy magnet]

I think lorewise essence is still going to exist, the bugs will have dreams, you just won't have a dreamnail or interact with them

[shell yacht]

psure ss was described as less magic heavy so i expect no essense

[barren scarab]

never heard of him

maybe memory is rusty

didnt use my brain in two years

[crisp drift]

Yeee SS is less magical than HK.

[slate wagon]

TC just completely retcons a major world element

[heavy magnet]

maybe you'll explore Hornet's memories or something to get more hallownest backstory

[kindred pewter]

SS needs to have a magical girl transformation for hornet

[fleet temple]

character in silksong, shown in TC blogposts

[barren scarab]

ahh

[frigid karma]

What no nothing about essence changes it's just that we can't use it bc we don't have dream nail

[barren scarab]

is he supposed to stop hornet

or something

[crisp drift]

Who knows.

[slate wagon]

joke

[fleet temple]

seems that way

[hollow terrace]

im hopeful for the steel faction being some relation to void, because theres some relationship between void and steel that TC are hinting at, whether one is a offshoot of another or like sharing the same characteristics but different sources yknow

[heavy magnet]

me too

[slate wagon]

steel is refined void
TK must be terrifying to jinn

[shell yacht]

steel is just the silver equivalent for void beings and prefectly pacifies them allowing them contact and learning

[barren scarab]

so we're supposed to escape the hunter or find the hunter

[crisp drift]

Jinn is a spy for the steel faction to keep an eye on TK.

[heavy magnet]

hunting for some Void sources

[barren scarab]

soo

steel master is void?

[heavy magnet]

maybe

[slate wagon]

they're either void or have some connection to it

[shell yacht]

steel master might even be AC

[barren scarab]

oh they wont need to

because the knight dies in every fucking ending

[heavy magnet]

boidheart

[frigid karma]

I always thpught steel beings were void constructs like the kingsmoulds just better and sentient somehow

[hollow terrace]

also like its the chicken or the egg cause like, we dont know if the sharpe's backer added this character and they evolve this idea to a whole new faction or they had some idea and wanted to reshape sharpe to fit into that faction

[crisp drift]

The knight lives in every ending.

[barren scarab]

I just noticed, my green mark has disappeared now

Good god that took a while.

[crisp drift]

Hollow Knight: Silksong: Boidheart edition.

[quiet knot]

Boid ❤️

[shell yacht]

all of HK is chicken vs egg if u think too hard

[slate wagon]

didn't jinn come before sharpe? it's possible they had the idea, then were like holy shit guys what if

[flat remnant]

No road to cross

No other side to get to