hk-help

[desert stream]

once he gets ||the last notch he can use health or twister||

[narrow dagger]

i would still use ||steady body||

[gloomy nebula]

ok

[desert stream]

ok doesnt really matter

you can use ||steady body|| if you want

[gloomy nebula]

i'll try out diff combos and see how it works

[golden flower]

?

[narrow dagger]

that's what i said

[polar flicker]

|| sb is rlly nice in p4||

[sudden cobalt]

||steady body|| really depends on your playstyle

[narrow dagger]

but it's one of the best ||charms for p4 (other than quick slash and strength)||

[fallow yarrow]

@narrow dagger

[narrow dagger]

yeah

btw replying also pings

[fallow yarrow]

idk

[narrow dagger]

ok

!rule 3

does that not wrok

!tag spam

!tag rule 3

bro how you do this

[fallow yarrow]

Stop spamming

[narrow dagger]

?

[fallow yarrow]

It's very good against most bosses tho

Not just the playstyle

[sudden cobalt]

i mean i always use it

[fallow yarrow]

usually

[sudden cobalt]

but there are also really good loadouts without it

[fallow yarrow]

WHAT

[sudden cobalt]

||charm notch||

[fallow yarrow]

Best 1 ||notch|| charm against bosses

as I said

[sudden cobalt]

||nmg:||

ok not BETTER but also good

[fallow yarrow]

Honestly you can't spam ||NArts|| at any boss

makes the charm pointless

[narrow dagger]

use ||sharp shadow|| heard it helps for a boss

[golden flower]

do not do this

[fallow yarrow]

And ||3 nail hits > NArt||

And ||Strength doesn't add more damage to NArts||

[narrow dagger]

like that?

[golden flower]

yes? ||sheo, hornet (1/2), failed champion, mawlek, soul warrior, o&m, xero, oblobbles, galien, collector, watchers, uumuu (when down), no eyes, white defender, markoth, absrad||

[balmy iris]

guys. Though I've completed the game, I need help:
why cannot I ||dash|| when ||having a Nail Art charged|| and holding UP? Is there a way to fix this?

[fallow yarrow]

So ||SB > NMG?||

[gusty cove]

dont forget ||gorb||

[fallow yarrow]

Show me spamming ||NArts on Absolute Radiance and Markoth|| please

[golden flower]

slightly more difficult
and he causes 50% of segment 1/2 resets so it doesnt count

[narrow dagger]

||gruz mother||

[gusty cove]

fair enough lol.

[gusty cove]

are you unable to envision spamming for ||markoth||?

[fallow yarrow]

Why would you?

[gusty cove]

imo the best casual strat is to stay away from him to avoid getting hit. ||narts|| do more dps for that.

[fallow yarrow]

||When you can spam shade souls||

[gusty cove]

...you get ||soul|| from ||narts|| dawg

then you spam ||shade souls|| for ||phase 2||

[fallow yarrow]

You don't need to equip ||NMG|| to enable ||Nail Arts|| dawg

[gusty cove]

its more efficient tho... its also better for spamming them which is what were talking about, right?

[narrow dagger]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUbyuUpiXZ8&t=7s||

[fallow yarrow]

WHO USES ||NARTS|| ONLY ON A REGULAR ATTEMPT

[narrow dagger]

this guy

[fallow yarrow]

Wait what was the build

[narrow dagger]

wait he used nail once

[gusty cove]

build for what

[tired garnet]

any tips for ||mantis lord||??

anyone?

[fallow yarrow]

||Markoth with NMG and Shades spam||

[gusty cove]

mainly learning their attack patterns and learning how to react!!

[gusty cove]

ah. which damage mode?

[golden flower]

you can get ~3 ||gslashes on every orbs in ground with good positioning
2-3 on beam burst
2-3 on sword burst||

[fallow yarrow]

||Radiant ofc||

[golden flower]

#hk-help message
could find more in old footage, i do it in pretty much every run
this is using a little bit of safe strats (it is low hit after all) but there is definitely spam

[gusty cove]

||shaman, nmg, twister, soul catcher, heavy blow, soul eater.||

[fallow yarrow]

||Your only healing opportunity is when she throws her disc but you need to find the right spot||

[gusty cove]

||heavy blow|| is there to increase distance.

[fallow yarrow]

||Damn, Heavy blow? Really?||

[gusty cove]

i literally just said why

😭

[golden flower]

theres nothing better

[fallow yarrow]

I used it only for one other boss

I think

[tired garnet]

is there a nearer ||save bench|| to get to ||mantis lord||? my current one is the safe place with a bench

[tired garnet]

the one on the very bottom

[gusty cove]

no other better one, sorry :/

[tired garnet]

of ||mantis village||

okay, thanks!

[gusty cove]

yw!

[lost pelican]

How to ||watcher knight door skip||

[fallow yarrow]

Why would you aim for that if you can just ||spam your nail with QS and Strength||

[gusty cove]

downpatch

[tired garnet]

also, what is the next ability will i need to get? i have ||mantis claw and the orb recently, will i get the double jump next||?

[golden flower]

||...fury affects narts
each does 92 damage||

its also just nicer to play and safer

[fallow yarrow]

You still have exploring to do for that

[shut sparrow]

||you pogo the background object||

teqnok

[gusty cove]

oh wait that one

[shut sparrow]

hello

[golden flower]

||n||onsenf

[shut sparrow]

mwommp

[lost pelican]

Not him

[fallow yarrow]

What if the person you're giving these tips to doesn't have several hundred hours on the game

[narrow dagger]

No you will get ||super dash|| (spoiler for next ||ability||)

[lost pelican]

||Locked door||

[gusty cove]

haii!!

[tired garnet]

the one where you have ||i-frames||?

[gusty cove]

sorry my mom is speaking to me about restaurants

[narrow dagger]

No, that is something else

[lost pelican]

Pls help ||watcher knights Door skip||

[tired garnet]

oh is it the ||super long dash with a boost windup||

[golden flower]

the question was why i would aim for it, thats why i am for it
to not be pedantic its safer, for someone thats actually struggling on ||markoth getting good hits in with qs/strength is going to be much harder than bypassing the shield with dslashes||

[gusty cove]

||lever skip?||

[narrow dagger]

You could get that one before actually, but you asked fo||r an ability not a spell|| (again major spoilers)

[narrow dagger]

yes

[lost pelican]

Yes

[gusty cove]

downpatch. doesnt work on curreng patch iirc

i think 1221 is before it was patched but idk the exact patch

[lost pelican]

Noo😭

[shut sparrow]

you said "you can't at any boss" and they showed examples of bosses that it worked for. It doesn't have to work for every boss for your argument to be disproved

[tired garnet]

how can i get the ||dash which makes it black and have i-frames||? am i way ahead?

[lost pelican]

Tysm

[narrow dagger]

Yes

[gusty cove]

youre super ahead rn, just focus on playing the game rn!

[narrow dagger]

try not to spoil everything in the game

[shut sparrow]

also ||markoth|| is pretty much the best ||boss to use narts on wdym||

[narrow dagger]

It ruins the expierience

[golden flower]

hell i couldnt get good normal nail hits in on ||markoth|| if i tried for a while

[fallow yarrow]

YOU DON'T NEED ||NMG|| FOR HIM

[gusty cove]

preach ||n||onsenf

[shut sparrow]

you don't need anything

[gusty cove]

stop yelling youre hurting my ears and its annoying

[fallow yarrow]

YOU don't need anything

[tired garnet]

so its not really that important for the ||mantis lord|| but can help with minor things?

[fallow yarrow]

My left ear hurts for several days now

You'll suffer too!

[gusty cove]

its not even relevant to what youre doing rn, dw abt it

[narrow dagger]

ok according to you, if you don't have ||narts|| you don't "need"|| qs or strength or even an upgrade on the nail||

[shut sparrow]

||the point is that nothing is necessary. Charms simply make the fight easier. Saying "nmg isn't necessary to beat the boss" is correct but it misses the point. If it makes it easier/you stronger, it's good. And it does||

[narrow dagger]

so all those ||charms ||are completley useless cause you don't "need" them

[near forum]

Nevermind me checking the vc to see if anyone was playing

[fallow yarrow]

Means you can use your ||notches|| for something better

[shut sparrow]

there's nothing better sadly

[gusty cove]

lol

[fallow yarrow]

OKAY

[fallow yarrow]

||SB||

[narrow dagger]

wgats tgat

[golden flower]

||steady body||

[gusty cove]

oops

[shut sparrow]

||sbody doesn't have an effect on narts|| which should be your primary source of damage

[gusty cove]

||sb for markoth is ineffective||

[fallow yarrow]

Okay yeah I admit ||NMG might be the best addition to the Markoth fight||

[gusty cove]

good job.

[narrow dagger]

what are you gonna use the ||last charm notch for||?

[shut sparrow]

plot twist 🦖

[fallow yarrow]

But I think I didn't use it ||also Heavy blow with it|| when I beat him

It wasn't a hard fight

I'mma look if I have a screenshot of the build

[narrow dagger]

||rad markoth ||isn't hard?

[shut sparrow]

||heavy blow is peak||

[gusty cove]

still helpful lol... ||n||onsenf told me to use it. thx ||n||onsenf!!

[fallow yarrow]

||Dash Slash the goat||

[narrow dagger]

oh

[golden flower]

its chill if youre not pogoing

[fallow yarrow]

Wym primary

[shut sparrow]

no worries non​senf

[shut sparrow]

main

[fallow yarrow]

Guys I lost the point brb

[gusty cove]

wait is the spoiler tag gone what

[narrow dagger]

ok

[fallow yarrow]

I'mma say I never really used ||NMG|| and don't see how it's better than other options

[golden flower]

Its a secret
cant say it here because it does bypass the bot

[gusty cove]

ok

[fallow yarrow]

||I have radHog (Radiance ascended but I'm close) P1ab - P4ab||

[gusty cove]

good for you

but the thing is, someone who has only done one playthrough also has an equally valid opinion as you.

[golden flower]

||absrad phase 1-2 (from the same run)||
There are windows everywhere

[shut sparrow]

||all bindings or each binding? because all bindings p4 would be sick if you haven't done rad absrad yet||

[narrow dagger]

how is ur ||cyclone slash|| so slow?

[golden flower]

cs?
|| ||

[narrow dagger]

mb i think that there is an abbrieviation for everything

[gusty cove]

buttonmash

[shut sparrow]

not having used something you can't really judge how good it is

[narrow dagger]

wdym

[golden flower]

pressing (1/2/3) more times while its active makes it hit (1/2/3) more times and slows a fall

unextended speeds up falls

[narrow dagger]

bruh thats so useful

[shut sparrow]

wtf didn't know that

I always just mashed

didn't know it correlated 1:1 to the amount of additional inputs

[golden flower]

Yea i still either mash or do nothing, not a point where i need specifically 4 hits

[golden flower]

Genio said it so it must be true (#hk-discussion message)

[gusty cove]

lol real

[shut sparrow]

genio knows too much about the game

[gusty cove]

getting gatorade...yum

[fallow yarrow]

||all bindings||

I wanted to do these before her

[shut sparrow]

nice

[fallow yarrow]

4th was harder for me too

[shut sparrow]

me too

[hallow scroll]

i have 350 hrs in the game havent done a single ||binding||

[fallow yarrow]

they're fun

[hallow scroll]

they are not fun

[fallow yarrow]

not ||Zote tho||

[hallow scroll]

or maybe one at a time but thats even more boring

[versed shale]

Is there a difference between ||all bindings|| and ||every binding||?

[hallow scroll]

it's too slow

[hallow scroll]

no

or what

idt so

[west garnet]

pronouciation

thats about it

[fallow yarrow]

||first is every binding at once the other is yk||

you can do one or two at a time on the second meaning

[versed shale]

Okkk thank

[shut sparrow]

||wdym "difference". One is way harder and they are treaded differently by the community because of that but they give the same reward in game||

[fallow yarrow]

until you have each

[hallow scroll]

wait what

they're different

which is which

[shut sparrow]

||all bindings is usually abbreviated with ab while each binding gets called eb||

[hallow scroll]

what the hell is the difference what

[shut sparrow]

||ab is at the same time, eb is on their own||

[hallow scroll]

wait so ppl are flexing 1 at a time

[narrow dagger]

OMFG I FINALLT beat|| RAD MARKOTH||

[fallow yarrow]

W

what build

[shut sparrow]

it's not about flexing?

[versed shale]

Ggs 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[hallow scroll]

if you have it in your name it is

[fallow yarrow]

all about flexing

[shut sparrow]

not necessarily. Also this was never the discussion

[hallow scroll]

no im just shocked

i assumed they were the same thing

[fallow yarrow]

why would you do hard challenges if you don't flex

[hallow scroll]

because it's fun

that's why im never touching a ||binding|| ever

[fallow yarrow]

you just said ||bindings are not fun||

[hallow scroll]

i havent done any

cus they arent fun

[fallow yarrow]

you hate having fun??

you just said it's fun

[hallow scroll]

bindings are not a fun challenge

[shut sparrow]

||each binding is part of game completion and gives a journal entry. Of course it's gonna get referred to||

[shut sparrow]

please spoiler tag that

[versed shale]

||Guys I keep asking this question all time.. But at your opinion what's the most difficult... P4ab or p4no upgrades? ||

[hallow scroll]

huh?

[fallow yarrow]

you spend more time with the bosses and have more fun!

[hallow scroll]

is the second one not just objectivly harder or what

[fallow yarrow]

wait ||bindings|| is not a spoiler bruh

[shut sparrow]

you should tag it still

[hallow scroll]

no that aint fun

how

what

thats a mod

[fallow yarrow]

lore

[hallow scroll]

omg

||infection bomb is fun||

[shut sparrow]

||wdym by "no upgrades"? If you mean like king's pass gear at the start of the game without literally anything then it isn't even a question. Comparing p4ab to itemless p4 is like comparing the first enemy to the hardest boss hitless||

[spring mesa]

The ||infection || is the driving part of the lore, hence it is a spoiler

[golden flower]

its ||onws||

[fallow yarrow]

||P4ab definitely wym||

[hallow scroll]

it's not that different

[shut sparrow]

it's very different

[fallow yarrow]

at the second you have ||3 casts||

[golden flower]

||itemless vs channeled nail black spells w movement||

[hallow scroll]

i think you get base ||spells and mobility||

[fallow yarrow]

that's a cool challenge tho, I'mma try it

[shut sparrow]

||itemless your only way of damaging the bosses is a 5 damage nail swing.

Ab you still have overpowered spells and a 13 damage nail||

[shut sparrow]

not in itemless

itemless means nothing

[hallow scroll]

right

im mixing

[shut sparrow]

you don't have ||spells||

[hallow scroll]

he defo meant upgrade less tho

[shut sparrow]

"upgrade less" isn't really a used term so idk what it's supposed to mean

[golden flower]

Its ||onws||

[fallow yarrow]

I interpret that as ||0 nail, white spells||

needs to be more specific

[shut sparrow]

||full masks?||

[golden flower]

5

[shut sparrow]

||then that's still much harder than ab I'd say||

pretty definitely

[hallow scroll]

well obviously

both are equally unfun

[golden flower]

#hk-help message

[hallow scroll]

did you genuinely just say ||cathcer||

[fallow yarrow]

[hallow scroll]

||id rather have 2 empty notches than use that||

[fallow yarrow]

WHAT

[shut sparrow]

||catcher is one of the strongest charms in the game||

[hallow scroll]

yeah right

[fallow yarrow]

better than ||twister||

[shut sparrow]

not always

it depends

[hallow scroll]

i dont ||oc twister anyways||

[fallow yarrow]

I mean usually

[compact lion]

controvercial take there buddy

[narrow dagger]

@versed shale how do you ckeck ur %?

[hallow scroll]

wait i do ||oc catcher but not twister||

or did

[shut sparrow]

||catcher objectively gives you more soul than twister if unless you use spells 4x as much as you heal||

[hallow scroll]

both suck

[shut sparrow]

that's not true

[hallow scroll]

i think i lose time on ||over charming catcher||

cus thats the only time i ||oc||

[shut sparrow]

"I am bad at using a charm thus it's bad"

[hallow scroll]

theres just way better options

[fallow yarrow]

like

[shut sparrow]

||also generally overcharming with 2 notch charms is almost always losing you notches||

[hallow scroll]

||flukenest||

[fallow yarrow]

||Catcher is more about healing||

[hallow scroll]

im refering to in the ||112 route at fungal to kill ogres||

[shut sparrow]

||it costs more notches and isn't better unless you abuse it's glitches||

[compact lion]

||long nail is good|||

[hallow scroll]

who doesnt abuse its glitches

[fallow yarrow]

||Glowing Womb||

[fallow yarrow]

||Flukenest is 3 notches||

first of all

[shut sparrow]

||more about healing but not just about healing. It's better for spell usage as well. Unless what I mentioned applies||

[compact lion]

?

[fallow yarrow]

yeah

[shut sparrow]

people who don't like abusing glitches to reach their achievements

[fallow yarrow]

that's

[hallow scroll]

it was censored

[fallow yarrow]

you don't spoiler

[shut sparrow]

it wasn't censored correctly

[hallow scroll]

||unb str, shaman, qs, sb/dw, flukenest. where do you fit catcher||

[fallow yarrow]

oh lol censored spoilered okay

[fallow yarrow]

what even is this build about

[hallow scroll]

build i use for ||p5||

[shut sparrow]

||for overcharming, catcher isn't good||

[fallow yarrow]

||Flukenest|| is pointless if you use ||Strength and QS||

[hallow scroll]

no?

[shut sparrow]

how come?

[hallow scroll]

what?

what the fuck are these takes

0 correlation

||qs|| makes it better

[fallow yarrow]

you either create a build that is ||Flukenest|| focused or ||nail spam focused with QS and Strength||

[shut sparrow]

nuhuh

[hallow scroll]

what

[shut sparrow]

hybrid is best

[hallow scroll]

what the fuck am i reading

[compact lion]

||if u have 2 notches free... just use compass and spare the other one||

[fallow yarrow]

with ||Flukenest||?

[hallow scroll]

YES?

[fallow yarrow]

I don't ask you

[shut sparrow]

no. But it's not useless like you mentioned

[fallow yarrow]

said it's pointless

[shut sparrow]

||generally qslash supports healing and spell usage||

[hallow scroll]

for ||p5 you run it until last bench||

[shut sparrow]

well it isn't because th point is more damage

[hallow scroll]

bro ||flukenest|| saves minutes

[fallow yarrow]

when you can put literally ||Catcher/Twister, Grubsong or Longer Nail and Grub/SB or /MOP||

[shut sparrow]

this isn't about speed afaik

[near forum]

Isn't that for an older patch

[hallow scroll]

all makes the build weaker

[hallow scroll]

no one plays lp

[near forum]

Wasn't it patched

[fallow yarrow]

you don't even play normally

chicken

[shut sparrow]

most people do

[near forum]

1.5.78 player at your service

[hallow scroll]

bro im talking about for ||p5 if you want to go fast you obv oc flukenest||

[fallow yarrow]

ragebait take

[hallow scroll]

what?

it's safer than ||fury and still does a lot||

[fallow yarrow]

who talks about ||Fury||

[shut sparrow]

regardless, this discussion is pointless and should be moves elsewhere.
You seem to be arguing based on old versions and speedrunning while I don't think interesting person was.

[hallow scroll]

no but he is saying it's worse for speed

[fallow yarrow]

yeah, what happened to hk help

purge

[fallow yarrow]

I said nothing about speed

[hallow scroll]

tell me a build w ||catcher||

[hallow scroll]

.

[hardy bridge]

I'm Brazilian and I need help. If any Brazilian can help me, my DMs are open.

[fallow yarrow]

these worms are so unworthy hard to hit on bosses which you can ||hit twice with big Shades from Shaman||

[near forum]

Type || before and after your sentences to spoiler tag it
In case you're having trouble with it

[fallow yarrow]

I like the no correlation

[hallow scroll]

||they can hit 4 times||

even more

[fallow yarrow]

?????

[hallow scroll]

they can kill before the boss spawns in

like on ||mossy||

on for example ||galien if you fluke he instantly dies after one hit||

[narrow dagger]

do|| grubs count towards 112%?||

[fallow yarrow]

you're right, ||Massive Moss Charger is the biggest threat on P5 and you need to be well prepared!||

[hallow scroll]

their rewards do

[narrow dagger]

bruh

[hallow scroll]

im saying

[near forum]

Not outright but ||grubfather|| gives things that do

So you need all of them

[fallow yarrow]

indirectly

you need all

[hallow scroll]

they insta kill almost every boss

[fallow yarrow]

do you spam ||Flukes on Pure Vessel||

[hallow scroll]

and still deal massive damage to everyone else

[hallow scroll]

||flukes sadly dont work on pv so no||

they were bugged on the last patch which is the one normal ppl use

[narrow dagger]

My pause button isn't working (ignore the mods)

[hallow scroll]

leave rejoin

or smth

[narrow dagger]

No.

[hallow scroll]

it's some mod messing with it then

[narrow dagger]

Which one?

[hallow scroll]

might be a debug mod setting

[shut sparrow]

ask in modding discussion or make a post in modding help (after reading the pinned post). Also try closing and reopening the game

[hallow scroll]

he defo touched smth in debug

[narrow dagger]

read teh conv

[narrow dagger]

no

i only use it for inf health or noclip cause im too lazy to do some things

[hallow scroll]

did you just hit download on every mod

what are these

[narrow dagger]

no

[shut sparrow]

which part?

[narrow dagger]

all hallownest enchancesd is good so is benchwarp charmpreset debug mod enemy hpbar fragilestrength for anil arts and qol and metal ost ,the rest are js libraries

[hallow scroll]

jusr play the game normally

[narrow dagger]

this one

[narrow dagger]

without metal ost?

[shut sparrow]

well the rest I said still applies

[hallow scroll]

the hk ost is some of the best shit ive heard

[narrow dagger]

k

[hallow scroll]

no what the fuck is that nc ost called

[shut sparrow]

also you can just close the game

[hallow scroll]

that shit is better

fuck is it called

[narrow dagger]

try the metal one (||mantis lords|| is my favourite) (metal ost)

[hallow scroll]

omg what is it called

[narrow dagger]

metal ost

i literally said it like 3 times (its a mod called metal ost)

[silk heron]

||Good charm builds for NKG???? pls help im frustrated||

[shut sparrow]

can you send an image of your charms and your inventory?

[gentle dawn]

|| many notches and what charms||

[shut sparrow]

do you like using ||nailarts?||

[silk heron]

No

[shut sparrow]

[silk heron]

the activation is confusing and im on pc

want my controls?

[gentle dawn]

i would use || unb strength, qs, mop and unb hearts|| but u dont have all ||notches || so use a single ||notch charm||

[shut sparrow]

then I'd use ||strength, qslash, soul catcher||

[narrow dagger]

the pc part doesn't change anythign

[shut sparrow]

they also need ||grimmchild||

[gentle dawn]

DAMN I FORGOR

[silk heron]

||how do i get all notches????||

[simple galleon]

Dw, they are not for everyone

[gentle dawn]

where did u get the one u have?

[silk heron]

||Colosseum, Salubra, and first grimm fight||

Atleast all i remember

[gentle dawn]

did u get in ||jellyfish place?||

[shut sparrow]

||you are most likely missing one in the area left of fungal wastes||

[simple galleon]

One in ||fog canyon||

[silk heron]

||Fog canyon? i dont think so||

[gentle dawn]

yeah there

[silk heron]

||Alr btw this is the build i was using||

[simple galleon]

That's good

[gentle dawn]

seems good

[shut sparrow]

replace ||longnail with soul catcher and ur good||

[gentle dawn]

but once u get the last ||notch|| u can use ||mop|| or ||shamans||

[silk heron]

||mop?..||

Current build

[gentle dawn]

||mark of pride||

[shut sparrow]

||or quick focus ||

[shut sparrow]

peak

[silk heron]

||ill go try grimm||

ill let yall know how it goes

[gentle dawn]

u can, but since u dont have ||shamans ur spells aint that good, and u only get little healing windows so u dont need a big abundance of soul||

imo

[primal ibex]

Hi nonsen||f||

[simple galleon]

Someone other than me suggested ||qf||! This is a rare occasion!

[silk heron]

||buddy i GRINDED for this Exact fight||

[primal ibex]

Hello Ben

[polar flicker]

Hi Ben
||Nonsenf ||
Zl

[simple galleon]

Hello zl

[gentle dawn]

who?

[shut sparrow]

remember you can always do the fight later. If you're still struggling, there's nothing wrong about going elsewhere and getting more upgrades first.

If there's anything specific you're struggling with or need other advice (like for healing ) ask

[primal ibex]

Herb

[gentle dawn]

what am i supposed to be looking for?

[simple galleon]

Wow everyone is here

[shut sparrow]

Hi Ben
||Herb ||
Zl

[simple galleon]

Hi Herb

[silk heron]

||Wait, should i get unb greed first before NKG?||

[gentle dawn]

no..?

[primal ibex]

It doesn’t help there but you can

[gentle dawn]

its actually pretty useless

[shut sparrow]

||qf is great||

[simple galleon]

I think they are asking if ||divine|| would dissappear

[silk heron]

||Alr cuz im scared cuz i want a 112 percent which i think includes having every unb charm||

[primal ibex]

||unb greed|| is just pretty bad to get in general

[shut sparrow]

no

[gentle dawn]

it dosent

[narrow dagger]

no

[silk heron]

||oh bet. but incase does Divine dissapear?||

[shut sparrow]

||and even if it did, you can get the unbreakables after defeating Grimm||

[silk heron]

oh bet

alr im going Into the fight

[simple galleon]

Good luck!

[gentle dawn]

lil spoiler|| but if u banish then yes, she is gone, but if u fight nkg she will stay||

[shut sparrow]

good luck!

[silk heron]

Thats all i need

[gentle dawn]

gl twin

[silk heron]

I lost miserably

like 20s miserably

[polar flicker]

He takes a while

But he's rlly fun to learn

[gentle dawn]

damn😭

[polar flicker]

And understand the punishes

[gentle dawn]

lwk just try to dodge and not attack for like a round to get used to the attacks

he has like 6 attacks so its not hard to remember

[silk heron]

||i feel like im not punishing NKG but i think IM the one being punished||

[simple galleon]

He is one of the big 3, so don't worry. He will take time to beat. You got this!

[gentle dawn]

for the first time...we all do twin

[silk heron]

||this is NOT my 1st playthrough btw actually my 2nd||

||while sure my first was just beating the hollow knight and getting ending one as i said im going for 112 here||

[gentle dawn]

did u do him on the other one?

[silk heron]

Nah

[gentle dawn]

oh so 1 save file?

[silk heron]

read this

[hallow scroll]

are my binds limiting me in anyway or am i g

[silk heron]

||well yeah i never beat non NKG grimm on 1st save file||

[hallow scroll]

you just ogtta learn ig

[gentle dawn]

i mean u could place attack on ur LMB

[hallow scroll]

thats horrible

[gentle dawn]

ok 😭

[silk heron]

||ill explore fog canyon for more notches||

[gentle dawn]

just 1

[silk heron]

||BROTHER no offense everyone has their own playstyle but BRO using the arrow button to attack is... i dont have the words||

[hallow scroll]

arrow keys are slept on

[silk heron]

whatever makes u good G

||how do i get these last Grubs bro???||

[hallow scroll]

lol those suck

i used to run 112 i should know this

[gentle dawn]

for the one in ||fog, u have to c-dash straight from the etrance to the area where the archives are||

[hallow scroll]

ok on the left one you basically go right over it and theres a secret wlal

[hallow scroll]

||archives one you just go to where you drop down to archives and cdash accross||

[hallow scroll]

||deepnest is a hidden wall where you dropf rom fungal||

[hallow scroll]

||the one next to white lady you can either go to white lady entrance and do a dash slash to bug it unless its patched or the intende way of walking around from way lower, theres a secret passage up before the stag||

i haven o ide on the last one

[gentle dawn]

nice

[shut sparrow]

||you need to reach it from inside the hive||

[silk heron]

BRUH

[golden flower]

||cdash into wings|| from either direction

[shut sparrow]

made by waldofoce

[hallow scroll]

further in iirc

its with some ||acid pools ||

[shut sparrow]

what are your leading them to?

[hallow scroll]

||grubby||

[golden flower]

which

[hallow scroll]

.

[golden flower]

there are 4 in those images, none of which are close to any ||acid||

[latent pollen]

hey guys

how can i be a helper here

[silk heron]

found em

[gentle dawn]

W

[silk heron]

so now only these now

[golden flower]

answer questions, skip it if you dont have an answer, dont spoil content unless explicitly asked
that's it really

[silk heron]

||updated map||

[gentle dawn]

didnt u get the one ín|| fog can||

oh

[latent pollen]

ok

[gentle dawn]

perfect timeing

[latent pollen]

i will try

[silk heron]

?

[modern harbor]

||there’s a breakable wall, leading you to the room||

[silk heron]

where??

[modern harbor]

||from right*||

[silk heron]

life saver

gottem

[gentle dawn]

oh that one.. hes a god floating in empty place, beware of the hardest fight of ur life

[silk heron]

wowww so cook

to bad i got the right out of 4

so now..

[gentle dawn]

the one on the top is behind a breakable wall i think

[silk heron]

||well im already at queens garden sooo||

[gentle dawn]

yeah the wall is there

both of them are in that area

which ur in rn

[shut sparrow]

for the one on the top you can literally just go there

[silk heron]

mr lifesafer

[shut sparrow]

||break the glass||

[silk heron]

thanks for all the help guys

gwubby loves you all

||so how do i get the rest of the charms?||

[shut sparrow]

||crossroads, deepnest, greenpath, ancient basin, royal waterways||

Many of them are visible as unexplored areas on your map so imo it's best to check yourself first if you can spot and find them

[silk heron]

alr thx

||idk where to get it at crossroads||

[shut sparrow]

||in the room above the stag station||

||a breakable wall/ceiling||

[silk heron]

||Glowing Womb Claimed||

||Sooo ancient basin?||

[silk heron]

||what about ancient basin?||

[shut sparrow]

||near the tram||

[silk heron]

Thx

[shut sparrow]

pretty far down

[silk heron]

?

[shut sparrow]

sorry 😭 I meant ||deepnest||

[silk heron]

A BRUH

[polar flicker]

Smh

[silk heron]

meh fair

[shut sparrow]

so just take the ||tram||

[shut sparrow]

shush

[polar flicker]

Helpers these days...

Jk

[silk heron]

||to deepnest!||

[shut sparrow]

""

ok "teqnok"

[golden flower]

[silk heron]

sooo IVE GOT 3 LEFT!!!!

[silk heron]

so where now???

||where is the Flukemarm???||

[shut sparrow]

||can you send your royal waterways map? it's difficult to describe||

[hazy adder]

There I think?

[silk heron]

ill go see

[hazy adder]

I might be wrong tho

[hazy adder]

Someone fact check this

[silk heron]

Dw ill go fact chek it in HK

check*

[hazy adder]

||It’ll look like a place to jump but if you run through the wall you’ll find a secret path||

[silk heron]

kk

[hazy adder]

It’s where those pink ||worms|| are

[golden flower]

right

[hazy adder]

Send a pic of the knight

[golden flower]

down

[hazy adder]

||deepnest||????

[golden flower]

no
its the right spot

[silk heron]

found itt

[craggy karma]

im this close to buying hollow knight

just so i can prevent getting my save fucked up again

[polar flicker]

Didn't u delete it cuz u didn't wanna play from the start or smthn

[silk heron]

beat him in 5s

[craggy karma]

i deleted it because gog is shit and wouldnt allow me to download mods

so

im wondering if i should buy it

on steam

just incase my save gets deleted again

[silk heron]

||2 more charms until all 40||

[polar flicker]

If u wanna yeah

[craggy karma]

thats not rlly helping me

[craggy karma]

ive had such a shit day that i cant even decide on that

[silk heron]

where are the remaining 2_

[compact lion]

buy it 100% it aint that expensive

[golden flower]

name 1: ||shape of unn||
area 1: ||greenpath||
name 2: ||weaversong||
area 2: ||deepnest||

[scarlet river]

Are you trying to get the blessing

?

[silk heron]

Yes

going for 112

[craggy karma]

i would have to download mods and skip through everything

[silk heron]

||only weaversong remaining||

gotta

[compact lion]

what do u mean?

[carmine marsh]

Oh yeah attachments

This good for ||grimm||?

[acoustic sigil]

Yes

[primal ibex]

Very

[scarlet river]

||everybody want that kiss||

[carmine marsh]

I have every ||notch|| accessible before him

[craggy karma]

my save got fucked

so i have to buy it from steam to prevent it from happening

[silk heron]

no

[craggy karma]

and i need to download a mod

[acoustic sigil]

Pretty sure you could? You just have to downpatch

[carmine marsh]

What should I do

[craggy karma]

so i can get to where i was

[scarlet river]

Fhhh

[polar flicker]

Just play it normally again id say

[silk heron]

||id recommend getting MOP||

[compact lion]

nah ik what happned i was here for the debug discussion but how did u play anyway if u didnt have it on steam?

[polar flicker]

It's not a very long run to get where u were

[carmine marsh]

I should spoiler mark my name

[scarlet river]

||zote you want a cheese or a true fight||

[craggy karma]

gog

[compact lion]

whats that?

[craggy karma]

im not spending 2 days of agony

[acoustic sigil]

A second playthrough takes way shorter

[silk heron]

||so wheres weaversong???||

[craggy karma]

another browser/site (whatever) for games

[carmine marsh]

Cheese 100% I am only doing this for the ||notch||

[craggy karma]

i dont remember half the stuff

[primal ibex]

GOG Galaxy iirc, another game store thing like steam

[scarlet river]

Lemme tell you sumn

[primal ibex]

It still takes less time bc you know more or less where stuff are

[compact lion]

just buy it on steam its easier and more versatile and u can get it for cheap on some websites

[craggy karma]

true but i cannot be bothered

ill just mod it

[compact lion]

look up a guide to where u were

[craggy karma]

and delete the mod after

[scarlet river]

||you get shaman stone,soul twister, grubsong and the recovery charm and just hit him on his bow, go under him and spam abyss shriek||

[primal ibex]

Uncspoilers

[scarlet river]

You gotta have full soul before this

[primal ibex]

Not a good idea

[scarlet river]

@carmine marsh

[compact lion]

dont forget the debug mod is kinda like cocaine tho u might get addicted and die

[primal ibex]

Trust me I’ve tried

[craggy karma]

I KNOWWW

[scarlet river]

Man I can't even say your name

[golden flower]

facetanking is never a good rec

[craggy karma]

trust me

i know

[silk heron]

and how do i get there???

[craggy karma]

im more afraid of that than losing my save again

[scarlet river]

Even ||6 masks|| is good enough

[primal ibex]

Send a screenshot of your map

[scarlet river]

I figured his out in a help me vid where he said that you can pull a ||abyss shriek|| if you take a bit of dmg

[carmine marsh]

He asked where ||weaversong|| is, I showed him where ||weaversong|| is (screenshot from wiki)

[compact lion]

im just playing with u XD gl on getting back twin if i were u i would buy it on steam if ur financial situation allows it

[golden flower]

i say that because it will fail miserably on anything less than full gear with a very specific build
also leads to not knowing how to play fights at all

[craggy karma]

no way

how

[scarlet river]

I mean I just put on anything I didn't really see a vid

[carmine marsh]

Wong I know that, I’ve done like 5 in a row and dealt at least 500

[craggy karma]

im getting to the|| bank||?

no way thats a spoiler

[primal ibex]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.
🔹 Wiki pages tend to contain several spoilers unrelated to the question asked. Avoid referring new players to the wiki; give them only the information they asked for. Anything more can spoil their experience.

[scarlet river]

You have the upgraded ||shriek|| right

[compact lion]

there is a ||bank|| in the game thats why

[carmine marsh]

Make your way up, and I believe it’s a ||breakable wall||

[craggy karma]

never used it

[compact lion]

later in the game

[silk heron]

walkable

[carmine marsh]

I think so?

[silk heron]

this is satisfying

[carmine marsh]

U do need ||cdash|| at some point in there I believe

Bet

[silk heron]

time to get dem smooch

[primal ibex]

@carmine marsh did you see this?

[silk heron]

||okay sooooooo what does Salubras blessing do||

[golden flower]

passive ||soul regen at benches||

[silk heron]

oh right

[scarlet river]

Mb went afk for a lil while

[silk heron]

this is OP

[scarlet river]

@carmine marsh

Zoooooooooooooooooooooo teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[silk heron]

BOYS IVE DONE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wispy abyss]

I actually managed to Stagger ||Failed Champ||

I’m so proud

[scarlet river]

Proud of you son

[polar flicker]

U shd activate windows

[silk heron]

i aint paying 200 bux

or 100

plus is doesnt even bother me

||so all ive got to do.... DLC content||

[scarlet river]

Is shaw a spoiler

Apparently not

[polar flicker]

Fair

[scarlet river]

But ||zote|| is

How the hell does this work

[wispy abyss]

||Only things I can’t deal with are the falling debris and the shockwave hitboxes||

[acoustic sigil]

One is a character, the other is not

[scarlet river]

Ahhhhhh

[compact lion]

just get it for 20 or sum...

[silk heron]

aint payin that either

[scarlet river]

Peak pfp

[silk heron]

idrc bout windows

[polar flicker]

|| either move from the debris or hit them with ur nail
For shockwave jump
U shd upgrade ur nail ||

[scarlet river]

Put || before and after your name @carmine marsh

[compact lion]

u have peak ballknowledge

[carmine marsh]

If he had 39 of the 40 charms I think he might not be a new player

[silk heron]

||wanna know a tip? dash when he jumps, jump when he shockwaves, Dodge during debris!||

[carmine marsh]

?

[silk heron]

im on my 2nd playthrough so im not new

[primal ibex]

There’s still places on the map that they might not have seen

[scarlet river]

Did you beat ||grimm|| yet

[carmine marsh]

Nearly

[silk heron]

i lwk know half the map

[scarlet river]

Did the cheese work

[carmine marsh]

They went ||pufferfish|| 3 times in a row

[scarlet river]

THATS A SPOILER

[scarlet river]

Uh they are supposed to

[compact lion]

i found windows 10 for 7 euros at some point u have to take the bait

[carmine marsh]

Yeah I know

It’s hp triggered

[scarlet river]

I mean it's suppose dto be 4

[primal ibex]

They’re not

[silk heron]

im on windows 11

[scarlet river]

In the cheese they are

[silk heron]

but thanks for trying to convince me

[wispy abyss]

||It’s hard to dodge the debris when you’re managing the shockwaves and you run into shit with the dash lol||

[golden flower]

its a spam facetank build

[compact lion]

i found that for 15

[carmine marsh]

Zl ||pufferfish|| is hp triggered

[scarlet river]

He didn't even stagger when I tried it

[primal ibex]

Yeah it’s only possible if you bring the health down really quickly

[silk heron]

brother not interest in ur advertisisng

[carmine marsh]

If you spam ||shriek|| then you can get them to do so

[scarlet river]

Can you send me a pic of your equipped charms

Spoiler it

[carmine marsh]

How is ||pufferfish|| a spoiler but not stagger

[scarlet river]

Stagger

Every boss staggers

[golden flower]

most

[scarlet river]

You stagger in real life

[carmine marsh]

Agh it can’t do that

[scarlet river]

Right

[carmine marsh]

That’s sad

[compact lion]

alright but if you ever need my services again u might never find me

[silk heron]

Alright well i will never need them.....

[silk heron]

google exists yk

[scarlet river]

Can ya send me a pic of your equipped charms rq

Spoiler it

[wispy abyss]

||Every fight has three damage outcomes: 1. I shockwave evade into a boulder. 2. I boulder evade into a shockwave. 3. I do either and the jump hits me||

[polar flicker]

Maybe send a vid

[primal ibex]

Ignore the rocks

They don’t hit you most of the time

[silk heron]

||alr chat boutta get my FINAL vessel fragment||

[scarlet river]

WOOOOOO

Which one is it tho

[silk heron]

||also how do i get to the grey mourner i went to RG and followed the wiki map but i cant find them||

[silk heron]

the last one

[silk heron]

like LAST LAST one

[scarlet river]

There isn't w order bro

Deep

One?

||stag|| one?

[polar flicker]

|| hidden area did u find a tomb there near the seer area ||

[scarlet river]

@silk heron

[wispy abyss]

Yes they do… and sometimes the ||shockwave just hits you even when you jump over it||

[silk heron]

yah?

[scarlet river]

Big boy which ine

[silk heron]

wait lemme see

[scarlet river]

||stag|| or deep

Or ||seer||

[silk heron]

whoops

[scarlet river]

Ningen

[scarlet river]

Yeah deep one

That was the easiest one to get for me

||seer|| one was second

Cuz I had to beat ||failed champion||

[reef saffron]

hi

can i get some help on god realm thing

[scarlet river]

Hello

[reef saffron]

anyone whos good

and can coach

[polar flicker]

Define good

[reef saffron]

like

beat the godrealm things

1 2 3 and 4 and stuff

[silk heron]

||Pantheons?||

[polar flicker]

Ok what are u stuck with

[desert stream]

which one

[reef saffron]

currently on the one taht

has

[acoustic sigil]

@reef saffron Don't try to avoid the spoiler bot, spoiler tag your messages

[reef saffron]

oh ok

how

[desert stream]

put || on either side

[carmine marsh]

It has a tutorial

[reef saffron]

oh

how do i do the lines

[carmine marsh]

Look at the ||zote|| on my name

U in mobile or keyboard

[desert stream]

just copy paste if you dont know: ||

[spring mesa]

Shift press the backslash

[wispy abyss]

So much of my attempts are like this

[reef saffron]

|| lost kin ||

but im tryna do them all one by one

[silk heron]

||grey mourner where||

[reef saffron]

on the hardest level

[acoustic sigil]

||Having an odd number of masks would probably help||

[primal ibex]

A bit more towards the left I think

[spring mesa]

You can also type /spoiler before your message

[reef saffron]

ok

[desert stream]

||to your left, theres a breakable wall going up||

[reef saffron]

||im tryna do radience level on all the bosses in godhome||

[polar flicker]

|| what charms u using and id also recomend getting more masks ||

[reef saffron]

can anyone coach?

[desert stream]

for ||lost kin||?

[carmine marsh]

Herb can

[silk heron]

||found it above the chest. gonna do delicate flower thx guys||

[desert stream]

gl

[golden flower]

||radiant lost kin is just taking advantage of the very low combo stagger hit count (7), along with fireball multihits||

[reef saffron]

like js on a call

[silk heron]

||Is dreamgating at grey mourner good?||

[reef saffron]

with screensahre

or soemthing

[desert stream]

yes definieyl

[silk heron]

||also what charms do i get??||

[desert stream]

every time you fail you can go back

[reef saffron]

i dont wanna have to keep switching between controller and keybaorD

[polar flicker]

|| if ur having trouble with balloons id recomended dcrest ||

[desert stream]

||grubberflys elegy|| really helps

[polar flicker]

I can't do a call rn

[wispy abyss]

||Stalwart, Soul Catcher and Sprint Master||

[polar flicker]

This is a rlly bad build for him

[silk heron]

anything else?

[polar flicker]

What charms u got

[golden flower]

||catcher does nothing, theres no soul gain||
other two arent great

[polar flicker]

Send pic

[silk heron]

||ive got every charm in the game||

[polar flicker]

And ur inventory

[desert stream]

||longnail, mop, if you want you can use weavenest or glowing womb or smth||

[wispy abyss]

I’m too lazy to find a bench…

[polar flicker]

Smh

[golden flower]

||for flower, nailmaster's glory and eater/shaman/twister
maybe weavergrubs if its that bad (its not)||

[acoustic sigil]

||Shaman stone, quick slash, strength, dwielder, soul eater||

[polar flicker]

Find one if u want help

[silk heron]

current build

[acoustic sigil]

You don't need a bench to open your inventory

[silk heron]

current build

[acoustic sigil]

||I'd highly recommend including spells, shade soul just allows you to destroy pretty much everything||

[wispy abyss]

I gotta go all the way back to find one and equip things

[desert stream]

where are you

[polar flicker]

|| on top of more masks and id also recommend more notches ||

[silk heron]

ahem

[acoustic sigil]

What about it

[polar flicker]

|| also based on this I feel u haven't upgraded ur nail ||

[silk heron]

ive got pretty much every upgraded spell

[desert stream]

ok?

what about it

[silk heron]

anything to make notes on how to use em?

[acoustic sigil]

That supports what I said?

[silk heron]

yeah sorry sorry

[desert stream]

||use shade soul to clear enemies||

[silk heron]

ok

[acoustic sigil]

||https://youtu.be/pfJhs5Pwb1w||

[polar flicker]

|| use quick cast if u aren't ||

[wispy abyss]

||Where Failed Champion is???||

||I will indeed need to upgrade my Nail first too||

[desert stream]

theres a bench at ||ancestral mound|| right next to it

[silk heron]

alr i think im ready

im goin in boys

[polar flicker]

|| id recomend getting more notches, masks and charms and upgrading ur nail ||

Before

He's a pretty tanky boss

[wispy abyss]

I can’t get to the ||Mound||

the path is blocked

[desert stream]

oh yeah that happens

[craggy karma]

atm is fucked aswell

[desert stream]

i forgot mb

[polar flicker]

|| well u don't need mound to get more notches and charms or upgrading ur nail ||

[wispy abyss]

||Am I gonna be locked out of the Dream Stuff after a certain point?||

[desert stream]

no

[wispy abyss]

I need to shake this “Do everything ASAP to get the full proper experience” mindset off

[gentle dawn]

True

Do it after u beat the game

[wispy abyss]

And the “If I can’t beat this hard challenge then I won’t be able to truly appreciate Silksong when I get to it because I’ll l be in an even worse place since it’s harder” mindset too

[gentle dawn]

Imma be honest just to clear ur mind

After hk, silksong isn't that hard

[primal ibex]

I think you mean it the other way round

SK is really hard

[silk heron]

||EZ FIRST TRY DELICATE FLOWAAAA||

[gentle dawn]

Goes both ways imo

[gentle dawn]

YOOO

Crazy

[silk heron]

this ez

js move around

[gentle dawn]

Yeah if u play without knowing how to play hl/SS games

[silk heron]

||only used shade soul once||

[gentle dawn]

But if u have played hk it wasn't that hard

[gentle dawn]

Tuff

What u gotta do know?

[gloomy nebula]

ok this build is good i got to ||markoth|| first try kind of easily but i struggled with ||failed champion cause he moves so fast and markoth cause i was impatient||

[primal ibex]

Didn’t happen with me

[silk heron]

||get 2 more mask shards||

[gentle dawn]

Oh

Maybe I'm just goated hehe

[gentle dawn]

Then how much percentage?

[desert stream]

search up the cheese technique for ||failed champ|| on youtube, it makes the boss super easy. also practice ||markoth|| a lot

[simple galleon]

boring...

[desert stream]

ok bruh

he can do it if he wants

[gentle dawn]

Any tips on doing ||markoth on rad|| hehe

[silk heron]

||lemme js go to grey mourner||

[primal ibex]

Don’t recommend cheeses

[gentle dawn]

WAIT SHE WILL USE HER DOMAI-

[silk heron]

Haha

[gentle dawn]

True but at the end of the day it's their choice

[wispy abyss]

WAITWAITWAIT

THE FUCK

I DID IT

[silk heron]

||i got my mask shard and she dissapeared||

||103 percent completion||

[gentle dawn]

Did what

[wispy abyss]

@polar flicker @desert stream ||I SOMEHOW DID IT||

[silk heron]

it took me ALOT to beat that guy aswell. Proud of ya son

[gentle dawn]

W

[placid notch]

||guys im not gonna beat abs rad first try but any tips while i practice?||

[wispy abyss]

And with the shittiest loadout

[nimble steppe]

That fight leaves you breathless the first time you get all the way through