#archived-modding-help

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glass meteor
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Mono probably has its own file selector honestly

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mono's ui on non-windows platforms is terrible

quiet turret
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@glass meteor I'm almost certain it does.

quiet turret
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Yeah. I'm going to do it manually.

glass meteor
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API replaces Assembly-CSharp.dll (in Managed) for DLL loading and Rando + the library go into Managed/Mods

quiet turret
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Mono's default file selector is not letting me select the right folder because it refuses to show me dot files.

glass meteor
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terrible

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just move the files

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Or symlink steam if you don't want to do that

quiet turret
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I found hollow_knight_Data, but not the managed folder.

glass meteor
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it should be hollow_knight_Data/Managed

quiet turret
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It is.

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I was just exepecting tab completion to find it. Which only works if you capitalize things.

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It didn't fine it before, but not it does.

glass meteor
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zsh gamers rise up

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there's a set for it w/ bash too

quiet turret
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Do I need both the new Assembly-CSharp.dll and the xml?

glass meteor
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xml doesn't matter

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It's just documentation

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You just need the vanilla assembly replaced

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I'd just rename it to Assembly-CSharp.dll.bak or something

quiet turret
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And then I need to create the mods folder too.

glass meteor
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yeah

quiet turret
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My Mods folder contains these two files: RandomizerMod2.0.dll SeanprCore.dll Is that all I need in there?

glass meteor
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Yeah

quiet turret
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time to test this

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Good that works.

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Now I need to figure out what all the options in the randomizer do

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Is there a readme anywhere?

glass meteor
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comes with the .dll zip

quiet turret
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Which zip?

glass meteor
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or not

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unfortunate

quiet turret
glass meteor
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The "all (x)" stuff is you need those things to go into black egg

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the skips are just what skips you might need to finish the seed

quiet turret
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I don't know what any of those skips mean.

glass meteor
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shade skips are when you kill yourself and pogo your shade

quiet turret
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Which is the main reason I'm asking for help.

glass meteor
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spike tunnel is where you can use dashmaster/fireball to go through a spike tunnel (like the one from waterways to isma's or the one to glowing womb) w/out cdash

quiet turret
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And Acid Skip?

untold elm
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when you go right above acid without ismas

glass meteor
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using cdash

quiet turret
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How hard are these skips?

glass meteor
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usually not too bad

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acid/spikes are probably the hardest to try at first depending on what acid pool

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but they just take a bit of practice

real jacinth
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the bigger problem is knowing what skips are even possible

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and where to apply this stuff

quiet turret
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Yeah. I'm just going to leave skips off for now.

glass meteor
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understandable

quiet turret
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Do the things that are sold at the shops get randomized?

untold elm
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yes

quiet turret
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How does Relic Seeker Leem work? Does he just buy the stuff you have?

untold elm
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yes

quiet turret
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also, are the locations of those relics randomized?

real jacinth
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he operates like vanilla

untold elm
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and relics arent randomized in normal randomizer 2

quiet turret
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I assume charms, soul fragments, and mask shards, are all random too, right?

real jacinth
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not soul and masks

untold elm
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^

glass meteor
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charms movement abilities and geo chests

quiet turret
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Huh? How do you randomize Geo chests?

real jacinth
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mods

untold elm
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it's automatically randomized

quiet turret
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Do the nail art locations get randomized too?

untold elm
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yes

quiet turret
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So what do you get if you find the nail masters?

covert oasis
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something

real jacinth
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a charm, movement ability, etc etc etc

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they're all in the same pool

quiet turret
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Is there an item tracker anywhere?

real jacinth
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you mean your inventory?

quiet turret
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Oh, yeah

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I just know that there are item trackers for A Link To The Past randos.

real jacinth
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item trackers are mostly for streaming

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there is one for that

quiet turret
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I see.

real jacinth
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but if you're just playing, your inventory tells you what you have

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trackers tell the viewers what you have

quiet turret
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Alright. Sounds good

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Learning this randomizer is going to be a pain.

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Do people usually go for void heart in the randomizer?

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Also, are Collosseum rewards part of the pool?

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And is the location at the end of White Palace also in the pool?

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What about doing the flower quest?

glass meteor
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there's a version with more stuff rando'd in #randomizer pins

covert oasis
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why lifeblood core

untold elm
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because you need to have lifeblood heart and joni's blessing to easily get it and it's just a pain

covert oasis
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oh yeah

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i couldn't remember what locked off lifeblood core

quiet turret
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@glass meteor What version should use to learn the rando?

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@covert oasis You need 15 or more blue masks

covert oasis
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yes i remember now

quiet turret
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That's what locks it off.

covert oasis
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yes i remember now

glass meteor
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idk

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I'd probably start with the less rando'd stuff version but if you want to going for more stuff is very fun

quiet turret
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Starting with the less rando'd stuff version

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What's the average amount of time for the rando to take?

untold elm
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depends on your skill level

quiet turret
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So, are the colosseum rewards part of the pool? Like is it possible to get the Crystal Heart from the Trial of the Fool?

real jacinth
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no

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if a check sucks to get, it's probably not randomized

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in that version

quiet turret
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Colosseum rewards are not randomized. Cool.

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Does the more randomized version randomize that?

glass meteor
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yes or at least the charm notch and pale ore

real jacinth
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and top players on hardest difficulty range from 45-90 minutes

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less skilled can take 4-6 hours

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on easy

quiet turret
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My first ever 107% all 5 pantheons completed run took 78 hours. So...

real jacinth
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that doesn't really mean anything

quiet turret
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It doesn't?

real jacinth
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my first playthrough was 30 something hours and 88%

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whoopee

quiet turret
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I've still never beaten the Trial of the Fool.

novel bronze
glass meteor
novel bronze
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oh nvm

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is this the right link

glass meteor
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no

waxen cradle
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is it possible to mod on my pathetic mac

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:(

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my mom fking forced me to get a mac lmao

novel bronze
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**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

  1. Open the Terminal
  2. Type cd $(dirname
  3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
  4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
  5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
  6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

  1. install mono here
  2. Open a new terminal window
  3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
  4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.
waxen cradle
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yay

brittle cave
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what does the mod randomizer 2 do?

waxen cradle
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idk ive never modded this game

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it prolly randomizes items you find and when do u fight different bosses

hexed ether
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Where can I see descriptions of the mods in the installer?

novel bronze
hexed ether
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Thank you :)

hoary aspen
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in HK for switch and other consoles, there's a file called shared.dat, and inside it you can find stuff like
{"Key":"HollowKnight.Achievement.HORNET_1.IsAchieved","Value":"1"}
which are responsible for the achievements

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how can I figure out how are the rest of the achievements called?

quiet turret
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Does the randomizer randomize the things the snail shamans give you?

glass meteor
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yeah

quiet turret
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How does one beat a Baldur without shade soul?

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To get out of the first snail shaman's place.

safe canopy
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Don't think it hardsaves you in rando

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Or benchwarp if you have that installed

quiet turret
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Benchwarp sounds like another mod. I don't think I have that one installed.

neon pawn
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My modding API started acting up, so I'm trying to reinstall it. I have the mod installer, but I can't find where to download the API itself. According to https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html it's possible to download the API off of Google Drive, but I've been unable to locate a link to the Drive.

tawny carbon
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;İi

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download in incognito

quiet turret
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When people play the randomizer, what sort of a completion do people go for?

neon pawn
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@tawny carbon I'm not sure what you mean by that.

quiet turret
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Do they usually just play until they get into the Black Egg and beat Hollow Knight for the first time?

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And do people just skip the Kingsoul and Void Heart?

crystal bay
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if you used the installer you already have the api @neon pawn

neon pawn
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I found a file in an old folder called Assembly-CSharp.dll, but selecting it wouldn't let me press the Install button in the bottom corner.

glass meteor
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that version of the installer is 8 years old

crystal bay
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yea you're using the wrong installer too

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use the one from Sugar's link

neon pawn
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You mean the one from a few minutes ago? I don't see a link. I just see:

;İi
;i

crystal bay
neon pawn
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Thanks

feral fossil
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Hello (I'm new here), what are the requirements for room rando mod? and what is it called in the mod installer?

west bane
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You need the newest randomizer from #randomizer 📌

It requires seanpr core and benchwarp

feral fossil
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thanks

west rapids
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can i use the mod installer with a cracked launcher

tawny carbon
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You

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Mean

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Pirated ?

coral zenith
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no you can not

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buy the game first

west rapids
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i know this looks bad

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but im 13 and my mom refuses to pay for stuff online

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which doesnt clear up anything because im still stealing

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oh shit im stealing

honest berry
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Yeah okay.

unborn scroll
coral zenith
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it be like that

tawny carbon
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i think he tells the truth

potent tapir
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lol

civic spire
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There are some issues with randomized room transitions in randomizer 2.9, where I can share logs and save file?

tawny carbon
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what

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explain " some issues "

civic spire
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I'll start explaining if modding staff or mods answer my question.

elfin jasper
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ok, @glass meteor answer the question

glass meteor
civic spire
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Thx, I wasn't sure if I can post logs there

tawny carbon
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what

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why

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you hurt me

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i tried to help

elfin jasper
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Face facts, the two of us are equally unqualified to answer room rando questions in here

civic spire
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ok issue is that there are only 2 ways to continue game but
It's not possible to continue game because battle in crossroads_08 begins before I get inside, even if I use crystal heart

elfin jasper
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Are you even using the most recent version?

civic spire
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2.9 ?

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If that is the most recent then yes

west bane
tawny carbon
novel bronze
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**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

  1. Open the Terminal
  2. Type cd $(dirname
  3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
  4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
  5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
  6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

  1. install mono here
  2. Open a new terminal window
  3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
  4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.
hoary aspen
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I'm trying to edit fury of the fallen so it'd always be turned on, even at max hp using fsm viewer

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i'm kinda stuck here though

tawny carbon
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anyone who knows fsm help this guy

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@crystal bay

hoary aspen
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yeet skeet explained it to me like a month ago but this thing is pretty confusing

tawny carbon
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for a beginner

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i guess

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hmm let me see

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i never used it but i have some coding experience

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its simple but....

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i dont know fsm

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wait for a modder

midnight willow
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I was thinking about it and don't know if its possible

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or already done

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would it be possible to make Watcher Knights fight all 6 at the same time?

hoary aspen
vernal prairie
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Hey which mod randomizes the rooms?

real jacinth
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Randomizer 2.9.1

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It's not on the installer

vernal prairie
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Ah I see

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Thanks

real jacinth
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Install it manually

novel bronze
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**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

  1. Open the Terminal
  2. Type cd $(dirname
  3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
  4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
  5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
  6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

  1. install mono here
  2. Open a new terminal window
  3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
  4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.
waxen cradle
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in the 3rd step of the fix where it says path its path to what???

west bane
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i assume your HK directory but idk

waxen cradle
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hmm

real jacinth
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just paste it

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like it says

waxen cradle
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ok

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it opened mono32 and it has no windows :(

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i hate mac

hoary aspen
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how do I edit with fsm viewer?

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or is it only an actual viewer?

tawny carbon
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no

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you can edit

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oof saleh is still offline

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@crystal bay ask this guy when he is online

real jacinth
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Pretty sure you edit actual bools before they go to the fsms

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The viewer is just to show you what bools control what

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And when/how they're activated

hoary aspen
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how do I actually edit them then?

real jacinth
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By coding your own mod

crystal bay
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the thing you want to do is really easy

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one sec

real jacinth
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To intercept certain functions

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This would be like 2 lines

crystal bay
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yourfurygameobject.LocateMyFSM("FURY FSM NAME HERE").ChangeTransition("Check HP", "CANCEL", "Get Ref");

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that's once way to make fury permanent @hoary aspen

hoary aspen
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I'm not exactly sure what am I supposed to do with that though

crystal bay
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ok have you setup mod project in vs?

hoary aspen
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nope, is there a pinned guide maybe?

novel bronze
crystal bay
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nvm not that one

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;docs

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;doc

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sigh

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under "Creating Mods"

hoary aspen
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thanks

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It's kinda late so I'll look into that tomorrow

real jacinth
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true modders stay up until 6 am. Kappa

quiet turret
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We've got issues.

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I just tried plugging in my PS4 Controller to use with Hollow Knight. And it wasn't recognized.

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All the other Steam games I have recognize my controller.

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All I have installed is the Mod API and the Randomizer, and that of course means I also have SenprCore.

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So, what's going on here?

real jacinth
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do you have the input beta turned on?

quiet turret
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Not sure.

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Where do I go to get that?

real jacinth
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in the game

quiet turret
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Is it in the options or something?

real jacinth
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yes

quiet turret
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I'm not finding the option for input beta.

real jacinth
quiet turret
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Nope. I don't have that option.

covert oasis
real jacinth
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what version of the game are you on

quiet turret
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1.4.3.2

real jacinth
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then that option should be there

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it's a vanilla game option

quiet turret
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Yeah, but I'm not seeing it.

real jacinth
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screenshots

west bane
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are you linux

quiet turret
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API version 1.4.3.2-51 and Randomizer version 2b.18.

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@west bane yes I am on linux.

real jacinth
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how did you get the API again?

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did you compile it yourself?

quiet turret
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There was nothing to compile. I just took the files required and copied them over manually.

real jacinth
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which API did you grab

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and i mean, go to the github and compile it yourself

real jacinth
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that's what 56 said before works to fix the controller issue on linux

quiet turret
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Why would compiling it manually fix these issues?

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Is the version on github more up to date than the pre-compiled version?

real jacinth
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no

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you could also use other programs like joy2key or similar

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there's also.... a dualshock4 something or other program

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but I think the problem with that one is even using it

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if you're using it, stop

quiet turret
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I'm not using any program at all. I just plug in my Controller and Linux recognizes it.

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So IDK what to do.

west bane
real jacinth
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could try using DS4Windows

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or like I said, Joy2Key

quiet turret
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Why would I want to use one of those?

real jacinth
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have you tried simply using a different USB port

quiet turret
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@real jacinth I have indeed used different usb ports

real jacinth
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you'd use one of those to remap the controller to mimick being a keyboard

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i'm assuming your keyboard controls are working fine?

quiet turret
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Yeah.

real jacinth
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then that's an option

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Joy2Key is really lightweight in particular

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the fact that your beta options aren't showing is also very concerning though

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that shouldn't be happening

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might want to verify your game file integrity and then reinstall the API

quiet turret
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Where is are the beta options supposed to show up?

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@real jacinth ^^^

real jacinth
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in the screenshot i posted like 10 minutes ago

quiet turret
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Yeah. I removed the mods, and I still can't see the beta option in the controller menu. But my PS4 controller does work now.

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@real jacinth Is there some sort of public or open beta I need to subscribe to?

glass meteor
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cease

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you fools

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I just need to rebuild the API for Linux

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the controller settings are slightly different and it messes with people's controllers sometimes

quiet turret
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Can you make sure that you don't rely on the normal FHS stuff. I want this to work on Nixos.

glass meteor
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it should be fine

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pretty sure the Linux class is literally just the windows class but half commented out

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and then there's also an xinput class

quiet turret
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I'm using an official PS3 Dualshock controller.

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@glass meteor If you truely are rebuilding this for linux, please ping me when the changes have been made.

glass meteor
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ok

quiet turret
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How long do you think this will take?

glass meteor
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as long as it takes me to walk downstairs

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so like 5m

quiet turret
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I see. Stop being lazy and do this.

glass meteor
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u

quiet turret
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Sorry. That was a bit harsh.

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I'm going to go get food.

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@glass meteor How is this compiling going?

glass meteor
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well my apple cider exploded so I have to clean that up

quiet turret
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I'm fine waiting.

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@glass meteor Thank you so much for being willing to do this.

west bane
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you're welcome

quiet turret
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@west bane You aren't 56.

west bane
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ah, wrong account, woops

quiet turret
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Oh. Are you the same person. I didn't know that.

glass meteor
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it is a joke

quiet turret
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Totally fine to use either account when talking to me.

untold elm
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everybody is a 56 alt fyi

glass meteor
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a joke as in Zaliant is not me

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ok buddy

untold elm
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ok buddy

quiet turret
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Alright so... this community is great.

quiet turret
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@glass meteor Have you cleaned up all the Cider?

glass meteor
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yes

quiet turret
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Nice. Now are you moving on to the compiling of the code?

covert oasis
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did any get on your keyboard

crystal bay
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it broke in his freezer when he put the cat in so no

glass meteor
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@quiet turret I need a zip of your managed folder

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nevermind i found the backup i had

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@quiet turret

west bane
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@quiet turret Have you zipped your managed folder

glass meteor
quiet turret
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Well, that didn't work.

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I took the new Assembly-CSharp.dll, loaded it up, and my controller still isn't being recognized.

glass meteor
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unfortunate

quiet turret
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So, what should I do?

glass meteor
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bind it to kb keys i guess

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Is it detected by the OS?

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like under /dev/input or whatever

quiet turret
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Yes. All my other steam games are recognizing my controller.

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@glass meteor Why is it that the modding api causes my controller to no longer be recognized?

west bane
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if he knew it'd be fixed

quiet turret
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I see.

glass meteor
versed needle
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I blame InControl

glass meteor
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yes

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There's an XInput class that's only in the linux dll

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and some methods are just replaced with ret 0 in it

versed needle
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Nice

quiet turret
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So, that lastest DLL just causes my game to freeze on a black screen before it even gets to the first loading bar.

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@glass meteor That's really not good.

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Like, the moment the game loads up, all I see is a black screen.

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And I have the different HK cursor that I can move around freely on this black screen.

glass meteor
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idk then

quiet turret
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What should I do now?

real jacinth
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joy2key

glass meteor
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^

quiet turret
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How does one download Joy2Key?

real jacinth
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gogle

quiet turret
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It doesn't seem to be in the Nixos repo.

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@glass meteor Does Joy2Key run on linux?

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Specifically, does it run on Nixos?

tall sky
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Hey what I trade the knight skin using the mod 'custom knight'? (sorry for bad english)

west bane
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you mean what files you replace?

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did you read the tutorial

glass meteor
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I think so

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Yeah

elfin jasper
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Probably not. Most people wouldn't think to go to speedrun.com for a mod guide

west bane
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mickely pinned it but who reads pins soulpensive

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when you can just ask ppl to do it for you

elfin jasper
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It would be more effective as a readme

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but people don't read readmes either

west bane
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homothety mod where it reads instructions how to use a mod it in a sooth voice recorded by homothety when you install it on the installer

quiet turret
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@glass meteor I'm having a hard time finding a version of Joy2Key that will work on Nixos for me.

quiet turret
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@glass meteor You stil there?

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I'm finding it hard to get Joy2Key running on my machine.

glass meteor
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idk

quiet turret
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What do program should I download and run?

stray gate
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hello there. newbie here. if i want to play the "enemy randomizer" mod, what should i do? I have trouble with this particular mod. Here is my full steps: I download the zip file from google drive, put the folder inside the correct(i guess so cuz i have other mods installed before) location, and start the game. I can see the "LOAD***" but when i click that button, it just stuck at 94% every time. I have tried 5or 6 times. every time the same issue occurs. Do you guys have any solution for that? Game version: 1.4.3.2(newest on steam) mod version:0.2.1(says it's designed for 1.3.1.5 but i have seen people with 1.4.3.2 use it without any problem) thanks in advance.

west bane
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depends what time of the day it is really, that mod is moody and if it doesn't wanna work it wont

stray gate
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so.....it's just as the name says?

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sounds like kidding me

real jacinth
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the mod is not updated

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so sometimes it works

stray gate
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although i know you are serious

real jacinth
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sometimes it doesn't

stray gate
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my

quiet turret
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I'm just going to install QJoyPad and hope that works.

stray gate
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what's that?

elfin jasper
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It's annoying that people always doubt that enemy randomizer is broken, even though you can just search 94 and see a billion posts with the same answer hivetired

quiet turret
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@stray gate It's nothing you need to worry about. I'm running Linux, and mods just like to finnicky as all heck on Linux

elfin jasper
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In fact why not make a pin

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Enemy randomizer is broken

obtuse apex
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I assume it's impossible to mod the Switch version, but...
is it possible to mod the Switch version?

real jacinth
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no

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CustomKnight skins: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VlXmvI6KT2vzsGItY2w3rHjeCFx8DN0n

CustomKnight skins created by the group "The White Palace": https://drive.google.com/open?id=16BUDS5e4_5eRId3It318OI4jCCSIZzjx

3rd drive of skins:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11bChAScbKkkH444mmddLKd-1A8t_7OFZ?usp=sharing

Others not on a drive: <#archived-modding-help message>

Skin Summary Page: (Some maybe be duplicates from above drives)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qKfOtOXpYormusD05I700P8d79E74R1bTb3MP4vum-E/edit

EnemyHP Bar Mod skins:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YFMEEA2oVfbQa8VtdhxCA0khxnjun_Hh?usp=sharing

Guide on how to use the mod: https://cd198883.wixsite.com/customknightskins/post/how-to-install-a-skin-with-custom-knight

If your skins still aren't working, then one of the following may be the cause:

  1. You don't have Satchel
  2. The skin was applied at the main menu instead of in a game save (skins can only be applied while in a save)
  3. Your skin folder is structured with extra folders (Structure should be: Managed/Mods/Customknight/Skins/[Skin folder name]/[Skin PNG files])
  4. You have Hollow Point or HKMP installed (conflict with customknight and require alternate actions).
  5. If you used Custom Knight in 1432 and upgraded to Scarab, or you're experiencing the mods menu missing, or you cannot pick up geo, then you'll need to delete customknight.globalsettings.json

This .bat will clear customknight.globalsettings.json automatically (along with other commonly messed up global settings files):
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462200562620825600/889031834938265610/Global_Settings_Clear.bat

Or, to clear your settings files manually:
<#archived-modding-help message>

waxen cradle
#

wait on mac it says i need the hollow_knight.app file but it doent let me select it WTF

#

u know what screw it

#

lol

glass meteor
#

Ok buddy

versed needle
#

Same

supple iron
#

ok so

#

what does debug mod do

west bane
#

MickelyYesterday at 11:57 PM
debug mod deletes the game
and all its bugs
:mickelSmug:

supple iron
#

hes serious?

versed needle
#

It's a utility compilation

supple iron
#

i though that was a joke

versed needle
#

Mostly cheats

#

Good for practicing stuff for speedruns

supple iron
#

ah

west bane
#

i thought you were joking and i think he was to GWlulurdMegaLul

supple iron
#

what a good mod to start with

west bane
#

depends on what you want

supple iron
#

well

#

i tried hell mod

#

no

#

ummm

#

isnt there a gun mod?

west bane
#

still in development

supple iron
#

ah

versed needle
#

There's early builds of it available somewhere

west bane
#

👀

supple iron
#

owo

west bane
#

i think ttaco was the one working on it

versed needle
#

yes

supple iron
#

whats lost lord

west bane
#

mod summaries has all the answers

supple iron
#

o

#

ok so

#

im bad with folders

west bane
#

use the installer

supple iron
#

how do i find the one with all the game data

#

to use custon knight

novel bronze
#
**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/
supple iron
#

ahh

#

how do i open appdata again?

west bane
versed needle
#

To be clear it's in the game files

supple iron
#

right

versed needle
#

Not the save folder

supple iron
#

i just

#

forget how to get there

west bane
#

what OS do you have

supple iron
#

10

supple iron
#

thanks

quiet turret
#

Can someone show me what the default controller settings are for Hollow Knight?

west bane
#

google is a very cool search engine

dreamy orchid
#

is is possible to report mod bugs?

west bane
#

yeah

dreamy orchid
#

just had a softlock on lightbringer

west bane
#

it probably wont be fixed but you can try

quiet turret
#

Can someone show me what the default controller settings are for Hollow Knight?

dreamy orchid
#

I beat the gruzz mother replacement and the doors didnt open

west bane
#

you literally just asked that @quiet turret 🤔

versed needle
supple iron
#

ok so

glass meteor
#

this happens

dreamy orchid
#

you can connect your controller and open the controller option in the options

glass meteor
#

I should fix it but like

supple iron
#

im in the list of files

glass meteor
#

effort

#

You can just quit out and walk back

#

And the door will be open

supple iron
#

where do i go now

versed needle
#

Bro 56 that's so easy to fix

quiet turret
#

@dreamy orchid Except I can't because the Modding API makes it so that my controller is no longer seen by the game.

versed needle
#

You just have to broadcast "BG OPEN" when it dies

glass meteor
#

this involves hitting the compile button

#

impossible

versed needle
#

hmmm

glass meteor
#

the real effort is actually updating the drive and modlinks

versed needle
#

Literally all of that could be automated though

glass meteor
#

this is true

dreamy orchid
#

also seriously no reward other than 50 geo for eating the empress

west bane
#

lightbringer(old) is my favorite mod on the google drive

dreamy orchid
#

beating*

quiet turret
#

So, I have no idea why the Modding API screws with my game.

glass meteor
#

Well

#

You get access to salubra

dreamy orchid
#

no point in killing the empress

glass meteor
#

Which has chad charms in lightbringer

quiet turret
#

And why I don't see the beta input access option in the controls menu

glass meteor
#

like incredibly Chad charms

versed needle
#

But by the time you kill muzznik you'll probably already have access

#

Through blue lake

dreamy orchid
#

because by the time you get powerful enough tobeat the empress you already have accsss

glass meteor
#

that's why you do it early

dreamy orchid
#

its a hard boss

west bane
#

youre a big boy you can do it

quiet turret
#

I'm using Joy2Key to trick the game into thinking that I'm using the keyboard. But I have no idea what the original controller control scheme is

west bane
#

its a good thing you can search for it on the internet shroompog

versed needle
#

Or just open the controller bindings

#

Probably an option even on keyboard

west bane
#

i dont think it shows any active controller for him

dreamy orchid
#

beat empress with tiny shell, eye of the storm, bloodlust

west bane
dreamy orchid
#

took a while

#

thats why you turn on native controller

supple iron
#

hmm

dreamy orchid
#

it fixes it

west bane
#

it's literally not there for him

supple iron
#

i cant find my hk data folder

#

odd

versed needle
#

It's in steam, probably

quiet turret
#

Yeah, I literally don't have the option for native controller.

#

@versed needle where in steam?

glass meteor
#

Native isn't a thing on linux

novel bronze
#
**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/
quiet turret
#

@glass meteor Oh. I see.

#

What should I do in this case?

west bane
#

map it to keyboard?

quiet turret
#

I'm doing that with Joy2Key. But I don't know the default controller layout. Which is why I asked for it.

west bane
#

i answered you

versed needle
supple iron
#

i need to unzip the sprite files dont i

glass meteor
west bane
#

yes you need to unzip them, then follow the pinned instructions for the rest, and you should be fine

supple iron
#

ok

#

its asking me to replace

#

yes?

quiet turret
#

Why does the modding api just make it impossible for the game to see that I have my controller plugged in?

#

What is so special about the Modding API?

west bane
#

yeah replace

versed needle
#

If we knew the problem there would be no problem

quiet turret
#

I know.

#

@versed needle Are you the one that created the modding api?

versed needle
#

One of several people, yes

supple iron
#

ahhh my little pure vessel is so adorable

quiet turret
#

@versed needle Do you know what the issue is here?

versed needle
#

Bruh

glass meteor
#

Bruh

west bane
#

here i'll answer it since they won't

#

your controller isn't working 😎

glass meteor
west bane
quiet turret
#

I'm so pissed off by this

royal wharf
#

That sucks

versed needle
#

It really does

quiet turret
#

So, the word Linux is mentioned only three times in the entire code base.

glass meteor
royal wharf
#

It's open source. If it bothers you so much go and fix it yourself

versed needle
#

You're not entitled to better linux compatibility

#

It could be much worse than controller not working

quiet turret
#

It's mentioned once additionally in the .gitignore, and a few more times in the VS Studio sln files.

west bane
#

btw Firzen/Sean in the mod summaries i re-did i put randomizer 2 over randomizer cause i just assumed it was the same thing, do you want me to put yours in as well? or does it matter

versed needle
#

The original randomizer is shitty and 1.2.2.1 exclusive

#

Probably not worth even having in the installer/readmes anymore

royal wharf
#

Just remove rando 2 and replace with mw

versed needle
#

Not yet

#

With more development, sure

royal wharf
#

Worth a try

west bane
#

i felt bad about leaving it out cause it felt like i was leaving your guys's work out 🤔

royal wharf
#

Every mod contains our work

versed needle
#

Some more so

quiet turret
#

@royal wharf I would fix this, but I don't really know what the issue is.

royal wharf
#

Welcome to the party

crystal knot
#

didn't 56 give you a fixed one

quiet turret
#

Also, I don't know how to comiple this code on Linux.

#

@crystal knot No. Never.

royal wharf
#

Well then that's too bad. You have to rely on people that owe you nothing.

west bane
#

56 attempted but nonetheless the result was unsuccessful tisoweary

quiet turret
#

He gave me a few he thought would work, but the first one failed due to doing nothing over what I already had. The second one failded due to just giving me a black screen immediantly after loading up the game.

crystal knot
#

unfortunate

quiet turret
#

I know.

crystal knot
#

there is a rather simple solution to this

royal wharf
#

Learn how to do it. Figure out what's wrong and make a proper bug report OR stop feeling so damn entitled that other people spend their time for your benefit.

crystal knot
#

just use keyboard like an epic gamer

quiet turret
#

@crystal knot I don't want to do it.

crystal knot
#

too bad

#

and it's exactly like what firzen said

#

no one is required to fix it

versed needle
#

Shouldn't be an issue with using whatever joy2key-esque program you've downloaded

#

Very easy workaround

quiet turret
#

I did download that.

#

It's called qjoypad.

versed needle
#

yes

quiet turret
#

Where in the code do you even check if a key on the controller is being pressed?

versed needle
#

It's part of InControl

#

It's not in the API

quiet turret
#

Huh?? If that's not part of the API, then why doesn't this work. Clearly some part of the API must have messed with the way controllers are handled or detected or something.

versed needle
#

It doesn't

#

Not directly, at least

royal wharf
#

Why don't you go figure that out?

quiet turret
#

@glass meteor When you gave me additional compiled Assembly-CSharp.dlls to try, what exactly had you changed?

versed needle
#

I imagine he just changed it to target a Linux version of the file

#

For the first change, at least

glass meteor
#

both changes are that yeah

#

The second one I just removed the cached hooks

quiet turret
#

Right. And the last change did something else. Because the last change left me with a black screen

versed needle
#

Why would removing cached stuff fix this?

#

Oh wait

#

The cached monomod hooks, I get you

#

If that made it crash, that means there's some problem with MonoMod, right?

glass meteor
#

Doubt

#

i probably fucked up the csproj or something

versed needle
#

Alright

royal wharf
#

Here's what I think. Somebody who says "I don't even know how to build this for linux" and leaves it at that rather than looking into it maybe doesn't deserve to have it fixed for them, especially if there are perfectly viable alternatives

quiet turret
#

Well, it turns out the latest version of modding api that @glass meteor gave me does run just fine. It turns out I never actually properly tried that version until now. I had just deleted the old assembly and forgot to bring in the new one.

glass meteor
quiet turret
#

And running the game without an assembly dll leaves me with a black screen.

#

The latest DLL doesn't actually fix my controller issues though.

#

So I'm sorry.

#

But I blame InControl too.

royal wharf
#

Good, go bother those developers

quiet turret
#

Which developers?

#

TC?

#

See, I don't think that TC screwed up, because the base game works just fine, and my controller is detected in the base game.

royal wharf
#

What about whoever was supposed to teach you reading comprehension? Do you feel they screwed up?

quiet turret
#

Yes.

#

People have constantly been telling me that I can't read.

tall sky
#

I am can't disable the infinity charms mods

#

pleas help

versed needle
#

Disable it from in game

tall sky
#

why

versed needle
#

In the save you want to remove the effect from

#

That's just how the mod works

glass meteor
#

because aa is lazy

versed needle
#

He's not lazy, he just spends all his effort on bad conventions

#

No time left for working mods

glass meteor
#

😤

versed needle
#

You can't deny the truth

glass meteor
#

I really can't

tall sky
versed needle
#

Ok

#

I'm not sure what this screenshot is conveying

tall sky
#

man i am cant acess the mod menu

versed needle
#

Try having mods installed

quiet turret
#

Am I the only person who runs mods on linux?

tall sky
#

ok

glass meteor
#

No

#

aa is in linux and he was making mods

#

and there's been a bunch of people who come in and ask about it

quiet turret
#

Does he have these issues with controllers?

#

aa specifically I mean.

glass meteor
#

His got fixed with the rebuild

quiet turret
#

which rebuild?

glass meteor
#

The equivalent of the second dll I gave you

quiet turret
#

I see.

#

So nixos is just being a strange beast?

glass meteor
#

Dunno

quiet turret
#

Well, I'm going to re-install steam now.

tepid compass
#

Is there anyway to have mods that affect one save and not touch another?

glass meteor
#

no

#

I mean

#

If you don't open the other save the mod won't affect it

tepid compass
#

It's safe to install and uninstall them?

#

I've tried some of them, but some are kinda OP as hell and I don't want them affecting my main save

glass meteor
#

Yeah

#

I don't think there any that fuck up the save left anyways

tepid compass
#

Thank you!

glass meteor
#

Uninstalling the mod should leave your save fine even if you do open it

#

But I'd back up the saves anyways

tepid compass
#

Probably a good idea

#

Thanks

quiet turret
#

Does the Assembly-CSharp-Firstpass.dll need modification?

glass meteor
#

no

quiet turret
#

Why not?

glass meteor
#

it's just some classes that the game barely uses

quiet turret
#

Right... Well. I'm just going to use qjoypad.

#

@glass meteor Any final words to me?

glass meteor
#

no

coral zenith
#

unfortunate

zealous totem
#

I was going to download nightmare god grimm, but it's gone. Is this just a me thing or is there a reason?

west bane
#

its bundled with infinite grimm

glass meteor
#

it's remade in infinite grimm

zealous totem
#

Noice

quiet turret
#

I apologize for for all the complaints I gave here.

#

I really should have just used QJoyPad from the start. It's just I was worried it would be laggy as all hell.

#

I'm finding that just isn't the case.

zealous totem
#

Another quick question. How do I enable Nightmare god grimm? Is it in game or do I have to mess with some files

glass meteor
#

save files

zealous totem
#

Could I please get some instructions? I have genuinely no idea what I'm doing

novel bronze
#
**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/
zealous totem
#

ooooooooh. Thanks so much

zealous totem
#

I know I sound like an idiot, but I set it from false to true and it still loads in normal infinite grimm

glass meteor
#

you saved the file and all right

zealous totem
#

ye

glass meteor
#

uhhh

#

can you send me the dll

zealous totem
#

Im going to try something and if it doesn't work I'll do that

quiet turret
#

I think I'm such a god dammed fool.

glass meteor
quiet turret
#

And then you see that option for "Steam Input Per-Game" Setting that to Forced Off made my issues go away.

#

Yeah.

glass meteor
#

wait really

quiet turret
#

Yes

glass meteor
#

Only with the new dll or with with the original too?

quiet turret
#

Only with the new one.

#

I have tried the old one, because I don't want to break a working system.

glass meteor
#

fair

quiet turret
#

If you want me to do it for science, I can.

glass meteor
#

that'd be cool but you don't need to if you don't want to

quiet turret
#

Also, the randomizer changes some text around. "Dirtmouth: The Fading Town" turns into "Elderbug: The Cool Bug"

glass meteor
#

yes

#

the charm descriptions are blessed

quiet turret
#

Also, I can confirm that only the latest DLL works.

glass meteor
#

cool

#

Makes sense

quiet turret
#

Now, I can't tell if the randomizer is actually working properly or not.

#

I seem to be running into a lot more geo piles than usual.

novel bronze
#

Alright so I accidentally uninstalled the modding api and now whenever I try to install an api dependent mod it doesn't install the api and the mod doesn't work

#

So basically mods broke

glass meteor
#

Could just install it by hand

#

Or hit revert back to unmodded and then re-open the installer and that probably works

novel bronze
#

Lmao it did

#

Thanks

glass meteor
quiet turret
#

I really want to know if I'm actually using the randomizer in this run. Is there an easy way to tell?

glass meteor
#

go get vs

#

it'll be an item pickup instead of the shaman being there

quiet turret
#

Is there a way to view my current seed?

glass meteor
#

If you have qol then there's unencrypted saves which you can see the seed in

winged void
#

Fury of the fallen is also randomized too

glass meteor
#

yeah

novel bronze
#

Alright false alarm

glass meteor
novel bronze
#

It says that it installs it but whenever I go to install a mod and load up the game it doesn't work

glass meteor
#

just install the api yourself

#

it's piss easy

novel bronze
#

How would I go about doing that?

coral zenith
#

mr 56 chan can you install the api for me

#

also check 📌 @ waffle

quiet turret
#

Yeah. This is a randomizer.

#

False Knight just gave me the City Crest.

glass meteor
#

what

#

that is what he does

#

in vanilla

winged void
#

Are you using Randomizer v2.9.1?

quiet turret
#

Yes.

winged void
#

False Knight shouldn't give you City Crest if you randomized everything

glass meteor
#

x

#

city crest is only w/ the one in randomizer-races pretty sure

quiet turret
#

I just got Desolate Dive from the geo chest just to the left of false knight. I don't think that's vanilla

winged void
#

Okay it's working

glass meteor
#

yes

quiet turret
#

Alright... How does one use DDive?

#

I can't seem to do it right now.

glass meteor
#

🤔

#

do you have soul

quiet turret
#

Yes I have soul

winged void
#

Look down and use your spell button

quiet turret
#

I just got the mantis claw instead of vs.

winged void
#

Nice

quiet turret
#

But I still can't use DDive.

winged void
#

Are you even pressing the down button and the spell button?

quiet turret
#

Is the spell button different from the focus button?

winged void
#

Check your controls

quiet turret
#

Because I just looked in the controls and I was hitting the wrong button.

#

So I feel stupid.

#

How do I defeat the Baldur that blocks the way into green path?

glass meteor
#

dive

quiet turret
#

So, I just used the Mantis Claw to do the Ancestral Mound Check without killing the baldurs. I now have Isma's Tear.

glass meteor
#

ok

quiet turret
#

Also, the displayed text that shows up thinks that I have vengeful spirit.

#

Is that a bug?

hoary aspen
#

in HK for switch and other consoles, there's a file called shared.dat, and inside it you can find stuff like
{"Key":"HollowKnight.Achievement.HORNET_1.IsAchieved","Value":"1"}
which are responsible for the achievements
how can I figure out how are the rest of the achievements called?

glass meteor
#

what

quiet turret
#

Are the locations of the charm notches random?

glass meteor
#

not on the version you're on

quiet turret
#

Cool. Thanks.

#

I'm suprised the Hunter's Journal isn't randomized.

west bane
#

cause it serves no purpose

sage bay
#

how to download mods?

#

thx

novel bronze
#

Hi

#

So I am working with the debug mod to make cinematic scenes for a thing I am doing is there a list of all the keybindings? I need to make the HK Fly and/or make movement animations like the walking cloud disappear and preferably also the cdash tail

lavish valve
#

i may of messed with code by accident

winged void
lavish valve
#

tried that

#

didn't seem to help for some reason

winged void
#

Did you reinstall it in incoginto mode?

lavish valve
#

mabye i did it wrong

#

no

#

lemme try that

#

didn't work

#

wait

#

may of figured out the proble m

#

tried almost everything i can think of

#

deleting it and reinstalling doesn't help much

tawny carbon
#

download from here

#

@lavish valve

lavish valve
#

ok

#

oh that worked

#

thanks

primal terrace
#

So I had some mods installed then I got rid of the mod installer. I reinstalled the mod launcher thing but now it says Unable to locate vanilla Hollow Knight. Please verify the integrity of the game

glass meteor
tiny blade
#

yump

primal terrace
#

I already did

tawny carbon
#

do it again

glass meteor
#

from not moddb

tawny carbon
#

here

primal terrace
#

from wherer

tawny carbon
#

are you fucking serious

primal terrace
#

Yes I already downloaded it from there

tawny carbon
#

do it again

primal terrace
#

I did

tawny carbon
#

but in incognito

primal terrace
#

ok

tawny carbon
#

jeez

primal terrace
#

I still says that

glass meteor
#

well

#

do what it says

#

verify your game integrity

primal terrace
#

how

glass meteor
#

right click in steam

tawny carbon
#

you redownloaded , it immediatly said that ? nothing else?

glass meteor
#

properties

#

verify game integrity

tawny carbon
#

i dont have steam

glass meteor
#

not you buddy

tawny carbon
#

i know

#

i guessed

#

😤

#

see

#

sans is my dad

#

answer what happened

primal terrace
#

im checking

tawny carbon
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maggotprime did you check

peak dome
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is their a way to view png files and readme files while in drive?

glass meteor
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no

green jay
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Hey, I got through the modding process by watching relyea on YouTube and with some fiddling I got everything up and working pretty well, but in the video description he says that the bonfire mod is broken and not to download it but I don't know if he meant it'd make the game too easy or if I'd screw over my game entirely if I even downloaded it so I figured I'd ask here, do you guys know what's going on with that?

elfin jasper
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It was a meme, bonfire works fine

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The creator just hates it

green jay
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Thanks!

bright shale
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I am having compatibility issues with the randomizer mod and enemy randomizer mod

marsh merlin
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Hey

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My boss rush mod isn't working

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help?

west bane
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use the boss rush in the game

marsh merlin
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how?

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I mean

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i open the game and says : boss rush ERROR, Check the ModLog.txt
new version available

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but i don't find this new version

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?

west bane
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use the boss rush in the game

marsh merlin
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i don't know how

west bane
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and thats why i just gave you a link

marsh merlin
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i don't know how to use this link

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k

bright shale
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Hey

coral zenith
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Hmm

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Hello

bright shale
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I'm having compatibility issues with enemy randomizer mod and randomizer mod

west bane
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you click on it @marsh merlin

marsh merlin
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yes, i know that

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but i don't know what to do

west bane
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have you tried reading

marsh merlin
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good idea

west bane
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@bright shale enemy rando is outdated so its kind of RNG whether it wants to work or not on 1432

bright shale
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ooh ok

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it works fine unless i use randomizer mod with it

marsh merlin
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i didn't find nothing

west bane
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read more

marsh merlin
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okay

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yeah

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I didn't find it

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: )

west bane
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you just didnt want to read it

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@glass meteor is there any workaround for getting enemy rando to work with reg rando or is it just fucked completely cause of outdatedness

marsh merlin
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yes, i already know how to enter in

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But what does this have to with Boss rush?

glass meteor
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the latter

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P5 is literally a boss rush with every boss in the game

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KT's boss rush isn't updated so it won't work

marsh merlin
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oh

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thx

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Btw

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How i activate Ultimatum Radiance?

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I have to defeat it on Pantheon first?

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i have this

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i downloaded

west bane
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its on the mod installer

marsh merlin
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and activated the Ultimatum radiance

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but i don't know how to fight against it

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I need to defeat it on Pantheon ?

west bane
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troubleshoot it GWchadMEGATHINK

crystal knot
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just fight abs rad in the hog, it will be ult rad instead

marsh merlin
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ok

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what this

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Unoficial hollow knight patch does?

novel bronze
marsh merlin
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Dreamshield Co-Op

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how i install this?

west bane
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see above

coral zenith
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Zaliant doing all the hard work for us here

crystal knot
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zaliant modding staff when

coral zenith
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As soon as sid and angle become modding staff

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So never

tawny carbon
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woah

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i just scroled up and read all of these

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what in the actual fuuuck

marsh merlin
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@west bane

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hey

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how i install dreamshield co-op ?

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I have the files

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but i don't know what to do

west bane
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manual install

real jacinth
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you do know dreamshield co-op isn't really co-op right?

marsh merlin
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yeah

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How i install ?

real jacinth
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📌

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there's a text guide by benji

marsh merlin
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put it on the Hollow knight Data?

west bane
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wait it comes with a readme 🤔

marsh merlin
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yup

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@west bane

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hey

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if

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my

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Hollow knight

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doesn't open anymore?

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help ;-}^;

west bane
marsh merlin
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wut?

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My hollow knight just doesn't load

elfin jasper
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It's hard for us to help you when you give vague explanations of what you did or what your problem is

marsh merlin
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like

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it seems black all time

elfin jasper
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If your game won't start, check that the Assembly CSharp is properly installed

marsh merlin
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how?

west bane
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did you do exactly what the readme said

real jacinth
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it's the co-op mod

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which is an assembly replacement mod

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which is also probably outdated

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and not for current patch

marsh merlin
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yeah

real jacinth
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so.... not surprised the game won't start

elfin jasper
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Oh if you didn't downpatch it's not going to work

marsh merlin
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what i do now?

elfin jasper
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Once again, you need an Assembly CSharp compatible with your patch for the game to start

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If you want to downpatch for this thing, there are guides for how to do that

marsh merlin
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i just want to open my game