hk-help

[toxic moth]

Oh haven’t been there my freind told me to wait

[crude cliff]

Saves the tedious work

[lucid igloo]

alr

unc

uncle 🥀

[crude cliff]

Unnecessary

[frail parrot]

How old does one have to be, to be called an unc?

[lucid igloo]

Yeah dont do that either

[errant vault]

||Fighting the hollow knight, how do I predict where the spike tendrils will end up?||

[crude cliff]

It depends on family relations, not age

[frail parrot]

Oh okay

[supple mountain]

out of date with slang, generally around 20

[crude cliff]

Looking quickly, there is most often an opening close to him

[simple galleon]

You see glowing spots on the ground

[toxic moth]

||Is the dream sheild, mantis claw or the mega shaman stone( the one that costs 4 charm slots) better?||

[frail parrot]

Easy, just || wait until he descends and jump and adjust mid-air||

[supple mountain]

huh?

[frail parrot]

🙂

[simple galleon]

||Mantis claw is not a charm, and soul eater is not a shamen stone upgrade||

[frail parrot]

If that's your play style, then yes

[toxic moth]

Oh I mean the range one sorry I am stupid and I meant the one that drains more sole

Soul

[supple mountain]

depends on you playstyle

[toxic moth]

Oh

[crude cliff]

Just try what you like more

[toxic moth]

Which one is u guys preference though?

[supple mountain]

if you do not use ||spells||, ||mop||
if you like them ||soul eater||
or if you need to heal a lot

personally i prefer the latter

[toxic moth]

||I also have the one that makes my spells more powerfull||

[simple galleon]

So ||Dreamshield, mark of pride, or quick focus?|| Kinda is just personal prefrence.

[supple mountain]

that's better

[crude cliff]

Just try them

[supple mountain]

one of if not the best charm in the game

[crude cliff]

Its also fun to be different in charm regard

The nececity to use perfect builds is for way later

And even then there is some liberty

[toxic moth]

Alr thanks

[frail parrot]

I just go with || steady body, quick slash, unbreakable str, soul catcher(for descending dark if I can't dodge fast enough) but I haven't fought THK in a long time so I don't really remember||

[crude cliff]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[supple mountain]

was boutta say

they are not very far at all

[toxic moth]

||I only have steady body and breakable strength of those||

[frail parrot]

Oh damn, I'm sorry, I'll use different words next time

[crude cliff]

Try to not mention things they dont know

[toxic moth]

Thanks for helping me guys gtg to sleep bye

[crude cliff]

Bye

Gn

[frail parrot]

IF that's your play style, then use it. Think about what you want to do and try to find charms that fit your needs

[frail parrot]

Bye

[errant vault]

||he just began stabbing himself is he almost dead||

[frail parrot]

Byee

[terse dawn]

can someone please give me tips for ||trial of the fool||

ive been trying for the past hour

[supple mountain]

send inventory

and charms if you want

[simple galleon]

60%

[supple mountain]

ok

umm

[frail parrot]

Git gud? But seriously ||most of the fight is just good positioning, and not getting cornered||

[lucid igloo]

Is that the 3rd?

[supple mountain]

?tag gitgud

[languid radish]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[terse dawn]

yes ik but the fucking part where u cant heal always gets me

[errant vault]

Ts is long

[supple mountain]

yes

[terse dawn]

where ur always on the wall

[lucid igloo]

Bro 😭 read the other half of the msg

[valid falcon]

||hiveblood and nmg are both excellent||

[simple galleon]

What nail do you have?

[lucid igloo]

||have full hp before that part so you always start full, also i think with quickfocus you can heal if youre quick after the platform shows up||

[errant vault]

Channeled

[valid falcon]

you can't

[lucid igloo]

I swear ive done it before unless it was a diff area

[crude cliff]

The first seems a bit expensive, I get the reason but I have never seen anyone use it there

[valid falcon]

||it's excellent on the no-floor and god tamer, not to great on other stages||

[terse dawn]

||hiveblood|| takes really long to heal tho?

[lucid igloo]

If theyre good at dodging its alright

[crude cliff]

But the price to use is too high

[simple galleon]

That's fine. You could upgrade it if you want to go faster, but it's definitely doable. Just make sure you are using ||spells|| too.

[crude cliff]

10 seconds

[valid falcon]

||you can stall a lot on no-floor, and on god tamer by sitting on the left wall||

[frail parrot]

Yeah, it is just good positioning

[valid falcon]

||idk I only struggled with no floor so it was a no brainer for me||

[errant vault]

Im spamming ||Ddark|| 😔✌️

[crude cliff]

Ah

[terse dawn]

so could i get a build?

[crude cliff]

For?

[lucid igloo]

||do tou have the spell where you hold up+B its useful probs||

[terse dawn]

yes

[lucid igloo]

Use that

[crude cliff]

I used ||shaman, strength, quickslash, grubsong, dreamwielder||

And I did it again with exactly the same build and would do again

[errant vault]

Ppl have so much ||charm notches while I have 6 how do I get more, I got 2 from Salubra but shes kinda time consuming if u cant find more charms||

[terse dawn]

play the game

[simple galleon]

Do you remember where you got the other one from?

[errant vault]

||the two mushrooms in fungal wastes||

[austere grotto]

Charm setup recommendations for ||Watcher Knights||? My idea is to do as much damage as possible as quickly as possible

(I’m not taking off my son)

[simple galleon]

And can you send a screenshot of your inventory?

[modest sparrow]

what was your main problem

[fleet mural]

First time player?

[modest sparrow]

with the knights

[austere grotto]

Yes

[crude cliff]

I would take out ||defender crest, thorns and grimmchild as their damage is very little and I would invest in soul with soul catcher and that leaves 2 notches, longnail or grubsong can be good||

[fleet mural]

Don't use ||the smelly charm or grimmchild, i would reccomend soul catcher and def fragile strength if u can afford to repair it often||

[austere grotto]

I get down to the last ones at low hp, I do enough damage to kill the first one before any other guys can get up

[fleet mural]

also, ||get at least 2 nail upgrades||

[austere grotto]

No

[simple galleon]

Ok, I'll be kinda vague here. ||2 more from salubra, one in fog canyon, one in colo, and one in dirtmouth (hint:scarlet fire)||

[austere grotto]

Did that

[austere grotto]

Can’t repair often

[errant vault]

Alr

[fleet mural]

|| You'll be fine prob then, at least 6 masks i assume? ||

[austere grotto]

7

And my son stays with me

[fleet mural]

||baldur's can be good it's my fav charm||

||you can abuse it a shit ton||

[frail parrot]

You should keep your son safe and away from boss fights👍

[fleet mural]

||Your damage output is already good you'll prob get this first or second try, there's a way to make this fight a lot easier if you want||

||Son stays||

[frail parrot]

Lmao

[austere grotto]

I just gotta hold myself back so I don’t die again

[fleet mural]

||want a tip||

[austere grotto]

Sure, why not

[fallow mirage]

augghhh im made it to ||the climb in absrad|| any tips to get more consistent at ||phase 2?||

[frail parrot]

||I swear most boss fights are about good positioning. So don't get cornered with two watcher knights in front of you||

[golden flower]

what's phase 2

[fleet mural]

||Try not to stay near the corners unless you're healing and if one is jumping towards you and one is rolling, usually you can jump over both of them/cling to the wall||

[frail parrot]

||incorporate descending dark instead of dashes, use jumps to dodge more than dashes, basically save your dashes for the beam wall||

[austere grotto]

K, ty

Be back when I win

[fleet mural]

||tf you mean phase 2 btw||

[frail parrot]

You got this💅✨

[fleet mural]

(dlc spoilers) ||i'll check back when i finish p4 with soul binding 🤑 ||

[modest sparrow]

||i think you can go above the arena of the fight and do smth to the chandeliers to weaken the watcher knights im not sure tho||

[frail parrot]

@fleet mural the || one with the platforms halfway up||

[fallow mirage]

when she goes down after the first wave of the fight and transitions into ||the platforms and her moving around the map, before the climb||

[austere grotto]

Already done

[frail parrot]

@modest sparrow yes

[modest sparrow]

oh ok

[pallid narwhal]

I am trying too to finish ||p4 with bindings||

[simple galleon]

Do you know that they know what that is?

[modest sparrow]

does that make a big difference?

[frail parrot]

Yeah

@modest sparrow ||it's one less knight to worry about||

[fleet mural]

||Stay at one place and don't bother to move from the middle and bottom platform unless absrad is there, on the right or left from that platform, etc. If you have enough soul, (2 casts) just drop into the void when the orb attack comes if you struggle with that||

[modest sparrow]

ah ok

[austere grotto]

5 instead of 6

It’s small, but counts

[frail parrot]

I'm pretty sure everyone else felt this way but ||phase 2 of abs rad is just optimizing descending dark, and jumps and saving dash||

[pallid narwhal]

In phase 2 of ||abs rad I like to stay and wait for him to come and use desolate dash a lot||

[frail parrot]

@pallid narwhal || her*||

But yes, that's the main strat

@pallid narwhal || personally, I go on the offense when she's at a comfortable place for me||

I think I have some footage of me, doing a ||fury of the fallen run with abs rad ||

I'll look at what I did and brb

|| so basically, I spammed attacks when she was close, and whenever she did her beam attack or sword burst when I was close, I did descending dark||

[terse dawn]

yea fuck this. 2h on ||trial of the fool||. ima kms

[frail parrot]

No, don't give up. You got this. You need a little refresh. Go drink some water and relax

[fleet mural]

||I did it!!||

[fleet mural]

did you do it?

[terse dawn]

its currently 23:30 for me. ima try tommorow again

[fleet mural]

||yk godmaster dlc?||

[frail parrot]

@fleet mural ||I cannot even imagine doing all bindings on p1 let alone p4||

[austere grotto]

Not yet, second try with your tips

[fleet mural]

||Okay wait||

[frail parrot]

Ah okay, good night

[austere grotto]

K

[terse dawn]

good night

[fleet mural]

||please ddon't use the jump shit i did it with watcher js now and i got wrecked||

[frail parrot]

Ye

[fleet mural]

||just dash inbetween like usual im sorry 😭||

[austere grotto]

Aight

[fleet mural]

||i hadnt played wacther in a while||

[frail parrot]

||wait wot, what happened with watchers?||

[terse dawn]

yes

[fleet mural]

||beat p3 first||

||trial of the fool is that hard||

[frail parrot]

Wait really??

[errant vault]

||Without phase 4, phase 3 of the hollow knight is the easiest right||

[simple galleon]

You did not need that screenshot...

[pallid narwhal]

I like in the first phase so so aggressive and defensive and second phase and you sure ||abs rad|| is female ?

[golden flower]

she is

[fleet mural]

||sorry||

[pallid narwhal]

Thats amazing did you finish all ||bindings||?

[fleet mural]

||I've done p1 all bindings, but i haven't even done p2 all bindings. I'm just doing one by one e||

[frail parrot]

@pallid narwhal ||like I said, I was running a fury of the fallen strat and I just went all offense, I think I usually wait a bit more so I can get closer on more predictable attacks||

[pallid narwhal]

I still only have ||binding of masks and charms|| only

[fleet mural]

||I'm about to try with charm binding||

||Once i've done that, I can start on all bindings p2||

||Then... p3, p4...||

[errant vault]

?

[fleet mural]

Then I must face my greatest fear

[frail parrot]

@fleet mural ||oof, I just did one binding at a time. I stopped at p5, charm binding, that is too difficult, and I keep dying to markoth||

[austere grotto]

Second try last knight one health, might not be back for a bit since I have fencing soon

[fleet mural]

||if you want tips, unspoiler the next message (but im not at p5 bindings yet so idk how trustable it is)||

[pallid narwhal]

||p5||?

[modest sparrow]

in which ||pantheon do i have to fight pure vessel?||

[golden flower]

4

[modest sparrow]

k thx

[frail parrot]

@fleet mural okie

[fleet mural]

||you don't need to actually dodge and attack on p5 markoth You just need to shriek spam and vaguely dodge his attacks||

||The shriek will make you take damage but otherwise just dodge||

||if you want, wait until he does the shield spin shi||

[modest sparrow]

which bosses are in || p1||

[frail parrot]

@fleet mural ||my usual strat is dash slash, it takes a long time though, but I'll try your strat||

[cedar gazelle]

4

[frail parrot]

||I usually do dash slash because it has massive range ||

[fleet mural]

||you can even do it without shaman but shaman is optional to make it easier||

[frail parrot]

@fleet mural ||eh I'm talking about charm binding p5||

[fleet mural]

||p5 markoth has as much hp as normal markoth so he has little hp||

[fleet mural]

||sure||

[golden flower]

||vengefly king, gruz mother, false knight, massive moss charger, hornet protector, gorb, dung defender, soul warrior, mawlek, and (new boss name)|| ||oro||

[frail parrot]

@fleet mural || I've completed p5 multiple times, with soul, shell and nail binding separately, I just suck at the charm binding||

[pallid narwhal]

||p5||?

[austere grotto]

||I love Gorb||

[frail parrot]

||the great mind!!!||

[austere grotto]

Imma go get him after I get ||Lurein||

[frail parrot]

Ye

Anyways, good night folks, imma shower and go to sleep

[austere grotto]

G’night

[frail parrot]

Gg

[errant vault]

I beat ||the hollow knight|| yay

[fleet ether]

where do i find more|| dream essence?|| i finished beating all|| dream warriors ||(to my knowledge) and can't find anymore of those ||whispering roots||

[errant vault]

Is 17h 44m a good time for a first playthrough

[worldly plume]

Very good

What %?

[errant vault]

Lemme check

[worldly plume]

K

[fleet ether]

someone replied to me but i think their message got deleted..

[errant vault]

56%

[honest lark]

DAMN IT

[fleet ether]

lmao 😭

[wheat bramble]

u can beat up ||dream version of bosses by dreamnailing their body||

there’s ||lost kin, failed champion, soul tyrant, white defender||

[worldly plume]

Someones maybe be a bit moved of place,but still nearby

[honest lark]

Uh ||charms|| for ||broken vessel||

[wheat bramble]

yes true!!

[fleet ether]

i didn't know those provided ||essence||? that's really useful if they do, thank you

[wheat bramble]

damn ur already at ||ancient basin|| w this amount of charms !!

[wheat bramble]

they give TONS! like 300 per boss I think

[worldly plume]

Depending the boss

Someones gives 200,others 300

[honest lark]

Im broke and struggle with expo

[worldly plume]

I think there is no one of them that gives 100

[honest lark]

Can I just have charms to use

[worldly plume]

Except for ||oniric bosses||

And equip more charms

Or explore the map and get more ||mask shards|| if you have low amount

Idk if that is useful for you

[honest lark]

Still I want charm suggestions.

Before I go in with ||shaman and lifeblood||

[golden flower]

with that inventory, thats probably the best loadout

[worldly plume]

Yeh

I was about to say that

[small narwhal]

ps besties

[small narwhal]

ouch i always need to have ||compass|| unless im doing a boss fight and am certain of where it is, otherwise im lost

[honest lark]

I keep forgetting ||cyclone slash|| exists

[worldly plume]

There is some bosses like ||souls master|| that are a bit far

[small narwhal]

woah no spoiler ?

[worldly plume]

I don't use that,every time forgot that exists

[worldly plume]

Srry

I fix it

Ready

[small narwhal]

no i’m not like mad im shocked they didn’t catch u

[worldly plume]

But I better fix it before getting warned or smt like that

[small narwhal]

what rlly ||i find the way to soul master quite easy||

[worldly plume]

Yeh I know,but for some people no

At first I lost a bit,but the way is easy to memorize

[small narwhal]

damn i thought i was the player with the worst sense of direction but ig not

[worldly plume]

I am

[small narwhal]

is ok i get lost with the most basic things

[worldly plume]

BRUHHH

FOR THE MOST BASIC CHARM,REALLY?

Me too,i can't even last 5 minutes without using ||compass|| or seeing the map

[small narwhal]

OMG u get it

if u watch gameplay of me trust ever 5 seconds i will check map

[worldly plume]

X2

How many hours do u have on hk?

[small narwhal]

hm in th game it says my play through is like 30hrs

but in playstation when i click on hours played it says 22

so idk

[tough vale]

look at that

[worldly plume]

Gl

[small narwhal]

scary

[worldly plume]

I was about to ask smt but it can be the most terrifying spoiler I could give you

So...not

[small narwhal]

is this like

the ultimate boss?

[worldly plume]

Normal boss

[small narwhal]

i don’t rlly mind spoilers bc idk what it is and don’t understand it until i actually get to it in th game

[worldly plume]

Oh no,I was saying for adam

And for you too

It's the most terrifying spoiler

[small narwhal]

what

oh

don’t tell me

wait what is it

i wanna know

wait does it spoil the ending

[worldly plume]

I wanted to die when i knew it

[worldly plume]

No,but listen to me

You DON'T WANT to know it

[small narwhal]

WHY

[worldly plume]

I'm inspired so gonna continue and try to pass the game again

[small narwhal]

you completed it before?

[worldly plume]

Yeh

[small narwhal]

omg

freaking spoiler

do y have any tips for ||deepnest|| specifically the part full of spiders

[tall kraken]

No

Im sry

Wait there is one thing

You have the ||lumifly lantern||

right

Thats really important

[small narwhal]

mm yeah whatever that is i bought a ||glowing light from sly||

[tall kraken]

👍

Also be prepared

[small narwhal]

prepared

i have been there

it freaking sucks

[tall kraken]

Still

[small narwhal]

it’s my worst nightmare

[tall kraken]

Same

Hwte it

[small narwhal]

[wheat bramble]

any tips for ||white palace|| IN GENERAL im so sick and tired

I’m so bad at platforming

[golden flower]

not really

[tall kraken]

Whats ur charmbuild

[wheat bramble]

||hiveblood and grubsong||

[tall kraken]

Oop

I would recommend ||mark of pride||

[tough vale]

best charm from the the ||radiance||

[golden flower]

||quick focus, quick slash, shaman stone, sbody or grubsong|| probably

[tall kraken]

Get strength

[tough vale]

anyone help

[small narwhal]

m guessing they take up all ur ||notches|| bc i was like why r u only using ||2 charms||

[tough vale]

what is the missing charm

[small narwhal]

you’re missing 2

or am i crazy

[tough vale]

the one on the second line is with me but not now

[small narwhal]

where is it then??

[golden flower]

name: ||shape of unn||
area: ||greenpath||

[tough vale]

okkkkk.

[small narwhal]

no way bro got all that but not ||shape of unn||

i wanna see message

anyways

advice from me

if ur going in ||greenpath|| and an earthquake starts in the water|| don’t run away

[tough vale]

where exactly

[golden flower]

upper left
||lake of unn||

[small narwhal]

|| you’ll miss seeing unn and never see him again i never get to see unn in my pkaythrough bc i ran away :(||

||u need to be able to move in water||

||isma’s thing||

[wheat bramble]

oh no i just didn’t mention the charms i have on that have no use there like ||strength|| etc

[tall kraken]

Ur tryna beat ||white palace|| right?

[worldly plume]

Still need it?

[errant vault]

||Now that I have 7 notches would shaman stone and soul eater be better than shaman stone and MoP||

[tall kraken]

||soul eater|| isnt that great

[errant vault]

O

[tall kraken]

The ||notch|| is too high

[wheat bramble]

it’s done thank god 🙏

[tall kraken]

What is the ||charms|| for

[tall kraken]

Nice

[errant vault]

This is what I have

What should I get

[wheat bramble]

what to do with ||kingsoul|| now

[tall kraken]

Go to ||abyss||

If you have that

[errant vault]

If u have the other half u can turn it into something else

And do cool stuff

[wheat bramble]

ok ok perfect

[tall kraken]

What r u tryna do

Oh

[errant vault]

Nothing specific I just wanna do the dlc content

[tall kraken]

Then take out ||shaman||

[errant vault]

||grim troupe||

[errant vault]

Its not good?

[tall kraken]

For ||grimm||

[errant vault]

Why

[shut sparrow]

||it's very good for any boss||

||it's not like they have any good charms other than spell/soul focused ones||

[simple galleon]

I'd run ||quick focus, longnail, and soul catcher|| there. Buuut I can imagine people's faces at that.

[shut sparrow]

no ||quick focus and catcher are both really good||

just ||longnail|| isn't

[simple galleon]

I never got the hate for ||longnail||, especially since ||mop|| is used all the time.

[round nova]

its a good in general but bad for the price

there are better ||2 notches||

[wheat bramble]

tips for ||white defender?||

[solemn bay]

||just keep slashing when he is throwing balls, and dodge at all othre times||

||cuz he can't hit you if ur under him||

[plain forge]

If I give ||the delicate flower to the grave in gardens does it lock me out of getting another one to give to oro and the godseeker?||

[simple galleon]

Nope!

[plain forge]

Can I take one from ||the grave or do I have to go back to the mourner||

Ik it blooms more

[golden flower]

its from the ||grave||

[plain forge]

That makes it easier ty

[simple galleon]

||The mourner leaves after you deliver it anyway||

[tough vale]

#hk-help message

[simple galleon]

What about it?

[tough vale]

nothing

[gusty cove]

ikr

[simple galleon]

Spoiler that please

[gusty cove]

oh yeah

spoilers

sorry im used to discussion channel

[plain forge]

Ohhhh mb

[simple galleon]

ty

[plain forge]

Yeah but I actually hate them

[gusty cove]

thats so fair

[plain forge]

[simple galleon]

They are really easy to jump over. I have a lot more trouble with the ||infected jumpers|| or whatever they're called.

[plain forge]

I accidently hit them with ||grubberfly||

It's just like covid 2.0

Can't get near anyone

[spark crown]

Something like that

[plain forge]

Fully like that

[shut sparrow]

||mop isn't good either. Longnail is better||

[strong iron]

Why did my. Hollow Knight just randomly update???

[simple galleon]

Playstation?

[strong iron]

Xbox

[simple galleon]

There was an unannounced (afaik) ps patch to fix a few bugs recently, maybe it was a problem on xbox aswell?

Looking at it online, it did go to xbox aswell.

[simple galleon]

Pretty sure that's an unpopular opinion.

[strong iron]

K thanks 👍

[bold shoal]

neither of them are good, but if you're wasting the slots ||pride is definitely the better bang for your buck||

[shut sparrow]

||of course, it gives more range. But for mark of pride you have to get rid of some very good charm to get 3 free notches. If you use longnail you can still use 3 other 3-notch charms which makes it far more viable||

[shut sparrow]

unpopular and correct

[simple galleon]

My build that works amazing for me is ||qs,mop,qf,sc||. I never switch out anything unless I have to (||grimmchild or radiant boss||).

[round canopy]

is this good for ||white defende||r guys

[shut sparrow]

||I'm sure this build works great. But you can't use shaman stone or strength if you use mark of pride here||

[simple galleon]

Well for me it's also about what's the most fun. They just feel better.

[shut sparrow]

||yes. Though imo give steady body a shot ||

[shut sparrow]

||for sure, use what you find the most fun. But this discussion was about whether mark of pride is good, not if it's fun||

[simple galleon]

Well it IS good

[shut sparrow]

there are better options almost always

but yes, it is good

[bold shoal]

yeah but you're still wasting 2 slots, at that price your opportunity cost of a couple of pixels is ||sharp shadow or grubsong+steady body/dreamwielder/nailmaster
so you're only using either if you're chucking out something, and I'd personally rather just chuck shaman if I'm running a nail build and why would I use either if I'm not (and even then probably wouldn't use them)||

[shut sparrow]

||sharp shadow ||

[shut sparrow]

||so in your opinion shaman is worse than steady body + grubsong?||

in that case I just really disagree

[bold shoal]

no, ||shaman is worse if you want to be focused on nail rather than spell, since you're not gaining much on the extra spell damage if you're not using spells||

[shut sparrow]

||but not using spells is simply bad||

[kind whale]

|| Been struggling on the hornet sentinel (2nd encounter) any tips? ||

[simple galleon]

Hit the spikes as soon as they appear

[kind whale]

Ya I try to do that but I don't even reach that stage that much :(

[bold shoal]

yeah but that's the only justification I would think of for using ||pride or longnail|| outside of platforming, because you are just better off using anything else than those

[shut sparrow]

||people keep pretending like it's its own separate and good playstyle but it's simply limiting yourself. You could also say "playing healless is my playstyle so quick focus/shape of unn are bad" but that's not the case. Your "playstyle" is just bad||

[shut sparrow]

are you sure you are ready? You can reach that fight fairly early on. There is nothing wrong in just going elsewhere and exploring first

[simple galleon]

||Focus dodging. I think one reason why a lot of people find her hard is because they remember that you can punish her after certain attacks in the first fight. Learn when you can actually get hits in, and I'll tell you now, it's not a ton.||

[bold shoal]

that playstyle is hitless, and in ||radiant fights|| or similar challanges they'd be right
also healing is just kind of bad in this game

[round canopy]

yo i thought|| white defender|| would be hard but i beat him first try lol

[kind whale]

Thx for the advice both :)

[simple galleon]

Nice! He's tanky, but not that difficult.

[errant vault]

I collected the first ||grimchild flame|| do I give it to him or do I need all 3 at once

[simple galleon]

All 3

[shut sparrow]

||I'd still use other charms focusing more on healing then but sure, we can agree there. Mark of pride or longnail are only viable options if you decide not to use spells which is bad but sure||

[shut sparrow]

healless isn't hitless

with 5hp you can get hit 4 times if you don't heal

[shut sparrow]

||but there are radiant fights. There aren't fights which take away your ability to use spells||

[shut sparrow]

good job!

[bold shoal]

yeah but if you want to play ignoring heals you're trying to play hitless

[shut sparrow]

what

aren't you always trying to play hitless?

I don't see how not being able to heal will influence that

[simple galleon]

I can confirm that for some people, being able to heal makes them slightly less cautious.

[bold shoal]

if you're choosing to never heal then it's more important to learn other defense, which is not getting hit. If you allow yourself to heal, face tanking is also an option sometimes

[shut sparrow]

of course, but the goal is still the same

[shut sparrow]

oh I didn't read the last sentence

where did you get that from

[shut sparrow]

sure ig

I don't really recall where this was coming from

[bold shoal]

you were roasting nail builds as not being a real thing

which was itself a tangent of me roasting the nail extending charms

which came from you calling ||longnail better than pride||

[shut sparrow]

they are a real thing. They are just always worse

I was saying calling "nail" a playstyle doesn't make sense

[bold shoal]

not necessarily, if you focus on nail as your dps you don't have to worry about getting your ||spells|| to deal good damage, so you can use soul more for defensive ||ddark|| and healing

[shut sparrow]

||but that's literally using spells 😭||

[bold shoal]

meh I can respect the oonga boonga, there's something fun about going in to just hit the thing until one of you dies

[shut sparrow]

anyways we should move to #hk-general

[bold shoal]

sure

[lavish bramble]

||does anybody have any advice for pantheon 5||

[fallow solar]

||for p5 practice every boss in the game like a lot||

[lavish bramble]

ty

[fallow solar]

np

[errant vault]

How many times will I have to upgrade the ||grimchild||

[simple galleon]

For what?

||There's 3 sets of flames total, but only 2 for the charm notch||.

[shut sparrow]

for future reference try not to spoil the reward

[simple galleon]

They were asking about where to get ||notches|| earlier, and even mentioned going for the ||grimm notch|| specifically.

[shut sparrow]

||just do an attempt, remember which bosses you struggled with and especially which one you died on, then go to the hall of gods and practice them until you heat them consistently. Then you can try again etc.||

if there's some boss you just can't wrap your head around, you can ask here

[shut sparrow]

oh I see, mb then

[errant vault]

For ||nkg||

Ik theres 3 flames

But how many times do I collect all them

[simple galleon]

3 sets of 3

[errant vault]

Ohhh

Wait then how do u fight his regular form

[simple galleon]

2 of the 3 sets

[errant vault]

O

How do I go down here

[simple galleon]

You have to open it from beneath. If you want to find a way down there, explore around ||the right side of resting grounds||.

[errant vault]

Alr

[round canopy]

someone help this person

[supple mountain]

ask god not us 😭🥀

[wheat bramble]

LMAOOO

[errant vault]

The only right side I can think about is ||spirits glade||

[supple mountain]

down and right

[errant vault]

From

Wait in that dark place?

[supple mountain]

yes

[errant vault]

Then what

[supple mountain]

left

[errant vault]

That goes to the elevator tho

[supple mountain]

yes

yes it does

then go left more without going down

[errant vault]

Oh

[wheat bramble]

guys is the ||hollow knight|| hard and also what to do with ||kingsoul||

[supple mountain]

depends and go to the bottom of the world

||basin||

*with it equipped

[simple galleon]

Depends on where you are in the game. Since you have ||kingsoul||, I'll lean towards not.

[wheat bramble]

i have ||coiled|| nail only bc ||colo2|| scares me

[round canopy]

||soul tyrant|| is hard

[supple mountain]

ok?

[wheat bramble]

LMAO

[simple galleon]

And you can access something in the ||abyss|| with ||kingsoul||...

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[simple galleon]

They asked

What to do with it

[supple mountain]

they dont know what an ||abyss|| is bro

[wheat bramble]

okok doing that !!!!

[supple mountain]

they can't

[wheat bramble]

no ive been already

[supple mountain]

oh

oh my god im so dumb

[simple galleon]

||Kingsoul requires shade cloak...||

[supple mountain]

i am SO DUMB

ignore me

[wheat bramble]

here’s my full inventory (add ||kingsoul|| ofc

[errant vault]

I beat him a little bit earlier today, took a few tries, hes not that bad after a lil bit

||kingsoul|| can be turned into something else if u have both halves for a different ending

[cyan obsidian]

Hey guys I have a problem with my game, where now I can't play Super Smash, because I'm used to HK.

[simple galleon]

Anyway what did you do to ||grub|| #38?

[wheat bramble]

wait I haven’t beaten the game yet should I not turn ||kingsoul|| into smth else to get the first ending ??

[simple galleon]

If you care about the achivement, yes. Otherwise, it's up to you.

[supple mountain]

long story short
i was gr_b 38 but for a long time my gamertag has been BenTFG (at the time i didn't know where tfg came from and ben is my name)
Then i discovered that The Fifth Gr_b is named Ben, so i just changed

[errant vault]

The ||kingsoul|| thing locks u out of 2 other ||endings||

You can just go back and do stuff if u fight him normally

[simple galleon]

*1

[errant vault]

O

[wheat bramble]

ok ok ill do the first ending before going to the ||abyss|| then thanks !!

[shut sparrow]

then just play hk

[supple mountain]

uh yeah

or if you really need to you can rebind your controller in the settings to be more hollow knighty (if you were using a controller for hk)

[simple galleon]

||BenTheFithGrub||?

[supple mountain]

yes

check my bio

it really is my gamertag

[errant vault]

Should I use ||grimchild|| against ||grimm|| 🤔

[supple mountain]

you have to iirc

hes like "gimme my kin"

[errant vault]

Ohh

Compared to ||nkg|| how hard is the normal

[shut sparrow]

a lot easier

[simple galleon]

Much easier

[shut sparrow]

but still not a super simple boss

[supple mountain]

child's play

[simple galleon]

But that's cause ||nkg is super hard, not cause grimm is easy||.

[errant vault]

O

Wait

Does the ||charm notch|| come from the base or nightmare form

[supple mountain]

base

[simple galleon]

base

[errant vault]

Alr

[supple mountain]

nightmare is optional so they wouldn't lock you out of one

[errant vault]

Isnt the entire dlc optional

[supple mountain]

to an extent both yes and no

for game, yes

for completion, no

[errant vault]

Does base or nightmare give u the last ||grimchild|| upgrade

[supple mountain]

nightmare

[errant vault]

Ah

[shut sparrow]

please tag acronyms too

[errant vault]

Ok

[supple mountain]

depends

its a fun fight

[errant vault]

Ik I mean after

[supple mountain]

uh no

[errant vault]

||not accounting for unbreakable charms||

[supple mountain]

you have to choose

[errant vault]

You cant fight him and then get rid of him?

[supple mountain]

nope

[errant vault]

Damn

Even the base

[supple mountain]

oh no you can fight the base

that unlocks the option

[errant vault]

Oh

I wanna do the fight bc I've heard alot about it anyway

[supple mountain]

it takes seven hours to learn then ten minutes to beat again

very fun at the end

[errant vault]

Wait how do u get to ||hog|| to fight him

[supple mountain]

?

[errant vault]

||is all u need a simple key in royal waterways to do godhome||

[supple mountain]

yes

to enter

[sly ravine]

||radiance||

[errant vault]

Do I have to seperately unlock ||godhome|| and ||hog||

[supple mountain]

no

[sly ravine]

no

[supple mountain]

you have to fight each individual boss to unlock them in there tho (with exceptions for some reason)

[errant vault]

Ah

Does it count if u fight them in the ||pantheons||

[supple mountain]

no

you can't unless you've fought all but one boss in them (with said exceptions)

[errant vault]

Damn

[supple mountain]

it gives you a tracker

[chrome plover]

||tips for abs rad climb, sideways nails on platforms and balls on platforms they get me the most on radiant||

[supple mountain]

slow

slow it down

play more diligently

[chrome plover]

Wh

[shut sparrow]

||https://youtu.be/OuGLx5B08E4||

[chrome plover]

OH CMON 😭

[supple mountain]

yes along with n*nsenf i am a spoiler

[shut sparrow]

||for sword walls on plats you should turn up the volume and listen to the audio cues. Whenever a wall spawns you'll hear a sound affect. Also stay near the center of the arena, ideally top or bottom middle plat. If you don't move much, the walls should also not be causing too much problems. Though of course they can sometimes be evil.

For orbs just don't move around too much. A common mistake is jumping and dashing from plat to plat to try to avoid them. This isn't good. Try to stay calm and don't move too much. Make small movements and jumps staying on one or at most a couple of plats, leading the orbs into other platforms to destroy them||

[shut sparrow]

Well, you cheated

[supple mountain]

no

it's my legal name

||Grub|| "Ben" ||Grub|| V

[chrome plover]

Atleast I did the last phase hitless hopefully I dont jinx myself :]

[errant vault]

Got absolutely decimated first try on ||grimm||

[shut sparrow]

well, I hope the advice helps. Good luck!

[supple mountain]

||Grubfather|| named the first three of us then genuinely gave up

having quadragintasextuplets is NOT easy tbf

[errant vault]

Bro definitely looked up that number just for this or made it up

[supple mountain]

i memorized it for this exact situation

[errant vault]

That was the third option yea

Good question

[supple mountain]

its just my name

legally

[errant vault]

O

[supple mountain]

and yes quadragintasextuplets means 46 kids because quadraginta means 40 in latin and sex means 6 in latin

[lyric scaffold]

||I'll say all 50 names||

[supple mountain]

go

First names or middle names

[misty axle]

Oooh hes calling your bluff

[supple mountain]

middle names = skurry's names for us

watch me do it

[misty axle]

||grub #5|| which one are you on the map?

[supple mountain]

Blimpy

Thornando

Mimi

[neat karma]

Hi please move the conversation to a different chat if you will do it

This is hk help

[supple mountain]

ok

[errant vault]

I wqs thinking of a way bigger number bc the end reminded me of sextillion and the beginning quadrillion and after the numbers get rlly big they tend to combine past big numbers

[supple mountain]

oh i forgot lol

[errant vault]

Ok

[supple mountain]

quad means four

[neat karma]

Yeah but the part thats big about those is the illion bestie

[chrome plover]

Thanks for the advice
I should rest tbh I still hated ||ascended||
I wonder how good is ||grimm child||

[shut sparrow]

Hi please move

[lyric scaffold]

First

[supple mountain]

duh

[neat karma]

Who is this??????

[supple mountain]

i can do that too
in hk general

[lyric scaffold]

He's a higher role than you ig

[neat karma]

No i have just never seen them before

[shut sparrow]

uh,, ||nonsenf||?????????

[neat karma]

I dont believe that so ill just mute you, anyway bye chat

[errant vault]

A person whos name is a spoiler here 😔

[shut sparrow]

bluffing

ismoil couldn't

[polar flicker]

Hello

[shut sparrow]

hello grass

[neat karma]

Who is that
Actually who would name themselves bluffing in general

[shut sparrow]

you

[lyric scaffold]

You shouldn't do that to staff

[polar flicker]

Surely ismoil remembers me

[neat karma]

No my name is ||nonsenf||

[shut sparrow]

you are keeping me from a crash out because of ||1.0||

[lyric scaffold]

||Artemis nonsenf is warning you||

[shut sparrow]

ok so we're literally just lying now

[lyric scaffold]

Take this argument into hk gen or off topic

[misty axle]

Why does ||nonsenf|| need to be spoilered???

[polar flicker]

He's the secret final boss

[shut sparrow]

sorry, I can't talk here anymore😔

[polar flicker]

Bye

[errant vault]

When u buy a ||pin from dirtmouth || do u manually out it down

[supple mountain]

no

only ||markers|| which you can make mean anything you want

[errant vault]

O

Whats the point of buying so much

[supple mountain]

helps

map can get wildly confusing

[errant vault]

But cant u just reuse it

[supple mountain]

and you can mark things where you need an ability you dont have yet and yes you can reuse it

Different colors can indicate different things to people

like yellow is boss
red is come back later
blue is point of interest
That's what i did on my first playthrough

[errant vault]

Ive wanted to do this for so long

[errant vault]

Wait does she get more

[supple mountain]

no

[errant vault]

Ah

[frozen plaza]

||whats the optimal charms for rad, i have everything else||

[shut sparrow]

I recommend using ||shaman stone, strength, qslash, spell twister. You can also use steady bod and grubsong instead of twister if you like||

[errant vault]

||Where am I gonna get the last 4 charms for salubras last charm notch?||

[shut sparrow]

you can get any 4. Just explore and play the game

unexplored parts of the map are visible on the map

[frozen plaza]

is there any point in the fight where i can ||dream nail rad||?

[errant vault]

Wait how much does ||leg eater|| sell

[proud fox]

How to get || unbreakable strength ||

[misty axle]

Don't quote me on this, but I believe ||second phase||

[errant vault]

||grim troupe DLC, you need a TON. TON. Of geo and give ur fragile charms to Divine||

[shut sparrow]

3

[frozen plaza]

i believe you

[errant vault]

Bruuu

Do yk where to get one more

[proud fox]

Thx

[shut sparrow]

there's one in ||greenpath|| that's very easy to get

[errant vault]

Alr ty

[shut sparrow]

||platform phase||

[errant vault]

||Wait so grim child is useless in my fight with grim bc he consumes it?||

[misty axle]

Yes.

[errant vault]

Damn

Do I have to use it?

To fight him

[misty axle]

Yes ||grimchild|| must be equipped to fight him

[round mirage]

||any tips on pantheon one or am I just bad||

[simple galleon]

Yup

[errant vault]

Bru

[misty axle]

Are you gonna force him to fight his own father?

[errant vault]

Yes

[shut sparrow]

||practice each boss you struggle with in the hall of gods below until you can beat them consistently. Otherwise trying the pantheon doesn't make sense||

[misty axle]

Lol

[round mirage]

||literally just oro and mato||

[shut sparrow]

then practice them

[round mirage]

But I don't wanna

:P

[shut sparrow]

for ||oro and mato, make sure you aren't standing in between them or they will attack at the same time||

[shut sparrow]

then don't

[round mirage]

But what if I do wanna

[errant vault]

||I may have been on one mask and got oneshot the very next second, but thats the first time I got past his 75% attack so im fine with that||

[austere grotto]

@fleet mural, beat ||Watcher Knights||

[misty axle]

You beat it?

[austere grotto]

Ye

[fleet mural]

GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGG

GOAT

[misty axle]

Noice

[austere grotto]

The only reason it’s hard is because it’s so, f*cking, overwhelming

Am I right!?

[humble frost]

true

it feels more chaotic than || mantis lords ||, but its still a really fun fight imo

[austere grotto]

Gonna get ||Lurien||, then do ||Watcher Knights|| boss art

[misty axle]

Ooh send me it when you do

[austere grotto]

Will do, I’ll also send you my other art :DD

[frozen plaza]

||if i die in PoP will i lose my shade||

[near forum]

No

[glass wigeon]

im pretty sure ||long nail charm|| is honestly better than ||shaman stone|| in the ||mantis lord|| fight since theres little to no uses to do any soul needed ||spells|| other than healing

spamming with my nail is enough to do

[near forum]

That's incorrect

[errant vault]

||long nail|| barely does anything and u definitely can use ||spells|| infact healing is whats hard to do sometimes

[austere grotto]

And I am 99% sure my son got the final blow

[glass wigeon]

||long nail|| just gets me farther than ||shaman stone||

[errant vault]

I did that today too

[fleet mural]

YAY

[glass wigeon]

proud father

[fleet mural]

Teaching them how to fight

Amazing parenting

[austere grotto]

My son and I kill gods instead of catching ball

I’m so proud of him

[errant vault]

||grimchild?||

[fleet mural]

goated

[austere grotto]

Ye

[errant vault]

O

[austere grotto]

[fleet mural]

Oh

[fleet mural]

idk if this is phone specific but why's bro wide

[austere grotto]

Wide boy cute

[fleet mural]

Holy shit

Fuck spoiler bot

[austere grotto]

I agree

[fleet mural]

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN BRO YOU GET A ||SP*LL|| LIKE 5 MINS INTO THE GAME

I WASNT EVEN TALKING ABOUT HOLLOW KNI

[austere grotto]

Unless you have skill issue

[glass wigeon]

it took me 10 minutes

[shut sparrow]

read the rules

[fleet mural]

||I cast spell unto thee!
Thine's horizontal axis shalt be expanded!||

[glass wigeon]

i am weak

[austere grotto]

That’s actually hilarious, ty for giving me a smile

Also spoilers are sl*rs now

[fleet mural]

server rules?

[glass wigeon]

what if i say

[austere grotto]

For some f*cking reason

[shut sparrow]

channel rules

but the server rules also tell you to reach the channel rules

[glass wigeon]

3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825

[austere grotto]

Already read and I understand it, it’s just a little a little annoying

[fleet mural]

yeah same

I was exaggerating

It's just annoying

[shut sparrow]

There's good reason for them

[glass wigeon]

spoilerbot kinda ruins it if you dont feel like retyping

[fleet mural]

Bruh

LMAO

[austere grotto]

wtf!!!! I wasn’t even talking about HK

[shut sparrow]

you can copy the message

[glass wigeon]

but if you forget a spoiler for just ONE WORD

[fleet mural]

I like spelling alphabet

[glass wigeon]

then u gotta refill all those spoilers again

[fleet mural]

rip

[austere grotto]

Now do the rest of ||P13||

[fleet mural]

I like to spell the word alphabet

:wowza:

[shut sparrow]

wdym "refill the spoilers"? You can just copy your message, put spoiler tags around the whole thing and send it

[austere grotto]

And names can have spoilers

[glass wigeon]

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[austere grotto]

Like my friend @fleet mural

[shut sparrow]

what were you talking about?

[glass wigeon]

i need nitro to fill more

[shut sparrow]

this is a help channel

[austere grotto]

The number

[misty axle]

Hmmm digits of pi

[fleet mural]

guys... he said annoying...

[shut sparrow]

wdym

[glass wigeon]

its honestly better if its blueberry

[austere grotto]

Ty, I think that’s what we’ve calculated for ||P13||

[austere grotto]

PIE, the number

[fleet mural]

like sure it's really easy and not hard to do but it's still annoying

[shut sparrow]

but you write the it with a 1?

[shut sparrow]

it's the only way

[austere grotto]

Sounds more math smart

[fleet mural]

yes it can still be annoying things can still be annoying and have greater good

be for real none of us actually give a shit in the long run with spoilerbot

[shut sparrow]

anyways, let's try to return to this channels purpose and not drift off-topic

[fleet mural]

yes

Guys

[austere grotto]

Fine

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THATS WHAT YOU START WITH I THINK

[misty axle]

Any tips on ||weathered mask||? I still need to do that on my main save

[fleet mural]

Godmaster spoilers ||I've beaten p4 with every binding (not at once) can I attempt P1 hitless having not done radiant HoG and beaten every P1 boss on radiant? (Just for fun)||

[shut sparrow]

||weathered mask is the hardest journal entry to get, not what you start with||

[misty axle]

I wish I started with ||weathered mask|| lol

[austere grotto]

Oh, I thought it was the beginning level of your mask, I just haven’t gotten it then and misremembered, whoops

[shut sparrow]

you can attempt anything. Your chances of success aren't that small. It's not too hard

[austere grotto]

How do you git tho?

[shut sparrow]

are you sure you want to get spoiled about that?

[austere grotto]

No then

I’ll figure it out

[misty axle]

...you dont wanna know trust me

[shut sparrow]

||weathered mask is like 20 pantheon runs.. anything more specific? ||

[austere grotto]

Aight

[austere grotto]

Gud enough, I luv it

[shut sparrow]

like in general just practice the bosses you struggle with

[misty axle]

Well I've already done ||P1-P3|| so I only need to do ||P4 and P5||

[shut sparrow]

and what are you struggling with?

[misty axle]

Mostly the ||charm and soul bindings||

[shut sparrow]

||make sure you implement nailarts more into your playstyle. For soul binding you should use a spell every 3 hits. Even just a 4th one is a big waste of soul so really focus on that.
For charms, spells are of course also extremely powerful, probably even moreso. Any boss attacks or phases or whatever you need help with?
Because if it's just the while pantheon then you just need to practice until you know your weaknesses||

||also for soul binding a common mistake is having full soul and then thinking you're about to heal and thus not using a spell. Either you have the soul, find a good healing opportunity a few seconds after and use it, or you use a spell. Otherwise you're gonna have full soul waiting for that perfect moment for a heal and be wasting soul||

[misty axle]

||lost kin usually kills me and if not then markoth or watcher knights do||

[shut sparrow]

||make sure to practice those in the hall of gods.
For lost kin, make sure you always get rid of the enemies as soon as the yspawn and don't start healing when one is about to. You can heal during staggers and his close-range upslash attack. Note that lost kin staggers really easily if you combo him so try to make use of that.

For watcher knights you should abuse spells. Dive is really good both for dealing damage and to dodge attacks. Especially the latter is nice if both are rolling/jumping towards you and you don't know what to do. You can use fireball to hit both of them.
What's also really helpful to note is that they can only do a roll attack while they are on-screen. If they ever get off-screen, they have to slowly walk back on-screen until they can start a rolling attack. That means if both roll off-screen you have time to heal.

For markoth this is the strat I recommend: #hk-help message ||

[glass wigeon]

i forgot to charge my laptop and the battery warning did not allow me to pause so i lost against ||mantis lords|| again

[misty axle]

Ok thanks!

[shut sparrow]

good luck!

[glass wigeon]

i have now gained respect from the ||mantis||

[ornate vortex]

claw?

[glass wigeon]

WITHOUT ||SHAMAN STONE||

[ornate vortex]

also chat what do i do now

what

[shut sparrow]

you have a key you haven't used

||other than that just explore. Get essence and do the dreamers if you haven't yet||

[glad kraken]

||u should upgrade ur first spell||

[ornate vortex]

idk where tho

[vivid sage]

guys how to pogo

[vague fern]

hold down and then hit

[shut sparrow]

hold down and attack in the air

[ornate vortex]

point ur movement down when jumping and attacking

[vivid sage]

oh kk

[shut sparrow]

lume??

[vivid sage]

thanks guys

[ornate vortex]

np

[shut sparrow]

lune I'm literally gonna die doing this ||1.0|| please help me

[ornate vortex]

and i only knew how to get ||abyss shriek|| cuz of like a randomizer vid i was seeing

[vague fern]

thats why you dont do || 1.0||

[ornate vortex]

also how do i get access to vc

[glad kraken]

||i think u need to buy a key||

[shut sparrow]

but I need ||ascended||

[vague fern]

hop on || r5ab||

[shut sparrow]

||literally got like 5 hits away in final half an hour ago||

[vague fern]

or league

[shut sparrow]

sure buddy

[glad kraken]

||the final mask shard is so annoying to get as i cant take any damage ||

[vivid sage]

is pogoing hard on pc?

[shut sparrow]

then I ||ddarked|| and missed the plat..........

[shut sparrow]

no

it's easier than on controller

at least

whether it's difficult or not is subjective

[vivid sage]

hmm

[vague fern]

weathered

[vivid sage]

lol

[ornate vortex]

know what it's called so i can search it?

[glass wigeon]

i cant even do most stuff in hollow knight with my ps5 controller

all i can do is attack

[ornate vortex]

then edit the controls

[vague fern]

the act of pogoing itself is just a basic action

[glass wigeon]

(yes im using the buggy controller to pc)

[vague fern]

you just hold down and then hit while in the air

[shut sparrow]

you have it in your inventory

[glad kraken]

wait so u cant pogo

u just jump aim down n attack

[vivid sage]

can i walk across spikes by pogoing?

[ornate vortex]

where do i use it tho

[ornate vortex]

yes

[vivid sage]

how

[shut sparrow]

it tells you in its description

[vague fern]

well walk isnt really the word but yeah

you can pogo across spikes

[ornate vortex]

just attack it like it's an enemy when jump attacking

[vivid sage]

when should i jump and attack and shit

[ornate vortex]

just time it when ur close

and if u feel like u don't have enough range u can get ||longnail|| to help out with the timing

[vivid sage]

so hold down and jump and then attack when close the spikes or enemies right?

[glad kraken]

||u can try train at the first area where the bug will rush at u||

[ornate vortex]

yup

[vivid sage]

alr

thx

[glad kraken]

pogo is a must learn i feel

||white palace n crystal rush need it alot||

[ornate vortex]

yeah it lowkey be

[vivid sage]

yo guys

[ornate vortex]

it's pretty clutch sometimes too ngl

[glass wigeon]

pogoing is important for both mobility and attacking

[vivid sage]

can i change the down button to shift so its easier to hold?

that works pretty well right?

[ornate vortex]

and also for comboing

[ornate vortex]

i'm not sure i play controller

[vivid sage]

oo

[glad kraken]

u using ps5 controller

[ornate vortex]

maybe someone else knows

[vivid sage]

no im on pc

[glad kraken]

then i dunno

[glass wigeon]

i changed my controls to W A S D because im a left handed gamer

my right hand is only for deltarune and undertale

[vivid sage]

alr ill try it ig

[ornate vortex]

i thought wasd was basic tho

[vivid sage]

yea

[ornate vortex]

and also wasd doesn't work for undertale i think

[vivid sage]

i dont know one person who uses arrows?

[lucid igloo]

||in steel soul, besides the rancid egg guy what else changes? I didnt notice anything besides my heart rate being up||

[glass wigeon]

i use arrow controls for undertale

[ornate vortex]

yeah i think it's mandatory

[glass wigeon]

EVEN THO MY UP ARROW AND DOWN ARROW ARE SO TINY TO EVEN PRESS

[ornate vortex]

unless there's a way to map it to somewhere else which i don't know

[vague fern]

thats it

well also || tuk is dead ||

[lucid igloo]

Oh?

Okay ig

[ornate vortex]

chat where do i use ||elegant key|| im a fat chud and can't figure it out

[vague fern]

||soul sanctum ||

[ornate vortex]

what area is that in

[glad kraken]

||what does rancid egg does||

[ornate vortex]

look ugly

kinda it i think

[polar flicker]

Given to an npc

|| it will recover ur shade ||

Wherever u lost it

[vague fern]

||city of tears ||

[ornate vortex]

u can sell it i think

[shut sparrow]

||only in steel soul||

[ornate vortex]

is the ||tear skip|| hard to do?

[ornate vortex]

wack

like

the thing with the spikes

[primal ibex]

||mantis claw||

[glad kraken]

the only thing i find it hard in controller is

||nail art||

||like jump and use nail art||

cos u need to hold o button

[shut sparrow]

||yeah relatively difficult. What's much harder is the thing you need to do after if you don't have crystal heart tho||

[ornate vortex]

oh nah i have it tho

also what's the setup again

||dash spirit then pogo?|| or is it ||dash pogo then spirit||