#archived-modding-help
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The very first one
is it the "easier downpatch to 1.4.3.2" word doc
hm, delay between spawns is not in the xml anywhere
Then again, I'm not too sure. Never tried customtrials
i think the instructions made it work, at least my game is opening and debug says its running
but its not letting me actually change any settings
What mods do you have?
modcommon, modding api, debug
if the "pause menu options" is just whatever pops up whenever you hits esc, then its just showing the regular "continue, options, quit to menu"
hey how do i turn on enemy randomizer? I have the mod installed but its not working is there something im missing?
ah yes, that works. thank you 😄
Go to options > mods > turn enemy randomizer off then on > restart the game
It should be on
ty!
oops
by default it's ..\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods
Have you ran the modinstaller?
i installed it through the installer from here
And there is no mods folder?
Can you clear the search bar
aight
And hollow twitch isn't working?
not quite that it isnt working
i just cant find the readme stuff
or the mod as a whole
For readme check the pins for readme docs
any channel in particular?
For save files
.
Press win + r and then paste this
%AppData%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight
For the readme docs?
yeah
This channels pins
..
I think they meant, why do they need to access save files?
yeah that
The readme should be more helpful with that
Also I believe there was a video by relyea on how to set it up
i was looking at that
but it said to put something into the files and i couldnt find said files
hence my problem
ill try watching through first
oh i might just be dumb
k i think i figured it out thanks
will return if im still dumb
i downloaded the hollow point mod but every hit I take deals all my masks
was that intentional?
benchwarp, mondconsole, and modcommon are the only other things downloaded
nope
Hmm, maybe try verifiying game integrity and reinstalling mods
gotcha
Can you send a screenshot of the error?
Are you on 1.5? If so: follow the instructions in the latest pins
Make sure you read the readme and play on a save you create before installing hollowpoint
you have to make the save first?
Yes, uninstall hollow point, make a new file, reinstall hollowpoint, launch that file
aight ill try that thanks
having a problem with modding in general
Which is?
until now modding has worked fine, but now whenever I run hk (with mods), none of my saves will show up and are replaced by "loading"
There's a fix in the pins #archived-modding-help message
Linking this would make it easier for them to reset the installer
for the instructions do i copy the hollow knight folder and paste it in desktop?
Which instructions
Resetting the installer isn't part of that fix?
the one for the moddingapi bc its not compatible with 1.5 yet
Are you on windows or mac? you shouldn't need to do anything with folders if you're on windows
Steam?
yes
Go to steam library > right click HK > properties > betas > click none > select 1.4.3.2 > done
ok thank you :)
in debug, when click, nail damage increase, how to cancel?
If you bound nail damage increase to click you can change the binding in the menu, if you want to reset your bindings there's a guide for that at the bottom of this pin. #archived-modding-help message
Oh mb wrong file
Use the bind for nail damage decrease to get your nail to the correct value
there are 2 "Debugmod.GlobalSettings" files
delete both?
Yea
My screen randomly flickers while I use dash. I think one of my mods could be doing it. Any ideas what's going on?
I've never heard of that one. What mods are you using?
give me a minute and I'll try to record an example
it seems to happen at the start of the dash for maybe a frame
ugh, great. I don't think it was recording at 60fps so it didn't show
Was gonna say, I thought I was just being blind
here, this got it once
it actually happened a few times but the fps must've dipped again so it only got one
Yikes that's a lot, makes it kinda hard to narrow down a cause or conflict
Well, I know it's not custom knight. I've turned it off and it still happened. Most of them don't happen at the same time, though, so I didn't figure it'd be an issue
If I had to guess I'd say maybe SmolKnight, or maybe it's a pc issue and having so many mods could be a problem?
That's what I was thinking, since this is the first time I've used SmolKnight, but I'd assume other people would be talking about it if it was common
Maybe the knight becomes big for a frame and the light from the knight increase causing the flash
Smol knight is really new
It's been like 1 week?
that's what I was thinking, but I wouldn't know how to fix that.
Who's in charge of smolknight? Can I send them info about the bug? (no pun intended)
it is so sad that the modinstaller isn't working right now
You can still use mods by downpatching to 1.4.3.2, there's a guide in the pins
guys is there a way to use mods on nintendo ?
thought it was immortal
Only on PC on Steam/GOG
#modding-discussion if not needing help with installing mods
i have a quick querstion @plucky kestrel
i dont know what im doing wrong but how do i switch the randomizer preset from default to chaos?
yeah?
but its always just the default one
it states theres different options of enemy randomization in the readme file
Screenshot the rando menu after you press make New save file
i dont have a rando menu?
can i just send the screenshot here?
but im wanting to change the enemy randomizer itself to chaos
so theres no limits on what spawns
no no
i figured it out
sorry for the inconvience
i didnt realize the enemyrandomizer option was all the way at the bottom in the settings so sorry
@native ice i know i can but i think i wanna wait to the modinstaller to update instead, in the mean time i still have radiant markoth to beat :)
Help....
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@pure dock ha ha what???
It’s a know bug. The fix is in the pins
@neon marten on lol
Nice Another Problem, i cant Solve it
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moddingAPI 1.5 out yet?
It would probably be pinned if it was
idk what happened but this happened before the 1.5 update to hollow knight, but basically whenever I play with mods on i can't access my worlds and they don't load and I don't know why maybe if someone could help be that would be appreciated.
Run this file
oh thank you it works now
where do i find the new version of modinstaller
does not exist
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thanks
A. Nice!
B. I'm writing some tags here so that I can find this later via search:
#fix #save #saves #bat #loading #notloading #mulhima
There are lots of pins. Scroll down through them :)
I don't understand the point of #
Like if I search #loading then "loads" "loading" still come (ie stuff without the hashtag still come)
I'm not sure if there's a way to search literals in the discord client/app. That is very silly.
Regardless, some kind of "jarring" formatting/characters help to visually identify stuff.
What I tend to do to find stuff like that is search
from:dwarfwoot tag1 tag2 where tag is just something I remember adding to the message.
I guess to easily find them, I could start attaching some kind of visually distinct image file, and that would allow me to additionally include has: image
k sorry for being a dumbass but infinitenotches mod isn't working am i missing something? i've installed it with mod installer
Do you have the modding api?
Np
Does the gravity mod only work on the new version of HK?
which folder do i install the modding api in?
Just use the mod installer
i'm trying to use a mod that's not in modinstaller. would it still work?
Why do you want the API folder tho?
in modinstaller 1 yes, with modinstaller 2 you do need to manually move the mod in the correct location
For mapi is hollow_knight_Data/Managed
For the mods place them in hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods
Why do you want the API folder tho?
i read some posts online and one said i need the modding api to use mods, and it didn't mention anything about modinstaller
i know nearly nothing about mods tho lol
thank you!
I downloaded mod installer a long time ago and for a long time it worked fine but now every time i try to hollow knight with my mods it doesn't let me open it
is it because of the 1.5 update
?
Yes check the pins
okay so ive been trying to get trial of the true masochist working since yesterday, heres what ive been doing
i got the customtrial.dll from the google drive in here
i got the wavesequence.xml from fireborns youtube video
i got the trial editor using the instructions in fireborns youtube video
i tried importing the wavesequence into the editor, there is an error that says "delay between waves is not a command"
i know the app is glitchy, so i tried just putting the wavesequence and the dll into the correct folders (dll in the managed > mods folder, and wavesequence in the managed > mods > custom trial folder that the mod auto made when i loaded up the game)
i reload the game, go to the trial, no enemies spawn.
then, i tried the example waveseq that came with the editor, set it to spawn to enemies, and just have a 1 geo reward, just as a test
i reload the game, go to the trial, nothing happens, the crowd just cheers and then nothing
i have the modding api and modcommon installed
anyone know what could be wrong?
Custom trials also needs vasi
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it works now, thanks
Hello,i got more problems with the mod installer. The same error appears!
The error being?
I alredy did it ones,it worked for some days and now it happens again
I have to do that again?
yes
my ps4 controller is not working with controller vibration mod?
im using 1.4.3.2
on hollow knight
has anyone ever goten a virus from modinstaller
a virus checking website said possible virus
i had this downloaded before and my pc stopped working it mightve just been a skin i downloaded but idk
If you're really scared for viruses look for the mod/modinstaller on GitHub and compile it yourself
If you download things only from here you will be fine
hi guys, does modinstaller work on the new patch yet?
ok thanks
Np
sweet
so, update on the freezing problem i was talking about in here yesterday: i ended up reverting completely back to vanilla and reinstalling my mods, which seems to have helped somewhat, but i ended up still getting a freeze after a while. the only mods i can think of that could potentially be causing problems are bonfire mod and exhaltation, so if anyone knows of any existing problems with these mods, please let me know.
i've also noticed two other mods that contribute to the freezes: the freezes increase in frequency when using custom knight skins, and the more detailed (skins like starry knight, crimson, celeste crystal, starbunny), the more freezes i get; and the randomizer 3 mod seems to be somewhat related in that when i use modes other than item randomizer, i get more freezes - slightly more with item + area randomizer and significantly more with item + connected-area room rando and item + room rando
i downpatched through the steam betas and enabled mods, and now when i launch the game i just get a black screen
That is a new issue
May I ask what your pc specs are?
the cursor is the custom cursor though
What mods did you enable
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
(i hope this helps. i have an acer predator also if that helps)
benchwarp, blackmoth, custom knight, player tracker data, QoL, SereCore, amd Vasi
are there problems with benchwarp?
there is a controller yeah
It just has a lot of preloads which can take up memory and makes starting hk slower
ah
Unplug until main menu, can bug mod loading
i can also give a list of all the mods i have if that helps
That’d help
still just a black screen
Try disabling all mods
all mods disabled still give me a black screen
Hmmm
alright: benchwarp, bingo ui, bonfire mod, custom knight, debug mod, enemy hp bar, exhaltation, infinite notches, modcommon, more saves, qol, randomapmod, randomizer 3, serecore, transtrans, unofficial hk patch, and vasi
And your controller is disconnected?
yeah
That is a lot
yea...
Try disabling some you don’t use, probably a memory problem
oof ok. i use most of them but i'll try that
im validating my files and trying to start over
apologies if i'm interrupting something, but i'm trying to use the mod installer, but it says my game isn't up to date, yet it is
i tried the public beta and the non beta but it still won't work
First could you send ModLog.txt found in your save files folder?
?saves
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
Look at the first pin
Hmmm
is there a way to move a save from the second page to the first page?
so its not even outputing a modlog
Go to your save files path and rename user(save number).dat to user(1-4).dat
alright thank you
Also do it with the user(save number).json if using Qol
alright, thanks
there are only like three mods i'm not using tho...
is there anything it could be other than memory? i mean i have 16 gb of ram and it says 15.9 are available
hm
i'm trying to remember which mod requires vasi
oh, qol
ok well i guess i'll give it a try with those three mods uninstalled
would output_log.txt help at all? because that file has updated
how do i uninstal the mod installer
Click on the installer. Press delete key
are there any other files it leaves that i should remove?
i tried to go to vanilla but it gave me an error so i just disabled then uninstalled everything
That's not verifying integrity
Go to steam. Right click your game. Verify game file integrity (in properties)
That's it.
so all ive done is downpatch using the steam betas and click enable modding api on the mod manager, with all mods disabled and i just get a black screen
even if i have my controller unplugged
My Modinstaller wont work and it says I need update the game to its strongest version (latest) , idk if its bc I recently got a downpatcher but I deleted that and everything to do with it, so then I thought it could be the latest patch but I can't see anywhere to update it to that patch, Im assuming it updated on its own so idk what to do
?pins check the first one
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Oh thanks
Do you think the modinstaller will be updated to the latest patch soon than later?
give it a couple of weeks tbh
Unkown, it might be a while
Is there a way to put it back to previous versions so i can install mods?
download the old files from steam
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Okay thanks
So, I've been trying trying to install the Hollow Knight Discord RPC, and it tells me to check a readme file. Ive tried going into Managed/Mods but i dont find it. Is it in another location?
There's a doc with the readmes in the pins of this channel
are there any news about mods in 1.5??
Not yet, you can downpatch to 1.4 though. Guide in the pins
anyone wanna play multiplayer?
I got this error after I try to start modinstaller
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It started to not work out of nowhere (yes, I have 1.4 version)
I assume that translates to “the sequence contains no matching element” or something similar?
yup
Also the 2nd pin down has a download that will reset the installer
I hid the debug menu how to I make it visable again
do you know if there's anyway to down patch hollow knight on a mac
you have to make a backup of your game files before updating to 1.5, or else will have to downpatch using methods outlined in this guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NU4yVrTmO9PVuADRxGTIj3JSU2abB9WNwl9vG8dSkFg
when i try to open mod installer it says i need the current patch but my game is on date
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The top one
whenever i paste the commands on the terminal and switch the the account name and password to the correct thing and i enter it it says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
and doesn't work
For what?
Oh i see
You aren't supposed to have the <> around your username and password
ok but should i keep the steam-then password
No
ok
None of this should be there, just your username
now it says command not found
“cd ~/Desktop/depotdownloader-2.4.3/ && chmod +x .sh”“./gethk1432.sh Nolan123890 Q******0”
-bash: “cd: command not found
Don't put the quotation marks
me and my friend are having a problem with the multiplayer mod, he can see me but i can't see him or it's the other way around. we've tried re-entering the room, restarting the game, reconnecting, but we're kinda out of options now. any help is greatly appreciated :D
Do you both have the Multiplayer Server mod?
Only one of you has it right?
And the host connects to their server before the client does?
yup
What port are you using?
the default, 26950
Hm I’m not really sure then
on hamachi i've tried to use his address, and they did the same, we've also tried to use eachothers addresses, and we've both tried to use mine
neither worked
i should also mention, the only time i was able to see their character, it was standing still in one spot
not moving, even though they told me they were moving
have you tried HKMP ? i hear it's more stable & there's even a public server so neither of you would have to host.
i could try that, thanks for the suggestion!
download link mod atualized?
?
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Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages. 
does that also mean neither of us need to have the multiplayer server mod enabled?
you'd not need the other multiplayer mod and only use this one : https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP
alright, i'll give that a shot. tyvm for your time 😄
use this if you need a step by step guide : https://www.notion.so/Hollow-Knight-Multiplayer-Mod-21723018c74c41d3bc555ee9cfaeb743
Is the gun mod in the mod installer?
If so what's it called, because I don't see it
hollow point
thanks
puedo cambiar el idioma del chat?
Server language is English
Now it says chmod: .sh./gethk1432.sh: No such file or directory
chmod: Nolan123890: No such file or directory
chmod: Q******0: No such file or directory
does it give you an error
no they just wont be active in the game when i enable them
oh wait nvm i installed the new update and mods arent compatible with the new update
Maybe get rid of everything before ./gethk 1432
i can't
I tried this maneuver but it doesn't work. Am I the only one?
I am using Modinstaller2.
it doesn't let me delete it
Oh
since i think i have a mac pc and i didnt make a backup of the game before the update i guess i cant use mods for a while
Read the entire pin there is a method
okay
Are you on ver 1.4.3.2?
Also you @ dwarfwoot when replying to that message
is there anyway to down patch hollow knight other than the pinned comment thing
Yes.
You can get the game on GOG
Screenshot your main menu for me please
Ok.
ya but i don't want to pay for the game again
Yea i figured
when will launcher version 1.5 be out?
Oh, did you make sure to download all 3 of the files in the document?
yup
probably will be a little while
but i don't know if i copied them to the folder correctly
Try going through all the instructions again
ok but how should i copy and paste it to the folder
You click the links provided to download them, then you find your downloads and drag them to your desktop
ok
Did you make sure to install and enable the modding api?
Yea click the orange out of date box
Did it download or switch to being checked?
ok now it just says /Users/rachel/Desktop/depotdownloader-2.4.3/: No such file or directory
basically saying it doesn't exist
even thought i downloaded it and its on my desktop
I have download the mod installer 2 here: #archived-modding-help message
My english can be bad because this is not my language.
Shall I start the game?
do you know how long it will take them to make a version of mod installer that works on 1.5
Sorry late response, yea just run it if the moddingapi says “Installed” and has a checkbox
Unknown rn
Ok.
Is there any way to mod on linux?
Nevermind, just run the installer with mono-wine and it should work
is there a new modding api?
also is there an issue with the modding api not downloading for "not having the current stable patch downloaded" when you do?
There is a Linux Mod Installer pinned as well, fwiw
nvm i just realised that i have 1.5 installed
There technically is a new API, but it's still being updated and mods need to be updated for it before they can be used. When it's considered "ready" for release, there will be a mod installer update.
In the meantime, check the first pinned message for info on using mods
so if im hosting a sever do i need both mods or just the server one
does the mod installer not work with the newest version
Does anyone know when the new api is coming out?
Hi guys, I'm trying to install modinstaller and this problem is happening, does anyone have any idea what I can do? I already tried to uninstall the game and nothing
there are instructions to downpatch your game in pins i think
you can do it through steam properties
you want this version
glad to help
Thanks, I think it will solve
If you're using the Multiplayer mod that's on Mod Installer, then see the "Multiplayer Procedures" pin for a rundown on it. Fireb0rn also has a tutorial on it.
Alternatively, you can use HKMP, which will probably be on the 1.5 Installer when it comes out, but until then you must manually install it: https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP
That github has a link to a support server, in case you have any questions about it, should you choose to use it 
For some reason whenever i try to use the linux mod installer, it crashes when i click any of the options for any of the mods that are installed... I'm currently re-installing HK to see if the issue persists... if so, where can i submit a bug report for it?
i set my hollow knight back but can't find the folder for twitch intergration
The issue does seem to persist, is there a github that i can file a bug in?
It’s more likely user error than a bug, also reinstalling hk won’t do much
WDYM by user error?
Like what could i be doing wrong atm?
Did you downpatch?
Send a screenshot of your installer please
And when you click on "Out of date!" the installer crashes with no error?
Nope, just upon clicking "Enabled?"
You mean clicking one that's already checked?
I know what's wrong
ok
You don't really need to disable anything you should just install and uninstall mods you don't want, also click the out of date button, but if you do want to fix it: Navigate to your mod files, on steam it should be Steam/steamapps/Common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods, and in there create a new folder labelled "Disabled".
Yup
But how can i even uninstall when the installer crashes whenever i click uninstall (or install) lol
Also what I meant by "User error" is that many people make small mistakes they don't realize can break things, and instead of going straight to reporting the bug to the author of the program, you can simply describe your issue in this channel meant to give quick fixes and someone will help you.
That's not what you just said?
Also every time i click something that doesn't result in a crash, it creates a new error file
has the installer updated to the most recent version
Not yet
oh
And when i create that folder, the installer still says there are mods installed...
because when i launch it on the right version it gives an error message and only install mods manually appears so i was wondering if the new version was out
I can't get the twitch mod to create a folder. everytiume i load up the game it says the mod is unknown
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What do you mean "Create a folder" like the settings file to edit?
You need to downpatch, read the first pin
i am downpatched
in the read me i need to get the mod to make a folder and i can't get it to do it
thats why i was wondering if it was on the new version because it wouldn't work
Okay then send a screenshot of the error
I'm pretty sure that just means it doesn't have a Version number
Can you send an image of the readme I can't find it atm
this is the error
#archived-modding-help message Follow these instructions, except for step 2 instead download the program at the bottom of the 2nd pin
?Saves
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
You were probably looking in the game files instead of the save files
Do you get an error message or does it just generate like a text file
Oh ok
Just a text file
Can you share it's contents?
So this is the error whenver i press on the "Enabled?" button, which is then followed by a crash
@native ice it didn't work so i am reinstalling hollow knight
Does pressing install on any other mod work? And does pressing the orange box next to "Out of date!" work on modding api?
Why
Did you follow all the steps
Move the installer onto your desktop and out of downloads
reset the installer
delete the mods file
yes
and run as administrator?
there was no mods folder so i just deleted the files and did everything else and it didn't work
Doesn't work on any other mod, pressing out of date just blanks out the box and generates another error log, without crash
Oh I think i see your problem
Where did you path the modinstaller to?
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When you first launched the installer, it should ask you where your Hollow Knight files are
Yea, i just went with the default cos i didnt know
It looks like it might be looking in the right place
And i went with the default for steam as well, so i guessed they would be matching
Wrong*
I can’t find the saves folder on my pc
I read through the pinned article on how to down patch for mac and it just gives you examples on a windows computer, I'm so confused and if someone could walk me through it I would really appreciate it
because my game has not let me open it for at least a week
Hit "Win + R" and paste in this %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Yea its looking in:
'/media/ghostdog/Storage/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods/Assembly-CSharp.dll'.
but my install is actually in:
home/ghostdog/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight
Oh ok thanks
I have not read this, I'll give it a try, thank you!
Okay well that's your problem, I'm not too familiar with modinstaller 2 do you have a button that says "Select install path" or something along those lines?
nope
Okay, try resetting your installer, in the second pin down there's a program you can download and run to do that
Also your pathing is kind of odd, what's debian-installation ? Is that a linux thing I'm not aware of?
Yea
Cos steam has 2 paths in linux
Debian for native linux games, and then the default one for games ran under a compatability layer
its super weird
hello
Hello
does anyone know how to reset the damage in the debug mod?
I believe you'll just have to set it to normal manually, using the nail damage up or nail damage down options
okay thank you
For reference

there really should be a helper role
Eh, there's too many people in and out of help channels to give everyone a role
maybe, but you seem pretty dedicated
Note to future people, to reset installer2 on ubuntu, delete this folder: ~/.config/HKModInstaller
is there a way to increase the damage by, lets say one?
because i have it stuck at 20
not 21
I'm not actually sure, haven't used debug for that in a while
do I just open my terminal application and paste the text in there and then type in what it says to?
Ah okay
can you increase it to 32
yes
set it to 32, you just have strength on, itll go to 21 when you take it off
oh interesting lol
Yes i believe so
i was about to do a ||pantheon|| lol
Make sure to read everything though you will have to edit atleast one of the lines
@native ice also it says to navigate to steam/library/applications/ but I dont see an "applications" anywhere when in my steam library
Are you on steam? Cause I think you can just go to Steam library > right click HK > properties > local files > browse
oh okay i thought that might be what it meant but it looked so different, thank you
@native ice thanks for helping btw, that seemed to fix the errors with the installer, but now if i try and play the game with the mod api installed (even without any mods), my controller doesn't work at all, and if i unplug-replug it, the game hard crashes to desktop.
Verify the games files makes it work again, but obviously makes it so that all the mod stuff is uninstalled.
I removed my mod files and the api's assemblyc-sharp
That's a bug with ModdingAPI (or rather, it is caused by how modding API works, and it seems to be really common on Unix systems)
I had it on windows as well, and on mac.
Mac is a Unix system
Yea, just thought it'd be worth saying
1 file failed to validate and will be reacquired
Regardless, for most people, it can be fixed by starting the game with the controller not connected, and then connecting it when you get to main menu
If that dosen't fix it though, then you typically need to use a key-remapping program to remap the controller inputs to keyboard ones
ok i got the folders but i'm testing and nothing happens to my hollow knight when i put the commands in
Don't think that verify was directed at you
Any reccomendations for programs to do this?
lol i tried it anyway
You followed all of the steps carefully? Put in your twitch username and token and stuff?
i did. i think i out them in corectly
Lowercase?
yes
Did you try running the game through steam?
everytime I run it it's through steam
Well did it open?
Is there any plan to ever fix this? Cos for now i just can't use mods unless someone can suggest a remapping program, which might introduce further problems with input lag...
Did you try starting the game with your controller unplugged and plugging it in on the main menu?
Not any Linux ones :/
I use Steam's built-in method of key-remapping, but iirc it doesn't exist on the Linux version of Steam
I dont plug my controller in it connects with bluetooth but it hasn't been connected when I've been trying to open it
IIRC, That message shows up if you attempt to launch 1.5, if you don't launch it from Terminal
That wasn't directed at you, but try what dwarf said ^
Oh wait isn't there a program that runs it from terminal or somethin?
omg i'm sorry i keep getting confused lol, how to you run a game from terminal?
Open the "Terminal" program, then copy and paste this into it:
~/Library/Application\ Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow\ Knight/hollow_knight.app/Contents/MacOS/Hollow\ Knight
then hit Enter
done
That should launch HK
it did not do anything

idk what i'm doing wrong 😢
my only guess is that twitch mod i still showing up as unknown
That's normal
That’s normal
Do we have any idea why unix based systems specifically do this?
I think it's because of controller type and the api, not specifically because of your os
I have no idea. I've just noticed that the people who seem to encounter the issue the most, are Mac and Linux users. People do have it happen Windows, but it seems to be more prevalent on the other systems. Could be a coincidence. I'd think that there's be more windows users having the issue though if there wasn't an additional factor, since there's more Windows users in general (Although, admittedly that might be because steam's controller stuff may auto-fix it for people on Windows)
Strange...
Cos it happens on windows on the same machine too (currently duel booting)
So i wonder if it is a hardware thing
Probably
Maybe controller brand?
It happens more with Third part controllers, but it's not a specific brand thing.
I use the same controller as a friend, and I had controller issues, but he didn't.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ah okay
Getting a new computer soon so i'll try it with that too, see what happens.
If you end up playing in Windows, you can use Steam's "Force Xbox Controller inputs" option, and it should fix it.
Part of this might be mapi related
What are you confused about?
I mean, it's entirely mAPI related
Whenever I use the mapi included with the modinstaller my ds4 doesn't work. But if I copy the mapi I complied on Mac it works no issues.
Ohhh.. You mean like, the published build has a flaw?
Did you follow all the steps in the pinned "Multiplayer Procedure"?
And did you check the readme for it?
i checked the readme files
Apparently, I recall seeing an issue on GitHub regarding this too
abort: 6 just pops up when i try launching the game from terminal, do you know if that means anything?
*abort trap: 6
I might check that out and see if it works for me
#archived-modding-help message I think this launches using terminal automatically if you run it, maybe try this
THANK YOU! That works!
That might be worth pinning
Then maybe try HKMP instead, I think that's more stable https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP
anything i should know about it?
Read the readme, and i don't think you need hamachi
I went in and gave myself the highest permissions
yet it still gives me that message
You'd need to have Hamachi if the host didn't port forward.
I host a public server for HKMP though, so that people can play without needing it if they want.
Ah okay I see
i
dont know computers well enough to pretend i know what that means
so assume i should keep using hamachi?
Yea
You can try opening Terminal again, and typing
chmod +x starthk.command
That might fix that file. But if the earlier command in terminal didn't work, then idk if that will. That file essentially is just automatically using the command.
" no such file or directory"
If you're playing just you and a friend, you may want to both use the version 0.6.0 instead of 0.6.1. The latest release has a bug that seems to softlock the game a lot, and the update to fix that was somewhat paused because the dev was hoping to just release for 1.5
oh i think this was the issue
You'll need to make sure that you're using the terminal in the same place that you put the file
Yeah, that would be an issue lol
You need to give Hamachi permssion to use the network
Probably should asked for a screenshot of hamachi earlier lmao
I did, it just keeps saying permission denied
In that case do: sudo chmod +x starthk.command
this is mine, looks like its all good
no such file or directory🔫
hey which pin is modinstaller2, the 4/26 pin, or the 4/11 pin
The 4/26 pin is Original Mod Installer
Note: Mod Installer 2 is not intrinsically better than 1. They both do the same thing, it's just a matter of preference.
huh ok
I was wanting to do a bingo race with my friend and my save files just weren
't loading
Oh, well there's a fix for that in the pins

is there a way for me to see what's the modded boss HP ?
I think enemy hp bar works on modded bosses, can't remember tho
so im having problems with modinstaller 2, whenever i press install on the infinite charm notches mod it just does nothing
is the enemy's HP in debug mod kinda janky ? Abs Rad HP from the debug mod doesnt match the one from the wiki
anyone wanna try this with me
it might just be a problem with whoever im trying it with
well anyone that already has permissions and stuff set up
It's probably because absrad has numerous phases and her hp is kinda awkward
there's a mod called "Enemyhpbars" that might be better
That's an in-game bug lol
In the FSMs absrad has 3k hp but you only need like 2.2k to beat her
Is there anything wrong here?
I have max masks and soul vessels
I ask because on a full soul vessel, I was usually able to get in three heals, but now I can't heal 3 consistently, sometimes after 2 heals, it becomes gray and I have to wait for it to refill
Also should completionPercent be 0? I have 110%
My guess is that your soul vessel isn’t totally full. I guess it’s just below max. There is, as far as I know, no RNG involved in healing.
I think it is loaded at runtime
But if it's full if blinks right? And it goes on to fill the others? It does that for me
Oh ok
Wierd. What mods do you have on?
None. I'm on 1.5
make a new save see if everything works properly on that
Ok
did the mod installer recently need an update?
whats the problem?
I don;t think so
I just got a full vessel, it blinked and then when I hold down focus, I only get 2 heals
But I remember getting 3 heals
Ye but isn;t that because I'm on 1.5?
with the mods installed
and now this happened
i just wanted to start a randomizer thingy
I was just about to ask this as well
?pins
Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png
You need to downpatch to 1.4.3.2
o ok
Np
thanks
i heard about this problem before it happened to me so i didnt expect that to be the issue lol
Oh kek
so will the mod manager eventually be updated for ver 1.5?
Probably but idk how long it will take
Did you previously use mods on that file, before updating to 1.5?
@haughty quiver late reply, it seems to only happen in pc afaik. i've encountered this too and it was without mods. i've got not so good fps (<60 fps) which may be the cause of that but idk
Yes
Huh
So is it a bug? Because it has killed me more than once in the godhome fights
yeah it seems
it happened to me in 1.4.3.2, anywyas
Do you know which mods you used on the file?
And did I read correctly that this is happening in every new fine?
Mods:
Custom Knight
Benchwarp
EnemyHPBar
Debug Mod
QoL
Unofficial Patch
Yes it happened in another save, and when I tried on 1.4.3.2, it's working correctly
In another existing save or in a new save?
In another existing save, should I make a new save and try?
Yea
Also is there a new loading screen with the particles that appear around a dream boss after you have killed them?
I've never seen it in 1.4.3.2
But now it's there in godhome and loading takes longer
I know sometimes there's a random explosion looking effect in the bottom right and it loads slightly longer but idk why, it happens in vanilla and definitely happened in 1.4.3.2 to me
Oh
How come I never saw it?

maybe its just your cpu or disk
Well I tried in a new save and it works as intended
i definitely have the worst hardware among us
Then it's probably because of unofficial hk patch
like
Hollow knight isn't that taxing tho
Lemme try again in my normal save
yeah i suppose
i've seen people report issues with the game performance
with jumping, and all
Hello, trying to manually downloaded the modding api for 1.4.3.2
I made a separate folder for the installation by duplicating the existing one and installing the modding api into the new one
The executable in the folder however launches the game with no modding api
I eventually got the modding api to work but only when it was in a folder that had not been renamed from "Hollow Knight" and when launched through steam and not the executable directly
So i tried adding the executable in my renamed folder to steam as a separate game but that just launches the unmodded game instead for no apparent reason
Probably a problem with steam, help pls
Why are you doing stuff manually
You should use the Installer
Look at the section for multiple installs
got it to work, thanks
?modinstaller
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages. 
that works?
no someone typed a command and deleted it but it looks like it works
i have been bamboozled
lol
Damn you blew my cover
C'mon it would've been funny if you just let it be
Does anyone know where we can store sprites on Mac for the custom knight mod, I am able to see the option from mod installer but it only shows default
Correct Mac skin path
?pins
Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png
Yes
If your on mac its the regular long downpatching way, if your on Windows the "downpatching" takes like 10 seconds
I dont think so, you can backup them if you want
how do i go to beta and keep 1.5 or whatever it is now open and not switched
Use the downpatch method listed on www.speedrun.com/hollowknight
(The guides section)
but what if the only one i can access is 1.4.3.2
What?
You want both 1.4.3.2 and 1.5.68.11808 installed, right? Is that what you're asking?
So do this?
ok
It only works on legit hk or? Asking for my friend
Yes
hey i downloaded modinstaller and it says please update to latest patch ,but my installed version is latest so how to fix ?
@terse quartz Hey! That'll be because the game has had a recent update, and ModInstaller hasn't had time to update to catch up. You'll either need to wait for the new one (easier and safer) or downgrade your patch to the last one.
?pins
Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png
Also, out of curiosity, how long do updates to it tend to take? I don't want to rush anybody because the content y'all provide is quality but I'm curious when I can expect to be able to update.
likely 1-2 weeks, can't promise anything tho
Okay, cool! Thanks! Everyone updating their mods and the launcher should take as long as they need and take care of themselves, it'll turn out great. 
how to downgrade
Check the pinned messages, it's in there! ^^
No problem! Have fun!
thx again
@gloomy coral my managed folder is empty after installing custom knight is it invisible?
screenshot (make sure path is seen)
If you're on latest release of customKnight the path on Mac is also fixed to match the regular mods directory Resources/Data/Managed/Mods/CustomKnight
hmm it doesn't seem to be in either of the places but I can see customknight under mods in game
oh nvm I forgot to press the managed folder I just pressed resources/data
thanks! @gloomy coral @brazen pasture
may I have some help? hollow knight isn't starting up
Does anyone have the pale king skin, I saw it in a showcase but can't find it in the drive link (or anywhere else)
check pinned messages, you might have to downgrade to a previous version of HK.
im on mac and i had hollow knight on steam but i switched over to gog with 1.4 but mod installer wont seem to work with it
i think its still trying to load mods into the steam version even after i uninstalled it
@versed yacht #archived-modding-help message run the reset script attached to this message
Depends which, lime's can be found in the general skin drive
I don't think TWP's pk skin is available
hey im doing an absolute random run, is there a way to no clip? there are two items that are locked behind doors the didnt open after completing the required room
if you have the debug mod you can no clip
whats the command for it?
i dont know it sadly
likely in pins
look there
ok ill look
updated
nvm debug mod doesnt need commands, thanks tho!
np
I'm not sure what to do to get to the next page of saves with the MoreSaves mod installed. what am I meant to do?
that might prove to be difficult, I don't have an english keyboard. I'll find the key then.
So I know the mod installer is working for the moment in the new 1.5 patch, but is there a possible release date from when there will be mod installer for 1.5 patch?
found it, thanks for the hint
isn't working*
no
I mean how would you make a release date
its done when its done
It's not like the work is already done and we are just waiting cuz we are bored
idk, maybe have an idea like, when its done, like maybe in 2 months or something
if i was to go back to 1.4.3.2 would i lose all progress in a 1.5 world in the same save or would i make a new one or what
when i went back my save file was working fine
so i can enter a world from 1.5 in 1.4.3.2
as far as i know
"check ModLog.txt" wheres that?
Save files
Press win + r and then paste this
%AppData%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight
if I have a rando3 save and then disable it, will my save be corrupted the next time I enable RandoMod and try to load it?
if you open it without rando, yes
hi, the mod installer isn't opening, saying that it needs the most recent update but my game is fully updated and idk what to do
how do i change enemy rando to make it change every enemy seperatly instead of having uuomas be tiktiks and only tiktiks for example
?pins
Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png
You have to change the beta to 1.4.3.2 to use modding API
Check the readme. Check pins for readme docs
I cant warp?
Settings> unlock all
Thx :)
Debug mod
Invincibility option
Thanks
i am getting a error message everytime i try mods on hollow knight
?pins
Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png
Hi all, new to speed running and this community. I downloaded debug mod and the save state option doesn't appear to be in bind section of the hotkeys (I saw the option on some of the tutorial videos). Anyone know why that is? Thanks
You need to get the dll from #resources
Got it, I must have downloaded an old dll for debug. I got the new one. Thanks y'all
guys for some reason i just cant heal at all
the button doesnt work
i dont know if its because of a specific mod but i cant fix it
Do the hollow point fix in pins
?saves
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
How long do you guys think it'll take for the moddingapi to update?
Between 1 and Ten.
||There's no ETA. It's all volunteer work among people who also have various other things to do as well. When they're able to get a good build of Mod Installer made for 1.5, then they'll still need to get mods updated for 1.5.||
i think 1-2 weeks
but i cant promise anything
but for every mod to update will probably take forever
I need to get my stuff all setup to help with converting mods. I really want to work on updating all of the random abandoned mods to 1.5
I tried hollow point and I realised reflection ain't working
The bullets don't hit anything
We do the team cherry way with the TBA
ah yes, the random unexpected release
#810409984709492797 message
Open this for all the current 1.5 mods
no access 
That's the whole point
where does that even go lol
My own server
ah
With only me in it 
If you ever want another
, feel free to send me an actual invite
A link that doesn't lead to abyss [deleted so people don't downlaod wrong stuff lol]
... if you're in the speedrun discord
you updated QoL but no vasi?
I shall fix
you have done the fix
^^
Maybe
i can see that you updated it so no maybe
i got the exact same thing
dandy's message needs to be pinned
Scroll down and see how they got their problem fixed
This might not work
why not
Dandy sent another message idk when that gave the command to make the file locally so the permissions are correct
oh that problem
Mac permissions ig