#sk-discussion
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I refuse
they got that sweet crystal energy
Magic technology is still technology
bold of you to assume I pay attention to the background
How many patents did the PK have
In conclusion
Window sadly passed away after sending this message, and we never got to hear his conclusion
Pharloom wanted to show off how their royal caste have sleeper builds to carry a bronze cage
wait how is hornet gonna get out of pharloom she destroyed the bridge
the back door
By…. Flying over it
Grappling over it is probably within her ability
With her silk like Spider-Man
I choose not to believe this because I like conflict
hornet in the final silksong custcene
It’s not like TK couldn’t leave, it just chose to stay. Hornet can do the same. Plus if she leaves without solving shit more caste members could just come after her
Pharloom economy is destroyed and there’s societal collapse because they blew up their only bridge
but actually, it would be a cool subversion to have hornet reach the bride after ascending the citadel and being like damn, guess i gotts stay
true, but tbf we don't really know if she has the means to just up and leave
like TK knew the way in and out of the kingdom after arriving, hornet is in an entirely new place
Hornet is appointed head of economic development to help diversify Pharloom's economy
This is how the rust belt happened, a rookie mistake
I mean she doesn’t initially but I don’t think it would be a problem for her to theoretically be able to leave and just choose not to
I kind of prefer that actually
There’s only so much you can do with a protagonist whose goal is to just go away, at some point hornet has to start caring about what’s happening here
And one way to show that is by her choosing to stay
Hornet discovers the power of friendship
“No I have to save lace from the curse….”
the bride is lace
yes but like
does she just not give a shit about hallownest anymore, her goal was protecting it, even if they choose to go with dnm and Rad is gone i feel she woukd still protect it
and yuh, I don't mean she spends the whole game wanting to go home, just that her initial want to go home leads her to the broken bridge, then she stays
tell me that wouldn't be dope
In pretty much all of the endings things are stable for a while and being away temporarily wouldn’t be a big problem
my little pony
I would assume they address that in multiple endings
she returns, she stays, it depends on the choices you male
male
Queen of pharloom ending
male
queen of nothing ending, destroy pharloom
with her void powers obviously
i will stab you
🏃
is nice
and phar as in far
possibility of Hornet ascending on some HB potential and becoming a giant monster spider 
nonexistent
200% will happen
but fr, I really hope she just stays hornet in every ending
SL was stupid idc


i forgot
aloumorg
hornet needs a ranged crest
in this essay I will
hi
oh right
its you
puppet mecha
man
its sexyman not aloumorg
so true lily
you jinxed it
all of pharloom can be moved with string music 
ok howl
big screenshot
there I'll save ur darkmode eyes
burning grotto when
but do the reverse where the area change opens up new paths vs blocks paths
fr otherwise it was such a nice idea
but also, ppl should play sekiro
Literally so true
they do area changes so well and so big that you don't even notice it
except you do
I hope the Forest of Bones starts to burn away at Moss Grotto and it leads to a more difficult area with new parts opened
the enemy variants are just everything is on fire
flooded grotto ftw
ew underwater areas in my metroidvanina?
Depending on what route you take Moss Grotto just gets decimated by a different area 
either that or we have another sewer area
that would actually be pretty cool for repeat playthroughs
or silksoul mode will have different area changes so it will really feel like a different mode like how they were saying
it would have to amp up the difficulty tho
Silksoul mode has replaced Moss Grotto
just locking in one or the other for a new mode feels limiting
just slap double damage on everything and you'll be fine
yw
sweet dreams necro
gwj
gn necro
sof 
I gotta be here every month when it happens
but when they announced Silk Soul they didnt have a high level concept of what it is

uhuh
exposed
anyway, when they were talking about the game before its release
lol
I mean I can see that
they were extremely vague on it, just that it would have more changes than steel soul
one guy asked them "so hows the death system going to be?"
and their response was "oh trust me we already have plans laid out, well tell more once the game's release is close :)"
they had probably mapped it out but had yet to put any dev time into it

I never said I don't trust TC
then after that, both Ari and William hudled and said "uhhh, how are we going to the death system"
Tc Trustees in chat
weird headcanons there taco
they smiled and said that they already have a death system in place but theyre keeping it a secret for now
yeah yeah
i think?
then after the guy left they discussed with each other, and said "Oh yeah, we dont have a death system yet"
which will end up with the shade system
I think they said that they had the animation where the mask falls down, so they iterated off of that to get the shade
yeah yeah
something like they have an animation is already done
just that, what happens afterwards is the one they made an excuse of because other than the animation, the system itself isnt made yet
a lot of HK development did feel like it was built around circumstance
smh TC should've put more thought into it
corpse runs are trash for metroidvaninas
maybe that's why they're communicating way less, so they don't have to promise as much
corpse run is actually one of the more commonly criticized points in HK
even Game Makers Toolkit said he didnt like the death system
we just talked about this like last week
and thats after he posted that Nintendo should stop being fucking cowards and give the IP to Team Cherry for a try
i did not 🥴
good
in a genre all about exploration having to go the exact same path again to get your stuff instead of just exploring is trash
also balancing wise none of it matters kinda
you can have the convo
because midway youll be swimming with money you cant even use
I'm going to bed
TC said just don't give their money back to solve this issue
just stop dying
true
however
no 
also if the game had alt routes to avoid every spot you die at, then thats just discount roguelite. the map will be more spaghetti than the code
it was Metroid i think
he said they should try giving TC a try (impossible ofc but iirc it was during the time they lent the Zelda IP to the guys who created Crypt of the Necrodancer)
no no its more of to TRY their hands on the Metroidvania IP
what
Wait what nintendo was annoyed at tc
not the categorization lmao
no no Mark Brown (the guy who owns Game Makers Toolkit, the youtube channel)
Said "GIVE THE METROID IP TO TEAM CHERRY YOU COWARDS" half jokingly on his twitter way back then
what im saying is he really likes the game and even covers and uses it an example often, but despite liking it one of his disliked part is the death system
saying it hampers exploration as it psychologically pushes you to the same area to retrieve your geos instead of incentivizing going another route
Ah
I like mark brown
Is there any controversy with him I don’t wanna sound all controversial
Yea i kinda get that
Go retrieve your shade or else you lose all your money and your soul meter
Even if you died twice you still don't have your soul meter
51 seconds · Clipped by Joven · Original video "The World Design of Hollow Knight | Boss Keys" by Game Maker's Toolkit
In DS/ER it's not as bad since you only lose your money
i didnt mind it in DS too much because while its open, its not THAT open
its still semi linear, so you pushing through an area is given because it feels you are meant to go through that section anyway
HK is so open and therse a lot of optional stuff, that the corpse run does impact it
Me walking back into Witching Hour two hours after I just got off:
no not really hes pretty clean so far lmao
like some people can agree or disagree with his content
but its not like a case similar to Joseph Anderson where its very polarizing
Nice he actually helped push me into my passion of game design
it helps that Anderson is more of a critic person and GMTK is more of just a "heres what makes x game successful on this part facet of the game"
But do you think they're gonna do that again in silksong? With how the silk meter appears broken in some screenshots we saw
i hope they dont lol
Yeah
i feel like the soulsborne...ring series does corpse runs good because most of the time when you die, it'll be in the way to somewhere you're trying to go to, and also you have the added benefit of just running through sjit since your bloodstain bloodechoes whatever don't fight back
or blood echoes do sometimes ig
again im excited for SS but since this is just their 2nd game, we dont know if theyre gonna take some things or not
afaik when asked about the boss runback Ari replied "oh well its part of the challenge" which a lot of people disagrees if youve seen this convo go already lol
it'll be in the way to somewhere you're trying to go to
yup in DS its mostly like a soft markers saying "this is the personal best you got so far, now try to reach it again"
in HK its like "uhh should i drop down again in that pit filled with a killer centipede or should i just segwa- eh im here anyway
also what is the name for the series now
is it still just soulsborne
Eldensoulsborne
Soulslike?
Eldensoulsbornlike
soulsdenborne
Eldensoulsbornecore
Eldensoulsbornlikecore
that's more of a genre at this point, but ig it still fits
Soulslike unless you mean Fromsoft's then I believe it is still labeled as soulslike by most people
Ah alr
Why are people unironically gatekeeping genre names
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i like how people proceeds to start a war about how HK is a soulslike
based as fuck
Um akshually Taco
It is a platformer like Celeste because it has platforming sections like path of pain

TRUE
Thanke
Every game is a platformer game
No other game shall be labeled as a soulslike because Dark Souls is so perfect and epic that if you label your game as a souls like you are comparing my perfect game I play 24/7 on my mom's basement to your hot garbage for weenie huts Jr

What about games where you can’t jump
2027
2072
9 of december 12 PM
Oh yeah the goat comin up on my playlist
Platformer games don’t need jumping
But what about games you don’t move in
gl with THE silksong dlc
Is melatonin a platformer
Name one
Luffy
Getting over it
If you've got time to talk you've got time to play VA-11 HALL-A 
I explode you
It is a platformer game you just haven't figured it out yet
nOOOoooOOo
uhm ackshyally
I am not exactly home
1
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-zh4Omi3jE obligatory
After playing through Furi for the n-th time, and listening through the soundtrack for the 3n-th time, it's obvious the in game versions of the tracks differ from the soundtrack versions (most likely due to the time constraints). So as such, I've decided to rip the complete arranged versions of the songs one by one. Enjoy!
Anticipation: 0:00
Ph...
So I could play without figuring it out
Furi OST so good
Tacco best new game in the past year?
Im not ttaco but i feel like objectively it has to be totk
Solid choice
When did elden ring come out?
However can it out pizza the tower
"A CRACK IN THE SHELL. BUT CAN YOU FIND IT TWICE?"
Over a year ago I think
N1RV Ann-A gonna come out to sweep all the other games under the rug
manor lord sweep tbh
Manor Lords is a strategy game that allows you to experience the life of a medieval lord. Grow your starting village into a bustling city, manage resources and production chains, and expand your lands through conquest.Inspired by the art and architecture of late 14th century Franconia, Manor Lords prioritizes historical accuracy wherever possibl...
2023
solo dev too
its so fucking good
I’ll buy it for you
my fav part is that theres actual rts style army gameplay
If you can answer one riddle
instead of just like 20 guys defending your lawn
I have too many games at the moment to accept gifts
I can barely find time for the ones I have
Manor Lords is a medieval strategy game that combines deep, organic, and realistic city building with large-scale, tactical battles. This video features an early look at battle features within the game.
Remember: The game is a work in progress and is subject to change.
WISHLIST ON STEAM: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1363080/Manor_Lords/...
again for a one man project its fucking impressive
played the demo too and even the effects goes hard
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783921751004151858/1026806448744833054/2022-10-04_18-41-20.mp4
Oh that’s a big map
yeah theres going to be other lords in your realm which you can engage in diplomacy and shit
its supposedly realeasing soon right
within the end of this year iirc
2023?
The only rts game I’ve played before is lego ninjago battles
yeah 2023
whoa damn
the only lego game i played is the fucking racing game 🥴
I’ve heard it’s actually a really good kart racer
i liked it yeah
thats alot of time
I watched Vargskelethor Joel play it
Jonny the poggy recommended an rts game to me I believe
It’s still in my wishlist atm
the art is looking good too, this is going to be for the tech tree
Oh that’s really neat
OH WAIT HE DID
i must find it
Brick by br- Wait.
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OMG HE DID
It was him vs Rocket Racer!
FUCK THIS ROCKET RACER CUNT
we never beat the game because he keeps cheating
like hed just warp randomly if you go ahead too much
I think that was basically Joel’s whole vibe against Rocket Racer
Joel’s playthrough of this and lego island are really good
I love a nice Joel stream
Lego hobbit is the best lego game frfr
Then Lego killed him
By never releasing a third lego racer game
Wait whatever happened to that lego platform fighter…
Mmm
Imo pirates of the caribbean is better
Lots of fun missions
Lego star wars obviously is also incredible
Hell yeah
And also lego jurassic is pretty good
Mostly because its funny seeing the lego character saying the actual movie quotes
Those were the classics
It got better
I used to love playing the Lego games when I was little
There used to be some old ass game consoles with lego star wars playing in the waiting rooms for like dentist offices
Sameee
It felt a lot more mcu??
I liked lego marvel one but i did not like the web slinging
Compared to the insomniac games or even fortnite its very limited
Like the first lego marvel had the fantastic four and the x-men
any spiderman controls are gonna be ass unless it's a spiderman game
When we were young me and my brother would play tag in lego hobbit
Fortnite web swinging was better
Pre endgame or post endgame?
Pre
Sounds like a good thing then
Just like with the roster
The first lego marvel felt more like it was taking directly from the comics
Like it had Doctor Doom as a central character
And Galactus
The mcu was extremely solid
they'll get mcuified soon
True
seriously tho i wish Silksong will have one of these
But ig it doesnt work as well as source material than comics do
But tbf there hasn’t been a good live action doctor doom
At this point i hate that
So even if the mcu does a bad job it’s no loss
The mcu used to feel so different
MF DOOM\
NOOO TAKE HIM AWAY
I would be interested in a lego marvel dc crossover game
the dr dooms ride scarred me
Here's my bets for the MCU Fantastic 4 movie
Wtf does tf2 have to do with doom 😭
the commentator sounds like MF Doom
I think they’ll do the best Mr and Mrs. Fantastic
- Dwayne Johnson is The Thing
- Their origin has something to do with Tony Stark in the past
- Someone makes a Stretch Armstrong joke
- Bonus: Tony Stark makes the Stretch Armstrong joke
They already cast The Thing
Who is it
Yo not to spoil but tony stark is dead
The mcu died with him
Except for gotg and spiderman but that doesnt count because it had already started before endgame
i hate that the tony stark part is probably painfully accurate (the relation)
Yeah I know, hence "in the past"
Just logged in when i read this i thought you were talking about john carpenter's the thing
The thing is now canon in the mcu

The rock one or the alien
The MCU died with Toenail Stork
Thats what iim saying
the secret of the scrulls is that they're actually amogus who snuck into the MCU during the fortnite collab
Crazy?
Daveed Diggs is the name that’s getting tossed around but I don’t think its been confirmed definitively
I’m unfamiliar with him
I hate skrylls
Skrillex
yeah skrillex music sucks
In far from home nick furi literally acted JUST LIKE nike fury for the whole movie but apparntly he was a skull
Don’t snail Hyah they were going off my joke
Toby Stitch was what held the whole thing together
And captain murica
Remember that time you were blinking
unironically the whole young avengers build up just isn't working
I like peter pork
Actually Nick Fury is a skrull in far from home I forgot
pter prker
Imo peter parker should be the entire avengers
he doesn't count imo
Peter prker, sam, and wintee soldy can be the new avengers
Peewee Parking
I don’t see how they piece together
They just kind of keep popping up
irrc the MCU has been building up to a new avengers with sam, peter, ms marvel and a few others or something idk i haven't watched the mcu in a while
Well you see they're like the old Avengers but younger, so naturally they'll bond over how they're like the old Avengers
Falcon
falcon
with zero connection
Falcoon and winter somder was pretty good
The villin sucked tho
Bro multiverse of mood was so BAD
Aka "Wheels"
I didn't mind Doc Wacky and the Mom of Madness
That and spinder man 3 are the only good ones since endgame if i rc
it'd have been better if they didn't take an axe to wanda
Bru this was the secondary protagonist:
Multiverse of madening SO FUCKI NO STINKY
Im too tired for this shit
I like the journey Wanda’s character goes through to someone who only watched the movies
Wanda was done dirty by Wandavision
i'mma be real with you chief i cannot name a good thing about nwh that isn't related to willem dafoe in some way shape or form
They set her up to be the villain (or at least an antihero) and then they tried to sympathize with her by adding some new character
Yeah but then you at least understand the magic and the book
I didnt watch wandavision so seeing her go from the really well made and good hearted character from pre endgame, and straight into this huge scale evil asf witch was very strange
the TV shows also being basically required for movies also just isn't my thing
It was like seeing ralph in wreck it ralph vs ralph breaks the internet
I only watched Loki and Moon Knight out of the shows
I really enjoyed wandavision I’d reccomend
I dunno much about dafoe, or frankly much of the spider-man movies, but I just think this image is funny
And I’m not a fan of Marvel
Moon Knight was good
I thought it was fun :)
Dafoees great
I thought moon knight was pretty good
watch the lighthouse
I enjoyed it
I think a big part of it was that it's its own thing
Dafoe’s green goblin still remains the best spiderman villian ever
I lost interest after the first episode
Wrong sorry loki only good marvel series 
Ok, I’m looking at this image, now what?
Dr outro is pretty cool too
the only mcu show i was really interested in was loki and that was because i liked reading loki: agent of asguard as a kid and i thought they would do something similar
I thought it was really interesting, didn’t feel cookie cutter marvel
What if and wandavision are good too
You gotta look at the MCU like you look at an Adam Sandler movie
I liked Loki too because it was well shot
Ive heard low key is good
This is why I loved wandavision
At least new MCU
Wandavision was not what I was expecting
The lighting was always really good
I've been putting off watching it, I liked Loki as a character but a whole series seems ehhh
I don’t really like marvel
But i HATE everytthing about the concept of loki
99% of the time they're not gonna be good movies, but in the scope of the MCU how are they
Yeah
Some office style corporation inventing canon events or sum shit?? Thats wack asf
It is
Yeah I understand and the confusing thing is ||it doesn’t even connect with the rest of marvel at all even though it tries to||
one thing that pisses me off about the mcu is how loki, MoM, and quantumania all seem to have different takes on the multiverse
Plus how they downplay the entire infinity saga for a gag pisses me off
GotG 3 is by far the best MCU movie post-Endgame
Whoever thought of this gag isnt funny and i hate them
I love how what if got so ||meta||
Tbf they do that in Endgame
The way they've been handling the stones in the multiverse is so odd
Like when ||ultron got out|| (WHAT IF SPOILERS)
Did you watch endgame?
can we bring back more indie movie makers instead of marvels dominating half the industry with only 1 good film among the sea of death
That flipped the series
For some reason I keep seeing “GotG” and thinking “clearly that stands for God of War, because I know how acronyms work”
Where they have Thor drunkenly describe the Ether
Barbenheimer gonna sweep
In the comics thanos with the stones gets his spine ripped out instantly
But the fact everything is going fucky wucky does not connect with any other shows
“Well first off it’s not a stone its a slime!”
no one liked dark world so it's ok
True
Doesn’t thanos collect the stones in the comics because he’s a simp for the literal grim reaper
that got retconned (kinda?). comics are very inconsistent so the power level of the stones fluctuates between top tier to solo the top tier very often
Bru idk i dont read conids i just saw this
She doesn't even want him by the end lol
I like that Dark World and Love&Thunder both adapt good comics into bad movies
love and thunder was just disappointing
Tbh I semi-unironically think they shoulda gone with that or something similar in Infinity War
Love and thunder was the thor equivalent of shrek 3
I fail to see how this changes the importance and power of infinity stones that were told about for the entire mcu up to that point
omg i read godbomb before watching love and thunder so the movie was especially bad for me
They just made a movie where Gorr was right
Gabrle Ultarklil
I finished act 2 today and I loved it!
Love and Thunder sucked ass but it had some cool visuals from time to time
Buddy got rolled
Like this fucking rules
Haven’t played ultrakill but I want to
Are you kidding lmao this movie started all the jokes about bad marvel cgi
And the opening with Gorr and his god was pretty good
He made them less serious, especially since that scene where they retrieve the ether turns into Asgardians calling rocket a rabbit while chasing him
the biggest problem in love and thunder is that they used gorr, one of the most r-rated, brutal, and complex villains in comics who's mere storyline challenges the concept of religion and faith and tried to put him a a colorful, fun for the whole family movie
Nah nah it was def a mixed bag
||I liked the whole monochrome end fight but I just couldn't get over why his lightning was visualized as flames around his axe it was so weird to me||
The movie was ass but it had a couple well made scenes
His argument falls apart in 0.2 picoseconds when you double the universe’s resources or something else, or like, something to make people less selfish idk, if you have literally infinite power murdering literally half the universe seems a bit overkill
Love and thunder is still the only movie ive ever fallen asleep in theators to
christian bale carried thor 4
Well he was the darkest parts of the movie, their failure was making Gorr 100% in the right about gods
The double-standard for nude thor though 🗿
The endgame thanos set up to be very different than the infinity war thanos
You can’t make a movie about Gorr where Thor has no counter to his ideology
What did the 3 people that watched it think of she-hulk
You should I don’t like shooters but I loved it
Plus his whole argument makes ZERO SENSE AT ALL ANYWAYS, IF THERES LESS PEOPLE THERE WILL BE LESS PEOPLE TO PRODUCE FOOD SO THE SUPPLY OF FOOD WILL GO DOWN PROPORTIONALLY TO THE POPULATION SIZE
Robots 🫀
IF HE REALLY WANTED TO HELP, HE HAS THE INFINITY STONES HE CAN DO ANYTHING
He’s the mad titan
Waa waa waa I want my daughter back
The dumbass fuckwad titan
honestly i was exited for gorr to meet thor post endgame bc thor was in a rough patch of depression and self hated and blaming himself in endgame still sore after the failure to defeat thanos and prevent the snap. gorr would play into this state of mind so well but nope, thor just gets better off screen WHAIIII
Why did we have to lose an interesting character for a child
Vampire robots
Can we agree that thor ragnorack or however you spell it is one of the best mcu movies
they don't call him mad for no reason
Christian Bale too powerful for Love and Thunder
I think having him literally try and simp for death is more fitting for the Mad Titan than being treated as Tragic Space Aristotle
He was awesome as that
Floor: Rag n' Sock was really good yeah
But then people wouldn’t connect with him as well
Inf war thanos was such a cool and interesting villian
Thanos is just like me fr!
People love Thanos because they can understand his logic
Why couldn’t thanos wish for everyone to have food and shelter
They like him like Walter White
Because hes stupid
Yeah
He already committed to the halving thing
Yo yo if yall had 3 wishes be honest what you wishing for
Oops, monkey’s paw, everybody dies
I mean he likes women and I like women there's a lot in common there
bc he thought the problem was overpopulation, doubling the resources doesn't fix that
You like Jojo though???
Ability to ressurect, magic, no more poverty/climate change
But by adding more space you deal with it
Yeah I never said I don't like men too
- All sand smells really good.
- Sand attracts wasps.
- It’s impossible to wash off sand
I love dealing 5 damage to a random enemy 5 times for 3 energy 🫀
Respectable
the ability to choose when i die, shapeshifting, and and a pocket dimention next question
I’m scared of you
Ability to shapeshift and I'll think about the other two
Be thankful I have never met a genie
Top is dumb, 2nd is too broad, 3rd is good in concept but seems potentially limiting to free will depending on how its done, be a bit more specific with that one
i want a pocket dimetion so bad it's so cool
Love the monkey paw avoidance on the first one but watch out for second
Yo we the same
get your dumb monkey paw away from my genie
Top one is due to experience with loss 🥲
Oops traumadumping
- A bagel
- Another bagel
- Create a giant, floating, disembodied hand that seeks a random victim every day and attempts to crush them
What if your genie is a monkey
The fuck?
I better not see any hands
here's the thing, i actually planned for this. my shapeshifting would be i have to get a picture of who i want to shapeshift as and eat it. it's so oddly specific there's no way for the genie to fuck it up.
Nah gimme actual wishes and i’ll find issues with them
Finn the Human: After chasing the Lich through the portal, Finn and Jake meet a wishmaster named Prismo. / Jake the Dog: Jake and Prismo watch from the portal as the Ice King's crown makes Finn more and more powerful.
Lmfao
Attitudes like that are how you get crushed by The Hand smh
you have no idea how often i overthink my three wishes and stuff like that
ok but prismo says his wishes work like a monkey paw
but nothing happened when Jake wished for a sandwich
which is it??????
Prismo didn't give him the sandwich tho
the pocket dimention also has specific way to work it so that the genie can't take any creative liberties but like, i don't wanna type man
He made Jake the sandwich
Bru ima be totally honest i’d wish for money, power, and to forget how i got it so that i wouldnt spend the rest of my days second guessing and regretting my wishes
i personally would wish for more genies
I wanna be the type of guy who'd wish for a sandwich but I know I'm not
I would really have to think about half of my wishes but shape-shifting is a must
If you had a shit ton of money you could buy a lot of sandwhiches
Frankly Jake wishing for that sandwich perfectly aligns with his philosophy and I think I understand the logic behind it
aluo
- Make it thus my wishes perfectly conform to the intentions of the wish with no room for comical loopholes that actually lead to more suffering
- Solve world hunger
- Make no more murders happen
If you get anything you want the moment you want it, what's the point of livin'
Sof
anyways gn chat I’ve already mentioned my past anxieties so that’s enough for today
2 is too broad and 3 makes everyone unkillable in a bad way
insert comical twist on first wish
3 makes everyone the kind of unkillable that makes them suffer though the heat death
Im thinking of an issue with the second one, but for the third one if a person couldnt die to the hand of another, that person could do unspeakable things without being totally stopped. They might not be able to kill someone but they can torture a person to the point of far beyond death, they could literally destroy their heart but because murder doesnt exist it wouldnt kill the person
Depends on your definition of murder
a genie would pick the definition that causes the most pain and i think surviving till the heat death is quite painful
Well we don’t know what the heat death of the universe will be like exactly
Well erm sweaty that would imply a comical loophole that makes things worse which violates my first wish??? Smh my head???
It could just be everyone’s atoms getting ripped apart instantly
For the second one it is quite broad, like how exactly do we stop hunger? Its a natural phenomenon that occurs in the body.. maybe you dont feel the sensation of being hungry? But that exists as a survival feedback mechanism to ensure we dont starve
well we gonna find out (in like a kabillion years)
Do you think the sole cause of death is murder
Its not a loophole its exactly what you wanted
No human can be murdered by a human
no but the genie will want to grant the wish in the most painful way possible which i think is with the immortality
No, we know exactly what it is, it’s super boring stagnation
And it isn’t like, a specific event in time, it’s just a point after which basically nothing happens
Its pointless to imagine so we shouldnt
The intention of the wish is to make people like fuckin Dahmer and shit not do that, so, no, it isn’t exactly what I wanted. Murder as in Fucked Up Murder. If the genie bothered to listen to my first wish they’d know that 
First of all you didnt mention that in your message, second a horrible person can still torture someone to beyond death and worse because they wouldnt even be able to die to it
and you say only no fucked up murder? So death in wars is still possible?
yeah heat death is just the universe returning to molecule mush like it was before the big bang
Perfectionists I swear
Thats the point of the game
Looks like i win >:)
BRO THIS IS GENIE SHIT SCREWING UP THE WISH IS THE NAME OF THE GAME
Every wish has an issue
Alright, fuck it, I’m proposing my first set of wishes >:/
Well what if the genie didn’t do that? Consider that sweaty?
Thats the whole gaaame
Well it’s a bad game if I’m not the one winning, only I’m allowed to win 
but, that's the genie's whole thing. it's like going "well what if the werewolf just didn't transform" or "what if the vampire didn't need blood"
I would be a good genie
“Fate is not a cage except for those who fear it. A true ruler is the Wielder of Names. By names she cuts the world as she pleases, and she cuts herself into greater forms still. She is not shaped by the world, but instead becomes the Shaper. There’s work to be done. What shape will you choose, hm? Will you choose to be a king? Or will you choose to remain as you are? Peasant!”
the speech goes hard but what does that have to do with the genie
Christ dude what are you typing
It should be evident. The genie should not be bound by things such as “nature” or “fate.”
All I have left to say is, Royalty issue.
so you're going to ask the genie not to mess up your wishes?
Just dont wish for anything
Fine, three bagels.
I wish for 3 beans
There are definite issues with this
Want me to go into them or can you just take my word for it and let me sleep
the main ingrident is ricin
that's what the genie would tell you as he adds 1 cup of ricin into the batter
It doesn’t matter the actual nature or qualities of the bagel, I will eat them, I will enjoy them, and I will be fine. A snack is a continuous eating motion.
Doesnt matter
They can be the best tasting bagels ever
Wish is flawed by concept
Let me ask, where do the bagels come from
Where do any of wishes come from?
Where do the bagels come from in your wish criger
you get the ricin poison beans
Nice
A source of high quality
Are they stolen?
See this is why I wished for bad things
Stealing is wrong cringer
Are they materialized?
That would break the laws of science cringer
you steal the poisoned bagel that was meant to be used in a political assassination
WHERE DO THE BAGELS COME FROM CRINGER
does making any wish not already do that
I wished for two bagels and a giant, disembodied hand that sought a random victim everyday to crush but that was rejected 
this is a genie we talking about
Thats why most wishes asking for a physical object dont work
Still cant create or destroy matter
bro it's magic
Could have incomprehensible effects
wait then what exactly can you wish for
there is no scientific explaination it's magic
My wishes were logically sound
“Those that lack the ability to choose their own fate will be cut regardless.”
I only changed things that already existed
Luffy your wishes are a threat to humanity and aren't valid
i asked for superpowers but yeah that works too
That could be possible
Compared to something absurd like the materialization of a bagel
YO IT'S TOAST APPROVED I'M GETTING MY POCKET DIMENTION WOOOOOOOOOO
Lemme check if that breaks any laws of physics

what super power could you have that wouldn't break some law of physics
or like
biology
Birds fly
I dunno what’s so evil about sand that smells good😔
You can too
i wished for the ability to choose when i die, the ability to shapeshift into anything or anyone who's photo i ate, and a pocket dimention.
Yeah but not like a superhero
congrats on your very weak bones
They have hollow bones
Planes fly
A pocket dimension, nay, the very concept of a genie granting wishes, is logistically sound, but materialized bagels in the same setting is not? I call chicanery, absolute miscarriage of justice smh
A genie can do anything (inside the laws of physics)
Just salty
Every wish is fundamentally flawed like that but its more fun to pick apart wishes based on concept, like with world peace
no a genie can straight up do anything regardless of physics. it's a genie. it's magic
Give me my goddamn bagels you fuck
JUST GO TO A BAKERY MAN
Wish for evil bagels
THIS IS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE AT THIS POINT
blows up bagels with mind
Wish to be the owner of the hk server
IT'S A FUCKING BAGEL
Reconstitutes bagels with mind
EXACTLY, IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS HARD FOR A GENIE TO GIVE ME BAGELS
dissolves bagel into thin air
Curse upon your bloodline
Provide how the bagel got there
bagels are like bread but with less bread bc theres a whole in the middle
A GENIE IS A REALITY WARPING BEING CAPABLE OF ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE AND YOU ASK FOR A BAGEL
Yes.
well
if you wished for reality warping you are your own genie
I gotta stop starting these dumbass convos
am i not wrong
the genie is going to poison your bagel i don't want you to die man
too much power for one man so nah
What if its a female genie
i ask for the same wishes
Yes but you said too much power for one man
If anyone’s stealing anything it’s the genie, they’re the one providing me the bagels, I merely requested them, I didn’t specify anything about how I wanted them acquired, any code, legal or moral, broken lies upon the genie for responsibility, not me.
i am NOT reading allat
reality warping is, my wishes are not
Inhales it
snorts the bagel
Have you ever consumed illegal substances
Im not a federal agent
How short are people’s attention span these days? At this point I doubt the genie has any real abilities, since it can’t give me a FUCKING BAGEL, goddam what has this economy come to?
Fed post!!
puts bagel air in can
I HAVE FEDERAL AGENTS
AT MY DOORSTEP
Not reading allat either
Weve finally caught up to you
It is TWO FUCKING SENTENCES
Now do that but more
it can give you a bagel but i'm just asking why a bagel opposed to ANYTHING YOU DESIRE
Touch the sky
It’s not everyday you get a bagel from a genie, can’t waste an opportunity like that
Its not everyday
Because impossible
Besides i never said anything about a genie
I just said to give me wishes and i would point out how they were flawed
i am leaving this server
we did all that genie shit and you just go "nuh uh"
I cant lose
i will crash my plane into the pacific ocean
I am a federal agent
hi a federal agent
Bro thinks im watching a 22 fucking second video holy
tired
its almost 3:30 am
slep wthr
Its almost 3:30 am
it is 3:22 pm
mnbbggffcddsxcfgggg
polar ends of the world fr
Is 22 seconds unironically too long for you
I got like 5 in then got bored
AAAAAAAAA

Im gonna lose it
Funny cat insane gif
i got 11 more cat insane gifs but ive been muted for sending them all before so i probably shouldnt dump them again
Silksong Discussion
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that off topic aint stopping us
Did you write that specifically because you know silksong is releasing soon 
We had this already, but it was posted by Benji and I wanted to repost it so I could make edits myself sooner; but also I made the title markdown and large, instead of just bold
easier on the eyes
oh my god this could mean silksong soon
sof i literally just said that wtf 
me too
silksoon
No fucking way!!! Silksong release tomorrow
Simo I think you meant to say “We insist you propagate fake screenshots and illegitimate information! Do not label them.”
Silksong coming out rn guys
Send me $10 AUD for Silksong!!!!!!!!1!!!1!1!!@
(real)
(Super real)
Silksong must be coming out super soon! 
It is
so true lily
Lily
silksong
i can tell about our future self play silksong like we play hollow knight usually
simo in chat, how is that real
Good morning gamers
It isn’t
This is all a hallucination
so true ismoil
The accident was 10 years ago.... you need to forgive yourself arar
ballin
ror2ers ion surge or flamethrower
ion surge if you're a pussy
Hope everyone has their Pennywise cosplay ready for tomorrow
hello
Why?
Should I ask?
Hi frosty
Xbox indie showcase thing
Don't count on it
I will blindly put all my faith in this
Surely it will pay off
Everyone here, every time
Yeah for sure
I just feel like there’s something different about this time
hi scarfy
I will find the developers of silk song if it’s not released soon
Hey frosty
hi
Please don’t threaten team Cherry they are just trying to make the best possible game they can
Oh frosty it's 2 am but i took a nap from 6 - 8 so it evens out
Makes sense
I’m kinda stupid cause I will be watching for silk song news
No it’s not stupid
It’s not probable that we’ll get something but it’s nice to have hope
Could be
ye and it's been a while since we've had plausible fun so let's party 
live in approx 31 hours
Dammit it’s 2 am where I am
Probably can’t watch it
Eh I’ll google if there was any after
Hype so dead i didn't even know there was an indie showcase
there was an event?
Soon
IT WILL HAPPEN
There will be news
the two games I want to see are Ena BBQ and Rift of the necromancer
Fair
Sof
cat
Stray 2 
boy
That would be great
sof
If Stary 2 is there, I hope it's a game thats bigger
Stary 2
I know it's meant to be a short experience, but I want more
I bet Stray 2 will be 10x better than midsong
If there’s no silk song I will jump out a window
Goddamnit autocorrect
Don’t
Silkmid
Will that even exist?
Stray 2 will definitely exist
base b2w2?
yeah
so is it like patching a rom
no, I think it modifies the save
Stray 2 is a crossover with hk and the radiance will fight the cat
Vote now to protest against pokemon taking over ss-discussion
hop on pokemon
Cat
Do I need like a virtual console
I do not want to see another midmon discussion ong
so true bestie!
Hello
Wrong cat but hi how are you
you need to learn an entire programming language and 900+ pokemon movesets and stats
Ah, it's like rain world
just download an emulator
Cat falls down hole into cyberpunk robot civilization to freedom and also this annoying robot is there
I don't see the problem
That's the plot of stray yes, but they're proposing a sequel, and I'm asking what the plot of said sequel would be
Cat, it's late
No need to be sorry
For a sequel they should introduce multiplayer with multiple of them falling down to the slums
Plot-wise maybe have another different robot civilization do something
There's no major conflict there though anymore
Na the cat ascends and becomes a multi universe god capable of destroying every living thing
Cat go to space, stray cat in space
There are other cities methinks
is there chance for mythicals and shit to hatch from eggs
and are we randomizing trainers
did you get it to work
yeah but you can blacklist them
no im too lazy rn

damn I want a lvl 5 regi to explosion every single match
I want this
was the
emoji just added?
Let's go under the sea methinks
Cats and water mix methinks
Not to long ago, yes
They could probably introduce a new threat as an excuse plot
omg cat no way
Eh it's been done by better people
Every time something new happens to hk I think it means ss is about to release
peak
It'd be fun to do it though
new gen 10 box legendary with 200 atk and spe
Doc ock but sof
fun space adventure!
song
https://youtu.be/97xfV6yXcrk
programs and stuff
flipaclip
ipad
my finger!
10 fps
NOT A ANIMATION MEME! 👍
Sof Off
iron cat
idk future meowth
i think silksong should add an easy mode
No
TRUEEEEE
i think you should get good
no it shouldnt, we should respect the artistic vision of the developers, if they wanna make a challenging game then let them
not every game has to be for everyone
Silksong should have a super difficult mode where everything does double damage and is more aggressive
Silksong should have a mode
Hi Ttacco
Historical recreation
nice
reeves
Silksong should a story mode where all fights are piss easy
Nice Sof, Sof
Yeah but what if i wanna experience the rest of the game? the game is more than just about difficulty, what if i wanna experience the story, music, environments etc but i just dont have enough time for myself? honestly i wouldnt mind cheating at this point because except for the boss fights, im really enjoying the game until i hit the wall
Do you guys think Silksong should have an i-frame dash, or an i-frame dash that can be unlocked in endgame?
I wan iframes
Is he talking to himself?
@grand ferry ill check again later to see if i can figure anything else
i cant believe the only thing holding me back from making an egglocke save is that i cant make the window bigger
Ttaco inner monologue
Its your choice if you wanna cheat, im not gonna stop you. Im just saying it robs you off the intended experience but you do you. That being said i still stand by the point devs shouldnt be forced to add difficulty sliders
Silksong should have a i frame dodgeroll
ill try it out soon (and im not super savvy at this shit)
Mate forgot the schizophrenia meds
No where everything is a primal aspic
Most sane hollow knight fan
YESSS
Ok fair enough, but i dont really care about the "intended experience" as everyone has to measure that on their own, whats the point if you cant even enjoy it in the first place? But wtv, im gonna mod it to make it easier as long as i enjoy the game in return
PS also im not forcing the devs to add it, but its still a bummer that they cant
Actually no, that's not hard enough
I would rather have an i-frame unlock in endgame, that way it feels more rewarding, kinda like hk
