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bc it gets kinda annoying
Ehhhh….i don’t know how should i feel about that
Stop laying to him
||nkg|| is a rlly learny boss, once you REALLY fight him alot u just easily dodge him
tho never like very easy
Im excited but also knows that i will die a 1000 times in silksonh
only 1000?
can you not send gifs
spoiler mark them
nope
due to spoiler potentional
No 2354 is correct
||nkg genuinely becomes free after you practice him enough||
i dont thinnk you can
idk, i dont use gifs on here
If you beat him more than 50 in a row
Yeah
what boss took yall the longest?
50 in a row is an overexaggeration
way too much of an overexaggeration
imo after 3-5 clears it gets easy
This just isn’t true
Nooo not that much
he's just too repetitive
wait thats the one i was gonnna send
I know
currently its my first playthrough so ||normal grimm or thk||
wild
Is there a way to count how many times you died ?
ye ik i just wanted to show u how
no
I'm just dying on || hornet II ||
oh ok im so slow rn
what are you struggling with
Santinel
Repetitively
Even with mods ?
same, it was really annoying
you should spoiler that
Same here
you can do it with mods but not in vanilla hk
i got it
I see
you can write it down every time u die : )
too much work
most of us are too lazy
fr
You are right
true, beating every single boss in the game in a row we can do, but writing numbers????? no no no
True
I died || 131 times now ||, and i struggle on how to get her down faster. But I'm not sure on my || charm setup ||
has anybody here beaten panth 5
dude taking a break from the screen to write down a tally mark genuinely takes me out of flowstate for the rest of the run
pings off please
me
Me but
HOW????
Only 1 time
tbh, that number is mostly either irrelevant, or quitr easy to keep track of
WHYYY??????????
ehhh idk
Sry
just kinda happened
|||remove dashmaster, thorns of agony and long nail for mark of pride and shaman stone||
unequip ||thorns of agony|| NOW
it eats your ||invincibility frames||
the resolve required to get panth 5 is insane
45 mins😭
Yeah I know
<10 attempts for me btw
the key is to practice the ||hall of gods||
per run right?
yes
just... why is ||thorns|| there... it basically reduces ur iframes because u get stunned for longer when u get hit, u should prob use ||sbody|| instead, u need some getting used to it tho
yes but you can take breaks in between
oh guess that makes it a bit easier
can you ever practice ||absolute radiance||
Yes
Yes
for tips
||use your vengeful spirit to clear out spikes and also to double hit her||
me too
i trained || NKG, abs rad and pure vessel until i beat them 3 times in a row||
yes, when you reach her in ||pantheon 5||, you will get her in ||hall of gods|| regardless of whether you kill her or not
So all i have to spit on horhor is just || Magic ||
then do the mark
ye
it's at the top level, right past the ||nkg|| statue i believe
OOOH that makes sense
pings off please
as in, don't wanna give un nessary spoilers, so Ship is asking for his inveotry
can i ask why you need pings off?
wait was that off
ive never done it b4
andddddddddddddddd he pinged her
Ship is photosesntivea nd the yellow hurts
You don't want to know
it's off, you can tell because there's no @ at the start of Ship's name
no i didnt
oh ok
WAIT MB
that was an accident
it's alright
-# who is 'her' exactly
im to dumb to understand can you use like caveman words
||im too dumb||
Tbh yelow kinda looks like the color || piss ||... Oh no... I think i made it color exposed typa thing...
I don't think he can
seeing bright colors hurts your eyes
that doesnt seem like it went over well
it's a medical condition
k
oooh ok
im bored does anyone know anything i can do
best ||hollow knight charms|| discussion
-# Ship isn't a he
dw im bored too
I'm thinking on what || magic || does the most hits/damages..
do you know all of them
isnt there a pronouns section in the roles thingy
which ||spells|| u hav
thats what i was boutta say
i keep doing that too
||right now, in a burst, howling wraiths, but vengeful spirits is more conssitent||
which do yall play on im on pc but i connect a controller
i thinnk its easier
i use keyboard, i started it so now i cant change no more
facts
Ship is genderfluid so their pronouns change too
Me too
may i ask why you speak of yourself in 3rd person?
what are ur controls?
Keyboard
yeah what keybinds do you set
controls like what button to jump
Idk it's been a while
my friend chnged them a ton bc arent the default ones bad?
k
i just use the defaults lol
A I think
coping mechaism
bc i have an fn key arrow keyss dont really work
ok
bc my keyboard is compact
Good
how is ||quick cast|| a spoiler, its litterally in the CONTROLS SECTION
It's a spoiler
||because it's crystal dash||
You don't have to know
?
?
its ||crystal dash||?
||ye but when u open the game, u litterally see like ur keyboard and all the controls, superdash is shown, dash is shown, quick cast is shown||
ye
I know
pings off please
waitfuck
mixed them up
||Because it's spells||
Why did I say that
for fun ig
Mmmmm
imma go play gd and prob hurt my eyes cya
ispy?
Cya
cya
Gtg bay
already beaten dat im doing nine circles now
k👍
@sonic nymph practice a set path, pre-kill enemies, don't ||bench||
K
you can ||overcharm|| for the quest
Oh yeah I forgot
how do i get to here?
its kind of a maze, just kinda wander around
||The biggest scam i have ever went to since the day i was born i had a fcking 12000 geo that went down just to prove that im a good boy ||
Good work team cherry
u need 3000
For what ?
how do I know when I can join the voice channels?
Cause i had more
||vessel fragment||
That’s even worse
112 percetege thing soooooooooooooo
No i meant that the game got bugged cause i had 12000 that i wasted and didn’t get anything
What a joke
u sure u didnt had 1200?
Im sure
Cause i selled the whole artifact thingys
thats even worse
|| i’ll turn myself into shade irl at this point ||
||Fungal Wastes||...
I'm trying to either leave and go to literally any other place or go in the direction where I saw ||Hornet|| at, I don't have the map yet so I can't really say where I'm stuck at, and 9 times out of ten I can't pogo the ||purple mushrooms|| correctly and end up falling
I need tips I hate ||fungal|| so much bro 💔
from which way did u enter it? (say the name of the area)
I went in through ||Forgotten Crossroads||
Damn ||nightmare grimm is so fast ||
facts
Thankfully im a fast learner i’ll kick his butt
Died 11 times😭
Can’t wait for another 50 deaths
I don't know what room you're referring to because my memory is horrid 🥹
Also I'm not very close to the spot between ||crossroads|| and ||fungal|| iirc, unless that one room where ||you see Hornet and in the room you have to wall jump to avoid the thorns and acid|| is close to there and it just feels far
Regardless I'm not near that room either because I died there (rip my almost 2k geo), I have no clue where I was last at but it might be the closest bench to there?
||20 deaths just to get rid of of his first phase ||
My advice would be to ||get used to pogoing the mushrooms, Fungal Wastes is a good place to learn and it's a super important skill||
It's definitely hard at first but 100% worth doing
I remember getting stuck there on my first playthrough too
Ok, I'll try next time I get on the game
Just a question are there really hollow knight geniuses who actually have beaten so many bosses with less deaths than the average person during their first gameplay ?
I find it hard to beleive
People dont really track or care that much about first playthroughs
||So i found a dark room and can't see shit. what now?||
don't go there
wait why
because you can't see anything?
the pathway to the right above you
thats the dark place though
it isn't
Then go the other way
the dark place is to your right
then you need to find a way around 
Then find a way upwards
i dont like this area
Its beutifill
area so peak its even in its name
It is
|| Crystal Peak||
i know but the smashers or something are mean and i dont like it
Get the rythym, youre gonna need that in the future
you werent supposed to ||shriek||. if you didnt, youd be able to dodge that.
Then what
WHERE WAS I SUPPOSED TO GO
😭
tbf ||shriek stalling|| is probably the best way to dodge that
240 damage and safe
in that phase, u shouldnt chase him around. be patient
I can see that
yeah, but also im pretty sure it was to deal damage.
I didnt expect him to use ||the swords thing|| 😭
i guess im done with this channel im already tired
okay good night
You could’ve used ||ddark|| for the iframes and then || dashed|| through the ||lazer||
I dont have master reflexes twin
Bye
hey so i just installed mods for the first time and idk if it was there before on my unmodded game but it looks like theres a lot of grainish or visual noise around my character, more prominently where the light dims, but where there isnt light as well. is this normal and im just seeing it now?. The only mods i put were HKMP and healthdisplay and custom knight
how do i get out of the ||soul master|| place?
theres a sneaky breakable floor near a ||soul totem||
it should be a little bit clearer
||soul totem???||
the things that give soul when hit
after ||soul master||? probably up
not to be completely unhelpful bc i barely know the context but your stuck at ||soul master|| right?
bc there is a somewhat hidden ||desolate dive|| hole thingy you need to go down
there is like 5
up where?
i managed to get out dw
im at ||forgotten crossroads ||now
How do I open this door thing idk what it is
its opened with ||bindings||
8 total
A lot
one for each dot, each big dot is an ||upgrade|| to something i won't spoil
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the bot to delete them is working well tbf
Guys i have a terrible problem
.
Im on my 2nd run and i forgot to Bring ||lumafly lantern to crystal peak||
||you really don’t need it for c dash||
Do you really need it
Skip it 😭
Special item room?
And theres parkour along with the stupid fly thing
Yeah
It ain’t trust
Just forget about it for now
Grab the ability and progress the area where u actually need ability
Yeah I did a second run and only got that item after very long cuz I couldn’t be bothered to save of for the brightness item
But im stuck in ||crystal peak||
Send me your map
I draw the ability path
||i guess bro, you could have just pogoed off the crystal 🤷♂️||
U can do that?
Yeah
Thats more cool tho
See that big one hanging off the ledge
I did that
U can break that and pogo
For sure
Yeah definitely
||the skip for the pale ore is NOT worth it 😔||
I don’t know how I drew so cleanly on a phone
I lwk forgot that was over there and i didnt even get it, i js did it cause i thought it’d be cool (it was cool and worth it)
No ik where it is
||tbh it would be easier to get wings first for the ore||
But i cant see
Yeah get ||double jump for the ore||
||in that room I think you can just hold up and right||
Hold up
Nah save up for ||lantern if u want dream nail||
?
A gate
Im here at the end/entrence to the room
Did you follow the line exactly
If you look at ur map there’s two things path
U gotta go in the right one
They don’t mean the map
They mean like there’s a gate blocked the parkour room
I can’t even record a video rn if I could I would do it
Lemme check where they are
Is there a lever behind the gate
Yh
Is there a gate above you too
Above that gate there is conveyor going up right?
If there’s a gate there go back to where the blue line starts
And follow it
Hold up
Alr i got it
Damn im counting deaths and surprisingly ||i died 75times while facing nighmare king grimm|| and still couldn’t beat him
But it got easier tho
anything in particular?
||everything after the collector lol||
if on desktop, get ||godseeker+ for halved damage on ascended, p5 health, and segment runs, along with toggleable bindings to use bindings outside of runs
probably avoid sending runs until confident that a pb is reasonable
watch other clears to get a feel for strategies
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qC88RU8IXwrY58MpmXZs14UO1ECRUqBTo12RDVIKIYE/edit?tab=t.h3gfd7sqfyk#heading=h.1kd57ik3x328 is a good resource||
I’m controller 😭
||well, practice those bosses in the hall of gods. Here's some general advice from my half a year younger self #hk-help message||
Hello controller im keyboard
||I’ve radianced all bosses except abs rad 💀||
surely do that before ab
||hey keyboard 😂||
Probably 🤷♂️
also doing a boss hitless once with unlimited attempts doesnt really carry over to runs like that
||I wouldn't recommend going for ab when you're struggling with radabsrad. p5ab to radabsrad is like radabsrad is to kingspass. Probably even much bigger of a gap.
Are you sure you mean p5ab and not P5eb? EB means each binding individually, which is still much, much, much harder than radiant radiance but it's nowhere near AB which is all bindings at once||
||can someone please help me defeat the fucker markoth on ascended||
Nah all at once lol
||use pogos and mark of pride with steady body||
At least that’s what I did for rad
Mostly takes practice
The shield says otherwise
Longer nail trust
||dash slash at the start/end of every shield spin
on phase two transition, use all soul on fireballs (should start after 10 narts)
never pogo, its never the best solution (if it is, your positioning is really bad)
avoid falling down unless its between the nail spawning interval to not have a nail spawn under
dont overcommit to a dash slash if it doesnt look reasonable (ie hes under the lower platforms)
||
||I've seen people do this but also seems harder...||
its much harder
||the shield still hits me during a dash slash||
||radkoth|| from latest finished run
this is far more aggressive than a first time clear should be but the timings are there
||dash slash|| has a comically large hitbox, it can be done from very far away safely
Is ||glowing womb|| good
no
its usually a nerf
Ok
so its a test of patience
yes
well then its a lost fucking cause
I need help, I’m very lost rn. Where should I go after unlocked ||howling wraiths||?
Send screenshot of map and inventory
I thought I killed ||soul tyrant bc he fell though the floor, so checked my phone and I look at my screen and I'm dead|| why the fuck
Average masochist game experience lowkey
Is there a shortcut there, cus I’m not seeming anything and I don’t wanna go through ||city of tears||
||never late to learn to double check and confirm your victory and safety before relaxing and afk after a battle, this can apply to many other games too||
And life ^_^
Call this pausing the game
#1 of gaming, you never look away without pausing
Sometimes even that aint safe, but its in more special cases
whats the best loadout i could do
- Need context, since they are highly situational
- Be aware that they are personal preference
Yeah whatever you enjoy the most, or try something new
whatever is statistically the best?
Again, hard to make statistics when they are personal preference
Depends on playstyle a bit here
A lot actually, i see 2 small builds you could try
ko0kokokok
||shamstone and spell twister or soul catcher if you like spells, or quickfocus + grubsong for more healing||
i only have 6 ||notches||
||soul catcher|| is the better if you like healing, ||spell twister|| is better for ||spells||
||spell twister|| affects ||spells|| better than ||soul catcher||, but does not affect ||healing||.
if you really like ||healing (quick focus)||, then you should rather have ||soul catcher||. ||Spell twister|| goes best with ||Shaman stone|| due to its crazy affect on ||spells||.
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you talk
Bro’s only message
2ned
Dude i died 103 times this mf doesn’t die
who
yo comrade long time no see
||nightmare king grimm||
Da, good to see you again
use ||narts|| they help
||im using controller||
||Pillars||: Make tiny movements leading into a ||shriek|| after the fourth
||Dash Uppercut||: Move a tiny bit towards, then ||shade dash|| through and either get a hit into his back or use a charged ||Great slash||
||bats||: Jump then ||dash|| through the middle. a ||Dash slash|| helps get some damage in + stall you in the air so you don't take damage.
For ||NKG||
I can’t use ||dash slash|| with controller ||cuz I have to hold the button down whilst moving||
i can?
what's your layout
i use nswitch layout on pc cause that's how i learned to play
Rebind? You probably should if unable to do this
||x nail, a jump, b cast, y dream nail, rt dash, lt cdash, joysticks move||
i can use both ||wings|| and ||Dash|| while charging what is wrong with yours
xbox controller x or switch controller x
same for me brother how are you confused
I have trouble holding x and jumping at the same time
just press a with the lower part of your thumb
alright
any help with not selling this pace i really dont want to run again
like the knuckle
…
oh where'd you lose
question is if im going to
taking a break to try to mitigate nerves
is that the final?
yes
....
i can only image the nerves
umm
don't mess up! 😊
not pro tip don't die
||ykw, fuck nail arts. I’m just finna hit him once or twice during shield spin||
if it works it works

||so much for radiant pure vessel 🥀 ||
wdym
||that guy was doable and I can’t even make it past Markoth in p5||
What’s that ?
ability
1 to each
tied pb at least
(||nail arts||)
Oh
do you have any other consoles with hk on it?
just desktop
oh ok
oh i can multi instance on laptop/steamdeck
thats not a bad idea but i fear it wont do very much
I guess its enough for today its night and i messed up everything i’ll play him in the morning
If it took more than 112 death just to beat him i wonder how much will it take me to beat ||PV||
Both fun once you beat them
Im having fun already playing against him tbh
congratulations!
Even tho i die a lot
Not getting very angry is a great skill!
I do get angry just slightly
will do whenever another good pace happens
could be tomorrow could be next year
Trust me if i got angry every time i died in hollow knight my keyboard would be dissasembled down to the screws
Controlling your emotions is a very good skill.
I know for sure that once i will beat him i would wish i could erased the whole fight from my memory and start it all over again
exactly
That is so true especially for hollow knight
An analogy i like making is an escape room
If you've already solved it, coming back just brings back memories, and you can marvel and stare at the designs and how much fun you had but you'll never have that immersion agian.
That is also why spoilers suck
they just give you the answer to the damn puzzle
not very fun
You could think of ||NKG|| as the room itself
Each puzzle is an attack
After each one you solve you get closer to finishing
You could think of HK as the room itself
Each area is a puzzle
After each one you get more abilities (keys/clues) and closer to finishing
That’s actually a very good analogy the beauty in the game itself is during the puzzle solving
Yes
That's why i like challenge running
"Can i solve these puzzles blindfolded"
I rely on my memory of the puzzles to solve them again while still being clueless.
Anything that makes it harder is fun for me, and i wouldn't call that masochism
It's just a puzzle inspired by the original
Memory is a huge part of hollow knight
You need to memorise the pattern and adapt to it
HOLY CHEESE
it's an analogy?
this is more from a logical point of view
||get Markoth stuck between platforms and give him hell||
Bro you’re being so xtreme rn relax
I compare each attack of a boss to each puzzle in an escape room because you need to solve (memorize) them all to win and once you come back after you're done they're very easy. And brute force rarely works (though it can and has for me in both a physical escape room and hollow knight)
I came to poetic game discord i'm gonna make analogies okay
Lol so me rn
That’s a very good analogy i compare the boss fights to chess both relies heavily on pattern recognition and a good memory of previous experiences
each attack is a move?
you should know how to respond and punish it
that makes sense
Yeah
"Hollow knight masochism" is just playing against like grandmasters
Sometimes response shouldn’t necessarly be punishable sometimes you just need to defend which is dodging abilities
check
The game seems more simple when you compare them to board games
Or even puzzles
Escape room has immersion which is good for analogies about playstyles and meta gaming, board games is a better analogy to the micro and macro gaming
Tho i don’t get people who says that hollow knight isn’t for them or they suck
Hollow knight is not for some people
Like if you tried hard enough you can do it
No i don’t mean that
they just want to play monopoly and goof around with their friends
I mean like they say that they don’t know how to play the game
sometimes it just doesn't click
And i'm gonna be honest
Hollow knight's beginning is very boring for a new player.
Or can be.
oh shoot i forgot we're in help lol
It get better after getting the ||dash thingy||
this conversationb has gone too advanced
yes
thats what i was gonna say lol
When the game really picks up
Cause ||dashes will always be fun || lol
Ngl i dropped the game after dying to ||false knight||, but came back to it after i saw smallant's video and was like "oh shit the late game looks SICK" and that's how i got to where i am
Lol that’s the same reason why so many people play celeste as well cause the character has a ||dash ability||which is so cool
Oh that make so much sense
I came to the game cause i saw that TK was so hyped and cheriched so i played to see the reason behind all this
Some people label him as the goat of indie game
no, that's not neccesarily because of that
In early hk the movement can feel repetitive and boring because of how lackluster it is but as soon as it becomes more versatile it becomes more fun
Celeste just has really clean movement. Not tied down to one specific trait
I mean im not saying specific trait but like having a || dash ||is also a part of why people love celeste
Puny wanderer becomes God of Gods
well yes that's most of the movement but there can be clean, satisfying movement systems without that
im saying a ||dash|| isn't the reason i'm saying it's the movement in general
Celeste is very clean movement regardless of ||dash||
True as well
Did you complete 100% of it ?
I’m stuck on ||Lost Kin||
but yes i know about ||wave and hyperdashes||
send charms/abilities
||it’s like EVERY TIME I TRY TO MANAGE THE ORBS I GET HIT OR HE PREDICTS MY POSITION WHEN HE JUMP||
When he does the curved jump, ||dash|| towards where he started jumping. Try and not jump as much as possible.
What are you saying man i thought celeste had only one ending ?
||farewell||?
idk i only got to the peak then quit
Lol me too
Anyway someone actually needs help[
im tired
someone else help them
I got a bit further but it’s ALWAYS these damn ||orbs||
||I think you need shaman stone and soul catcher || @wispy abyss
That way it increases ||spell damage and it’ll help you do more damage and defeat him early||
You already have them btw
Oh I never ||seem to use spells||
||You should you already somehow have shade soul|| which is even greater
||You need shaman stone and hit him with spells ||
Does || dash slash || has more horizontal reach than || gslash ||?
I mean I just ||traded keys I found and used it in the city that’s it||
yes (hitboxes for reference)
||The ground dash attack is what’s getting me most now, the timing is tough||
||The hitbox is so JANK||
His attacks get ||SO FAST YOU CAN’T EVEN LAND A HIT ON HIM||
Thank you sm 
||Hit this orb? No fuck you, dash attack. Trying to evade and hit him? No fuck you he jumps onto you||
||I HATE THIS DASH ATTACK IT ALWAYS COMES WHEN YOU TRY TO HIT HIM AND GET CLOSE OR AN ORB||
I can’t do this
I can’t fucking beat this game
Every fucking time I die it’s to his ||STUPID ASS DASH THATS TOO CLOSE OR GETS TO ME WHEN I TRY TO BEAT AN ORB||
mmm, get geared
try ||defender's crest|| to deal with the orbs and generally more health and damage upgrades always help
What boss are u struggling on?
||Lost Kin||
I beaten him by ||Defender Crest||
||Isn’t that one useless? It just gives you stink||
hey im wanting to mod hollow knight how can i do that?
needs a copy on desktop, from a provider that allows downpatching (gog and steam are the only ones i know of, game pass will not work)
after downpatched to 1.5.78,
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|| it allows you to kill the balloons by just walking around since they die if they get near you, meaning you don't need to worry about the balloons when healing or on the ground ||
||it's actually not useless, it deals damage to enemies and it helped me beat Radiance, so not useless||
||And now I’m back to the JUMP KILLING ME||
||use defender crest, and when you see him jump, immediately dash away and don't touch the goo||
||He still hits you when you dash away||
||go to the edge of the arena and wait until you see the goo and if it's heading your way, go walk somewhere else, or if it's not stay||
I GOT HIIIIM
||Defender Crest helped but the Jump Attack still kept getting me, it’s like he knows where you’re gonna dash||
Thanks sorta for the hints and sorry if I was aggressive
Freindly reminder :Its good that you struggled there are so much complicated bosses than this guy so don’t worry the game is hard by design not that you suck
I js defeated ||bv|| like 3rd try 4 hours in my run.. (2nd play through and beat ||lost kin|| kinda easily)
I have so much yet so little in this run 
||shaman stone|| GENUINELY carried so much
Ooohhhh…
||how do i open this door in the floor. the lever next to me was already hit at some point idk what it did but it didnt open the door||
That's a glitch 
how do i fix it
you can walk around if you really need to be on the other side but i would research the bug a bit
yeah i tried looking online but i couldnt find anything related to it. imma just ignore it
That's a glitch
dont disrespect my boy ||big d defender||
||the crest carried me alot of times||
Spoiler it also
yeah mb
Thank you
:))
Beat till she broke
Lol
I JUST BEAT THE ||watcher knights||
Where do I go after getting ||1800 essence and what does it do||
Nice, I hated this boss
how did you get that much
ngl, the boss was kinda fun
they only give like 100 tho
I only have ||dream dung defender|| left
No what 😭
ohh
They give like 300
so its for every boss?
Not every boss only a few
ohk
Examples if you're curious: ||soul master, false knight, dung defender, broken vessel|| etc
||Where did you go when you got dream nail?||
It's been so long since I've played but I'm remembering now
So where do u go if i may ask?
||There is no tower in resting grounds, just a cozy space with the last moth||
||Look at the photo I sent idk it reminds me of a tower lol||
||do you see the vendor room higher?||
Yea
I dont
I don't remember
There is no tower
I was talking about this
if it goes up its a tower ahh 🥀
So this is also a tower?
it looks pretty tower ngl
||Its littery mado out of mushrooms only||
its still tower like
Hello, after installing a mod, my character has a big white block
How can I fix this?
||Im I doing it wrong the climb||
good chance
mobile??
Mhm
damn
bro i defeated ||radiant oro & mato|| but at the same time as they defeated me so it doesnt count 😭
poor you lol
okay i finally did it
Did what?
||radiant oro & mato||
my biggest problem was my reaction time tbh
im still scared for what comes next
Just ||Ogrim and abs rad then you'll be, void given focus||
what does ||Ogrim|| mean 😭
||Ogrim is the real name of White defender||
oh yeah
i never learned to memorize that tbh 😭
tho i feel like i more consistantly have struggled with ||zote|| in the past, feels too unpredictable to me
||Do you hate radiant markoth?||
then again i do play pretty carelessly so idk
i did for a while yeah
||Well u are doing great
If u want a faster way its just hanging on the sides of the small platforms and jumping immediately, it takes a bit of practice but reduces the speedrun time ||
||I still do, more unpredictible then Zote||
fair
😭
most of my deaths were just me being careless since i used ||a nail build+grubberfly's elegy||
Oh alright
once i locked in it wasnt terrible but again if i get careless at all it all goes down the drain
Im just practicing for ||p5ab and p4ab||
That guy is a terrorizer
||p-ab means, penthoean all bindings right?||
ye
Yep
you cant get to ||godhome|| without ||dive|| right?
Not telling
Explore it
no im there rn i just wanna theorize the stupidest challenge run
||Low % speedrun||
okay not the STUPIDEST but pretty stupid
just wanna get there with as few things as i possibly can
U are speedrunnning or its ur 1st playthrough?
neither
Hmmmmmmm idk
ive played several times but i wouldnt necessarily call it speedrunning
Casual
my problem is idk if i can classify what im doing as casual or not 😭
to get to ||dream nail|| you also need to do the ||dashless and clawless blue lake shade skip|| i think right
i hated trying to do that last time and i gave up after a while
wait no
you need ||VS|| for that dont you 😭
yeah idk what to even do atp then lol
unless
can you get to the ||peaks dropdown to resting grounds|| without ||dash or claw||?
Oo so u have played it ok , ya u can get there without ||dive.|| from the|| city of tears entrance || but u need|| 2 simple keys ||
Do yall wanna know smth || very annoying and raging ||?
isnt that locked from the inside tho?
What ?
Nup ||godhome ||
huh 😭
Wht ?
well to get to ||godhome|| you need ||dive|| dont you? and the other ||shortcut|| is only locked from the inside of where you need to go, no?
@balmy kraken ||should I get the speed runs achievements||
U need|| 2 simple keys , mantis claw and wings , I am not sure abt wings tho || I guess these all u need
Depends on u if want a challange
Or try ||steelsoul ||
Sure
When im done with the important things first
👍
😅
turns out you 100% need ||claw for peaks||
wasnt sure until now but i checked
and to get ||claw|| you need either ||dash or vengeful spirit||
so my theory run is 100% dead i think
I think there’s a way
idk what youre gonna suggest but i shouldve also mentioned ||VS|| in that message
if that changes anything
I’ll look for it later
alr lmk if/when you come to a conclusion
i think its impossible but im still new to tricks like ||fireball skips|| so im going off of some basic knowledge
From the ||dark room bench||, keep going up the ||flipping platforms|| until you reach the upper transition || https://youtu.be/63OjOaZ4hjc?si=oU4Qwr6dqJ8-woLP||
just out of curiosity, how did they get into ||peaks without lantern||? did they mod it just to make it harder 😭
but ty lol
This is a Randomizer skip, so it can be possible
ahh i see
i just wanna basically see the minimum items i need for ||godhome|| but i think i still do need ||dive|| even after everything unless im mistaken
can you even get to ||city/soul master|| itemless? if not theres no point in me doing this unless i dont need ||dive||
You can get to ||city|| itemless
still grateful for you helping at all but theres still so much to think about 😭
do ||spells|| classify as "itemless" or will i need a ||VS|| skip
This is how
|| https://youtu.be/hF0yeYXLQWg||
o dang
i thought you needed ||VS|| for that tbh
i couldnt even do it with it ffs 😭
im gonna suffer arent i
btw do you know if ||longnail|| would make it easier or harder? i dont mind grabbing ||charms|| since i can just unequip them
so id like to know if it might help or not
I think ||longnail|| can make it a bit easier
ok ill keep it in mind then ty
This is a list of every Randomizer skip if you need it
|| https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1k7HPl7ST6xzMNPSa0MhGWuDw_mSL9FQR-kwC2sgADbQ||
holy 😭
guys, how tf I'm gonna fight ||Mantis Lords?||
Learn the pattern
It's pretty easy after u learn it
If they attack from above, go to the side
||If they are dashing, jump up, pogo and go to the corner where they are gonna end the dashing animation and hit them again||
pretty dead in here
can you vc? i want your opinion on if you think im doing fine
ive gotten close like 3 times but close isnt enough so idk if theres some microadjustments i should ba making
also the vcs here are locked for me (im new here so that might be why idk) so vc call would be preferred if youre available
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Can you record a video of some attempts?
wait so why could i send an image if i cant join a vc
i could try sure
You can always send images/videos in a few chats
ooh okay
best way to farm geo
What abilities do you have/what areas do you have unlocked
||after geting mantis claw, im skippin the parkour section for city of tears and going to get crystal hart||
heart
Is this your first playthrough?
second actually
it is a bit long since i accidentally killed ||my shade|| but hopefully thats fine
and you can see the last attempt was likely the closest since it revealed the opening
||Then I would guess you know the parkour to get cdash is harder than the parkour to get to city||
ik but im still doing it
||But anyway at this point in the game the best geo grinding spot is probaby moss knight before hornet||
||couse if i get crytal dash, i can also get dream nail early||
||You don't need cdash for dream nail||
||You can just dash your way through that parkour||
Maybe join the speedrunning server and ask there
||ik, but theres a section in crystal peak that leads to dream nail place||
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Also hello thommie
too anoying to fight
i feel like i get nowhere near enough height for the skip idk what im doing 😭
just in case, you dont happen to know if this is only possible on old versions do you?
idk if ||movement/shade physics|| differs between versions
I think it might be fps dependant but I’m not sure
Yeah ask in the speedrun server
it for sure works on theversion before current
hm
that is, if ur on console, idk
im on pc
than it should work, ive done it a few times for randos
do you know if you could tell me what i might be doing wrong?
i do have vc perms now so if youre free
i did ask in the speedrunning server but idk when i might get a response
sure ill try, im not on expert on it in any regard tho, so keep that in mind
if youve done it you at least know more than me and anything helps 😭
im in vc 3 whenever youre ready
what do i need to do to reach ||nkg||
@timid axle yeah you need to try and lose as little height as you can
@timid axle yes you need ||dive|| there
Depends really, have you started the quest in the first place? If not, send your map and inventory
ive already beaten ||troupe master grimm||
Then just ||grab grimmchild and gather the flames on your map||
didn't he send to to collect ~~child support ~~||flame a||gain
ohh another ||round of flames||? okay thanks
Yes, afterwards just go ||back directly into the tent and head to the very end, you still need grimmchild to fight nkg just as you did for regular grimm||
yeah and ||dream nail him i suppose?||
thanks for the help
nonsenf
where can i find more defense focused charms?
||looks youve gotten most of them, only left i can come up with right now is hive blood which is located in the hive, shape of unn which makes you able to heal and move located the lake of unn, but looks like you are also missing the deep focus or quick focus whichever one you are missing.||
aside from that i dont think there is many other "defensive" charms left
than what you have
ok, ill get them, thanks
no prob, they are extremely situational tho, but you should js try them out on your own
An unc too spoiler?
what
No tag uncspoiler found.
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what is happening
but i asked for the defensive charms i had left i dont think its unnecessary
I guess but he didn't have to outright tell names imo,
oh i see
i mean ig i dont mind it tho
how is that an uneccessary spoiler, the name of the charm. lol
ye well they asked for a defensive charm, it only seems right to argue for it being one
All of them have an s on the end
What should've happened is you asking them if they want the area's or charm names, and potentially also check if they have found the areas before naming them
Like|| the hive ||is commonly not found at this point yet
that is way past the ||hive||
||A lot of people either enter from the kings station entrance so miss the option for hive entirely or don't see the breakable wall||
that sure is a possibility, i see yalls point, ill make sure to not tell uneccessary details from now on

not permpsa 
I meant all tags that end on something spoiler
But yes permspsa would have been better than permpsa, idk I didn't make it
(It is partially my fault that it's called permpsa but I shift the blame to zal)
😭
I am going to do || radiance soon any tips||
Use ||quickslash||
K and??
||perhaps shaman stone||
don't chase her
play more defensively
Oh ye for || the up cast forgot it's called||
K
|| this will be my set Shaman stone quick slash unbreakable health and strength||
Do it first then ask for tips
fr
this is #hk-help
I linked a message
oh
||THIS FUCKING SOUL WARRIOR||
This is impossible
||THE GHOSTS KEEP SPAWNING ON TOP OF ME WHEN I JUMP||
I have died like.....16 times now?
Max times I've hit him is 12?
yes
I need to hit approx 40 times
@keen wigeon
at least, get to the end
some parts arent required
U SAID ||WHITE PALACE|| IS OPTIONAL
NO I DIDN'T?
U FUCKING SAID
Omg bruh
||path of pain|| is optional
17 deaths now, hits landed:4
Yes that's what I was saying 💔
And I need 40....
Brainless peice of toast 🥀
Come in cursed homies vc ima screenshare
What do u expect from a toast
🥀
BRO HAS A CAR
THIS ONE PROBABLY
Why we talking in here anyway isn't ts for help
yee
do it
20 deaths, 5 hits landed
bro he isn't even a boss 😭
21 deaths, 11 hits landed
he's an excuse of some kind
These ghosts are the shitiejzjodkr
