#sk-discussion

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opaque sigil
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You should

formal iris
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Lego company kinda cares for employees, I mean, they give them free exclusive shit for Christmas if that matters.

flat remnant
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Do they give them fair pay

opaque sigil
formal iris
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I mean, Lego is from Denmark, isn’t Denmark like pretty good with that sorta thing?

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Idk

vale temple
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cat look at whati made

opaque sigil
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If they have a strong labor movement there then maybe

flat remnant
vale temple
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wher

formal iris
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Oh phones about to die

flat remnant
opaque sigil
flat remnant
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Alright moving to denmark

opaque sigil
vale temple
flat remnant
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Yeah i saw

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Snom broke out of the wall

heady iron
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I personally hold free pizza parties for my employees in between their 72 hour work weeks

lone crown
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??? maggotprime

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Them CEOs are in their comfort zone

flat remnant
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Evil corporations will be evil corporations tamershrug

sinful flare
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warner bros try to have good work ethic challenge

vale temple
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i dont like how mine turned out

flat remnant
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I really like the textures

opaque sigil
flat remnant
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From a distance the hat looks smooth but zooming in it's grainy

vale temple
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grainy?

lone crown
heady iron
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Billionaires when they can't afford their 14th yacht because their employees want "livable wages"

opaque sigil
flat remnant
vale temple
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yeah i added that
is it bad

lone crown
opaque sigil
flat remnant
prisma meteor
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this is not true

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they are losing SIGNIFICANTLY more money than they are saving

vale temple
flat remnant
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On them bragging or how much money they saved

prisma meteor
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I believe that wb probably lied to their shareholders

flat remnant
prisma meteor
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like they tricked them

flat remnant
prisma meteor
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because they aren't making any money at all so it doesn't matter how much you save

opaque sigil
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Probably didn’t lie, just didn’t tell whole truth

prisma meteor
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well they are probably making a little bit from residuals but not that much

prisma meteor
vale temple
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i wasnt sure about the texture bc it could feel like
lower quality?

opaque sigil
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And even if the striking saves them money for now that won’t stick

prisma meteor
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and Hollywood is famous for fucking with accounting to cook the books and either make it seem like they are making a bunch of losing a bunch for publicity and residuals stuff

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they use subsidiaries and shit to make it seem like they lost a lot of money when they didn't really lose any (or in this case the opposite)

vale temple
prisma meteor
silver laurel
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uhm

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What that deuce?

prisma meteor
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because the workers werent being paid that much in the first place so losing them doesn't really help the studio's that much

silver laurel
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Mario kart

blazing grove
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it’ll hurt them in the long term but right now they’re ofc gonna save money if they’re not paying ppl

prisma meteor
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they have already lost significantly more than they've saved

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not even considering the long term, RIGHT NOW they are fucked

blazing grove
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ig so lol

flat remnant
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I love how everyone is mocking them for their greed

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Like there's hardly any defenders it's a universally bad decision

opaque sigil
prisma meteor
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like what's the thing they said? the demands of the strikers could be paid off by like half of the amount of money the Mario movie made which is a single movie from a single studio in an industry with hundreds of movies and hundreds of studios

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in the grand scheme of things it's not that much money

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and that means paying them before now was even less money

opaque sigil
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No but the way public companies are structured means they have to maximize profits, not just turn one

prisma meteor
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so the savings from not having to pay workers anymore is barely anything

opal dew
silver laurel
opal dew
opaque sigil
prisma meteor
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that's not at all what I'm talking about big guy

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it doesn't apply

opaque sigil
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It does because caving means making slightly less money forever which they will do anything they can to avoid

prisma meteor
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I'm saying that if they can pay off the strikers with a single movie, before the strike they would have been paying a lot less, so the money they save by not paying them is nothing

opaque sigil
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Not short term no

prisma meteor
silver laurel
opaque sigil
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The goals of the parties are always salient

prisma meteor
opaque sigil
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And eventually over time if they concede they’ll also lose money

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If they can wait out the strikers and don’t have to increase expenses they can save more in the long term

prisma meteor
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I'm not talking about whether or not the strike succeeds tammo that literally makes no difference to the point I am making

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I am simply stating the effect the strike has on the studio's DURING it

opaque sigil
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The reason why they are willing to accept that effect is because of their desired outcome

prisma meteor
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who is they

opaque sigil
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Studios

prisma meteor
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they aren't accepting the effect tammo they can't do anything about it

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other than ending the strike

wheat sail
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Hate you

opaque sigil
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They’re accepting the effect by not negotiating

prisma meteor
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they are negotiating

silver laurel
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Tammo 🫵

opaque sigil
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They have not been making substantial concessions

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At least as of the last released summary of negotiations

prisma meteor
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ok well that's my point dude

opaque sigil
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It’s not negotiating if you go to the table and just say “no”

twin bough
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Oh boy another argument about something

hollow terrace
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Tammo sounds like you should advocate us using guillotines

prisma meteor
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the only thing they can do is appease the workers which they won't do until they have no other option, so they aren't accepting the effects of the strike they are forced into it

opaque sigil
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They’re accepting the effects by not caving

opaque sigil
prisma meteor
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sure

heady iron
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a technical recruiter from apple for apple vision pro just looked at my linkedin profile quirrelpog

prisma meteor
opaque sigil
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So you agree

heady iron
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too bad I don't know anything about ar development quirrelpog

prisma meteor
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do you think the strike will succeed tammo?

opaque sigil
opaque sigil
prisma meteor
opaque sigil
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It’s not

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Long term the nickel and dime shit will win out

prisma meteor
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that's the whole point of a strike is to hold profit hostage until you get what you want

opaque sigil
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And if the strikers have to stop before they get what they want then the profit comes back

prisma meteor
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caving to a strike is the best move for a company other than strike busting but that's not going to work here

flat remnant
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What would be the effects in general of the strike not working and the studios using robots

prisma meteor
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they aren't going to do that

opaque sigil
prisma meteor
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it's a lie they are telling to their shareholders to tide them over

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it's not going to happen

heady iron
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silksong

prisma meteor
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hopefully soon they are but probably not now

opaque sigil
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“Because copyright law is limited to ‘original intellectual conceptions of the author,’ the [Copyright] Office will refuse to register a claim if it determines that a human being did not create the work.”

prisma meteor
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a massive studios's fancy lawyers would very easily be able to claim something made by an ai under said company counts as the company making it

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and corporations are people in most copyright systems

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I hope that it wouldn't work like that but it most likely would

opaque sigil
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They would have to argue for a human creator

prisma meteor
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and also you can still make a movie with public domain shit

opaque sigil
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You can, but not being able to have an ip is a bit of a problem for a large company

prisma meteor
opaque sigil
chilly nexus
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they were the author of the prompt tho

opaque sigil
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Not the work

chilly nexus
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Ik but you can claim the prompt and related ones as Ip

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which is a proxy for the work

opaque sigil
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You could claim the prompt, not the image

chilly nexus
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cuz now others can't reproduce it

prisma meteor
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I personally don't think an ai technician should get copyright over whatever bullshit it spits out but I think it's likely that a big movie studio could use their money and their fancy lawyers to convince lawmakers that they should

chilly nexus
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ye never underestimate the power of $$$

opaque sigil
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And the prompt would have to be copyright able too, you can’t just copyright phrases

chilly nexus
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they would pair the phrase with uses and context

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not pull a taylor swift and copyright the year 1989

opaque sigil
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And they still wouldn’t have the actual image copyrighted

prisma meteor
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but like cgi is just simple stuff that the computer fills in properly, if you look at what the VFX artist actually made compared to the final image there's gonna be a huge difference and they could argue the same thing applies to ai shit

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I disagree and I think that's stupid but they could easily argue that

opaque sigil
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Except with vfx the person actually makes something, courts have already distinguished between that sort of thing and full ai generation

prisma meteor
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have they? I don't think so

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what case are you talking about

prisma meteor
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but like copyright law as we know it today was basically invented by Disney. the big studios have so much influence over that kinda shit I don't think it's far fetched to assume they could make it legal to copyright AI works

foggy heath
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Can anyone help me with ideas for an ancient factory dungeon for the first dungeon in my D&D campaign, it's a factory of an incredibly rare (nowadays) material that could be fused with any elements, and hides one of the ancient artifacts sealing away the primordial god of chaos, the boss is going to be a construct made to guard the artifact, and can transform to use other enemies abilities, and it will be sneaking around the dungeon as they explore. I'm trying to make it seem like cliche ancient stuff, but reveal the twist that they were actually incredibly advanced

opaque sigil
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The possibility of flagrant misuse of systems always exists

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More than a possibility really

opaque sigil
velvet sentinel
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procrastinating sleeping rn

prisma meteor
opaque sigil
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Sherlock strategy

prisma meteor
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I don't know what you mean

velvet sentinel
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chewbacka defense

opaque sigil
wary imp
foggy heath
opaque sigil
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Probably a good call, don’t want it to fail a nasty save and get clapped ten minutes in

foggy heath
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I've literally been at a creative block for this dungeon for a year now

wary imp
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Ooooh
I see how this might be working
So is it going to lurk around to the point to where the players notice it but it doesn't notice them

foggy heath
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I think I need to do something different but I can't because to continue the story they need to explore here and get the artifact

foggy heath
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the dungeon was locked away for millions of years until an event which opened all of them up

opaque sigil
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It could jump in to kill low health enemies and steal their abilities before running off

foggy heath
marsh ibex
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Also give them a gun

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Now.

foggy heath
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in the final phase of the boss fight I want it to grow into this fleshy abomination and have the party climb up and kill it

foggy heath
opaque sigil
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Antimatter rifle

marsh ibex
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Give the boss a gun

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Flesh gun

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Fun

foggy heath
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it will if the player shoots it

opaque sigil
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You could give it new attacks when hit with a certain damage type

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But idk if you want to clog the stat block too much

opal dew
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I'm bored

flat remnant
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Hi bored

opal dew
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I should play more divinity

foggy heath
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they roll con or int I forgor

opaque sigil
foggy heath
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I made the statblock a while ago

foggy heath
opaque sigil
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The construct getting aura of protection

foggy heath
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and for spells it can only use them once

foggy heath
opaque sigil
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Oh

iron spear
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Big news coming

foggy heath
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hi graig

opaque sigil
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When isn’t there, world’s going to shit feelspkman

iron spear
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I ate TWO muffins for breakfast today

merry bridge
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Rookie numbers

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Crank those numbers up Graig

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As a wise man once said: all of the zerooooosss

foggy heath
stoic sigil
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If you eat three I may very well die of shock

fleet temple
opaque sigil
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Reddit

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Though without the red name they might not know what to think feelspkman

fleet temple
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Just photoshop it to be red

radiant wraith
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Big news about what? LK-99?

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yeah that's pretty imporant iirc

hollow terrace
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Don’t worry they’ll argue that graig was demoted and fired from being a playtester now that he’s without an red role

opaque sigil
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True

chilly nexus
radiant wraith
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We at the Hollow Knight community love getting to ridiculous conclusions from the tiniest bit of information

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Jack Vine didn't modify the Press Kit in 2 years

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must have been fired

hollow terrace
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That part is true, Simo Cherry told me so

fleet temple
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There's no reason for TC to update hk while making ss, they can't work on 2 games at once obviously, they must have finished it already!!

radiant wraith
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that sounds logical

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I saw William watching the Barbie movie, he must have finished the game already if he can watch a movie

serene chasm
heady iron
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when your custom character appears in a cutscene

shell yacht
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artorias in sekiro???

velvet sentinel
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the hollow knight

wheat sail
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Shakira omh

olive bobcat
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I'm up to 8 hours in 5D Chess

velvet sentinel
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what are you talking about

chilly nexus
velvet sentinel
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when 6d chess where there’s relativity theory bs

burnt topaz
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kirbstar omg

opaque sigil
olive bobcat
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Yes

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For the most part

cerulean sable
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petition to make play boi carti play Silksong

opaque sigil
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who

toxic idol
rapid topaz
chilly nexus
flat remnant
cerulean sable
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what anime is this from

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this looks like mob psycho

heady iron
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looks like berserk

cerulean sable
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YREUI

flat remnant
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You were close on the psychic angle

velvet sentinel
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ive only seen like 3 anime in my life

olive bobcat
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Mob Psycho, Mob Psycho II, Mob Psycho III

chilly nexus
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is better

flat remnant
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TRUE

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Although ngl saiki k got me to laugh out loud more often than nichijou

velvet sentinel
olive bobcat
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That's 2

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You lied to me fleacrying

velvet sentinel
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and then something else

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re zero

olive bobcat
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Re:Zero was one of the first ones I watched when I actually got into anime

flat remnant
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I'm waiting until i finish all of saiki k media to nag other people into watching it

cerulean sable
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ngl i dont actively watch anime at all but i still update myself on new releases because i grew up on old ass anime

cerulean sable
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most of what i remember are the nostalgia days of watching these shit when it shows up on certain channels

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FMAB ending was probably the hype tho

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i remember malding when they had to delay the final episode from airing on the channel we were watching it on

flat remnant
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Hold on is that bridget guilty gear

cerulean sable
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TREU

olive bobcat
magic narwhal
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Ngl Guardians 3 is only good because of the Rocket plot

olive bobcat
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That is the driving plot of the movie

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The main part of the movie

magic narwhal
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Yeah and that's the only reason it's good, the other scenes are either just really weird or don't do that good character building

olive bobcat
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Ngl I didn't mind Adam Warlock, although his introduction was kinda sudden

magic narwhal
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It's just lucky it decided Rocket's backstory and the Evolutionary were the main plot, otherwise it would've flopped probably

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The ending is also extremely meh

olive bobcat
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That ending ruled wdym

magic narwhal
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Not like the final battle

olive bobcat
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What part about the ending was meh

magic narwhal
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Everything after

olive bobcat
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Bro saw that dance scene and was like "it was ok i guess"

magic narwhal
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Quill "dies" for contrived reasons, we get a really lackluster scene of the Guardians retiring, it's pretty mid

olive bobcat
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GotG3 spoilers
This shot rules tho

magic narwhal
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Biggest missed opportunity in this movie is Nebula and Quill

olive bobcat
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I love the reference they go for

magic narwhal
olive bobcat
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Yeah idk where it was

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But rule of cool

magic narwhal
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But it doesn't go anywhere, they don't have a scene to discuss where they stand with each other they just go seperate ways and that's that

olive bobcat
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You know what rules tho

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||"There is no god! That's why I stepped in!"||

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That line was great

twin bough
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I MISSED THE GOTG DISCUSSION

olive bobcat
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Nah it's not over yet

twin bough
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SOMEONE PING ME WHEN THERES A GOTG DISCUSSION

olive bobcat
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Fettucini, do you think the 3 ending was good

twin bough
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Yeah

olive bobcat
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Exactly

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That dance scene 👌

twin bough
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100%

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Finally seeing rocket actually happy

olive bobcat
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Yeah seeing him spinning and cheering was wonderful

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||Really hoping they don't go the (possible) route of HE being alive, because I think it would take away from the ending||

opaque sigil
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idk why they would do that

twin bough
olive bobcat
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||HE was kept in a cage||

olive bobcat
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Damn it

opaque sigil
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oh well

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he's not exactly doing much of anything anymore

olive bobcat
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True

formal iris
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2:30 am

twin bough
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||If they were to continue with the new team i want it to be in animated form, more potential and alot more adventures can happen||

formal iris
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lemmon oronge new emotes?

opaque sigil
twin bough
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||Im just sayin if they were to continue||

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|| i want the solo quill movie to be live action though||

formal iris
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Guardians of the Galaxy?

twin bough
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Yup

formal iris
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Cool

opaque sigil
twin bough
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Probably

formal iris
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I can’t wait for that dude from the Lego movie and Jurassic world to get a movie or series thing.

twin bough
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||the legendary star lord was the title of quills solo run in the comics||

shell yacht
twin bough
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Animated

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They are beginning to delve into animated for the marvel studios side of things

shell yacht
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god i hope not

opaque sigil
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they might do that for shows but I doubt the movies will go hard in that direction

twin bough
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Whats wrong with animation?

opaque sigil
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nothing, but the general audience might not like the shift

shell yacht
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dc does good animation and nothing else
marvels animations are like... 16 yr old shows?

opaque sigil
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marvel movies are a special effects demonstration in large part, transitioning to animation would lose some of that appeal

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(yes I know they're more than that, but that's definitely a part of the mass appeal)

twin bough
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And some scenes in the gotg holiday special were animated

flat remnant
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Repost to scare alferado

twin bough
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Also marvel studios didnt create it

flat remnant
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I watched some of it

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I was really confused when mantis turned out to be evil because as it turns out this is an AU based off of the comics

kindred pewter
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catscarf became niko from oneshot?

wary imp
kindred pewter
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damn thats nice

flat remnant
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Yeah I'm really happy with how it turned out

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But yeah i probably won't make something this good in a bit since school is starting

olive bobcat
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Debating if I should make Memcho in Roblox

flat remnant
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What do you have to lose

olive bobcat
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Robux

kindred pewter
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worth it

olive bobcat
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Did you see the final version of Komi

manic abyss
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hey uh cat

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shouldn't you be sleeping?

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oh wait
it's 7pm where you live right?

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yeah nvm

potent cliff
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silk

violet dune
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sleep is mid

near thicket
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When da silky song come

flat remnant
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Shouldn't you be sleeping? It's 7 am where you're at

karmic salmon
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Liked Zotes return in the game ngl

fiery burrow
cerulean sable
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?psa

white sailBOT
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Reminder: Please avoid any discussion of Hollow Knight and Silksong in #off-topic (and delete your potential spoilers).
Discuss details in any of the other relevant channels which are outlined in #rules-and-info.

cerulean sable
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wait

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this isnt offtopic

olive bobcat
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haha lost

hollow terrace
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Chat despite everything

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I still think the silkified pfps era still prove we can still win this

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With friendship 🥹

shell yacht
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i need a silkified earthchan pfp to do that

flat remnant
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What did we win that era

frozen pike
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I wonder if spiders taste good

flat remnant
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A beautiful victory

kindred pewter
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we, silksongers, united through the poewr of friendship

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Man I remember like it happened yesterday

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fr

flat remnant
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The silksweepinging did really help me morally during a time I was really not doing well

atomic sparrow
flat remnant
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And it helped me meet a friend so it wasn't entirely for naught

kindred pewter
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mine is the one with mr beast (it's almost transparent)

olive bobcat
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Memcho avatar actually going pretty well

sinful flare
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silksweeping made me lose approximately 0.0237 iq

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damn i wonder why no one is around at 5 am

crisp drift
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Take a wild guess.

sinful flare
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beats me

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huh

coarse leaf
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good morning and only morning

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did you drink water today

foggy heath
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I started messaging a bit after the silksweep 😔

sinful flare
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well why are you

olive bobcat
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I started messaging a bit before the silksweep

foggy heath
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Good question why am I

sinful flare
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well i dont have a valid reason to be awake tbh feelspkman

foggy heath
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It’s the middle of the afternoon wdym hornet420

sinful flare
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i decided to catch up to the latest part of markiplier's fnaf sb ruin playthrough
and it was from part 1

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i didnt

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and now i must decide if i must lose potential hours in daytime or if i must lose potential brain power in daytime

sinful flare
twin bough
buoyant pelican
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Welp, it appears that Silksong has been, more or less, delayed now

unkempt agate
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Omg

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Real

twin bough
marsh ibex
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Thank you for informing me now zote

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I think I’ll go commit war crimes

twin bough
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Same tbh

unkempt agate
marsh ibex
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no you’re not part of the club

buoyant pelican
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Originally the game was supposed to be released in the 1st half/quarter of 2023, according to Team Cherry

unkempt agate
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Ok, I'll just commit normal crimes

marsh ibex
buoyant pelican
marsh ibex
twin bough
buoyant pelican
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Again I just found out

marsh ibex
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you’re an unpaid intern

cerulean sable
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Well he just found it

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which is fair i guess

twin bough
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Ill take it

cerulean sable
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but yeah thankfully a lot of people accepted the message well

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well MAJORITY did

cerulean sable
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the rest is basically still angry at TC

marsh ibex
twin bough
buoyant pelican
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Can you blame the development team though?

marsh ibex
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it’s more like the non regulars were mad and left

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as per usual

indigo nymph
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poggers

twin bough
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Grrrr why are we not getting an unfinished game!!!!!?!?!

marsh ibex
cerulean sable
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seriously a game at this level of hype is like probably nerve wracking for a 3 man team

marsh ibex
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personally I’d have rather they idk use their official Twitter account to give the news but you take what you get

buoyant pelican
cerulean sable
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also exposing yourself to a thousand fans whos giving their own opinions and expectations is going to just end you up distracted

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and thats not even interacting with them yet

marsh ibex
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really that’s my main criticism of the news cycle it’s really badly consolidated if you aren’t in the discord server

twin bough
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True i only joined a few days before

cerulean sable
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that being said i do wished comms was a bit better as its been said to death but i fucking laugh at people saying "dude we just want an update every month saying theyre alive, how bad is that?" because it usually just devolves to "ok nice update but can you give us a release window?" anyway

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yeah actually

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but the thing is TC doesnt wanna do a blog so 🥴

marsh ibex
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which is weird

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they have the means and it’s not like people didn’t go to them

lone lichen
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the worst part of the silksong news cycle is the one really asshurt game rant writer

buoyant pelican
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Team Cherry posts AND updates even less on their Facebook page, I believe

lone crown
marsh ibex
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I guess we knew blogs were dead cuz riddles were effectively a blogpost

cerulean sable
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honestly yeah Game Rant is our finaly boss

cerulean sable
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also the stupid overused joke

lone crown
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If you can even call it “logic”

cerulean sable
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"GUYS WHAT IF THEY WANTED TO DELAY SILKSONG JUST SO THEY CAN TOY WITH US"

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more like what if they delayed Silksong because its not up to their standards yet given the insane amount of hype

marsh ibex
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same company that kept the game they could’ve easily slung for 30 a pop and no one would complain

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but nah now they enjoy pain and suffering apparently

twin bough
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The people who act like that dont deserve the game when it releases

cerulean sable
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also i saw someone arguing if they communicated more, then people wont be this rabid because hype and expectations would be a lot more moderate but i dont think whats actually gonna happen eitherway

lone lichen
#

tc are evil satan people (this was revealed to me in a dream)

lone crown
cerulean sable
#

100% they fucking will

twin bough
#

Yup!

buoyant pelican
chilly nexus
marsh ibex
#

never, basically

#

they might retweet a few things

#

gamers don’t know how to protest

cerulean sable
#

wait slightly better quality

marsh ibex
#

Tale as old as time

#

or well, internet people don’t know how to protest

unborn dome
marsh ibex
#

Considering teamcherryganes was taken down but games wasn’t

sinful flare
#

cant you check from hk's steam page or silksong's steam page

marsh ibex
#

Have to assume that it’s them

sinful flare
#

im sure they have a twitter link attached on the sidebar

unborn dome
lone lichen
#

being unhappy with how tc has managed communication is understandable but most people who come in here upset just complain, make no effort to understand or do anything constructive, and disappear until the next time they complain

unborn dome
marsh ibex
#

I dunno why they’d even delegate thst

#

Not like sending tweets is that intensive

cerulean sable
#

its fine to be frustrated and it makes sense to be less invested but given time people will care more about the end product anyway than wtv risks/effort was taken throughout the development

its the unfortunate same way for any other indie games, you can mention how much hard work you worked on the game, how much time you invested to fix bugs, but the moment you dont polish it to the T on release, people will always still go back to the same statement:

"Was this game even playtested? I feel like the devs were just lazy"

lone crown
marsh ibex
#

I feel that’s more of a triple A thing

cerulean sable
#

nah ive seen it to some indie games too

marsh ibex
#

People have way more leeway with indies

cerulean sable
#

AAA games its pretty much a given

marsh ibex
#

Bazinga

serene chasm
#

Hi friends

cerulean sable
#

theres leeway yeah but its definitely still a thing

marsh ibex
foggy heath
buoyant pelican
#

Git good!

serene chasm
#

What do aaa games do more then Indies?

cerulean sable
#

budget creates expectation

lone lichen
#

shitty monetization

cerulean sable
#

and expectation creates higher standards

unborn dome
lone crown
#

Bigger dev team = release sooner

cerulean sable
#

theres definitely a lot of good AAA games and a lot of bad Indie games, its probably just survivorship bias

sinful flare
cerulean sable
#

but AAA being prevalent with microtransactions is just weird

sinful flare
#

so it is official

steady sage
#

YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

olive bobcat
#

man

#

the memcho avatar is going perfectly aside from the hair

#

and the face but i basically just use the default woman face for everything

sinful flare
steady sage
#

my first win

sinful flare
#

which character n difficulty

steady sage
#

railgunner, rainstorm

sinful flare
#

nice

cerulean sable
#

like dude just because its indie doesnt mean they only take 2 years to make lmao

lone crown
#

No way people say that shit

olive bobcat
#

SS is worse than Garten of Banban because there's more Garten of Banbans than SSs

marsh ibex
cerulean sable
#

they have this warped perception that just because its smaller means its faster to make then do shit like demand for more content

lone crown
#

I believe the worst I’ve heard was “it’s a 2D game, it should be done by now”

cerulean sable
#

and now they have an engine and SS being more or less the same, it shouldnt take a lot of time

twin bough
cerulean sable
#

that too

#

gamers loves being entitled like the devs owe them a game

#

because I BOUGHT your first game that means I AM your customer and as a customer i DESERVE satisfaction and info

olive bobcat
#

I think that was here

cerulean sable
#

yeah i vaguely remember it was here

lone crown
cerulean sable
#

gamers have a weird perception and expectation

lone crown
cerulean sable
#

3D in general is "a lot easier" because you model one and just do animations with it (not saying its easy to animate, but the process is a lot more reusable)

#

i guess its less about difficulty and more about how more effort needs to be done

#

3d is like i made one animation and i can reuse it on humanoids

#

2d is like i have to draw everyone their own sprite for most of the part

#

i mean some 2d games dont have to and can still reuse stuff

#

but HK is not one of those 2d games

lone crown
#

Ari’s hand cramps agoneyes

#

Doesn’t it take them around a week on average to create a boss fight

cerulean sable
#

Ari is probably an art machine at this point

#

and hes not drawing too many frames for most parts

#

not undermining his efforts

lone lichen
#

me? i'm personally owed a 2020 silksong release that's the best game ever with weekly updates throughout development because i bought hollow knight several years after it came out

cerulean sable
#

but if he draw all the sprites into higher FPS its gonna take A LOT longer most likely

#

which is why afaik they used this animation fps because its a good inbetween of allowing them to work fast and still looking smooth

#

TRUE

lone crown
inland ravine
#

So anyway I appear

cerulean sable
#

there are times tho in the trailer

#

that i wished Hornet had more animation frames

#

but honestly its probably not an issue when you play it

#

or maybe its because hornet does those acrobatic spin moves that makes it more noticeable

fleet temple
#

I just remembered the old riddle characters and looking at the gifs made me really hyped againM_whyvanish

marsh ibex
#

Silksong will have underwater sections and she’ll move by using the umbrella cloak ability in reverse

#

like a jellyfish

atomic sparrow
#

silk

marsh ibex
#

she has a flashback to monomon and remembers cloak umbrella

fleet temple
kindred pewter
#

oh you mean riddle characters as in silksong nvm im dumb

fleet temple
#

That seth fight looked so damn cool

olive bobcat
#

The fight honestly looks so sick

kindred pewter
#

fighting a boss with a parry and block

cerulean sable
#

honestly speaking of parry

slate wagon
#

seth kinda makes me scared for endgame, ina good way
cause he's so damn fast

atomic sparrow
cerulean sable
#

how do you all feel about making parries add to stagger but for twice the value

#

like stagger is procced by x amount of hits not damage in HK at least

#

certain attacks like great sword swipes being parried would add +2 or x2 to the stagger amount of the boss

fleet temple
lone crown
cerulean sable
#

so like for example

#

let say Sly has 20 hits before staggering

#

parrying his normal attack is +1? then certain attacks like the greatslash would add like +4

iron spear
#

Man fuck TC seriously. Where is the blog update

lone crown
atomic sparrow
#

man fuck TC seriously, whjere's silksong?

unkempt agate
marsh ibex
fleet temple
olive bobcat
#

I've been patient enough maybe TC should deliver

unkempt agate
#

Play blasphemous 2 for now

atomic sparrow
unkempt agate
#

It's out in a few weeks

fleet temple
unkempt agate
lone crown
inland ravine
#

i'm back

lone crown
unkempt agate
#

It's hiding there

olive bobcat
#

hello chat it is me memcho roblox

fleet temple
unkempt agate
#

Now let me suck this pop

inland ravine
unkempt agate
#

Is tasty

slate wagon
olive bobcat
#

I'm still not happy with the hair

atomic sparrow
#

;ife is roblox

unkempt agate
#

Ass Jim is endgame

twin bough
lone crown
olive bobcat
#

Hefty Hugh

kindred pewter
flat remnant
#

Gwnj holyshaw

olive bobcat
unkempt agate
#

I literally started gaming when silksong was first announced, I'm now a pro-gaymer

inland ravine
kindred pewter
inland ravine
#

garmond quirrelpog

olive bobcat
#

I'm a Silksong farmer for hire

kindred pewter
#

swnl grublove

iron spear
lone crown
#

Graig’s Gardens is an endgame area of Silksong

iron spear
#

Hell yeah

inland ravine
#

graig sherma

#

giant carmelitablush

lone crown
#

You deserve at least three areas and five boss fights

lone crown
inland ravine
lone crown
#

Oh

#

Sad

twin bough
twin bough
#

I refuse to elaborate further

olive bobcat
trim estuary
olive bobcat
inland ravine
trim estuary
kindred pewter
inland ravine
twin bough
lone lichen
inland ravine
#

wombat pfp scares me

twin bough
#

Its just a little guy :3

olive bobcat
#

Bro has to spawn in his walls

kindred pewter
trim estuary
#

:true:

kindred pewter
#

:truetrue:

cerulean sable
#

graig you should pause the game

#

and make the villain do a 5 minute long speech

#

about philosphy or some shit

#

but you actually skip it by punching the shit out of them

grand ferry
cerulean sable
#

seriously i heard witness is a good game but at certain points its apparently very pretentious

coarse leaf
#

I need amine recowmendatiowns🥺🥺🥺

cunning geode
#

mushi-shi

#

done

silver oak
#

sakamoto days

inland ravine
#

your pfp scares me

cunning geode
#

i said we're done

silver oak
#

wait no, no anime yet

indigo nymph
silver oak
#

read the manga

cunning geode
#

okay respectable

#

dont even know what sakamoto days is

#

but i respect the "read the source first"

silver oak
#

it goes HARD is what

cunning geode
#

looks cool

#

im not really an anime enjoyer though

#

but looks cool

olive bobcat
#

Imma be honest

#

I couldn't get super into Sakamoto Days

cunning geode
#

oh shit actually watch Dorohedoro

olive bobcat
#

I tried the first two volumes and it didn't stick with me

silver oak
#

epic art but huge spoilers to anyone reading

cunning geode
#

something something 5gum

indigo nymph
#

r they dating?

inland ravine
#

hurry up and die. wow great quote

olive bobcat
#

Oshi no Ko fans where are you I need an opinion

inland ravine
lofty robin
#

Is silksong out yet?

inland ravine
#

nope

olive bobcat
#

No

lofty robin
#

Sad

olive bobcat
#

All the hair options look like shit for Memcho, I need your thoughts on which looks better

flat remnant
#

Send them?

olive bobcat
inland ravine
#

her smile is givng me a nightmare

#

and i love it :)

olive bobcat
#

I also can't use the basic anime faces because the head shape, so every woman has the default woman face

#

I think imma stick with the yellow one

#

Even if it looks kinda shit, it's more accurate

#

I think if it had a good face it would be more redeemable

hazy summit
#

Life is roblox

#

Don't let nothing stop you

flat remnant
serene chasm
#

Is that a character from something?

olive bobcat
#

Oshi no Ko

serene chasm
#

I see

carmine island
fleet temple
#

I don't get why people ask those questions here

#

Like does steam just not exist?

carmine island
#

Lol yeah

lofty robin
carmine island
#

If Silksong was out we’d all be celebrating

hazy summit
#

Silksong hasnt released yet

lofty robin
hazy summit
#

Hope the helps

olive bobcat
carmine island
#

There would be news on Silksong if it was released

shell yacht
fleet temple
hazy summit
#

Eated all the news

kindred pewter
carmine island
#

No clue

lofty robin
hazy summit
#

Bruh

olive bobcat
kindred pewter
#

ah makes sense

hazy summit
#

It's true tho
Your purchase games on Xbox by telepathy

#

Gn

inland ravine
merry bridge
inland ravine
#

lol

coarse leaf
foggy heath
#

I’m thinking about getting Baldur’s gate 3

lusty horizon
#

Oh

#

I bought oneshot merch and got a silksong bonus

#

Wtf

#

Looks really pretty

grand ferry
quiet knot
#

From what store did you buy that from?

lusty horizon
#

Fangamer

#

Because onsehot is in there too

#

The actual thing I bought

quiet knot
#

oh that looks cool

chilly nexus
olive bobcat
chilly nexus
#

also: snow monastery confirmed PraiseGuy

flat remnant
lone crown
#

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

patent heath
lone crown
#

I will have victory

#

I will be right

#

The Snow Monastery is upon us

serene chasm
#

snow monastery fight where the blood stays on the snow

lone crown
#

You know, the snow monastery would make sense environment-wise

#

It could be the source of all the rivers and lakes in the kingdom, especially if it’s at the top and the snow starts to melt

#

And hey, it could be a valid reason for the Deep Docks coals to be shipped, perfect for heating

torpid orchid
#

hello

lone crown
#

Hello

foggy heath
#

hello

lone crown
#

I know we haven’t seen much of the game but I don’t think we’ve seen anything powered by coal (or anything that would require some)

fleet temple
#

Honestly I hate snow monastery

lone crown
#

So then why ship it to the citadel?

lone crown
fleet temple
#

The name

#

that's it

#

just the name

lone crown
#

Oh, the name isn’t something I officially decided on

#

It was just a way of describing how I pictured it

#

I’m sure there are at least 15 better names

#

But I’m no genius with titles

fleet temple
#

yeah, just doesn't sound hollow knight-y

#

I still don't really know what it exactly is

lone crown
#

To be fair we have simple area names like Moss Grotto but it fits a lot better, and just sounds nice

fleet temple
#

yeah

young cove
#

silksong is coming out tomorrow my orb told me so

prisma meteor
#

we don't wanna hear about your orb it's not appropriate

lone crown
# fleet temple I still don't really know what it exactly is

I envision it as a religious building way up above, its interior having an orange hue with candles inside it, and monk-type NPCs/enemies. I imagine it’s where Shakra’s tribe/clan would reside in, possibly.

As for the exterior, the environment would be much harsher, and you’d have to deal with beast-type enemies in the snow, and atop the whole building there would be a silk ball statue like we see everywhere else in the game

I’d say it could work, or at least, the concept of having a snowy region high above Pharloom, wouldn’t be too farfetched

fleet temple
#

Interesting

lone crown
#

By “monks” I mean enemies that look like Elder Hu and Shakra in terms of uniform

fleet temple
#

I love when people come up with their own fan made areas for ss

lone crown
#

Probably my proudest and most well-known rambling

#

We had pseudo-snow (Kingdom’s Edge) before, why not actual snow

fleet temple
#

yeah

#

I actually had a similar concept for an area like that in my head

lone crown
#

And no I don’t want there to be ice physics

#

It looks a lot cooler in my head than I could possibly describe using words

fleet temple
#

exactly, I like ice areas when they have more to them other than "yeah, snow"

lone crown
#

Snow provides a source for the bodies of water in the game, and the Deep Dock coals make sense, it’d fit like a puzzle piece

fleet temple
#

nice

#

I thought of an idea for a similar area, based in the outskirts of Pharloom, but instead of monks, it was where the steel assasins were located

lone crown
#

Would be cool yea

prisma meteor
#

hornet is just arrietty with a horseshoe head smh why do you guys like her game

lone crown
#

It could be relatively small, but cool nonetheless

fleet temple
#

That's what I was thinking, a small camp area where they base out of in Pharloom

#

I hope we get more areas like the soul sanctum in ss, sub areas with their own music and unique enemies

lone crown
#

Yeah I doubt a foreign assassin group would step foot into a kingdom and just be allowed to set up a base and operations unless specifically hired or told to do so

lone crown
river thicket
#

True,

fleet temple
lone crown
#

We know of three so far

#

Sharpe, the floating thing in the coral region, and a silhouette of a very short one

cerulean sable
#

silksong should have shore raiding

lone crown
#

Yes

fleet temple
lone crown
lone crown
#

Steel Soul Jinn looks awfully similar to them as well, their entire group is suspicious

#

I had this one theory but it’s a bit too bold

fleet temple
lone crown
#

The fuck do they want from Hornet

#

As in, why kill her

wind marsh
wind marsh
lone crown
#

In fact why does everyone want to kill Hornet

fleet temple
wind marsh
lone crown
#

Why was she captured to begin with maggotprime

lone crown
#

I bet all of these questions have the same answer

wind marsh
lone crown
#

I’m just pondering over the unanswered shit

wind marsh
olive bobcat
lone crown
#

Ah

olive bobcat
#

Oh wait actual SS discussion, I'm outta here

lone crown
#

I give you permission (mods can kill me instead)

wind marsh
lone crown
#

No but seriously what does Hornet have that nobody else does

#

To the point where assassins knew of her already unknown reason for capture and set off to Pharloom, on top of characters like Lace threatening to murder her

wind marsh
lone crown
#

I bet once she broke away from the cage they went on high-alert and hired the assassins

lone crown
#

But I don’t think that inherently does anything

#

Maybe they just want as many silk-producers as possible?

#

We can’t forget the weavers have a big role in the game

wind marsh
#

So they could mind control her and legally rule Hallownest

fleet temple
#

What higher being would care about ruling a dead kingdom

wind marsh
#

Maybe they want the crystals

lone crown
#

In the PS4/5 header for Silksong, it says “Become the Princess Knight”

fleet temple
lone crown
#

I don’t know if this refers to anything in-game or playing as a princess knight zote

wind marsh
lone crown
#

Idk it just sounds worded as an “objective” of sorts

#

But probably just me misinterpreting it

fleet temple
#

Also I highly doubt that will be the reason she was captured anyway considering TC said that players won't have to play hk to play ss

lone crown
#

Since the question of why we were captured may not be answered til some major event, we should talk about this major event itself and if it’s been foreshadowed

wind marsh
lone crown
#

I want to bring up the leitmotif in the game’s music and even some of its audio cues

#

About the Dies Irae, which is a bad omen of sorts

fleet temple
lone crown
#

And Pharloom’s Folly adds to my suspicion that something fucked up’s gonna happen

dusty nimbus
wind marsh
#

What insects do you think will be in the game?

wind marsh
lone crown
#

It’s all connected

#

To this one disaster

#

That we have yet to see

wind marsh
lone crown
#

And my guess is

#

Weaver rebellion

dusty nimbus
wind marsh
lone crown
#

Absolute slaughter as angry weavers and others of the sort destroy the natural order of things, which also keep wildlife in general unchecked

dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

But that’s just a crazy guess

wind marsh
dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

It could be one of many of the fucked up events

fleet temple
#

Sandy region?

lone crown
lone crown
fleet temple
#

Ohhh, that one
land of storms knockoff

lone crown
#

Might be a stretch but who knows

dusty nimbus
#

Fucked up event: You mostly get to do quests with someone and communicate with them only at the end of the game to get cursed with a disease by a shaman and it triggers Hornet's ptsd

lone crown
#

Fucked up event: Ballow murders everybody and reveals his true identity as the Deep Dock Proletarian

fleet temple
dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

The coffin area is cool actually

#

The bird-like enemies there are actually seen butchered in Ass Jim’s arena

dusty nimbus
lone crown
dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

Yeah, “bird-like”

#

They’re cool though

dusty nimbus
#

Honestly we've not seen that many flying enemies

lone crown
#

GOD I need this game

dusty nimbus
#

Like most just hover

lone crown
#

We’ve seen at least 15

dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

Oh

dusty nimbus
#

I've seen in ss and I'm happy about it

dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

Yeah they seem to be a lot more versatile

dusty nimbus
#

There seem to also be flying npcs

lone crown
#

Flying NPCs?

#

What NPC flies?

dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

Oh that dude

chilly nexus
lone crown
#

Oh I didn’t see that

dusty nimbus
#

I'd like if generally the white flowers could be stained and the environment is interactive but honestly that's too much work for a big map

lone crown
#

Everyone should pool their ideas into one big snow monastery concept doc one day and if it’s ever being worked on as a mod, a lot of the creative groundwork would be already fulfilled

lone crown
#

Just slight splash on the sprites of the floor and the first layer of background

#

Some enemies bleed this dark purple color

dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

Monastery is made out of shellfish

#

But of course not every idea would be implemented

#

Otherwise it’d be too much

dusty nimbus
#

Imagine if the snow is actually volcanic ash from the volcanic activity at bonebottom

lone crown
#

How would the ash even get up there and not someplace else, considering it’s at the very bottom

dusty nimbus
lone crown
#

Hm

#

I’d prefer actual snow and not another KE but not an inherently bad idea nonetheless

sacred stratus
#

Hi

lone crown
#

It is a made-up region so any interpretation is fine

lone crown
dusty nimbus
dusty nimbus
sacred stratus
flat remnant
#

Do you guys ever achieve something and think about it for the rest of the day knowing damn well there's no way to recreate that success at least not for a bit

vale temple
#

yes

lone crown
#

Yes

kindred pewter
#

yes

sacred stratus
olive bobcat
vale temple
#

frostyy check my drawing grubomg

vale temple
sacred stratus
#

Pretty cool

#

Frosty if I might say

manic abyss
#

also I'm sick so my body physically isn't letting me sleep

flat remnant
vale temple
#

did

flat remnant
#

did

vale temple
#

@grand ferry are we playing soon

sacred stratus
flat remnant
#

I haven't even drawn anything since and i know for a fact it's a tough act to follow

vale temple
#

you didnt draw anything for some hours

manic abyss
#

aluo, have you watched the Gotcha music video released by Pokemon?

flat remnant
vale temple
#

youre going to burn yourself out if you dont take breaks

flat remnant
#

funny thing about that i was extremely burnt out both times i was working on it

#

At 3 am because i wasn't sure what to do next at 11 am since i had trouble shading and when i was finishing the backgrounds because effects are weird

manic abyss
#

you finished your drawing?

flat remnant
#

A while ago yeah

manic abyss
#

I wanna see it

flat remnant
manic abyss
#

ooooo
that's actually very good

#

8.9/10

flat remnant
#

and i live in pain knowing i won't make something of that quality for a bit 🥹

vale temple
#

thats uh
interesting tumblr name cat

manic abyss
#

eh, you never know

flat remnant
#

ignore that sof

vale temple
#

ok crappy cat the tabby cat

flat remnant
#

I needed to watermark it because reasons

manic abyss
#

your next drawing might be as good or even better

flat remnant
#

My next one will definitely be simpler