sk-discussion

[kindred pewter]

yes, a insane man acting as the imposter is perfect

[olive bobcat]

omg Alpharad from Twitter??

[violet path]

No alpharad from youtube

[frigid karma]

pikmin 4 to throw everyone off

[violet path]

X*

[pallid jolt]

group castle the second

[kindred pewter]

uhh actually don't you mean X since twitter changed it's name 🤓

[violet path]

His reaction to pikmin 4 announcement as insane

[olive bobcat]

uhhhh Xcuse me

[kindred pewter]

you are not Xcuse-d

[frigid karma]

y'all still updting twitter?

[violet path]

I’m gonna re x this post

[kindred pewter]

I will X-ray you into obvlivion

[frigid karma]

i haven't updated since like before elon got his hand and it works fiiine

[olive bobcat]

Wait what the fuck hold on

[violet path]

Still a birdie on mobile

[real basalt]

elon musk wil one day buy the letter x
i sincerely believe it

[pallid jolt]

this shit is the new twitter logo yall gotta be grabbing me rn

[olive bobcat]

The song from the new CSM chapter is real???

[kindred pewter]

I hate twitter as much as the next guy, I only use it like twice a month since last time I dind'tuse it monthly, my twitter account got deleted

[real basalt]

noo why

[kindred pewter]

twitter has a policy where if you don't use your month for more than one account, your information of that account is erased

[velvet sentinel]

ok

[kindred pewter]

basically making it so that twitterians do not go outside and touch grass

[violet path]

It looks… interesting

[pallid jolt]

what are they gonna call tweets now, exes?!?!

[kindred pewter]

it looks like so edgy lmao

[velvet sentinel]

im resisting the urge

[kindred pewter]

the urges

[olive bobcat]

I can't fucking believe this is a real song

[frigid karma]

elon musk watched blade and the matrix once and never moved past the aesthetic

[velvet sentinel]

what’s retweet? Rex? 🦖

[opaque sigil]

Wasn’t it xeets or something even dumber than that

[kindred pewter]

thats so dumb

[frigid karma]

"yo check out my new x"

[kindred pewter]

then again it's elon musk so im not suprised

[real basalt]

SO:
-xAi
-Space X
-X AE A-12
-Calling twitter X
Elon's gonna try buy the letter X I'm calling it

[kindred pewter]

NOOOO FUCK MY TWITTER UPDATED ITSELF SHIT

[violet path]

So?

[real basalt]

Grimes?

[opaque sigil]

If he could he would

[velvet sentinel]

worst thing is the new twitter adress. „x.com“

[violet path]

Its still twitter on mobile even up to date

[frigid karma]

the poor soul who's tag is x

[kindred pewter]

I prevented it becaus eI didn't want the bird to be replaced with x

[violet path]

Its still twitter but x.com redirects to it

[frigid karma]

i am happily living in pre elon twitter lmao

[kindred pewter]

This sucks

[pallid jolt]

HE BOUGHT X.COM IT REDIRECTS TO TWITTER

[frigid karma]

have not updted sicne i downloaded it

[real basalt]

X.Com 💀

[pallid jolt]

HOLY GUACOMELE THIS IS REALL

[velvet sentinel]

im actually not joking

[kindred pewter]

poor soul

[pallid jolt]

fr

[real basalt]

well

[violet path]

The twitter bird is so iconic

[kindred pewter]

in a bad way for me imo

[real basalt]

It's called twitter because of that bird

[violet path]

The x.com x is so dumbo

[real basalt]

tweet tweet

[kindred pewter]

fr

[frigid karma]

the new X logo makes it look like an app to find husky voiced twinks nearby

[real basalt]

X.Com sounds excessively edgy

[velvet sentinel]

not only that

[pallid jolt]

those are the only people who use twitter anyway

[opaque sigil]

Musk is a child, he thinks x sounds cool so he calls things x

[frigid karma]

X is so fucking stupid like who the fuck genuinely thinks the letter x has any brand recognition

[pallid jolt]

musk is like 40

HES 52

[opaque sigil]

And does he act like it

[real basalt]

he acts a fifth of that age
probably even less

[violet path]

Lmao

yo guys im gonna scroll through X 😎

[kindred pewter]

musk's favorite letter is x, bro named his child X for sure

[violet path]

He.. actually did

[real basalt]

The a-12 in X AE A-12 is actually the name of a spacecraft i believe

[hard ginkgo]

I love X

[pallid jolt]

LMFAOOOO

[formal iris]

Hell yeah now I own an (approximately) 100 million year old shark tooth that cost £4.50 (it’s just a cool looking pendant)

[frigid karma]

he did lmao

[hard ginkgo]

I love Xing all day

[pastel whale]

Hello pixels, where are you

[flat remnant]

https://twitter.com/drewisgooden/status/1683260351238815744

Drew Gooden (@drewisgooden)

here’s why everyone is WRONG about twitter changing its name to x being “a baffling choice” and “not a smart thing to do”: a thread

🧵

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Twitter · Jul 23, 2023, 11:38 PM

[velvet sentinel]

lets fucking go

[frigid karma]

i wonder how long it will take for all of elon's kids to disown him

[kindred pewter]

he named his space program space X why just hwy

[formal iris]

Twitter is changing its name to “x”?

[kindred pewter]

yes

[frigid karma]

yep

[violet path]

No no

[kindred pewter]

because twitter is shit

[velvet sentinel]

but spaceX sounds cool

[violet path]

ELON is changing twitters name to x

[hard ginkgo]

You mean X

[violet path]

It is not a voluntary change by the idiots of twitter

[formal iris]

I would say I’m upset at this but I don’t really give a damn

[pallid jolt]

i wish mark zuckerburg and elon musk could've actually fought

[frigid karma]

hold on let me send you a cool video i found on x

[pastel whale]

What so how is he gonna get x.com

[kindred pewter]

anyways in conclusion X sucks skype is better

[formal iris]

Anyway my shark tooth pendant is pretty cool

[velvet sentinel]

Elon would change washington DC to washX

[regal tide]

isn't x already trademarked or something?

[frigid karma]

it's a letter

[undone zenith]

Ok

[velvet sentinel]

he already bought it

[real basalt]

Elon's going to

[formal iris]

[frigid karma]

i don't think you can trademark just a letter

[velvet sentinel]

nonono wait wait wait wait wait

[formal iris]

I’m gonna trademark V because it look cool

[kindred pewter]

I did this trick on someone and they said the thing

[velvet sentinel]

V is basically just half a X

[real basalt]

I'm trademarking the letter A

[kindred pewter]

im going to trademark the letter A because my name starts with it so no other name can have the letter A in the begginging to protect my name L

[wet tulip]

Hello Xhumans

[manic abyss]

man, I'm gonna X this on X
see, doesn't have the same ring to it

[real basalt]

You'll have to fight me for it

[regal tide]

wait. elon made twitter allow deadnaming. now everyone is going to deadname twitter

[kindred pewter]

don't you mean X-men

[fiery burrow]

Dibs on b

[vale temple]

x is basically just 2 pacmans glued together

[kindred pewter]

lets chessbox each other

[velvet sentinel]

Im going to Youtube this on youtube?

[formal iris]

Isn’t you mean “V™️ is basically just half a X™️”?

[real basalt]

'stream'

[kindred pewter]

imagine if youtube just changed it's name to Y

[real basalt]

< = x

[manic abyss]

yup

[pallid jolt]

U

[real basalt]

pokemon x and y

[wet tulip]

Hollow knight: silkX

[manic abyss]

I'm gonna post this video on Y!

[kindred pewter]

mid game

[formal iris]

Y

[real basalt]

because

[formal iris]

TRUE

[regal tide]

hollow knight x by team x from the country of x

[manic abyss]

The ceo of X and Meta are gonna have a cage fight to determine who had the worst rebrand

[kindred pewter]

sorry guys, but silksong will now be known as the letter S

[velvet sentinel]

unironically elon will probably buy some obscure island and make a country and just call it X or something stupid like that

[manic abyss]

it will follow H as she journeys through the King of P

[pallid jolt]

HKS

[wet tulip]

X is the new meta

[real basalt]

I'm sorry elon takes

[manic abyss]

have you looked at mark?

[kindred pewter]

no im putting my money on mark

[manic abyss]

lizard's ripped

[velvet sentinel]

if i look at elon threads will actually become more popular

[kindred pewter]

bro mark is taller than elon, plus mark probably has a six pack

[real basalt]

I mean rebrand wise

[frigid karma]

idk how to tell y'all this but mark legit knows martial arts and shit

[manic abyss]

mark does have a six pack
elon has a dad bod

[velvet sentinel]

mark is ripped

[manic abyss]

it's not gonna be a fight, it's gonna be an execution

[pastel whale]

Elon gonna get sued coz x.com will cause brand confusion with the game X-COM

[manic abyss]

HYAKI!

[frigid karma]

mark has the inhuman strengh of the lizard people and elon is built like an inhale

[real basalt]

He'll win

[velvet sentinel]

confusing with A LOT of other sites brands like twitter probably don’t want to be involved with

[frigid karma]

yea?

[real basalt]

Can he take all of them at once?

[manic abyss]

I know how to beat your stupid argument about how lions can beat Pokemon

[pastel whale]

Lol

[marsh ibex]

[velvet sentinel]

i was too scared to say

[kindred pewter]

oh no

[frigid karma]

man that was weeks ago but go ahead

[kindred pewter]

same, the consequences

[manic abyss]

I had to think for a week

[pastel whale]

XXXX coming for Elon

[real basalt]

i was thinking about what the headlines would look like and i remembered this

[frigid karma]

lion think tank

[violet path]

Mark would beat the shit out of elon

Mark trains and goes to the gym

[manic abyss]

alright, here we go, now Hyaki, explain to me how lions can get so smart?

[violet path]

Elon had a dad bod

[frigid karma]

lion think tank

[velvet sentinel]

mark knows karate

[kindred pewter]

you think lions have the power to think, and act as smart as human beings, to make a ladder, and pray and hope a small gush of wind doesn't knockl them up

[clever wedge]

ss coming out after sun explodes right?

[frigid karma]

absolutely

[velvet sentinel]

no

[kindred pewter]

yes

[violet path]

Lions get rolled by pokemon

[regal tide]

lions can't breath in space.

[real basalt]

they'd still lose

[frigid karma]

lion space bunker

[violet path]

If youre using pokedex, lions stand 0 chance. If you use game mechanics, lions stand even less than 0 chance

[velvet sentinel]

pokémon would easily win

[clever wedge]

we'll never know till we try

[stark estuary]

The sun isn’t going to explode

[real basalt]

I mean, billion lions vs 1 universe destroyer

[kindred pewter]

bro there's a pokemon that makes BLAKC HOLES what animal can stop that

[frigid karma]

a lion

[real basalt]

whooooooooooooosh

[velvet sentinel]

Iguana

[regal tide]

how do lions reach the distortion realm?

[kindred pewter]

and how exactly?

[manic abyss]

exactly, now when I proposed Pokemon think tank, I was met with a "Base Pokemon aren't smart enough"
Now, if we're using base Pokemon, it's only fair to use base lions, and base lions aren't smart enough to build advanced machinery, meaning! Pokemon win. Take That!

[violet path]

Yall say “do you know how much a billion is” but theres 8 billion humans like its not an incomprehensible number

[stark estuary]

It’s not a whoosh, the joke doesn’t make sense

[clever wedge]

one million billion zillion trillion lions

[frigid karma]

they kill them

[real basalt]

I genuinely can't believe you

[clever wedge]

yes it is in like a few billion years

[kindred pewter]

how can a lion kill a pokemon when THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD

[clever wedge]

uhm by lioning them to death

[regal tide]

and when celibi travels back to before lions existed?

[violet path]

How do pokemon reach the distortion realm?

[frozen ledge]

Us silksong fans are starving

[regal tide]

giratina can make portals

[frigid karma]

there aren't enough pokemon to make pokempn think tank

[clever wedge]

ok but lion ladder

[velvet sentinel]

you say that like there are any silksong fans lol

[violet path]

Also lions are likely to not have flamethrowers or wings, so they cant TOUCH shedinja

[kindred pewter]

silksong fans try not to think about silksong for 5 seconds challenge (impossible)

[real basalt]

uxie big brain

[kindred pewter]

lions are like one of the most laziest animals

[olive bobcat]

A billion lions is a lot of lions

[violet path]

Lions get ROLLED by the sun

[stark estuary]

The sun isn’t massive enough to trigger a stellar explosion (supernova). In about five billion years it’ll turn into a red giant, and then eventually a white dwarf

[real basalt]

well if we're going on actual powerscaling bidoof takes

[clever wedge]

i ate the sun tho

[real basalt]

🤓

[velvet sentinel]

it’s 1 billion at least one has to have some genetic mutation

[kindred pewter]

you know what is a lot? a fucking hyperbeam

[manic abyss]

HOW DO YOU EVEN MAKE A LION THINK TANK
listen, it was billion lions vs one of every pokemon, LIONS AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO FORM A THINK TANK

[frigid karma]

fr though sometimes i look back on lion space marines and laugh

[marsh ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

the lot of you

[manic abyss]

Joker I swear to god dont call us idiots like you always do when we argue about stuff

[clever wedge]

yes it will i saw it when i travelled 5 billion years into the future

[olive bobcat]

A billion lions are really heavy they could probably just crush the sun

[violet path]

How does a lion attack a ghost

[kindred pewter]

exactly

[real basalt]

i know

[velvet sentinel]

better question. Who would win? Every human on earth or 1 billion lions?

[clever wedge]

by lion ladder

[kindred pewter]

lions are dumb

[marsh ibex]

you’re arguing pokemon and lions

[violet path]

How do lions kill something that literally removes life when it dies

[frigid karma]

bite is dark type which hits ghost type

[real basalt]

do we have nukes

[marsh ibex]

and this is entirely your fault

[manic abyss]

and this is the internet so I don't know what you expected

[kindred pewter]

none of them, humans destroy themselves including the lions

[velvet sentinel]

you have everything that humans have

[marsh ibex]

you’re bad at arguing

[trim estuary]

WAIT REALLY

[real basalt]

How do lions beat a being capable of creating space and time

[manic abyss]

listen
I just wanted to say one thing didn't expect for this to happen

[marsh ibex]

It’d be entertaining if it wasn’t so bad

[violet path]

Bite isnt just biting something, its when a pokemon conjures the dark fangs that we see attack things

[trim estuary]

Lions win

[stark estuary]

I dunno a billion lions is a lot of lions

[kindred pewter]

there are 8 billion human beings

[olive bobcat]

True

[frigid karma]

with great skill and determination, and aslo numbers

[kindred pewter]

and one billion lions

[frigid karma]

human think tank

[stark estuary]

Yeah each lion just has to kill eight humans

[velvet sentinel]

do you think 8 people can kill 1 lion?

[kindred pewter]

you think, that one billion is bigger than seven billion?

[olive bobcat]

Who wins, a billion Pokemon or one of every lion

[manic abyss]

THAT ISN'T HOW IT WORKS

[real basalt]

We arguing humans or pokemon?

[kindred pewter]

with a gun eyah

[regal tide]

humans have militaries

[velvet sentinel]

lions can take a few shots

[stark estuary]

You said eight billion humans not eight billion guns

[frigid karma]

one billion narutos vs one of every goku

[kindred pewter]

aim at the brain

[real basalt]

So do the humans have to surive?

[small goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ACJkafELA

[manic abyss]

I hate you all

[regal tide]

counterpoint, MERICA

[real basalt]

why

[velvet sentinel]

ive already watched that

[frigid karma]

and they have lion god killing gun

[real basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[kindred pewter]

why did I see window in the first second of the video

[olive bobcat]

If the humans get weapons then why don't lions get weapons too

[marsh ibex]

you reaping: ahahgahaha
You sowing :this sucks this really sucks

[regal tide]

are lions known to use weapons?

[real basalt]

they wou;dn't be able to use them

[manic abyss]

I know right?

[real basalt]

Humans can just nuke all the lions

[clever wedge]

who's to say theyre normal lions? they could be lion gods

[olive bobcat]

What if you give lions shields, they can use armor

[real basalt]

nuke

[manic abyss]

I do this way too often to myself

[frigid karma]

yes, how else do you evpect them to use their lion guns?

[stark estuary]

You do realize nukes have friendly fire right

[manic abyss]

thanks for understanding Joker

[frigid karma]

lion demon core

[regal tide]

do the lions know when silksong

[real basalt]

i am aware

[clever wedge]

what if i turn it off

[kindred pewter]

no cuase they are fucking dumb

[real basalt]

Alright but one of these people is Joe biden who can use the biden blast
we also have reverse cards

[frigid karma]

lion bunker so they survive

[olive bobcat]

Then explain this photo

[clever wedge]

thats what my mom said

[velvet sentinel]

yes they do. That’s why they are so angry and attacking mankind

[manic abyss]

and tbh once you don't take part in the conversation it becomes really funny

[pallid jolt]

twoja matka jest ogromnych rozmiarow

[real basalt]

and we also have the obamahameha

[stark estuary]

Dev mode

[regal tide]

lions bribe hollow fanbase to betray humanity for silksong release date, lions win.

[frigid karma]

or if you take the side of lions you just get to make up shit and laugh

[pallid jolt]

i could take a lion in a fight if you gave me like, 3 hours prep time, and a baseball bat

[olive bobcat]

Oppenheimer doesn't count in the fight because he has dev mode so it's only like 7.9 billion humans, I think lions have a good shot

[manic abyss]

shoot I'll bite

lions have the lion bomb

[frigid karma]

lions have the think tank

[violet path]

Lions will lose

[manic abyss]

lions can compress into one space and form a lion black hole

[frigid karma]

lionheimer

[real basalt]

Well what about the lion hunters

[kindred pewter]

peak cinema

[regal tide]

do humans have chuck norris

[olive bobcat]

If all the lions roar at the same time then they can deafen the humans

[real basalt]

yes

[manic abyss]

lion hunters can't shoot a black hole

[velvet sentinel]

who would win? 1 USAF F 15 Fighter Jet with 4 AGM or 1 million lions?

[vagrant umbra]

I had a dream Silksong was just Ori and the Blind Forest cave level except you controlled a Hornet with the Purah pad and you swapped places with the Knight who had the Sheikah slate. It was wild.

[frigid karma]

the lions have lion el johnson they win

[real basalt]

lions can't fight the biden blast

[pallid jolt]

who would win: hornet slickshlong or 1 million lions

[real basalt]

biden could kill 10 trillion lion

[real basalt]

hornet

[manic abyss]

counterpoint, Obama has the Obamehameha and Biden and Obama hate each other so they'll take each other out

[real basalt]

8 billion humans or one lion

[frigid karma]

but the biden blast isn't getting past the lion bunker

[real basalt]

No they'll work together to save MERICA

[olive bobcat]

Are we trusting that the lions don't also have infighting

[real basalt]

you really underestimate the biden blast

[manic abyss]

MERICA won't exist because the lion would've eaten it all

[real basalt]

If humans have infighting...

[real basalt]

Vengeance for merica

[manic abyss]

two words LION MECHA

[vagrant umbra]

Does anyone here know about the Obama boss battle with over 100 phases?

[frigid karma]

human infighting is worse

[real basalt]

We make V1 and V2 and they kill all the lions

[frigid karma]

lion gundam

[real basalt]

poor design

[real basalt]

V1 does it hitless

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-v1-ultrakill-suit-smile-gif-26496634

[frigid karma]

nah gundam beats v1

[regal tide]

should this conversation go in off-topic instead?

[real basalt]

(this is the ultrakill lore)

[manic abyss]

lions have Ari Gibson on their side

[olive bobcat]

no

[manic abyss]

nope

[real basalt]

since when were you under the impression that ss discussion wasn't offtopic?

But humans have bears

[frigid karma]

?sspsa

[marsh ibex]

?tag offtopic read the whole thing please

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[frigid karma]

wait shit wrong command huh

[vagrant umbra]

Here it is:

https://youtu.be/soJS5bHd6iQ

[marsh ibex]

Yeah

[manic abyss]

Ari Gibson is friends with Chuck Norris and Chuck Norris can beat all humans lions clear

[stark estuary]

I’d like to discuss something about Silksong now

[marsh ibex]

that being

[real basalt]

but then the lions eat gibson's cookies

[frigid karma]

uhhh, tools

[real basalt]

chuck kills all the lions

[uncut citrus]

Kirb no

[real basalt]

hornet

[manic abyss]

lions are homies they don't care

[real basalt]

gibson cares

[manic abyss]

nah lion wins

[stark estuary]

I’m sorry Reeves, I must…

[real basalt]

well hornet can beat the sun

[manic abyss]

Gibson is also a homie

[stark estuary]

Do people think Hornet’s Wyrm heritage will be an important part of the game

[real basalt]

they can't beat this guy

[manic abyss]

having fun Joker?

[frigid karma]

thi convo is actually rotting my mind

[real basalt]

they can't beat rick

[opaque sigil]

They want her pretty bad if they sent a crew across the wastes so maybe

[real basalt]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[marsh ibex]

It’s possible that she has some special properties that make her wanted

[real basalt]

imo we can't negotiate with big blue cheese

[kindred pewter]

I feel so fucking eppy rn

[real basalt]

we need a wyrmborn to sacrifice

[stark estuary]

?tag offtopic

[white sail]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[stark estuary]

We’re discussing Silksong now

[frigid karma]

tbh i think hornet's weaver heritage will be more important in ss

[real basalt]

Alright guys
let's stop talking about lions
it's getting nowhere

[manic abyss]

no we're not

[opaque sigil]

Hornet’s silk is probably different in quality but whatever whoever is up to seems to be working without it

[manic abyss]

alright fineeee

[olive bobcat]

Do you think SS will have antlions

[stark estuary]

Well they have plenty of Weavers already

[manic abyss]

anyways what were you saying about Hornet?

[real basalt]

The wyrm heritage combined with the silk power

[marsh ibex]

I’m assuming that her silk abilities are different enough to warrant capture

[frigid karma]

i lion icannotdothinsanymore

[marsh ibex]

maybe they just want to cut out the middle man

[opaque sigil]

Hornet also doesn’t have weaver heritage

[real basalt]

The wyrm stuff makes more sense

[kindred pewter]

matpat be like "Pk is made out of void all along!"

[stark estuary]

Well Hornet’s silk is already Soul-infused

[manic abyss]

I heard spiderwebs can stop a bullet does that make Hornet bulletproof?

[real basalt]

matpat 'guys everyone is pk'

[stark estuary]

Stop with the lions

[uncut citrus]

this was you, Kirb, in case you forgot

[marsh ibex]

y’all can stop endlessly shitposting

[manic abyss]

yes

[kindred pewter]

YOU are actually the reincarnation of Pk

[real basalt]

praise be

[frigid karma]

fr though i wanna see why lace has so much beef with hornet

[stark estuary]

No it wasn’t?

[real basalt]

whyyyyyyyyyyy

[stark estuary]

I genuinely don’t remember this

[uncut citrus]

🥹

[marsh ibex]

because there’s an actual discussion going on and you’re taking away from it

[stark estuary]

I mean I’ve said a lot of dumb shit here so it isn’t surprising

[kindred pewter]

she's jealous that you have more friends than her

[frigid karma]

the lady just got here and lace immidiately comes to get kill her

[real basalt]

Maybe she could be like hornet in the original game, a mentor

[uncut citrus]

you were not even trolling, it was a plain joke but it was still funny

[stark estuary]

Hornet wasn’t much of a mentor and Lace is definitely not from what we’ve seen

[uncut citrus]

hold on i have another wait

[manic abyss]

no we aren't 3 people are talking about it while we're doing our own thing, multiple conversations can go on at the same time

[marsh ibex]

Reeves can you not

ugh

[stark estuary]

Hornet doesn’t need a mentor and Lace wants to fucking kill her

[stark estuary]

Not train her

[opaque sigil]

Hornet probably isn’t absolutely necessary or else haunted bugs wouldn’t be trying to kill her, whatever function she could fill is probably not something only she could do (or it’s a role that doesn’t need to be filled)

[kindred pewter]

I wll not think about it

[manic abyss]

Queen Vespa

[frigid karma]

based on the dialouge we've seen she straight up wants to kill hornet. i don't think she's gonna be helping us anytime soon.

[stark estuary]

Vespa was never Hornet’s mentor

[marsh ibex]

that’s unrelated

[uncut citrus]

here

[frigid karma]

like hornet wasn't holding a vendetta against us like lace seems to have in ss

[real basalt]

i mean hornet wanted to kill the knoght at first...

[manic abyss]

Vespa trained Hornet

[marsh ibex]

No she didn’t

[uncut citrus]

after i sent this beautiful image

[marsh ibex]

Reeves

[kindred pewter]

I mean hornet wanted to kill us in hollow knight, if we follow the pattern, and lace is a rival to hornet like how hornet was a rival to the knight

[uncut citrus]

oh are yall having an actual convo

[real basalt]

she could become an ally then maybe

[stark estuary]

She wasn’t really a rival

[marsh ibex]

yes

[opaque sigil]

It’s reasonable to say that lace’s introduction is analogous to Hornet’s but that doesn’t mean their roles will be comparable going forwards

[uncut citrus]

[manic abyss]

TK's rival was THK

[marsh ibex]

they weren’t rivals

[real basalt]

interesting thought actually

[stark estuary]

I mean I’d argue her introduction is still fairly different

[real basalt]

what were they then?

[manic abyss]

no, it was Cornifer

[opaque sigil]

It is, but there’s some resemblance nevertheless

[chilly nexus]

I go over Lace's motivation in my SS lore doc if ppl enjoy reading

[frigid karma]

when we fought she didn't hate the knight, she just thought the knight was gonna attack her so she acted in self defense. there wasn't any personal "i want to kill you specifically" feelings as lace seems to have for hornet

[real basalt]

ah, makes sense

[stark estuary]

It was definitely not self defense

[marsh ibex]

well Lace is trying to stop us from reaching the top of the citadel

[fiery burrow]

They work together for the same goal I don't think they are really rivals

[stark estuary]

Hornet has been hunting Vessels for a very long time

[kindred pewter]

true..

[real basalt]

maybe she could be like a major member of the capturing group

[opaque sigil]

Lace is also plausibly just trying to stop hornet from inadvertently advancing some other agenda

[opaque sigil]

Probably not

[manic abyss]

Hornet has a habit of immediately attacking people, attacking TK was not self defense

[vale temple]

@gilded adder 🗿

[manic abyss]

sof

[marsh ibex]

There’s a discussion going on rn

[gilded adder]

Oh, nice, I didn't even realize the episode dropped

[vale temple]

mb

[kindred pewter]

NO WAY

[fiery burrow]

do you guys think somebody sent that seal breaking bug or do you think it's a coincidence

[gilded adder]

But Joker is right

Could have DMed me it

[chilly nexus]

that's it yeah, Lace "knows" that if hornet gets to the citadel, the citadel will just end up using her to further their current plot which is the silking of the citizens (hornet is another source fir silk)

[marsh ibex]

Lace most likely did so

[opaque sigil]

Would be a very odd coincidence

[stark estuary]

Lace is seen conducting them

[frigid karma]

self defense in the sense you see a bear charging at you you panik you shoot

[chilly nexus]

Lace sent it, we see her controlling them and it matches with her motivation (not wanting the citadel to have hornet)

[fiery burrow]

why'd she free Hornet only to try to kill her later?

[marsh ibex]

she did both

[opaque sigil]

Intercept the cage bearers then cut off hornet before the citadel can get her

[marsh ibex]

Hornet almost died from that fall

[stark estuary]

She doesn’t want the citadel to get her yeah

[chilly nexus]

freeing hornet from citadel and killing hornet = citadel doesn't have hirnet

[fiery burrow]

interesting

[real basalt]

maybe they would have brought her to the citadel

[manic abyss]

TK wasn't charging at her, nor was Quirrek when she attacked him

[stark estuary]

It wasn’t self defense

[fiery burrow]

I'd like to see Lace interact with and maybe fight some citadel members

[kindred pewter]

in the game, there will be a cutscene where hornet fights lace, and lace lies on the ground, with hornet pointing her needle at her. Then, in a sudden twitst, hornet throws her needle, and says "maybe the real silksong was the friends we made along" and awaits lace's answer if she would help her in her journey or not

[opaque sigil]

Given that they were the citadel caste, likely yes

[stark estuary]

Hornet was going to go out of her way to try and kill TK sooner or later

TK just happened to find her first

It wasn’t an “oh shit what’s this thing” moment like Dung Defender

She knew what TK was and that it probably wasn’t a threat to her but wanted to kill it anyway

[frigid karma]

then why didn't she just attack us on sight instead of running away in greenpath

[stark estuary]

Presumably because she’d prefer to fight in a more open space

[opaque sigil]

Drawing TK to a good place to jump it

[stark estuary]

Hornet is very mobile

[chilly nexus]

it would be cool if the final Lace fight sees citadel bugs entering the arena in waves and you're periodically fighting lace and then working with lace to fight off the bugs ye

[fiery burrow]

Is it known whether or not the weavers are working with the citadel?

[real basalt]

that actually sounds cool

[stark estuary]

They probably aren’t working with them given they appear to be captured

[opaque sigil]

Given their condition I doubt they’re doing anything voluntarily

[real basalt]

i mean hornet would probably know about that...

[pallid jolt]

probably not

[stark estuary]

No reason for her to know about that, no

[chilly nexus]

I think you'd like my lore doc, it touches in alll these things

[frigid karma]

i still feel there wasn't anything personal vendetta or target for the knight whereas lace is gunning for you specifically

[opaque sigil]

Lace certainly doesn’t have mixed feelings

[stark estuary]

Why are there lore docs for a game that isn’t even out

[marsh ibex]

It isn’t personal vendetta for the Knight, yes. Probably not for Lace either

She seems to just like killing

[real basalt]

BLOOD
BLOOD
BLOOD

[chilly nexus]

cuz I made a huge mindmap to connect the dots and things fit surprisingly well

[fiery burrow]

In the "new heroes" scene?

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[real basalt]

hype

[stark estuary]

Seems a little premature but ok

[pallid jolt]

isnt cuz she doesnt want just some random vessel to go free the hk

[chilly nexus]

but fun

[fiery burrow]

dang I thought that was like a tomb or something

[chilly nexus]

Graig read my lore doc

[real basalt]

dm me
(im not graig though)

[frigid karma]

lace seems to have an agenda with hornet though. like she sent the seal breaking bug and looked through bone lava place to kill her there was a personal motive there

[stark estuary]

Well as Tammo said Lace presumably wants to dispose of her before the Citadel can get her

[opaque sigil]

It doesn’t have to be personal at all

[chilly nexus]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v17P6BpnQ5lFyFilLM5mjvkpOj0-TJHF/edit

I need to revise some herrah stuff but otherwise here's the doc

[marsh ibex]

she sent the seal bug that almost led to Hornet’s death yes

[chilly nexus]

fr it touches on all of these things

you guys will like it

[opaque sigil]

idk how it would be personal given that hornet hasn’t met anybody in Pharloom other than maybe some of the weavers

[chilly nexus]

my gosh I need to just make the video tho

[stark estuary]

I never thought I’d be referred to a doc outside of lore

[chilly nexus]

it has screenshots!

[pallid jolt]

im pretty sure bells are just like a cultural thing

[chilly nexus]

see the doc^

[marsh ibex]

Why isn’t there capitalization in it

[opaque sigil]

Probably not just that but yes music is a part of Pharloom’s culture

[stark estuary]

You don’t have to keep telling people to check the doc, this is a discussion channel

[frigid karma]

or it could be an instrument of sorts as songs are a part of ss

[chilly nexus]

pinkie was too sore to hit shift that day

[real basalt]

its not the end of the world

[marsh ibex]

I mean yeah but like

[real basalt]

waiiiit

[chilly nexus]

the doc connects all the disjointed questions

[real basalt]

what if the source of the silk is the creator of the spiders
in the same vein as the radiance is the creator of the moths

[stark estuary]

Don’t know why you’d assume that

[opaque sigil]

idk why it would be

[marsh ibex]

not every race was made by a higher being

[pallid jolt]

that theory actually makes a lot of sense

[marsh ibex]

and spiders just yknow, make their own silk afawk

[pallid jolt]

about the bells

[chilly nexus]

such a fast reader omg 👀
I'm glad you liked it!

[stark estuary]

I’m not sure TC want to do a carbon copy of HK’s story

[marsh ibex]

Hornet’s not part weaver

[frigid karma]

because we don't even know if pharloom has any greater being in it. it's also very unlikely sine the godseeker implies most kingdoms don't have higher beings at all

[spark vale]

Is silksong even real

[pallid jolt]

yeah some people would say im kind of smart (lie)

[opaque sigil]

The basic premise is similar but HK didn’t exactly play the zombies straight so dunno why you would assume ss will

[chilly nexus]

Ik joker, I need to edit that intro stuff

[marsh ibex]

smh

[chilly nexus]

I talked with a few ppl abt it

focus on the ss bits proceeding

[frigid karma]

HOW TF DO I MIX UP HALLOWNEST AND PHARLOOM

[real basalt]

hmmm fair

[marsh ibex]

No

[stark estuary]

Well if nothing else the haunting appears to be more physical than the infection was

[real basalt]

i mean the godseeker did mention 'false gods' or something iirc

[opaque sigil]

It could easily have some, Hallownest just has a high concentration of gods and HBs relative to the wastes, which is probably true of Pharloom too

[marsh ibex]

Herrah’s beast title doesn’t particularly seem Pharloomian but I’ll let it slide

[chilly nexus]

there's two hauntings
ari and will said it thenselves "a kingdom haunted by silk and song"

[real basalt]

The weavers could have migrated from loom

[chilly nexus]

indeed

[marsh ibex]

not my point

[opaque sigil]

That… does not mean there are separate phenomena

[real basalt]

The song is never gonna give you up

[spark vale]

Silksong coming out January 2025

[stark estuary]

I mean from what we know so far The Voice is presumably a HB, and it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume that the source of the Haunting was one as well

[chilly nexus]

fr that's why there are bells

[frigid karma]

it could be a singular haunting that both silks and songs

[chilly nexus]

you saw what lace can do with song

[opaque sigil]

The voice is certainly a reasonable candidate given seth

[marsh ibex]

It doesn’t seem like a title that the weavers gave her at all

Bare minimum it’s something she was already referred to as I think

[limpid nebula]

Woah ss disc is active I think I missed something

[chilly nexus]

don't think of it like a title, think of it like what you would call those things

[pallid jolt]

i do like the idea that the bells are a sort of way to ward off the 'song'

[opaque sigil]

Beast is a title, thinking of it as anything else is wrong

[marsh ibex]

why would you not refer to it as a title

[stark estuary]

Yeah we don’t know enough about the Haunting to assume shit but Seth’s definitely being empowered by a higher power

[marsh ibex]

Lurien the Watcher?

[chilly nexus]

did you read the part about hirnet fainting?

[marsh ibex]

Monomon the Teacher?

[chilly nexus]

(this was my intention, I just wanted them to suspend disbelief)

[opaque sigil]

And fighting beyond death, decent resemblance to infection

[real basalt]

I can't wait for the final battle where The One Who Silks and Songs says 'I am the one who silks and songs. Insignificant, ungrateful spider, you shall hear the Silksong' and then the Silksong starts playing

[frigid karma]

herrah could be a pharloomian that got the title of beast in hallownest

[marsh ibex]

She’s not

She’s a common Deepnest bug

[real basalt]

like mrbeast

[limpid nebula]

Why would herrah be from pharloom

[opaque sigil]

She’s not a weaver, nor were the weavers in Hallownest individually from Pharloom, there had been generations

[marsh ibex]

We see what the weavers look like lol

[real basalt]

migration, exile, idk

[stark estuary]

I guess you could read into Pharloom’s Folly as being analogous to the Elegy for Hallownest (implying the existence of a HB similar to PK) but I don’t think that’s particularly likely and honestly hope it isn’t the case

[marsh ibex]

he’s saying that a second generation that had been born in Deepnest is here

[limpid nebula]

Weaver

[marsh ibex]

idr what the enemies were called

Either little weavers or weaverlinhs

[opaque sigil]

Having some loose analogues doesn’t mean it’ll be the same story ultimately, especially when those are generally superficial similarities

[real basalt]

little weavers

[pallid jolt]

that weaver jumpscared me so hard on my first playthrough

[chilly nexus]

generational stuff is weak/technical, you can skip ahead to the SS bits

[stark estuary]

Little Weavers, Weaverlings are the things spawned by the Weaversong Charm

[marsh ibex]

They already mentioned the whole separation of silk and song stuff right

[stark estuary]

I’m not sure why they’d necessarily be separate phenomena

[frigid karma]

silk and song are in fact different things

[opaque sigil]

There’s no reason to assume that whatever is afflicting the kingdom isn’t doing it via both

[pallid jolt]

the deephunter, deeplings, and stalking devouts aren't weavers right

[opaque sigil]

Correct

[frigid karma]

actually now that i think about it the reason the cidael wants weavers could be to use their soul silk to make string instruments

[stark estuary]

Hollow Knight did have two separate effects coexisting (beacon and infection) but again that isn’t really relevant or anything

[sick elm]

Midwife - Weaversong - Weaversong

Ohhhh.. Heehee. Been prying about the weavers' home, have you my dear? Quite brazen to pilfer that special charm.
Amazing things the weavers once crafted on their looms; stories, shields, spells. So much of our history was spun upon their spools. Your little friends there are testament to their talents... heehee.
Oh! I do apologise. I've just felt a rumbling down below, in my belly. Just wait right there a moment. Don't you move now...

[real basalt]

The final boss will be ed sheeran who needs a new guitar

[opaque sigil]

The only weavers you encounter are the little weavers, some corpses in the den, and the last uninfected weaver departing

[marsh ibex]

Not as separate as you might think

[pallid jolt]

so the weavers were like really important to the deepnest people right

[limpid nebula]

Bread Sheeran

[frigid karma]

like we see hornet playing some song with sil and her needle so maybe using weaver silk give the song different properties

[real basalt]

Oh god now i want to see the Ed sheeran boss fight in silksong

[marsh ibex]

I mean the weavers explicitly used silk to craft songs

[stark estuary]

Midwife says so yes, “so much of our history was spun on their spools”

[chilly nexus]

ye and we see in the trailer that frets are being used to organize the silk like a guitar

[fiery burrow]

If the last weaver departs during the timeframe of the game does that mean they left like very recently

[opaque sigil]

Yes

[chilly nexus]

silk can mechanically control
can be used to make song
and then there's also song

[opaque sigil]

Weavers probably only left after the call went out

[marsh ibex]

I’d say weaversong and midwife’s dialogue is enough to not really consider “silk” and “song” two separate forces

[fiery burrow]

Yeah that makes sense since deepnest just got infected

[marsh ibex]

now I gotta go to work

Or well

Run to it

Stupid ass fire drill

[real basalt]

Maybe it represents the physical and the abstract?
im overthinking it

[chilly nexus]

tis all in my doc!

[frigid karma]

yeah but silk string instruments could be used by anyone so it's for the best the citedel get them instead of relying on the weavers (assuming silkstring instruments are what they want)

also gooby joker

[chilly nexus]

there's also vocal song though, and bell song

song isn't just from silk

[opaque sigil]

It’s not entirely clear what the exact use of the silk is but it’s probably used in their mind control stuff

[real basalt]

I wonder...
If there are weavers who make silk, are there composers who makes song?

[real basalt]

there is no war in pharloom

[chilly nexus]

yeet! check the doc

[marsh ibex]

Conductors are a thing

[stark estuary]

Bruh

[opaque sigil]

No, there’s no magical separation between music and silk in that way

[real basalt]

Oh yeah...

[chilly nexus]

whoops read composer as conductor

[frigid karma]

yeah, they probaby use some special metal for brass instruments and vocal songs are dependant on the species

[chilly nexus]

ye there are conductors who can channel the song for their own things

[opaque sigil]

source?

[chilly nexus]

Lace is one of them (clearly)

[real basalt]

Thing is, it says that the song is a higher force... who made that song?

[pallid jolt]

the voice

[marsh ibex]

I genuinely don’t think there’s enough to say that they’re entirely separate forces

[opaque sigil]

making up random stuff about silksong isn't that hard, it's actually substantiating claims that's important

[marsh ibex]

Or even like

Substances

Yes you can sing without silk or make song w/out it

[stark estuary]

Can confirm (I am an expert at making up random things about Silksong)

[opaque sigil]

silk isn't its own power source either, it's a medium for using soul

[frigid karma]

what if the song is what gives phrloom sentience ala the pale king and using instruments out of special materials like weaversilk or special brass allows you to channel that sentience to mind control

[opaque sigil]

there's probably no beacon of any kind

[stark estuary]

I don’t think Pharloom has a resident Wyrm

[opaque sigil]

wyrm or whatever else

[real basalt]

could be

[frigid karma]

ye they have the song instead

[chilly nexus]

the bells are more to protect against exactly that

[opaque sigil]

wrong

[stark estuary]

Source

[real basalt]

The song might be similar to the infection

[opaque sigil]

if pharloom had something like hallownest then weavers couldn't emigrate and caste members couldn't be sent abroad

[frigid karma]

idk i just kinda spat out that half baked theory without thinking too hard

[limpid nebula]

[chilly nexus]

my lore doc, the game isn't out yet so it's a for fun theory where I try to connect docs without taking big stretches

[stark estuary]

making up random stuff about silksong isn't that hard, it's actually substantiating claims that's important

[marsh ibex]

or they don’t necessarily need a wyrm

[quaint cloud]

will silksong be a prequel?

[opaque sigil]

they obviously don't

[marsh ibex]

we don’t know

[opaque sigil]

not without retconning

[frigid karma]

i mean the mantises were fine without pk so maybe the wevers could be fine without song the same way

[marsh ibex]

currently sequel seems the most obvious

[opaque sigil]

in which case there's no reason to assume any magical effect exists at all

[chilly nexus]

I mean, think right: Bells are everywhere
if something is literally everywhere, the odds that it's out of necessity is high

[fiery burrow]

could hollow knight just take place in a timeline where Hornet didn't die in silksong?

[opaque sigil]

mantes were fine without pk because most things with minds don't need any wonky magic shit

pharloom probably doesn't need anything to grant sapience

[marsh ibex]

I dunno why they wouldn’t follow the same logic as the first game

[opaque sigil]

the issue is more with the timing of the weavers' departure

[stark estuary]

Well they travelled all the way to Hallownest

Portable beacon

[opaque sigil]

which they couldn't do if they needed a wyrm or bells or whatever

[fiery burrow]

ah yeah that makes sense

[stark estuary]

I don’t know why we’d assume that when HK clearly shows that sapience can arise naturally

[opaque sigil]

tc's also already provided the reasoning for hornet to lose her abilities from hk in ss, as well as nodded to the fact that she lost her sting shards

neither of which would make any sense for a prequel

[marsh ibex]

also

not sure if the vertical silk strands holds up anymore

[manic abyss]

prediction: Hornet will die of void bacon.

[marsh ibex]

Don’t believe we’ve seen that phenomenon since

2019?

[chilly nexus]

ik, i made the doc way back then

[stark estuary]

And they’ve introduced seal-breaking flies which means it can follow Sealed Siblings, and that’s consistent with them previously saying that they’d try to account for all endings in future content

[fiery burrow]

vertical silk strands?

why's the direction matter

[marsh ibex]

old guard stuff

used to be puppetmaster around these parts

[opaque sigil]

I have to imagine the puppetmaster stuff was always a bait and switch

[marsh ibex]

shut up tammy

[stark estuary]

Yeah

[marsh ibex]

I’ll bait you into the maw of a goam

[frigid karma]

And I'm arguing that if they did (and big if there isn't much backing it up) it might be the song

[radiant wraith]

a strong bug could be stronger than the strings

[marsh ibex]

well yes if you argue based on hypotheticals your theory is more valid

[frigid karma]

I love coming up with theoretical what ifs and overthinking them

[opaque sigil]

if there was anything doing that then the caste members wouldn't have been able to go get hornet, they would've turned into animals the moment they walked out the door

[frigid karma]

Maybe the bells are songy and they're good as long as they can hear them chime

[chilly nexus]

Bells imo are protection

[opaque sigil]

what

[chilly nexus]

where did snail go

[marsh ibex]

How would that work?

[frigid karma]

I have no idea

[radiant wraith]

They have portal inside their bells that teleport the strings into them from afar

[marsh ibex]

Mechanically we don’t comprehend how wyrm beacons function yes

But they seem essence based

[chilly nexus]

I have this all in the doc btw

[opaque sigil]

wyrm beacons are magic

[frigid karma]

Basically bells are portable song so they have sentience provider nearby

[marsh ibex]

Why would song function as wyrm wifi

or idk a cellular hotspot

[radiant wraith]

The strings are ethernet

[frigid karma]

Silknet

[radiant wraith]

but the bells have mobile data

[opaque sigil]

anyways if bells were protections from getting silked up nobody in the kingdom would be silked up, that's just obviously wrong

[chilly nexus]

strings are fiber optic and bells are satellite

[frigid karma]

The reason they want the weaver silk is so they can have fiber connection

[chilly nexus]

not protection from getting silked, protection from the song

from getting conducted

[opaque sigil]

that's not a thing

and so now the song is protection from the song

[frigid karma]

Bells drown out the song

[chilly nexus]

yeet

[sinful flare]

bells are the song

[frigid karma]

Is what jacoby seems to be saying

[opaque sigil]

bells are song

[sinful flare]

bells song

[chilly nexus]

lace doesn't use bells to control the kight buggs

she conducts the song that exists in the air if pharloom

[marsh ibex]

I thought the bells protected from losing sapience?

[frigid karma]

Either they are portable song for sentience firld or they drown out the sonf so they don't get songed or something idk

[opaque sigil]

she's not singing to the bugs at all

[chilly nexus]

the song is in the air/always there

she's just conducting/using it

[frigid karma]

The music in the air

[sinful flare]

song is in the air? WRONG! silk leak

[opaque sigil]

neither of those make any sense

and if the song isn't actual sound then bells wouldn't disrupt it anyways

and if bells could disrupt it then nobody would be affected ever anywhere

[fiery burrow]

what do the bells prevent air or something

[limpid nebula]

So much song discussion

[marsh ibex]

If song is a force that can be disrupted by itself/is apparently everywhere in Pharloom

[chilly nexus]

no more silkers in chat now

[marsh ibex]

Why would dinging a bell stop that haunting

[rapid topaz]

If music is in the air, why don't the wind makes you deaf...... society

[marsh ibex]

Wouldn’t that need to be constant

[hard ginkgo]

R

[frigid karma]

The song is metaphorical and so is the bell's prtection

[chilly nexus]

I mean, you see ppl wearing and carrying bells for constant dinging

[marsh ibex]

what

[stark estuary]

Metaphorical protection

[opaque sigil]

metaphorical protection? so it doesn't actually protect anybody from anything

[chilly nexus]

shakra and all her bangles constantly clanging

[frigid karma]

Like, the ideas are linked and it's just like that so the audience understands their use betrer

[marsh ibex]

uh huh

[chilly nexus]

fr tho this is all in the doc and connected to other things too

[opaque sigil]

I mean using essence for this would be the kind of boring retreaded ground

and bells don't disrupt essence, you can use your dreamgate in a stag station

[frigid karma]

Audiece understand that bells drown out music, so the magic bell drowns out the effect of the song so

[stark estuary]

Shut up about the fucking doc we get it

[marsh ibex]

Don’t be rude

[opaque sigil]

the bells that aren't indicated to be magical and are all over the place but don't actually drown out the effect of anything

[frigid karma]

Let him promote his doc mn

[opaque sigil]

I mean don't

advertising and all that

[chilly nexus]

but you don't tho

this is like when men try ti discuss the female experience amongst themselves without reading any books by female authors cuz they don't want to

[stark estuary]

It’s disruptive to the ongoing conversation and they’ve already been asked to stop doing it multiple times

[opaque sigil]

but just ignore the doc stuff

[chilly nexus]

by u

[marsh ibex]

dude what

[olive bobcat]

How

[frigid karma]

The truth is, we don't know shit capitain

[chilly nexus]

it's a stretch

I just wanted to say that

[stark estuary]

That’s not an argument

[marsh ibex]

idk man you keep talking about the doc but it’s not up to date from what I’ve seen

[stark estuary]

We know enough not to make baseless claims

[chilly nexus]

it's not about baseless claims

[opaque sigil]

internal consistency would also be a good start

[olive bobcat]

Also that document is not a valid source for a discussion

[opaque sigil]

nobody cares about the document we aren't talking about the document

[marsh ibex]

A lot of assertions I’m seeing in chat either contradict each other or just don’t work from what we know?

[stark estuary]

It’s not particularly helpful to keep redirecting people to an outdated poorly formatted doc when they’re in the middle of a discussion

It’s also irrelevant as Tammo said

[marsh ibex]

I’d be more willing to keep reading the doc if it wasn’t getting a lot of small things wrong

[frigid karma]

Yeah but not enough to know for sure that the song or the bells or any of the plot is so I'm just throwing shit out there

[stark estuary]

Don’t

making up random stuff about silksong isn't that hard, it's actually substantiating claims that's important

[opaque sigil]

I mean you can do that but presenting it as plausible isn't really sensible

[marsh ibex]

I’ll keep reading but also continuously redirecting to a doc during discussion is a little annoying

[opaque sigil]

sure maybe silk and song are somehow different opposing forces and there's a bell wyrm or something but idk why you would discuss those possibilities when they aren't really indicated

[indigo nymph]

Whoooo cares if people make stuff up, it's fun and the game isn't out yet

[opaque sigil]

now the one thread of something there is there is the bell in dd that's tied up after the lace room but that bell also has some specific spell on it that probably does something, it's not just some bell

[stark prism]

whats swaggin is somebody sayin swag shied right now?

[marsh ibex]

it’s a discussion about stuff that could actually be in the game yknow

it’s being pushed as a very good reading of what will be in the game

[languid linden]

Yes yes I know

[marsh ibex]

also why do people always mention “let people have fun” when someone disagrees

[stark prism]

WHAT STUFF I NEED TO KNOW

[opaque sigil]

like whatever magic this is doing isn't ""song magic"" or whatever, it's soul

[stark prism]

idk some type of automated responce hallucination

[marsh ibex]

I still find it funny that the trailer was tinted

[silk zodiac]

is ss discussion actually being as discussion today?

[stark estuary]

What if the Bell Wyrm has song magic instead of Soul (the Pale King had Soul power opposed idk) and they need Hornet to undo the magic because she’s a half-Wyrm!!!?!

[stark prism]

how

[opaque sigil]

untinted

[marsh ibex]

It’s possible that the silk particles on hit are simply hornet synthesizing it immediately

her “silk and soul are inseparably bound” after all

[stark estuary]

When Hornet strikes enemies silk particles come out which wouldn’t make sense outside of that context

[stark prism]

hornet doesnt bind once during the events of hollow knight this is possibly due to no one in hallownest having silk strings controlling em

[opaque sigil]

given that fd describes others as "wound up" idk why you would say that, there's also silk all over the fuckin place, everything's probably coated with it

[stark estuary]

Yeah that too

[opaque sigil]

she probably is generating them but that's probably internal, idk why she would generate silk and then fling half of it around

[marsh ibex]

just like lifeblood

wait

what if

silkblood

[languid linden]

Silk comes out of enemies because they’re all stuffed animals

[stark estuary]

Nunoso

[opaque sigil]

based and nunosopilled

[marsh ibex]

Ehhhhhh

idk like I said prev about the old enemy thing

even then one of these is jus

[opaque sigil]

those strands were removed in the xbox trailer no?

[marsh ibex]

suspended silk

[fiery burrow]

who is fd

[opaque sigil]

forge daughter

[sinful flare]

false dnight

[marsh ibex]

Fat dumbass

[vale temple]

that's fda joker

[sinful flare]

same thing

[marsh ibex]

so is forge daughter

fda

[vale temple]

ratio

[marsh ibex]

Denied

[opaque sigil]

they're not

[marsh ibex]

I do agree with SS having more catholic/christian influences

that much is obvious with yknow

rosaries

[opaque sigil]

aesthetically sure but it's probably mostly that

something something thk was jesus, pk was god, idk

[stark estuary]

No Rad is Jesus

PK Satan

[marsh ibex]

Citadel probably is the leader of the church/religion yeah

[marsh ibex]

I guess you could say

Jesus was black?

[opaque sigil]

isn't thk like closer to what that myth was

[marsh ibex]

Rad is the devil

And the government is lying to you about the Infection?

[vale temple]

[opaque sigil]

ig a rad apologist will say rad was jesus but rad apologists say a lot of dumb shit

[stark estuary]

Yes but that wasn’t the claim because something something Rad good PK bad

[marsh ibex]

Think of it like if the governing body of a religion, such as the vatican and pope that govern Christianity, were to say “All followers will make pilgrimage to the capital and bring 2 tomatoes with them for religious enlightenment”
Don’t really agree with this though

[stark estuary]

Radiance represents oppressed minorities idk

[marsh ibex]

Pilgrimages are made to places with religious significance

[stark estuary]

PK is a white colonizer

[hard ginkgo]

Silky song

[marsh ibex]

it’s not just a thing that the pope decides

[stark estuary]

Silksong isn’t a JRPG so I don’t believe the Pope is necessarily evil or that Hornet will kill God

[marsh ibex]

Now, what happens when the bugs complete their pilgrimage and make it to the top of the citadel? They hand over the silk they were carrying, some of the silk gets stored away by the citadel, and some might be used to wrap the bugs themselves.
Don’t agree with this eirher

they already have giant stores of silk

[opal dew]

I'm going to be pope in silksong

[marsh ibex]

just look at the uhh…greymoor area

[opaque sigil]

I mean there would definitely be a better way to move that shit around too

[marsh ibex]

iirc the bg has giant stores of the stuff and silk is just found everywhere in the environment

Also relying on pilgrims for something that important seems weird

[opaque sigil]

not to mention that if that was an important part of the pilgrimage then why don't the pilgrims we see visually have silk

[marsh ibex]

hooded bugs most likely work for the citadel yes

[opaque sigil]

if the point of the pilgrimage was to carry silk around then sherma would be carrying silk

[marsh ibex]

Have already mentioned my issues with the vertical strand stuff

[stark estuary]

Sherma’s excommunicated

[opaque sigil]

k

[marsh ibex]

This makes a bit of sense, because their hoods fully cover their face, so they can’t see on their own. If they’re being controlled, though, then the hoods wouldn’t be a hinderance at all. (I understand that not all bugs see with there eyes, and some people might say “maybe the hoods are see through!” but I’d lump that in the arbitrary detail boat for now, as there are so many what-ifs that completely negate any theory for SS

this is just sketchy

don’t post copypastas here

And no, just because you made it yourself doesn’t disavow it from being something in that vein

[fiery burrow]

tldr?

[north musk]

that is NOT a copypata thank you very much.

[north musk]

nu uh

[marsh ibex]

tl;dr doesn’t belong here

[wary imp]

Joker has spoken

[marsh ibex]

You’re a new user aren’t you

[stark estuary]

Ban speedrun

[marsh ibex]

sigh

[vale temple]

you're so funny

[olive bobcat]

Mute mute mute

[wary imp]

This is gonna be interesting

[olive bobcat]

[flat remnant]

Thank you joker very cool

[wary imp]

Based mod

[flat remnant]

I've been seeing more bans lately wonder what that's about

[wary imp]

The people grow restless

But yeah it is weird

[stark estuary]

What do you mean you’ve been seeing more bans bans aren’t public

[wary imp]

Anyways I gotta go to class

[olive bobcat]

People coming and going

[flat remnant]

Bye noodles

[opaque sigil]

I mean you can watch it happen

[vale temple]

I just asked mods to give me access to audit logs and they happily agreed

[stark estuary]

Well ban usually isn’t the initial response

[opaque sigil]

if somebody and their messages just vanish after being openly transphobic or some shit you've basically watched a ban

[stark estuary]

A lot of people get muted and then presumably leave or something

Which I guess is functionally a ban

[vale temple]

actually not all bans delete messages

[flat remnant]

It's weird that's been happening more often though

[languid linden]

Couple regs got banned

[flat remnant]

Maybe I've just been more observant but in the past two weeks alone i saw 4 or 5 when before bans were a rarity

[frigid karma]

i leave for 10 minutes and someone gets banned

[vale temple]

pog

[stark prism]

wait. did someone just get obliterated?

[frigid karma]

What happened?

[stark prism]

i wasn't paying attention

[olive bobcat]

Nah some newbie got muted

[sinful flare]

it does take a bit of skill, it's a matter of hitting your pipes directly against the enemy, tho alternatively you can sticky spam
also i play demoknight so like different class smh

[languid linden]

You’re next

[flat remnant]

Spammer with copypastas, he's still here

[chilly nexus]

ello my phone died

[vale temple]

no im not
now hop on chess

[chilly nexus]

omg cat kaan and fordo

and sof

[languid linden]

Hey jacoby

[flat remnant]

Omg jacoby

[vale temple]

sorry i forgot who you are

[olive bobcat]

Hello Sof

[vale temple]

hi sarah

[marsh ibex]

no

[olive bobcat]

(It's me I'm Sarah)

[stark prism]

nope it represents smelly commies and the vessels are a representation of the US military

[sinful flare]

same vibe as "dispenser down, you're next"

[sinful flare]

omg jacoby

[stark prism]

yo what the hell why is there new mods who tf is ren

[vale temple]

don't be silly kaan that was a jojo reference

[sinful flare]

omg sarah

[vale temple]

that's sonia

[sinful flare]

tf2 ref

[flat remnant]

Val's alt

[sinful flare]

nth alt

[chilly nexus]

ren is joker no?

[stark prism]

wait who was Val agian?

[vale temple]

[limpid nebula]

💀

[chilly nexus]

zal's alt

[stark prism]

is that like a name that Zal uses occaasionaly

[sinful flare]

cool mod obsessed with yakuza and anime

[chilly nexus]

val is quite cool ye

[limpid nebula]

Indeed

[frigid karma]

Tc playtester that comes here often

[stark prism]

yeah i remeber uh huh yes exactly (no i don't)

[stark prism]

no wait that was Craig

[sinful flare]

idk coolness for me depends if you have played funny games with me or not

[stark prism]

Greg, whateva