archived-modding-help

[frigid sky]

sorry I tagged you my mistake. I am about to ask a question but hit enter too early

[glass meteor]

understandable

[frigid sky]

Hey @safe canopy @glass meteor @runic oriole I am making an intro to modding Hollow Knight video. I wanted to know if there are any FAQ that you get all the time that I could add into the description. Anything that might help you guys out.

[glass meteor]

just btw modding-help is really installing-mods-help

modding is usually used for actual modding

API docs are here (https://radiance.host/apidocs/)

[frigid sky]

OHHH my bad!

[glass meteor]

it's fine

You'll want dnSpy, a c# decompiler which is used to look at the game's code

https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy/releases

There are some example mods

;examplemods

darn

zote is dead

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/tree/master/ExampleMods

[frigid sky]

The video I was making was more on installing mods and less about building

[glass meteor]

oh

I am a fool

Understandable

Installing mods is generally pretty easy

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe

There's an installer here

[frigid sky]

It is. but honestly it was intimidating for me. just because this was the first time I had ever done a mod

I wasn't sure if you had a bunch of recurring questions regarding installing

[glass meteor]

afaik the only thing is what mods do what

which is mostly solved by

a summaries doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xRcL7LJHQbN_lpNYWKYggGA_st0ewnLd1s5X20ukD7s

[frigid sky]

perfect! thank you

[runic oriole]

smh

Just link the installer in the video tbh

Tell people to always backup their saves

And if anything goes wrong, verify integrity of game files on steam

That's like 99% of problem solving

Also tell people never to use the bonfire mod

[frigid sky]

Good to know. I messed up by using the Bonfire mod once. that is something that was not obvious

[runic oriole]

yeah

it's so bad even the mod creator discourages it and hates it

[west bane]

Bonfire mod is great and so is the mod creator

[runic oriole]

shush

[west bane]

U

[frigid sky]

I feel dumb for asking but... Where are the save game files?

[runic oriole]

;saves

oh yeah

zote is dead

[west bane]

Neglect

[untold elm]

📌 probably

yeah

look in pins

[frigid sky]

I am checking in the Hollow_knight_data folder is that right?

[runic oriole]

Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Save Files: %APPDATA%..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:
Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:
Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

[untold elm]

that gets rid of a \ when you just copy it

[runic oriole]

smh

[untold elm]

theres a \ before the .. after %APPDATA%

[frigid sky]

perfect! thanks for that.

[frigid sky]

shhh dont tell anybody. i'm just a noob

[untold elm]

I have no idea who the fuck that is

[frigid sky]

I make youtube videos on hollow knight. nothing special at all

[covert oasis]

[tawny carbon]

im shaking

someone is making a tutorial on mods

unbelievable

"and they are very good at helping people out"

i expected a "modding toxic" there

[safe canopy]

it is

get out

[tawny carbon]

damn this tut is better than verus outdated tut

ohno

he is trying enemy rando

[winged void]

He didn't do item rando + enemy rando smh

[safe canopy]

enemy rando doesn't even work

[tawny carbon]

it did

in the video

i thought it doesnt works

but it did

[winged void]

It works for me

[tawny carbon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQu5cdlytGE

@ kdt

the thumbnail

[safe canopy]

don't @ me

[tawny carbon]

u

[winged void]

Tbh when I disabled QoL mod Enemy Randomizer didn't crash on me

[tawny carbon]

"theoretically you should be able to install multiple mods at the same time"

hope they dont try chaos + art

he even started a rando run

[misty mural]

I just watched that video

[safe canopy]

best thing about that video is that it didn't break at any point

which is really weird

because apparently its impossible to install mods 😠

[winged void]

What Im wondering why did he install Chaos Mode

[runic oriole]

@frigid sky I like that it took me you reading the pinned message to realize the install instructions for the installer are outdated

[elfin jasper]

I wonder, would it be difficult to make the readme button accessible before downloading a mod? Might cut down on the questions coming into #archived-modding-development and asking what each mod does

[brittle elm]

when i open modinsaller and choose the path it says that my game is out of date

[runic oriole]

update it then, gay man

[safe canopy]

the read me is in the zip usually

[runic oriole]

homothety: not really, but it's be a pain

because we'd have to add the readmes to the modlinks.xml

[safe canopy]

you could just stick the readme in the xml directly

[brittle elm]

but it aint out of date tho i bought the game 3 days ago

so yea

ima figure it out

[runic oriole]

ok, open your game

and see on the title screen what game version you're on

[brittle elm]

i see the issue

[runic oriole]

it should be 1424

[brittle elm]

1428

[runic oriole]

umm

[winged void]

I thought the latest patch was 1.4.2.4

[runic oriole]

that's a weird patch number

[safe canopy]

nice

[runic oriole]

because public beta is 1432

[brittle elm]

im from the future

[runic oriole]

and afaik there's no in-between public patch

[tiny blade]

1428 was the beta a while ago

[runic oriole]

kuro is alive

what are the chances

[safe canopy]

are you on windows

maybe the mac/linux beta is behind

[brittle elm]

i activated public beta for a while to fix my achievements

and then disabled it

maybe its that

[covert oasis]

1.4.3.2 isn't latest public beta, because i'm on the stable version and have it as my version

[runic oriole]

wait, maybe 1424 is the beta?

[tiny blade]

1424 was the release version

and 1432 is cp ofc

[brittle elm]

im gonna turn of public beta and reinstall it to see what happens

[runic oriole]

go away kuro

[real jacinth]

public beta is 1424

[runic oriole]

no one needs you here

shush

[brittle elm]

deactivated the beta

[runic oriole]

try the installer now

[brittle elm]

yeet

thanks boiz

[runic oriole]

np

[hoary aspen]

Can anyone help me with activating Fury of the fallen at all times?

[frigid sky]

@runic oriole glad I could help!

[glass tinsel]

HYPE D UP FOR SILKSONG

[real jacinth]

.........

[tranquil rain]

Hello, i've installed the debug mod into Hollow Knight. Is the set respawn bind (F7) able to respawn you there when you die? Or is it just when you press F6?

it drives me insane having to travel back to bosses to retry, is there any option to help me?

[real jacinth]

use dream gate

[tranquil rain]

you are a genius sir, thank you for the help

[slate wasp]

Ohmy Relyea ;w;;;;

[real jacinth]

ohmy relyea nexttimegetpermissionbeforeplayinganentirevideoandclaimingthecontentasyourown

[glass tinsel]

why is there no spaces in your sentance

or most of it

[real jacinth]

because that's how i wrote it

[runic oriole]

oh did that happen mick

[frigid sky]

I was granted grace by FireB0rn and received explicit permission

@real jacinth

[untold elm]

@eternal quest was he?

[real jacinth]

he was surprised when the video surfaced

[eternal quest]

yea, after the fact. he did apologize though

[real jacinth]

so next time, get permission before hand

[potent tapir]

hey, i got a question -- so:
i saw reyleas video and decided to try and install the mod -- i took the files in the commons folder and put it into another; though when i went to try and launch it after it installed, it just flashed the "launching hollow knight.." for a few seconds before it closed

anyone know or think why this is happening?

[real jacinth]

wat

[potent tapir]

?

i'm not sure why hollow knight isn't launching lol

that's just the issue

[real jacinth]

"i took the files in the commons folder"

wat

[potent tapir]

lol okay

[real jacinth]

verify your file integrity

cuz you probably just fucked up your game

hard

and then use the installer

[potent tapir]

... okay this is weirder it's

not letting me verify it lol

i found the option but

[real jacinth]

wat

[potent tapir]

this is what it looks like

[runic oriole]

relaunch steam

[real jacinth]

^

[potent tapir]

okay

[runic oriole]

also

if you followed the video, why didn't you use the installer in the video's description?

[potent tapir]

i did -- i'm not sure why it's doing this

nope, still no option

to choose it*

oh well, i guess i'll uninstall the game lol

since it seems like there's not much i can do

[runic oriole]

F

try that

and ping me when it's done

[potent tapir]

i will

thanks for trying to help though man lol

[runic oriole]

np

[potent tapir]

i’m out rn so it’ll be awhile til i can ping you lol

[potent tapir]

lmao i went to install hollow knight again but

the game completely disappeared in my library

[covert oasis]

[potent tapir]

lol

[runic oriole]

u sure u bought it?

[potent tapir]

yeah ofc lol

i was close to finishing the game

at 104$

104%*

[runic oriole]

what happens when you go to the game's store page?

[potent tapir]

lemme see

.. hm it says to buy it

i'm very confused lmao

[runic oriole]

idk what to say

are you sure it wasn't a shared library?

[potent tapir]

maybe gotta check again

what if it was? lol

[runic oriole]

your friend might have removed you or smth

maybe you have multiple steam accs

[potent tapir]

nah only got one -- hm it might be just my friend who did

oh well, i can't do much about it like i said so lol

[versed needle]

Ok but how do you not know if you bought a game?

[potent tapir]

lol i bought a bunch, lost track of what i got

[real jacinth]

sneezes

Pirate

sneezes

sorry

I'm allergic to bullshit

[potent tapir]

? lol

well like 27 said, it must of been a shared library so i gotta go ask my friend bout it when he gets on

so 🤷

[winter hound]

does anyone have a good video that explains how to mod. ive done it before but i dont remember how to set it up

nevermind

[solemn canopy]

Hi guys Im having trouble with the custom knight mod

all of the other mods I installed seemed to work but the custom knight mod doesnt

And it also doesn't have a read me which kinda sucks

[real jacinth]

📌

of modding

[valid spade]

Hi-- I've just bought Hollow Knight on Steam specifically so I can play with mods. (I was playing it on Xbox.) I'm on a Mac, and when I download and run the installer from radiance, Porting Kit automatically opens, and then I'm lost.

I tried Zote the Mighty's instructions on installing it through the Terminal, but I can't get any of that to work. I'm not sure I understand the commands. I've used Terminal quite a few times, but I would never say it's something I

'm proficient at. (Apologies for the accidental return keystroke there.)

[real jacinth]

Did you watch the pinned video

In this channel

[valid spade]

No, I'll go look at that. It works for Macs too?

Ah, I see. That video wouldn't load before. I'll try it again now.

Well. The video played, the correct syntax worked, and ModInstaller finally installed. Thank you!

[marsh trout]

try reinstalling?
i'm not an expert but usually if mods dont work, reinstalling them fixes them

maybe you have to unzip it?

honestly i dont know anything about this i'm a switch player

[winged void]

I unzipped it

I also moved those other sprites to a different folder (

You need to extract it though

So it's something like this?

Did you put the normal ones somewhere else?

Oh

Well then try see ingame if it works

PS you can always disable CustomKnight from the menu

Mine's on my desktop

Forever sealed away

[marsh trout]

naaa na naaaa na na naaaaaaaaa

thats the point

you beat zote, his ego is trashed

HAHA

I GAVE CORRECT ADVICE FOR ONCE

[tight dawn]

Can someone told me how to install the modinstaller?

[winged void]

;i

Nvm Zote dead

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe @tight dawn

[tight dawn]

thank you

[hoary aspen]

I need some help here with the charm overhaul mod

Its source is in the mods folder, and you can edit that however you want

But for some reason, changes doesn't seem to apply for me

[lament stirrup]

how can I use the mod installer with a legacy version of the game?

[real jacinth]

You dont

Why is your game a legacy version anyways

[lament stirrup]

I wanted to try and potentially speedrun it, so I am currently on 1.2.2.1

[real jacinth]

Have to install mods manually for that

[hoary aspen]

@novel bronze sorry for ping but are you here?

[novel bronze]

i have been summoned

[hoary aspen]

you made charm overhaul, right?

[novel bronze]

yes

[hoary aspen]

I'm trying to make changes to the source project, but they don't apply in game

[novel bronze]

that is only a copy of the pre compiled source
as an open source mod, the source must be publicly available in some fashion

the mod does not pull from that file

[hoary aspen]

so I can't make changes at all?

[novel bronze]

nothing you do to that file will affect the mod

you would have to actually build it

you can attempt to decompile the dll in dnspy, but it probably would have trouble recompiling any changes made

what were you trying to do?

[hoary aspen]

I wanted to make some changes to the charms, like activate fury of the fallen even when not overcharmed, fire a shade soul when attacking with a nail, etc

[novel bronze]

i don't think you can make it shoot shade souls
the prefab it uses only allows for v spirit

not to say it is impossible, not in the slightest, but it would require more than a simple tweak to how i made it work

as for the overcharm effect, it exists for the sake of balance.
it ensures that the lifeblood isn't too much protection

because fury just does so much damage

[hoary aspen]

yea, I want to just have fun with that

[novel bronze]

so lifeblood core is only 2 protection as opposed to 4
but since you are overcharming, the charm can just cost 1 notch, unless you want to spend the overcharmed notch on a 4 notch charm

the sheer amount of dps that you get out of fury is insane, and the glass fury synergy allows you to use it on radiant, something you otherwise wouldn't be able to do

in case you are unaware, fury affects nail arts, which makes cyclone in particular just ridiculous

[hoary aspen]

I always liked just going completely god mode after finishing a game

but staying "faithful"

[real jacinth]

shooting spells out your nail constantly and increasing dmg 75%

sounds faithful

[novel bronze]

you still would only have 1 hp
i can't make fury work otherwise. someone much better at coding could, but not me.
you would need lifeblood heart or core either way, which takes up 2 or 3 notches, or 5 together, on top of fury's 2 notch cost
so without overcharming, you still need to 4 to 7 notches to not just die. without overcharming, that doesn't leave much room for an actual build.

[real jacinth]

just use debug mod, turn infinite soul on, and increase your nail dmg a couple times

ez god mode

[olive berry]

I have debug mod from sean however I can't find a way to use any of the debug options, the mod list is empty

[real jacinth]

go into the game

[olive berry]

I did now what

[real jacinth]

title screen is not in the game

play a save

[olive berry]

Is there a special button I need to press?

[real jacinth]

no

a giant menu will be up in the game

if it's not, then debug isn't installed

[olive berry]

I guess it is not installed correctly, it says Modding API on the top left but I have no big menu and the mods list is empty

[real jacinth]

there shouldn't be anything in the mods list

but it should say debug in top left under the API

did you just download shit from github?

[olive berry]

i did

[real jacinth]

yeah, you don't have the mod then

that's the source code

either compile it yourself

or use the installer

[olive berry]

do you have a link to the installer?

[real jacinth]

📌

[olive berry]

or how do you compile it if you don't have a link

[real jacinth]

pinned messages

[olive berry]

I will try this thank you 😃 Edit: Just installed it about to test it out Edit Edit: It works great TY

[real jacinth]

this isn't reddit

[daring peak]

thanks for the gold kind stranger

[coral zenith]

yw

[fair sandal]

Can you install mods on Windows

[real jacinth]

might block the sun

[fair sandal]

Understabderble

[hoary aspen]

Is there a way to edit sprites?

I want to make some invisible

[tawny carbon]

well there is

[hoary aspen]

How?

[bronze sundial]

help me get a mod plees

[coral ledge]

Well

What ya wanna do is

Well this is how I did it

Go to a video by reyellea or something like that

There’s a link to the download

And I couldn’t do the other stuff as I just don’t feel like it

[trail flint]

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe

[coral ledge]

Or yeah I could’ve just gone and posted the link like a normal fucking human being

God I’m fucking stupid sometimes

[hoary aspen]

yea, i can't find anything about sprite editing

[hollow pine]

(s&q helped) Hello, I'm trying out the Area Randomizer mod. Next to the entrance to Acient Basin is a sign that allowed accessing the left side of City on Tears going from King's Station without vertical movement but now I can't pogo on it. Is it deliberate?

It's fine after s&q, sorry 😅

[uneven creek]

Does the mod installer work on macOS?

[tawny carbon]

@uneven creek first of all i disagree with your nick name

https://youtu.be/FFXnCESFDLU

but here it is

[uneven creek]

Oh thanks

My name’s just a joke, I like MC but I like Fortnite a bit more

[sleek tiger]

glare

banish him to #297468195026239489

[tawny carbon]

alright! then

[oak aurora]

Does the randomizer work on the newest patch? It fails to load for me.

[real jacinth]

Enter save, quit to menu, start a new save

[oak aurora]

Ok I will try that, thank you

[potent tapir]

i went to go try and uninstall the debug mod/the mod installer itself since i wanted to do the pantheon w/o cheating or cheesing it, but when i clicked the option to go unmodded, it told me to verify the files so i did lol

after it finished i went to the mod launcher and clicked the option again but it still told me i had to verify the files

so i'm a bit confused lol

i still have a backup of an old save

[west bane]

cant you just leave it installed and play it in the meantime

[potent tapir]

?

well i disabled the debug mod

but for some reason

inf jump and incr. nail dmg is still enabled

either i'm just a dumbass and did smthing wrong lol

[west bane]

reinstall it, fix your settings

[potent tapir]

hk or the mod?

[west bane]

debug

[potent tapir]

alright

[untold elm]

yeah, nail damage and infinite jump dont get disabled with debug mod

[potent tapir]

ahhhhhhh

i see

[novel bronze]

randomizer 2 is not working for me

[potent tapir]

there we go, it works

[mighty cove]

whats the mod that randomizes everything including rancid eggs and relics?

and, how do you load a mod?

[normal pike]

@novel bronze if you want help you need to explain specifically what isn’t working

@mighty cove randomizer 2. If you want to install mods, use this installer

;I

;i

[covert oasis]

zote dead

[normal pike]

Nvm the bots down check the pins

[covert oasis]

i'm going to do what's called a pro gamer move

actually nevermind discord fucking sucks and it's just counting everytime someone has said "i"

[normal pike]

Unlucky honestly

Anyways guy check the pins for the installer and get that

But if you want the version that randomizes relics also check in #randomizer ‘s pins

[mighty cove]

@normal pike yes i did that and i install the mod and i open the game and in the top left corner it says "FAILED TO LOAD" and i have no idea how to load it

[elfin jasper]

install seanprcore

[normal pike]

^

Note: always check the Readmes

[west bane]

that would involve reading

[elfin jasper]

that would also require readmes to exist

@customknight

[thorny relic]

Does anyone know how to work with HKWE (Hollow Knight World Edit) for Unity? if yes, I'm looking for a tutorial on how to install it so a little help is appreciated

[keen igloo]

Does randomizer mod generate logs?

like, what thing is placed where

or generate a list of this if I know the seed number

[normal pike]

I know Homotethy’s version (the one that can randomize eggs and relics) does

I just don’t know exactly where it is

I’d imagine it’s placed in the mods folder with randomizer though

Which you can find in the Managed folder

[keen igloo]

where to download Homotethy's version?

I only found the old version in the drive

I got it, thanks. The list is in the ModLog.txt, but will be overwritten if you open the game again

[runic bloom]

what is custom knight the read me says there is none

[tawny carbon]

um

you just edit the files in custoom knight folder or replace it with pre made sprites

[runic bloom]

ok

[tawny carbon]

pins for those sprites

[winged void]

#archived-modding-development pins

[tawny carbon]

ye

[silk plover]

i have the bonfire mod and the menu comes up when i stand in front of a bench but disappears when i sit down on the bench

[prisma nymph]

hi guys

[sleek tiger]

yeah

Pale Champ

Daughter of Hallownest

Mantis Gods

[prisma nymph]

are they on the google drive thing ?

[sleek tiger]

Ultimatum Radiance

[prisma nymph]

im on it

[sleek tiger]

I mean

you should be able to just

from the mod installer

[safe canopy]

If you have the installer they should be there

[sleek tiger]

;1

;i

[safe canopy]

The drive is for manual installation

[sleek tiger]

what was the command

[prisma nymph]

wait

[sleek tiger]

KDT

please

I am dumb

[safe canopy]

Zote die

[sleek tiger]

o fuc

anyways

[safe canopy]

;i is the command

[sleek tiger]

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe

is the thing

[prisma nymph]

ho ok thank you

my bad then

thank you it worked fine

[halcyon egret]

How do I mod charms? <w>

[sleek tiger]

...

#archived-modding-development

if you wanna modify the game

unless its like

nah

modding

[halcyon egret]

uhm

[sleek tiger]

what do you want to do

[halcyon egret]

I want to give the Void heart the King's charm regeneration

[sleek tiger]

#archived-modding-development

shouldn't be all too difficult

[polar wagon]

In the description of this video it said you should the bonfire mod was broken and should not be installed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQu5cdlytGE
Should I be worried about that?

From what I see it works just fine

[mighty cove]

how do you make it so randomizer v2 makes everything random including rancid eggs and relics

[real jacinth]

you install the beta version of it manually that's pinned in #randomizer

[polar wagon]

Allright, does the bonfire mod increase max hp of enemies, or another mod does that?

Yes it does, based on what though?

And how can I disable it, and can I configure it at all?

[real jacinth]

Enemies scale based on your progression. Like an RPG

You can't turn it off while the mod is on

[polar wagon]

Oof

I don't mind it that much

but it was a problem when I was fighting the mantis lords and it took me like 4 minutes to kill the first one

[real jacinth]

Then spec your character better

[polar wagon]

Yeah, I didn't know about it and invested everything in Luck for more geo

[iron bridge]

ay guys

where do I get the mod installer?

[real jacinth]

pins

[safe canopy]

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe

[steel bay]

I need some help with the Debug mod. How do I save state in it? I want to save right before a boss battle so I can reload that keep trying it over and over again.

[untold elm]

normal debug doesnt have savestates

just use dreamgate

[steel bay]

Oh! But I've seen speedrunners respawn after beating a boss. What are they using?

[untold elm]

a different version of debug

not worth bothering to get unless you practice things a lot

[steel bay]

I actually wanted to try speedrunning it myself. Should I ask in the speedrunning room?

[untold elm]

yeah

I cant remember much specific about it since I havent actually speedrun in a long time

[steel bay]

Awesome. Thanks so much for the help

[zealous pollen]

Has anyone from the mod community ever looked into fixing some of the 1.2.2.1 issues with mods? Speedrunners still use this version a lot, but the are locks like Soul Warrior not loading if you pick Desolate Dive first, or the HK infinite loading Vys had twice this week. I am not a low level or C programmer, but my understanding is that maybe a mod could fix this?

[elfin jasper]

You answered your own question. 1.2.2.1 is used almost exclusively by speedrunners, who don't use mods in speedruns.

[zealous pollen]

Well, true that. But suppose someone could Speedrun without crashes and soft locks. Speedrun rules are created by the community. So supposedly the rules could change or an exception for one mod could be made.

[real jacinth]

mods change how the game runs

[zealous pollen]

My question is mainly about feasibility. If this is feasible, benefits could be considered.

[real jacinth]

almost no games allow modifying the game for runs

even installing the API mod base that we have changes how the cursor acts

[zealous pollen]

yeah, agreed. It would not be something with the API mod.

I mean, patching a game is changing the assembly binary, right? If I got the theory correctly, a very small patch could be made to fix a major bug that kill runs, right? TBH, the only way to make sure the game is actually the correct version would be to checksum all the binaries, which no one does anyway today.

[real jacinth]

doesn't matter. rules for speedrunning are that you run on an unmodified game

no matter how shit the base game is

the only exception we have is a mod that only touches the load times and adds a flat 1s

but that doesn't touch anything else about the game

[zealous pollen]

ok, that's good to know. thanks

[earnest talon]

Ah, excuse me, but I'm new here-- just found the discord today. How or where would I go about installing the randomizer mod(s)?

[daring peak]

download the modinstaller

check pins

[earnest talon]

right, I did that

[daring peak]

install modcommon and randomizer 2

the api should be automatically downloaded

((this is done by opening the installer))

[earnest talon]

Oh, does the installer already have the current randomizers?

oh! I see

That's a lot simpler than I thought

[safe canopy]

theres a beta version in randomizer-races

[earnest talon]

I don't actually see ModCommon, though?

[real jacinth]

should be installed automatically

since it's a dependency

[earnest talon]

Um. The options on starting don't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Namely I'm not sure what the Restrictions and Required Skips toggles do

[daring peak]

leave all required skips off unless you're very familiar with the game

restrictions make black egg temple closed until you complete them

[earnest talon]

Ah, I see

thanks

...there is a bonfire mod to give you RPG stats

I love this

[novel bronze]

does mooding delete the original save files?

[safe canopy]

no

[novel bronze]

really?

[safe canopy]

shouldn't do anything

some mods are destructive and will make permanent changes to your saves

but otherwise should work as normal

[novel bronze]

wichones are the destructives

[earnest talon]

Things I am learning: it is easy to get stuck and the Bench Warp mod makes getting out essential

[safe canopy]

the infinite charm mod is

I dunno off the top of my head which ones are

I'd just make a backup

[novel bronze]

how do you make the backup?

[west bane]

assuming you have steam and default saves, https://puu.sh/DQ351/e04ac3cd4e.png

copy those and just rename the 1 to a 2

or whatever save slot you want it in

[novel bronze]

ok

thanks

[gloomy tendon]

Does having only the Modding API installed change anything at all in relation to Soul, Soul Vessels, healing, and/or Quick Focus specifically?

I'm getting a healing-based issue that I've never encountered before, but I'm not sure if it's because I installed the API recently (I don't have any mods installed currently though) or because I'm doing Godhome (which I've never done before)

Just want to make sure this isn't an API thing before I ask in #hk-help

[uncut galleon]

no i dont think so

im having trouble getting Randomiser v2 by seanpr working

idk if its just me

[elfin jasper]

install seanprcore

[uncut galleon]

thanks

what does seanprcore do?

[elfin jasper]

It's a library used by some mods, including randomizer

It doesn't do anything on its own

[uncut galleon]

ok

ono seanprcore doesnt load

[elfin jasper]

Are you on patch 1432, with api version 51?

[uncut galleon]

latest evverything

im on 1432 with api universal 1432

[versed needle]

It won't show as loaded because it's not a mod

[uncut galleon]

oh

do i still put it in the mods folder?

oh nvm

im an idiot

[tawny carbon]

same

[graceful elm]

Hey all!

There seems to be adifference between randomizer 2, as installed by the modinstaller, and the one on git, linked by @elfin jasper.

I'm pretty interested in trying a random run with relics, masks, keys, and eggs, if possible.

Is there a link to a compiled version with all items randomized?

Thanks again.

[west bane]

#randomizer 📌

but i believe that one is now live nvm that's just the tracker

[graceful elm]

I think I found it?
"itemrandomizer 2.8.1" pinned in races?

[west bane]

if that's the one pinned then yeah

[rare mauve]

Can ya help me find the infinste notches mod and how to install it i wanna experiment

[west bane]

#archived-modding-help 📌

mod installer

[magic notch]

Hello everybody, i'm a new memeber, hopefully this is the right channel for my question.
I'd like to start experimenting a bit with modding, by following the guide at https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html (hopefully it's not outdated).
But right off the bat i've encountered a little problem, i'm probably just missing something realy obvious, in the beginning you can find this: "To install mods that use the modding API you first need to install the Modding API from the the google drive or build it yourself.". I might just be a little blind, but i can't seem to find the Google-Drive link, what am i missing? Thanks in advance for you troubles

[west bane]

are you using the mod installer

[rare mauve]

where do i ge the mod installer

[west bane]

ZaliantToday at 4:59 AM
#archived-modding-help 📌
mod installer

[rare mauve]

i use windows

[magic notch]

sorry @west bane were you asking me if i use the mod installer?

[west bane]

yeah

[magic notch]

Oh, nope, I tought the mod installer was just a UI to make mods installation easier, so it servers othe purposes beside that

[west bane]

it's an all in 1

manager installer updater

the modding API will always automatically be kept up to date and there's no further maintenance needed there

[magic notch]

fantastic, thank you very much, i'll work my way from there

[west bane]

a summary of the mods and what they do on the installer can also be found in the 📌 of this ch

[rare mauve]

Ok i downloaded a rar of the mods... where do i put the mod

And cna i eat kt

[west bane]

use the installer

[rare mauve]

I dont know where to get the installer i can tfind it

I do have a rar for a mod tho

[west bane]

in the pins of this channel.

[rare mauve]

It says macos im windows qnd theres no link

[west bane]

have you tried reading past the first one?

[rare mauve]

LOL ITS ICON IS ZOTE

Ok i installed the mod and its enabled it says so i laod a save and test?

Watch the HK die in half a minute

[safe canopy]

If it says its enabled it probably works

Unless its an outdated mod

[rare mauve]

Ccook some nice ol HK meat to eat

[hoary aspen]

Hey, how can I edit sprites in the game?

[west bane]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lx02_w9TFTYdR3aggI1gbXcLr69roaNV?usp=sharing

[hoary aspen]

No but like

Actually edit them in the game

[west bane]

you have to edit them outside the game and then install them with custom knight

[hoary aspen]

I thought custom knight only edits the sprites for the knight

[west bane]

it does, that's what usually people mean when they say it, i wouldn't know outside of that

56 would know as he's worked with sprites before, i think

[safe canopy]

Just replace the texture on the game object you want to change

[hoary aspen]

I'm gonna need help with more than that

[west bane]

753 has some stuff in #archived-modding-development 📌 about asset manager which i assume is what you'll need to do

[hoary aspen]

I don't know how to extract and then insert

[safe canopy]

Theres a sprite dumper

And also asset explorer to extract

Then insertion is pretty simple, you can just look at custom knight for code

[hoary aspen]

is it the fsm dumper?

[safe canopy]

No that dumps fsms

Its called sprite dump

[hoary aspen]

I can't find it in pins

[safe canopy]

Its in the gdrive with the other mods

[hoary aspen]

I can't find where the sprites are being dumped though

[safe canopy]

In the save folder

[hoary aspen]

not there

[safe canopy]

You need to press a button, I forget which one

[hoary aspen]

f10

I pressed it

but still

[safe canopy]

I dunno, maybe you don't have the folder in your save folder and it can't make it

Does it lag when you press f10

[hoary aspen]

it does

[safe canopy]

So its trying to do it

[hoary aspen]

am i supposed to create a folder or something?

[safe canopy]

It should make it itself

sprites iirc

You could check with dnspy

[hoary aspen]

Are you sure it's supposed to dump them at the save folder?

[safe canopy]

Check dnspy it'll give you the folder

[safe canopy]

Persistent data path is the save folder

[rare mauve]

I madd a video about a mod; and demonstrated how it would work for educational purposes. I put the link to the modinstaller in my description.. is that allowed?

[unique rover]

I regularly link to the modinstaller and discord in my video descriptions for modded stuff, so should be.

[novel bronze]

uhh so how do i edit someones dialogue, like elderbug, or zote

[glass meteor]

https://radiance.host/apidocs/Hooks.html#languagegethook

[novel bronze]

yea thx lovelove

[tiny blade]

thx ur angel

[normal pike]

what do i edit to change sanic mods timescale from 1.5x speed to 2x speed?

[novel bronze]

hey guys how can I change the timescale from 1.5 times speed to 2 times speed in sanic mods?

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

[glass meteor]

There's a config file in your saves folder

Sanic.GlobalSettings.json

There's a number there to change

[novel bronze]

I can't find it

Can you help me through TeamViewer?

Thanks

[glass meteor]

I don't have that installed

Hit windows+r

%appdata%

paste that

[novel bronze]

Ok

[glass meteor]

actually

"%appdata%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight"

[novel bronze]

It says not available

it says it might be my internet connection

I will restart my router 1 sec

[glass meteor]

that's not how that works

don't do that

[novel bronze]

oh sorry

im kinda new to all this

haha

i'll try reinstalling my game

maybe that's why

to make sure the files are there

reinstalling 1 sec

[glass meteor]

wait no don't do that either

[crystal knot]

56, don't bother with him

i invited him, he is just trolling

[glass meteor]

oh

[crystal knot]

i tell you to not do anything shady and

[glass meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/588131423886770210.png?v=1

[real jacinth]

People not unhiding folders

SMH my head

[uncut galleon]

the seanpr randomiser mod doesnt work i have seanpr core, latest version of hk and the latest api

[glass meteor]

are the api and rando in the top left

[uncut galleon]

yea

[glass meteor]

what isn't working

[uncut galleon]

the randomiser mod

[glass meteor]

thank you very helpful

[uncut galleon]

seanpr told me the core says failed to load bcuz its mot a mod

[normal pike]

Which version are you using

[glass meteor]

it doesn't fail to load it just doesn't show up

[normal pike]

If you want the latest one

[uncut galleon]

oh

[normal pike]

Go to the pins in rando races

Download it straight from there

The drive

[uncut galleon]

k that might help

[elfin jasper]

that one is probably quite outdated

[uncut galleon]

is there a special place i put the randomiser or just put it in th e mods folder

[west bane]

just add it to the installer if you're using the installer if you're not using the installer then use the installer

[normal pike]

@elfin jasper the drive one is outdated?

Or are you saying Mono’s might be outdated

Sorry for ping

[river vortex]

Does anybody know a mod that JUST increases health and nothing else?

So people who suck arse can still have fun xD

(I admit without shame.. I suck but I love the game itself and want to actually be able to play and experience it... I am using the invincibility mod, but I ... want to actually play, but, I also want more health)

[tawny carbon]

it is an easy task for a modder to do that

you can ask one for it

[river vortex]

I should, yeah

If there are active ones

Mostly, I just want more health so I can explore and get better at the game without throwing my controller xD

[tawny carbon]

dammit

[wide rampart]

wyd sugar

[tawny carbon]

i was gonna do @ Modding Staff

[river vortex]

The invincability mod does allow me to explore, but I still want some challenge too

[tawny carbon]

ask a modder

[river vortex]

Do modders frequent this channel?

What I am hoping for... is something that'll make it possible for me to play, while taming it down enough for somebody who is as terrible as I am xD

If I knew how I'd just do it myself but me plus modding means infinite confusion and broken game xD

[wide rampart]

debug mod

[river vortex]

(I'm not very smart, admittedly, but I try)

[tawny carbon]

modders are active yes

[river vortex]

Do you know which modders would be willing to make a mod like this for me?

(New to all this LOL)

[tawny carbon]

@river vortex sean

seanpr

[river vortex]

Do I tag or DM them or just wait for them to pop in here?

[tawny carbon]

@

wait him to be online

then

@

[river vortex]

Will do! I have an idea for the mod, just... no clue how to do it xD

[tawny carbon]

he has a blue name and a grey cat in the pfp

[normal pike]

Im fairly sure you can increase your health using QoL Json

Not sure if you can increase the base past 9 though

But Artha id rly recommend playing the game normally

Anyone can get the base game down with enough practice and it comes with a large sense of reward if you get it

[west bane]

Hey it’s me. Modding staff

[safe canopy]

No

[normal pike]

[west bane]

😔

[coral zenith]

it's me, i'm sir modding staff himself

[safe canopy]

ok buddy

[coral zenith]

ok buddy

[west bane]

Local mino turns into guy. More at 11

[cobalt imp]

Mino has acquired the power to genderbend at will.

[earnest talon]

Hm. I don't know if anyone here works on the Bonfire mod? But there's aspects that don't seem to be working. Is there a bug report or anything somewhere?

[coral zenith]

you could bother gradow

he's the unwilling father creator of bonfire

[earnest talon]

Alright, I'll keep an eye out for him

[coral zenith]

@runic oriole

[sleek tiger]

Bonfire isn't really kept up to date iirc

[real jacinth]

hey zote is back

[untold elm]

[wraith sable]

anyone know how to get/extract the game's sprites?

[real jacinth]

#art-discussion pins

[glass meteor]

;sprites

i swear that was a thing

[real jacinth]

;help

[novel bronze]

**Assets**

Assets can be found pinned here
You can get Asset Studio to get assets from the game files here
You can get UABE to directly edit assets here (but using a API mod is better)

[glass meteor]

gaming

[real jacinth]

hmm. that's not in the help list

incomplete command list. smh

[coral zenith]

smh

[glass meteor]

@wide rampart elderC

[tiny blade]

benji while you're here add elderC

[untold elm]

who made elderC

[tiny blade]

ax

[untold elm]

then you need ax's permission even if everybody knows ax doesnt care

[tiny blade]

oh my fucking goooooooooooooooooooooood

@safe idol do we have your blessing

[tiny blade]

brother we NEED your permission

[crystal hazel]

Is the Lightbringer mod outdated ?

[glass meteor]

Not if you use the API port

[crystal hazel]

Mh...Must be doing something wrong then.

[glass meteor]

are you using the installer?

[crystal hazel]

Tried. It didn't even detect th e installation folder. Don't react if I indicate it either.

Huh. I am indeed using the port. Yet the screen remains black.
Eh, still got the hollow mouse.

[glass meteor]

You have the API installed?

[crystal hazel]

Yep.

[glass meteor]

1.4.3.2?

[crystal hazel]

Ah, maybe the problem came from here.

[tidal thunder]

Can you use the mod installer if you got hollow knight of GOG galaxy?

[real jacinth]

yes

[tidal thunder]

yay

[earnest talon]

Okay, can someone help with an argument?

I am swearing up and down that collectable items like Wanderer Journals make a faint ringing sound, and others are saying it does not.

[coral zenith]

Is this perchance an argument with zaliant

[real jacinth]

this is #archived-modding-help discussion why?

[novel bronze]

@coral zenith how did you know

[earnest talon]

Because they said to ask here. [shrug]

[coral zenith]

@novel bronze i know everything, duh

I mean you could use dnspy and look at the code

[west bane]

i asked in a non modding channel cause it doesn't correspond to modding help

ok heck you you're right @earnest talon

[earnest talon]

Indeed.

[brisk warren]

is there a button for the debug tool to open a menu or something? I've installed it to start learning speedrunning but i don't quite know how to use it yet

[west bane]

f1

[real jacinth]

should be open by default

if nothing opened ever, it probably wasn't installed

[strange surge]

anyone knows if there is a boss randomizer?

[real jacinth]

there's not

[strange surge]

someone please make it

[real jacinth]

go for it

[strange surge]

I have no Idea how to program, but some day mabey

[real jacinth]

k. well then nobody will likely make it until then

[strange surge]

neat

[west bane]

just download omnes whatever and play the pantheons if that mod still works

[meager comet]

there's something in the randomizer guide that I don't understand

why isn't lumafly lantern considered some sort of key item

[real jacinth]

Because that version of randomizer doesn't require lantern to open gates

The beta version does however

[meager comet]

yea the current version definitely has outcomes that require it

[real jacinth]

Like....

Current being the one on the installer?

[meager comet]

no talking about the one from #randomizer

i mean i also don't know all of the skips

so i don't know for sure if it's required

[real jacinth]

Dark rooms are part of skips

[meager comet]

well you can't use the dark room to crystal peak without the lantern because of the toll

i know the rest are possible to navigate

but not for me XD

[real jacinth]

Dive gets you there

But yes. Randomizing lantern requires you to have it to get into CP

Unless you have dive

[meager comet]

also why does the guide suggest to get the journal if it isn't a possible key item drop?

[real jacinth]

What journal

[meager comet]

hunter's journal

or does it mean wanderer's journal?

k definitely means wanderer's

still confusing

[real jacinth]

What guide are you referencing?

[meager comet]

the one on src

[elfin jasper]

All the guides on src are out of date

The rainingchain guide is extremely out of date

[meager comet]

xephros pointed me towards this

is there any resource that isn't out of date?

[real jacinth]

Could you link what you're reading

[meager comet]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/ghb3u

[real jacinth]

I don't know that the guide on SRC references picking up any journals

[meager comet]

the raining chain that homothety was referencing

[real jacinth]

yeah, that's for 2.0 that's on the installer

[meager comet]

it says it under greenpath

[elfin jasper]

Are you sure it's for 2.0 Mick?

[real jacinth]

that's what it was made for, but it's still out of date

[elfin jasper]

I wouldn't be surprised if it were for rando 1 lol

[real jacinth]

he did update his logic page though

for 2.0

[elfin jasper]

Yeah, that is true

[real jacinth]

the one where you click what you have

but this does not at all apply to the beta build by homothety

I mean, the relic locations are still true

[elfin jasper]

There are no guides for this version outside of what you can see on the drive

[real jacinth]

and the journal being referenced is the one by greenpath stag behind the hidden wall

just for the geo that it gives

[elfin jasper]

Which makes sense given that everything is subject to change

[real jacinth]

^

guides will be made once it's done and released

[meager comet]

so yea the wandrer's journal

[elfin jasper]

But if you need help with item locations, feel free to use the map on rainingchain, I suppose it's better than nothing

[real jacinth]

I think the races discord typed up a txt with item locations

[meager comet]

there's a separate races discord server?

[real jacinth]

AshDaSmurf06/22/2019
so ill share this with everyone. i made a thing. i expect most people know where things are but i can be derpy and this helps in a co-op situation where you diont remember anything you found before your last check. make a copy if your going to use it but if you want to add something feel free. i have a clean copy and this is just a first draft
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sgFYp5HGT0sre5hMyzCKv805A6piLA5q3YGfbxR4Cq0/edit?usp=sharing

[meager comet]

while i have you guys is there any point to doing any of the dream bosses if you don't need essence?

[real jacinth]

only if the essence rewards from the seer aren't good

[meager comet]

they are not

[real jacinth]

if she has nothing, then no

[meager comet]

i'm not lost in this seed just figuring stuff out

i wanna be the noob bug tester if you will XD

of this beta i mean

[sour bluff]

Can I get support for installing the mod manager here?

[glass meteor]

yeah

[sour bluff]

Awesome. I had to reinstall the game, and the mod manager isn't picking it up. It won't start, since I have a custom Steam install location. Where can I override the locations it searches?

[glass meteor]

What does it say when you start the installer?

It should just let you do that

mine is on D:\ and X:\

[sour bluff]

It says "Unable to locate game files."

There's a little more, but you get the idea.

[glass meteor]

show picture

[sour bluff]

Oh!

Never mind

Found the file to edit it.

[glass meteor]

nice

[sour bluff]

was in Appdata/Local/Modinstaller

I figured it would have been in LocalLow where the game data is located.

[glass meteor]

yeah i know

i tested a bunch of the modinstaller versions

[sour bluff]

Jesus dude

I get the feel though

that's why Git is so nice

[glass meteor]

yeah

[sour bluff]

Branches and branches for days

but yeah, I play randomizer a bunch

need the extra save data and the randomizer mod

[meager comet]

wait why does leg eater only have two items

like it's okay cause i'm not stuck

[glass meteor]

random

[meager comet]

but it just seems weird

[glass meteor]

shops can have more/less items

total stays the same

[meager comet]

really i thought it was just trading within each drop

huh weird

[sour bluff]

anywho, thank you a bunch for the time 56, sorry for bugging you

[glass meteor]

[novel bronze]

can somebody send me a link to all hollow knight mods?

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

where do i put scenes?

[glass meteor]

nowhere

it is for modders

[novel bronze]

ok

do i need modding api

sry im new to hollow knight mods

[glass meteor]

yes

but just

use the installer

it does this for you

[novel bronze]

How can i install it manually

[glass meteor]

https://discordapp.com/channels/283467363729408000/462200562620825600/522234431809781790

[novel bronze]

I didnt find it in the drive

the modding api

[glass meteor]

any

[novel bronze]

thx

Enemy Randomizer Failed To Load

What should i do

[river vortex]

@versed needle Somebody mentioned to ping you to have you make a mod for me last night, or help me learn HOW to mod? I want something pretty simple

[coral zenith]

Seanpr is now moddings free real estate

[versed needle]

I'm not gonna make a mod for you

But if you still want it tomorrow, I'll help you out

It's 3am, going to sleep

[river vortex]

No problem if not, somebody just mentioned you xD

[novel bronze]

are there new customknight sprite packs? not the one that already exists

or just sprites from random users

[tawny carbon]

sean it wasnt a mod he just wanted to add more health

wtf

[novel bronze]

what should i do Enemy Randomizer doesnt work

[tawny carbon]

nothing

its outdated

also press the button left top

[novel bronze]

moth gang

[vague stump]

how do i get the randomizer to work

[novel bronze]

@tawny carbon No its crashing

[tawny carbon]

hmmm

as i said its outdated

it sometimes works?

i dont know what causes it to sometimes work and at other computers it doesnt

is your pc gud

@vague stump which randomizer ? radomizer 2 or enemy?

[novel bronze]

Does it work on your pc?

[tawny carbon]

hmm it did , but it was a while ago

my laptop is not good at all btw

[novel bronze]

Maybe i didnt update the game

[tawny carbon]

what ver

are you

on

rn

[novel bronze]

1.4.2.4

[tawny carbon]

wrong

1432

update

[novel bronze]

ok

[tawny carbon]

oh

you dont have the installer

im dumb

[vague stump]

aaa

[tawny carbon]

wut

[digital basin]

Hey guys, is it possible to mod on mac?

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd $(dirname
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[digital basin]

Thanks!

Is there any mods that allow for save states? I wanna practice the pantheon of hallownest

[untold elm]

you could just practice the bosses in hall of gods

[digital basin]

I don't think I have access to the absolute radiance

Or nkg

[untold elm]

if you have fought her in the pantheon at least once shes in the hall

[digital basin]

Oof never made it to her 😭

[untold elm]

you dont really need savestates to gitgud at the pantheons though

just do all the bosses that give you trouble in ascended

[digital basin]

Aight I'll try unlocking her

Ty for the help

[tawny carbon]

https://youtu.be/FFXnCESFDLU

@digital basin there is this too tho

[digital basin]

Ooo sick thanks will try

[tawny carbon]

[novel bronze]

Do i need modcommon to install enemy randomizer

?

[clever heart]

listen fellas im making a hollow knight minecraft mod

[untold elm]

how is this help?

[clever heart]

i need help

[coral zenith]

you'll get more help regarding making mods in #archived-modding-development

[clever heart]

thank you

[mighty cove]

where is the new randomizer mod that randomizes everything including rancid eggs? i looked through randomizer races and i cant find the download?

[buoyant plume]

it's pinned in #randomizer randomizer 2.8.1

[mighty cove]

i looked through all the pinned messages i cant find it

[buoyant plume]

there's 4 pins in there. second from the top

[sly garnet]

Does anyone know if the Fragile Strength for Nail Arts mod works for Unbreakable Strength as well?

[novel bronze]

Where can I find the glass soul mod?

[untold elm]

look in the pins of one of these channels

I cant remember which

[river vortex]

Hey is there a program I need to use to be able to change values in files? I tried note pad but it doesn't work xD

For the dll files

I was going to try to figure out how to make a mod myself, since I did mod Black and White 2 back in the day