hk-help

[deep edge]

damn

i shoul

d

[faint quartz]

i mean its ur username

[hard minnow]

HOW LONG?!

[modest sparrow]

which one

[crude cliff]

...

[neat karma]

no its not

[crude cliff]

The one that still fits my username

[neat karma]

how the fuck did it get that display name wtf

[faint quartz]

I mean your handle or whatever

[hard minnow]

Honestly on both games it is the one who gave me thz most trouble

[modest sparrow]

i dont even get it

[crude cliff]

My 2nd across both games took 6 days (it was in silksong)

[faint quartz]

both??

[crude cliff]

The difference is insane

[hard minnow]

Around the same for me aswell

[faint quartz]

i think i should know who this is

[crude cliff]

Dont say it

[hard minnow]

Yeah, itt is pretty hard and unfair

[crude cliff]

That wasnt mine

[faint quartz]

who is it

[hard minnow]

He said that it still fits his username, wich means it isn't part of 112%

[crude cliff]

Check #sk-discussion

[hard minnow]

Think about it

[crude cliff]

For my #2

My #1 is ||absrad||

Technically it isnt 2 months, but I am still practicing her because I need consistency
The first defeat still took 7 weeks

[faint quartz]

yeah that one took me a full week to learn

[modest sparrow]

damn

[faint quartz]

3 weeks to fully learn the boss for me

[deep edge]

i prob was so close

it started spamming the digging thing and orange things

[crude cliff]

I got everything else down too

All other bosses

And this one is just...

[crude cliff]

It only does orange if you are far away

[deep edge]

oh

[simple galleon]

That's not encouraging...

[deep edge]

well i died to it cuz i was too close tho

[crude cliff]

I tried to give technical insight

[modest sparrow]

what orange digging thing

[golden flower]

||traitor lord's glaive and shockwave respectively||

[crude cliff]

The context is ||traitor lord||

[modest sparrow]

whats orange tho

[golden flower]

glaive

[faint quartz]

do you know walk storage?

[deep edge]

what is walk storage

[modest sparrow]

who

no

whats that

[faint quartz]

when ||tl|| uses glaive/shockwave, it can randomly run into afterwards

only after it walks or ||dashes|| u r safe

[simple galleon]

Yes, and it SUCKS!

[modest sparrow]

ehat does this mean?

[golden flower]

upvote
true, agree

[deep edge]

gg

its 12am

[modest sparrow]

oh ok

[deep edge]

or pm

idk

now i am gonna quit

probably forever 😄

[modest sparrow]

its 11pm for me too

[simple galleon]

I belive you will get it soon

[modest sparrow]

nooooo pls dont do that

[faint quartz]

when i did him ||radiant||, i was pissed that he ran into me. i googled why so i know

[faint quartz]

use the sleep buff

[crude cliff]

I think it might be fixed
I had that happen a lot but not anytime recently

[faint quartz]

really? wow

[simple galleon]

That would be amazing!

[crude cliff]

Thats coming from ||2 hours of p4-charmless and ascended and charmless traitorlord||

Quite some testing but not 5 hours straight

[golden flower]

not mentioned in any recent patches

[crude cliff]

Thats the thing, its just a hunch

[finite sparrow]

Fighting ||uumuu||, what should I use

[deep edge]

bye

[modest sparrow]

ue but pls dont quit

[golden flower]

[crimson cape]

||spell build||

[simple galleon]

Do you have the list of all changes? Steam just says "Various small fixes" at the bottom of the latest patch notes

[finite sparrow]

Ok

[modest sparrow]

what happened to ||all the grubs/why is grubfather so massive after collecting all of them||

[golden flower]

metamorphosis

[modest sparrow]

they merged?

[deep edge]

lets see

[golden flower]

it could be there but thats a significant enough change to warrant being on the main list
could do ab testing to see if it happens on lp compared to 1.5.78

[simple galleon]

Not sure how true this is, but I heard he is acting as a cocoon while they transform.

[modest sparrow]

k imma get off too

bye

[faint quartz]

so they become ||grubberflies|| now

[crude cliff]

There is a very niche and weird theory that they become ||the radiance||

Which there is somehow a little evidence for

[faint quartz]

google puss moths

[crude cliff]

I dmed the little evidence that exists

[faint quartz]

||pale king killed marmu bc hes the radiance||

[hoary depot]

Tf u on bro

[faint quartz]

do this

[hoary depot]

Ew their weird

OooOoo it’s also a plane

[crude cliff]

What context did I just miss?

[hoary depot]

Read from here

[ebon copper]

idek what to say

[faint quartz]

no trust

[hoary depot]

I still don’t see how ||Marmu is the Radiance||

[ebon copper]

u good?

[hoary depot]

THATS WHAT I ASKED

Kinda

[faint quartz]

what do adult puss moths look like

[hoary depot]

A ||moth||

[faint quartz]

||marmu||

[ebon copper]

did you grind ||absrad|| for too long, and she got u with the i||nfection||?

[hoary depot]

🤮

[hoary depot]

🤣

[ebon copper]

this si xute tbf, also very not hkhelp topic

[faint quartz]

||radiance||

[ebon copper]

move to lore, or offtopic, the letter is better if you wanna keep the lore ppl happy

[hoary depot]

Bro I need to eat ur a lost cause byeee

[faint quartz]

im done now

back to grinding the guardian ig

[rugged kiln]

Yall got any ||charm build|| recommendations for ||watcher knights||

[hazy adder]

I gotchu

What charms do you have

[rugged kiln]

Current build is ||shaman stone, soul catcher, sharp shadow, unbreakable heart, and steady body||

[hazy adder]

Jst send a pic of your charms

[hazy adder]

Do you do ||spells or nail|| more?

[rugged kiln]

Tryna do ||spells|| for this one for range but I do tend to default to the ||nail||

[hazy adder]

Perfect

[neat karma]

||id suggest changing sharp shadow and heart for strength and grubsong||

oh wait

[hazy adder]

||unbreakable strength, quick slash, mark of pride, and sprint master+grub song or unbreakable heart||

[neat karma]

||remove sharp shadow, heart, and catcher for strength and quickslash||

really ||strength and slash are always musts||

[hazy adder]

This is Also good

[dreamy nymph]

Doing rando rn, dealing with a problem that I can't ||fight White Defender,|| turns out ||bro is just chilling here|| and I have no idea what to do lol, ||I have Awoken Dream Nail and I kinda thought that it's the only thing that's required.|| Is there anything I might also need to do?

[neat karma]

even for ||spell builds||

[neat karma]

||ADNail isnt required for the fight, you need to dive under the platform on the room to your right and dreamnail him there||

[dreamy nymph]

I mean...

[neat karma]

well in the vanilla game ||you need all three dreamers for him to go to sleep||, i dont remember how it goes in a rando, you should probably ask in the rando channel

[dreamy nymph]

Oooooooooooh then I got the problem alright, ty

[rugged kiln]

WOW that made it super easy

[hazy adder]

Did you beat them?

[neat karma]

yeah ||strength increases your damage by 50% and quickslash deeply increases your dps, for the ones you had, soul catcher isnt bad, but you currently have no space for it, and spell twister is a better alternative if youre using it for spells, heart is not too bad either, but becomes increasingly less useful the further you go on you kinda never really need it, and sharp shadow is simply bad, builts bad habits, makes dashing inconsistent, and it has horrible damage||

[rugged kiln]

Yep

[noble peak]

Any tips for ||path of pain last part|| on console

[rugged kiln]

What’s the easiest ||dreamnail fight||

[livid shoal]

||Xero|| probably

[rugged kiln]

No I mean like the ||bosses like the Failed Champion or Lost Kin||

[marble ravine]

the one in ||fungal wastes with the rings||

[simple galleon]

Well easiest of those is still quite the challenge...

[rugged kiln]

I ask out of curiosity

[simple galleon]

Well there's only what, 5 of them?

[small narwhal]

am the only one who thinks it’s ||marmu||

[simple galleon]

There's probably a few people out there

[small narwhal]

i forgot to the “I” lol it was a question

[solemn bay]

||grimm troupe||

[simple galleon]

I would say ||white defender|| personally.

[livid shoal]

||Xero, Markoth, Marmu, Galien, and Elder Hu. So yeah||

[rugged kiln]

Ah

[livid shoal]

Ah

[rugged kiln]

That’s not what I meant

[livid shoal]

||Lost Kin||

[golden flower]

|| ||

[short forge]

Those are ||dream warriors|| but they're asking about ||dream bosses||

[livid shoal]

I'm aware, now, mate

[marble ravine]

i think ||lost kin||

[solemn bay]

||i would never want to fight markoth in pantheon with all bindings again||

[rugged kiln]

Neat

[golden flower]

hes.. not that different

[solemn bay]

its just you're a lot weaker, and it's super easy to make mistakes

[golden flower]

also (still) easy to recover

[small narwhal]

did u change ur username ?

[golden flower]

that fight just needs patience

[golden flower]

it was te, just a shortening

[solemn bay]

||im just bad||

[golden flower]

fair

[solemn bay]

I make stupid mistakes all the time

and lose the tempo

[simple galleon]

tbf you're not *that * bad if you're strugging with ||radkoth||, you're just great if you can beat it

[solemn bay]

i beated it already

just took a million tries

||all bosses took me less than 5 tries without looking up the strat, until I met the grimm troupe and now everything took 50+ tries||

[noble peak]

Do I need ||absrad|| for ||void idol entry||

[golden flower]

yeah

[noble peak]

Buh

I can’t even beat ||nkg or gpz||

[errant vault]

||nog?||

[noble peak]

Abs then I have to do two more ||pantheon to get absrad bruh||

[errant vault]

Whats that stand for

[noble peak]

Nah I meant ||nkg|| I have autocorrect

[small narwhal]

do they bow bc i have ||kings brand?||

[coarse nest]

Probably yeah

Never explained in game but that's essentially it

[opaque moat]

no

cuz ur ||his son||

[mystic basin]

It’s both I think

[opaque moat]

they bow even if u don't have it

[simple galleon]

||dnail|| dialogue suggests the prior, but as ^ said, it doesn't matter.

[small narwhal]

i’m actually

gonna crash out

the obstacles are so hard here

[noble peak]

Is ||pantheon four|| hard

[noble peak]

If you listen to them they sound kinda scared idk if they are bowing

[tribal kettle]

not rlly

[noble peak]

Like when they bow they make scared noise then go kinda silent

That’s what o thought

[small narwhal]

do u guys have any tips

only lasted 15 seconds omg

[noble peak]

When he jumps towards you

||dash under||

When he jumps away just avoid meteors

Wait send me ur inv

[noble peak]

When he slams u can jump over without ||wings but it’s very accurate use wings if u need a second dodge from any thing||

[small narwhal]

oh yeah i wasn’t holding down jump to make it higher

[noble peak]

U have to be accurate to jump over without ||wings|| is what im saying

Can I see charms

[small narwhal]

ya

[noble peak]

Oh btw there’s a cheese want the cheese or legit

[small narwhal]

what

what’s a cheese

[noble peak]

Do it but u don’t actually have to do anything

For example making an npc fight them and u hide in a corner or smth

Where they can’t hit u

That’s a cheese

[small narwhal]

ohh

[simple galleon]

basically you can kill him without doing anything

[small narwhal]

no i gotta get good at the game

[noble peak]

Yeah

[simple galleon]

which is kinda lame

[noble peak]

Ok

Yeah normally is fun

[simple galleon]

Great spirit

[noble peak]

Ok so swap ||soul catcher for heart since u can’t rlly break it in a dream||

[low escarp]

Thats a good attitude. You can cheese later when you're better for funzies

[worn glade]

Guys is the ||crystal guardian|| runback supposed to be so damn long

[noble peak]

Yes

Sadly

[worn glade]

Shit

Better then ||soul master||

[noble peak]

It’s really easy tho only two attacks

[simple galleon]

Yes, since it's literally sitting on the next bench.

[noble peak]

I mean yeah better than that thing

[small narwhal]

OK TY!! will be trying ur tips tmw i have to go to bed

[noble peak]

Ok cya

What’s the fourth hardest boss I forgot

[worn glade]

Is ||gathering swarm, wayward compass, thorns of agony, soul catcher, and grubsong|| a good charm combination?

[simple galleon]

For ||crystal guardian||? No.

[worn glade]

Damn

[noble peak]

Take off ||gathering swarm ||

[worn glade]

But I need the geo

[simple galleon]

1. ||Compass and swarm are not needed||
2. ||Thorns reduces iframes, there are SO much better options||

[noble peak]

And ||thorns||

[noble peak]

U can just walk over it bruh

[worn glade]

Ok what should my build be

[noble peak]

Plus the boss drops a bunch anyways and ur ||shade|| has some too

[noble peak]

Send charms

[worn glade]

Can't rn

[noble peak]

Bruh

Ok

Do u remember which ones u have then

[simple galleon]

Well the rule is we can't spoil charms you don't have, so that makes it kinda hard.

[mossy star]

Hello!!! Just starting HK for the first time!!!!

I’m assuming this is the best place to stay spoiler free?

[polar flicker]

Yes

Don't click on stuff not addressed to you

[jade mauve]

you should only use this channel if you’re REALLY stuck and have no idea how to progress further

have fun tho and gl

[mossy star]

Should I stay away from hk-discussion for spoilers??

[elder crown]

can anybody give me some tips on ||Radiant|| ||PV||?

ive been stuck on it forever

[mossy star]

Did my previous message ‘Should I stay away from hk-discussion for spoilers??’ Get deleted?

👀

[elder crown]

yeah is annyoing

nobody can see it

[mossy star]

Oh weird

[jade mauve]

yeah

[smoky fractal]

hk disc allows all spoilers

[polar flicker]

No

Didn't get deleted

[smoky fractal]

And people frequently talk about late game things

[polar flicker]

Is what no is too

[mossy star]

Okay sweet thanks for the clarification!!

[near forum]

Yep

[elder crown]

oh

im blind

im ||No eyes|| I swear

[polar flicker]

Hello

[jade mauve]

i have ||no eyes|| and i must see

[smoky fractal]

hiii

[elder crown]

dont have eyes

hah get outsmarteds

[jade mauve]

blind works just as well

[dim garden]

||during the attack when he shoots his swords u can use shade cloak to phase through them, when he uses the void tentacle attack try jumping as high as possible and use wings and you should be safe when you land. Try doing it like 2-3 times on attuned for a warm-up and maybe a few times on ascended and then try doing radiant (every day when you go to try do a few warmups)||

[west slate]

may i have an assist with ||marmu|| (nvm... lmao)

[fringe mortar]

What happened

[west slate]

it was very easy once i used a nail build

[frozen lance]

Yo, I got my first Controller after playing PC, and tips?

[fervent valve]

|| how do i deal with the explosive bugs in infected forgotten crossroads ? ||

[frozen lance]

||Run pas them, just run, or dash past||

[fervent valve]

No way to || safely kill them || ?

[frozen lance]

why kill them?

do you need it for sm?

[fervent valve]

|| hunter journal ||

[frozen lance]

||Then the chase you and hit the ground or any surface and explode, you still get hunter journal progress||

You don't need to directly kill them

expecially those things

[fervent valve]

Oh aight ty

[frozen lance]

Or anything really

||If they die to nature in your presence or after you hit them once, you still get progression||

[fervent valve]

Oh alright || also the lower pathaway to charm notch seller is blocked, is there a way to unlock that after crossroads become infected ||

[frozen lance]

Yes

There is

||Just go from dirt mouth all around to get there, I'll see if I can find a picture||

Gimme a sec

[fervent valve]

Is there a reason why its blocked ?

[frozen lance]

||There is a reason, the fungal growth gets bigger and makes certain enemies more funged up, explosive even, resulting in some of these paths to get blocked and stopping the player to get shortcuts later in the game, so if you start a new run, get everything that you can get from salubra early, and things like the blessing and notches later on when its blocked off||

||the orange shows where it's blocked off, so just make your way around the map, adice: Go from dirtmouth through the well, not the stag||

[fervent valve]

How do i || remove the infection ||

[frozen lance]

You don't

[fervent valve]

Damn

[frozen lance]

this is a permanent change once you get|| items that make the crossroads infected||

want me to list the items off?

[fervent valve]

|| does the infection happen to other maps too || ?

[frozen lance]

no

[frozen lance]

It happens in two cases, ||Getting double jump (Monarch wings) or killing one of the dreamers||

[fervent valve]

Thats a relief

[fervent valve]

Yeah i got || monarch wings ||

[frozen lance]

really fucking is

[frozen lance]

then yeah

funny thing is

||Even if the cross roads get infected Myla doesnt get infected, you can beat the game without getting the stuff that makes Myla infected (C dash and Dive)||

you do know who that is, right?

[fervent valve]

Yes i love her song

[frozen lance]

same!

I even found the lyric one

[polar flicker]

U can but u have to do alot of skips

[frozen lance]

shit ton really.

I'll atempt it once I've mastered the art of controller gaming, I've mastwered keyboard

[fervent valve]

Yeah i love her song but not that much

[frozen lance]

fair

wanna call so I can help you with anything else?

[fervent valve]

Nah im fine for now, only needed to know the || infection path block reasons ||

[frozen lance]

ok

Have fun bud!

Dm me if anything!

got lore and shit

[fervent valve]

Bet ty gng

[icy blade]

||Wait what's the easiest way to get to the other side of the city of tears?||

[frozen lance]

which other side?

[dense panther]

show your map

[torpid yarrow]

the right side?

[frozen lance]

this dumb ass anit even elaborating

@icy blade we can't help if you don't specify

[torpid yarrow]

hes not even online bru

[dense panther]

I know what he means but I need to see his map to know what's best for him

[frozen lance]

exactly

[torpid yarrow]

i think he may mean the locked part that you need to get to from|| resting grounds|| but idek it could mean anything

[dense panther]

ye the one after the statue

which there's actually more than one way

[torpid yarrow]

really?

[dense panther]

yea

[torpid yarrow]

i only know the ||resting grounds|| way lol

[dense panther]

||royal waterways||

is another path but it requires a|| simple key||

[torpid yarrow]

theres another way to get into ||waterways||???????

i feel stupid right now

ive only used the main ways

[royal hull]

||The simple key is like, the main way most people got to royal waterways||

[torpid yarrow]

yeah

[dense panther]

||you are forced to use a key to access waterways but there's a certain skip you can use to access it without using it||

[deep edge]

hello everyone ||the traitor lord struggler is back and even stronger||

im gonna do it today

[untold meteor]

good luck

i finally finished ||2nd trial|| after 2 fdays and a few hours

ima ||upgrade my nail||

[deep edge]

how to see precentage

[polar flicker]

Late game ability

[deep edge]

ohh

i mean i think that im kinda late game

[polar flicker]

Endgame to be more precise

[deep edge]

okay

i was gonna quit yesterday

fully

but i got motivation cuz so many people struggles here so why would i be weaker

I MADE IT FIRST ATTEMPT BRO

i guess i was just too close to crash out yesterday

[polar flicker]

Ggs

[deep edge]

yay

i got ||white fragment from my mom|| i think

[hard minnow]

Exactly

[deep edge]

now i love this game again lol

its all about mentality

if ur gonna crash out u dont fight so well

if ur chilling ur peaking

[hard minnow]

If my ER experience teach me anything it's that when a boss is really strong, your best attempt against it is the first of each session of gaming

[deep edge]

oh damn

i think that i got the timings to my muscle memory after sleeping

and i also did nail only

btw is ||traitor lord|| supposed to be easy?..

[finite sparrow]

Back asking for help, this time with ||watcher knights||

[vague fern]

not really

[deep edge]

good

[hard minnow]

Do you know about ||the chandeler||?

[finite sparrow]

... Yes

[hard minnow]

Inventory ss?

[deep edge]

i found ||trials ||or smth

[hard minnow]

The reawards of the ||first two|| are pretty good (pls put spoilers mark)

[deep edge]

oh ya

i died to the ||orange shooter guys|| 😭

[hard minnow]

Seems normal

Don't forget your ||nail art||

It can one-shot them as they spawn in

[deep edge]

oh yeah

aww man i thought i won but then i lost

ahh it gets so hard after the mini boss

[hard minnow]

Wich one?

[hard minnow]

Ah this thing

[deep edge]

i mean i can do no hit but when he dies then ppl starts spawning instantly and it gets hard

NEW MINIBOSS

[mortal ivy]

Guys best ||charm build|| for ||TMG||

[deep edge]

I MADE ITTT

[hard minnow]

Gg

[deep edge]

yoo ||charm notch||

[hard minnow]

Do you want me to tell the ||reward of the 2nd||

[mortal ivy]

anyone got sum solid ||seven notch charm builds|| for ||troupe master grimm||

[deep edge]

ye it costs kinda much to attend so

[hard minnow]

||pale ore||

And 2k

[deep edge]

yo i actually need that for ||nail upgrade||

[hard minnow]

Ik

[deep edge]

i need 3 of them i have 1 rn

ahh i died to him

[mortal ivy]

ts my ||charms||

[untold meteor]

guys how to upgrade my ||blast spell||

where on the map

[mortal ivy]

||soul sanctum||

[untold meteor]

yea but like where

[mortal ivy]

||wait u have the key? U need crystal then shopkeeper, and buy off sly||

[mortal ivy]

yknow when u enter || there is two paths||

||well go to the left and up then slot in key and fight him||

[deep edge]

damn ||infected caterpillar||

[hard minnow]

Go get some ||charm notches||, you should have 10 at this point

[mortal ivy]

where bro😭

[hard minnow]

You can ||dream nail it while it is in the jar for free soul||

[deep edge]

oh

i died :/

[swift cypress]

im struggling with ||the collector|| not because hes hard but because hes annoying

like omg

[hard minnow]

If you got them all from ||salubra||, there's one north of ||fog canyon||, one in ||fungal|| that you should have rn and one in ||the 1st collo||

[swift cypress]

too much health and so loud

[hard minnow]

Get a nail strong enough to os it's spawn

Maybe get some range and spawn kill them

[deep edge]

didnt work

prob cuz its the idea to fight here

[hard minnow]

Really?
Surprising
It does work against the overworld one so it's still is a nice tip

.....

[deep edge]

i died again kinda hard

[mortal ivy]

anybody know an easy way to get geo fast for ||selubra's charm notches||

[hard minnow]

||Collo|| or ennemy farm

[mortal ivy]

aight... last time i tried it twas too hard but sure

[hard minnow]

Did you complete the ||journal page|| for ||crystal guardian||

[mortal ivy]

nope

[hard minnow]

Then go do it, it is just north of the ||bench in the center of crystal peak||

[swift cypress]

||charm layout|| for the ||collector|| boss? :')

[wet spire]

do you || 1 shot the minions with fragile strength||

if so then use it

otherwise thats fine

[mortal ivy]

||spell twister is op for oneshotting spawns quick||

[swift cypress]

my ||nail upgrade|| is enough to one shot

im sturggling on ||soul gathering|| which i assume is pretty common

[wet spire]

yes

[swift cypress]

do i just git gud or is there a better layout :')

[wet spire]

you can || dream nail him when hes staggered ||

or switch || quick focus / shaman -> catcher/twister + sbody ||

[mortal ivy]

||spell twister reduce soul cost||

[swift cypress]

ty guys!!!! i will be back once i (hopefully) kill him !

[mortal ivy]

ok!

[deep edge]

okay wth

i just got pretty good run and then these spawns in

[spark robin]

😂😂

[deep edge]

can sm1 tell me what they does so i can prepare

[spark robin]

?

[red cairn]

||you fought them before||

[polar flicker]

They shoot attacks

[deep edge]

not these i think

[red cairn]

Yes you did

[deep edge]

oh idk

[polar flicker]

U fought the tiny version of them probably

[deep edge]

ye

[polar flicker]

These are fully matured

[deep edge]

so they bounce as well?

[spark robin]

Why i cant talk

[deep edge]

u gotta add spoilers

[polar flicker]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (please see the pins for what is allowed, this changes between both games).
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[deep edge]

oh naaaaa

[polar flicker]

Use || spells ||

[spark robin]

See youtube

[deep edge]

alr

i got this

f this

[red cairn]

Don't try and get around the bot

[polar flicker]

Don't recomend utube

They have lots of spoilers

And stuff they may not have

[spark robin]

i just want him to see what they do

[polar flicker]

He died so pretty sure he knows now
But just keep in mind for future

[spark robin]

Ok , thenks

[deep edge]

i killed one of them

[spark robin]

The second is hard

[deep edge]

back again

I MADE ITTTTT

im NOT doing the last one now

i gotta take a break

[glad kraken]

it take me a few try

it annoying

[deep edge]

took me 2 luckily

[frozen lance]

took me 3

Pain in theass

[deep edge]

||failed champion|| is so hard

any strats?

[deep edge]

i won him

[near forum]

Too late but
||i dash under when he jumps. I also jump above his ground slam and dash towards him.||

[lethal siren]

W

[lethal siren]

I'd recommend doing that really endgame

it's incredibly difficult and would be for the best if you had max upgrades

[deep edge]

yeah good strat was to ||dreamnail when he is stunned to get souls and hit with nail so he wont wake up||

[deep edge]

okay

[lethal siren]

interestingly enough I beat it while I was on a plane lmao

took me like 2 hours with max gear

[deep edge]

oh lol

i have no idea what to do in hollow knight rn

is this bad..?

[small narwhal]

imo yes unless you just speed run in 20 hrs?

i still have lots to do with 60 hrs in my save

but i’m also big on exploration so i take my time

[deep edge]

ye this is my first playthrough the last one in 2022 lasted for 4 hours and i ragequited

[small narwhal]

how far have you gotten?

[deep edge]

uhh i can send inv ss

[small narwhal]

omg

you did all that in 20 hours

[deep edge]

uhh yea

btw i tried to win|| traitor lord ||for 4 hours yesterday

did it first try today

[small narwhal]

i don’t even have the ||shadow|| version of ||desolate dive||

[deep edge]

oh damn

[small narwhal]

if u want any tips i just say keep farming ||essence||

you will unlock something pretty cool

[deep edge]

idk where tho

[small narwhal]

i beat all the ||dream warriors and the essence roots and got to 1800||

also i did ||lost kin but no other dream bosses||

[deep edge]

well i spent a lot of ||essence on traitor lord when i teleported there||

[small narwhal]

oh

why would you do that

[gusty quartz]

yo any tips on ||nkg||

[small narwhal]

don’t spend it lol

[deep edge]

i have beated a lot of ||warriors prob all of them and also 2 dream bosses||

[deep edge]

idk sm1 told me to do that for faster fight

[small narwhal]

i only ever spent ||essence|| to get to the ||moth guy that gives rewards for it||

i prob spent like 4 max

[deep edge]

damn

[small narwhal]

but

the bosses give a lot

so if u do that u should be good

[deep edge]

i have done all i think

[stoic flume]

||Gpz.||

[small narwhal]

you haven’t done all ||dream bosses|| if u only have 1400

oops

how much have u spent ?

[vague fern]

How so

[deep edge]

i have beaten 2

idk any else

[deep edge]

like 100-150

[vague fern]

|| excluding radiance || you could def have <1400

[stoic flume]

I don't get how to use "/spoiler"

[small narwhal]

i beat ||all dream warriors, and only one dream boss and all essence roots and i got to 1800, i still have dream bosses left to do so he should definitely have more than me||

[vague fern]

|| message ||

[small narwhal]

and he said he did all ||dream warriors||

[lone edge]

" || "at the beggining and end

[deep edge]

at least i think so

[stoic flume]

Thanks

[vague fern]

|| you can do all dream bosses without doing warriors or roots yk.. all bosses minus gpz is 1200 ||

[vague fern]

Okay that makes sense then

[small narwhal]

r u sure it was ||dream warriors and bosses||

idk what’s going on here

[lone edge]

||dream trees lwk boring||

[small narwhal]

I KNOW and they barely give anything

[deep edge]

i have beaten at least ||no eyes, galien, gorb and Xero|| bosses: ||Lost kin and failed champion||

[stoic flume]

You could do || White defender ||

[small narwhal]

how much ||essence is tbat||

cuz idk

[lone edge]

||white defender,soul tyrant||

[deep edge]

no idea

[lone edge]

The guy with rings

[deep edge]

oh never heard lol

[lone edge]

I forgor his name

[small narwhal]

||marmoth?||

something like that

there’s a k in it

[lone edge]

FUCK NO

[deep edge]

wait is it ||dung defender||

and dream ||soul master||

[lone edge]

||elder hu||

[deep edge]

aint them hard

[lone edge]

Yes

But you need them

[deep edge]

oh damn

[stoic flume]

How much does || Markoth || give?

[vague fern]

250

[deep edge]

here we go

[timber zinc]

ugghhh

that battle was soo annoying

[stoic flume]

I didn't even bother

[deep edge]

dang i lost

badly

how many times do i need to|| stun|| him

[vague fern]

It depends

its not worth knowing

[deep edge]

aww

[lone edge]

Nail level?

[deep edge]

second best

[lone edge]

53 hits first phase

[deep edge]

damn

[vague fern]

assuming no combo staggers

And no || spells ||

Which is why its not worth knowing

[lone edge]

Yeah just download a healthbar mod

[vague fern]

If anything yeah do that

[wooden obsidian]

yo im boutta fight ||the radiance|| is this charm loadout good or can i imperove it more somehow

[vague fern]

But knowing its health doesnt change much

[lone edge]

True it's just QoL

[lone edge]

Pretty good

[vague fern]

|| twister and catcher together is a bit overkill. Id recommend changing one of them + grubsong into qslash (or qfocus / mop) for even more soul gen and even more damage ||

[lone edge]

You don't get to ||quicklash radiance she's in the air most of the time||

[vague fern]

You absolutely do

[lone edge]

Oh right second phase

[vague fern]

even ignoring the fact you can just jump

There is phase || 4 (plats)||

[wooden obsidian]

yeah i think ||qfocus|| is better, maybe ill put ||gsong + longnail or just use mop||

[vague fern]

And thats also why i gave two other very strong charms as options

[deep edge]

oh no

[vague fern]

|| mop is alot better than grubsong + longnail. Longnail doesnt do much ||

[wooden obsidian]

uh oh

||soulmaster phase 2||?

[deep edge]

||soul tyrant||

[wooden obsidian]

oh my gos

[vague fern]

|| jump -> dash is better than just dashing ||

[wooden obsidian]

phase 2 aint that different from regular ||soul master|| i dont think

hes just a little quicker

[wooden obsidian]

oh yeah

[deep edge]

ye

but im 1 hp

[wooden obsidian]

generational lock in

[wooden obsidian]

yeah tysm

[deep edge]

i died

[wooden obsidian]

ill let yall know how it goes

[vague fern]

Just make sure you || shriek || alot

[wooden obsidian]

try to hug the wall to the left before he ||goes down}|| so you can heal

[vague fern]

Especially at the very start

And also note that || ddark breaks the floor spikes ||

[wooden obsidian]

and prepare yourself for his second phase

[wooden obsidian]

tysm

[wooden obsidian]

really? thank you twinny

[deep edge]

im gonna just lock in

[deep edge]

huhh

[wooden obsidian]

thats how i did it

[wooden obsidian]

so he breaks the entire thing of glass but theres a ;edge you can stand on and heal all your masks

its just timed

its hard to explain

[deep edge]

ohhhh

got it but didnt have ||souls|| tho

ahh died

this is hard

[misty salmon]

Guys I genuinely don't know what to do anymore

[deep edge]

i died again

[deep edge]

bruh|| u killed me in ur second phase|| lol

I MADE ITT

[fringe mortar]

Nice job

[hardy kindle]

What do I need to do to fight the ||radiance||

[fringe mortar]

Whatcha got

Make sure to spoiler

[hardy kindle]

Just beat ||Soul Master|| just wondering when a playthrough starts branching towards different ||endings||

[vague fern]

Very late

and you can get multiple

[fringe mortar]

Ah dont even worry

[spring mesa]

You can get all of them in a single save file, so don't worry about that

[hardy kindle]

Well should I go to ||deepest|| now or get a 🔑 to open the hatch by the statue in ||city of tears||

[hardy kindle]

Phew 😅 I have a skill issue LoL took me way too many tries to kill ||soul master||

[fringe mortar]

Nah its okay. Its normal for first playthroughs lol

[small narwhal]

how to beat ||failed champion?||

i got tips yesterday an i still keep dying

he’s insufferable

[fringe mortar]

If you really cant do it there are cheese methods to follow but i only recommend that as a last resort

[small narwhal]

nOoo

[fringe mortar]

Do the statue

[small narwhal]

no cheese

[hardy kindle]

Is it normal to take 31 hours to get to ||city of tears||? (I got lost a few times)

[fringe mortar]

Alr. What charms you got??

[hardy kindle]

Okie thanks

[small narwhal]

i think i was 20 hrs in when i did? i wouldn’t worry about the hours just have fun !

[fringe mortar]

I'll say its completely fine lol. I think it took me abt ||20 something hours||

I sucked at the platforming a lot that I had to give up and come back

So dont even worry

[fringe mortar]

Switch ||lifeblood for something else||

And use ||spells||

[small narwhal]

i don’t get any ||soul||

like

is that normal?

[fringe mortar]

Maybe take ||soul catcher and use a lot of spells when hes throwing a tantrum ||

[deep edge]

i have 1.8k ||essence ||now

[fringe mortar]

It is. You need to ||dream nail him||

Oh actually forget ||soul catcher i forgot||

Take ||longnail||

[hardy kindle]

Yeah I struggle with ||mantis claw dash|| combos to avoid wall spikes

[small narwhal]

mm ok

[deep edge]

i suck at platforming and fighting 🥲

[small narwhal]

||long nail soul catcher i have 4 notches left||

i mean wait

i have ||long nail and fragile strength rn||

[fringe mortar]

||maybe use longnail instead and remember to dream nail him when hes staggered. Dream nail once, pogo on him once. Do this until your soul meter is full so you can heal while hes throwing a tantrum||

[small narwhal]

what’s ||pogo||

when does he throw a tantrum bc i don’t think i lived that long to witness him

[fringe mortar]

||basically attack his Armour. It resets his stagger time||

[small narwhal]

and i fought him so long ago

[fringe mortar]

Its when he ||starts throwing his staff everywhere in between the staggers. It can sometimes not happen ||

[unborn tangle]

||tips on pure vessel in p4? The charm i use is strength, sharp shadow, and mark of pride||

[fringe mortar]

Dont worry. With practise it gets better

[vague fern]

Dont use || sharp shadow ||

and get more || notches ||

[deep edge]

||pogo is when u do downwards hit and u bounce on the enemy||

[hardy kindle]

Getting to the ||Manti lords|| was harder than phase one of the actual fight

[unborn tangle]

Ok

Thanks!

[fringe mortar]

😭😭😭which bench did you save at

[hardy kindle]

I meant getting the levers needed to unlock it

Saved at the bench closest to ||dash master||

[fringe mortar]

Ah ||i actually didn't know there was a lever for that first door and I was doing dumb parkour everytime||

😭😭

[hardy kindle]

I got them all first LoL

[fringe mortar]

Good thing cause I gave up and went to the ||city|| cause of this lol

[hardy kindle]

Took me forever because spikes and enemies aren't an easy

[hardy kindle]

I did that after, the ||broken bridge|| looked tempting

[fringe mortar]

Lolll

[hardy kindle]

Went through the door, saw the word ||deepest|| said "nope I'ma cross that bridge instead"

[deep edge]

oh my days do i really need to do this

anyone?

[frozen lance]

Yeporino

[acoustic sigil]

Yes

[deep edge]

ahhh

im so stuck here

forever

[west slate]

any ideas for charm builds for ||Galien||?

[lucid tendon]

||fallen Abyss king||

[west slate]

i want to be prepared

[acoustic sigil]

What charms do you have?

[acoustic sigil]

That does not seem related to #hk-help

[west slate]

all but ||kingsoul/voidheart||

[acoustic sigil]

||Do you use spells?||

[royal hull]

||pop doesn't have that part||

[west slate]

not a lot but sometimes ||abyss shriek||. (sorry about pinging you before)

hi ship

[acoustic sigil]

||Abyss shriek is fairly useful against galien. I would use shaman stone, mark of pride, quick slash, spell twister||

Tbh you'll just melt him

You are fairly overpowered lol

[west slate]

oh i'm missing one of the ||notches|| forgot that ||grimm child|| has another phase(nvm i'll use ||longnail||)

yeah ur right i melted him lmao

[west slate]

hey so out of ||lost kin, white defender and soul tyrant|| who is easiest?

[acoustic sigil]

||In my opinion soul tyrant, but if you ask 3 people you'll get 3 different responses||

[west slate]

how is ||soul tyrant|| easy?||er||

[vague fern]

It depends on the person

[acoustic sigil]

I find his attacks fairly easy to react to

[west slate]

well yeah but i find dodging hard and i bearly beat the normal guy

[lofty totem]

||I need a radiance charm setup||

[random spear]

||ddark is your friend||

[random spear]

normal ||radiance?||

[lofty totem]

ye

[random spear]

show inventory

[wet spire]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[random spear]

how the hell am i supposed to tell

[wet spire]

you'd assume that theyre referring to normal if they didnt call it || absolute radiance||

also.. you lwk use the same build for both anyways

[lofty totem]

||did u rly do hitless p5||

[wet spire]

i wouldnt have it in my name otherwise

[random spear]

good enough ngl, but if you're struggling then replace ||shaman for quickfocus||

[lofty totem]

damn ;-;

[lofty totem]

okay

[random spear]

also utilize ||ddark|| as it helps you a LOT

[sonic cradle]

Do the ||rancid eggs|| even have a use??

[wet spire]

yes. you can || give them to an npc in dirtmouth to retrieve your shade if you died ||

[sonic cradle]

Isn't it easier to just find the ||shade|| and attack it?

[wet spire]

not always

[west slate]

it can help if the ||shade|| is in a hard to get to place

[wet spire]

it can be in spots really far from a || bench or stag|| that you are likely to die again in

[west slate]

what arima said

[wary vessel]

any tips for ||soul warrior that guards shade soul||?

[sonic cradle]

Use the ||rancid egg|| in ||dirtmouth|| duh

[polar flicker]

Don't jump around alot

|| kill the follies as soon as they spawn ||

[foggy jolt]

Is ||lifeblood|| lost on ||stags||?

[polar flicker]

No

[foggy jolt]

Oh good

[west slate]

just got ||1800 essence|| what do i do in the ||palace||?

[random spear]

just platform

[glad kraken]

let go

[shut sparrow]

congrats!!

[glad kraken]

50hr for my first playthrough is hell long

[shut sparrow]

nuhuh

for 105% that's pretty average I think

[glad kraken]

52hr

[shut sparrow]

if you go for all achievements you can double that

probably more

most likely

[acoustic sigil]

I had 75 hours for 112

[west slate]

is this ||PoP||?

[glad kraken]

||ah i feel the hardest part for radiance js actually the jumping up part||

[acoustic sigil]

No

[near forum]

Nop

[west slate]

wha?...

what is it then?

[near forum]

Regular ||white palace||

[vague fern]

yes but why would you do all achievements

[west slate]

well ik why ppl think the ||hollow knight|| ate ||buzzsaws|| now...

thank fuck for ||grubsong and hiveblood||!!

whyyyyy😭

[shut sparrow]

lore drop

[toxic moth]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…… still online huh?

[vague fern]

who are you?

[glad kraken]

||my last save file is at the black egg there so if iw to go godhome must refight radiance ||

?

[golden flower]

no

[glad kraken]

so i just walk to the exit

right

[toxic moth]

Its fine I understand that u forget who people are bc u meet a lot of people(bc you are online 25/7)

[vague fern]

oh ur that weirdo

irrelevant ass kid i remember now 😭

[polar flicker]

Hmm what happened ?

[deep edge]

i made it finally

||the white palace||

[vague fern]

some 11 year old that doesnt speak english very well

came into hkdisc yesterday and just tried to ragebait people

its so corny

[west slate]

i'm traumatized by ||white palace||

[proud helm]

OH MY GOD

[west slate]

did u beat ||p5||? idrk...

[polar flicker]

Congrats

[cunning steppe]

Hello guys

[west slate]

oh in that case.. that's awesome i could never hope to do that congrats

[golden flower]

going to guess what runs means
how many ||dreamers||

he needs 3

probably not, but ||white defender|| is only available after 3
-# spoiling is probably a good idea

[proud helm]

Yes you can! I said the same thing

[west slate]

i can't even do ||white palace|| how tf will i do ||p5||??

[cunning steppe]

Thank you

[wet spire]

you keep playing and practise

[golden flower]

very different skillsets

[toxic laurel]

One is a platforming challenge the other a bossrush, both are kinda easy so you should be able to get them if you git gud

[west slate]

i died like 10 times just now to the ||failed champion||

[wet spire]

'kinda easy' to the hardest achievement is crazy

[toxic laurel]

Blud you did it hitless...?

[west slate]

||i swear she doesn't say that||

[golden flower]

its hard

[wet spire]

yeah and i can still acknowledge its not easy

nobody cares if i find it hard, im talking about in general

[proud helm]

I gave up on ||white palace|| I played silksong and only tried again after they released the ps5 version of the game. Only made it through there a few weeks ago

[west slate]

well at least ik i'm not alone ty

[near forum]

Who?
I'm still hung up on that

[west slate]

?

[near forum]

Oh i see
Nvm
It took me a while to understand

Lol

[west slate]

sigh...

[toxic laurel]

Is ||embrace the void considered harder than steel heart?||

[wet spire]

yeah

(and by alot if you consider save scumming)

[near forum]

Can't expect me to understand gen z memes while I'm 27

[west slate]

i don't get it and i'm like 15

[valid falcon]

||surely no... p5 is a test of patience, not so much skill||

[near forum]

I see

[wet spire]

what 💀

[golden flower]

no??

[hazy adder]

No???

[near forum]

No??

[hazy adder]

Tf are you on

[wet spire]

you can make an argument that like the first half-ish is patience

but thats it

[west slate]

wtf??

[spring mesa]

The big 3 at the end:

[toxic laurel]

Blud is using ||kingsoul glowing womb weaverlings dreamshield and just sitting there doing nothing||

[spring mesa]

Erm akshyually you cant || use kingsoul in p5 since it requires voidheart 🤓 ||

[valid falcon]

||90% is a snoozefest, then come a couple bosses that sure, are hard, but can be practiced with 0 runback elsewhere... I wouldn't put it over Steel Heart just for the risk of having a stroke mid-boss||

[wet spire]

thats hindsight bias if ive ever seen it tbh

and im assuming (/ hoping) thats not considering save scumming

[toxic laurel]

I think ||markoth failed champ gpz and nkg are way harder than pv and absrad||

[wet spire]

because then || steel heart || is nothing

[valid falcon]

||not in goddamn base p5||

[wet spire]

|| markoth and gpz are hard, failed champ is a soul reset and nkg is inbetween two benches effectively ||

[hazy adder]

Bro ||failed champ|| is easy

[spring mesa]

|| nkg is some fire music break ||

[wet spire]

||failed champ cheese|| just makes him a bench

[valid falcon]

||steel heart is ideally a test of patience as well, as you have to simply get 100% and quit out anytime you're at risk
but just the fact your keyboard can momentarily malfunction or you can miss the 1 mask, or anything, which can end a many hour run, I'd consider it harder||

[toxic laurel]

||Isnt gpz right beforw nkg...?||

[golden flower]

no

[wet spire]

do i want to assume this is genuine or not

[hazy adder]

No..

[wet spire]

if you just leave the game at || 1 mask|| then its legit just normal || 100% but with 1 less mask|| 💀

[valid falcon]

||"markoth is hard" we're talking base p5 markoth? the same boss? that can be tanked?||

[wet spire]

|| gpz -> fc -> nkg ||

[hazy adder]

||GPZ|| is right after ||markoth||

[wet spire]

do you have any good takes or is this it

and sure you tank it.. then you go to the next on 1hp

i shouldve read the name actually this makes alot of sense

[west slate]

do i have to go here to get ||kingsoul||?

[hazy adder]

Yes

[random spear]

keep going, you'll get there eventually

[golden flower]

yeah

[oak jewel]

finally

[valid falcon]

||but you can fail to notice you have 1 mask, or your device can have a stroke, or you yourself can have stroke
works in principle, but should anything go wrong under stress, it's a couple hours lost at times||

[toxic laurel]

||I personally think ascended markoth doing 1 mask of dmg is harder to beat consistenly than absrad||

[west slate]

whyyyy???😭

[wet spire]

so ur reasoning is that ur pc might break

[simple galleon]

This might blow your mind: not everyone is at the same skill level.

[wet spire]

good lord why am i still clicking on your spoilers

[valid falcon]

||on full hp
I'm not a dumb facetanker I'm a facetanker who heals||

[wet spire]

bad and bad

[polar flicker]

People ruining the goat channel smh

[valid falcon]

||yeah I know but having like 3 bosses lets you just sit down and learn their moves consistently (in hog)||

[polar flicker]

Can y'all go to hk general

[wet spire]

thats too far

💀

[hazy adder]

😭

[valid falcon]

||they don't seem to like me there
just because my p5 clear was easier than theirs||

[wet spire]

i first tried it gng who are you

all it takes it one guy to bait stg

[near forum]

Chill guys

[toxic laurel]

How is ||p5 supposed to be easier?||

[near forum]

Let it be

[vague fern]

can you stop ragebaiting

thanks

[acoustic sigil]

^

[toxic laurel]

That isnt ragebait...?

[acoustic sigil]

Keep all the trolls contained in 1 channel I can mute

[vague fern]

thats probably worse..

benefit of the doubt, its bait

[valid falcon]

how exactly to stop, if I don't know what makes me "ragebait"? By just shutting up?

[hazy adder]

How’re Yall angry at this and not the guy who said he first tried it

[vague fern]

if you arent helping anyone then yes

if you want to share horrible takes then do so in a discussion channel

[acoustic sigil]

I heard hk-disc is very friendly

[vague fern]

you can share bad takes with grey

[valid falcon]

I don't have horrible takes to spare
I keep them to myself, and only let go of the quality ones

[vague fern]

ragebait -> another channel

[valid falcon]

Just call a mod so they ban me
because my opinions and ideas are unpopular

[toxic laurel]

No one first trys ||p5 if they dont get ultra lucky or practiced/beat normal radiance a lot or watch a video about it||

[acoustic sigil]

Just move on

[vague fern]

this just isnt true lol

saying to call a mod instead of just being a decent person is shocking

[acoustic sigil]

Lune, you know you are right but also shut up

We are moving on

[vague fern]

guh

[dry hamlet]

YO LETS GO FINALLY HOLYYYY ||RADIANT MARKOTH||

HOLY SHIT

[vague fern]

ggs

[wet spire]

i did lol

really not that crazy

[dry hamlet]

LETS GO

[golden flower]

[wet spire]

ggs

[dry hamlet]

teqnok

i made a really good strategy for it lol

also ty for ||the charm build||

[toxic laurel]

||absrad first try is prob harder than everything else in p5 if you didnt play a lot of normal rad||

[west slate]

i made ittt!!!!

[vague fern]

#hk-help message

[wet spire]

yh you need some good rng or a good || pv||

[polar flicker]

Damn Thommie doing overtime

[acoustic sigil]

@valid falcon on a scale from 1 to very clear, how clear was it to shut up

[west slate]

only here tho😩

[valid falcon]

not so much clear
but now it is, thanks a lot!

[near forum]

You got this

[west slate]

do i tho??

[near forum]

Believe

[hoary depot]

Damn this guy is honest

[proud helm]

You do

[dry hamlet]

||bassicly teqnok if ur still here the strategy worked like this i kept using nail arts kinda aggresive in the first phase (with counting soul till phase2) and as soon as phase 2 hit i kept dodging and only using spells when he did his shield attack||

[golden flower]

good