hk-help

[cosmic elk]

how the devil do i get past this

[untold nexus]

bro we believe in you, you don't need to waste your||charm slot|| for emotional support ||charm||

[subtle mauve]

Later no worries

[cosmic elk]

k

[heady crystal]

guys help how do i beat ||ascended absolute radiance||

[untold nexus]

we can tell you, but it would better to figure that out yourself, because it would be a spoiler

[subtle mauve]

Don't

[royal forge]

||i swear it works the sisters of batlle were so hard till i equipped it then i became king von||

[cosmic elk]

even i know you dont

[royal forge]

equip ||sprintmaster||

[heady crystal]

really??

are you sure??

[desert stream]

no

[untold nexus]

he is joking

[heady crystal]

yes i could tell

[royal forge]

gng believe in me

[obtuse mulch]

thats a spoil ? 😭

mb

[desert stream]

everything, even ||dash||, is a spoiler. Welcome to hk

[royal forge]

shaw?

[sterile agate]

Guys is my build for ||absrad|| even remotely good? Its ||strength, shamans, longnail, sharp shadow and sprintmaster|| i dont wanna change it since ||its the one i can beat pure vessel with|| 😭

[golden flower]

||ascended and radiant play pretty similar, youll want to pay very close attention to her (and telegraphs, like glowing eyes for beamburst) and react accordingly (similar to nkg in a way). i like to do platforms by waiting for a beam/sword burst in the lower 3 platforms, diving for iframes, then spamming up with quickslash (should go by pretty quick). climb and final both have consistent strategies, seen here (ty nonsenf).||
-# im not the best at the fight, so i could be wrong on some things here

[heady crystal]

should i do some ||radiant|| bosses first

[obtuse mulch]

thanks

[subtle mauve]

Idk why ||sprint master||

[sterile agate]

I just use it idk

It feels nice

[desert stream]

||repkace sharp shadow and sprintmaster with health and longnail with mop or quick slash|| thats my build

[subtle mauve]

Do ||radiant obbloble||

[untold nexus]

even my ass playstyle is not enough to use ||sprintmaster||

[lyric shadow]

is this ur gameplay?

[sterile agate]

||sharp shadow|| though is like the one thing i cant take off i just cant play without it lmao

[untold nexus]

it's feels like more gamble

[golden flower]

no, its ||n||onsenf

[royal forge]

after playing ||skong ||i cant take it off

[sterile agate]

Oh wait ||her eyes glow???? I never noticed waow so THATS why i keep getting hit by it thank you!||

[heady crystal]

i died immediately

[untold nexus]

no shit sherlock🥀 🥀

[tepid viper]

oh who

[subtle mauve]

I'm ||pogoing on abra for the last phase||

[sterile agate]

Well yeah

Hardest boss of all time

[subtle mauve]

🤣🤣🤣

[golden flower]

||what i said has just been said before by other people (not sure how viable it is to watch her face), i kind of just try to react to the however many milliseconds telegraph of the actual beams||

[tepid viper]

just got to lock in

[golden flower]

that works, but its not 100% safe

[sterile agate]

I simply cant react in time so thats why i said

Maybe im too slow or maybe i should practice more but idk

[hoary anvil]

i use the pogos as the alternative to the ||wings|| often, but generally follow the video otherwise

[subtle mauve]

Just rush and pray ( my fav strat)

[golden flower]

do not do this

[sterile agate]

I dont like playing like this

Other people may do that i dont i cant

Doesnt work for me

[tepid viper]

i agree just run and pray

[subtle mauve]

No fun😒

[sterile agate]

Your strat is no fun yeah

[subtle mauve]

Yeahhhhh brotherr

[sterile agate]

To me)

[tepid viper]

yessss sir

edgar allan poe

[hoary anvil]

ah yes, my ||attuned|| strat, minus praying (mostly) because i know how to evade most situations and also know how to heal the ones i don't ... probably my fav to rematch for not itemless because of how turbo aggressive i can play

[royal forge]

i did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tepid viper]

NICE

[subtle mauve]

Ggg

[tepid viper]

bro i can

[untold nexus]

YAY W

[sterile agate]

Thats great man

[subtle mauve]

Now in ||radiant||😏😏😏

[desert stream]

all ||ascended||?

[tepid viper]

nah

[sterile agate]

Since i see it here i dont get how people struggle with ||uumuu it was the easiest radiant for me||

[tepid viper]

i dont know i just kinda suck

[royal forge]

uhh speacking of that

[subtle mauve]

||Cristal guardian|| is typing...

[golden flower]

i strongly dislike that the ||following attack does not have a sound cue for the first tick||
||uumuu|| isnt particularly difficult but that has taken more health than it should have, especially during class without sound

[sterile agate]

I did that after so

But i had some ||radiants|| already and ||uumuu|| was like free?

[tepid viper]

bye

[subtle mauve]

Bye bye 👋

[sterile agate]

Cya

[hoary anvil]

it's probably because they don't know a couple things
||- the quick flash has 1 pattern that can be mirrored, so if you know the pattern you know the safe spots and the responses to the flip version before it comes out

• orb follows the direction you hit from the head of the uoma||

[sterile agate]

That sounds just about right

Its probably that

[royal forge]

i just tried ||no ||||eyes||
||path of pain 2.0??||

[orchid flower]

You’ll be fine haha

Just takes patience

[golden flower]

its not that bad
i try to stay on the left side of the arena and wait for her to move to a spot that works
||great/dash slash|| work nicely

[twin locust]

For some reason I cant ||dash|| on steam does anyone know anything about this my controller is fine

[random spear]

check your controller keybinds

[slim stump]

Check keybinds

[twin locust]

Its right trigger but its like the game is just ignoring it because I can press it and its not working but it works in the app so ill check file integrity or something

[royal forge]

check the right side of your hk steam page

[supple mountain]

good job lily you did it

👏

[golden flower]

yeah,,

[desert stream]

teqnok ||weathered mask|| when?

[supple mountain]

we both have it

they have it and theyve had it for a while

[golden flower]

ive had it for a while
im a good run away from ||p5ab|| as well

[desert stream]

oh cool

gl

[vague fern]

so very close

[orchid flower]

Thanks!

[twin locust]

I verified game files and it works now

[slim stump]

Nice

[supple mountain]

can i have some tips 😭

[golden flower]

for

[placid jetty]

Not sure how to hide messages but how do I beat that floating guy with shields that shoots swords that no one likes?

[thick wing]

tips for the speedrun achievements? (all 3 of em)

[thick wing]

u do ||

[supple mountain]

||p5ab||

[thick wing]

at start and end

[placid jetty]

Ah right

[desert stream]

theyre not too hard, search up a route online

[thick wing]

that's easy for the regular one but the completion one???

[placid jetty]

||markoth||

Cool

[golden flower]

i cant help much, but i do have a handy document i stole ||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qC88RU8IXwrY58MpmXZs14UO1ECRUqBTo12RDVIKIYE/edit?tab=t.h3gfd7sqfyk#heading=h.rd6ncw6py1wq||

[thick wing]

i'll be taking that

[orchid flower]

Which bosses give u a trouble?

[vague fern]

Is that the greyfire document omg

[golden flower]

yes

[vague fern]

she'd be so happy

[supple mountain]

like all of them

well all except the ||p1|| ones

[placid jetty]

So how do I beat ||markoth|| on ||radiant||?

[supple mountain]

are there any tips for certain bosses you have?

[thick wing]

anyways where do i find a route for this???

[golden flower]

read up

[desert stream]

use ||spells||

[supple mountain]

🫡 ||grubberfly's elegt and spell spam on second phase||

[placid jetty]

I’ve tried but I’ve been at it for 2 days now with everything I could think of and I can’t get it

[supple mountain]

its almost like i went to the people that are good at the game in the help channel and asked them for help

[golden flower]

huh

[placid jetty]

Basically everything else is done on ||radiant|| except that guy

[untold nexus]

i will pray for you bro

[vague fern]

Decently detailed explanation if you want it

for starters, watching good players do it is a great way to learn.
|| okay so for build, what you really NEED is nailmasters glory, shaman, and atleast 1 soul charm. In overcharm this could look like mop shaman strength nmg eater (or add twister in alongside eater), in ascended maybe something like shaman nmg twister + 5 other notches, preference matters ||

||For the strategy, really focus on dodging with minimal movement, and only switching platforms if he gets too close. basically only use nail arts for phase 1. Great slash is good if hes close, and dash slash is overall very very good. on the shield spin attack, you want to get a dash slash off right away, and then another at the end (or alternatively, you can shade dash slash in as the shield expands, hit a little, then shade dash out). Try to play on the right platforms as left half is buggy but dont be scared to go there if you must, and just do not use soul phase 1. In phase 2, focus on dodging, when he does the shield spin attack, blast his ass with shade souls and repeat until he dies. ||

[desert stream]

someone should pin this

[thick wing]

where can i find a route for speedrun completion

i found one for the regular one not that

[desert stream]

idk i havent done it

[placid jetty]

Right thanks, will definitely try that right now, will need to rebind my attack key though

[thick wing]

closest thing a series that's way too long (like 13 20 minute videos)

[untold nexus]

same question actually

[vague fern]

There are other strats but theyre also more of a fluke strat, || nail arts + spells phase 2 || is consistent

[golden flower]

speed completion achievements are doable just with a checklist (even a mental one) imo

[placid jetty]

Thanks

[thick wing]

i don't have one

[glad jackal]

||Any tips for hornet sentinel? I cant seem to get close to winning and its so laggy||

[thick wing]

also does the dlc content count for speedrun completion ||(specifically grimm troupe)||

[untold nexus]

try to change your Screen resolution, use ||a shaman stone and rely more on spells so soul catcher is the answer, also you can use quick focus||

[orchid flower]

Honestly for speed completion a casual replay will get the achievement 9/10 times

You don’t need a route

[untold nexus]

nah

[thick wing]

u overestimate my memory

[golden flower]

the 100% can come from anywhere

[thick wing]

idk how tf i'm gonna do the speedrun achievements for silksong but we're not there yet

[orchid flower]

Well I’d say trying to follow a 10 hour guide is less fun than just playing it again

[hoary anvil]

lower your resolution/etc in settings if lag is an issue

[untold nexus]

by nah i mean you can do it but you don't need to

[thick wing]

true

[orchid flower]

Maybe you’ll surprise yourself

[hoary anvil]

oh hey 🐌

[vague fern]

|| for starters, she is a late game boss so if you dont have good gear then maybe come back later. Anyways try and keep good distance from her, let her come to you, then attack a few times and back off again. When she is at a safe distance or does the spike ball attack, line up a fireball (or ddive for spikes). On stagger, heal or break spike balls ||

[hoary anvil]

by /etc i was meaning some of the other graphics settings so not fully 🐌 but...

[untold nexus]

yeah...

[hoary anvil]

i was snail 😔

i had not scrolled down far enough 😔 😔 😔

[forest venture]

||im fighting traitor lord and I want to know how much damage sharp shadow does, so I can count the damage in my head.||

[hoary anvil]

||1x nail, 1.5x with a special other charm equipped|| iirc

[untold nexus]

don't want to be snail

[forest venture]

||so same as nail?||

[untold nexus]

yes

[forest venture]

Ty

[hoary anvil]

yes, whatever that happens to be

[forest venture]

Ty

[hoary anvil]

if you use mods to set your base nail damage to 9999, then it does 9999 (unless it's also tweaked in the mod)

[untold nexus]

does ps5 hollow knight have mods??

[golden flower]

how would that work

[untold nexus]

idk that's why i am asking

[random spear]

||1x nail damage, 1.5x with dashmaster||

[hoary anvil]

oh, as a note ||it doesn't benefit from most ingame damage boosts that impact nail, just the nails base damage||

[hoary anvil]

already answered and that could be an uncspoiler

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[random spear]

i know but that certain other charm is easy enough to get so like there isn't really any downside to specifying;
they're at ||traitor lord||, they should have ||shade cloak||, so they should be way past ||fungal|| already
it's a reasonable assumption imo

[placid jetty]

ye so does changing game files in anyway affect trpohies/achievements or anything?

[vague fern]

its fine tbh

[supple mountain]

no

[vague fern]

Depends what you mean

You can give yourself achievements by modifying your save file

[placid jetty]

just change some health values a bit

[supple mountain]

mods dont, even ones that do that

yeah

[vague fern]

Nah thats fine

[placid jetty]

thanks

[supple mountain]

only if you go to the achievement data ig

[desert stream]

Wait the word ||banish|| is a spoiler? Wow

[velvet ore]

Hi, just came here to confirm something. ||I left the room while Brumm was banishing the grim troupe and now he's not there anymore. Is it impossible to banish now?||

[desert stream]

||are they gone||?

[velvet ore]

||no they're still here, and Brumm is missing from both his locations||

[desert stream]

theres probably still a way, but idk

sorry

[velvet ore]

Eh it's fine, I don't mind the other charm

[golden flower]

that word doesnt have any uses outside of ||grimm||

[craggy pulsar]

Yea

[shut sparrow]

woah

[sage gulch]

im at the ||colloseum 2nd trial||, what do i use?

maybe this?

[hollow bramble]

thats good

[terse isle]

||that looks pretty good, you could also switch grubsong steady body and soul catcher for soul eater or swap shaman stone and soul catcher for quick nail and long nail.||

[sage gulch]

this for 3rd?

[elder mango]

This spoiler bot Is saying my messages contain spoilers

[terse isle]

That also looks good

to put in spoilers just add || to both ends of your text

[desert stream]

because they do

[terse isle]

yeah I agree

[glacial cliff]

wbt ||trial of the fool||

[terse isle]

||overcharmed is a fun way to go but if you aren't used to doing it I would not recommend also I just really do not like Joni's blessing||

[sage gulch]

like tis?

this*

[terse isle]

yeah

[glacial cliff]

uhh

what else do i use

[slender aurora]

hi unc

[glacial cliff]

.-.

[slender aurora]

sob my bad cough

[terse isle]

|| I would probably swap grubsong and Joni's for soul catcher||

[glacial cliff]

why not ||spell twister||?

[terse isle]

valid point

[glacial cliff]

which is better

[terse isle]

didn't think about that

[terse isle]

depends on if you are planning on doing a lot of casting or if you are going to be using your soul for mostly healing

[glacial cliff]

i dont get hit a lot in the early waves

[terse isle]

so I would use ||spell twister||

[glacial cliff]

i keep dyin around wave 9

ight

[terse isle]

|| you could also swap shaman stone for quick focus and swap joni's and grub for long nail for a more nail focused build||

[glacial cliff]

really

[glacial cliff]

true i focus more on nail than ||spells||

[hoary anvil]

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[hoary anvil]

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[steel pulsar]

||what Colosseum challenge yall talking about I could maybe help||

[terse isle]

||Trial of the Fool||

[elder mango]

||honestly nightmare king Grimm kinda easy when you eventually git gud||

[worldly pawn]

||i heard from a friend that you can talk to the dung defender after you defeat them, but is this true and if so, when/ where?||

[hollow bramble]

||u can talk to him after you beat him, and re enter the room||

[worldly pawn]

yea i did that but hes not showing up :<

[worldly pawn]

i think i scared him ;-;

[glacial cliff]

rest at ||bench||

[worldly pawn]

i did

[glacial cliff]

did u grab his ||charm||?

[worldly pawn]

yah

😭

[glacial cliff]

did u hit the switch yet?

[worldly pawn]

yeah

[steel pulsar]

||there is a breakable floor right after the arena you do need desolate dive or d dark to enter||

[glacial cliff]

shes askin abt bein able to talk to him

not the dream version

tbh i think quit and save to menu and re enter

[worldly pawn]

i just wanna talk to bro to tell em hes gotta git gud

[glacial cliff]

wow

[steel pulsar]

||Yeah you can talk to him you but I forgot to say something you need to have a dreamers killed||

[glacial cliff]

hatin on the best bug in-game 😞

[glacial cliff]

i havent killed the ||dreamers|| and i can talk to him

[worldly pawn]

i have killed all of them

[orchid flower]

Hold on everyone

I’ll explain

[glacial cliff]

😭 wth

[elder mango]

||his dream form too||

[worldly pawn]

what ._.

[orchid flower]

||Dung Defender can be conversed with after sitting on a bench and returning to the arena||

||Defeating the dreamers triggers the next stage of his storyline||

This is the answer to your questions

[glacial cliff]

she wants the former i believe

[glacial cliff]

^

[orchid flower]

Then read the first little blurb

[worldly pawn]

yea i did this but he never came:(

[orchid flower]

||Are the dreamers already dead||?

If so he won’t appear there

[worldly pawn]

ah ok

[glacial cliff]

riiight

hes sleepin

[worldly pawn]

aww 😔

[glacial cliff]

i forgot

[steel pulsar]

So I was kinda right

[glacial cliff]

ye so ||desolate dive||

just look for weak ground near the switch

[orchid flower]

You’ve triggered the progression to the next part of his story

[worldly pawn]

aw shucks

[orchid flower]

Gotta find him down below

[worldly pawn]

ok thanks

[plucky ridge]

How bad is fighting ||nusk|| on soul steel

[worldly pawn]

🫡

[plucky ridge]

||Wish me luck I have 6 masks and 1 nail upgrade||

[hoary anvil]

not very if you abuse safe spots

or well or perfectly safe spots but

[plucky ridge]

I will be I'm not dieing this far into the run

[glacial cliff]

i genuinely avoided ||deepnest|| for like 75% of my playthrough

[worldly pawn]

also r fighting ||nosk?||

[worldly pawn]

ha same

i hate that place

[glacial cliff]

bro those ||stalking devouts|| are a pain in the ass

[worldly pawn]

i hate the spiders

[glacial cliff]

doin 2 masks

[plucky ridge]

Yeah that's what I meant

[worldly pawn]

i hate ||nosk|| so hard

[glacial cliff]

the ||weavers|| arent bad

[glacial cliff]

i found him pretty late game

[ebon fulcrum]

is this like normal ||https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/m5rmumAlVpw_5p3kW?invite=cr-MSx2WUssMzYxNzQ0ODM0&v=96||

[worldly pawn]

yea same still hate em tho

[glacial cliff]

max health, ||nail and spell|| upgrades

[plucky ridge]

Better then the ||collector|| he just pisses me off

[glacial cliff]

||abyssal shriek all the way||

same for ||tmg||

[worldly pawn]

if i can skip him i will

[glacial cliff]

annoyin fight

[plucky ridge]

Also just won

[gleaming carbon]

No

[plucky ridge]

A lot easier the. I thought lil

[ebon fulcrum]

what even happened to it

[glacial cliff]

all his damage comes from the eneimes he spawns

[plucky ridge]

Yeah

And he's more annoying the ||zote||

[gleaming carbon]

No clue

[glacial cliff]

||grey prince zote|| is a pain in the ass

i wished i never saved him

[plucky ridge]

YES

[gleaming carbon]

Agreed

[plucky ridge]

Ty someone agrees with me with not liking him

[glacial cliff]

prideful sob

[ebon fulcrum]

ima go ask speedrunning

[glacial cliff]

arrogant pos

[terse isle]

agreed

[plucky ridge]

Yes

[glacial cliff]

cant even tank him

[gleaming carbon]

Sure

[terse isle]

nope

[plucky ridge]

I let him die in my first soul steel run

[gleaming carbon]

Good

[glacial cliff]

i could tank || tmg, hornet, sentineel, failed champion||

but not this f*cker

[plucky ridge]

Real

[glacial cliff]

||i wanna finish trial of the fool before i try him and nkg||

[gleaming carbon]

He out tanks you quite easily

[glacial cliff]

then kamikaze mode

[gleaming carbon]

Good idea

[steel pulsar]

||What’s the best way to get awoken dream nail I mean best boss order to get it||

[glacial cliff]

||darkness dive||||spell twister, shaman stone and soul eater||

[plucky ridge]

||I hate being in deep nest||

[glacial cliff]

||dream warriors||

[steel pulsar]

||That only gives me 1100 dream essence||

[glacial cliff]

did u do ||whispering roots||?

[gleaming carbon]

||You have to dream nail some bosses that you defended before then you have to kill them again||

[steel pulsar]

||Ik every dream boss I just need the best order||

[jaunty night]

Uh... Do all of them?

[steel pulsar]

||Well there is a lot I don’t need to defeat for awoken dream nail so I kinda just want to do easy ones first and harder ones last if I want the achievement||

[worldly pawn]

i need 500 ||dream essence|| or what ever its called but i only have 497 how could i like get 3 more? (without doing bosses i hate them somuch)

[jaunty night]

||whispering roots||

[worldly pawn]

ok thanks :0

[hoary anvil]

or just ||farm random enemies for the random drops||

[worldly pawn]

ok bet >:3

[hoary anvil]

if you want an easily missable one, there's one in ||the tall room with the gruzzers early in crossroads on the left edge|| ... might technically be inaccessible for now if you ||got dream nail OMEGA early via grinding a ton of money|| but probably not

[worldly pawn]

could u send map please of where it is?

[hoary anvil]

wiki screenshot cropped for potential spoiler reasons

[worldly pawn]

ah ok thank you

[hoary anvil]

there's also one in ||ancestral mound|| nearby but that might involve a clever skip if you're not late enough in the game

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[hoary anvil]

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not tagging is a violation of channel rules btw

[plucky ridge]

It only is if the server flags it as a spoiler

[hoary anvil]

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[vapid veldt]

is there a way to recover local steam files

I just lost 100 hours of progress because of steams stupid sync up system

[glacial cliff]

how do i get there

[hoary anvil]

||breakable ceiling||, what do you have unlocked

[glacial cliff]

nearly everythin

[hoary anvil]

ah then yeah, just kind of ||breakable ceiling on the right side of the room||

[glacial cliff]

oooh

right side

ty

[bold wind]

anybody got any methods for defeating ||pure vessel||? I fly through ||pantheon 4|| but that fucker resets all my progress and it's making me crash out in real time

[supple mountain]

stay close

[bold wind]

if i keep dying, i might just have to uninstall the game forever

[supple mountain]

hug him, practically

[bold wind]

uhh

is that wise? he does a shitload of damage

[supple mountain]

||shade dash|| through him if he starts any attack

then go back

[bold wind]

even ||unbreakable heart|| can barely help

fair

should I put on ||sharp shadow||?

[supple mountain]

use ||sharp shadow|| instead

hehe

lol

[bold wind]

ah okay

i put on ||longnail|| but distance isn't necessarily the problem

[supple mountain]

||longnail|| is a placebo dude

propaganda

lie

[bold wind]

how?

[supple mountain]

use anything else

[bold wind]

alright bro

[supple mountain]

it barely does anything

[bold wind]

yea

plus the damage he does is insane and ends the fight in literal seconds

[supple mountain]

if you think 2 is "insane" silksong will be "psychopathic"

[bold wind]

alright bro 🥀

i can't wait to play 😭

i'll try your method

[supple mountain]

i pray for u

[bold wind]

thank you broski

i appreciate all blessings

[prisma jolt]

I can't Even Say ||this is grub 38 specificslly btw|| because it gets flagged by spoiler

[bold wind]

oh well

[supple mountain]

just say #38

no

[prisma jolt]

What the hell

[supple mountain]

delete that

[bold wind]

thanks for the spoiler bro 😐

[prisma jolt]

||Kngiht never dies btw||

[bold wind]

the spoiler system exists for a reason

[supple mountain]

you should know by now if youre at ||p4||

[prisma jolt]

||oh boy i hope this statement doesnt age poorly||

[bold wind]

fingers crossed

[prisma jolt]

||those who know||

[slender aurora]

are they playing for the first time-

[bold wind]

anyways i'm gonna try ||sharpshadow|| for ||p4||

[supple mountain]

gl

[bold wind]

it's my first time if that's what you're asking

thanks bro

[slender aurora]

Aaa okie good luck then

[bold wind]

i have to time it perfectly, otherwise, i'm fucked

[supple mountain]

what?

[prisma jolt]

||longnail<mark if pride||

[bold wind]

||dashing|| through enemies is a dangerous game

[glacial cliff]

bruh

[bold wind]

agreed but it takes more ||notch|| space

[glacial cliff]

i fuckin hate ||gpz||

[supple mountain]

great, you're sane

[bold wind]

anyways brb be back with my results

[prisma jolt]

MY BROTHER IN CHRIST

[supple mountain]

be right back be back!

[prisma jolt]

@plain kettle fix the spoiler bot im getting pinged for being replied and the reply having spoiler

[supple mountain]

risky game

[prisma jolt]

How am i supposed to know when im pinged by someone and by a bot

||this is a spoiler trust||

[slender aurora]

Oh boy im so thirsty i rlly want a barista to make me a drink cough cough

also anytips for ||grimm||?

[supple mountain]

yeah your pfp matches that description

anyway uh

send charms/abilities

[slender aurora]

ty-

[prisma jolt]

The fight against ||grimm is like a dance||

[slender aurora]

er cant jst tell me wat to use

[slender aurora]

true

[prisma jolt]

Try using ||nail based charms since Grimm is more of a hit and run boss||

[slender aurora]

Hmm alr thank u

[plain kettle]

what are you getting flagged on

[prisma jolt]

Flagged on ||notches|| Even tho i didnt Say it

[supple mountain]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[slender aurora]

uh oka nvm

[plain kettle]

cna you repeat the phrase that it flags just in spoilers so it doesn't flag it

[prisma jolt]

||notch||

[supple mountain]

nah youre good its just i dont want to say "use this ability a lot" or "use this charm a lot" when you dont have it

[prisma jolt]

I have ||108 percent|| and im lazy to finish it

[supple mountain]

you got this

[prisma jolt]

Try replying with a spoiler

Dw i know everything about the game

[plain kettle]

those are both flagged as spoilers

[prisma jolt]

Let me explain

[slender aurora]

Ooh my bad okay ty

[supple mountain]

nah

youre good 👍

[plain kettle]

i assume you are saying something completely irrelevant and the bot says "nah you said ||notches|| or ||notch||"

[prisma jolt]

Someone replied to me with a covered spoiler and they had a covered spoiler, that told me to set it as spoiler

Basically

[plain kettle]

so if i say ||notches|| and you reply to it, itll say you said that?

[prisma jolt]

Flagged me for something someone else said because of reply

[prisma jolt]

Hello this is a test ||radiance is a moth||

I don't know if it was a one time Bug but it annoyed me because it ping me

No

[plain kettle]

and basically it said the word you should spoiler was not what you said but the person you replied to

[prisma jolt]

Hold on i explained wrong

Since i replied with a spoiler ||radiance is a moth|| it flagged who the person (me) replied to (You)

Instead of the person who said it

Covered or not

[plain kettle]

i assume you replied to this person so it flagged you as not spoiling ||grub|| ?

im still a bit confused so if you wanna trigger it again on purpose if you can

[prisma jolt]

No, they replied to me with a spoiler, and it flagged me instead of them

[plain kettle]

ive seen it act up on one offs and it might be a regex thing

[prisma jolt]

Insert spoiler here: ||puré vessel||

Try reply with spoiler

[plain kettle]

and then i reply with a non-spoiler, and then the bot pings you

[prisma jolt]

IT WORKED

YOU REPLIED WITH SPOILER AND FLAGGED ME

[plain kettle]

it pings you in that?

[prisma jolt]

You said ||grub|| and it said to mark it

Yes

[hoary anvil]

then there's n*nsenf being listed twice in addition to being a meme

[prisma jolt]

Did You do the same thing again?

Because it flagged My message

[plain kettle]

yes, so it deletes it and then messages that i inserted a spoiler

[prisma jolt]

Do i try it with you

Did it mark You?

[plain kettle]

i thik that's cause you pinged me for 1/2 a second

the bot didnt ping

[prisma jolt]

Look

It says You to cover it when i sent it

[plain kettle]

the message was then right below me so it just looks like it's telling me to do it

[glacial cliff]

nee

[prisma jolt]

Apparently

Js being mentioned with the slightest triggers it

Say anything

Anything You want

Cheese

Pepperoni

Salami

[plain kettle]

it was probably cause you got pinged and then the bot deleted it, so it appeared as a ghost ping

[slender aurora]

yeeee-

[prisma jolt]

||grub||

Did it do anything?

[plain kettle]

that just pings me like a regular message

[hoary anvil]

🍿

[prisma jolt]

Yesh

The problem is taht it pings You instead of whoever said it

[plain kettle]

the bot would have a yellow outline for a ping

[hoary anvil]

this would be why it pinged them in that case

[prisma jolt]

Let me explain: it sends the bot message to whoever was the person replied to instead of the person who said it if ||marked||

[prisma jolt]

And the bot

Look dude

Have You completed the Game pokegeek

[hoary anvil]

talking about this message or the regular one?

[prisma jolt]

||grub||

Did it do anything

[hoary anvil]

i have all achievements on both

[hoary anvil]

nothing abnormal

[prisma jolt]

Did it trigger the bot

[hoary anvil]

i saw nothing from the bot

[prisma jolt]

Weird

It happened for me

[hoary anvil]

if you're wondering about the generic bot messages, everyone can see those

[prisma jolt]

Guh

OOOOH

[hoary anvil]

example:

[prisma jolt]

Still weird that i saw someone get flagged Even tho they covered it

||what the hell is nonsenf||

Well uh

Know that i know how to spoiler im gonna annoy My frends

||||

[hoary anvil]

oh, sometimes the bot can be finicky with spoilers overlapping with lists and such ... most of them were ironed out, but maybe some remain

[prisma jolt]

Ok

Bye

[hoary anvil]

the name of someone who you may see around, was included in the bot as a meme

by someone i mean a discord user

[prisma jolt]

Loool

This is what moderation is

[prisma jolt]

We call ||nonsenf|| voldemort

[plain kettle]

||nonsenf|| is in the list so that word is actually flagged appropriately, however idk why, so ill ask the modding staff

[hoary anvil]

the funny thing is it actually triggers twice

[plain kettle]

its in there twice

[hoary anvil]

huh

[plain kettle]

hurrr

||https://github.com/Thommie0208/hkmain_spoilers/blob/main/hk-help.txt|| there' sthe full list

lines 755 and 758 have ||nonsenf||

[hoary anvil]

as for why it's in there, iirc from others because it was funny

[prisma jolt]

||nonsenf||

[glacial cliff]

what is ||tl||

[plain kettle]

||traitor lord||

[heady crystal]

how do i do ||sisters of battle radiant||

[prisma jolt]

Git gud, ||You gotta time your dashes right, do not use it on the up to down move, instead use it on lunge, You can also jump and pogo for extra damage, do not try attacking on the side when it's phase 2||

[shrewd knoll]

I'm so close to beating hollow knight

[bleak lintel]

||Can you Dream Nail the Traitors' Child for +1 Essence?||

[royal hull]

Anything you struggle with?

[royal hull]

||Don't think so, they seem to be gone when you flower the grave||

[shrewd knoll]

It's just that i can't dodge for shit

[royal hull]

||you could always do brute force with the right charms and health and facetank||

[shrewd knoll]

What charms

[royal hull]

Show your charms

[shrewd knoll]

I'll send you them

[royal hull]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985794659894829117/1452442852545138910/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg?ex=6949d451&is=694882d1&hm=47a8c358d152398e5ae2d1065365b60d0ecc8f737cb5191a481557171d65ba6a&=&format=webp

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[shrewd knoll]

I sent you a chat of them

[primal harbor]

Hi, sorry I had to go.
But yes, I was talking about her

[distant plank]

||does anyone have any tips for radiance? i cannot kill this stupid fuck for the life of me||

[prisma jolt]

||Dodge||

[distant plank]

you're really fucking helpful dude

[prisma jolt]

Yes

[prisma jolt]

||up spell first phase, second phase fast nail up on the lowest plat||

[crude cedar]

|| I used nuke build for radiance, all spell charms ||

[distant plank]

||its taking like 5 minutes to even get radiance to activate the spike phase||

||spells are doing almost nothing to it||

[crude cedar]

|| THE RADIANCE

PHASES:

-PHASE 1: THE ARENA

(1701-1351 HP)

-PHASE 2: SPIKES

(1351-951 HP)

-PHASE 3: SWORD RAIN

(951-701 HP)

-PHASE 4: THE SKY

(701-1 HP) ||

[slow hill]

👍

[crude cedar]

|| Decide your attacks based on the phase ||

[crude cedar]

[distant plank]

||i dont even know how im supposed to deal any damage with 5000 projectiles flying at me at once||

[wintry oriole]

Tips for ||soul tyrant||

?

I have all masks and soul vessels

And all charms

[slow hill]

so you dont have|| shade cloak||?

[royal hull]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[slow hill]

uh

[royal hull]

||jump when he dives, if he teleports dash to his direction||

[slow hill]

oh

[wintry oriole]

Ty

[prisma jolt]

Hollow knight

A

[slow hill]

[brave drum]

Please spoiler mark all attachments!

Please spoiler mark all attachments!

[exotic relic]

||Can somebody tell me how to get this key?||

[worldly pawn]

you can buy one up in ||dirtmouth||

[prisma jolt]

As someone once said ||metroidvanias are about getting Lost, get Lost then||

Key

Card

Cake

Cake???

[worldly pawn]

cake?

[prisma jolt]

Cake

[worldly pawn]

cake

[exotic relic]

Thank youu

[exotic relic]

Cake

[worldly pawn]

cake

[royal hull]

||from Dirtmouth Sly or city of tears itself for free||

[safe scarab]

Is there a mod to skip bosses introduction?

[worldly pawn]

#1057825333841240104

[exotic relic]

||The city of tears simple key didn't work I'll try buying from Dartmouth Sly||

[orchid flower]

They’re all identical

[worldly pawn]

yea

[orchid flower]

I’m not sure what you mean by it not working

[exotic relic]

||It's not opening||

[orchid flower]

Can you take a screenshot of the key in your inventory and then one of what the text box says when you interact with it?

[worldly pawn]

it should ask you if you want to use it?

[exotic relic]

||It didn't ask that's why it didn't open T-T||

[exotic relic]

||It didn't say anything||

[worldly pawn]

ok thats odd

[orchid flower]

I’m asking if u can show me those screenshots

[worldly pawn]

so you have a ||simple key|| and it doesnt work?

[exotic relic]

||I can't show u rn I'm not in pc rn sorry||

[orchid flower]

Just usually stuff like this happens because you think you have something that you don’t

[exotic relic]

I've searched it on yt it says it has 5simple keys

[orchid flower]

As dumb as it sounds

There’s only 4

An they’re all identical

[worldly pawn]

yeah

[proud musk]

||has anyone here beaten the 4th pantheon with all bindings??||

[orchid flower]

Mhm!

[slow hill]

does it look like this?

ops

whong person

[orchid flower]

Do u need help with smth?

[unborn stone]

Individually yes

[orchid flower]

I think they meant all at once

That’s what that phrasing usually means

[exotic relic]

||Yeah||

[jolly oriole]

how do ya get in here?

[proud musk]

||i just need to know how someone does it with all bindings attached at once. it very hard, :(||

[orchid flower]

Just gotta get in from the bottom first

[orchid flower]

I actually found it easier than the third with all at once

I can’t quite give general tips besides playing well though. I can tell you how to fight specific bosses tho

[proud musk]

||but, but pure vessel||

[orchid flower]

Just gotta beat them hitless

[proud musk]

||yes please, how do u beat pure vessel properly||

[orchid flower]

Really all there is to it unfortunately

Practice them on ||radiant with no charms||

That’ll be approximately the same difficulty, as long as you limit ||spell|| usage

[slow hill]

Ya its probably just a bug

Then

[proud musk]

||I actually haven't done that yet, good idea||

[unborn stone]

||debug mod can also be used to reduce nail damage||

[slow hill]

You have to get in through the other side I think

[jolly oriole]

whats the other side?

[orchid flower]

Well if you’re using mods there just is a mod that lets you have the ||binding|| effects

[orchid flower]

In another area

You’ll get there eventually

[jolly oriole]

btw got lost while following a tutorial, died and lost all my geo, so i lowkey roamed, how far ahead did i skip?

[slow hill]

💀

Kinda far ngl

[orchid flower]

Wdym skip?

[slow hill]

Is it the one in ||forgotten crossroads||

[orchid flower]

I’m not sure how I’d answer that

[worldly pawn]

dont think u skiped

i got to ||broken vessel with only dash and claw||

[jolly oriole]

i didnt go through the areas before|| queens station|| lmfao, no maps or anything

[orchid flower]

Thats not very far

[slow hill]

Then if im not mistaken you have to get in through ||fungle waists||

[orchid flower]

That’s still around the beginning of the game girl😅

[slow hill]

Thats wild

[worldly pawn]

yeah ik

[proud musk]

||was broken vessel hard to deal with after that?||

[worldly pawn]

nah

[orchid flower]

That’s not correct

Well it is in a very long roundabout way

[worldly pawn]

i just told myseld to git gud

[orchid flower]

But it’s not directly correct

[jolly oriole]

oh i also got the walljump item on accident

[proud musk]

if only that works all the time 🙁

[orchid flower]

Most things should happen on accident

You’re not supposed to know where stuff is

[worldly pawn]

🥀 yeah

[jolly oriole]

dont even remember the name of the area its in

[proud musk]

||ihatepurevesselihatepurevesselihatepurevessel||

[orchid flower]

Do u want help?

[slow hill]

Ah

[worldly pawn]

i need 500 ||dream stuff thingys|| and i have 497

[proud musk]

||pretty much, when i can im just gonna practice with no charms and on radiant mode||

[orchid flower]

Are there particular attacks you have trouble grasping?

[proud musk]

||¯_(ツ)_/¯ well damn, gotta them last 3 ||

[proud musk]

||mainly his swingy swings, the one he likes to do alot||

[jolly oriole]

how do you get past this thing?

[orchid flower]

||When they slash 3 times quickly, you need to jump and bounce on them to get over them. It takes time to get the timing of this correct||

[orchid flower]

Not for a VERY long time

[proud musk]

||you're gonna have to come back to that a lot later||

[worldly pawn]

ho ho ho dont be thinking about that bud

[proud musk]

||gotcha, will take that into consideration||

[jolly oriole]

||isnt the map dude past it tho?||

[proud musk]

||yep :(||

[orchid flower]

You can’t reach him yet

[jolly oriole]

so dont even do this part of the map?

[orchid flower]

You can look around for a bit but as you’ll realize you can’t do this area properly until later anyway

There’s like 3 or 4 rooms you can access haha

[worldly pawn]

so like how do i get to the ||hive?||

[west quarry]

being 100 percent sure here ||if i loose to lost kin on steel soul i won't loose my run cuz it's in the dream realm right?||

[orchid flower]

||Its in the lower part of kingdom’s edge behind a breakable wall||

[orchid flower]

You will not be defeated

[jolly oriole]

im lowkey stuck then cuz idk what to do 😭

[orchid flower]

Have you gotten any sort of movement upgrade yet?

[worldly pawn]

there?

[orchid flower]

No, lower

[proud musk]

||nah u have to go a lot lower||

[orchid flower]

Much lower

[worldly pawn]

could you send map please 🙏

[orchid flower]

Go as far down as you can physically go on this map

Then go right

[jolly oriole]

||dashes, but accidentally got walljump item in an area i dont know the name of or where it is through meaningless wandering||

[orchid flower]

Look at parts of your map with illustrations

And go there

[worldly pawn]

so like there?????

[orchid flower]

Yes

[jolly oriole]

do i ignore ||greenpath ||for now?

[orchid flower]

Then continue going right and hitting walls

[orchid flower]

Yes

[worldly pawn]

yep found it thanks:)

[proud musk]

||ok now a bit higher, very close to where the knight symbol is on that pic [if im not mistaken]||

[jolly oriole]

do i go to ||forgotten crossroads?||

[tawny horizon]

Help meee I'm so stuckk I don't even care if you tell me plain and simple I'm stuck in ||crystal peak|| and can't even find an exit

[proud musk]

||where did u come from?||

[orchid flower]

No

[jolly oriole]

where then 😭

[orchid flower]

It’s really funny that you conveniently forgot the name of the one place you can do more stuff in

Not sure how that worked out

[jolly oriole]

where then schlawgington

😭

[bright hamlet]

When you get a certain item, game will guide u to an exit

[tawny horizon]

Uhhh I actually don't know but I feel like either ||city of tears or forgotten crossroads||

[autumn cargo]

Get ||crystal heart||

[bright hamlet]

Uncspoiler

[tawny horizon]

But I keep going in a loop with no way out 😭

[bright hamlet]

All I can say is
Go up

[tawny horizon]

Huh? What's that

[jolly oriole]

no dude genuinely whats the place thats what im asking

[tawny horizon]

[jolly oriole]

even if i knew the name i wouldnt know where to go

[bright hamlet]

It's an item, just find it for now

[autumn cargo]

Just explore the whole entire place

[tawny horizon]

I DID ALREADY

[bright hamlet]

It's clear that you didnt

Send ur map

[orchid flower]

||fungal wastes||

[autumn cargo]

There should be a place where you can parkour and get the item

[tawny horizon]

Oop

Ok ty

[jolly oriole]

thank ya

[bright hamlet]

Then find him, that is like the first priority in an arwa

[proud musk]

||i dont think u came from either and idk how to explain more without possibly spoiling something but i also doubt u softlocked urself or something||

[jolly oriole]

one more thing, what do i do with the empty slot thats here? its in ||forgotten path||

[orchid flower]

Just go left

[autumn cargo]

Did you use ||desolate dive|| to get there?

[tawny horizon]

I mean ig it's possible

[orchid flower]

If you think you can’t go left, screenshot it

[orchid flower]

Stop saying that stuff

[tawny horizon]

I think so

[orchid flower]

It’s unnecessary spoilers

You don’t know how they got in

[orchid flower]

Oh then you can’t leave until you finish the area

[tawny horizon]

[orchid flower]

Just have fun

[tawny horizon]

I hate this place tho 😭

[scenic valley]

you'll get something to use there later :) dw about it now

[autumn cargo]

Do you have a map for the area?

[proud musk]

||but the soundtrack tho......such a banger||

[orchid flower]

Clearly not

[bright hamlet]

You will know. Late game things

[tawny horizon]

Besides the ||soundtrack|| prob uncspoiler

Bruh I can't even find the ||parkour place|| now 😒

[livid lagoon]

wut should i do after i get ||dash||

[tawny horizon]

Ooohhh I found it

[autumn cargo]

Good

[autumn cargo]

Explore

[orchid flower]

Just keep on movin

[worldly pawn]

is there a bench closer cas i dont really wanna go back all that way

[livid lagoon]

to where

[scenic valley]

||backtrack and get upgrades, or explore new areas. dw about it too much, whatever you decide you'll progress||

[orchid flower]

No

[worldly pawn]

😭

[livid lagoon]

ok

[tawny horizon]

Omg I completed the ||parkour||

[proud musk]

let's gooooo

[tawny horizon]

When do I get ||heart thingy||

[scenic valley]

you get it when you ||explore crystal peaks||

[tawny horizon]

Ooohhh I think I found it also I found ||cornifer||

[jolly oriole]

wheres the map dude in ||fungal wastes||?

[tawny horizon]

Don't have enough geo tho 😅

[scenic valley]

where did you enter from?

[jolly oriole]

||forgotten||

[scenic valley]

||down and left from forgotten entrance :)||

it's a wee way but you'll find him

[jolly oriole]

thank ya

[autumn cargo]

When you complete the ||parkour course||

[jolly oriole]

left of here?

[proud musk]

||i think so||

[scenic valley]

yep, keep going that way and youll get there eventually

and find the paper trail

[royal hull]

||are you SURE you got a key from city of tears?||

[jolly oriole]

er keep going left?

[scenic valley]

just keep going and exploring

[storm ingot]

|| i have 7370 geo do i drop all my geo in the fountain of ancient basin or nah , cuz I heard it gives a vessel frag ||

[royal hull]

||yep! It won't take more than 3000 btw||

[scenic valley]

||it does, i think it only costs 3000 though. up to you if you want to||

[storm ingot]

Ok got it

[jolly oriole]

are we deadass

[scenic valley]

LMAO well at least you found him

[royal hull]

||what would classify as a filler charm and something like Steady body and nailmasters' glory?||

[storm ingot]

|| can you use the dream gate to just go to the other side to deliver the delicate flower??? ||

[scenic valley]

||filler charm||?

[scenic valley]

||no, sadly not||

||have to walk||

[jolly oriole]

holy shit thats how much i wandered

[scenic valley]

wow you really explored everywhere but where the map was, huh

[jolly oriole]

i have the ||walljump item||

[scenic valley]

nice :)

[royal hull]

||nope, it breaks||

[royal hull]

||charm that's good to have but not nesscary to any major thing||

||like grubsong||

[coarse nest]

||spore shroom||

[scenic valley]

||thorns is another one||

[topaz sparrow]

There is a way to do it that's like the ||dreamgate|| but it requires some setup

But it takes the challenge away

[royal hull]

||doesn't it actually hurt your survival?||

[scenic valley]

||heavy blow, shape on unn, deamshield are others i can think of||

[royal hull]

||Ship said good||

[hoary anvil]

hang on what context is ||shape of unn|| being degraded? hitless context?

[scenic valley]

||nah, just damages enemies when you get hurt. unless youre intentionally ramming yourself it doesn't hurt survival||

[vague fern]

How is || dshield|| inbibiting

[royal hull]

||it uses some iframes for the attack itself||

[scenic valley]

inhibiting? just filler

[scenic valley]

does it? idk much about it cause i don't use it

[hoary anvil]

ah the context was being a filler ... wild to put anything that's over ||1 notch|| as a "filler" imo

[coarse nest]

Filler is hard to define

[royal hull]

||is it basically just dream nail thing and grubsong||

[royal hull]

||let's go with the definition of 1 notch charm that is good to have but not nesscary||

[vague fern]

Thought you were listing inhibiting ones mb

[hoary anvil]

imo ||shape of unn|| is goated, outside of the hitless context ofc

[scenic valley]

well i kind of just mean it in terms of "charms that can be good, but don't fit into most builds"

[vague fern]

That applies to like 38 charms 😭

metagame is so specific

[hoary anvil]

my generic build is ||hybrid nail/heal of strength/qs + quick focus/shape of unn||

[proud musk]

||oooo shape of unn nice||

[royal hull]

||like grubsong would count but not nailmasters because sometimes it's nesscary||

[scenic valley]

I have never seriously used ||shape of unn or quick focus||

[vague fern]

Latter is super strong

Most underrated charm no debate

[scenic valley]

idk, I just can't get over the ||3 notch cost||

[hoary anvil]

they make it significantly easier to heal, which means in an endurance setting you don't have to worry nearly as much about being perfect - allows you to fix your mistakes as long as you are aggressive enough

[scenic valley]

to each their own, ig

[royal hull]

Does Ship's question suck or smth or too vague to answer

[vague fern]

I mean yeah anything besides || strength qslash shaman || is iffy because those 3 are busted

Its more for less experienced / optimal players

[scenic valley]

yea exactly i agree

[royal hull]

||not even mark of pride?||

[hoary anvil]

ah yes, the dps check playstyle

[proud musk]

||i mean personally i think strength/qslah/mark of pride is the more busted build||

[scenic valley]

||mark of pride is goated, but if you want spells as well going just for longnail works wonders||

[golden flower]

good for low hit/hitless meh for anything else

[topaz sparrow]

||Sbody is the one notch hero||

[vague fern]

Only for hitless

[hoary anvil]

"if i kill the target before taking too much damage then i win" ... i prefer the style of "i can take as long as i need to and still win", with the dps charms just filling the remaining slots as i didn't need another tech charm

[royal hull]

||how about for the casual player?||

[vague fern]

Its good dont get me wrong, but the other 3 is busted (more dmg is unreplicable, range isnt)

[vague fern]

Its great

solid a tier charm

[proud musk]

trueeee

[hoary anvil]

iirc i was using ||mark of pride|| when i was like in the ||p1-3|| area of my casual playthrough, eventually realized i didn't need it for much and swapped over to ||quick slash iirc||

[proud musk]

more attack speed = more dmg

[prisma scroll]

Hey uh this was my first time trying ||steel soul mode|| and also my second file ever :/… how did i do?

[hoary anvil]

-# well actually at that point i had started other playthroughs so maybe not casual anymore but

[topaz sparrow]

Everyone's different. And for first time this is great

[hoary anvil]

and also more soul

[scenic valley]

||awesome, speed completion with steel soul is great :)||

[prisma scroll]

Eyy nice :D
also first time getting those acheivements
Basically in my first file i just very slowly got 112%, then did ||godhome|| on that file a lot, so i tried ||steel soul mode||

[royal hull]

||Ship's average build is mark of pride, strength, quick slash, grubsong and nailglory, how's that?||

[prisma scroll]

Yee, only 40 mins off and thats mostly cuz i kept forgetting where to go
(||i got all the movement upgrades and the shade dash before i got dream nail or tram pass||)

[hoary anvil]

tragic you didn't get the timesave with the 5h speedrun achievement but still quite good ((i didn't get that one on my first speedrun attempt because i kept dying to ||watchers and maybe uumuu a little||))

[proud musk]

yoo that is an amazing job, well done!

[prisma scroll]

eyy tyy

[vague fern]

id highly recommend || steady body||, but if you've tried it and dont like it, then thats great

[topaz sparrow]

Dude, don't sweat it. You nearly did both speedrun achievements on your first ||steel soul try||. That's pretty awesome

[scenic valley]

good build, would personally ||sub grubsong and nmg and mark for longnail all for shaman just cause spells are busted||

[prisma scroll]

Nice :D
ty
im going for 100% speedrun and ||steel soul 100%|| on that file rn

[hoary anvil]

yeah, imo ||steel soul|| is easier than ||completing godhome achievements|| by a landslide, just have to go and grab the optional upgrades along the way to ensure you don't die

[topaz sparrow]

Good luck!

[hoary anvil]

(that said they do compliment each other because ||godhome gives you a lot of boss practice to use towards not dying in steel soul||)

[prisma scroll]

In my non-||steel soul|| file iv neaaarly radianted ||pure vessel||, if that gets u an idea of my skill level
Oh and got to ||absolute radiance|| on my second attempt of ||pantheon 5||
Havent beaten her at all yet, not even on ||attuned||

[prisma scroll]

Ty!

[royal hull]

Alrighty tty
Would the build immediately get worse if ||spores was added||

[prisma scroll]

Iv only nearly died like twice, and i save and quitted immediatly
||i got lost and went to nosk by accident with 1 nail upgrade and 6 masks||

[vague fern]

Yes

[hoary anvil]

yeah, that would make ||steel soul|| pretty easy then, even the ||100% one due to the other dlc options allowing you to skip colo 3||

[royal hull]

||Spores will be meta one day ||

[vague fern]

not horrendously worse, but basically the equivalent of removing a 10 || notch || build

[prisma scroll]

Imma do ||most of grimm quest so i dont have to :)||
ill still prob do some of the other stuff tho

[scenic valley]

||spores, thorns and b-shell damage|| only run would be funny

[hoary anvil]

-# one of my ||steel soul 112|| runs died at ||111 to colo 3 after i beat it in a practice file ||
-# then my one that i actually got it almost died to ||regular radiance because i kept walking into the lasers expecting them to vanish faster, ended on 1 mask||
-# yes i ban quit outs

[topaz sparrow]

Might as well add ||dcrest and stalwart shell too||

[scenic valley]

the ultimate "don't touch me" build

[royal hull]

||Simon is trying a spore build and don't know for the last 2 slots, currently spores, grubsong, and both focuses||

[vague fern]

Probably || catcher /heart /stalwart || depending on the strat

[coarse nest]

||soul catcher is always nice to have
||

[royal hull]

||it's "get hit, heal and spores, repeat"||

||was considering dream wielder ngl||

[topaz sparrow]

||heart or dreamwielder and some other charm (like sbody. You should try it out)||

[vague fern]

probably || heart / stalwart (if you're also attacking) / dwielder + smt ||

[royal hull]

||alrighty ty||

[vague fern]

Iirc || dcrest buffs spores || but that might be misinformation

[topaz sparrow]

It doesn't

[royal hull]

||never liked sbody||

[topaz sparrow]

Ok then

[royal hull]

Thank you chat

[scenic valley]

no, it does. it ||increases the damage||

[topaz sparrow]

||dcrest has a different cloud when you heal. Deep focus buffs the spores' radius||

[royal hull]

||it's more so two different sources of heal bursts than a direct buff||

[vague fern]

ah makes sense, thanks

[scenic valley]

it's one cloud that deals ||~40 damage||

[royal hull]

||unfortunately it's ugly as hell||

[topaz sparrow]

40?!

That's insane

No way

[scenic valley]

yea, ||without d-crest spore does damage every 0.15 seconds, but with d-crest does 2 damage every 0.2 seconds so its about a 14 damage increase in total (base spore does abt 26 damage)||

[topaz sparrow]

After some wiki and yt, I'd like to fix some mistakes. ||Dcrest overrides the spores with its own clouds and increases the spores dmg to 40 (from 27 base) over the ~4.1s duration||

[vague fern]

40 is, wow

thanks for letting me know

[storm ingot]

|| is pantheon required for completion , cuz I'm 106% and basically did EVERYTHING except the godhome thing and colosseum of fools 3 and defeating nkg and I haven't gotten unbreakable greed and unbreakable hearts ||

[golden flower]

1-4
||unbreakables|| are not %

[topaz sparrow]

||completion percentage is counted up until the 4th pantheon||

[storm ingot]

|| is beating radiance also counting towards % cuz I haven't done that either ||

[topaz sparrow]

No

[storm ingot]

|| how much ||

[topaz sparrow]

4

[storm ingot]

|| then I'm missing 1% if colo is 1% pantheon is 4% there's one more % i need ||

[topaz sparrow]

||defeating NKG or banishment is a percent||

[vague fern]

|| seer ascension||?

[storm ingot]

|| done ||

[storm ingot]

|| oh ok got it then I'm left with no choice but to beat him ||

[topaz sparrow]

You don't need to beat him

[storm ingot]

|| i already collected the three flames without knowing you could get brumm to end the troupe i tried doing it but now I'm literally stuck to beating him ||

[topaz sparrow]

Oh well

Gl

[storm ingot]

Thanks💔💔

[topaz sparrow]

Easiest boss in the game

[storm ingot]

|| hell no bro I died trying to beat him 5 times then i ragequit ||

[topaz sparrow]

Dw ||he's quite telegraphed. You'll just need to learn his moveset||

You'll just suddenly turn on autopilot when you do it

[storm ingot]

|| is there a cheese to him like there was to king grimm ||

[storm ingot]

sure

[topaz sparrow]

Not really

[storm ingot]

💔

[sterile agate]

Wait wait ||what cheese do you mean||?? I didnt know that was a thing

[storm ingot]

|| can I just spam hits until he's dead like I did with other bosses or it requires much more than that||

[primal ibex]

you'll need to learn to dodge

[storm ingot]

|| basically just spamming the abyss shriek while having stalwart shell and grubsong and spell twister and shaman stone and any other charm you can throw in when he puffs up like a pufferfish just spam abyss shriek ||

[storm ingot]

|| before the fight you need to fill up soul ||

[storm ingot]

ouch

[topaz sparrow]

||Don't get greedy with your hits that's all. He never strays form his attack patterns||

[storm ingot]

|| can I get all the lifeblood charms and hearts i possibly can and just keep hitting him ||

[primal ibex]

we're talking abt ||nkg|| right

[sterile agate]

I doubt it