archived-modding-help

[novel bronze]

does the mod version have to match the modding api version?

[versed needle]

The one without a version listed is the current one

[novel bronze]

they all have versions listed, unless I'm looking at a wrong google docs page

[novel bronze]

awesome

must have spent too long staring at the same thing

debug mode is now appearing

thanks @versed needle

now I'm just trying to figure out how to use debug mode. I can turn the menus off and on but can't seem to be able to access the killall/cheats/charms/skills/... menu.

[versed needle]

Pause the game and click them

[novel bronze]

well fuck

that was all?

Nice,

Thanks again for your time.

[runic oriole]

@devout olive enable steam controller

[stoic sleet]

So I'm trying to downpatch my game using the guide seanpr put out on the Speedrun.com guides section and when I put the command in steam says the command isn't found. Is there a new way to downpatch the game now?

[runic oriole]

show me the command you're using

[stoic sleet]

1.2.2.1: download_depot 367520 367521 648876203478229944

exact copy from the guide

[runic oriole]

remove everything before download

[stoic sleet]

Oh

[runic oriole]

that's just a reference for which command to use

[stoic sleet]

wait I'm an nidiot

thanks

[runic oriole]

np

[gloomy crater]

virus

[runic oriole]

Vmirus

[reef aurora]

....

skip?

[runic oriole]

yup, that's a skip

[runic oriole]

I don't get it

[reef aurora]

Verifying feasibility

[runic oriole]

but what's that got anything to do with Shade Soul?

that path has only a grub at the end

[reef aurora]

sly's key

[runic oriole]

oh

and you don't have claw

got it, you're doing the CP climb

ok

[reef aurora]

then buy another key to get Shade Soul

[runic oriole]

yeah

Elegant Key

[devout olive]

@runic oriole how do you do that?

[runic oriole]

what?

[devout olive]

enable the steam controller to fix the controller support going away

cause shes still able to use a controller in other games, such as super meat boy

its just hollow knight, after installing some mods

[runic oriole]

yeah, that's an issue with the API for lifeblood, no one quite knows why

it's fine on the beta patch tho

[reef aurora]

Vmirus 233

[devout olive]

shes asking what she's supposed to swap to

[runic oriole]

depends on which pad she's using

just choose that one imo

[devout olive]

so just xbox if xbox controller, and ps4 if ps4 controller?

[runic oriole]

pretty much

and generic if it's generic

[devout olive]

she said that didn't fix it

[devout olive]

she even said switching to the beta didn't help

[runic oriole]

Turn on generic pad and relaunch the game

That worked for me and another person

[stoic sleet]

So I downpatched my game to 1.2.2.1 and it runs smoothly. Then I used the mod installer to install the debug mod and now I'm getting this error

Any help?

[low heart]

it installs the 1.3.1.5 api

so of course it breaks

[stoic sleet]

Oh that would be it then

[low heart]

manually install the 1.2.2.1 api

then go from there

[glass meteor]

why downpatch to 1.2.2.1 tho

[stoic sleet]

Alright thanks ❤

[glass meteor]

bossrush?

[low heart]

but why downpatch

[glass meteor]

or nsoob or something

[stoic sleet]

Well I was thinking of starting speedrunning

and read that 1.2.2.1 is the patch to run it on

so I figured i'd also practice on 1.2.2.1

[low heart]

that makes sense

[glass meteor]

nmg uses 1.2.2.1 yeah

[low heart]

yep, get the 1.2.2.1 api from the drive

and debug mod

and good luck on it!

[stoic sleet]

Thanks! I'll go and try that out

[low heart]

and don't forget; if you need help with speedrunning you can always use the #speedrunning channel and get the speedrunner role for more in depth info channels

[stoic sleet]

Right I remember reading in the guide for NMG that you coulddo something like that

[low heart]

yep! it's handy all right and i'm sure the lads there would like to help ya out

[stoic sleet]

or does that not work

[glass meteor]

?rank speedrunner imo

[stoic sleet]

So on the drive i only see the debug for 1.1.1.8 and another one that doesn't even have a version labeled. should I use the 1.1.1.8?

[glass meteor]

the latest one is fine

[stoic sleet]

but will it work with the 1.2.2.1 game?

[glass meteor]

yes

[stoic sleet]

alright

I'm still getting the same crash

[glass meteor]

did you swap out your api version

[gloomy crater]

^

[stoic sleet]

If what you mean is get rid of the old debug mod api then yes I did

[stoic sleet]

Wait where'd you find that

those weren't there on the doc

[glass meteor]

api folder

wokest

[gloomy crater]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs

[stoic sleet]

Those are the only two that show up for me

[low heart]

that's modding api

not debug mod

[stoic sleet]

It's under the debug mod section though

[low heart]

you need the api to go with the debug mod

[stoic sleet]

[low heart]

ok

look

[noble basin]

also uh no promises that the api debug mod works 100% with the older modding api

[low heart]

go up one folder

and then go to

[glass meteor]

@noble basin it hasn't been updated since 1.2.2.1

big think

[low heart]

"modding api"

get the 1.2.2.1 version of that

install that

[noble basin]

didn't it get updated for lifeblood hp bars... by YOU @glass meteor

[glass meteor]

yeah but not in the drive

[noble basin]

lol

[low heart]

then get the api version of the debug mod

and there you go you win

[stoic sleet]

I dont see a "modding api" folder

[low heart]

wot

[stoic sleet]

or I'm blind as fuck

[noble basin]

well it starts with an S

for Seanpr

[glass meteor]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9X1ZrWGFxUGdydTg

[noble basin]

the person maintaining it

[low heart]

this folder doesn't exist

TIL

[stoic sleet]

I should rearrange my google docs, It was cutting the name off

[glass meteor]

set it to list mode

[stoic sleet]

couldn't see the "Modding API" portion

[low heart]

nice

you need the correct version of the modding api to go with the debug mod

in the pins there's a step by step guide on how to get it to work

[glass meteor]

you can just install debug mod from the installer

once you install the 1.2.2.1 api

tho

[stoic sleet]

ohhh

[low heart]

it installs the 1.3.1.5 api tho

[stoic sleet]

Installing the modding 1.2.2.1 api solved it

[glass meteor]

not if he already tried to install it

also that's bugged

[stoic sleet]

The game loads now

Hopefully with the debug mod on

[low heart]

if it's in the Mods folder it should pop up in the top left corner

[stoic sleet]

Yus it works

so 1.2.2.1 has a max completion percentage of 106% right?

[low heart]

yes

[stoic sleet]

What would happen if i load my save file with 107% completion on 1.2.2.1

[low heart]

it wouldn't count the additional %

[glass meteor]

it just ignores extra stuff

[stoic sleet]

Would it corrupt anything or mess anything up for when I switch back to current version?

[glass meteor]

shouldn't

[stoic sleet]

Okay so I'm completely safe to play on that? Cool

Thanks for all the help ❤ much love

[glass meteor]

[low heart]

you're welcome!

[stoic sleet]

One last question, Is there a guide anywhere so I can read all about the debugging mod? cause I clicked hide menu and now I can't figure out how to open it back up

[glass meteor]

f1

all the keybinds and stuff are in the keybinds section

[stoic sleet]

o ty

[glass meteor]

you can only press buttons when paused btw

menu buttons

keybinds work fine

[stoic sleet]

Does having left click as a attack not work? Cause it doesn't seem to be working

is left click bound to another thing?

[glass meteor]

it works fine

i use lmb as attack

[stoic sleet]

[glass meteor]

or it should at least

1.2.2.1 i just bound it to h and used a key remapper

[stoic sleet]

so it was already bound to lmb but I just rebound it and then it worked

weird

[glass meteor]

tc mouse binding code is terrible

try binding f5 in the keybindings section

[stoic sleet]

Lmao this mod is fun to play witch

with

no clip ftw

[glass meteor]

yeah definitely

[stoic sleet]

Alright this will really help me practice, Thanks for all the help in getting me set up for this, time for the grind

[manic minnow]

I just wanna get some info before I start using mods in HK. If I download the randomizer mod which is the main one I'm interested in, is it going to affect my main save file? If I go into my main file, will it affect anything? Do I have to start a new file for the things to take place? How do I disable mods if I don't want them anymore. There might be some more questions but I can't think of anything more off the top of my head

[glass meteor]

*affect

also no rando doesn't affect pre-existing files

you need to start a new save file for rando but not all mods

disabling mods can be done by just unchecking the box in the installer

some mods can be disabled in the in game options menu

[manic minnow]

How many more saves do you get with the more saves mod?

[noble basin]

INFINITE!

™

[glass meteor]

more saves doesn't work on 1.3.1.5 tho

only 1.2.2.1

[versed needle]

1.3.5.1

[glass meteor]

shit

[craggy dew]

Are their any mods that just add a health bar to the bosses?

[glass meteor]

enemy hp bars

adds bars to both

[craggy dew]

k thanks, where would i find that

[glass meteor]

installer

pins

[craggy dew]

thanks

[manic minnow]

Where is the mod logs file? Apparently I did something wrong when installing the randomizer mod

[glass meteor]

install modcommon

also in the saves folder

[real jacinth]

Install randomizer 2

[manic minnow]

I got everything working

Thanks for the help everyone!

[sturdy iron]

How to downgrade game so I can play boss rush

[real jacinth]

Speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides

[manic minnow]

What happens if I load up Hollow Knight on a computer without the mods?

[versed needle]

It won't have mods

[manic minnow]

but how will it affect the game/game files?

what if I load up the modded file?

[versed needle]

Changes that are supported by the base game save files will stick, everything else will not

[novel bronze]

is boss rush updated for 1.3.1.5?

[versed needle]

No and it's not going to be updated

[novel bronze]

how come?

[glass meteor]

gng boss rush

no point

[versed needle]

Also because KDT didn't even upload a working repository to github

So nobody else can update it if they wanted to

[iron lintel]

uhh, is there any way to figure out where the fuck the randomizer put a specific charm? i've got one missing and i can't figure out where the hell it could be.

uh. so after installing redwing i'm also not able to dash in whatever direction, and increased dashing distance w burning pride isn't working

so i figured alright, lemme uninstall all the mods and reinstall them

starting with the modding API and modcommon

but every other mod is now telling me that modcommon isn't installed

[low heart]

have you verified game integrity and gone from there

[iron lintel]

ah right. i'll try that.

thanks

now i'm getting a "the directory is not empty" unhandled exception when i try opening modinstaller. it was working fine before..

@runic oriole halp 😭

[low heart]

empty your mods folder

and let's go manual

there's a step by step guide in the pins, try following that

also https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs?usp=sharing here is a link to the google drive

[iron lintel]

hrm. i deleted the mods folder and that seems to have cleared it up.. i guess that's what it meant by the directory not being empty...

perhaps i'm more sleep deprived than i thought i was.

[low heart]

oh that works

[iron lintel]

yee

thanks for the assistance

is moresaves still busted, btw?

[low heart]

last time i heard that it still worked but i haven't heard of any updates so i'd say no

[iron lintel]

alrighty. thanks again~

sorry for the ping gradow or 56 or whatever you're calling yourself now

everything seems to be working as intended

[low heart]

you pinged gradow

and that's good

[iron lintel]

heck yea.

now time to restart the computer since it's running like molasses.

[eager hill]

Need help wtih RU translation for Blackmoth testing: I must see screenshots of acquiring Mothwing Cloak (dash) and Shadow Cloak (shadow dash). Important thing: text on screenshots must be in Russian

[sleek tiger]

can't you just look at the source code online?

lemme find

[eager hill]

You don`t understand. I must see how sentences look not in code strings, but in game

[sleek tiger]

You want to see how the Russian looks in game?

[eager hill]

How Russian looks in Blackmoth mod. I`ve recieved some screenshots, and now I want to check aquiring dash and shadow dash

I don`t have save file for tests - need to beat game from zero

[real jacinth]

There's save files on SRC

Just use those

[runic oriole]

I'll get you those Lich, as soon as I get some free time

Sorry

[vestal kelp]

ree redwing says mod api is too old but i got it from the drive

is the newest version not up yet

[noble basin]

try the universal modding api

it's slightly newer

or the mod installer

[glass meteor]

oh yeah I need to do the big text pr

[vestal kelp]

@noble basin so i got the beta and the new api

and the api doesn't work

do i need a beta redwing or modcommon

[noble basin]

what do you mean

you just download the api

[vestal kelp]

yes

[noble basin]

and replace the assembly-csharp with it

[vestal kelp]

yes

it's not detecting any api

[noble basin]

make sure you're on lifeblood beta first

[vestal kelp]

i am

no mods in the corner

no mods option in options

[noble basin]

after switching to lifeblood beta

[vestal kelp]

no redwing

[noble basin]

and only after switching

[vestal kelp]

yes

[noble basin]

you copy the file I sent

[vestal kelp]

i did it after switching

yes

[noble basin]

to Managed

not to mods

to managed

[vestal kelp]

yes

i replaced assembly-csharp

[noble basin]

try downloading it and replacing it again

[sturdy stirrup]

i just tried to install the lightbringer mod but when i launch the game the screen is just black with no sound playing at all but the fps counter says its running at 60 fps anyone knows why and how to fix it?

[noble basin]

did you use the mod installer @sturdy stirrup

and are you on lifeblood beta

[sturdy stirrup]

no

oh i need to be on beta?

[noble basin]

no

you need to be on regular

next question

did you download lightbringer

or lightbringer api

[vestal kelp]

well i replaced it again

it works but it says it's on the blackmoth version and i have shadowdash

[sturdy stirrup]

i downloaded lightbringer from https://www.moddb.com/mods/hollow-knight-lightbringer/downloads/hollow-knight-lightbringer

[vestal kelp]

is this normal

[noble basin]

NO WRONG BAD WHITEFOX

use the modinstaller

[sturdy stirrup]

ok where do i find that?

[noble basin]

it's in the pins

first link

[sturdy stirrup]

ok

[noble basin]

@vestal kelp it means you have blackmoth installed

[vestal kelp]

but i don't

🤔

[noble basin]

screenshot

modlog

something

pls

[vestal kelp]

fuck where is modlog

[noble basin]

in your saves folder

[vestal kelp]

uhhh fuck where is saves folder

[noble basin]

also in the pins

at the bottom

or on the pc gaming wiki

[sturdy stirrup]

ok so i just run the modinstaller (it does not need to be in any specific folder)?

[noble basin]

yes

[sturdy stirrup]

ok thats super easy to use thanks for the help 😃

[vestal kelp]

dab

[noble basin]

btw

installing that old lightbringer messed up your hk files

so I hope you verified your game cache

[vestal kelp]

i did

[noble basin]

before running the mod installer

not you dungo

[vestal kelp]

oh fuck

[noble basin]

whitefox

[vestal kelp]

hhhh

[sturdy stirrup]

will do right now

[noble basin]

it didn't load blackmoth at all can you send a screenshot @vestal kelp

[vestal kelp]

of what

[noble basin]

ur menu

with the mods in the top left

[vestal kelp]

h

[noble basin]

that's not blackmoth

[vestal kelp]

i don't have blackmoth

[noble basin]

exactly

everything looks normal to me

[vestal kelp]

i still have shade dash when i start ree

[noble basin]

ofc you do

how else would trails work

[vestal kelp]

the normal dash

or no dash until you get the normal dash

[noble basin]

well it's not like shade cloak is useless

it actually unlocks something pretty important

anyway you know it started out as an addon for blackmoth and because of that it has a little bit in common with it in so far as the dashing is concerned

you can disable Greymoth and in theory everything should work

but there's a good chance doing that will break stuff because of the way the modding api is programmed

and it will definitely make it harder

and you won't be able to use one of the fire attacks

so overall would not recommend

(You could also install shitmothst for even bigger memes)

[vestal kelp]

now native controller input isn't working

wonderful

[noble basin]

huh

ok

I blame windows because native controller works for me on the beta

but didn't on the regular version

[vestal kelp]

i turn it on, restart hk and then it says it's off and my controller doesn't do anything

i want to die

joy2key it is

[noble basin]

sc-controller

[vestal kelp]

fuck this isn't working

guess i'm learning keyboard until this is fixed

[daring peak]

hi learning keyboard until this is fixed

[noble basin]

sounds like a problem with your controller tbh

if joy2key isn't working I mean

or maybe your software that isn't HK

[vestal kelp]

joy2key did work it just doesn't pick up my trigger inputs

and it works fine with other games

fuck it's a mod's fault

modders pls fix

and now api isn't working again

absolute ree

@noble basin ur api is gay and not working again send hlep

[noble basin]

compile your own

idk

what do you want me to do about it

[vestal kelp]

dunno

[versed needle]

It works fine, you're doing something wrong

[vestal kelp]

i must be

i'm just replacing assembly-csharp

[noble basin]

works on my machine ™

[glass meteor]

are you using the windows one tho

didn't the universal one break native or something

[noble basin]

did it

and nobody fucking told me

even though I asked people

to check if it had any problems

no

[vestal kelp]

i am using universal

[noble basin]

I'm not taking responsibility for this one

[vestal kelp]

but windows doesn't work on beta

[noble basin]

y'all need to update the api to 44

and goddamn it nobody else was gonna do it

the drive api was still on 41

[glass meteor]

I compile my own API idk

[noble basin]

same

[vestal kelp]

and i have to use beta because native controller input ree

[glass meteor]

[vestal kelp]

w h a t d o

[glass meteor]

are you even using the beta api

[vestal kelp]

i'm using the one angle gave me

that he said was api

[glass meteor]

thou art large dungo probably

[vestal kelp]

he said it was beta dunno

[glass meteor]

[noble basin]

no for once ban isn't a large dungo

[glass meteor]

wtf

[noble basin]

but

[glass meteor]

impossible

[noble basin]

I know

crazy

[vestal kelp]

[glass meteor]

x to doubt

[noble basin]

56 send ur built api

[glass meteor]

not at home ree

also I don't use beta

[vestal kelp]

i think i'm doing something dungo i just have no idea what it is

[noble basin]

no I mean send him ur non-beta version

and have banan switch to not beta

and also upload that version to the drive

as modding api universal

[vestal kelp]

i can't switch to not beta

native controller input doesn't work for my controller there

[glass meteor]

also does it still say whatever the latest beta version is in the bottom left

[noble basin]

I built it for 1.3.3.7

but your milage may vary

[glass meteor]

hómōsēxūāl

but also ok

@vestal kelp e

[vestal kelp]

e

[glass meteor]

answer when

[vestal kelp]

oh

[noble basin]

/həʊməʊsɛkʃuəl/

[vestal kelp]

bottom left of hk?

[glass meteor]

u

yes

[vestal kelp]

1.3.3.7

h

[glass meteor]

did it work on the beta before

[vestal kelp]

yeah

but i verified files and reinstalled api and now its gay

[glass meteor]

is it still on the beta branch

[vestal kelp]

yeah

[glass meteor]

ree

why do you need native tho

[noble basin]

he just needs a version of modding api that's 44 and up

and nobody else was building any

so

wtf am I to do

[glass meteor]

use ur vm that doesn't exist

idk

[vestal kelp]

56 get at home faster

[noble basin]

def don't have either the ram or storage for a vm on this pc

[glass meteor]

banana build your own api

[vestal kelp]

i have no idea how

[glass meteor]

download vs

download modding api

[vestal kelp]

tf is vs

[glass meteor]

copy managed folder in (once you've verified) as Vanilla

hit build

visual studio

[vestal kelp]

ech

what

[noble basin]

the left one

[vestal kelp]

this is fuck i'll just wait till later when stuff actually exists

[glass meteor]

i would've sent it to you rn but I didn't bother setting up SSH cause :effort:

[vestal kelp]

angle's api is fuck and he should feel bad

[glass meteor]

my api isn't even beta tho

also why do you need native reeeee

[vestal kelp]

dunno what that means tbh

[glass meteor]

big think

my api is 1.3.1.5

and why tf do you need native controller input

[vestal kelp]

because this new controller doesn't work without it

it doesn't even work with it when i'm not on the beta

[glass meteor]

wtf

what controller is it

[vestal kelp]

dunno

[glass meteor]

[vestal kelp]

a ps4 controller i bought that my computer thinks is xbox for some gay reason

[glass meteor]

get ds4remap or whatever imo

https://github.com/Jays2Kings/DS4Windows/releases

[vestal kelp]

no u

[glass meteor]

try that

[vestal kelp]

but no

[glass meteor]

but yes

[vestal kelp]

i'll just try again on the current not beta

[glass meteor]

ok

that's literally designed to make PS4 controllers work tho

[vestal kelp]

h

[noble basin]

regardless of which one you try on

you're probably gonna need that tool

[vestal kelp]

the controller works when i don't have mods installed

🤔

the worst thing is it was literally working before

like

controller with mods

and now it decided to gay

[glass meteor]

D S 4 W I N D O W S

[versed needle]

Wow dark souls 4 I thought they stopped at 3

[glass meteor]

bloodborne is just dark souls 4

[vestal kelp]

yeah controller stops on old version re

@glass meteor tbh ds4windows not working

[glass meteor]

homosexual

[vestal kelp]

correct

[noble basin]

are you sure your controller is working properly at this point

[vestal kelp]

yep

it works fine on other games and when mods don't exist

[glass meteor]

try rebinding the controls

in the menu

maybe

[vestal kelp]

i have tried that

[glass meteor]

does it bind tho

or does it just not register anything

[vestal kelp]

when the controller doesn't work?

when i have mods on or when i'm not using beta it just doesn't detect a controller

[glass meteor]

idk

try plugging in the controller after the game starts idk

[vestal kelp]

h

[low heart]

does it appear in windows' native controllers setup

[vestal kelp]

yes

and it works for other games

hk is just bad

[low heart]

tried enabling beta controls?

[vestal kelp]

that's what i'm struggling with reee

the native controller input only works for my controller on the beat

beta

so i have to use beta

but the api on the beta

is gay

and doesn't work

[glass meteor]

set your controller as a PS4 controller in windows

maybe

idk

[low heart]

i thought AA made a make do modding api for it

[glass meteor]

nice grammar

[vestal kelp]

they did

and that's the gay one

[noble basin]

idk that it's bad

considering every controller program you have tried

has not worked

seems like ur bad ban

[glass meteor]

I can compile one but I doubt it'll change anything

cause aa said the dlls are all the same now

[low heart]

it's worth trying

[noble basin]

ye

pls do try

[glass meteor]

ok

just got home

[vestal kelp]

joy2key did work but it didn't pick up my trigger inputs which i need for dash and cdash

ds4windows just didn't detect my controller at all

its true

it was cheap as fuck

which probably explains it

[glass meteor]

not as cheap as mine

but mine works

[vestal kelp]

mine was like 20 bucks

and it works great when it actually works

[glass meteor]

mine was like 20 but the bottom dpad button didn't work so it was free

[vestal kelp]

so no regrets

[glass meteor]

and then i fixed the dpad button myself

[vestal kelp]

lmao

nice

[glass meteor]

beta, right?

@vestal kelpana

[vestal kelp]

yes

[noble basin]

y'all are making me happy for my steam controller

[glass meteor]

my controller is great tho

i just hate controllers

for most games

[vestal kelp]

controller > keyboard commit the death

[glass meteor]

kb+m

steam ui doing a big think

[vestal kelp]

controller > keyboard > everything else > keyboard and mouse

[glass meteor]

dieth

you see

kb+m is better cause it is

simple

[vestal kelp]

thank you i see now

[vestal kelp]

h

[glass meteor]

ahhh

my rider settings are bad again

it wants me to use var

[versed needle]

Just make everything a byte[]

[glass meteor]

where does mingw install to

cause i have it bundled with a program

but nothing can find git anyways

[versed needle]

Idk good question

I moved it a while ago

Don't remember the original location

[glass meteor]

C:\Program Files (x86)\cmder\vendor\git-for-windows

good git location

tf

[versed needle]

Nice

[glass meteor]

the file doesn't even show any errors

is my ide high

[versed needle]

I think it doesn't like the

if (X is Y z)

syntax

But that's perfectly valid C#

[glass meteor]

yeah

[versed needle]

Idk try changing it to this form

if ((Y z = (x as Y)) != null)

[glass meteor]

what the fuck

[versed needle]

Maybe it would like it more

Yes it's hideous

But should be equivalent

[vestal kelp]

fift si x give api

[glass meteor]

i think it has the wrong language version

says a get or set accessor expected

[versed needle]

fift si x

Wow doesn't like expression bodies either

[vestal kelp]

fift si x

[glass meteor]

excuse me wtf

oh

maybe i don't have .net 3.5

@vestal kelp i gtg i'll try again later

[vestal kelp]

H

stop being homosexual

[glass meteor]

u

maybe my msbuild is wrong idk

[normal pike]

Does Hell Mod work on Lifeblood?

[glass meteor]

yeah

[daring peak]

meme

[noble basin]

ok

[low heart]

there you go then

[glass meteor]

yeah it was my ms build

i had msbuild 14 and i needed 15

[normal pike]

oh shoot

i think i installed HP bar incorrectly

it doesn't seem to be working on any bosses

[gloomy crater]

enemyhpbar imo

[normal pike]

is that a diff mod?

[glass meteor]

it's the updated version

which also has bars for enemies instead of just for bosses

[normal pike]

oh

i can't find it in the modding folder

[glass meteor]

have u tried

i n s t a l l e r

[normal pike]

i have not actually

is it in the pins

indeedd it is

thanky ma'am

[glass meteor]

ma'am

die

[normal pike]

:^(

[glass meteor]

more like

[runic oriole]

ma'am 56

[glass meteor]

reeeeeee

[normal pike]

for infinite grimm

do you need to be at grimm

or does it just start you there?

[noble basin]

you need to fight regular NKG

and get yourself a level 4 grimmchild

and then you unlock infinite grimm

and you know you have it unlocked because the tent will still be in town

[normal pike]

ok cool

is the same for Nightmare God Grimm?

[glass meteor]

ngg isn't updated for 1.3.1.5 but infinitegrimm has an ngg mode

go to your saves folder and edit the settings file and set ngg true

[noble basin]

also NGG once you kill normal NKG you cannot access

[glass meteor]

what

[noble basin]

which is the opposite of infinite grimm

yes

if you read the source code

for the original NGG

that doesn't even work on lifeblood btw

[glass meteor]

no i meant that sentence was confusing as shit

[noble basin]

sorry

I meant the original NGG, not my mod's ngg

[normal pike]

what does QoL do? i looked through modding for its readme but couldnt find it

[glass meteor]

you can skip all cutscenes

[noble basin]

quality of life stuff

[glass meteor]

can bind side mouse buttons

menu drop

storage

[vestal kelp]

56 ur api doesnt work

[glass meteor]

a few other things

[vestal kelp]

re

[glass meteor]

ffs

[noble basin]

like skipping cutscenes, binding mice buttons, reintroducing bugs

you know

[glass meteor]

i can't live without menu drop

tyvm

[vestal kelp]

reintroducing bugs

woke

[glass meteor]

menu drop big bug

[vestal kelp]

menu drop is gay

[glass meteor]

die

[noble basin]

you can toggle them tho

[glass meteor]

do you like waiting 80 seconds to drop down to the mantis arena

[vestal kelp]

yes

[glass meteor]

[noble basin]

the mantis area wouldn't take 80 seconds to drop to if you hadn't spawned the player so high up in mantis gods

[vestal kelp]

to be tbh api is gay

[noble basin]

to be tbh

[glass meteor]

i don't

[vestal kelp]

yes

[glass meteor]

i don't even mess with player spawns

you just drop in from the normal transitions

or dgate which is the sane reasonable thing to do

[normal pike]

menu drop?

is that like

[noble basin]

open menu while falling

[normal pike]

opening the menu

[glass meteor]

hit inventory while falling

[noble basin]

it was a bug

[normal pike]

ok yeah

[noble basin]

in 1.2

and earlier

[glass meteor]

it disables the fall acceleration cap

and disables hard fall

[normal pike]

that used to be a speedrunning thing right

[glass meteor]

it's great

more like

still is

[normal pike]

oh

[glass meteor]

speedrunners just downpatch

[normal pike]

ah right

[glass meteor]

no one runs on lifeblood cause it's shit for everything

[vestal kelp]

big gay

[normal pike]

if i downpatch

but don't open old saves

will they be unaffected?

[glass meteor]

yeah

[normal pike]

cool

kinda wanna do boss rush

[glass meteor]

new saves shouldn't be affected anyway i think

boss rush is great

highly recommend it

[vestal kelp]

yeah gng is great

so glad it's out

[normal pike]

xd

is there already a downpatch tutorial somewhere?

[glass meteor]

https://speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides

[normal pike]

damn enemy hp bar is clean af

[glass meteor]

yeah

[normal pike]

does QoL do anything to salubra?

[glass meteor]

yes

makes salubra's blessing shut

[vestal kelp]

u

you're mod in #archived-modding-help tbh be honest

[glass meteor]

ok

[normal pike]

omg

golden

[glass meteor]

?

@vestal kelp .

[normal pike]

enemyHPbar works on prelifeblood right

[glass meteor]

maybe idk

hpbars works prelifeblood for sure if you just want bosses for boss rush

[normal pike]

kk

also uh

should i go for 1.2.2.1

[glass meteor]

yeah

[normal pike]

or 1.2.1.4

ok

[glass meteor]

1.2.2.1

[normal pike]

wait so

i entered this command into my console

1.2.2.1: download_depot 367520 367521 648876203478229944\

minus the slash

where did it download the files to?

[glass meteor]

it'll tell you when it's done

it'll say downloaded to xyz

[normal pike]

uhhhhhhh

i dont have anything wat

it went through the thing

[glass meteor]

it takes a while

[normal pike]

i had download bar

and it got to 100% and closed

after like 10m

[glass meteor]

download bar what

show

[normal pike]

is there a place it generalyl goes to

it closed but like

wait

im a literal dumbfuck

the "download bar" was me copying my old game files

to a backup

nice nice

[glass meteor]

nice job

[normal pike]

not sleeping for 40 hours is close to being high tbh

[glass meteor]

i've pulled an all nighter once and pain

anyways go to the console and just wait tbh

[normal pike]

1 night? smh

yeah i got it working now

thanks for all the help

you werent kidding this is quite a bit

i wish there was a progress bar

[glass meteor]

you can check if it's working in the downloads section of steam

not much else tho

[normal pike]

in library?

[glass meteor]

yeah

[normal pike]

does this mean it's working?

[glass meteor]

yeah

[normal pike]

ok cool

how do i know how close it is to finishing?

[glass meteor]

you don't

[normal pike]

yeet

it won't matter if i play HK during it then right

[versed needle]

Depends on if your settings allow downloads during play

[normal pike]

ok

so basically if i can play then it means i'm good

like if i can open HK

?

[versed needle]

That's not what I said

[normal pike]

oops

[normal pike]

ok thx

and so i just replace my old Hollow_Knight_Data with the new one?

[glass meteor]

yeah iirc

[normal pike]

kk

[cobalt blaze]

Hey guys

someone is at the point of the game where only one upgrade is missing to the nail

I just get the achievement of happy and foundd out has another when you kill the nail master

And I didn't save one copy

[normal pike]

i did the purity/couple achievements on diff profiles

that prob isnt a modding question though

[versed needle]

You're gonna have to play the game again for the speedrun achievements anyway

[normal pike]

might want to use #hk-help

^^

speaking of mod questions

anyone know how to deal with this?

i downgraded, replaced my hollow_knight_data, and got this

[cobalt blaze]

@versed needle but I I'll have no time for this

[normal pike]

i then deleted my Hollow Knight registry

[versed needle]

You will have time

[normal pike]

but still got the error

[versed needle]

100% in 20 hours and any% in 5 hours are incredibly lenient

[normal pike]

@cobalt blaze dw dude it's not too hard if u use a guide

[versed needle]

You need to replace your game exe too

[normal pike]

ah shit ok

ty sean

[cobalt blaze]

@normal pike yeah, I need play the whole again

thank and sorry to come here

[normal pike]

that's correct, there's no way around it if u want all the achievements

thx for all the help sean

[cobalt blaze]

I was hoping that they would send the file to me by email

[normal pike]

oh shoot i cant do steel soul anymore after reverting

does it undo my achievements?

double shoot

after reinstalling API

with ModInstaller

*Mod Manager

it's crashing on open

i can put the crash report here

[glass meteor]

install the 1.2.2.1 api from the drive manually

[normal pike]

kk

[glass meteor]

installer just installs the latest one

[normal pike]

so i'll also have to manually uninstall the new API i just put in right

does anyone have a link to API 1.2.2.1?

[glass meteor]

it's in the gdrive

[normal pike]

kk

weird

boss rush has been working mostly well but once in a while

its framerate drops to like 5

until i die then it's fine

[glass meteor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal pike]

rip i guess

[reef aurora]

Have someone play the Randomizer v2b.4? The map can't be loaded.

Before you get Vengeful Spirit

[versed needle]

@reef aurora This is due to a change in ModCommon, but I cannot fix it currently because my visual studio doesn't load the ModCommon assembly correctly

Tomorrow I'm gonna try compiling it myself to see if that makes it work

[sleek tiger]

hey, Sean

Randomizer set all doors to open, right?

[versed needle]

No, why would it do that?

[sleek tiger]

in order for you to not get softlocked?

I dunno, I think there was some mod that opened all doors

[versed needle]

That's non-trivial to do

Every door would have to be individually opened

[sleek tiger]

I'm just trying to set doors to open for my mod, because right now, without the enemies you need to kill, most challenge places that lock you in are basicalyl softlocks

[versed needle]

You can probably just broadcast the event "BG OPEN" every second or so and it would work

Since you seem to just mean the battle gates

[sleek tiger]

Yeah, those are the main problem

but won't broadcasting an event all the time lag the game? Also, considering they open after you've completed that challenge, I'm sure there should be a way to auto-set challenge to completed

[versed needle]

You'll want to look into the PersistentBoolItem class for that

They're all gonna have their own unique bools you have to make true

[sleek tiger]

Well, I already manually set bosses to complete, it'll just be a bit more work

[versed needle]

What are you making that requires this?

[sleek tiger]

A mod that empties Hallownest

the base is removing layer 11, which is enemies

upon entering a new room

and now I'm looking through cases where you can get softlocked

[versed needle]

I actually just thought of something that might work well

[sleek tiger]

first thing that came to mind were the Bosses and Ghosts, which I set to defeated at the start of the game

[versed needle]

But you'd have to look into stuff a bit

[sleek tiger]

and I just need to get rid of those pesky challenge arena thingies

[versed needle]

There's probably a similar event like "BG CLOSE" that gets sent

If that's a global broadcast you can listen for it and reply with "BG OPEN"

[sleek tiger]

This still leaves doors that are closed from before you enter - Gruzz Mother for example

[versed needle]

Also broadcast "BG OPEN" on initial scene load

Those two things should handle 99% of cases

[sleek tiger]

So, every time I update a scene I set all possible doors in that scene to open. Then I check for an event that closes any doors and immediately cancel it, by opening them again

[versed needle]

Could work, yeah

[sleek tiger]

(another note regarding the mod - I'm removing the Dream Nail and Seer Entirely)

So, what's the triggering thing in Resting Grounds that starts that?

[versed needle]

I actually need to modify that exact thing for randomizer

There's 5 relevant FSMs in the dream nail room

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/Requirements.cs#L1205

[sleek tiger]

So:
Shield activates (you're closed)
You inspect the statue
starting of the 2nd Dreamer Scene
uhhh... you get sent to the Dream realm?
Unsure

[versed needle]

Idk man that's just all the FSMs that reference the dream nail bool

[sleek tiger]

can I just set them all to true (done) in order to skip them?

[versed needle]

You'd want to set them to some fake playerdata bool then override that bool to always true

[fallen spindle]

Greetingw

[sleek tiger]

Hello

[fallen spindle]

I've been trying to install the debug mod, but I'm at a loss

[sleek tiger]

Well, it should be installed like any other mod

[fallen spindle]

API isnthe correct version and appears on menu, but I justiça don't know where to out the files

[sleek tiger]

you need to use the Universal API

[fallen spindle]

Ah, ok

[sleek tiger]

Or, I'm not sure

did you make the Mods Folder?

you need a Mods Folder with the other things there

[fallen spindle]

No. O justo padres the contente from API 1.3.5.1 for Windows, which created the mods folder itself

Sorry

[sleek tiger]

the Debug Mod's dll should be in that mods Folder

[fallen spindle]

How do deactivate autocorrect¿

[sleek tiger]

On a phone?

there should either be a cogwheel on your keoyboard, down right for me

if not, go to Settings and it should be in like, Language settings or something

[fallen spindle]

much better. tnx

thing is, the debug mod I have has no dll. has one folder named source, and two files, one isnextension gitignore or something like that, and the other ismsln, if i'm not mistaken

[sleek tiger]

if you want to send me a screenshot of your Folders and stuff

?

the mod is the .dll file

this

should be something like this

[fallen spindle]

yeah, I even tried changing the file extension to dllI

I got it here

https://github.com/seanpr96/DebugMod

[sleek tiger]

Ooohhh

nonono

you should just go to the GDrive

in the pins on the other modding channel

that's where the mods are

[fallen spindle]

the one named modding, I guess¿

[sleek tiger]

Yeah

this is just the source code of the mods that has been posted online, I doubt anyone wanted you to get your mods from there

[fallen spindle]

thank you

[sleek tiger]

No Problem

[fallen spindle]

apologies, but I don't seem to find that one mod in the gdrive. I checked one by one and wrote debug on the search bar, but didn't find it

[sleek tiger]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9YWFRREptZE84bVk

[fallen spindle]

Am I missing it or went to the wrong one? I chose the pinned message that says it is a vpllection of mods posted on the channel

[sleek tiger]

you need the 3rd pinned message, by Seanpr

[fallen spindle]

went to that one

what then? maube I just missed it?

[sleek tiger]

the link I just sent is Debug Mod

[fallen spindle]

I checked it, and I'm grateful formit. You're a lifesaver. However, it isnjust my inaptitude that bothers me

is just

[sleek tiger]

don't worry

[fallen spindle]

thank you

btw, I'd like to rant about the pronce zote boss fight. isnthere a place for that here?

[sleek tiger]

Uhhhh

#hk-discussion or #297468195026239489

except

I'm already in Discussion talking about a mod...

you can come to #hk-help if you want to

[fallen spindle]

ok. take care buddy

[final arrow]

Mac OS - using API and debug mod - hollow_knight.app can't start because it may be damaged or incomplete. I used the patch method.

[glass meteor]

patch method what

[twin prairie]

soo what do i do at the soul fireball attack room after the false knight in the randomizer cause it wont load the room and just leaves a infinite loading screen

[runic oriole]

go somewhere else

what items you got?

[twin prairie]

mark of pride and crest key?

[runic oriole]

check Iselda, Sly and Salubra

see if they have anything useful

also, since you have MoP, you can go to greenpath

just kill the Baldur